#assassination

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distant plinth
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Hahahah

dense flax
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does the dmg make a big difference? And does dark iron have a passive buff similar to the extra crit dmg of dwarf?

balmy condor
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yeah but that's down to tuning, and voting for dungeons specifically because of their trinket drops is braindead as all get out

nova kelp
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Except then you have to feel bad when every fucker in the guild gets a lucky vault while you're a hero level Andy for months

marsh fjord
polar rampart
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aren't we gonna want the ritual forge or whatever from raid prolly?

balmy condor
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depends on how they tune it

distant plinth
marsh fjord
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It wouldn’t take to long to kill that mythic boss tho it’s the 4th boss

nova kelp
# marsh fjord

If they do this I hope they put the black mount and the 4 mop ones on the trader or some shit

marsh fjord
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5/6 weeks in the patch for decently guilds

nova kelp
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That or I will HAVE to take mop classic seriously for a while. And I might just kms

polar rampart
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i'd prefer a variety of new options rather than the same things from s1 and s2

proven willow
rigid flicker
marsh fjord
polar rampart
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resetting us only to have to get the same things again seems kinda tragic

dense flax
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but might be nice in dungeons where you don't need it

proven willow
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we need to stick together

rigid flicker
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Won't matter as much in pugs that pull randomly with no plan.

buoyant herald
proven willow
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rogue gets prio tho

buoyant herald
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like we got prio on HoC?

proven willow
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skill issue idk

buoyant herald
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i lack the negotiation skills to get my RL to prio to me 😢

proven willow
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just perform

buoyant herald
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no, i refuse

proven willow
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negotiate with beautiful logs

buoyant herald
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man i'd be in trouble if trinket prio was on a player skill basis in my guild 😂

balmy condor
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We just do it by biggest gain

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Skill goes into it a little though

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Like if two or three people are close

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And it’s not overwhelmingly better

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Then like yeah the guy who’s fucking up mechanics constantly maybe doesn’t get it

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Trinket doesn’t do as much as it sims for if they’re floor pov for half of prog

uneven plume
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@balmy condor where are trinket sims

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😥

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they nerfed my forge

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im dooming

balmy condor
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Surprise, it’s still forge

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10% is nothing

uneven plume
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not dooming anymore

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ty whyspyr

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you make me feel safe

distant plinth
buoyant herald
proven willow
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SAME based take

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makes you wonder what the point of all the sweat gearing was

buoyant herald
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Many may remember my complaining about being benched for last 3 because of a late joiner who was an officer

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Guess who got our first (and only) mythic HoC?

proven willow
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time to gquit

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sounds like an L guild

buoyant herald
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Nah I was a trial so it’s a bit of a downer but whatever

proven willow
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if officers arent the top players then u gotta dip

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unless it isnt competitive

buoyant herald
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Oh this dude is better than me for sure

proven willow
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ok at least good structure

buoyant herald
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But he didn’t prog the first few bosses because too many rogues

floral thorn
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How do you dodge rik reverbs pillar? Just evasion and look at it?

proven willow
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who is the rogue thats going to maxs stream tomorrow

drifting cloud
floral thorn
buoyant herald
distant plinth
fresh kelp
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its shindig

distant plinth
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Whos shindig

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🤣🤣

buoyant herald
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I think he’s number 2 on the io ladder and max watches his vid on stream so wouldn’t surprise me

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It’s all meme content anyway and bro can yap well enough, I wouldn’t have an issue

buoyant herald
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Crazy he’s actually planned it out this time round haha

visual sun
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If its not whispyr what are we even doing. Its hiya for the pookies or bust

buoyant herald
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Idk hard to argue with that list

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In general

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Whispyr obviously knows more finer details but like. Is that what this list is about?

proven willow
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its for a tier list to bait echo into another loss

buoyant herald
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I think if you’re Max you want people the wider viewer base will recognise

proven willow
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i recognise whispyr as a rogue main

buoyant herald
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You live in the rogue discord lol

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Of course you do

proven willow
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TRUE

nova kelp
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Is he though. He's only been playing since wod...

proven willow
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im tbc wot

nova kelp
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Fuck the worst thing just happened

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My workplace "upgraded" my laptop to windows 11

proven willow
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whyd u wait so long

nova kelp
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Because I didn't want a taskbar that takes up half the screen? Idk

proven willow
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the bottom bar?

kindred oriole
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!sheet

prisma monolithBOT
sick aspen
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!kingsbane

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Is there still a command for the kingsbane tracker weakaura?

spark dirge
floral thorn
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!log

prisma monolithBOT
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Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

runic hinge
# floral thorn !log

Not sure that website is up to date if you just link the log someone can look at it for you

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Maybe even me when I get home

floral thorn
runic hinge
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Not in this channel

hoary remnant
hard river
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i dont think the recent trinket tunings have made it to simc

tight ginkgo
hoary remnant
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otherwise pacemaker would be topping

hoary remnant
hard river
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i missed the commit

tight ginkgo
hoary remnant
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Hey if this is all wrong which I doubt feel free to correct just early sims

tight ginkgo
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Do you think the changes/fixes to FB effect whether or not you want 4p?

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Because that sim still has 2p

hoary remnant
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so might change some things you right

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that is a mistake on my behave

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but their is no real good 90 sec trinket

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the new hoc from the new dungeon eco dom is just trash

tight ginkgo
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Just might be harmful rushing to answers til FB stuff is tested more since the changes. At least best I figure.

hoary remnant
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fatebound perse is in just I was to lazy to add the 4p

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I can do that later

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I bet nothing will change trinket wise

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also fatebound again is a nothing burger

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you dont change any playstyle bind CB to kingsbane and thats it

tight ginkgo
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I'll wait to hear what whispyr and further testing leads to mariothumbsup

hoary remnant
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you will play fatebound after the fixes on pure st

rancid wind
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Is there a reason, or am I misremembering, for Assassination consistently simming pretty low when the profiles are aggregated, even if it ends up performing toward the top in ST?

radiant raven
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55,008 hours.

buoyant herald
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but no "reason" as yet discovered

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one of the tc'ers said the other day it makes them suspect they're missing something but

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might just be an aggregate off assa having good cd timings, execute, and smaller effect from downtime as other specs

night vessel
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My raidlead wants me to play sub next season because of the huge amount of dmg amps next raid. We are a WR ~800 guild. Never played sub before and just can't get the hang of it, would love to play sin next season. How well is it performing as of now? i know, there will be some class tuning until patch but I am generally lost on what to play next season

rancid wind
obtuse robin
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i cant even get simc to use fb 4p , it seems to not care for it

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something seems off

buoyant herald
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My general rule is I play whatever I like until there’s an encounter where I start doing more damage just by pressing n

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ahhh i see youre an outlaw enjoyer

night vessel
buoyant herald
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that makes things a bit more complicated

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realistically tho you wont hit a wall until 4th or 5th boss

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so play whatever and build a backup set

balmy condor
# rancid wind That’s what I mean, I think it happens pretty often historically, but I don’t kn...

No one really knows, koji might have some eldritch ancient knowledge but assa has always simmed low since I before started TCing in ny’alotha and it’s performing exactly on par when doing dummy tests so it’s just kinda ???? The rogue APLs don’t get giga cooked like havoc or something so that’s like a part of it but not to the extent that it should be so historically low. We’ve kinda just accepted it at this point that it just be like that

balmy condor
rancid wind
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It’s just so odd

night vessel
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it was especially hard this season with trinket choices

balmy condor
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It is insanely odd but over the course of like 5 expansions now no one has been able to point to a reason

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And all the abilities are doing correct damage

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Rotation is good

old obsidian
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Assa A+?

balmy condor
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You can hit a dummy and it’s basically spot on

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But then you open sprocket logs or something and it’s overperforming

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It’s very weird but it’s just life idk

balmy condor
prisma monolithBOT
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FOTM Info

  • Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

  • Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

  • PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

buoyant herald
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lol i love this command

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gonna be hitting it a lot over the next day or two

balmy condor
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The moment I saw people posting out of context details screenshots from streamers

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I knew I had to get out ahead of it

rugged fable
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assa seems goodie

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:o

balmy condor
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Case in point

rugged fable
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haha dracthyr_love

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i knew your response :p

proven willow
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disgusting fotm rerollers

quiet oar
tropic rover
nova kelp
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assa seems good

kind flint
rugged fable
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Good seems assa

sonic zinc
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idk theres a cheater in that picture

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sus af

south garnet
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i have a question about thistle tea

i played a while back before tea was a thing and loved sin rouge a while ago i went to play it again and was like where my energy at and realised i needed to drink tea to sustain it and that kinda turned me off the class honestly just didnt feel like it belonged

so my question is do we still need to drink the tea to maintain energy ?

rugged fable
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its 8.30 am and im laughing, seems like a good day, like assa ptr

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

quiet oar
balmy condor
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I’m just gonna start muting people

rugged fable
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hahaha

balmy condor
quiet oar
rugged fable
buoyant herald
golden loom
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you use tea during cds (and if it for some reason autoprocs outside of cds u dont really care, just macro and forget about it)

quiet oar
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For everytime someone says, is Assa Meta/Fotm/STier let the Bot Muteroulette for the Person

south garnet
kind flint
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Id say anytime someone asks fotm/S/meta it you just random number gen a number from 1-1000000000 and thats how many seconds they are timed out for lol

whole mason
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I hate blz does update when I just started to do FBSin, but good buffs, ngl

quiet oar
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You have a chance to get muted for up to 2 Hours i think

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You can participate this by using !mr in #bot-spam

balmy condor
kind flint
proven willow
kind flint
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facts

whole mason
slim copper
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had to make sure I still knew what i was doing

runic hinge
mint valve
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do you crimson tempest in ST on ptr?

buoyant herald
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ah, another shindigg stream enjoyer

mint valve
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hahaha

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beat you to it

subtle tundra
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youre the goat

mint valve
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!fotm

prisma monolithBOT
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FOTM Info

  • Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

  • Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

  • PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

balmy condor
mint valve
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yes sir

balmy condor
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then yes

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otherwise nop

mint valve
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ty

balmy condor
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if you have amp poison, it's envenom city

grim jay
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@balmy condor you forgot to specifically mention spreadsheets in the command. Considering how much pain they caused, definitely worthy of it

storm summit
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How we doing in ptr w the buffs ytd? Will it be sufficient to bring us up to S tier w the frost DKs?

subtle tundra
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whispyr you know why assa sims low and does better in reality?
cause it loses less from downtime

tight ginkgo
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!strawberrycookie

subtle tundra
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yes suck my dick etc etc etc

subtle tundra
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also rogue has a hidden stat where it gets less mechanics

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so it has more uptime on average

grim jay
night crag
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
grim jay
# balmy condor

Dang ive been away for some time and still cant read. Wow definitely scarred me for life

grim jay
subtle tundra
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i dont wanna divulge secrets

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but i do get less mechanics on rogue than on monk

rustic thunder
quiet oar
subtle tundra
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night elf does even better

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but i dont do it

rustic thunder
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how much hopium do I have to inhale in order to believe playing fatebound in m+ would be on par with deathstalker? I hate that mark shit

finite cliff
rustic thunder
subtle tundra
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and even then, you lose the capstone between pulls

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which is just

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yeah

rustic thunder
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deathstalkers mark alone is just aaaaeeehhhhhhh

subtle tundra
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dumbest thing introduced since caustic, which was dumbest thing since original IC

subtle tundra
grim jay
subtle tundra
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i mean class..

subtle tundra
rustic thunder
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Yotei comes out in October bruh plenty of time

crude helm
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How’s assa looking for delves?

subtle tundra
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oh fuck you

crude helm
subtle tundra
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ill have your cock strangled

grim jay
dreamy rover
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just read the development notes, rogue is getting A LOT of love, im impressed

finite cliff
dreamy rover
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does this make our ST decent?

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or meme buff

hearty coral
grim jay
proven willow
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!fotm

prisma monolithBOT
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FOTM Info

  • Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

  • Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

  • PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

runic hinge
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wtf is a meme buff

balmy condor
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like a buff

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but funny

dreamy rover
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that was useless

runic hinge
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??????

balmy condor
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it was like 2% but okay

dreamy rover
red schooner
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At least some trinket tuning finally happened

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So that's a plus

dreamy rover
grim jay
# red schooner So that's a plus

Sounds like a minus because trinkets were shit already and now they have to make them more shit so the new ones can be even shittier

dreamy rover
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It was a decent buff

finite cliff
balmy condor
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people swap talents for that

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but yeh sure

hearty coral
balmy condor
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talent build with bad ST will remain bad ST

dreamy rover
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but taking sin's context into account, it was a meme buff. Too little too late tbh

buoyant herald
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Now you’re slightly less of a liability though 😎

red schooner
hearty coral
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For what renember we had a balance build between aoe and st didn't we?

dreamy rover
dreamy rover
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you're talking about the forced induction one right?

grim jay
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Sometimes it feels like people forget a whole year worth of knowledge just because a new patch is about to drop

finite cliff
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its a good amount better in high keys i was told, tested in like 17 18 keys and it was pretty decent

proven willow
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are you a fotm player if you only play ptr and quit until the next ptr

red schooner
proven willow
grim jay
dreamy rover
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I was under the impression (Whispyr said it at the time) that the forced induction build was underperforming heavily compared to bleed/hybrid and wasnt worth it for low keys (17 and below)

runic hinge
red schooner
finite cliff
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its not that bad in low keys (for ex like 12s) but bleed does better overall for sure

balmy condor
proven willow
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you need to be using the highest overall build in keys

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let other dps ST

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dont X me

dreamy rover
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get xxed

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bud

proven willow
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gaslight the other 2 dps to do their job

balmy condor
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I mean it's kinda true

proven willow
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sin on ptr at least is doin absurd things, will see if it goes live that way

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let us cook

balmy condor
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the biggest overall group dps is the fastest key by definition

dreamy rover
runic hinge
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simply dont zone into rookery

buoyant herald
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Done and done

subtle tundra
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theres no rookery next season

dreamy rover
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IM READING PINS GUYS

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GIVE ME A SEC

proven willow
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any askers

dreamy rover
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fuck yes

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thanks for the video whispor

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about to watch it while drinking a coke

red schooner
grim glacier
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any idea if the no-garrote build will be viable next season with the changes?

grim jay
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What is that sorcery

balmy condor
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everything is exactly the way it is now

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so if it's viable now

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it'll be viable

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and if it isn't, well it probably won't be

grim jay
sleek ember
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Yeah fuck it st, ego on overall

dreamy rover
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i ingested so much pre-workout today i almost had a heart attack

subtle tundra
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you cant link overall if you sacrifice overall to do more st

dreamy rover
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well im happy

subtle tundra
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youre evil

dreamy rover
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just came here to see what the tuning meant for rogues

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but I like that blizzard fixed sub shadow blades stuff, the sin tierset and CB stuff

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they're finally fixing bugs that were here during whole expac

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@balmy condor summarized it really well

buoyant herald
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I mean he made a command called fotm, which is basically confirmation that assa is now fotm and therefore meta

dreamy rover
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By the way, I just finished the video and have 1 question for master assassin whisp

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What happens if they nerf forge trinket hard?

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Will we be playing fatebound in ST?

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Oh

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"tune the trinket and we're in bussiness"

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i think i know what that means

static glacier
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@balmy condor how’s bleed build navigating next patch?

last sequoia
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Hey guys! Are the rogue spec sims out after recent tuning? I checked pins but sadly cannot find it

static glacier
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Sin will sim 600k down from outlaw and do more dmg besad

dreamy rover
last sequoia
dreamy rover
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my sin was simming 2.1 while sub was simming 2.6

static glacier
dreamy rover
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and sin won on basically all fights

static glacier
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Will have to see how the raid plays out

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If it’s like this tier you can play any spec

normal mist
proven willow
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!fotm

prisma monolithBOT
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FOTM Info

  • Fatebound is not playable in any AoE situation, and ESPECIALLY not in Mythic+. Don't bother.

  • Tuning is nowhere near done and realistically won't be until mid-September; unless you enjoy playing rogue there is no point in you rerolling at this time, we don't bring anything impactful (e.g big aoe stops/party buff) to the group

  • PTR sheets and PTR sims are borderline misinformation with how rapidly things are changing and most sims are not currently updated at this time. Again, this will fix itself as we get deeper into the patch and things solidify, but judging a reroll off of PTR tier lists and random sims or seeing one guy pump super hard on a stream is not indicative of anything.

proven willow
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i gotchu im the fotm police

dreamy rover
proven willow
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you didnt type the !

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no wonder he was confused

normal mist
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Damn

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You're all out today

dreamy rover
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sorry

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sorry im sorry

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i did bad stuff my bad

normal mist
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There are usually multiple ! for the same stuff

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Some of them don't really make sense too

dreamy rover
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sorry guys

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i need to rebrand

proven willow
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toxic david

normal mist
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You can get the same command typing ! Bleed/cleave/hybrid/builds(?)

dreamy rover
normal mist
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And the one I don't understand the most is ! Poison. Singular poison

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!poisons would make sense

dreamy rover
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lol

normal mist
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But it's

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!poison

prisma monolithBOT
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You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

  • Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
    Non-Lethals:
  • Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

dreamy rover
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lol

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cmon wisipr

edgy mauve
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why is instant poison even listed as an option

normal mist
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So although it was indeed obvious, the fotm stuff, I needed to make sure xD

dreamy rover
keen spruce
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what was that one that always did the tea command

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!steam

edgy mauve
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

keen spruce
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no no

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there's a phrase you can command

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that contains the letters TEA in one of the words

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I can't remember

normal mist
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I believe it was fixed at some point

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I think it was restealth or something

keen spruce
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that was it

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!restealth

normal mist
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It was eventually changed maybe

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!stealth

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Yeah

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With all the chat I haven't read the fotm info yet

keen spruce
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standard stuff

runic hinge
keen spruce
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dw about tuning

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dw about ptr sims

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fatebound bad in AoE

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same as always

normal mist
runic hinge
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He’s never heard of ptr tuning

normal mist
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Basically "don't mind what streamers do"

keen spruce
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I started smoking because I saw Zerocool do it

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and I thought it would get me IO

runic hinge
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I went bald cause I saw zerocool do it

edgy mauve
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valid reason did u gain IO tho?

red schooner
normal mist
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Haven't heard of zerocool in a minute, is he playing rogue?

keen spruce
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no

keen spruce
red schooner
keen spruce
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wasn't streaming a lot

noble garden
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Whois zerocool

keen spruce
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powerful assas one trick

red schooner
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Quitting wow is easy, I've done it 8 times now garf

keen spruce
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I didn't resub for this whole season

normal mist
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I want to quit too, I'm debating if I'm playing this season or not

keen spruce
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I don't even have the blizzard client installed

normal mist
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I will 99% quit next expansion

dreamy rover
keen spruce
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99% of why i'm still here is Stu, smudgy cat, and pedro chat

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and george

normal mist
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Based reasons

runic hinge
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Oh that reminds me

subtle tundra
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and pooped

red schooner
dreamy rover
runic hinge
dreamy rover
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you guys dont get it

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THIS is the narrative we have to push

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rogue is bad

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trash

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worse class

normal mist
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Saying it won't change anything

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We gotta show it on logs

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We gotta throw knife a bunch in ST

dreamy rover
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dude

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new opener

shy creek
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10x throw knife into rupture

#

i like it

dreamy rover
#

poisoned knife > KB > shiv > shiv > envenom > garrote > rupture > DM ?

red schooner
dreamy rover
#

wbu?

#

im not binding toss ffs

red schooner
sharp viper
jade abyss
edgy mauve
#

Well do they play DTB without atrophic because we list instant as an option or do we list it as an option because someone plays it monkahmm

subtle tundra
#

what did i just read

#

🪤

red schooner
runic hinge
#

It was a niche build in an old season that simmed high but I don’t think it really did more dps

midnight atlas
runic hinge
#

I had a lot of fun last season and I can’t wait for this one

sharp viper
edgy mauve
#

!poison

prisma monolithBOT
#

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

  • Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
    Non-Lethals:
  • Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

runic hinge
dreamy rover
#

you gotta be at LEAST 30+ to enjoy that insanely slow paced gameplay

proven willow
#

40+

static glacier
#

yep, when I was younger it was warlock xd

jade abyss
#

50+

proven willow
#

dont smack me in with them

static glacier
#

now im 30+

proven willow
#

30s is young af

sharp viper
normal mist
#

I'm literally 30 rn

midnight atlas
proven willow
#

im living to 120 min

static glacier
normal mist
#

95 kids assemble

sharp viper
normal mist
#

That's the best meh part!!!

static glacier
#

bro I hear it's like

#

lifechanging

midnight atlas
#

yeah i got a dog but i dont think its the same

sharp viper
#

not havin hair anymore?

runic hinge
static glacier
#

I fully believe it too, you have a dependant to raise and teach

proven willow
#

i still have hair idk

#

good genes

#

better jeans

normal mist
sharp viper
static glacier
proven willow
static glacier
sharp viper
normal mist
#

Either druid balance so the blizzard employees don't ban her

sharp viper
#

megamind looking ass

normal mist
#

Or BM hunter

static glacier
#

I think it should be havoc tbh

#

insane spec for open world shit, super fun

proven willow
#

wait for demon hunters 3rd spec itll be op

static glacier
#

flashy and ez

midnight atlas
normal mist
#

Kpop demon hunter spec

static glacier
proven willow
#

because they arent trying to spoil

#

too bad wow hasnt heard of drip marketing

subtle tundra
#

cool clothing?

#

drip

crimson pond
#

someone know where i can find this WA ?

static glacier
proven willow
#

oh wow i havent heard drip used like that in forever

static glacier
#

its the same evasive answer

#

they're making them

proven willow
#

there was another article i think

#

i heard max read it on stream

static glacier
#

it would make sense to have void dh spec for midnight expac

#

storywise

proven willow
#

he even said its obvious there will be one

static glacier
#

question is will it be ranged or melee

night vessel
#

imagine a mid range glaive throwing dh

static glacier
#

that consume spell seemed to be a cast time ranged nuke but the other spells were dashes or aoe around the boss

proven willow
#

aphelios

static glacier
#

its looking to be a hybrid kinda spec that uses both spells and more direct attacks

buoyant herald
#

Caster DH would be bonkers

sharp viper
bronze pike
#

she loves watching me play wow

#

sometimes i set up her food chair next to me as i game and she loves it

normal mist
#

You are giving me hope

sharp viper
#

@balmy condor what's the used logic of ritual + 2nd on use trinket? use ritual and 14s in go DM+shiv+kb, 2nd trinket at 20s after ritual?

spring moat
#

my 9 year old loves watching m+. especially with alotta shit in the floor i gotta dodge

sharp viper
#

I so hope that trinket gets nerfed

spring moat
#

did ya see.. sacbrood buff?.. like boooring

mild tiger
jade abyss
midnight atlas
normal mist
#

It's so cozy and funny to watch

jade abyss
normal mist
#

I SAW THAT ONE

jade abyss
fresh kelp
#

cinema stuff

normal mist
#

The kid tanking as a bear, in a +10 floodgate, inventing his own route "just trust me"

#

And his dad blows up instantly in a mine

#

Also the kids picking on each other over dps

#

Pure cinema

jade abyss
#

Was there not this 10 aged girl on twitch that play pvp on a relativ good level?

normal mist
#

I'm talking about this channel in specific

#

INSANE as in holy moly what are they doing

subtle tundra
#

putting a 10yo in charge of tanking

#

goddamn

normal mist
#

They have fun, and it's fun to watch

jade abyss
static glacier
#

gonna have some breakfast and put it on

normal mist
#

It's good to have on the background

static glacier
#

bro

#

2:30 in

#

this kid's route is

#

erm

#

cursed

radiant raven
#

it rules

#

I'm gonna use this route

normal mist
#

The kid is enjoying it so much

static glacier
#

frankly he's based

#

gets my seal of approval

gaunt sigil
#

!spreadsheet

prisma monolithBOT
static glacier
lean plover
#

im sorry but is youtube using ai to audio translate videos now?

#

wtf???

balmy condor
#

:)

lean plover
#

hate it

spice surge
subtle tundra
#

miau

subtle kiln
indigo mulch
#

Or rather, when is the deadline? 😄

lean plover
#

today

balmy condor
balmy condor
#

copy edits over the weekend

#

live on monday-ish

bitter trout
#

Does the trinket choices depend on hero talents

red schooner
#

At least there isn't a whole bunch to change. Just imagine being the spriest writer kekdog

subtle kiln
red schooner
#

Every other patch gotta do a full rewrite

balmy condor
#

like 12ish million peaks

#

12-13

subtle kiln
#

sub still going to be a bit higher then. Unless execute area

#

thanks for sharing

balmy condor
#

yeah I mean sub is actually 0dps outside of cds

subtle kiln
#

yea

balmy condor
#

so logically should be higher

#

on a longer fight with execute cds you can peak at like 14ish

static glacier
subtle kiln
#

I’m also looking at it in a vacuum of only giving a shit about boss dmg and no concern for cleave adds

balmy condor
static glacier
balmy condor
#

If I don't gatekeep, it ends up in spreadsheets

#

and if it ends up in spreadsheet people take it out of context

#

fuck all the PTR fiends

bitter trout
subtle kiln
#

Set Izan free!

red schooner
#

And if people take it out of context they post about it in here uglyassdog

balmy condor
#

the sims will be available when they're needed

static glacier
#

Ok, how about a compromise, can you tell us the rotational changes colloquially so we can be prepared for next patch?

balmy condor
#

until then they can fuck off

static glacier
#

Like the important shit

red schooner
subtle kiln
#

WHERES SIMS?!?!?!?

balmy condor
#

sure I guess

#

it's not that much

#

dry shiv is really good, but you want to avoid using shiv on darkest night cause of the 4pc

#

otherwise all normal for deathstalker

royal lantern
static glacier
#

So a slight shiv optimisation timing bc of tier set mark consumption, intuitive

winged sun
#

whoever wants the secret fatebound sauce

#

let me know

winged sun
bitter trout
balmy condor
#

fatebound if/when the 90s trinkets get buffed or forge gets a hammer you just play 90s with vanish on 3min timers

#

otherwise normal

#

logically your shivs for 45s kb would be 2 on deathmark, 1 on kb, 2 on deathmark, rinse repeat

spice surge
#

With forge is it still 2 min

balmy condor
#

otherwise it's all still the same

static glacier
#

Shame they didn’t let tierset make vanish 90s, mighta helped fatebound m+ a bit

balmy condor
spice surge
#

Ic

subtle kiln
#

Assa PvP trinket time. Trashpandascheme

wide gorge
subtle tundra
#

i swear to god it would be so funny

#

pvp trinket

subtle kiln
bitter trout
#

pvp trinket week 1

subtle kiln
#

and ruby knows how to upgrade it now

subtle tundra
balmy condor
bitter trout
thick sigil
#

Lets imagine if fatebound wasnt trash in any multitarget/aoe situation...

How shit would it still be in m+, with 4-set tied to lucky coin that might drop between packs in some dungeons?

subtle tundra
balmy condor
#

there's nothing unintuitive

#

it's all very logical and straight forward rotationally

subtle tundra
balmy condor
#

deathstalker is still deathstalker, all the s2 stuff stays

subtle tundra
#

if its good

balmy condor
#

fatebound is still fatebound, all the s2 stuff stays, you just have to single shiv the off-dm kbs

subtle kiln
balmy condor
#

but it's all very straight forward

subtle kiln
#

Come kill last boss

balmy condor
#

or if it's dropping on like regular ass pulls, your tank sucks

#

being fully out of combat for 15 seconds sounds insanely troll

subtle tundra
#

well its gonna drop

#

100%

thick sigil
#

Well sometimes waiting for patrols etc

subtle tundra
#

thats the nature of m+, you have walking and waiting for patrols and gathering and mana

#

and and and....

thick sigil
#

But ye with the tier might be easy enough to get back again, so might not be an issue

balmy condor
#

yeah but in those situations its big pulls and important mobs that you would've had cds for anyway

subtle tundra
#

10seconds is a very small amount of time

balmy condor
#

like cds can be used

royal lantern
balmy condor
#

it's a silly hypothetical anyway though cause fatebound needs divine intervention to be remotely viable

thick sigil
#

Not that i like fatebound, i just think i hate deathstalker more after 2 seasons...

#

Well one can dream 😂

balmy condor
#

it loses so much damage in aoe it's silly

thick sigil
#

Ye would need alot of changes i recon, tbh would be nice if it was atleast decent on 2-3 targets compared to deathstalker

#

Allow more room for switching stuff in raid atleast

balmy condor
#

like lets say fatebound is 4%ish ahead of deathstalker in single target

#

in just 3 target aoe, it's 9% behind

#

and it gets worse and worse as you add more

royal lantern
#

just a rough %

balmy condor
#

on 8 targets or something it's like 15 or 16% behind

subtle kiln
#

is this factoring in how quickly dev, mm and locks delete said adds? garf_sit

thick sigil
#

Ye, its actually mind-boggling shit design in current wow...

balmy condor
#

lemme go find a deathstalker profile to use

subtle kiln
thick sigil
#

Ye fine in theory, doesnt work in current iteration of the game, and 99% of boss designs etc

#

They keep wanting to spawn tons of other targets for some reason, pure ST is dead

subtle kiln
#

I mean it’s the same. Just people focus on details overall more vs what we used to refer to as ethical dmg

#

Goal posts just move

thick sigil
#

True, if you have others blasting adds etc might be viable, IF its better ST than other classes/specs
Dont think it is tho, but i might be wrong
Loads of passive cleave for mosts, so it just feels out of place

balmy condor
#

depends how you're measuring it

subtle kiln
#

is the cleave actually important / can you xfer enough of it into the boss is what it ultimately breaks down to

balmy condor
#

cause technically until the cold blood fix and shit is in sims

#

and they actually tune trinkets to reasonable levels

#

2min fb is still 1% better

#

so realistically lets call it 6-7%

#

and just ignore that hell

thick sigil
#

They did nerf forge 10% tho, so obviously its useless now 😂

balmy condor
#

yes ofc

#

the trinket that was 30% better than all other trinkets

#

nerfed by 10%

grand trail
#

Fateboud tier ahead ?

#

Or what im reading

balmy condor
#

Ahead of what

grand trail
#

Dn

balmy condor
#

Its been ahead of deathstalker since the start of PTR yes

thick sigil
#

When a 2 min trinket even looks good on a spec like sub, i guess it might be a tiny bit overtuned 😂

grand trail
#

Idk that we play fate in next raid

thick sigil
#

On fractillus maybe 👍

balmy condor
royal lantern
balmy condor
#

Like I have no idea where it’s even SUPPOSED to be

grand trail
#

Isn't the dungeon 90s trinket bad compared to hoc

balmy condor
grand trail
#

It's nice

#

I like prism

#

It's cool design

#

I love not having trinket in opener

golden loom
#

another signet season garf

thick sigil
#

Another thing tho, on reset day when we still have current gear, we're gonna be quiet a bit stronger than current no?
With all the aura buffs we keep getting 😂

grand trail
#

I was hoping for sub season but look kinda grim now

royal lantern
#

brother

#

the last 6 seasons where a sub season lol

grand trail
#

Aurely

shy axle
#

why should it look grim

grand trail
#

Surely

thick sigil
#

Sub good at first, gets nerf, assa gets buff, so back to assa after 1-2 weeks

royal lantern
thick sigil
#

My prediction

radiant raven
grand trail
#

My prediction is since I raid on Thursday... that i open logs hour before raid and play that

royal lantern
golden loom
royal lantern
#

the rogue circle since SL

wooden radish
distant lodge
wooden radish
subtle tundra
thick sigil
royal lantern
maiden sierra
#

Has the new trinket tuning make any 1.5min trinkets look promising for fatebound?

winged sun
#

fatebound says hi

wooden radish
#

dayum

static glacier
wooden radish
#

what talents zeross

winged sun
#

secret talents cooking stuff atm

wooden radish
#

dm me babe

winged sun
#

streaming tho if u wanna watch

wooden radish
#

okies will do

maiden sierra
#

Oh boy cant wait to steal zerros build for my weekly 10s

#

-# side note i dont think ive even bothered once to look at his talent build

thick sigil
subtle tundra
#

@balmy condor i remember you saying something something fb m+ something something, might happen

winged sun
#

all im gonna say

#

fatebound is

#

a little crazy

#

xd

subtle tundra
#

good luck moderating the channel

brazen pine
winged sun
#

im bursting 50m in some packs

wooden radish
#

wtf

wooden radish
#

leave it to zeross to do the real cooking

winged sun
#

but not enough testing thats why im doing that rn

wooden radish
#

the hero we need

balmy condor
subtle tundra
keen mantle
#

Bleed build stonks

balmy condor
#

Does every mother fucker on earth have random ass details screenshots to post

#

Get them out of your system now

brazen pine
#

r o f l

royal lantern
keen mantle
subtle tundra
royal lantern
subtle tundra
#

i gotta go eat

forest nacelle
#

same

static glacier
#

lowkey

#

how hard would it go if they doubled the tier set effects for both hero trees

#

1 min dm, 30s kb HOLY

jade abyss
forest nacelle
#

just had a mage tell me that blastwave is an interrupt. kekdog

#

insisted that he stops the cast bar

subtle tundra
#

its called a stop, not an intrerrupt

forest nacelle
#

i know

grim jay
forest nacelle
#

im just baffled how ppl w/ 3k rating don't know is all.

subtle tundra
forest nacelle
#

in a 12? yeah....

#

you right.

#

i only got 2600 🙁

#

pugged almost 90% of it too

subtle tundra
#

rating doesnt mean anything

#

nobody cares

forest nacelle
#

yeah im learning that.

balmy condor
#

Because I keep getting asked for some reason

  • Yes the latest tuning is live on PTR
  • The only thing missing on PTR currently is the kingsbane bug fix
  • Cold Blood has a duration and the 4% aura buff/tails coin buffs are live and datamined. The Deathstalker tier buffs are live as well with the extra shiv duration and additional effect
  • Guides will update after the weekend, before the patch goes live
subtle tundra
#

except people with high score who are full of themselves, and ego

#

or think they have high score

#

but in actuality play like they park in a special parking place

forest nacelle
#

its just that the point was that he insisted it was correct. and blamed me for messing the key and such.

static glacier
subtle tundra
forest nacelle
#

hot

#

but yeah, end of season blues.

static glacier
#

idk the whole score=self worth thing some of these m+ guys are on

#

is really cursed

orchid pewter
#

Its soloq, it is what it is

forest nacelle
#

mhmm

#

my pals arn't running anything atm so Dx

grim jay
#

(are parking spaces for women internationally known?)

subtle tundra
#

no

#

not a thing

#

and thats stupid

rancid haven
#

any talent builds for ptr to testout?

subtle tundra
#

and, in my mind, an insult to women

grim jay
#

So they dont have to walk as far

subtle tundra
#

??????????????

balmy condor
nova aspen
subtle tundra
#

thats literally the same as handicapped parking spaces

grim jay
#

And for a different reason

forest nacelle
#

alot bigger

rancid haven
subtle tundra
#

well of course

forest nacelle
#

can park a semi sideways in some handicapped places.

grim jay
#

Parking spaces for women are like that so they feel safer not walking alone in dark places

#

Quite as far

jaunty sky
#

or are bigger since they have to get children out of the car as well

subtle tundra
#

men can have children with them aswell.

grim jay
#

But men are men

#

Just gotta deal with it

subtle tundra
#

and the children and just as children with or without women around

#

ik youre sarcastic

jaunty sky
#

wait sorry it's parent-child parking

subtle tundra
#

i would park on women parking spaces though

#

could be cause im an asshole

#

but its more to be against the stupidity of it

grim jay
#

Honestly I dont mind them at all

#

Tho times are dangerous for everyone in the dark

#

So

subtle tundra
#

where are those parking spaces usually located

#

around what

jaunty sky
#

in parking garages

#

for example

subtle tundra
#

dont know what that is

jaunty sky
#

it's like a parking lot but inside

grim jay
#

Underground parking, parking decks and supermarkets

snow hamlet
#

MoD is still buggedgarf_sit

grim jay
snow hamlet
grim jay
#

Close

balmy condor
snow hamlet
#

after cast shiv, it will stop working (seems to be related to ds 4p)

nova aspen
#

🐛

balmy condor
#

oh that bug

#

yeah

#

if you refresh it, it should work again no?

#

not too bad

#

lose a bit of uptime on a 100% uptime effect, its whatever

strange tundra
#

we want 100% uptime sir please fix

nova aspen
#

actually i want more bugs

#

bugs fuel me, as a rogue player

snow hamlet
#

idk i just play ftb in m+ test

nova aspen
#

we've lived off bugs our entire wow career garf

balmy condor
nova aspen
balmy condor
# snow hamlet idk i just play ftb in m+ test

maybe you're the clown that keeps making people flood my dms with "FATEBOUND GOOD NOW?????????????????? KINGSBANE INFINITE DAMAGE WITH BUG FIX?????????? BUFF NOT LIVE?????????????????? TO THE MOOOOOOON????????????????????????????"

#

I'm blaming you

snow hamlet
#

my bad

strange tundra
#

you're no clown buddy

#

you're a jester

#

💪🏿

snow hamlet
strange tundra
snow hamlet
#

nova aspen
#

Alert KINGSBANE INFINITE DAMAGE WITH BUG FIX Alert

#

zeross next clickbait title

balmy condor
#

my antidepressants aren't strong enough

subtle tundra
#

drink

#

drink

#

drink

#

drink

#

drink

#

weekend soon

#

drink

#

drink

#

drink

#

drink

#

drink

#

drink

#

drink

#

drink

#

drink

snow hamlet
#

=========================stop line==========================================

subtle tundra
#

whispyr i think you should consume alcohol

balmy condor
#

maybe I just crack open a crisp can of compressed air

#

huff that sweet sweet nitrogen

subtle tundra
#

fuckkkkkkkkkkkk

#

buy 20 cans of whipped cream

#

go sky high

marble sonnet
#

Not gona cut it

subtle tundra
#

ill have whisky tonight whisper

#

whisky/whisper

#

get it

#

oh you can get it

balmy condor
#

a whisker

#

meow MEOW MEOW

subtle tundra
#

MIAUUUUUU

pliant remnant
#

?

#

sirs

normal mist
#

Meow?

warm vortex
#

Whispyr is just a bunch of cats in a trench coat

royal lantern
#

a cat is just a bunch of Whispyrs in a trench coat