assassination

[dapper halo]

whispyr-chan is so young yet so smart ;3

im 41 lol

[royal lantern]

gotta have to ask the mog lords about that

your sims dont work for style

[cunning needle]

compounding interest on charges

[latent tendon]

If I macro tea and shiv, is there any scenario where I have to press tea alone? Or can I always do it with the macro?

[balmy condor]

you don't even really need the macro, you could just let it auto-proc

but no, the macro is good enough

[royal lantern]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[merry bear]

do we get a catalyst charge next week?

[royal lantern]

no

[cunning needle]

no

[haughty flicker]

can confirm

i only use catalyst for transmogs

[dapper halo]

fatebound, opener, if you have master assassin, at what point do you do the vanish thing, when your first garrote is about to run out?

[balmy condor]

why would you have master assassin

[dapper halo]

ok so the vanish thing doesnt matter anymore, then?

[balmy condor]

no, it does

you vanish for double jeopardy

[chrome dirge]

Fatebound poopie for m+ right?

[dapper halo]

whats that

[balmy condor]

yes

[balmy condor]

read fatebound talents pls

[dapper halo]

reading :<

guess i have to

[warm vortex]

Bro it takes like 20 seconds

[balmy condor]

I mean either you read and educate yourself

or you make me type it out

[warm vortex]

And it probably answers your questions

[balmy condor]

and you still need to fucking read it

except now you pissed me off in the process

[dapper halo]

when you accepted the job, you know it was inevitability

my job is tech support, i see that thing everyday <3

[balmy condor]

that's fine

this isn't tech support

this is a hobby

And I'm more than happy to help explain and teach the spec and all its minmax's

[marsh fjord]

Im aboutto crash out just for you bro

bruv is speaking about tech support

in a wow environment

[warm vortex]

Whispyr why is rogues class colour yellow

[marsh fjord]

the fuck are you on about

[warm vortex]

Honestly

[balmy condor]

but I'm not going to sit here and read you what your talents do like a fucking bedtime story

[chrome dirge]

quick question Whispyr, with the current tier is it worth dropping Arterial Precision for Iron Wire?

[warm vortex]

I can’t imagine being in kaivax’s shoes

Or however you spell his name

[royal lantern]

whisp, will linux chew on my cables if im keep doing ambush->garrote->5cp until rupture instead of garrote->mut until 5cp rupture

(i really want to pet linux)

[balmy condor]

I just threw up what the hell

[warm vortex]

No?????

[balmy condor]

no

arterial is your entire AoE burst

don't do that

[dapper halo]

the double jeopardys explainer does really not explain it for me

[static glacier]

That’s fine lmao

[balmy condor]

you drop either master assassin or lightweight shiv

[rotund oak]

droppong AP is like wilingly destroying the spec

[hearty seal]

yellow is for energy duh
everyone else who has energy isn't yellow therefore rogue = best energy class

[chrome dirge]

Oh ok , thank you :)

[warm vortex]

What do you need explained

[balmy condor]

okay, you know how the coin flipping works, yes?

so you vanish, you flip +1 coin

that's why we vanish

[royal lantern]

i mean yeha ofc it is, but i wanna pet the cat

[balmy condor]

for the extra flip

[dapper halo]

ok, so, i really dont want to understand it, i really dont, all i want to know is: what actions to take, everything else is irrevelant

[rotund oak]

get on the line buddy

[warm vortex]

Guide

Whispyr has the rota in the guide

[balmy condor]

you can open wowhead on your own for that

there's a pretty little timeline I made for schmucks like you that waste my fucking time

go look at that

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warcraft-world-of-warcraft-classic-rogue-rogue-pv-p-gif-18999746

[static glacier]

You coulda told him to go and try a key as fatebound, let him draw his own conclusions

[hearty seal]

note how the PoV isn't dead yet

[marsh fjord]

Because we do no damage

[rotund oak]

skill issue

[warm vortex]

Is there even a fatebound build for M+?

I only saw DS ones (for obv reasons)

[marsh fjord]

Bro you do minus damage on fatebound in aoe situations why would there be a m+ for fatebound

[static glacier]

Yes, there is infact a fatebound m+ build, it’s the same as ds

[warm vortex]

I know

[royal lantern]

no, because FB is really bad in everything that has multiple targets

[warm vortex]

Hence why I said for obvious reasons

[static glacier]

It’s less than ds but it’s not low, you can still destroy people in overall

[warm vortex]

Hell the cleave build is on there and idk how many people run it

Not raid cleave, like M+ cleave

[marsh fjord]

oh for you. i can be naked and destroy people in overall. but why would you do that

do you get what i mean

[royal lantern]

ofc you destroy people in overall, assa is overtuned rn lol

[dapper halo]

" Cast Vanish during the effects of both Deathmark and Cold Blood " theres my answer

[royal lantern]

even zeross can pull numbers with it

[dapper halo]

so basically when dm and kingsbane is ticking

[marsh fjord]

Stop it your overbagging instead of sandbagging

[static glacier]

Completely

[warm vortex]

To send a message

[cursive geyser]

i think im dumb and blind, is the streets ring now, crit/haste or Verse/mastery ? because in the journal he is crit/haste but on guide and wowhead he is verse/mastery.

[static glacier]

Which is why I’ll never say it’s good, just that it’s weaker than ds but you can technically play it just like you could go and reroll Aug which would also be dumb

[balmy condor]

I'm putting a different ring in

[cursive geyser]

@balmy condor thanks ❤️

[static glacier]

Priory ring almost the same

Sub-stats lookin ahh ring

[balmy condor]

ye

[rotund oak]

can always craft a ring,not a biggie

[balmy condor]

that's what I'm putting in instead

[drifting bramble]

A geniun question im actually looking for a plater profile who "colours" targets afffected by ruptures are these out there ? to easier track whos bleeded and whos not

[balmy condor]

fuck you oh my god

the stupid macros

[static glacier]

Ngl, actually super happy plexus has that ring

[winged sun]

Yes

Zac has what u need

@midnight mist

Ask him or someshit hes working now tho or sleeping idk

[humble ginkgo]

yo does the pvp dummy fuck with cds or something

ive been tweaking for the past 30 minutes

not knowing why my shit was not lining up

[rotund oak]

pvp dunny has diff scaling

afaik

[humble ginkgo]

i go hit a diff dummy

and my cds just line up perfectly

[balmy condor]

there's bugs with fatebound 4pc

[humble ginkgo]

hm

[royal lantern]

BUGS? in THIS patch??

[humble ginkgo]

like i watched a whole ass guide

cus my shit was not lining up at 3 minutes

[ripe sphinx]

im retiring bro...

back to ol

[humble ginkgo]

and now its just lining up on the raiders dummy

[rotund oak]

😉

[balmy condor]

it's possible you got the 4pc bug that sets your shit to 1min instead of 1:30

[humble ginkgo]

bro what

theres no way that shit can just happen

and fuck everything up

[rotund oak]

[winged sun]

Whispyr is there a fatebound guide for new 4p?

[balmy condor]

yeh the capstone can just randomly like double-proc cause the lucky coin buff from the capstone is a projectile that travels to you, so if you're able to get to double 7 before the projectile reaches you the game thinks you don't have double 7 yet

and then sends another projectile

which then double triggers the 4pc

[humble ginkgo]

dude

[rotund oak]

lol

thats wicked

[humble ginkgo]

is the coldblood bug still in?

[balmy condor]

idk what cold blood bug

[balmy condor]

soonge

[humble ginkgo]

hold on

i might just be tweaking because im too tired bro

[balmy condor]

gonna prolly do something with casualaddict

that's gonna be a banger vid

[royal lantern]

there is no change except "do shiv->dm->kingsbane instead of dm->shiv->kb"

and, well, use vanish after Kingsbane i gues

[humble ginkgo]

like, isnt coldblood always supposed to lineup with KB

[balmy condor]

he said 4pc not 2pc

[balmy condor]

yeh it does

[humble ginkgo]

i just rewatched the clip

my KB

randomly got a fuck ton of cdr

[timber ember]

can some1 explain why deathmark becomes 1.5m with 4pc? heard it alot but i cant find any reason to why it should decrease the cd

[balmy condor]

yeah

that's the bug

[humble ginkgo]

and it wasnt lined up anymore

XD

XDDDDDDDDDDDD

[rotund oak]

one more time plz

[balmy condor]

that's just what it do

[rotund oak]

[humble ginkgo]

and im supposed to play this hero talent

what do i do if its bugged like that just leave CB up till the next kingsbane?

[royal lantern]

🙂

[spice surge]

If you get the bug do you hold kb for deathmark

[balmy condor]

you play everything on 1min timers

[spice surge]

[balmy condor]

yes

you just put kb back to 1min

[rotund oak]

just fyi,fatebound is bugged AF in pvp as well.Coins randomly double triple roll for millions of dmg

[balmy condor]

and dm on 1min

and giga line up everything

[balmy condor]

yeh the coins are all sorts of fucked atm

[spice surge]

Ye figured

[balmy condor]

hoping for a fix soon

[humble ginkgo]

man this is so fucking bad

[balmy condor]

its kinda cooked yeh

[humble ginkgo]

is it not just worth playing DS instead?

if its this buggy

[royal lantern]

FB is ahead by a good chunk for the fights where its good

[rotund oak]

dont think so,DS is well behind FB atm

[royal lantern]

enjoy cringe coinflipping with bugs

[humble ginkgo]

this is just cringe as fuck man

how often does this happen

[rotund oak]

HAHAHAHAHAH

[balmy condor]

This is a positive bug btw

It’s probably +8-10% dps

[humble ginkgo]

XD

fucks with my brain

everything is just in shambles

i play assa because i liked having a stable 2 min cd

[timber ember]

ah thanks, ive only been playing DS so far 😅

[humble ginkgo]

[humble ginkgo]

crazy

[rotund oak]

think its 1:30 anchored now

but ye gotcha

[static glacier]

im guessing its not implementred in sisms

[royal lantern]

dont say that out loud, or they start with CDr mechanics for the next expansion

[balmy condor]

Incredible guess

[rotund oak]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[balmy condor]

It’s not even 100% reproducible

Like it is kinda difficult timing wise

[chrome dirge]

Watch they fix it asap

[rotund oak]

ye nvm im stupid its 2min

[balmy condor]

I mean they should, yes

[static glacier]

thing is it's not THAT rare

just checking llorgs im seeing multiple cases of it for most bosses

[balmy condor]

You’re checking the highest dps on bosses and finding logs that have a bonus 10% dps?

Crazy

[static glacier]

unreal right

(bug also needs 4pc too)

[balmy condor]

Are you also going outside during the day and seeing the sun or what

[static glacier]

have you heard of this thing called glass

it lets you see THROUGH it

so you can stare at the sun from the safety of your own abode

[balmy condor]

Wild

[old terrace]

Does improved garrote snapshot? Does it work during indiscriminate carnage window?

[static glacier]

yes and yes

[old terrace]

Good to know… does anything else snapshot on sin? I thought most things didn’t

[humble ginkgo]

i dont know anyone who wanted assa to be a 1:30 spec

like actually

thats the WHOLE bit of assa

2 minutes

give it back

[balmy condor]

But yeah idk how much stock I would put into using Lorrgs for seeing how common a very strong bug is

[humble ginkgo]

whatever u play deathstalker on most bosses regardless

[balmy condor]

It’s actually just straight up confirmation bias

Textbook definition

[balmy condor]

You definitely don’t

[humble ginkgo]

so theres no way to reproduce it and its insanely strong but u still have to learn to play with it because its kinda common

awesome!

[chrome dirge]

Outside DM do we shiv Tea ?

like if DM is on cd

[balmy condor]

Yes

[static glacier]

ye, I suspect there's people who proc it but aren't aware or refuse to abuse

[humble ginkgo]

would oyu not play it on all the aoe fights

[static glacier]

that and a lot of people won't have 4pc yet

[ripe sphinx]

i feel like a tubby little piece of lard on this spec

[balmy condor]

You play ds on soulbinder, araz, and demon hunters, everything else is fb

[humble ginkgo]

ig

do u just take caustic for nexus king and dim

[balmy condor]

Ye

[humble ginkgo]

ig

this has to go down as the worst tierset in the existence of assassination

[lavish wing]

i like how on hunters top parses r running fckin bleed build

[balmy condor]

1:30 is also ridiculously good on nexus and dimensius

[humble ginkgo]

ya

[balmy condor]

The vast majority of people really like it actually

[humble ginkgo]

🤮

[winged quail]

Bleed build felt surprisingly good on hunters

[humble ginkgo]

if i wanted to be 1:30 id go play sub

im getting old man

assa is my comfort spec

❤️‍🩹

times have changed

[balmy condor]

Idk it really ain’t that big a deal

You just do the assa stuff but slightly more often

[humble ginkgo]

i suppose

[balmy condor]

And it lines up better on fights

[humble ginkgo]

just getting hit with the bug fucked me up lmfao

[balmy condor]

Yeah the bug is aids

[humble ginkgo]

aight gn ty

[lavish wing]

its a bit weird to fish for both 90 and 120s trinkets

[fickle mural]

hey, does anyone have a macro for deathmark trinket and pott?

[static glacier]

idk, there's a lot of garbage tier sets in the history of this spec

[humble ginkgo]

netherprism and use it as a 3m trinket

[balmy condor]

Ever heard of prism

[humble ginkgo]

or do you use it every 1:30

[balmy condor]

3 but it’s fight dependent

[humble ginkgo]

ye

[lavish wing]

some day i might get it 😄

[old terrace]

I’m simming 2.6 mil but I’m getting 1.8 mil st on the dorn target dummy. Is that expected for not having buffs?

[twilit jacinth]

Does anyone have a nice KUI nameplates profile i could copy?

[old terrace]

Or is my rotation that bad?

[balmy condor]

Are you simming without buffs?

[old terrace]

I think I’m simming with buffs. I’m kind of new to this, I don’t know how to turn them off

[balmy condor]

There’s an options box at the bottom

Also the dummies in dorn are often 100% or 0% hp

So that’ll skew the result obviously

[old terrace]

Oh because of the execute bleed thing

[balmy condor]

In my head just raw napkin math I think if you sim 2.6 with buff and then do 1.8

It’s probably close

[fickle mural]

hey, does anyone have a macro for deathmark trinket and pott? 😬✌️

[balmy condor]

That seems almost reasonable

[old terrace]

That’s good to know. It doesn’t seem like there’s too much to this rotation

[balmy condor]

Brother just /use 13 and /use Tempered potion

[lavish wing]

for fb single target rotation, after KB/CB, if we have 5+ cp do we envenom first and then vanish?

[balmy condor]

No

You can vanish before you even hit deathmark for all I care

But you hit vanish before that envenom

[quaint sequoia]

Does Shadowmeld give another subterfuge window?

[old terrace]

Ty guys for the help!

[balmy condor]

No

[vestal geyser]

anyone know if the orbs count for the purposes of damage from CT

[balmy condor]

Yes

[quaint sequoia]

great then I won't change to NE

[lavish wing]

so i can vanish into envenom?

[balmy condor]

That works yes

[lavish wing]

and then muti

aye, tnx

[rough nimbus]

guys this is my first season since SL, my rogue sims 4,3m sub and 4,5m assa in dungeon slice with realistic buffs (BL, some food etc), is that normal or is my character cooked, cause I see ppl doing like 7 to 10m overall damage on some streams

[balmy condor]

Dungeonslice is not a dungeon

The number it spits out is basically entirely made up

[rough nimbus]

ok so i shouldnt trust that

[balmy condor]

I mean you should trust dungeonslice

But the number it gives you at the end is meaningless to what you should expect from an actual dungeon

[unreal loom]

what did they nerf for assa rogue?

cant find anything

[grim jay]

dungeonslice, like any sim, should be used for gearing purposes

[static glacier]

is there a line graph to show ct dmg scaling with # of targets anywhere

[balmy condor]

They hotfixed a bug on caustic spatter

[balmy condor]

0, 40, 60, 80, 100

Sqrt after 8 like everything else

[unreal loom]

do we know the numbers?

[balmy condor]

The bug made caustic spatter do 48% now it’s doing 40% like it’s supposed to

[unreal loom]

aight ty 🙂

[vestal geyser]

one more question, how important is it that we stay above 50% energy for sanguine blades in m+ ST

[earnest quail]

was the hotfix today?

[jolly stirrup]

Whispyr how does your raid prog look?

When mythic

[marsh fjord]

the last thingyou gotta worry about

[humble ginkgo]

do you know if the cdr bug can happen mid pull or only on pull?

[spice surge]

Can happen mid pull

[humble ginkgo]

too much thinking

brain too small

[balmy condor]

Welcome to Season 3

Video for pookies

Things are settling in now, but there are some new stuff:

1. algari mana oil/alternate weapon enchants/crit enchants are very good especially on fatebound. Lots of people were missing a lot of crit, so double check your sims
2. Yes they hotfixed caustic spatter. It was double dipping and doing 48% instead of 40%. This has been fixed.
3. There’s a bug with the fatebound 4pc that is causing double the cooldown reduction. This is a bit tricky to replicate, and we’re hoping for a fix soon. Additionally Momentum of Despair is also bugged and simply does not work. Take follow the blood always instead
4. Netherprism is VERY GOOD. Play it as a 3min trinket on fatebound with 4pc, otherwise macro to deathmark
5. Fatebound on all raid bosses except for soulbinder, araz, and demon hunters. It’s still semi-playable on araz if you’re bad at the mark management, but on deathstalker you just hold vanish for the damage amp and it’s fine
6. Guides are updated, will continue to update, read guide, guide good.

[balmy condor]

Aotc Monday and then into mythic

[balmy condor]

You don’t

[jolly stirrup]

Aotc means what for noobs?

[static glacier]

@balmy condor how come using nether prism on 3m cadence is recommended over 90, like ik the answer is gonna be bigger dam number - I want to know why

[vestal geyser]

kk i figured, i saw the note about it on wowhead guide so i wasnt sure if we should be pooling if we have all our dots up

[marsh fjord]

Because you are getting more stacks

[jolly stirrup]

Whispyr appreciation message!

[static glacier]

im not sure I understand what you're saying

[marsh fjord]

if you would use it every 1:30 it wont be fully stacked

[static glacier]

the total amount of stacks

[marsh fjord]

it needs 180 seconds to stack fully

[static glacier]

over 3m

is the same

if you use it twice

[marsh fjord]

No its not

[golden loom]

but u also vanish every 3 min

so you just move it to the bigger burst window

[static glacier]

okay some napkin maths

stack every 10s

[quartz stirrup]

yes it's the same but you vanish only every 3min so it uses better the buff.

[static glacier]

if you use every 2min it has 12 stacks, every min 6

2 uses of 1 min will be 12

[royal lantern]

idk man, its a tier set effect

as a temporary tier effect thats one of the coolest ones imo

having the choice bettwen 90sec and 2min burst is a nice idea, worlds better then the ussual "assa tierset is 20% mastery"

[marsh fjord]

18 stacks is 180 second. if you would use it on pull. and then 3 minutes later. it would be fully stacked. if you would do it every 90 seconds. you will do it with less stacks @static glacier

[royal lantern]

im more hating fatebound as a concept skip

[humble ginkgo]

im just hating on the bug rn

this pmo

fix it before my raid tomorrow

[quartz stirrup]

it doesn't matter, if vanish didn't have any effect, using the trinket every 1.30min or 3min would be the same. What makes it better is to time it with vanish.

[marsh fjord]

How you mean it doest matter. it gives you more agi. with your bigger burst window

of course it matters

[golden loom]

but the window is only bigger cause of vanish

thats the whole point

[marsh fjord]

Yes thats what im saying 😄

thats why yo uwant to hold it

for 180 seconds

with vanish

[quartz stirrup]

no, that's not what you were saying

[golden loom]

yeah I mean thats not what u were saying

[quartz stirrup]

you didn't mention vanish

dude

when that's the only reason

[marsh fjord]

Let me rephrase myself.

1. You dont use it with the 1:30 because there is no vanish
2. you want it fully stacked with the vanish

[quartz stirrup]

we know

[marsh fjord]

want to get off my dick now mick?

But Mo doesnt

[quartz stirrup]

lmao

so next time, mention vanish

[marsh fjord]

next time stop eating my dick in your mouth

[quartz stirrup]

lmao

keep going man

[marsh fjord]

Because i was in the middle of explaining it you want it fully stacks with vanish before any interuption.

[quartz stirrup]

no, you didn't

[marsh fjord]

i geuss you cant read

[quartz stirrup]

you won't gaslight anyone dude

[marsh fjord]

I aint gaslighting anymore. i was in the middle of explaining it. before you interupting me

[quartz stirrup]

no mention in the first 4 messages 🙂

[marsh fjord]

because i was getting to it but you were so on my dick that i needed to shove it any deeper

[quartz stirrup]

i'll stop arging with you, waste of time

[marsh fjord]

the guy said: the stacks doesnt matter. the stacks def does matter.

[balmy condor]

You get vanish every 3 min so you buff an extra edge case

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosolostan-gif-22443651

[balmy condor]

Last boss heroic

[marsh fjord]

@balmy condor Why is it that you dont want to vanish before DM in the opener to get the coins buff. but you do want to do so in the 3 minut mark

[chilly bay]

I have a question
every fatebound start with tails in single target bosses
but what if the coin starts with heads? can I control what to start?

[balmy condor]

You do

[balmy condor]

You can’t control it and it doesn’t matter

[jolly stirrup]

Ah. Good luck

[marsh fjord]

but here its's after kB?

[warped kiln]

it could depend of the duration fight no ? for exemple a 7mn fight or 5:30

[balmy condor]

Yep that’s fine too

[marsh fjord]

But optimally. you want to shiv/vanish/DM?

[fresh mica]

/gear

!gear

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1405681489470951594/sin_.webp

[chilly bay]

I cannot control? so all WCL highest players starts with tails are just a coincidence?

[balmy condor]

I mean technically yes, but if it’s 7m you would prism 3min, 6min, 6:45kb

if it was 5:30 you would prism 3:00 and 4:30 and 5:15 kb

[balmy condor]

Yes

[chilly bay]

I wonder if there's no dps diff between heads and tails

[balmy condor]

There is but it’s not relevant

You’re flipping edge case coins during every set of cooldowns

Outside of cooldowns the coins are fully random

[agile wedge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4NeoRur4wFtKt8WLQNfL1F this tells me to break old 2p? or did i set up something wrong?

[balmy condor]

That’s 2+2?

[chilly bay]

when I refill the rupture, should I use it less than 5 bubbles to not to make coin accident? or it also doesn't matter?

[agile wedge]

ôh nvm

i dont wear helm

[jolly stirrup]

Wait can you have 2 tiersets active?

[agile wedge]

it just looks like set

[balmy condor]

You want to use 5cp in order to flip a coin

[balmy condor]

Yes, 2 set from previous season and the 2 set of current season

[agile wedge]

mb sry

[jolly stirrup]

Is that the way to go? Or do I go for GS

[chilly bay]

never I played fatebound it's so difficult to learn and make me dizzy to control coin filp

[jolly stirrup]

GS right?

[balmy condor]

Until you get the 4pc

[balmy condor]

It’s literally the easiest, most passive hero talent that exists

You’re just inventing shit that doesn’t exist

[jolly stirrup]

Mhm I see

[balmy condor]

You use a finisher, you flip a coin

that’s it

[jolly stirrup]

Sad, I was hoping that I get 2pc, and then can trash my old gear for gear, that's literally 40GS higher

[chilly bay]

am I creating concern by myself lul so no need to think about heads or tails when I use my skills?

[balmy condor]

No

[marsh fjord]

@balmy condor it is kinda weird to press DM as your first global when your vanish ngl

[spice surge]

You honestly dont even need to track the coins

[balmy condor]

You could just not track the coins at all if it’s making you anxious

Yeah

[balmy condor]

Okay then don’t

[crisp venture]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[marsh fjord]

Nah i will

[balmy condor]

Okay then do

[marsh fjord]

:Ð

[hearty reef]

I got 13 heads in a row yesterday

[marsh fjord]

damn you packing like that huh?

[whole mason]

Any equivalent ilvl for ring to replace Jastor?

[marsh fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simulate-gif-8199108223823847654

[balmy condor]

Myth track like 715-718 I think

Depends highly on the stats

I saw some people replacing at like 710

[whole mason]

Yeah, cannot say sin yourself in some community otherwise they put an arrogant hat on you, they need a number

[whole mason]

Thank you.

[marsh fjord]

Oh i couldnt give a shit what people think about me

[golden loom]

time to replace some enchants

[whole mason]

Sorry for the confusion, my here means my community

[marsh fjord]

The day i give a shit what anyone thinks of me when i try to help someone is the day you can bury me 6 feet deep bro

[golden loom]

I hecking love how this is my trinket situation after 40 keys though

[balmy condor]

Based

[golden loom]

cant even use signet cause crit heaven

[whole mason]

I totally understand. It is just sometimes very complicated in some cn community.

[marsh fjord]

Been doing 10's in floodgate but havent seen the trinket drop for nobody.

done like 20 of them ish

[worldly bridge]

i joined a random pug group to practise on Araz and killed him without guildies lol wtf

[marsh fjord]

now you gotta tell your raid leader your locked for that fight

and be on the bench

[worldly bridge]

i've got trinket, i should keep it for deathstalker boss correct ?

[worldly bridge]

Nah it's fine i've got his blessing since i couldnt attend next raid anyway

[cold plover]

[marsh fjord]

congratz

but yeah you use it with DS. im not sure if you can use it with fatebound. because you delay it quite a bunch

You would use it on pull + on your 3 minutes again.

But that means delaying it for other minut

[worldly bridge]

ill give it a try ty

[marsh fjord]

@balmy condor lets ask the man he prolly knows. if you have araz and your playing fatebound. is worth other minut worth it over a netherprism? prob nah right?

[vague dragon]

yo in aoe some time i have 5 CP do i press envenom or have always use it with 6or7 CP

[analog field]

after leaving it up for the whole night we have a result crit is not bad for m+ so go all and enchant everything you have with crit

[warm vortex]

Or sim

[balmy condor]

What

[drifting bramble]

how is the opener now with 4 set as Fatebound
And as DS

does it change

[warm vortex]

!guide

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[warm vortex]

Look on wowhead

[marsh fjord]

Is araz trinket worth it delaying by 1 minut for fatebound

[balmy condor]

Oh

Yeah

[stable apex]

FB does shiv before dm

[marsh fjord]

or would you rather use prism?

[stable apex]

And you send vanish for coin

[balmy condor]

But if you’re playing araz on fb you’d probably just rather kys

[warm vortex]

You always do this with 2 shiv

[marsh fjord]

XD

[warm vortex]

Iirc

[stable apex]

I meant the vanish for FB

Mb

[warm vortex]

Yea Lilly seems like the play

At least my sims say

[warm vortex]

Ah aight

[jolly stirrup]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1403486905915408524/Dark_Mode.jpg

[stable apex]

Death stalker opener doesn't change with set(I think)?

[warm vortex]

I’m so hyped to get my 4 set

[soft willow]

U can delay your second shiv by 2 sec

[warm vortex]

That and pacemaker

Really hope it or Lilly don’t take to long, at least i have Lilly on champ

[tawny rapids]

!belt

[drifting bramble]

i got the wrathstone from ulduar but dno if its simbait but it keeps outsimming almost every trinket lol

[worldly bridge]

i've got the trink and a lily on lower ilvl, i was thinking about using lily on fb and keeping araz for DS fights

[tawny rapids]

is there a maro to remove the belt when going into stealth so it doesnt take me out

its fucking me in m+

[spice surge]

Nah its good

[warm vortex]

Isn’t that the massive ahil one

[soft willow]

Its great trinket for Assa Massif

[warm vortex]

*agil

[drifting bramble]

get like 25k agi lol

[warm vortex]

Bro yes

It’s nutty

[worldly bridge]

even for M+its prob insane

[warm vortex]

I’ve got priory on hero and lily on champ

So I might do that tbh
But honestly lily might just be outright better than priory

[vague dragon]

can anyone help

[balmy condor]

Yeah that’s fine

[drifting bramble]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/kazzak/Subtilus?season=season-tww-3 do people understand the build he is playing seems hes pumping keys yet never played that build myself

[balmy condor]

You always finish on 5 except for darkest night

[terse reef]

!wa

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[sullen fjord]

yo, are there any intereseting trinkets in delves?

[balmy condor]

He logged out in raid talents I guess

[balmy condor]

No

[warm vortex]

Whispyr, what is your fav Assa talent

[drifting bramble]

if i check his keys specs i think hes playing that

[balmy condor]

Well if I check his keys it doesn’t say that he’s using the addon

[warm vortex]

Can’t you look at logs?

[balmy condor]

Idk if that’s a mobile thing

[balmy condor]

Basically no one logs m+

[warm vortex]

Fairs

I prolly should tho to see where I’m fuggin up

[drifting bramble]

is supercharger KB still playable or is it cocking ur team not to play bleed

[warm vortex]

Define playable

[balmy condor]

It’s still playable for sure

But not those talents you linked from that guy

[drifting bramble]

i play this for supercharger but in general playing bleed

just like the lil bit more ST from supercharger

[balmy condor]

Yeah that’s fine

[warm vortex]

Gosh no subter would feel weird for me

[balmy condor]

That’s what would feel weird, not the lack of garrote?

[warm vortex]

Wait no shrouded suf?

Or whatever it’s called

[balmy condor]

No improved garrote

[warm vortex]

I didn’t see that

I mean

I guess it’s just full on enven sim

[balmy condor]

Yep

[warm vortex]

Ok ignore what I said might try this then

Or maybe that’s the work boredom tempting me

Only 30 min left anyway

[drifting bramble]

whats the KB build you guys would prefer?

[balmy condor]

Probably that

[warm vortex]

I’d prolly go hybrid myself

[balmy condor]

But kb builds bad

[warm vortex]

But I’d be down to try that

Sounds fun

[balmy condor]

Hybrid definitely not

[warm vortex]

Maybe ur bad

Whispyr more like
Pisspyr

[drifting bramble]

the higher the keys the worse it becomes versus bleed i rekon

[lean plover]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[golden loom]

I mean in both directions

[balmy condor]

The lower the key the worse it is too

[golden loom]

bleed in lowkeys is thanos on crack cocaine

[warm vortex]

Do you think thanos wouldn’t have snapped his fingers if he tried cocaine and heroin

[golden loom]

maybe

[warm vortex]

I think he’d vibe with it

[drifting bramble]

think imma just sitck to bleed XD everytime time i do the same dungeons theres like a 1mil to 1.5 mil overall diffrence compared to kB builds if not more

meh XD

[quiet zephyr]

anyone facing this issue while playing m+ the new belt is getting me out stealth

[marsh fjord]

whawt power do you have on? and can you show me your daggers?

[quiet zephyr]

lighting rod

[drifting bramble]

thats the reason

[quiet zephyr]

theres no other option ?

[polar sleet]

Use electric current

[normal mist]

lighting rod//intellect daggers, best combo ever

[drifting bramble]

can any1 test out Wrathstone on champion track Max vs signet hc track max my sims are fucking around right now i kinda wnna see if its still worth to even farm signet right now

[normal mist]

how come

you can do that on raidbots

[agile current]

do we use shiv in ct in aoe and st?

[hollow pulsar]

hey guys wich means "4pc" ? combo points?

[deft shard]

piece set

[hollow pulsar]

ty my lord ❤️

[deft shard]

❤️

[earnest sigil]

is it worth it running guille enchant even in m+? sims say so

[normal mist]

then it is

for m+ sims tell me to use versatility enchants on the weapons

[shy axle]

what makes crit so valuable for fatebound?

[earnest sigil]

both m+ and raid sims tells me to run guille for some reason

[spice surge]

Deal fate

[shy axle]

thank you

[brave stump]

i never played shadow lands but is it a gain to apply wound poison shortly before dark communion cast on miniboss before last boss? HoA

or is that troll

[normal mist]

oh btw thanks eleem for letting me know that secundary stats enchants on weapons could be the play, sims did tell me to swap to versa for m+

[agile wedge]

whats the call on momentum of despair vs follow the blood. robot says its better so as always trust robot?

[half dawn]

i think im gonna have to go back to tanking

[spice surge]

With bleed build you use garrote to build a lot so the crit on fok isnt as relevant, and crimson tempest does a lot of damage

[drifting bramble]

sims want me to go like 20% haste as bleed

[spice surge]

So buffing it by 48% is worth more than the extra cp

[drifting bramble]

like dno wtf to sim anymore at this point

[fair sky]

!wa

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[agile wedge]

why is it 48%? i may have missread somewhere

i tested mod in and 11flood and my ct dmg is (obv) way lower than usual

[azure roost]

how di play soulbinder?

[exotic salmon]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

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[spice surge]

Tier set buffs deathstalker effects by 60%

But yes its baseline 30%

[static glacier]

this is the new class thats gonna take our m+ spot smh

[agile wedge]

ty

[royal lantern]

can you mark it as NSFW pls, saw it and immediatly busted the biggest nut of the year

[jolly stirrup]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1403486905915408524/Dark_Mode.jpg

[static glacier]

difficult q but at what amount of targets / crit % would momentum of despair overtake follow the blood?

[spice surge]

None

or well, 1 target exactly i guess since follow doesnt work then

[static glacier]

xd

[spice surge]

Obviously if we swap specs or they nerf crimson its a different story

[tight condor]

Anyone know if recrafting the dagger still works to get free upgrades?

[spice surge]

It does not

Didnt work last season either

[tight condor]

[ripe sphinx]

i crafted dagger

and i suck at sin

so now im sad

i have an off hand ig tho

[normal mist]

what does one thing has to do with the other

you can also play sub

[devout mist]

So i dont have 4 set yet but haste stuff sims rly high for me for some reason, it eats into my mastery pretty badly.

[tight condor]

In DS (bleed / ST) we still shiv after dm right?

[normal mist]

yes

[tight condor]

I just see Zeross do the opposide

Idno why

[static glacier]

it's an inevitability that if you add enough crit chance momentum always ends up winning, it's just probably more than we can feasibly run without griefing our other sources of damage

[spice surge]

Why would it be inevitable?

[humble verge]

what is he doing 🤨

[tight condor]

Shiv > CT > DM

Idk

[drifting bramble]

is it DM > shiv > CT ?

[spice surge]

Like if you have 85% crit baseline, then you'd on average get ~8% more damage from the crit chance and then ~16% more damage from the crit damage (assuming we are only looking at CT damage)

[tight condor]

Think its CT > DM > Shiv

[spice surge]

Most of the power from momentum is from the increased crit chance on fok

[static glacier]

forgive me if i've missunderstood but doesn't momentum give 32% crit dam

[spice surge]

Yes

[merry zephyr]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

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[spice surge]

So the damage of a crit goes from 200% to 232%

Which is an 16% increase

[static glacier]

AH

I thought it was 32% as in 264%

its not multiplicative

[spice surge]

For the most part crit damage is always additive in wow

For some reason

Same goes for lethality and the trickster builder talent

(dwarf and tauren are an exception for some reason)

[static glacier]

fair, in that case follow the blood seems to just win on ct dam

im curious about the balance of that node for sub

if they keep buffing bp like this there might be a future it's a playable hero tree

[spice surge]

As with all the other nodes, it doesnt work on shadowed finishers

So the increased crit on shuriken storm is usually better for more fw

They also made darkest night uncancelable in this patch

Which i guess is their fix to sub wanting to cancelaura it in aoe

[static glacier]

yeah ive noticed something is up with it when I press shiv ( i dont have 4pc)

[spice surge]

[static glacier]

like the buff blinks out of existence for a split second on wa

[scarlet orbit]

Why is that that so often stuff doesn't buff the shadow part from subs finishers but only the pyhsical hit? Like it feels like its extremly common

[spice surge]

Because its two seperate spells

And they forget that it is

[static glacier]

they really aught to streamline some of sub's underlying mechanics

[burnt shard]

guys will we get a catalyst charge next week? or nay

[marsh fjord]

no

[burnt shard]

aye thanks

[scarlet orbit]

So its not just takes a % dmg from the spell on top but its a OWN spell they try to balance so it does the same % of the dmg?

[spring oar]

how bad is fatebound for m+?

[spice surge]

Yes

[static glacier]

worse than ds, better than some other classes

[drifting bramble]

can i bind Cold blood to shiv ?

in a macro or na

[spice surge]

Kingsbane

[drifting bramble]

for ST fatebound

aight

[static glacier]

it should be on kb

[drifting bramble]

so like CB/KB right

[spice surge]

Order doesnt matter

[static glacier]

you just want to buff the envenoms after kb

[spice surge]

Its baseline 30% of the number it does before armor, so in practice it ends up doing more like ~40% of the damage that you actually see your physical eviscerate doing

[river vapor]

So on araz you guys don’t bother putting mark on non boss enemies?

[static glacier]

I tried it and ended up playing 40% of the fight without a mark

don't be me

[spice surge]

If evis would do 100, then armor reduces it to 77 (with find weakness) and then shadowed finishers does 30

[river vapor]

I mean it’s either that or not having your mark up for damage amp right? Fatebound feels so much nicer to play I wish they didn’t gimp it in aoe

[raw marlin]

When do we shut down the discord so we get a 10% buff?

[drifting bramble]

so the opener now with 4 set / fatebound is Shiv > DM into KB?

[river vapor]

Mark is just so unfun to play around

[static glacier]

honestly we're super fortunate all we got was a bigfix

[devout mist]

Mark is a bad joke

[static glacier]

i was expecting like 10% ct nerf

[devout mist]

Idk if any spec has to do the mental gymnastists we have to do in m+

[viral apex]

So for M+ , is it still good to run all crit?

[static glacier]

if they decide to favour gameplay over thematic they'll let it be a self buff on us

[devout mist]

With mark, dropping combat when possible bla bla bla

[spice surge]

Enhance has a bunch of stuff

[scarlet orbit]

[static glacier]

i wouldn't say good, but functional is ok

you've got a lot of external crit from MA in keys

that and dn is a bigger portion of damage and that cant crit, even if access to it is sped up by crit

[viral apex]

I see, thanks

Do you guys use unyielding netherprism for m+?

[restive quarry]

anyone know if in first boss u can shadowstep instead of using extra button?

[rotund condor]

stupid question, but is deathmark duplicating the debuffs or duplicating the damage? As in, if my garrote only has 5s remaining, does deathmark duplicate that 5s garrote or is it just doubling the damage, so to say?

[latent verge]

Are they gonna raise the cap on crests this week?

[zenith prairie]

You can shadow step if you’re close enough

[fresh mica]

!gear

[prisma monolith]

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[young spoke]

Is there anyone who is Spanish who can help me please?

[latent verge]

I thought the barrier would kill you? I haven’t tried it for that reason lol

[drifting bramble]

is there any1 out here with Plater profile that changes the colour of your name plates if you got a rupture applied to it ? and would be able to share it would be appreciated

[latent verge]

I’d love this. @ me if you find it

[raw marlin]

Not Spanish but hablo español

[ebon cloud]

do we vanish before DM?

or after KB?

[raw marlin]

What build?

[ebon cloud]

fatebound st

with 4 pce

[raw marlin]

After CB

[ebon cloud]

so after KB

ye sweet

[raw marlin]

Yeah last button

Before going ham

[ebon cloud]

b4 first envenom

inside cds

yep cool

tyty

[raw marlin]

Si

[raw marlin]

Que necesitas?

[astral nymph]

hi guys- is there a wa for auto tricks on tank?

[spice surge]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[mild tiger]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

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[raw marlin]

This macro refuses to work for me. 😂

[spice surge]

Do you have the WA

[scarlet wyvern]

didnt even notice spatter was 48% but 8% nerf is yikes

or hotfix*

[grim jay]

its not that big

[rotund oak]

just bad to hear in general 😂

[grim jay]

no

fixing bugs is good

losing some damage might make it less likely to get hit by a big bat aswell

[rotund oak]

not talking for bugs though

[raw marlin]

Yeah it works like at start of dungeon then never again even if I’m shagging the tanks leg.

[young spoke]

te he hablado al priv 😄

[raw marlin]

Ok ahurita te respondo

[patent glade]

how many % gives bonus set

?

[grim jay]

as many % as it sims higher for you

[grim jay]

maybe they can buff some of the ST if we lose more aoe

[balmy hatch]

Hello, can someone tell me whats the name of the weakaura or addon to track allies's spell? I would like to track my friend warrior reflect spell please

[river vapor]

Would it be so bad if they made mark a spell you can apply yourself

[warm flint]

omnicd

[raw marlin]

In pretty sure mark is the way it is because of DnD ruleset where you apply the mark then when the target dies you move it to another target for free.

It’s just shit in wow world cause one it’s not turn based and 2 we swap allot more

[river vapor]

yeah idk how any dev could see how it works on a boss fight with target swapping and think "this makes sense"

[pastel pilot]

[twilit wasp]

how! just teach me how!

[small garnet]

anyone has the kingsbane coldblood macro

[static glacier]

Have two target capped dps in the group and have the tank pull like a man

[pastel pilot]

Big pull and opti team tbh.

[twilit wasp]

one day im gonna be like you

hahaha

[static glacier]

wp to you regardless

[solar socket]

do u rupture/garrote ur main target 10 times or do u tab every time

[pastel pilot]

I select all target at mouse for opti all dot.

[solar socket]

do u tab tab or mouseover

idfk maybe im washed

[pastel pilot]

Mouse click.

[solar socket]

i should just play better ig

[rigid geyser]

Do you rupture/garrote all targets in a big pull at the opener?

[solar socket]

gj

[pastel pilot]

All target with hp, not no elite mobs, and refresh all garote with vanish.

[vague dragon]

i have to keep energy above 50% on bosses and not envenom ?

[pastel pilot]

Little buff dps to stay above yes.

But keep dot active 100%.

[pure raptor]

do we still dry shiving?

[vague dragon]

so when i using my envenom i dont understand

[charred mango]

How far behind deathstalker is fatebound in m+? Wish there was more use for fatebound outside of st

[near valley]

unplayable tier

[solar socket]

what plater are u using if u can share

[viral axle]

Hey so i was just simming for fatebound and deathstalker build. Lily sims 60k more for fatebound and signet sims better for deathstalker. Also i am noticing that deathstalker sims tell me to get more haste thand fatebound. Just wondering if anyone could explain why that is, interested in the logic

[tranquil stirrup]

Hi! Ritual forge sims like twice as much as Netherprism trinket ( with Fatebound talents, but dont have 2pc or 4pc).
Reading guides sounds like Netherprism is better. So is it because I dont have new 4pc ? Or is it some secret tech or smth ?

[burnt turret]

!loot

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1405681489470951594/sin_.webp

[rigid geyser]

Anyone know how to set a different colour if the target has no rupture or garrote on Plater?

[sly spoke]

did they nerf assa already

[vague dragon]

@near valley what do u think about that

[near valley]

was this question for st or in m+

[vague dragon]

yeah

m+

sorry

[raw marlin]

We are unnerfable

[spice surge]

4p makes deathmark 90s instead of 2 min

[near valley]

I don't play around it

and if ur grp is pulling shit with boss you wouldn't anyway

[tranquil stirrup]

I see, that clears up things, thanks you 🙂

[normal mist]

my first delve map, AMA

[near valley]

just spam envenom when u can

[static glacier]

have you killed kyveza?

[near valley]

how long did it take you?

shit takes forever to get 2nd level

and wasted my keys before the hotfix

[normal mist]

nop, got a map from the last bountiful delve today, and ran a normal 11

[static glacier]

you're set for kyveza with the leech trinket

[teal osprey]

Guys can I pvp as assass without being a multi time r1 with several glad mounts and a rocket scientist

[normal mist]

not long, didnt do delves for like 2 days i believe

[normal mist]

#pvp

[teal osprey]

They should make a pvp channel for each spec

Tbh

[hollow river]

[near valley]

would be more a ghost town than the one we have

[teal osprey]

[near valley]

no offence @hollow river

[hollow river]

[vague dragon]

guys i need to be sure about envenom cp in aoe i can send envenom whenever I got 5cp or i have envenom at 6-7 cuz this Sanguine Stratagem

[barren yarrow]

is this fatebound?

[static glacier]

most certainly not

[golden loom]

Finisher rules: always finish on 5+, only force 7 when you have darkest night

[normal mist]

feels good upgrading my own weapon

[barren yarrow]

nice

[static glacier]

the agility being greyed out

gave me conniptions

[normal mist]

yeah its a warrior BS 😛

[barren yarrow]

bleed then?

[dapper halo]

miauw

[static glacier]

almost certainly, no other build runs AP which is needed to benefit from new tierset in aoe.

[fervent marsh]

HEy all we get some nerfs right? after this outlaw can be better ?

[static glacier]

idk, probably not

even if OL is worse you can do v well with it, look at zac

[thick juniper]

!wa

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Whispyr's Plater

[fervent marsh]

nice 😄 this will be interetings, what will be the metacomps now

in m+

[static glacier]

monitor this, draw your own conclusion. the meta is in flux atm

pun fully intended

https://mythicstats.com/meta

[fervent marsh]

oh nice, ty looks like havoc goes brr:D

[onyx pond]

What nerfs ? I don't see a blue post

[static glacier]

bugfix to spatter doubledipping aura buffs

[spring token]

first key with assa could someone quickly look over it and give me 1-2 tipps its only a +4 tho

[static glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/opening-the-treasure-chest-gwent-gwent-the-witcher-card-game-inside-the-treasure-chest-sparkling-treasure-chest-gif-26925898

[static glacier]

log a key

[onyx pond]

Only this ?

[static glacier]

yep

[onyx pond]

Thats what 1% nerf ?

[barren yarrow]

so we wanna use mana oil for raid and stones for M+ or just always oil?

[static glacier]

a bit more

iirc its like 3

[analog field]

seems fine i would say with a quick glance

maybe low sd? but a bit random

[onyx pond]

That's fine

[static glacier]

you can sim it. copy this, go to advanced sim and add a new line after posting ur simc input and put this in

[jaunty kayak]

how come we dont want sang blades (>150 energy) in m+ st anymore?

[static glacier]

erm

but I gota get you the new one

[barren yarrow]

put what in?

[static glacier]

im trying to see if there's a copy pasta with all the tww wep runes

you can manually write it with different item names

[barren yarrow]

nvm

oh?

so not this way?

[half moss]

Hey all. So to confirm, we want algari diamond, then different gem types for the extra crit as default? Or do we not always max the aglari diamond crit before the standard masterful rubies/Sim options

[clever sparrow]

we bleed on HoA too?

[static glacier]

that just sims with one, you want to compare them

[teal osprey]

Is assass good aoe or shitty game

[barren yarrow]

ah ok i suck with simming lol

[static glacier]

###################

Weapon enchants

###################
profileset."Ironclaw Whetstone x2"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:ironclaw_whetstone_3/off_hand:ironclaw_whetstone_3"
profileset."Algari Mana Oil x2"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:algari_mana_oil_3/off_hand:algari_mana_oil_3"
profileset."Oil of Deep Toxins x2"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:oil_of_deep_toxins_3/off_hand:oil_of_deep_toxins_3"
profileset."Bubble_Wax x2"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:bubbling_wax/off_hand:bubbling_wax"
profileset."Bubble_Wax + Mana Oil"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:bubbling_wax/off_hand:algari_mana_oil_3"
profileset."Bubble_Wax + Deep Toxin"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:bubbling_wax/off_hand:oil_of_deep_toxins_3"
profileset."Bubble_Wax + Whetstone"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:bubbling_wax/off_hand:ironclaw_whetstone_3"
profileset."No Weapon oil"+=temporary_enchant=disabled

copy this, go advanced sim, put it after ur simc input from ingame addon.

[barren yarrow]

kk

how did you generate that?

[static glacier]

its written

same format as onces we've had in the past

just changed item names

[barren yarrow]

so you had to write this yourself?

im sorry im dumb

[static glacier]

i didnt originally write it dw

[barren yarrow]

oh

[static glacier]

god knows who did to begin with

one of the tcs probably

[barren yarrow]

i got this error "Error: Unexpected parameter 'Weapon'. Expected format: name=value
SimulationCraft 1120-01 for World of Warcraft 11.2.0.62610 Live"

no spaces?

[static glacier]

try copying from here, fuu formatted it to be cleaner to copy #subtlety message

[sturdy python]

have I really sniped the vid at 1337 views or is it just a YT dev meme the new 301

[barren yarrow]

oh im dumb i copied even the hashes

[rare jackal]

i embrace the edge era

[static glacier]

the hashes are meaningless

they're not parsed by the sim, they're just to clarify what it is you're simming

stuff between them is ignored

[sturdy mesa]

Which talent c ould you possibly give up to get Iron wire without gimpin too hard

[covert ibex]

anyone have a good plater profile?

im using dratnos one from like 6 years ago

[tawdry root]

I think running single shiv is recommended a lot

[formal pewter]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[formal pewter]

2 plater options right there to try

[covert ibex]

ty

[obtuse meteor]

hello, i have a question, if someone could answer me please 🙂 when grabbing a big pack (+8), you apply rupture and garrote only to the main target and let it spread, or you go 1 by 1 on the ones who are missing the dots?

[barren yarrow]

hmm its still not working

i put this after my simc code yeah?

[pulsar plank]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[proper bobcat]

if i get 2 lucky coins at start should i hold my KB to line up with coldblood or just use it ?

[half dawn]

Is there a recommended build for each boss somewhere?

I swear it used to be in IV/Wowhead, but maybe for outlaw guides

or I could've dreamed it up

[latent cypress]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/manaforge-omega-raid-tips

[barren yarrow]

probably go into your CDs

since DM is 90 seconds and KB is 1 min itll refresh for your 3 min window

thats my understanding

[half dawn]

thank you sir

[proper bobcat]

so i just use kb when its ready ?

[barren yarrow]

@static glacier

[night prawn]

Guys someone know why eda trincket is above psf on bis gear wowhead? i think psf is better in m+ no ?

[barren yarrow]

consult the guide but yeah thats my understanding of it

[barren yarrow]

straight mastery

[fresh kelp]

Assuming you have 4p both kb and cold blood have the same cooldown (45s)

So they should always line up

If you don’t you hold cold blood for kb

[analog field]

you have the talent Indiscriminate carnage where it spreads it for you, if you can mouseover to the important targets it's technically best but don't worry just spam 2-3 rups and enevenom and you are good

[barren yarrow]

thanks Ryldd i didnt mention that part

oops lol sorry!

if you goto wowhead and deselect fatebound 4pc itll show you the rotation

this is for raid ST

[fresh kelp]

Actually he might be talking about the bug to get the double 4p

[barren yarrow]

oh

[fresh kelp]

I don’t know if any sims have been done for that

[barren yarrow]

then i have no clue

[golden loom]

I have a feeling my signet is gonna give crit

[proper bobcat]

ye some times i get 2 lucky coins i guess its not a bug its RNG

[fresh kelp]

well it is a bug to trigger 4p twice

[proper bobcat]

and my KB cd is going to be 30 secs

and deathmark 1 min

[viral axle]

in m+ is it better to play 2 set 2 set ? i simmed 5 target for 40 sec and it does more

[rotund oak]

wasnt talking about ST either

[analog field]

go with dungeon slice better

[long hawk]

Hey what’re your cd rotations like with fb? It the same as the opener or do we just go straight into it like we do with ds?

[analog field]

probably 4set will be better

[grim jay]

well but I was, that was just an opinion. the "nerf" you reacted to previously was a bugfix, so you kinda were talking about a fix tho

[rotund oak]

never hitting on you ever again

[sudden brook]

Does anybody have an any weapon Sim

Bubbling wax. Mana oil

All combos

[grim jay]

[rotund oak]

pins

and new whispyr vid

[fresh kelp]

yeah guy read your pins!

[rotund oak]

lazy pirates be pirating

[barren yarrow]

i just posted it

do you want it?

[sudden brook]

I just woke up

[sudden brook]

No flame

[barren yarrow]

nono im sincere

is this what your looking for?

[sudden brook]

Ya

[barren yarrow]

word

now to figure out how tf to get bubble wax lol

[grim jay]

dang, how can we tell people to sim their gear if not even guy does it

[rotund oak]

we know oil is .2% better than whetstone atm

[shy axle]

4p ds set is just watching out to use shiv when you got at least one stack left to not waste it or something else to "game" it?

[rotund oak]

guile enchants about .5%

[grim jay]

for me 2x mana oil is bis