assassination

[keen spruce]

mayo in place of butter is fine

[noble garden]

!gear

[woeful galleon]

whats the macro command

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1404831391778078741/assa.webp

[keen spruce]

putting a glob of mayo inside the sandwich

not okay

[weary stump]

Mayo you use instead of butter there for creaminess and a better exterio- oh wait I see what you mean

[woeful galleon]

!macros

[weary stump]

Yeah that's crazy

[woeful galleon]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[balmy condor]

!marco

yeah

[gritty laurel]

!polo

[naive crescent]

[keen spruce]

if it ain't hero tier, remember that vault 1 is one of the best time to grab coins

cuz you're not feeling bad about abandoning myth track

[weary stump]

But consider the following, hot sauce inside a grilled cheese you give to someone else

Don't tell them of this secret ingredient

[keen spruce]

hot sauce inside grilled cheese is gud

but yes ambushing people with spicy always funny

[naive crescent]

i put pickle in my grilled cheese today 🙂

[weary stump]

Yes

[keen spruce]

that sounds pretty gud actually

[weary stump]

Pickle is great crunch

This is grilled cheese chat

[waxen oyster]

didnt do delves smh

[long oak]

?

[iron sinew]

You guys are blowing your grilled cheese cooldowns too early, that’s the perfect meal after grinding 8 hrs of keys and going for another 8 after

[keen spruce]

this is grilled cheese theory discussion

[waxen oyster]

8 hours of keys

seek help

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[quaint nimbus]

i hate themm 😭

[waxen oyster]

i too hate free gear

[dense gale]

Anyone know when I should break my tier 2 set bonuses? is 20+ ilvls worth breaking it?

[keen spruce]

2+2 hero big upgrade

I think 2+2 champ basically a wash

if you want accurate number just sim

1 piece of new tier probably not enough

to lose old bonus

[turbid sandal]

so, doing lfr - my buddy got wraps from every boss and I got none. Is it random or am I bugged?

[keen spruce]

Whispyr novel incoming

[raw marlin]

So why is hopeful banned guys. Let me know 😂

[turbid sandal]

oh no...they always make me feel dumb 🙁

[red schooner]

Wow, spoilers

[keen spruce]

he stopped typing

[hasty acorn]

are rogues playing without crimson ? D:

[gritty laurel]

in raid? yeah absolutely. in keys? only if they're trolling

[hasty acorn]

okay

[golden loom]

well Max just let it slip it was account sharing

[balmy condor]

Season 3 FAQ, YOUR ANSWER IS IN THE GUIDE OR THIS PIN BUT MOST LIKELY BOTH

EQUIP NEW TIER BONUSES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE THEY ARE STRONGER THAN BOTH PREVIOUS SEASONS BONUSES COMBINED THE NEW BONUS IS DUMMY SILLY BANANAS STRONG EQUIP EQUIP EQUIP EQUIP EQUIP

General

• Delve belt is replaced at 710ish (max hero track) or higher

RAID

• On Araz you will want to hold vanish to apply the mark for every damage amp. The pylons do not give you darkest night, but the intermission is also super whatever. Just manage your mark in p1, do whatever in the intermission, reapply on the damage amp, rinse repeat
• Fatebound is slightly better EVEN BEFORE TIER, tier is stronger for fatebound and will pull ahead later
• Before 2 piece, fatebound is a 50/50 gamble to get capstone
• We vanish for Double Jeopardy, read the fatebound talents
• We macro cold blood to kingsbane because we're match edge cases, read the talents
• You can macro vanish to deathmark in theory, but it's probably better to just have it on its own key
• Yes Prism is Bis, you would hold it for 3min ideally to line up with vanish, but it's a min max of about 0.5% so you can also just macro vanish and prism to DM if you don't want to think about literally anything.
• FATEBOUND KB BUG HAS BEEN FIXED
• Deathstalker is still totally fine to play if you prefer and better on the aoe fights.
• If you have 3+ adds consistently -> play deathstalker, otherwise -> fatebound

Mythic+

• Bleed build on everything
• Fatebound is horrible, Deathstalker always
• We still CT in single target with bleed build
• Spread imp gar to everything
• Ruptures should be spread until at minimum 5, but can be further spread if you think you will lose scent of blood stacks to quickly dying mobs. This is not an exact science and will depend on the specifics of each pull. Bigger aoe = more caustic value, so generally you will won't want to rupture more than like 8-9 mobs max

I will keep this updated as more questions pop up for early week. Sims are updated, always sim yourself. The guides are up to date (wowhead has some slight formatting errors and stuff that needs fixing and I am aware, but if you see something let me know)

[coral ibex]

what was the bug btw

[gritty laurel]

kingsbane stacks were resetting

[golden loom]

KB buff not matching duration

[coral ibex]

ah

and vanish is just a 3m cd?

[hexed root]

!macros

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[fast phoenix]

Nice hero track tier helm in delve slot lol

[nimble tartan]

!loot

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1404831391778078741/assa.webp

[maiden sierra]

is the kingsbane fix now live on sims?

[nimble tartan]

guys

3 pieces of tier

[waxen oyster]

nah take the footbomb

for that uncapped aoe

[haughty moth]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[waxen oyster]

[crystal bay]

quick question, are all three specs of rogue bad for raiding atm?

[nimble tartan]

no

they are all good

[waxen oyster]

wtf is "bad"

[lavish wing]

yes

[waxen oyster]

we have atrophic poison

its likely a 1 rogue tier though

[crystal bay]

so we are only brought due to atrophic?

[waxen oyster]

idk time will tell

we simmed low in undermine and you could easily top last 2 bosses.

[nimble tartan]

basically thats true for almost all melee other than frost dk

[waxen oyster]

nah omr the dks went to twitter

[lavish wing]

atm in Liquid raids rogues barely visible 😄

[waxen oyster]

about #gripisnotaraidbuff

Who even plays rogue in liquid as a main

jpc on a spiritual fotm journey

[drifting cloud]

the same guy as last 5 tiers?

[balmy condor]

yes

[mental thistle]

there is any macro to meld potion + stealth ?

[balmy condor]

I hope not

[waxen oyster]

....what would that achieve

[lavish wing]

how is it possible that my fb st build currently sims 124k above ds

[wicked carbon]

Very easy to make one, what's the name of the meld potion ?

[drifting cloud]

because its better without tier, youre welcome

[lavish wing]

i know it is, just didnt expect that much

[wicked carbon]

isn't it better period ?

[marsh fjord]

in ST it is

[mental thistle]

Umbral Essentia

[waxen oyster]

fatebound already simmed higher last season

[quaint spindle]

Cursed idol trinket gonna be good for us after the buff?

[marsh fjord]

no

[mental thistle]

Umbral Essentia

[quaint spindle]

Ty

[marsh fjord]

@balmy condor WHAT THE HELLY KB BUG FIXED??

WOOOHOOO GOOD NEWS

[wicked carbon]

/use Umbral Essentia
/cast Stealth

[waxen oyster]

people really want to gamble the 50/50 that you even get your capstone

without new tierset

[marsh fjord]

what you mean with this

[hard river]

if the potion is anything like the real shadowmeld, a simple stealth macro will not work

[waxen oyster]

You're not guaranteed to get the 7 flips

without the new tier bonuses

[balmy condor]

yeah but its better?

[wicked carbon]

What's special about the real shadowmeld ?

[lavish wing]

https://tenor.com/view/dirty-harry-clint-eastwood-ask-yourself-do-you-feel-lucky-well-do-ya-punk-gif-1612602285223357657

[waxen oyster]

2min cd

that doesnt share pot cd

[wheat hinge]

hi as a rogue what mode do i put brann on in delves?

[hard river]

in keys you can cast Meld into Stealth but not instantly

[waxen oyster]

Meld is basically just a combat drop

[main bridge]

Healer

[waxen oyster]

If anything puts you back into combat before you hit stealth again it wont work

[wicked carbon]

what if you spam the macro ?

[hard river]

not only that but there is some kind of delay

[cursive marsh]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[hard river]

idk it's always been fucky and weird

[waxen oyster]

I mean personally whenever i played a nelf alt

my meld usually works

but i also track combat drop

and enter

remnant of more serious pvp days

when landing a random sap mattered more

[drifting wing]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[lusty kraken]

we are supposed to start the dimensius fight out of stealth?

[waxen oyster]

Are there povs for him out yet.

[lusty kraken]

I am watching max's stream

you start the fight by clicking a portal

[waxen oyster]

does everyone click

or just one person

[lusty kraken]

no idea, I assume everyone has to click

there are 2 portals, you split the groups

[lavish wing]

isnt that the cloak use

[drifting wing]

yo, is there a wa with the audio q for stealth duration?
and does the shiv/vanish timing wa for kingsbane still exist?

[drifting cloud]

you have to get over there, unless you can be first and stealth before you land

but yeah doesnt look pretty

[golden loom]

Fatebound fight

[scenic temple]

is this worth using?

[lusty kraken]

more like a sub fight

[broken lion]

so is there a 2 set bug or should I use it?

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simulate-gif-8199108223823847654

[balmy condor]

it's fixed, and was worth using while bugged

[wicked carbon]

How do we use 1m30 trinkets ? Align with anything ?

[balmy condor]

dm

[broken lion]

so its already worth using 2 set over last myth 4 set

hmm

[waxen oyster]

hoc was a 1.5min trinket

so nothing changes, macro to dm

[waxen oyster]

the stealth spec ironically cares about stealth opener the least

[lusty kraken]

sub hasn't been the stealth spec for ages

[wicked carbon]

Even in M+ ? I remember Whispyr saying DM wasn't too strong in AOE so seems like a waste to throw 30sec CD

[golden loom]

Holy cinema P2

[waxen oyster]

I mean the icon and theme of it

idk sub is kind of

weeb ninja

Whoever designed sub has a naruto fixation.

[balmy condor]

yes of course

[main bridge]

Never gonna be hokage with an attitude like that

[night vessel]

This boss looks sick

[golden loom]

Complete cinema

[waxen oyster]

Where's the part where we realize

[cosmic robin]

will fatebound even be better on raid without lucky coin in the opener than death stalker?

[waxen oyster]

xal is scamaz again

[drifting cloud]

probably not during the fight

[plush isle]

gonna be shit if you can't open in stealth on endboss 😭

[raw marlin]

6 months ban for that is kind of insane though lol

[naive crescent]

he participated in Instant Dollars world 5th gallywix kill on their mages account

not really insane

[golden loom]

Well he account shared a mage for world 5th gally

[gray raven]

i assume this thing is awful with no main stat

[weary stump]

Dirty mages tbqh

[raw marlin]

nah i know what he did

but 6 months is still a lot lol

[night vessel]

That's absolute shit

[weary stump]

Just remember to never trust a mage

[zenith tree]

I didn't want gear this week anyways ig

[raw marlin]

you americans

are making me jealous

[slim hamlet]

I can't remember if there is any downside to just crafting weapon now (week 1 cuz EU), since you can just recraft right?

[raw marlin]

there is a big downside

you wont be able to use dn properly for a week

[half dawn]

am i cooked or is there no tazavesh m0 groups

[raw marlin]

there isnt any

are you eu?

[half dawn]

can you not run it or

yeah

[raw marlin]

m0 taza doesnt exist

do 2 other m0 for 8 dungeons

for vault

[waxen oyster]

taking champ over hero gear is certainly a choice

[half dawn]

ah ok

so gotta run 2x pointless m0s

gotya ty

[raw marlin]

ty

[slim hamlet]

Yea

[raw marlin]

yh

just run eco

its quick

[golden loom]

Well they are the same thing

Cause you arent pumping gilded crests into hero track pieces anyways

[quasi ledge]

What is dn and why cant i use it with a crafted dagger?

[waxen oyster]

Yeah but epeen points

Also spend less crests

[normal mist]

Dimensius fight p1+2 seem like cinema

loving it

[raw marlin]

dn just cant be used while having 2 daggers in your hands

[rocky zodiac]

I hope my computer doesnt implode from too much cinema (and computational load)

[waxen oyster]

How about you hold this

[woven frost]

!tier

damn was worth a try

[raw marlin]

ill hold your dn

[short widget]

i will never see those trinkets again

[night vessel]

Dimensius fight seems really really bad for assa?

[waxen oyster]

Why glaze an m0 sacbrood

[balmy condor]

why

[night vessel]

No stealth opener

[balmy condor]

just press vanish?

[slim hamlet]

also there aint no way that is intentional right?

pull timer to click port

[waxen oyster]

Why do people act like sacbrood is some op trinket

isnt it worse than pacemaker/loomithar

[slim hamlet]

[golden loom]

Im in my phone and that was a jumpscare jesus

[fleet pagoda]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1403486905915408524/Dark_Mode.jpg

[grim jay]

Because they enjoy having balls all over their body

[final star]

Question

[earnest quail]

havent been watching, is dimensius looking fb or ds?

[final star]

do you require stealth on pull to guarantee 7 stacks as fatebound

[normal mist]

probably DS

[final star]

or is it okay without it

😄

[drifting cloud]

yes you are breedable

[earnest quail]

[final star]

ok ryler

[balmy condor]

no

[final star]

I am asking genuine question

okay, that's epic

[drifting cloud]

Im just answering genuinely

[final star]

assa not done on final boss

[final star]

okay fair

[balmy condor]

why can't you just vanish on DS

[rocky zodiac]

But isnt fatebound kinda cope with the amount off adds on dimensius? Probably DS fight and we vanish on pull right

[final star]

mistyped fatebound

[slim hamlet]

I mean we literally havent even seen normal killed yet, why arent we chilling to see for a bit

[final star]

meant fatebound

[split grail]

Just confirming: 2/2 is better than waiting for 4pc?

[normal mist]

yes

[safe bloom]

Does anyone have a WA that plays a sound when you reach say 5+ combo points? I tried to create one but it didnt work

[normal mist]

with the amount of sound polution we already have

one that does that would be so ugh

[frozen iris]

Low keys worth using bleed build?

[normal mist]

bleed in low

mid

high

very high

[waxen oyster]

Do not type if you are not doing high key (4+)

[slim hamlet]

Elitist

[weary stump]

Kyveza ?? Kill required to join this raid

[waxen oyster]

Wait there was a guild that had that

[weary stump]

Actually? Lmao

[slim hamlet]

Not the copy pasta

[nimble tartan]

can i solo the big group soak on the mailroom boss in tazavesh

if so how do

[drifting cloud]

you could back in shadowlands atleast, didnt test this time

[nimble tartan]

what did we do in slands

its phys dam cloak didnt work i learned haha

[drifting cloud]

surely you realize this is a pasta that changes every tier right

[waxen oyster]

Yeah but it looks funny

[onyx pond]

Why is the Dslice sim so low ? Maybe its not updated?

[drifting cloud]

evasion worked iirc

[coral ibex]

can you not cloak it with the first second of it

[gray hazel]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[waxen oyster]

You know what i miss for endless content?

Ghost gaming

aka anvil

[errant jacinth]

hero tier chest or hero dagger

[bold tulip]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[quaint spindle]

Dagger

[gray hazel]

Did bleed builds ST improve at all? or will the FI build still reign king in higher keys?

[drifting cloud]

you definetly do not take a dagger

[normal mist]

bleed everywhere

[royal lantern]

aka same as last tier

[rocky zodiac]

hero tier. Mainhand is crafted first

[gray hazel]

so FI will still pull ahead in higher keys

[spice surge]

Singletarget still awful, but the aoe difference between the builds is way higher

[royal lantern]

it never "Pulled ahead"

[spice surge]

So you just play bleed everywhere

[tight condor]

I wonder if the cleave hits the adds on dimensius p1

Spatter i mean

[nimble tartan]

!loot

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1404831391778078741/assa.webp

[waxen oyster]

streamer played it, must be true

[hexed root]

how much more is fatebound simming for some people today? I'm only getting ~150k increase, might just send deathstalker tonight til the gap gets bigger

[humble verge]

man

last proper gym sesh before 18h of keys tmr

[livid dagger]

Skip legs

[drifting cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-cat-gatito-crazy-insane-gif-4445261359056491120

[humble verge]

im doing chest tri

[humble verge]

me

its also gonna be like

25 degrees outside

from 13 degrees and rain today

[grim jay]

Only 150k he says. People regem 3 times a week for 15k

[grim jay]

Same here

Hitting push rn

[hexed root]

does 15k even register on raidbots as a change lmfao

[humble verge]

my usual chest tri is bench, inc bench, overhead tri press, fly machine, inc bench dumbbels and normal tri press, in no specific order besides bench always being firdt

first

[grim jay]

For me its always incline bench > dips > tricep overhead > tricep pushdown > butterfly > cable lateral raises

And sometimes calves because every 2nd day is calve day

[twin hull]

is wrathstone good? for sin rogue?

[tulip blaze]

is cuastic spatter bugged?

[twin hull]

i just got it from ulduar

[grim jay]

No

[desert jungle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uu4GebXJuXF7BkkSjfYEjd
so is this void trinket any good? Or is it coin week?

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simulate-gif-8199108223823847654

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simulate-gif-8199108223823847654

[twin hull]

ty T_T

[humble verge]

use ur goddamn poisons reeee

[normal mist]

the correct poisons

[grim jay]

Also is there a tier piece in your vault?

[tulip blaze]

o7

[desert jungle]

0 tier

So lucky

[serene mason]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[desert jungle]

The sim is telling me trinket is ok I guess, not sure if it’s worth though

[normal mist]

your other options are champion lily or champ tier right

[desert jungle]

No tier

[humble verge]

i have champ lily already

[desert jungle]

That was changed to tier in raidbots

[normal mist]

what kind of sims you doing

shoulders say GV, head says UPG

weird

[wheat patio]

yo guys

[desert jungle]

Converted it to catalyst from raidbots

[wheat patio]

shud i craft smth or ?

[normal mist]

dagger

[wheat patio]

like rn i shud craft

[normal mist]

dagger probably

[rugged sphinx]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[knotty nebula]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[desert jungle]

Yeah wanted to see the 2 piece champ is worth or not

[normal mist]

also you upgraded the void trinket to 6/6

which is kinda weird

[hexed root]

i assume 2pc is worth it at champ, roughly 800k increase?

[wheat patio]

whats the dagger called btw

[desert jungle]

My sim showed it was not worth

[raw marlin]

in ST, there is no DPS loss to not spam buttons right.. like in the downtime portion when energy is low all bleeds are up, if i just wait a little more to then hit mut or w.e then there is 0 different to dps right? as long as i am hitting CDs are well.. CD

[normal mist]

was your sim using 2 tier pieces?

[desert jungle]

Ran a couple of sims. To see at max piece how they would compare

[topaz dragon]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[desert jungle]

Yes

[normal mist]

i dont see it

also you simmed ST with Bleed build m+ talents

[desert jungle]

I catalyst the shoulders and helm

[normal mist]

it only can use one or another

not both

[desert jungle]

Yeah I don’t raid

[half dawn]

when you have a bleed running out like rupture or CT (on ST) and the next Evis will proc DN, do you go for the proc or do you extend bleed

like is it worse to "waste" that DN builder by extending bleed

[raw marlin]

like here after ive down the DM.. it makes no dif to sit before using my envenom if i dont cap my energy etc? obv only matters if the thing is about to die before i hit the button? or am i dumb?

[desert jungle]

Wait, raidbots doesn’t assume 2 set if you use both?

[normal mist]

in your sim it wasnt

i didnt see a single line where both were together

[desert jungle]

I see why. I had to enable it. Let me try again

[frigid pilot]

what talent do we drop for silence garrote?

[raw marlin]

2x shiv

[frigid pilot]

im tryina make pug life easy

[hexed root]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/rogue/assassination/talent-builds-pve-dps

[wheat patio]

why dagger and not the stabber btw ?

[desert jungle]

Yup champ 2 set would be better. Thanks for noticing that

[raw marlin]

so i know sims are w.e but it looks like fatebound/DS on sin is better than sub anyway

so wtf is every tier list/guide saying to go sub for raid lol

[jaunty sky]

because the sims are obviously closer to reality than the actual fights in the game

[wary light]

Someone help my tired dumbass with the swift KB + CB macro if poss please.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood

Currently not casting CB

(tried putting CB first too, nothin)

[tranquil cobalt]

we run 2pc/2pc?

[jaunty sky]

are u sure it's not casting it and it's not just your WA

[raw marlin]

yh but i feel sin still will be better in actual raid environment?

[jaunty sky]

play sin then

[raw marlin]

i will but im still allowed to ask

[jaunty sky]

for the long answer: sin has trouble target swapping and sub is a bit more flexible with assigning cooldowns to specific mechanics

unless you play fatebound but then you REALLY dont want any adds near you

[errant hawk]

no garrote build is still viable? or bleeds build better in s3 ?

[jaunty sky]

yes and yes

[errant hawk]

thanks goat

[waxen oyster]

No garrote was only really good if you were doing 20s

If someone can reach 20 keys and still not know what damage profile their team needs

[barren igloo]

Do we ever want to Mutilate if we can ambush? Should i not have mutilate on my stealth bar?

[outer kernel]

guys why i using vanish after kingsbane in the opener? :S

[spice surge]

Double jeopardy, in fatebound

[outer kernel]

aaaah okok

[somber sparrow]

worst part of changing talents midraid is getting one of those "you can't change talents while X is on cooldown". Like how about you reset the cooldown when talents are changed since they can only be changed out of combat anyway.

[mortal kayak]

Question on trinkets, if you have a 1.5 min CD trinket instead of 2 min... do you sent it on CD or hold it to link with Death?

[somber sparrow]

if you're fatebound 1.5 minute will sync, but if you're deathstalker, personally i'd save it for the 2 minute cooldown

[waxen oyster]

You put /use 13 in a macro with deathmark

and dont think about it

[mortal kayak]

Perfect TY!

[somber sparrow]

that's what I do! I love not having to think about using my trinket

i feel like i saw whispyr's screen before and he had his trinket keybound (but probably also macro'd). I could be wrong

[waxen oyster]

its not had to have a seperate bind

on the niche scenario a boss dies before your dm

but trinket is up

[grim jay]

Many people that play long enough have separate trinket binds

Double damage on-use was a thing at times for example

Sadly

[waxen oyster]

Yeah i have a macro for both trinket slots

on bars

[grim jay]

Same

[daring glen]

can you get tierset from first vault

[spice surge]

Yes

[oblique slate]

Is there a weakaura that makes it so when I tab out it switches to a target without rupture?

[balmy condor]

no

that would be rotation automation

pretty sure that's against ToS

[brave comet]

is it true that doing a taz key AND dying forfeits your mythic piece hardmode challenege reward?

[marsh fjord]

yes

for the week

only have 1 change for the mythic piece. if you die you can only het hero track loot

[spice surge]

Well he said key

not m0

No idea if thats true

[desert vault]

!fuu

[past bobcat]

you guys doing bleed even in 10s rn?

[marsh fjord]

In key your not getting mythic track loot anyway

best you get is hero track

[spice surge]

Brother read the message again

[marsh fjord]

my brain is cooked bro

i have no idea what he means then

[spice surge]

Bleed everywhere

They were playing bleed on 20s on ptr

[past bobcat]

Damn lets go lmao

[normal mist]

We need a copy pasta for bleed build this season

[spice surge]

He said some people claim that dying in a KEY of taz disqualifies you from getting the mythic track item from m0

[past bobcat]

!fuu

[marsh fjord]

If hes doing a taz key. and dying. no it doenst dc you

[spice surge]

Which obviously it shouldnt

But thats not a guarantee

[marsh fjord]

@balmy condor https://www.wowhead.com/news/more-trinket-hotfixes-manaforge-omega-buffs-and-nerfs-378108?utm_source=discord-webhook

trinket tuning

again

[normal mist]

We'd need some good proof of people doing a key and dying and then going to M0 and actually finishing all of it w/o dying to be sure

[marsh fjord]

They nerfed araz bij 5% main stat

Atenna crit nerf

[spice surge]

Doesnt matter

Still prism+antenna

[marsh fjord]

Or lily 🙂

or do you mean 2 minutes

[balmy condor]

prism gaming

[quasi ledge]

I still don't understand shiv usage after opener. I just save shiv for next KB and use 2x shiv with that KB. Then again 2x with DM + KB right? Or what does dry shiv mean? And if i don't use 2x shiv for second KB. When do I use it then? Please someone explain I wanna learn

[marsh fjord]

In what scenario. ST or aoe?

and what hero talent

[quasi ledge]

ST as FB

[marsh fjord]

as FB. you just shiv before DM. and then when KB is 8 seconds

thats it

nothing else you gotta do

[quasi ledge]

And in the 2 min where DM is on CD? I never use it?

[rocky zodiac]

Netherprism now go-to even on DS?

[marsh fjord]

You use it on the 2 times on the next KB

so 1 minut later

same concept

Shiv - KB

and then shiv when 8 seconds remaining

[quasi ledge]

Yeah thats what I thought i should do. Always 2x shiv with KB

[marsh fjord]

Yes. always

[wintry kiln]

Shiv is 30 seconds only tho no?

[quasi ledge]

Is it different with DS on ST/Cleave?

[wintry kiln]

cd

[mental flicker]

Only until you get your tier set, at which point you use shiv once on kb

[marsh fjord]

And when you get your tier set and KB gets to 45 seconds. you make sure you use shiv for the last 8 seconds

there i corrected myself

[quasi ledge]

Is it different as DS on Cleave? Not M+

[marsh fjord]

What do you mean on cleave? do you mean with bleed build?

or do you mean m+ with the KB build?

[quasi ledge]

I mean as Deathstalker with Caustic Splatter. Should be same right?

The wowhead Cleave build

[marsh fjord]

Yes you run the bleed build.

You use your shivs for your DM window. and after that on cooldown.

and then you hold again for DM

[balmy condor]

do not play cleave

[marsh fjord]

Yeah im a bit confused on what he is saying. does he mean cleave like hes cleaving or the cleave build

lol

[quasi ledge]

The build we play here:

[candid eagle]

anybody else getting an error changing to Fatebound with "unable to learn talent" message?

[quasi ledge]

I call that the Cleave build 😄

[mental flicker]

I’m not getting that message, but I am routinely told I have no talent. By my friends. Just like my mother.

[candid eagle]

It's okay. I believe in you.

[toxic rose]

Seems like we wouldn't play fate bound on last boss right?

With adds in p1 and P2

[mental flicker]

And miss the pad? No way.

[mental flicker]

With fatebound and our tier set, we are a 90 second class. So two shiv on deathmark and one on Kingsbane. With death stalker, we are a two minute class. So two shiv and two shiv.

[quasi ledge]

Yeah I got it now. Thanks! 🙂

[marsh fjord]

no you only 1 shiv on KB because you also dry shiv

[quasi ledge]

WHY IS IT DRY?

[mental flicker]

Right. Yer right

[marsh fjord]

Because you are shiving without cooldowns

[spice surge]

Shiving without kingsbane because you have darkest night and lingering darkness up

[marsh fjord]

there is a section on wowhead about it.

[spice surge]

Its strictly a non-bleed deathstalker thing

[marsh fjord]

thats what she said

[quasi ledge]

Okay im sorry

[marsh fjord]

😄

[mental flicker]

Wouldn’t it be “that’s what he said?”

[amber fossil]

hey guys, what stat should I go after with So'leah's Secret Technique trink? Crit for Fatebound fights and haste for aoe?

https://www.wowhead.com/item=190958/soleahs-secret-technique?bonus=12293:10389:6652:10383:10003:10255&class=4&hero=52&ilvl=691&spec=259

[normal mist]

WAIT I HAVE A GOOD ANSWER

[amber fossil]

uhoh...

[normal mist]

just get something

[mental flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-smile-happy-gif-15656455

Why Whyspr look like this?

[sharp viper]

crit is fun

big number go bigger

more cp

pew pew

[balmy condor]

there

I fix

leave me alone

stop dming me

the fight has been out for less than 3 hours

you fucking degenerates

[vapid terrace]

More trinket adjustments Holy shit... whyyy just leave it for awhile now

[sharp viper]

who could have ever predicted a ritual forge nerf

[red schooner]

I wonder how dimensius is re: the mark management

With the platform swapping nonsense

[marsh fjord]

Hold vanish for it

[wide sand]

just vanish for it

[marsh fjord]

or have a darknest night up before you go

is all you can do really

[sharp viper]

man queen has me traumatized with mark management

[red schooner]

At least VV build still seems to be the play so we have vanish to play around with

[red schooner]

Also court

Fuckin' silken court mythic with the mark, miserable.

[wide gorge]

wait now we want prism over araz?

or was it just sarcasm LOL

[balmy condor]

prism has always been good

[severe meadow]

Rogue top prio for tier in our group

https://tenor.com/view/anthony-adams-rubbing-hands-together-spice-adams-vyd3n-meme-man-behind-tree-meme-gif-2569343513927502347

[willow grotto]

NPCs who instead of dying, come out of combat and nullify the Darkness Night procs, we hate you

[keen spruce]

[sharp viper]

@keen spruceplease bless my kyveza ?? runs, I'm almost falling asleep, I need luck

[keen spruce]

I don't even know what that means

are people transmog farming a S1 boss already?

[mental flicker]

She’s the delve boss

[covert creek]

!wa

[keen spruce]

oh I never did those

I didn't even know how to get to zekvir

the entire season

[mental flicker]

It’s actually a pretty fun fight.

[keen spruce]

I'm lookin at a BM hunter do it rn

looks pretty straight forward

[spice surge]

Having fun in streets? With the not dying part

[keen spruce]

@sharp viper GL i guess

do you want GL for beating it?

or for a loot drop?

[sharp viper]

just defeating the boss

I want the "contract killer" title you get

but I suck

[nimble tartan]

!loot

[keen spruce]

what are you strugglin with

lines or dashes

[red schooner]

The ? difficulty was fun, not tried ?? yet

I also did it as death stalker cos I'm a dumbfuck

[hollow talon]

!cb

!coldblood

[keen spruce]

use alt+z during intermission

to hide UI

[red schooner]

Moroes is napping

[keen spruce]

and put the real one in the same place every time

on your screen

[sharp viper]

her dark massacre, dash thing, new to the delve version

your character has to face it, otherwise you get giga oneshot

pretty bullshit

[keen spruce]

face the first one while you try to scoot to a position where the reset are all kind of in front of you

[mental flicker]

Have you made the anti-aliasing adjustment yet?

[keen spruce]

then just react to the red lines

[red schooner]

I hate that thing. Also the portal thing, I run to a spot, brann just fucking jumps on me

Like, sir, please, fuck off from my spot

[keen spruce]

play void elf and blink to the not bran spot

[sharp viper]

I don't know what you mean

[keen spruce]

oh ye and turn off anti-aliasing

[red schooner]

My rogue was born a troll and he'll die a troll, racial utility be damned

[sharp viper]

please enlighten me

[slate crown]

!GEAR

shit

[keen spruce]

just turn off anti-aliasing

[slate crown]

where's that thing

[keen spruce]

makes the red lines easier to see

[mental flicker]

There is an anti-aliasing setting, it highlights them in bright red before they dash

[sharp viper]

hmm let's see

[brave stump]

#assassination message

[sharp viper]

I already saw the red outline, turned AA off, gonna give it a shot

[brave stump]

Kek

[keen spruce]

when the dashy things are coming out

move out of the middle of the room

so they don't spawn behind / inside bran

makes them easier to see

looks pretty wild though

probably would take a few tries

[mental flicker]

It’s not groundbreaking, just makes it a little bit easier

[keen spruce]

sustain might be tough

[hollow talon]

which talent in fatebound makes us 90s spec

[keen spruce]

watching hunter do it

they have some good tools

[jade hemlock]

Just hyper focus the images during dark massacre, theycome in sets of 2 in effect, so just know where you are turning your camera to next

[sharp viper]

by far the fastest mechanics of a nemesis delve boss

[red schooner]

Its the tier set

4 piece

[keen spruce]

i mean ++ looks like the actual mechanics are harder than the actual mythic boss

[jade hemlock]

Its more of a focus check, and you get to watch bran do his best to screw you over

[sharp viper]

okay red lines on the ground are easier to see now

[mental flicker]

? I did 3 pulls, ?? Still eludes me after maybe 20 or 30

[slate crown]

Thank you.

[keen spruce]

if you can sustain through one full rotation and intermission

[red schooner]

The mythic boss mechanics were just praying that the rest of the team did the right things

[keen spruce]

should be pretty ez

[sharp viper]

it's just faster

[keen spruce]

the puddle drop gives you so much time tho

[sharp viper]

kyveza mythic required coordination, this one is a lot of reaction speed

[keen spruce]

so even if bran hops on your spot you can just walk to the other one

[hollow talon]

ooh forgot i have to be fatebound to see the tier set bonus

[jade hemlock]

youll get used to the pattern

daggers were by far the most annoying thing for me. Puddles are easy and just make sure you have something running during the aoe circle moments

[keen spruce]

feint before clicking intermission clone and suck

probably just feint on cd tbh

[jade hemlock]

I saved all my feints for the circle parts, held evasion for when bran decided to do nothing and watch me bleed out. I always feint+recup for the aoe. Worked well.

[keen spruce]

I'm assuming everything is basically a one shot this early?

the dodgeable stuff i mean

[mental flicker]

That’s been my experience with the second tier

[sharp viper]

yeah elusiveness is great there

CD is useless anyways

[keen spruce]

I believe in u

[quaint spindle]

Vanish before kinsgbane for FB wirh 2p?

[jagged elk]

is there a bug with stealth
something always gets me out after 2-3 secs

[normal mist]

what daggers are you using?

[rocky zodiac]

No. Shiv into DM into KB and you vanish before using the 2nd CB boosted Envenom

[hoary remnant]

!fuu

[normal mist]

If you're using an Int dagger with a special effect, thats it.

[quaint spindle]

Ty

[rocky zodiac]

so you can just vanish after KB if you want to

[weak plover]

we using int daggers? O.O

[jagged elk]

ahh thx

[keen spruce]

no

[haughty flicker]

always have been

smarter=better

[rocky zodiac]

only if you have low IQ and need the int to play properly

[normal mist]

You had one equiped didnt you? hehe

[gleaming crown]

!fuu

[jagged elk]

ye just made the char rdy 😄

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-more-time-gif-4816107

[jagged elk]

hahaha

[brave comet]

rogue is absurd this season

[steady smelt]

2 piece worth over season 2 4 piece?

[oblique slate]

Do you lack in ST with the M+ talents?

like on bosses on such?

[normal mist]

Yes

[iron lynx]

!macro

[sharp viper]

!tea

[normal mist]

yes

[ocean ore]

guys, do we want to craft a main hand this week?

[sharp viper]

RIP moroes (again)

[ocean ore]

even with 2 boss droping myth track mainhands?

[normal mist]

you'll need a dagger

ascension + writhin

[ocean ore]

ok, this is the bis gear for end game right?

1 crafted 1 myth track

[normal mist]

basically yes

[ocean ore]

ok ty very much friend royal

[faint rock]

What time does server open tomorrow morning cest?

[oblique slate]

8? iirc

[faint rock]

8?? Wtf wasn't like 6 am

[normal mist]

its early yeah

[oblique slate]

it is 8am cet

[normal mist]

in 6 hours

[sharp viper]

no information about server maintenance in EU afaics

[subtle oyster]

It says 3am to 4am on the launcher

[keen spruce]

4:00 UTC

[keen spruce]

EU doesn't get server maintenence, They fix all of the stability bugs in NA first

[sharp viper]

true, we at least get wayyyy less maintenance

NA beta testers ❤️

[distant sable]

!macro

[humble verge]

yalla yalla need to do fucking 4 full chars + 1 key on an extra to get heroic piece

[normal mist]

i did that math too LOL

[humble verge]

actually insane

id rather do keys

maybe do delves if i get tired of keys

but prolly not

[honest needle]

WHAT DO WE craft with are first spark ?

weapon again ?

[normal mist]

dagger

[marsh fjord]

recraft your current dagger

[real pike]

FB being stronger is not my ideal but we move

[honest needle]

i can just upgrade my old 1 right ?

[normal mist]

sure

[marsh fjord]

also don't craft a int dagger

[normal mist]

i crafted a new one

because reasons

[red schooner]

IT IS TIME FOR THE STILETTO

[marsh fjord]

haha why

[red schooner]

Let's go

[sharp viper]

oh hell na

I'd rather grind m+

[normal mist]

i had a 665 OH

[honest needle]

do i keep dark moon sigil on the dagger ?

[normal mist]

yes

[marsh fjord]

ahh

[honest needle]

ok ty

[humble verge]

could just do t1s which take like 3 seconds tho but

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[humble verge]

wasted keys imo

probbaly.

[sharp viper]

i dont even have keys on that many alts

[humble verge]

when some champion trinkets could be hella good

[normal mist]

needs to be bountiful btw lets not forget that fucking requirement

[sharp viper]

regardless of t1 or t8

[humble verge]

you dont have 4 keys on all your alts? wtf

smh

[humble verge]

ofc ofc

but you can do them t1

[normal mist]

You guys play alts?

[humble verge]

i have 3 rogues

• i geared an evoker today

to like 677

[drowsy lotus]

How do you update WA's / plater without having to reimport?

[honest needle]

we upgrade it with runed first or carved ?

[humble verge]

use the update client

[red schooner]

I only just finished doing 8 m0s 20 minutes back wtf do you mean alts

[humble verge]

i did 27 delves, and 16? m0s first day

[red schooner]

I'm barely sorted on my main

[humble verge]

im out of a job rn so like

making the most of it

[red schooner]

I spent 4 days drinking in a field this week

[humble verge]

jaha.

[red schooner]

So had to play catchup

[humble verge]

instead of doing delves

smh

SHAKING MY GODDEAMN HEAD MAFAKKA

[red schooner]

Nothing interrupts the annual field drinking trip

[honest needle]

@normal mist i forgot do we upgrade it to 691 or do we used runed or carved

i dont remember this crap

[normal mist]

691 is normal craft with spark

[red schooner]

There was also bands but I was there for the field drinking

[honest needle]

@normal mist so i should used runed

[normal mist]

you dont have runed do you? in theory the BEST choice is to gather 60 gilded and craft max ilvl

but if you can't get 60 first week...

[marsh fjord]

getting 60 gilded tomorrow

it's only 3 delves on level 11 and 4 +7s

not that much

[normal mist]

fair

imagine if we could use map day 1

[worn badger]

i dont see it in pins or wowhead, are we breaking 4pc as soon as we get 2pc t3 ?

[normal mist]

:)))))))))))

[normal mist]

yes

[marsh fjord]

Yeah sadly we cant

you need 17 keys for a map

😄

[red schooner]

Why must you hurt me this way

[hexed canopy]

When do we Break Our old 4p?

[normal mist]

as soon as you have 2pc

[worn badger]

thanks

[normal mist]

right?!

[marsh fjord]

What do i have to do to get tier in my vault tomorrow

im about to sacrifice my girlfriend

[red schooner]

Open vault on an alt first to get the bad luck out of the way

[radiant snow]

so if im sending a sim to my RL am i simming as Deathstalker or Fatebound now?

[marsh fjord]

Depends o nthe fight bro

[radiant snow]

fug me

[jaunty sky]

Dont send him sims anyways wtf

Robot numbers are so useless

[red schooner]

Probs fatebound because you'll be simming patchwerk

[zenith elm]

Is demensius a deathstalker fight ?

[marsh fjord]

yers

[zenith elm]

Bc i feel like DN is gonna be difficult to get

For the add swaps

[marsh fjord]

just vanish

[zenith elm]

Feels like a long time between adds

[marsh fjord]

or dont consume the mark

when you swap

[zenith elm]

There is 2 add swap

Cant vanish for both

[marsh fjord]

Yeah then you hold DN bro

when you swap

[zenith elm]

Its only 30 sec

And its 40 sec flight

[marsh fjord]

Are the addds

on top of each other?

or any adds phase on top of each other?

[zenith elm]

I mean there is an intermission

Where you fly between adds

And all of the flight takes 40 sec

[marsh fjord]

nah i mean are they stacked is my qeustion

[zenith elm]

Yrs

Yes*

[marsh fjord]

yeah then you mujst play DS

[real pike]

How many people are just sending DS and how many are minmaxing the swaps between fights

[zenith elm]

Then idk how you keep mark

[real pike]

When you have DN buff just send finishers at 6- CP if it's about to be intermish

[normal mist]

7

full cps

[real pike]

Huh

[zenith elm]

Dn buff only lasts 30 sec, flight is 35-40

[real pike]

Oh awkward

[normal mist]

vanish gonna go hard

xD

[real pike]

Without a trace bis for the fight

[zenith elm]

Thats why i understand for first one

We vanish

But the second one ?

[marsh fjord]

Go double vanish

[normal mist]

xD

[indigo mulch]

How many % is the fatebound kb fix?

[zenith elm]

LOL

[marsh fjord]

300k DPS ish

[hexed root]

how'd yalls yogg go?

[indigo mulch]

[marsh fjord]

it is

yo ucan ask whispyr

if you dont trust me

but the bug fix is around 300k

[inner swift]

weekly timewalking drops hero?

[indigo mulch]

Nah, if you say so then i'm sure it is.

[real pike]

Or are y'all still deciding

[indigo mulch]

That would put us very high up there as fatebound ;s

[hexed root]

killing the final boss does

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/q8ANwkqXzzPGwc63qTNRhT hell yea, 12k dps increase from ulduar trinket

[normal mist]

killing the last boss of ulduar

[paper quarry]

hi, does it matter what tier piece I prio or just go for biggest upgrade?

[normal mist]

big upgrade

ilvl go boom

[paper quarry]

bet thx

[viscid spear]

Hero track tier legs in Vault

[dark notch]

Is there anything to track with Fatebound or is it just passive? Doesn't seem like it from reading the hero talents through

Adding cold blood seems like the only big thing to pay attention to

[normal mist]

it isnt

macro it to KB

[hexed root]

whats a macro?

!macro

!macros

[normal mist]

probably
/cast Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood

[hexed root]

wt

wth*

!macro

[normal mist]

Moroes sleeping

[hexed root]

seriously

[normal mist]

yes

[frigid dust]

What dungeons do we think sub overtakes sin?

[normal mist]

Why would we think about it

[green flame]

!talents

[normal mist]

www.wowhead.com

[dark notch]

Heard. Thank you!

[dusky vault]

Anyone had the bug where tricks cant be cast on brann, is there any fix?

[high sundial]

!addons

[junior axle]

Before you get 4 set for tier, is it worth playing fatebound rogue for the ST fights?

[dusky vault]

Found the issue, brann dropped off party frames. Was able to tricks once I marked as focus.

[maiden sierra]

look at pins

[cyan surge]

Guess who got a hero cloak and a champion belt from the TW quests

[potent turret]

@raw marlin

[maiden sierra]

obama

[cyan surge]

Thanks Obama

[raw marlin]

hi

[prisma cypress]

which fights are the fatebound fights?

[raw marlin]

the ones you spec into it

[potent turret]

youre a cheater

[raw marlin]

your penis is itchy

[honest needle]

@normal mist if im not gonna get gilded this week should i upgrade my weapon with runed or hold it till i get gilded?

[potent turret]

no wonder you got banned 6 months

[raw marlin]

sorry hopefulx

[potent turret]

no you

[raw marlin]

why wont you get gildeD?

[honest needle]

cause u need 7s my friends are stuggling on 4s

[raw marlin]

so your upgrades dont matter lol

[potent turret]

get new friends

[honest needle]

ok but thats not helping me now so should i use runed for now ?

[raw marlin]

i mean

if youre struggling on 4s

upgrade everything

so you can do 5s

[honest needle]

im not my dps is great lol im asking what i should do persoanlly

upgrade with gilded or use runed for my weapon

its 675 right now

[potent turret]

sim it

[frigid perch]

When I do the opener on Wowhead (Fatebound raid) my garrote falls off during kingsbane window, is this intended?

[honest needle]

@potent turret the sim is gonna say gilded cause its higher ilvl im asking if its a waste if i spend and used runed to do it

[raw marlin]

you can go to 691 for pretty much whatever anyway

going to 691 is yolo send

[potent turret]

ok then go get the 691 weapon from visions

[raw marlin]

^

[honest needle]

dont kno what visions is i didint play for 6 months

would i be wasting anything if i just upgrade my crafted weapon to 691

and wait till i get gilded to upgrade it higher

[potent turret]

well are you a casual or not.

[honest needle]

for now

[rose wind]

do we break old 4 set for 2 set

[potent turret]

then just upgrade whatever you think is best and dont think too long about it or this will happen

[honest needle]

what vision weapon u talking about tho how long does it take to get

[safe bloom]

Is there a good WA just to track when Indiscriminate Carnage?

Everything I've found is just in whole WA packs

[potent turret]

honestly no clue, i did it when it was current

[wide atlas]

hi. what stats and embelishement should i put on my dagger. I'm focused on raide

[safe bloom]

If you do a 5 mask clear of Visions then you can buy a Veteran weapon from the vendor which upgrdes to 691

Even if you did it last season, you can still buy it this season without rerunning it

[potent turret]

(not that its fast to get 5 masks)

[normal mist]

asap

[rose wind]

sweet, thank you

[honest needle]

@safe bloom ya but whats bad if i upgrade my crafted weapon to 691 isnt that free with no runed or gilded just gold ?

[safe bloom]

Nothing is bad, it's a viable option if you want to get weapons fast

[honest needle]

arent most people using crafted weapon ?

[safe bloom]

Are you EU or NA?

[honest needle]

NA

[safe bloom]

Did you clear the M0s today that drop weapons?

[coral ibex]

i got this yesterday

so ive been using it

[chilly marsh]

are sims updated? got a heroic belt should i change?

[honest needle]

i didint get lucky from m0s im just using my 675 dagger from last season

[oblique slate]

goddamn simming sucks without raidbots premium

[safe bloom]

I wouldnt waste gold crafting from 675 to 681 tbh

[worthy rose]

yes if you level it up to 710

[safe bloom]

But if you have gold to spare and you want it, then just do it

[honest needle]

it would b 691

[chilly marsh]

got it ty

[worthy rose]

you can just get a veteran dagger if you want 691

i wouldnt waste gold or shit on it

[safe bloom]

Oh then yeah, craft it if you dont have better and you have gold to spare, just remember you will have to recraft it higher again later when you have crests

[worthy rose]

just spam out some 7's with friends until you can recraft mainhand to mythic level this season

720

[safe bloom]

But even +2 drop Champ gear, I'd do that and if you are a raider, only craft like 1hr before raid if u got unlucky

[honest needle]

@safe bloom what it be of waste fo anything besides gold ? no right

[safe bloom]

No waste at all if you dont spend Runed or Gilded crests, everything below is shit anyway

[worthy rose]

its annoying how even weathered and carved crests are capped

[safe bloom]

You can get 300+ weathered by just going to all the old renown quartermasters and getting your rewards

even above the cap

Carved being capped is dumb bc by the time next week comes anyone who does decent keys will be beyond them anyway

[main bridge]

i use KB with every other deathmark for FB ST? am i interpreting the guide correctly?

[gritty laurel]

that only works if you fotm rerolled to rogue this patch

[weary pebble]

not really, i just made another rogue and did just that

but i didnt play season two so its not like im super high ilvl now, but it helped

70% of my gear or so is crafted 675

[shy pendant]

do we like dungeonslice?

[normal mist]

yes

[tropic jewel]

!shiv

[normal mist]

moroes dead

[main bridge]

undead*

maybe unalive

[tropic jewel]

wasnt there a shiv macro

[normal mist]

yes

but the bot is down

[tropic jewel]

can anyone provide it to me ?

[weary pebble]

NyanMoroes killing spree gamers
APP
— Yesterday at 10:06 PM
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
#showtooltip Shiv
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.
#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[tropic jewel]

ty

[umbral sigil]

Who killed Moroes

[weary pebble]

i saw someone stab him and then just vanish, couldnt tell

[umbral sigil]

Sounds like the work of those dirty mages

[weary pebble]

it wasnt one of us at least

[kindred imp]

oh no, vault offering hero dagger vs hero tier shoulders :/

Ill sim, but what do you think will win?

[umbral sigil]

what days do you raid

[weary pebble]

dagger in the short run

[umbral sigil]

and did you do both TW quests?

[weary pebble]

til you craft with gilded

[umbral sigil]

i have two tier sitting in vault rn T_T

[tropic jewel]

is delve 8 hero ilvl track or champion ?