assassination

[hushed plover]

is the soul-scribe trinket the best for 90 seg trink?

[shy creek]

not a moron, happen sometimes

[neat flame]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/475024539693219850/1403486905915408524/Dark_Mode.jpg

[velvet ridge]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[slate crown]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[mental flicker]

Wait wait … are you doing this in a WA attached to a nameplate, in the HuD … or is this in Plater by chance? ( I’m using a nameplate anchored WA but it seems …. Laggy … compared to Plater + it disappears sometimes)

[balmy condor]

none of the above

it's just my combo point wa

[mental flicker]

Gotcha. A WA. Was hoping to change colors of 5,6,7 in Plater but couldn’t figure that out

[balmy condor]

my plater doesn't have combo points on

[past zephyr]

@balmy condor sorry if ive missed this aswell but in your assas rogue guide i noticed that you have DSM hidden from the buffs on plater but still able to change the nameplate color to purple - how? great guide by the way

[balmy condor]

plater mod

I explain how to change it towards the end, UI stuff is the last couple timestamps

[past zephyr]

legend, ty

[lethal swallow]

@balmy condor I just finished the secondary stat breakdown in your vid, love it lol

Amazing how little of a difference it makes

You're almost better off hitting clear the witnesses in single Target than you are getting your best secondary stat

[sharp lily]

I didn't see anything on the wowhead guide last time I checked but for fatebound is the reason we shiv before DM is to fit in an extra second of KB. As oppsoed to Deathstalker where we shiv after DM is pressed?

[sterile swallow]

I like to think of it as all stats matter equal so nothing is "crap it has X stat"

[lethal swallow]

It's to buff the coins

Some of the coin damage is nature damage

[sharp lily]

Ty was trying to figure out what the interaction was and my tiny peanut brain couldn't donit.

[latent wedge]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[dense cove]

hmmmm my sims are showing me on 5min patchwerk that FB > DS but when i hit a dummy my DS is almost always > FB. strange..

[balmy condor]

is the dummy in execute

[dense cove]

ahhh in fact it is yes

[balmy condor]

that will do it yes

[lethal swallow]

And it'll also go up quite a bit more with two pc

[dense cove]

my man! tyyyyy

is it just because of all the amplifiers for more execute dmg as DS?

ahh fatal intent it must be

[haughty flicker]

fatal intent is indeed not it

fatebound just has a lot of its power tied to coin damage

which doesnt work with zoldyk

[balmy condor]

direct hero talent damage does not work with zold

[haughty flicker]

and deathstalker big envenoms big giga boom boom

[balmy condor]

deathstalker buffs the shit out of envenom

envenom works with zold

[dense cove]

makes sense

[wicked zodiac]

guys Deathstalker or fate to raid?

[proven willow]

fatestalker

[mental flicker]

Probably some of both, depending on fights

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[wicked zodiac]

k

[haughty flicker]

st/very few adds = fatebound

otherwise deathstalker

[wicked zodiac]

ok

[haughty flicker]

probably

[whole mason]

heard rumor KB fixed?

[snow hamlet]

pls

[thin lichen]

Maining Assa this raid tier, but since last raid tier as an alt, I have never been able to successfully use the Shiv macro w/ Thistle Tea. It is input correctly, it just doesn't work for me. Now the Kingsbane + Cold Blood macro doesn't work either in the right spec. I'm clearly doing something wrong, any ideas?

[thin lichen]

Additionally, all of my many macros on all of my other toons work correctly, it's only the Rogue.

[buoyant herald]

What do you mean they don’t work

Like nothing goes off, only the first line goes off etc

[thin lichen]

When i click the Shiv macro with Thistle Tea, it just uses Shiv, but not Thistle Tea.

With the Kingsbane macro, it just uses Kingsbane and not CB.

[buoyant herald]

I believe with thistle tea there’s a super strange error where if you have the thistle tea item in bags or bank it tries to use that instead

Haven’t had issues with KB/CB though

[thin lichen]

I do Have old school Thistle Tea in my bag. Thought it would be cool to have since it was from BC or WotLK

[buoyant herald]

Well unfortunately you’re gonna need to bin that bad boy

[thin lichen]

Haha, dang. Okay, thanks for the help. Wish I asked about this last season.

[buoyant herald]

If it’s tradable you could always send to an alt or something

[thin lichen]

Exactly what I'm trying to do lol. If not, all good.

[balmy condor]

it's not fixed on PTR, and PTR is patch 62493, which is the newest version

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/commit/f2dc62321c86747d72b0c0d22b54a8efc5e4b8d0#diff-dfd3986183bca848b97e90df10f03ba2512e39b5fabb02e1d2dbdd5fd2c2381b

there's also no indication here that it was fixed

[latent wedge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[velvet charm]

first time playing assasin , do you basically just bleed everything ?

[dense cove]

i swear i just was doing the fatebound rotation correctly and getting a lucky coin every single time. and now the past 3 times i haven't gotten one on my opener...i'm so confused

[coral ibex]

its rng without the tier set

always has been

[dense cove]

ahh guess i was just getting lucky the first like 4 times then

cause i was like jesus i swear i am pressing the same buttons lol

[coral ibex]

its a 50/50

[whole mason]

not necessarily 50/50, you can do a weird opener and you get 67% i believe

but it is not recommended

[proven willow]

you either get it or you dont, 50/50

[earnest flume]

curious about the FB coins, if you have like 10+ heads for a big damage buff and then flip a tails, does that damage buff apply to the tails damage and then go way or does it go away before thetails damage happens?

[balmy condor]

it applies before

[hoary remnant]

So we are Cooked? Since it's not on their radar anymore I guess

[balmy condor]

fatebound is fine without the fix

it's really good with the fix

[dense cove]

feels like if i don't get rng for lucky coin in opener my dps feels awful

[sweet plover]

with fatebound, can i just macro coldblood, kingsbane and vanish to one button? I think it should work... for ST of course

[haughty flicker]

once you get 2p it'll be guaranteed

but yeah its a bit cursed before

unless you're just good at gamba

[dense cove]

i may play DS til i get 2pc i guess. we'll just see i'm sure it won't make that much diff in normal/heroic first week anyways lol

[amber fossil]

I saw over 5 mill on a dummy trying the ST rotation, but cant seem to do it again

[whole mason]

I believe there was a bluepost stating they're looking at it?

[haughty flicker]

they said they fixed it

[sharp lily]

How much dps is the fix worth for FB?

[haughty flicker]

and proceeded to not fix it

[balmy condor]

300kish

[haughty flicker]

[sharp lily]

Lorg

[whole mason]

check the pin

[acoustic roost]

no, because for the 2:15 kingsbane it'll use vanish and you want to save it for the 3:00 Deathmark

[sweet plover]

so i can untill i get the 4p

makes sense

[acoustic roost]

sure, but why handicap yourself the muscle memory for 3 or so weeks until you get 4 pc?

[spare lodge]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[whole mason]

1. it depends on if you want to use it on 2.15; 2. if you open regularly you vanish on dm for early stacks I think or equal result

[sweet plover]

nah of course not

[hoary remnant]

No they said they fixed it but it isn't fixed

I mean imo this should be a pin to get more attention

[uncut dragon]

first night of raid tomorrow with old 4piece does it matter much if you're using fatebound or deathstalker on the ST fights?

[hoary remnant]

It's 300k dps which would put us close to 5.8

Like that one bugfix alone

[whole mason]

it is going to be 5.8 if fixed and that's probably a reason they fixed it but delayed its release

[haughty flicker]

...why would they have fixed it weeks ago and not release the fix

[hoary remnant]

That makes 0 sense

[acoustic roost]

no. knowing what you're doing the first night of raid >>>>>>> difference between fb and ds

[hoary remnant]

If they fix it you play fatebound nearly all bosses except heavy add fights

I argue then still fatebound but without the fix gl

[uncut dragon]

I'm going to be below par regardless I'm afraid, I've got a hand injury that needs surgery so I'm stuck with the one button macro

[hoary remnant]

Maybe pin this? Garner more attention. Even make a video? The more attention we get the better and most likely gets fixes

[whole mason]

I would assume they actually didn't get very good amount data on fb sin or ds sub etc.. So I'm not saying this is good but they might want to see some more numbers before the patch after week 1. and again, I'm not saying this is right or they should do this.

[earnest remnant]

id wager they 100% know that it is not fixed

[haughty flicker]

that doesnt make any sense

[whole mason]

ofc they know it is not fixed on live, but..

[balmy condor]

????? what are you talking about lmao

[main bridge]

pin this

[hoary remnant]

Talking about the kingsbane bug

[main bridge]

[haughty flicker]

pin dn

[proven willow]

yes blizzard employees actively looking at the pins

there are class discord admins with contact to blizz and their class doesnt get fixes

[hoary remnant]

They actually do read this Discord but hey

[balmy condor]

yeah blizzard employees make a blue post saying they're going to fix a bug, but some blue haired queer dumbass makes a video and a pinned message in a discord

THATS GONNA DO IT

[haughty flicker]

idk like stealthi said im sure they know it isnt fixed atm

[whole mason]

Like the notorious NS bug in the past, they knew but no room for that etc etc..

[haughty flicker]

we should everyone ping people about it though

pull a dk

[main bridge]

blizz employee when they see Whispyr talking about the bug they didn't fix

[hoary remnant]

Go back to your classic top 10 guild pls. Obviously if it gets more attention the faster it gets fixed. Kinda how this works

[main bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[earnest remnant]

that actually made me chuckle i applaud you

[uncut dragon]

So you're saying we got em, eh whispyr?

[proven willow]

someone loan this guy some IQ hes missing some

[buoyant herald]

You’re not THAT dumb man be kind to yourself 🫶

[haughty flicker]

make pin

lmao get filtered idiot

[hoary remnant]

Go back to classic top 10 guild

[proven willow]

are you mad noone agrees with you or what

[whole mason]

If I were a blizzard employee, The Cats and Dogs would be my goto channel here.

[hoary remnant]

I ain't mad

[proven willow]

thats what a mad person would say

sus

[balmy condor]

blizzard doesn't know!!!!!!!

TELL THEM!!!!!

[main bridge]

scotty doesn't know

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/jordymarajj-jodiprnt-gif-20989916

[proven willow]

i guess according to this guy it whispyrs fault for no bugfix

all u had to do was pin it

smh

[balmy condor]

yeah mb

[haughty flicker]

everything is whispyrs fault normally

[balmy condor]

brb pinning world hunger

[haughty flicker]

[dapper cradle]

haha hey

[uncut dragon]

Whispyr needs to get to coding

[proven willow]

blizz is reading this discord and actively ignoring whispyr

[haughty flicker]

haha hey

[proven willow]

thats crazywork

[dapper cradle]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01HHWRC5P00007DEX7DTA091JF/4x.webp

[hexed root]

anyone with the 714 cloak not banned? lol https://www.wowhead.com/news/reputation-exploits-earn-swift-bans-for-players-ahead-of-season-3-launch-378103

[hexed root]

facts

[twilit wasp]

hi guys, one question its normal that when im out of energy Thistle Tea consumes auto?

[balmy condor]

yes, read the talent

[whole mason]

read tooltip

[solar wyvern]

Whispyr should pin the tooltip and maybe they will fix kb

All roads lead to whispyr..

All roads

[frank vector]

do we macro cold blood to kingsbane?

[twilit wasp]

you play always above 30 energy to avoid that?

[balmy condor]

yes

[balmy condor]

no

[solar wyvern]

Maybe

[solar wyvern]

Perhaps

Boy am i tired man im just shitposting

[twilit wasp]

ok thanks

[amber fossil]

I seem to have energy probs too. I wonder if the auto drink at 30 and the macro are using too much tea too fast?

[earnest remnant]

no

its just the design of the spec

[amber fossil]

or am I missing a pool?

[fallow canopy]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[amber fossil]

ty

[thorn thorn]

Who could that be

[runic hinge]

[waxen oyster]

whos just walking in as deathstalker and laughing if fatebound gets nerfed

[cinder geode]

I haven't caught up with much of rogue tuning wise, how is sin vs outlaw? are they tuned competitively or is one performing better than the other atm

[thorn thorn]

@fallow canopy

[frozen glacier]

has there been a post about what build to play on what bosses in raid?

[mystic osprey]

Do I literally only cast cold blood with Kingsbane?

[golden loom]

yes macro it to KB

[mystic osprey]

45 second cd and 1 minute cd

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-cat-gif-555799605331270828

[golden loom]

well with new tier KB turns into 45 sec aswell

[mystic osprey]

Right on. Ty

[golden loom]

but even before u still only macro it

[fallow canopy]

[swift escarp]

No tier s3?

[regal linden]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[spice sentinel]

is this with 4pc or?

[errant swallow]

I don't think so, it's boss/mechanical based. Fatebound sims higher now in pure ST. You can find the explanation for every boss on wowhead

[spice sentinel]

ty broski

[errant swallow]

Credit goes to @balmy condor

[waxen oyster]

fatebound already simmed higher in pure st in s2

[marsh fjord]

I just saw the trinket tuning from a few hours ago and they didn’t even touch raid trinkets

😂😂😂😂

[rotund oak]

https://tenor.com/joOed0j6SNp.gif

[high glen]

! Sims

[errant swallow]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[high glen]

🙂

[errant swallow]

🙂

[tired thistle]

I assume sims are lying to me says i shouldnt Drop Cyrcies for a 681 which makes me assume its wrong until tomorrow

[amber fossil]

I am so guilty of using PK when not in range of target. Diamond in the rough info 24:50 into your vid guide @balmy condor

[marsh fjord]

You should

Completely normal

That’s what most people did

[tired thistle]

ok THank you

[wise plover]

yo whisp just to confirm fatebound is better on ST already even before tier?

[balmy condor]

yes, sim yourself

[balmy condor]

yw

[wise plover]

tyty

praying KB bug is fixed tommorow

[proven willow]

wont be because whispyr didnt pin it

unlucky

[sonic zinc]

pin says sims and raidbots arent updated, still true or nah

[runic hinge]

Pins would change if info changed

Whispyr gets pinged 80 times a day I’m sure he would take care of it

[rotund oak]

ild kill for a murderinc/whispyr podcast co-lab type of thing

[proven willow]

i retired last year xd

[rotund oak]

[haughty flicker]

@balmy condor 81 times a day i think

[proven willow]

could u imagine making the return but doing wow

[acoustic roost]

Patch came out. Sims are as updated as can be

[haughty flicker]

wtf @buoyant herald no hiding

[buoyant herald]

nah i genuinely feel bad for him lol

[haughty flicker]

yeah but he still gets the ping even if you delete the message

[sonic zinc]

ye just double checking lig

[haughty flicker]

[buoyant herald]

yeah but he'll think it was you now

[rotund oak]

murderinc wow return with a stream?!Where's ur sub button bro

[haughty flicker]

hes gonna cut my balls off

[buoyant herald]

if you're lucky

[proven willow]

idk maybe the deactivate it if you dont stream for over a year

[rotund oak]

dunno dont think so,can always test

for science ofc

surely

[proven willow]

breh dont sub lol

i retired at 31 im all good fam

save for someoen important

[agile locust]

Guys for fatebound ST are we macroing cold blood to kingsbane?

[haughty flicker]

yep

[amber fossil]

So simming dslice for M+ is a thing now?

[balmy condor]

it's been a thing since legion

[haughty flicker]

it was always a thing for rogue

[balmy condor]

we've been simming dslice for nearly a decade

[amber fossil]

recall taking soem heat for using it in the past

[balmy condor]

not on rogue you didn't

[proven willow]

maybe u asked in the war discord

[still steppe]

just wondering whispy how viable is the damage if i just played fated bound with spatter @balmy condor so i dont have to bounce marks around in raid

[balmy condor]

depends on the fight

the more adds you have, the less viable it gets

[still steppe]

i would say every 45s u get like a 4-5 target cleave

[balmy condor]

that's not viable at all

lines up with your cooldowns

deathstalker would be nearly 10% better

[mild copper]

There’s a guide to play around the new tier set somewhere? I was reading the wowhesd guide but I dunno if I missed it

[balmy condor]

do the same thing you were doing before

it doesn't change the rotation

[sharp lily]

There isn't much to play around.

[still steppe]

alright ty whispy

[errant swallow]

Why do I have this ugly outlaw flair

[balmy condor]

cause you picked it from the pins in outlaw

[proven willow]

deserved

[errant swallow]

I changed it!

[proven willow]

check and uncheck it

[errant swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-to-double-check-this-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-i-need-to-check-it-again-i-need-to-review-it-again-gif-22234871

[balmy condor]

you didn't get rid of your outlaw flair

[dark quiver]

should i hold lily for dm in m+ or just send it when its up?

[static glacier]

hold

[haughty flicker]

flairs and roles are for nerds

embrace salmon

[proven willow]

down with the salmon

undecisive L

[runic hinge]

Your neutrality disgusts me

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-zap-brannigan-nuetral-fry-gif-22471731

[proven willow]

🚒

[runic hinge]

Goated episode

[errant swallow]

Weird

[rotund oak]

do u remember episodes like this since idk decades ago?

[amber fossil]

smooth brain here after watching vids, but how are we using vanish with FB?

[rotund oak]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[rotund oak]

!vanish

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[marsh fjord]

you use it with the FB hero talent

to flip your coin twice

[runic hinge]

Yeah I remember being excited for weekly new ones in highschool

[amber fossil]

ty

[marsh fjord]

@amber fossil

This

[rotund oak]

highschool

isnt this like 80s

[haughty flicker]

[night crag]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[runic hinge]

Late 1900’s

[rotund oak]

[spice spire]

Old

[haughty flicker]

nah that was secondhand glorpdispair

i was born in 99 im still a tiny child

[fresh kelp]

unc

[golden loom]

shit I turn 27 in a month

is it joever?

[fresh kelp]

likely

[haughty flicker]

basically dead

[golden loom]

[runic hinge]

After 25 you’re cooked

[haughty flicker]

[proven willow]

do u have good genes

im livin to 120 min

[golden loom]

im in my prime

[neat flame]

I’m sure this has been pointed out before but I enjoy my le epic rogue fantasy of marking a single target for death being the better aoe spec, whereas the coin flipping version is deathly afraid of being around more than a few targets

[zenith elm]

I wanna die young

[haughty flicker]

[zenith elm]

Very stunning

[twilit cargo]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[long sonnet]

What is better: 4 old set pieces or 2 new pieces?

[marsh fjord]

1. sim yourself.
   and 2. go 2/2

The old set is really shit compared to the new one

[rotund oak]

uwu 99

[wise plover]

holy shit whisp dropped a 3h vid

[rotund oak]

yes he did

[wise plover]

cant wait to fall asleep to this sweet vid and learn through osmosis

and increase the average watch time

[haughty flicker]

ive had the video on repeat since it came out

absorbing its power

[rotund oak]

odds are u havent seen more than 10min

[rancid spade]

Is bubbling wax still a thing?

[rotund oak]

no never was

whetstones

all the way

[runic hinge]

Oil might be better now

[marsh fjord]

oil are tiny better atm

but thats so little

[nimble tartan]

WE DID IT

[marsh fjord]

gratz

[haughty flicker]

what a gamer

[runic hinge]

gratz qt

[indigo mulch]

Does anyone know if they ever fixed the kb bug on the fatebound set?

[haughty flicker]

it is currently not fixed on ptr

[indigo mulch]

Ah

[haughty flicker]

which is also the patch we are on

so odds are not high

[indigo mulch]

Cheers. Yeah, i guess they said they fixed it but didn't.

😄

[marsh fjord]

Blizzard is a indi company

they can't fix normal things like that

[turbid sandal]

yeah I don't get it. It doesn't even seem like that hard a bug to fix. Forgotten class rumors intensify!

[rotund oak]

gonna dust her when im back from work

sub trick or sin fb?

[nimble tartan]

sin fb

[haughty flicker]

thoughts on ct for soulbinder

3t every add set then value when the rest are released

maybe they die too fast though

[vestal wren]

nicu, congrats

[earnest remnant]

personally i dont think they live remotely long enough for it to be worth loosing the amount of single target it costs to pick it up

its a spatter and call it a day boss

[haughty flicker]

yeah probably

[regal idol]

is FB still gonna be better than DS in pure single target without 4set or do we wait until 4set to play it?

[haughty flicker]

can sim but fatebound should be ahead in st even before tier yes

[regal idol]

thanks!

[sullen hearth]

hmm

[rich sentinel]

Hello guys just a quick question about rotation on AOE situation: "Big pull example: 13+ mobs", on bleed build is better to try to puts all bleeds on all mobs or just apply 5 rupture for scent and fast enter on caustic splatter + envenom for pump deathstalker's mark?

[rotund oak]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[rotund oak]

wowhead one

[marsh fjord]

well bleeding 13 mobs is atleast 8 globals with swapping. if you want to dot them all. it really depends if they gonna live that long. thats up to you

[rich sentinel]

just asking if its worth spending carnage for bleeds all mobs or just proc scent and use last seconds with master assassin (on high key)

[buoyant herald]

Well I think you want CT up pretty fast too

[rich sentinel]

Because i watching @balmy condor (The assissination Guide for Everything) and the main priority is proc last deathstalker's mark no matter else, so im just in doubt wat to do on this big aoe pack ( example: first pull of floodgate)

[silver bramble]

Hey guys I'm learning Assa and there are two things I'm not fully sure about:

1. I know supercharges give you +3 CP with a talent, e.g. 4 turns into a 7. But can you go beyond the limit, i.e. spend 7 + supercharge to make it 10?

2. And in Deathstalker single/aoe, is it a good idea to aim to use spender at 5-6 points instead of trying to get to 7, to get more procs?

[golden loom]

well finisher rules are always 5+ except if u have darkest night where you have to go 7

otherwise you arent trying to hit 7

[silver bramble]

Yeah okay

[golden loom]

and regarding supercharger, just ignore it and play like normal

[broken lion]

Is it even worth playing assa in raid this tier? Ppl saying the Single Target sucks

[golden loom]

just see supercharger as extra passive damage on finishers and dont think about the combo point variations

[rigid sphinx]

!3h30 assa movie

[earnest remnant]

its the best of the three rogue specs for single target, especially if they fix KB

[broken lion]

so Im just hearing fake news?

[golden loom]

well you maybe heard its bad single target in m+

where yes it has bad pure ST, but if you pull stuff onto boss it giga cranks

[normal kayak]

Boys, i’ve returned. Is it the Year of the Dagger or is it as cheeks as my MM hunter gonna be

[cedar iron]

Mm hunter is more than decent

[normal kayak]

Needs more buffs

Shouldn’t be beaten by warlocks with the amount of utility and survivability they have. I get one pegged but at least give me DAMAGE

[cedar iron]

Buff warlock

[haughty flicker]

people are normally speaking about m+ when they say this yeah

fatebound st in raid should be stronk

[candid badger]

came back to the game 2 weeks ago trying to catch up, for fatebound are we tracking the flips and planning coldblood around it? or just sending coldblood

[dense cedar]

Can't believe that if I press garrotte in the cleave build I get sent to Hell for 4000 years

[dense cedar]

you should have it macro'd to kb

and just using kb on cd

so it stays aligned with DM

[candid badger]

okay so not someting to min max or play around at all just treat it as a 1min cd with kb?

[dense cedar]

once you get 4pc tier

the cd will align

so if you wre to press cold blood late for whatever reason

it'd drift out of cds

[dense cedar]

basically

in your 2m window

the cb will make you flip edge case coins

and im 1 min

it will also with tier

[candid badger]

ah i see, cool thank you i'll just macro it in to KB to make it easy thank you!

[woven slate]

With the fatebound pure ST build do we really go for 5cp envenoms afters kingsbane or always full since we have cold blood?

[lilac oyster]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

5cp

[teal forge]

Do we only use fatebound once we have the new tier set? I’ve seen mixed comments on both

[peak lake]

hmmm

[lilac oyster]

whats the build we are running for m+? dont know if im keen to play bleed xD

[marsh fjord]

No. you plat it without tier already

[marsh fjord]

We run bleed. if you dont want to run bleed. you can run forced induction but i you will do less overall

[lilac oyster]

is this true for higher keys as well? or back to DTB etc?

[marsh fjord]

it also depends on your comp. but people play bleed in very high keys still

18/19s

[lilac oyster]

okay dope ❤️ appreciate the assistance!

[marsh fjord]

lets say you have 2 other DPS who has massive uncapped aoe damage.

you could run the KB build

as example

[lilac oyster]

okay perfect

[vestal wren]

look what they did to my boy

😭

[peak lake]

its nerfing other hero track aswell ?

or only 1/6

i'm not sure to understand the "scaling changed"

[vestal wren]

i don't know

i assume we will see once patch is out

[cedar iron]

Scaling changed overall, 1/6hero beeing an example of how much

[peak lake]

but ye the essence gorger buff is sus

[marsh fjord]

its crazy that they nerf energy drink

but they dont nerf araz

[vestal wren]

lol

they might be good now

[peak lake]

ur loosing 15% max health when using araz, it have to be strongggggz

fkoezfkz

[marsh fjord]

good ragebait

[distant fog]

@vestal wren time to ggoooo

[vestal wren]

idk how good foorbomb is, as you need to run through the orbs

[lilac oyster]

@marsh fjord are we using CT in single target with bleed build?

[marsh fjord]

Yes

[lilac oyster]

dope

[grim jay]

wish you would lose 75%

[nova kelp]

I LOVE how common that quesstion is lol

it's like when warlocks used to use rain of fire in st

[marsh fjord]

That would be fun

[red schooner]

Oh god, we're now doing splits in my guild. WR 1400 btw

[distant fog]

LOL

splits

In 1400

Thats rough buddy

[marsh fjord]

the fuck

[grim jay]

maybe you will be 800 soon

[humble verge]

shaving off that 1000

[distant fog]

True true

[red schooner]

god no i just wanna chill and do rfwl stuff

[distant fog]

Rwl is so boring tho

[marsh fjord]

Im just reading that we can't get a map next week if you are not level 2 with the delver rep or something

[distant fog]

How yall sit on bosses for 1000s of pulls

[red schooner]

i have no aspirations just let me stay in my lane

[nova kelp]

wait

wait

wtf did I just read?

[grim jay]

thats really not how that works

[humble verge]

they hungy

[nova kelp]

you're doing splits?

[red schooner]

ye

[nova kelp]

how many nights do you raid?

[distant fog]

In r1400

[humble verge]

not doing splits in 2025

[distant fog]

Splits useless

Just pug gear

[red schooner]

2 normally. I don't know why we're doing this.

[distant fog]

[humble verge]

false, pugs steal gear

[distant fog]

No

No if youre the only one who can roll on it

[maiden sierra]

Bros guild is cooked

[nova kelp]

I'm hurt by your guilds choice

personally

[distant fog]

Raid 2 days a week and splits

What are they doing splits for

[humble verge]

❗

[distant fog]

Normals ?

Yo wtf

400 mb?

What are they adding

[red schooner]

I'm hurt by this choice.

[distant fog]

Leave guild bro

[nova kelp]

all this math not mathin

[distant fog]

If youre tryna chill

[vestal wren]

trinket tuning i guess ^^

[distant fog]

400 mb of trinket tuning

[red schooner]

I said I wanted to keep my druid unsaved because we do a social run on friday and I got threatened with a bench

[distant fog]

Cant be trueee

ITS NEW CLASSSSSS

[red schooner]

This ain't for me I don't have it in me

[distant fog]

Engage MINERS

[maiden sierra]

My guild is around wr500 and we have never even considered doing splits once...

[distant fog]

IMAGINE BEING BENCHED

ON A R1400 guild

AHAHAHHAAH

[nova kelp]

we're like 800 or something, but like if you suggested we do splits I think half the guild would quite literally instantly give up raiding

[distant fog]

bro find another guild thats disfusting

[grim jay]

[red schooner]

I just didn't want to fuck over the social raid loot wise ;-:

[golden loom]

Every season something crazy happens with your guild, keep up the content

[red schooner]

Which I feel is reasonable.

[distant fog]

@red schooner bro i fuck over everyones loot

[distant fog]

I run 30 mans with no zenith users

[red schooner]

I don't know why we're like this.

[marsh fjord]

I made this in my guild discord.

[distant fog]

Nobody doing delves old man

Its dead content

[marsh fjord]

go read it my lovely rogues

[distant fog]

Just do m10s

And normal heroic raid

All else is useless

[grim jay]

why highest delve possible tho

[red schooner]

I forget what crazy thing happened last season but I think its just drowned out in the noise now.

[nova kelp]

wait, wait, why tho?

[marsh fjord]

More gilded.

[nova kelp]

actually I have 12 I don't care

[grim jay]

eww

[golden loom]

With 2nd and 4th boss dropping the good trinkets I wouldnt mind splits personally

[grim jay]

you cap either way

[distant fog]

Gilded ?

[marsh fjord]

Why what

[distant fog]

Bro

What

[marsh fjord]

Faster cap

[distant fog]

Who cares about faster cap

[humble verge]

so they want us to do t11 bountiful?

[golden loom]

Well the ret pally on coins for one

[distant fog]

Youll be full by the 10th m10 youll spam

[marsh fjord]

you dont have to respond you know that right?

Its just a helpfull message

[distant fog]

You dont gotta do delves either

At all

Its useless content

[nova kelp]

this isn't a TERRIBLE point, especially when it's just hero needed

[red schooner]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I bet the ret pally wants to forget about that as well

[marsh fjord]

And i gave people advise if they do wanted to do delves.

[grim jay]

that would just be stupid

[serene mason]

Yeah okay it looks like deathstalker is dead now

[distant fog]

Fine do tier 8 delves for tier ig

[serene mason]

[distant fog]

But

[nova kelp]

the weirdest thing, it feels like the forge is the "big bad"
but it looks like it's the loom

[distant fog]

Or just run a no zenith raid

Trust me

[balmy condor]

welcome to the party internet explorer

[nova kelp]

the line for the loom is fucking intense

[golden loom]

Delves are sick idk what you are yapping about

[marsh fjord]

The worst thing we can do is trusting you

[golden loom]

Like with the changes they made this season they are even more fun

[marsh fjord]

Mans is saying dont do delves while delves give hero track and tier

what a guy

[nova kelp]

I think like literally every dps spec is after the loom

[golden loom]

Yeah thank god its from 2nd boss tho

So atleast vault eventually has to hit right

[marsh fjord]

i wonder if a normal loom is a upgrade for us already

gotta sim it i geuss

[nova kelp]

I think I'm only battling against 1 person (maybe) for the prism

[red schooner]

But yeah for the first time I'm legit thinking.... do I need to swap raid teams.

[golden loom]

Normal and hero track is the same thing

[hexed frost]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[distant fog]

@red schooner you do bro

If a 2 day 1400 rank guild is doing splits

Its time to pack up

[nova kelp]

this is where you gota bring history into it, like did they MAKE you switch targets before? were unh dks sandbagging the switch to make it look like you're better at it than they are?

if they were on your side y'know, bonus points, maybe it's worth it

[lavish wing]

is there r reason we vanish into mutilate instead of ambush in fatebound rotation?

[marsh fjord]

Ambush doesnt do anything in FB

[distant fog]

Nothjng to spread probably

[golden loom]

The vanish is just for the vanish effect so what you use out of it doesnt matter

[nova kelp]

same button anyway, don't think about it too hard

[marsh fjord]

You just use a vanish for double jepoerday

or how you even spell that

[nova kelp]

like leopard

with a j and a y

[marsh fjord]

a 691 atenna is already better then my mythic pacemaker btw

i just simmed it

fully normal upgraded attena

[nova kelp]

yeah

oh wait

what level is lfr gear?

[haughty flicker]

antenna is giga

meanwhile i simmed the dimensius trinket and it was losing to a 684 pacemaker

even simmed it at 10m to let it giga stack

and it still lost

[distant fog]

@haughty flicker world ender btw

[nova kelp]

I wonder if my crew are doing normal tomorrow too

I hope we are

[golden loom]

Why wouldnt you do normal

[nova kelp]

listen

[haughty flicker]

surely literally everyone is doing normal

[distant fog]

Everyone doing normal

[golden loom]

Champion = hero track.....

[nova kelp]

my bois choose some wild shit sometimes

[distant fog]

Normal will be runnover by entire game

[humble verge]

finally done with this, still continuing

[distant fog]

Literal entire game diff

[nova kelp]

we ain't doing any splits

but like

[haughty flicker]

what did you do to farm them

[nova kelp]

y'know

[humble verge]

gatekeeping

kidding since its u Bel

[haughty flicker]

based

[nova kelp]

fuck

[humble verge]

t11 fungal fully - you have a full view of ALL the portals

[haughty flicker]

gatekeeping flickergates goes hard

[nova kelp]

I think I'm only at like 30 flickerrs

[humble verge]

if u dont see any you just leave the delve

sorry

forgot to gatekeep

[haughty flicker]

huge

[humble verge]

this farm is 0 effort for us

[night cipher]

Lvl 1 underkeep with all gates open story is 5 portals/run

[humble verge]

since we can just dodge everything

[nova kelp]

fyeah you just stealth run everything for the gates

[humble verge]

you can only have 1 portal per afaik

[tight oracle]

Brann be aggroing everything even while stealth

[nova kelp]

especially good if you have a set of gear that has you running at 200% speed

[golden loom]

Outlaw and grapple around

[night cipher]

Achiev is for clicking the gates. It’s 5 in each 100% of the times

[humble verge]

oh yeah you meant 5 spawns like this

[night cipher]

Yep

But Underkeep
Go left and circle round

[humble verge]

where da underkeep

is that in azj kahet

oh it is

[humble verge]

but are there any all-seeing-eye mobs tho

also most of the time if u find kyveza

ure just fighting her solo in fungal

nah underkeep str8 ass

[nova kelp]

I love seeing D'Rude

and the fact that he's a little sandstorm elemental

D-D-D-D-DOOT

[humble verge]

surely

blizzard play licensing for that

[grim jay]

dont need to do that for small references

[humble verge]

depends on the celebrity

[willow mason]

With the new buffs to delve trinkets any trinket got good for us to grab in the reset?

[balmy condor]

not really no

[sharp viper]

a lot of the good ones from s2 got nerfed

[heady oak]

If you look at the old tooltips on the wowhead article you can see why they were scaling insane, max hero track energy drink was going to give like 18000 mastery lol

nvm they changed it but when I looked a few hours ago it was insane

[sharp viper]

I'd take 18k mastery proc

[winged sun]

@balmy condor yo yo whispyr

was wondering, the race sims are identical to live ilvl? since there are changes

[balmy condor]

wdym identical to live ilvl

[sharp viper]

[winged sun]

it was maghar orc like last week

so

at 684

those sims are at s3 ilvl

[balmy condor]

you can see the profile it's using

[maiden sierra]

1 is using patchwerk5 other is using normal patchwerk

[nova kelp]

human supremacy

[distant fog]

Nelf only

[heady oak]

races are cosmetic at this point anyways besides how OP some alliance racials are in keys

[distant fog]

Hes playing for keys

Hes a title holder

[nova kelp]

races SHOULD be cosmetics

[distant fog]

[nova kelp]

the racial skill combos should be selectable at the barber

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/dwarf-warcraft-chad-repost-if-dwarf-chad-gif-21569293

[maiden sierra]

Just sim your character for races

[heady oak]

If blizzard is every strapped for cash let us pair a races cosmetics with any combo of racials -1m nightelves day 1

[sharp viper]

hell yeah, I wish they'd make a change like that

[midnight mist]

@balmy condor what is best race bro

[distant fog]

Nelf op

[nova kelp]

like ACTUALLY your race should just be a straight up cosmetic choice

[distant fog]

Why

[winged sun]

ok

so

[heady oak]

There are a million toys + transmog to make you look like anything

[winged sun]

5 target sim is just completely fucked on bloodmalelt

its not even using spatter

[heady oak]

why should you performance be tied to your appearance

[winged sun]

holy shit

xd

i guess i'll have to do my own race sims then

[wispy orchid]

what we thinkin the % chance of them hotfixing kb tomorrow

[nova kelp]

tell whispyr about it, he loves hearing about this

[distant fog]

Rogue diff

[maiden sierra]

Are you telling me certain races are not more superior to other races?

[winged sun]

its blood mallet

what does he have to do with it

[distant fog]

Spatter time

[balmy condor]

mfw zeross releases that bloodmallet defaults to raid profiles and most TCs don't submit aoe patchwerk profiles cause it's braindead

very cool

[distant fog]

Every .5% matters

[midnight mist]

he can submit aoe profiles

[night vessel]

i badly want to play nelf just for m+ bleed build ): fuck dwarf

[midnight mist]

but anyone can

you could !

[balmy condor]

and I'd veto it

[distant fog]

Why

[midnight mist]

like you would know

[balmy condor]

fuck aoe patchwerk

[distant fog]

Why

[midnight mist]

buddy watching bloodmallet github

[balmy condor]

what are you

[midnight mist]

[balmy condor]

a 3 year old?

[nova kelp]

I thought it was your favourite sim

[maiden sierra]

Hes yellow name

[distant fog]

I dont get why its pointless

[nova kelp]

you made a WHOLE video section on 5 target patchwerk

[maiden sierra]

Hes still developing

[nova kelp]

you MUST love it

[balmy condor]

#assassination message

[heady oak]

I'm going to play bleed build to ~3100 without being nelf I'm just going to yell MY RESTEALTH in disc as soon as mobs are at 10%

[balmy condor]

read around that

there was a convo

go have fun

[winged sun]

too much text i cant read more than 1 line

gg

[balmy condor]

people actually talk to me

[midnight mist]

yo wtf im in that convo

insane

im everywhere

[midnight mist]

ok waht does this means

[distant fog]

So it burns down to you dont want to donit

Ok

[balmy condor]

people notice when builds are submitted and cooked

[distant fog]

@midnight mist hey

[balmy condor]

you're actually a dumbfuck if that's what you got out of that convo

[winged sun]

hes a league player

no wonder

[night vessel]

i'll try that

[distant fog]

It says there are alot of variables between every single sim diff

And you pick thenone thats easiest to get through

[nova kelp]

oh no

[balmy condor]

yeh okay

dumbfuck then

neat

[maiden sierra]

Yellow name

[distant fog]

Ok bro

[midnight mist]

whisp

[distant fog]

[midnight mist]

you are getting ragebaited by the og ragebaiter btw

[winged sun]

ye

[midnight mist]

this guy was here a long time ago

[winged sun]

careful of him

[midnight mist]

he is an older

like i think it was sl/df

or smth

[distant fog]

Sh

[dense laurel]

what assassination version do I play until 4set for m+?

[balmy condor]

!mute @distant fog 14d if zeross and zac can agree on something that's good enough for me

[midnight mist]

[winged sun]

[fresh kelp]

[maiden sierra]

Lmao

[night vessel]

anyone else really enjoying shindiggs videos? i really enjoy watching him - even tho i am eu i can't stand kush

[winged sun]

hes good ye

[balmy condor]

fatebound in raid is still better before tier

[winged sun]

i didnt watch his videos but

hes a good rogue

u can fully trust

[midnight mist]

no i hate them, i only watch that whosparos guy

he makes 3 hours videos but if you have the time

[winged sun]

whosparos guy better

[heady oak]

Sorry if asked before but is 2pc/2pc the way especially if I rerolled this tier and have some low ilvl old tier?

[winged sun]

ngl

if u want some basic quick shit

[balmy condor]

you sim

[winged sun]

just look for a 20 min video or anything

[heady oak]

valid

[winged sun]

if u want deep minmaxes on sin and all the details and u genuinely want to improve, watch whispyr's videos

[dense laurel]

m+, is it bleed build double vanish?

[winged sun]

all his old videos are useful info too

[balmy condor]

yes

[winged sun]

just do whatever u want while listening to whispyr's videos

[golden loom]

we need u to start doing info tiktoks

[heady oak]

I'm always taking double vanish if I'm pugging bleed build I'll tell you that

[golden loom]

so we have short form, 20min and 3 hour alternatives

[winged sun]

i dont do titkok

tiktok

[golden loom]

ok instagram reels

better

[midnight mist]

youtube shorts cuh

[winged sun]

wait why does this say tit cock

wtf

but ye

[golden loom]

I need the tung tung tung sahur rogue build

[burnt juniper]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Use this to cast cold blood with Kingsbane, which is optimal for Fatebound. The order does not matter, as Cold Blood is only consumed on Envenoms.

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/cast Cold Blood
/cast Kingsbane

Assassination uses no other macros aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[midnight mist]

I had to block YouTube shorts from my youtube

[dense cedar]

X, the everything app! Livestreams ofc

[midnight mist]

Too addictive

[winged sun]

youtube shorts bis

no ads

[midnight mist]

i was scrolling like a zoomer

[golden loom]

I spend 2 hours on ig reels say what am I doing and open youtube on my phone and start looking at shorts (which are all way worse and less funny)

[midnight mist]

• they just goon bait me perma

And I'm not gonna get goon baited by youtube

[winged sun]

idk what race to go zac

dwarf or

for raid

idk

[iron carbon]

But you are bozo

[dense cedar]

?

[golden loom]

my entire ig explore is like gooner stuff but once I scroll down one reel its all cat memes

[midnight mist]

idk ask whyspir

[winged sun]

@balmy condor whiich race!

[midnight mist]

?

[dense cedar]

@winged sun go vulpera

[winged sun]

aintnoway

[balmy condor]

heads or tails

[winged sun]

fuck not that again

idk

tails

[midnight mist]

Heads is 10 day ban

[heady oak]

Unironically the BiS race for the farthest dungeon until you have portals

[winged sun]

[balmy condor]

you're going dwarf

[winged sun]

ok

[sharp viper]

draenei and vulpera have tails

[winged sun]

dwarf it is

[dense cedar]

Booo dwarf booo

[midnight mist]

dwarf better for m+

so many dots this season

like ross

imagine arakara

withuot dwarf

kewk

[maiden sierra]

Where edgecase?

[golden loom]

u cant play dwarf on assa though you will run into crit cap issues

and then u have to pick up more hit pieces

[midnight mist]

Tf you yapping about

[fresh kelp]

Don’t you mean the best place to find an in-depth discussion on the nuance of a meadery vs a brewery

[haughty flicker]

50/50

[maiden sierra]

It either lands on edge or it doesnt

[winged sun]

more excuse to loot items in raid

[haughty flicker]

[winged sun]

(my crit is too high i need this haste piece)

[balmy condor]

mead is made from honey, brewery makes beer, which is from grains

but we know it's a meadery

[golden loom]

link this to ur loot council

[balmy condor]

cause it's bees

they're making mead

[heady oak]

MY BEES

[nova kelp]

WHAT IF
you make a brew with an extract from the honey?

[fresh kelp]

[balmy condor]

yeah you see, that's where I'm getting tripped up

cause they always say it's ale

[maiden sierra]

You know, i dont think ive ever had mead

[balmy condor]

or beer

[nova kelp]

maybe they don't make mead or brew
they extract a mead then brew with it

[heady oak]

What if you used bees to pollenate the wheat?

[balmy condor]

well that would just be a brewery

[haughty flicker]

what if you grind up the bees to make the ale

[winged sun]

@midnight mist thoughts on mog??

[nova kelp]

but at least the name makes sense right

coz like

[balmy condor]

now hear me out right

no no

[nova kelp]

it IS cindermead

[balmy condor]

hear me out

[nova kelp]

that they then brew

[balmy condor]

this is where we get deep

it's a meadery

[sharp viper]

this is certainly the right place for that

[nova kelp]

fuck

[balmy condor]

so why is he a brew master

[golden loom]

google ai

[balmy condor]

?????

[dense cedar]

lets see the front

[nova kelp]

fuck

[heady oak]

because he's a monk

[nova kelp]

that actually

[midnight mist]

thats litteraly my mog wdym

[nova kelp]

hang on

wait

like

[haughty flicker]

a brewmaster is just someone who makes drinks

[nova kelp]

it actually should be a cinderMEAD BREWery

[haughty flicker]

so someone who makes mead would be a brewmaster

[nova kelp]

at the very least

[haughty flicker]

i see no issue here

[nova kelp]

b ut it's cinderbrew

[golden loom]

meadmaster

[nova kelp]

meadery

[balmy condor]

you're hearing me but you're not listening

[winged sun]

Goggles inspired by jpc

[fierce sigil]

Which Bosses we might Play Single Target fatebound in mana Forge Omega?

[haughty flicker]

i try not to listen

[dense cedar]

goes hard

[heady oak]

Isn't making mead still a brewing process?

[midnight mist]

I stole the weapons from unfortunate @winged sun , you know the Italian outlaw girl

[winged sun]

oo

[balmy condor]

so then it would be a brewery

[haughty flicker]

brew dn

[nova kelp]

yeah

see

[winged sun]

didnt know there was an outlaw italian girl

[nova kelp]

it all made sense before

[dense cedar]

Cinderbee Beeporium

[nova kelp]

coz in my head it was a "cindermead brewery"

but

it's NOT

it'

s

[nova kelp]

cinderBREW meadery

[haughty flicker]

?

?

[dense cedar]

?? !? !?

!!

[midnight mist]

what really

i know all the outalws

[past marten]

All five of them

[balmy condor]

yeah but the boss is I'pa, it's an ale

it's not a mead or a wine

it's a pale ale

[fierce sigil]

@balmy condor 😊

[midnight mist]

uh, like 3 rather

[balmy condor]

open a guide my guy we're discussing more important things right now

[shrewd night]

@balmy condor 😊

[maiden sierra]

Lmao