#assassination

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raw marlin
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rogue is somehwat decent, sin and sub use the same right? and both use daggers

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outlaw needs dif stats and dif weapons

hot jay
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Basically in the same boat as hunter

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Survival and outlaw are the odd ones out because you have to commit to a different weapon to run them

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And with outlaw, completely different stats on top

royal lantern
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wdym, outlaw uses 1hand weapons, which fury and prot warrior can use aswell

raw marlin
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realitically it doesnt affect it too muhc, start of season is whatever and by the time you start swapping around you can grind out gear

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its just the crafts

royal lantern
hot jay
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You would realistically never use 1h weapons on fury

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It's usually trolling

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Sadly

royal lantern
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it was a joke that outlaw is a warrior spec

raw marlin
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I want to use outlaw for the new sword transmogs in the traders post ha

lusty narwhal
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Single minded fury coming back would be so sick

hot jay
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Ah KEKW

raw marlin
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its super fun

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i remember grinding with warrior in uldir or uldamum (first raid of BFA)

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and always enjoyed my time, even got a rank 1 parse as a nooby

warm vortex
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Outlaw shoudl be able to use 2 two handers

royal lantern
hot jay
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Two-handed gun

royal lantern
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its just a talent that is literally a dmg down

hot jay
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BIG killing spree

royal lantern
raw marlin
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I wish we could transmog daggers into 1 handed/maces etc

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i wanna slap some fools with beer bottles and fish

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as a sin

warm vortex
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Dagger fish when

lusty narwhal
raw marlin
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@marsh fjord whats 9+9?

marsh fjord
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20

raw marlin
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nerf hunters

quiet oriole
restive falcon
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why is wow dead, still 30min later perma retrieving list

snow hamlet
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NA?

restive falcon
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yea

snow hamlet
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same

restive falcon
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MoP > Retail ICANT

snow hamlet
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ye

raw marlin
# quiet oriole Is that pre nerf?

no idea.. have to ask whispyr as it he from his recent video, scared to ping him though but I do wonder (when was the mythic testing??)

raw marlin
restive falcon
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i was going to but im playing marvel rivals grind rn, just wanna login to check my vault but perma character list

raw marlin
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i wish i got into marvel but it sucks lol

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may take up league

lucid silo
raw marlin
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@marsh fjord lets ping this guy ping(u)

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Diamond dogs assemble!

marsh fjord
sharp turtle
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do you guys think well ever get our downtime fixed

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i hate when theres nothing to press, it feels horrible

maiden sierra
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No

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Rogue dev is racist

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Next question

pliant remnant
maiden sierra
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My source:
1 button rotation assist.
How on god slice and dice and throwing knife got inn there is beyond me.

sharp turtle
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blizz just has no idea how rogue works

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we need one of the shadows to step up and get a job there

golden loom
sharp turtle
golden loom
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yeah why not

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think its more of a design flaw for other specs that just overcap resources perma

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like why even have them at that point

crisp coral
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I just realized that combo points just increase rupture duration, not DPS .. does this mean it is ok to spread rupture with 2-3 combos on aoe on short live enemies?

golden loom
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but if ur doing like a M+ aoe opener you just build like normal

burnt star
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Even if they die

crisp coral
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I mean the damage per second it does. if you have 4-5 enemies that will live for 20-30 second, isnt better to just apply a 2-3 combo rupture to each one?

burnt star
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If u have 4-5 ennemie. U are probly in a key. And ur playing probly s.d / i.c. / b.s wich mean u will want full cp rupture anyway

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U will spread rupture to 3 ennemie. Get refund c.p and send again

normal mist
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Full CP rupture kinda questionable

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There's no need to force 7cp to spread ruptures

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Also, if you're not minmaxing the IC, you'll want at least 5cp ruptures for DSM

burnt star
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Ok.. wasnt trying to be litteraly accurate. Full was meant as when we normaly send

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And not as 3 cp just to spread

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My bad for the confusion

normal mist
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The only confused part was the full cp

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That he could have taken with literal value

burnt star
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Ya. I get that 😅 my bad

normal mist
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Thanks for explaining tho homie

hearty seal
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okay actual question that probably shouldn't take sims and final tuning to answer - since 11.2 apparently has the cloak slot permanently taken, and raid boots are announced as boosting cloak stats, what's the best embellishment craft slot? I assume bracers since the belt is going to stay DISC for now

acoustic roost
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For the most part it’s always been bracer + offhand for assa

normal mist
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Probably weapon + bracers

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Yeah

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Depends if there's any tuning to them

golden loom
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delve belt should be pretty replaceable

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but also as per usual u just craft to fill out low ilvl slot garf

iron carbon
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Mh weapon for ilvl increase until you get MM dagger and prolly bracer yh

raw marlin
raw marlin
spice surge
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Since the boots have a lot of vers on them a lot of specs aint even using them

runic hinge
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sucks for now, until they juice it

marsh fjord
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@normal mist 1v1 me

raw marlin
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ok wtf do i need to learn the spec then

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haha.. off to OBR!

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am i being dumb... we never need to hit slice and dice right?

spice surge
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Correct

raw marlin
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so why

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even mention it

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in the guide

sharp turtle
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blizz honestly has no idea how rogue works, im sure even our dev doesnt play the game (if we even have one)

spice surge
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Its applied through envenom, but possibly just a leftover from back when we had to press it if i had to guess shrugeg

ivory kraken
raw marlin
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i mean it doesnt say spam ADADADADADADA either

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but you still have to for max dps

ivory kraken
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I'm more of a qeqe enjoyer myself but I can see it

raw marlin
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q and e

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are abilities for me

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my mate uses q and e to strafe

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i forever mock him

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is there a breakdown of deathstalker/darkest night anywhere.. i get how to play it but im still confused to what it even fucking does

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just adds some random more damage and i apply it when it goes off lol

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like why isnt the mark just a 'buff' to us

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why do we need to apply it

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#fixthegame

west crown
hollow talon
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which bosses do we use eye of kezan for, just got it in vault

west crown
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Any boss lasting longer than 5 minutes. Not sure if that breakpoint changed with gear to longer but that’s what it was a few months ago

raw marlin
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@marsh fjord muahahaha

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I am cool now

coral ibex
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congrats on buying a sub to a dead patreon

red schooner
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But you get a cool colour in discord

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So

raw marlin
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dont @ me

coral ibex
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wow

marsh fjord
raw marlin
marsh fjord
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The bandana is coo ltho

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hold on

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time to to sub

raw marlin
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the monk discord is even cooler though... we should have a gradient

marsh fjord
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show me

raw marlin
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look at the sexy shit

marsh fjord
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oh yeah that kinda looks cool

normal mist
raw marlin
marsh fjord
normal mist
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YEAH BUT WALLS DONT REALLY FIGHT BACK

marsh fjord
raw marlin
marsh fjord
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they hurt

normal mist
raw marlin
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@normal mist wanna support me in league?

marsh fjord
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please say no

normal mist
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My last 20+ games have been aram, i dont even know if i can play normal matchmaking well enough

raw marlin
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ok thats it

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@normal mist @marsh fjord lets go league

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I am a Vi Jungle main

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Or the wolf dude and nom nom

normal mist
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warwick nomnom

raw marlin
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hmm nomnom

marsh fjord
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Can't busy leveling my ret

royal lantern
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idk whats more disgusting

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the ret Paladin or league

marsh fjord
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Prob the paladin

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i feel disgusted

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But im so bored

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and i didnt had a paladin yet

tidal sorrel
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fellas is fatebound 4pc looking promising for 11.2 finally or nah?

marsh fjord
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No

normal mist
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worse every day

coral ibex
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no

marsh fjord
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We are fated to play DS

normal mist
crisp coral
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does Envenom has priority over rupture if slice and dice is not up?

raw marlin
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snd will always be up

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i dont think ive ever seen it not up

crisp coral
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but on opener, first finisher

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should be envenom for SnD or Rupture?

coral ibex
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rupture

raw marlin
normal mist
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SnD isn't important

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Just follow the guide opener as Loop just shared

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The guide in question in the wowhead one

crisp coral
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got it thanks

normal mist
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Most of your questions are answered here:

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!guides

normal mist
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Whatever question you have that is not explain there, please return here and ask away

raw marlin
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@marsh fjord Yo, sneakin' through the shadows, call me Sin Pingu,
Bleeds stackin' high like the crits I bring you.
Combo points flyin’ like I'm workin' in twos,
But Pingu vanish quick — bro, where’d he slink to?

Math brain on fire, yeah, they call him Numbers,
Spreadsheets out while the whole raid slumbers.
Used to go by Darian, sneaky barbarian,
Parse so clean you'd think he's librarian.

marsh fjord
raw marlin
raw marlin
marsh fjord
runic hinge
sand aurora
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whats the best raiding spec rn?

royal lantern
spice surge
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Theyre all kinda the same ngl

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In general, some bosses favour one over the other etc

runic hinge
raw marlin
quiet oriole
storm zinc
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
storm zinc
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How much haste do we need? Is there a soft cap?

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I asking to see if I should drop my haste from 19% into my other secondaries

balmy condor
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whatever sims higher

storm zinc
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sims point to my hunter

balmy condor
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well you don't compare classes using sims

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so that doesn't make much sense

normal mist
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That was indeed a weird way to sim

stiff fern
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In bleed build opener, do you spend some extra time getting CT up before DM, or just go right into it after rupture?

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Er, after envenom

balmy condor
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you should get CT up, yes

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idk where you're envenoming

stiff fern
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Just following the wowhead opener!

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Doesn't have CT, why I wanted to check rq

balmy condor
weary stump
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Get it, sims

balmy condor
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oh I don't have a bleed build opener

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I see

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yeah you don't have kingsbane

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so you don't need to envenom before deathmark

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there's no point in doing that

stiff fern
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Gotcha

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I'll just CT there instead then DM then

balmy condor
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yeah

stiff fern
maiden sierra
weary stump
grave osprey
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Rogues buffs soon! 🎉

hoary remnant
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and alle 3 specs need help

grave osprey
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In raid?

hoary remnant
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yeah

grave osprey
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All 3 are decent in m+, sub is pumping in keys

hoary remnant
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sub isnt pumping its decent but nothing compared to top performers

marsh ferry
clever sparrow
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does the waist buffs work outside delve?

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or its just a delve buff? havent played 11.1.7

balmy condor
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yes

marsh fjord
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but the buff you get from the belt works everywhere

clever sparrow
uneven plume
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Prism + void delve trinket crazy for sub. I don’t think that void trinket is supposed to give 30k mastery though

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If it is, might get tuned down because holy shit

hallow glade
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i think i got like 15% uptime last time i tried it out iirc

raw marlin
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btw.. im only 665 and these are 680+ .. this is why it is so hard to do anything this late into a season lol

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is there a macro for shiv that will mean i can spam it but it wont use the 2nd charge unless 8 seconds or <1 second of previous shiv?

iron carbon
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!shiv

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

iron carbon
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There's a gcd for shiv so I don't get how you can waste it

raw marlin
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overlap it before it fully expires

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either i end up missing gcd or w.e with no shiv

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or i do it 2 early

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what does that macro even do?

iron carbon
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"With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:"

raw marlin
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any tiny lag = shivs go byebye

raw marlin
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or only at first application?

iron carbon
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Just press second shiv when 1 sec remaining on it

nova kelp
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you just use it like any button, it just stops you from doing 2 in a row

iron carbon
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There's no cast sequence preventing you using shiv before 8 sec

nova kelp
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it does though?

raw marlin
iron carbon
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Cuz cst sequence are reset

raw marlin
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and it let me spam shivs

iron carbon
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With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of TEA if youre spamming:

raw marlin
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i dont even macro shiv and tea

nova kelp
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I mean... if youre spamming a button for MORE than 5 seconds you deserve to burn the second charge idk

raw marlin
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5 seconds? its instant

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look

iron carbon
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Am I getting trolled?

raw marlin
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its meant to prevent this or nah?

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am i being trolled?

iron carbon
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No

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Read

nova kelp
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read the actual reset

raw marlin
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yh its for tea

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but i asked for shiv lol

iron carbon
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And i answered it was not existing

nova kelp
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just make one for shiv itself?

raw marlin
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ok ill just try to not vibrate my mouse so hard

iron carbon
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Cuz cast sequence does reset

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If you spam

runic hinge
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It’s to make you not spam tea. If you shiv twice in a row that’s like you just spamming for an entire gcd

iron carbon
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Maybe not with this : /castsequence reset=8 shiv, null

runic hinge
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Which tbh why

golden loom
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Errrrm what the helly

slate crown
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errm what the sigma

nova kelp
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I wouldn't like

iron carbon
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Just stop drinking monster

raw marlin
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so this macro

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uses shiv + tea but doesnt let you spam tea

runic hinge
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Right

nova kelp
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yes

iron carbon
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Correct

raw marlin
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my muscle memory of hitting tea is making me use 2 teas fml lol

runic hinge
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Macroing tea is ideal

iron carbon
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Don't macro then

golden loom
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Remove tea from bar 🙂

iron carbon
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Play like you want

nova kelp
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yeah remove tea from your shit lol

raw marlin
nova kelp
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or don't macro tea at all and have it on the bar

runic hinge
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I have tea on the bar but I don’t press it anymore

iron carbon
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I didn't macro in hybrid

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I did on bleeds and raid build

nova kelp
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since they removed our ability to actually tea when we want to I just macroed it and forgot it existed

runic hinge
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They also removed teas impact on anything by nerfing the fuck outta kingsbane

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Now the energy outside of cds is worth

nova kelp
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Also true enough I guess

marsh fjord
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@raw marlin you noob learn to read a macro

midnight mist
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No

pliant remnant
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No

iron carbon
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No

royal lantern
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yes

nova kelp
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noes

normal mist
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Its funny how Whispyr does a youtube video talking about the raid

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and this are the comments:

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Happy birthday Mister Whispyr

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(i might be late for that)

nova kelp
humble verge
pure moth
raw marlin
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all good

marsh fjord
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No volume

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No macro knowledge

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this guy is really in the gutter

runic hinge
potent turret
marsh fjord
potent turret
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<3

marsh fjord
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Fuck you for fucking with me

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and fuck @raw marlin

raw marlin
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@royal lantern he is one of you

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@marsh fjord ^

marsh fjord
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Thats me

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but the toilet is loop

balmy condor
marsh fjord
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i got a question

raw marlin
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whispyr

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is it your birthday

balmy condor
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can y'all spam your weird inside joke gifs in dms or some shit

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what the fuck is happening in here

marsh fjord
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i got a qeustion

raw marlin
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we are socialisationing

potent turret
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last time I was here they said it was fine???

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why u so angy

marsh fjord
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hes always angry

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have you seen his video's

potent turret
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hell naw

balmy condor
raw marlin
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well.. i slept yesterday so i couldnt wish your happy birthday so Alles Gute zum Geburtstag

balmy condor
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danke

raw marlin
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when housing comes out, do we only get personal housing + guild housing or can we have like community housing?

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I want Rogue class halls

marsh fjord
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we can be neighbours bro

raw marlin
potent turret
raw marlin
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like my ui ?

marsh fjord
raw marlin
potent turret
marsh fjord
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blud has a weakaura for a trinket that goes off automatically kekman

raw marlin
marsh fjord
raw marlin
potent turret
marsh fjord
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no wtf?

normal mist
marsh fjord
raw marlin
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@normal mist im doing it

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Im downloading league

potent turret
normal mist
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Stay in arams to save yourself a bit Loop

raw marlin
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This game is easy as fuck

balmy condor
potent turret
snow hamlet
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ye

potent turret
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noice

marsh fjord
raw marlin
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3 weeks pre raid

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3 weeks before i GIVE A FOOOK

potent turret
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bis spec

snow hamlet
raw marlin
marsh fjord
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this is with chat decisions btw

potent turret
raw marlin
potent turret
raw marlin
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looks like a max video?#

marsh fjord
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yes its max stream

raw marlin
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what rogue spec did they pick?

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and they are missing like 4 mages

marsh fjord
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its not spec related

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just class

raw marlin
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ok well its wrong

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dk will be bdk

potent turret
raw marlin
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pot pal? is insane, brew and bdk

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holy paladin not mw

coral ibex
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ah yes the max's chat rwf comp prediction

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famously extremely accurate

pure moth
balmy condor
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yes

humble verge
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yay

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got a vault on my 3rd rogue just before servers going down

humble verge
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maybe ill do a key on my main

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as well

potent turret
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what did you actually get?

humble verge
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havent done one

humble verge
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no i did a key now

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its 2am eu

raw marlin
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its actually 1am eu

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dont put us in the +1hour timezone

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of eu please

humble verge
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wrong

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mf

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greenwich

raw marlin
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no

humble verge
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time

raw marlin
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mf

humble verge
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smh

raw marlin
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SMH

humble verge
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this mf

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thinks hes superior

raw marlin
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I AM

humble verge
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being on the 00:00 time

potent turret
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this your boyfriend?

humble verge
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actual twat

normal mist
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It's 01:16 atm

raw marlin
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YES FLUX

normal mist
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The correct time

raw marlin
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LETSS GOO

humble verge
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ofcourse

raw marlin
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FLUX FLUX FLUX

humble verge
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its the br*tish person

normal mist
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I'm not British :3

raw marlin
humble verge
raw marlin
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suck your pee?

humble verge
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nah

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smd

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smh

raw marlin
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bid mig

humble verge
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im not danish

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stop talking potato

raw marlin
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nore am i

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stop talking

marsh fjord
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Can you guys stop being so cringe

raw marlin
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numbers

humble verge
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nah this guy started

raw marlin
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gtfo

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NO HE STARTED IT

potent turret
humble verge
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with his "bri*ish" time

normal mist
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Guys a yellow name typed, turn on him

coral ibex
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this guy has been posting for like 8 hours now

humble verge
potent turret
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ye i am an outlaw.

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thats why i am so rude.

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at least not a druid pedo

normal mist
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Normal outlaw behavior

humble verge
normal mist
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(for legal reasons I'm joking)

raw marlin
potent turret
coral ibex
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i ignored him

raw marlin
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wtf is a gay nooj?

coral ibex
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but the messages still appear

normal mist
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He's a completionist

potent turret
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ahahahahahaahahah

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get ignored bitch

humble verge
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gay nooj is

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nooj but gay

coral ibex
raw marlin
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is a nooj like a wooly hat?

potent turret
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but he is harmless

humble verge
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its always the guys who pay the patreon that think they are above everyone else smh

raw marlin
coral ibex
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yea he literally subbed to the dead patreon just to get a role color

humble verge
coral ibex
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and then pinged someone to flex it

raw marlin
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bandana*

coral ibex
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very weird

raw marlin
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@coral ibex sup dude

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did you know gay nooj is ginger?

balmy condor
potent turret
half tartan
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What gives me full combo points when I Symbols and Shadowdance?

potent turret
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u do be so angy though i can see why people say it now

normal mist
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Wrong channel

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@half tartan

half tartan
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thx

balmy condor
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I'm not angry

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I'm asking you to not do something

humble verge
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u gotta get jiggy

potent turret
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but i have outlaw role?

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:(

coral ibex
ivory kraken
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Wtf is going on this channel

raw marlin
balmy condor
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what does the outlaw role have to do with it

normal mist
raw marlin
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we are all just chill homies dude

potent turret
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at least flux is cool about it.

raw marlin
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if i offended anyone i apologise

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unless it was nooj

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then i dont apologise

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everyone else though ❤️

humble verge
normal mist
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This is what happens when y'all understand what assassination truly means... We have so much time between mutilates we gotta make friends in discord to pass the time

raw marlin
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legit

normal mist
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And it is lovely

raw marlin
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Royal Daddy Flux

potent turret
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<insert my stance on druids here>

raw marlin
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Royal (to be) Daddy Flux

potent turret
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rest is cool peeps

normal mist
raw marlin
humble verge
potent turret
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I cannot confirm nor deny my stance on DKs sorry

raw marlin
potent turret
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Have to censor myself.

raw marlin
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thanks for clarifying

humble verge
humble verge
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i need to find some cool mexican songs

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and make a list

normal mist
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I need more Tom and Jerry in my life

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To remember the good old times

raw marlin
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babbyyy shark

normal mist
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As a grown up, understanding how complex the music's and sounds they've put in every single episode of Tom & Jerry it's insane

potent turret
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That's very uwu.

potent turret
normal mist
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You're just taking nonsense :/

potent turret
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When I said what I wanted to say that other dude started getting angy.

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uwu

normal mist
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He explained he wasn't angry tho, but it is indeed weird to come out swinging talking about pedos from other discords randomly

potent turret
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Well it was in some conversation a few days ago.

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But yeah, if I just go the uwu route u will just think i am a weirdo but not a rude one.

normal mist
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I mean you can uwu all you want between phrases, I don't really mind it

potent turret
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That's the point of it uwu.

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Even if peopled minded it I wouldn't care.

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It's after all just 3 letters, 2 of which is the same, with no bad intention about it.

normal mist
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Your tag literally asks you to uwu all the way anyway

potent turret
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That's fine. uwu

normal mist
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So you're just doing your job hehe

potent turret
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It do indeed seem that way. :3

normal mist
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You forgot something ASmadDannii

raw marlin
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what a noob

potent turret
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I didn't prowomise I wouwuld keep it in every message thowough.

normal mist
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Anyway gotta sleep now, cheers uwu

potent turret
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¨cya uwu cootie

nova kelp
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WHAT is happening in here?

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This is meant to be a for srs channel with maths and spreadsheets

potent turret
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Can't they just pin those messages? uwu

nova kelp
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people complaining that a sentence was structured ever so slightly semantically incorrect, thus creating misinformation

sturdy python
#

Happy belated birthday @balmy condor 👑

thorny pond
#

Similar looking builds heading into next season yea? Barring any late tuning changes?

humble verge
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jajajajaja

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did a prio 10

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got the signet from the warrior

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kind of set with trinkets

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just need pace lul

raw marlin
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mine is mythic

humble verge
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yeah i have 2 mythic signets on my main rogue

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what about it

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i got a myth hoc as well

potent turret
raw marlin
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i have 3

humble verge
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D:

potent turret
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not very uwu of you

humble verge
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before servers go offline

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u got 4min30

marsh fjord
#

if you guys want this channel normal again i would start banning tiger and loop

humble verge
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???

marsh fjord
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just a suggestion

humble verge
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this channel is never normal

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wdym

potent turret
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man

humble verge
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i am literally shitposting

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every time im in here

potent turret
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some people are so sensitive xd

humble verge
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D:

raw marlin
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soz

humble verge
humble verge
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AND PAYS FOR THE RH PATREON

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AINT NO WAY

potent turret
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uwu

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dw i love you pookie. <3

marsh fjord
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Are you guys 2/8ths or 1/4th of an inch

raw marlin
humble verge
raw marlin
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my team is bad

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its impossible to play lol

marsh fjord
marsh fjord
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Can't make macro's

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now making excuses

potent turret
nova kelp
# thorny pond Similar looking builds heading into next season yea? Barring any late tuning cha...

nothing really changing playstyle wise or update wise for us really, so builds will stay the same, fuck knows if we lean into vv or ma for raid, we'll probably be leaning into sub for the first wee while till we get the obligatory bare minimum upgrade to sin a couple of months in as per normal lately
bleed and hybridish builds still good for m+

they're really shaking things up for us lately

thorny pond
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Thanks mate. Just getting back into it

potent turret
nova kelp
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please note: "good" in this case is relevant to class comparison only

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compared to some other specs

marsh fjord
nova kelp
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not so good

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lol

thorny pond
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I’m just here for fun

potent turret
thorny pond
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Not going to dog walk myself on a spec that’s 1.2% better and be miserable

marsh fjord
raw marlin
thorny pond
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I rather enjoy it. Has its ups and downs but overall is a relatively reliable choice

honest needle
#

Just curious how much of a dps loss is the 1 button assist ?

main bridge
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it's not a hard spec though. i recommend actually learning it and save yourself the carpal tunnel

honest needle
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i know the rotation

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im just curious how much of a dps loss the 1 button assit thing is

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why did they even add that to the game

main bridge
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no idea man. i think it hurts the game more than it helps

honest needle
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i agree

main bridge
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it doesn't teach anyone anything and the only way it can help is if you're disabled or something, i guess

honest needle
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i took a break for a bit my friend just told me they added it, how long ago was it added

worthy rose
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make of that information what you will

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playing optimally yourself > hekili > blizzard's options

honest needle
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lol thats nutts

worthy rose
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supposedly its a 20% dps loss from optimal play

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but not every player even in the high end plays completely optimally

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so it might realistically be about a 10% loss potentially

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hard to really say coz its a lot of feelscrafting

mystic osprey
#

How are rogues looking this season? Any early contenders for raid ST?

balmy condor
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PTR tuning is a disaster atm

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there's no way to know anything

winged sun
mystic osprey
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Thanks @balmy condor

winged sun
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np

runic hinge
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Np

winged sun
runic hinge
lethal arrow
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6 weeks later

amber brook
#

siuuuu

solar wyvern
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halls 16 bleed build... rogues not feeling great rn boys

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prayge

balmy condor
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or maybe people will reroll

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upside

amber brook
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we will rise from the shadows as always

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matter of time

runic hinge
spice spire
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Need that

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I’m also a rogue next season

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Pissed

runic hinge
spice spire
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Nah kwan is on first five weeks of season

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We should be done by then

runic hinge
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I’m spriest this season

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You can have my pi

spice spire
buoyant herald
#

looks more like a cleave breakdown

solar wyvern
#

Also played ftb instead of momentum

buoyant herald
#

to be fair though shad is a top top top DH and marks is just OP so

rancid wind
#

Looking through my logs comparing to others, i'm getting way fewer CP from Ambush than other people, what am I missing?

balmy condor
#

you're not gambling the blindside slot machine hard enough

runic hinge
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Let’s go gambling!

rancid wind
#

well that's not fun

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is there a rule of thumb for how long an add should be up to justify putting rupture and/or garrote on it for the energy gain from Venomous Vim?

balmy condor
#

any amount of time is a good time if you're not going to overcap the energy

winged sun
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U realize that u get ur energy remaining on the duration back rgiht

rancid wind
#

i see that now

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i guess I have to get used to this mouseover thing

marsh ferry
solar wyvern
rancid wind
marsh ferry
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That’s good, I know sometimes people leave it on that other talent sometimes cause they didn’t realize / cause it used to be the preferred choice

subtle tundra
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how much are the buffs?

quiet oriole
waxen oyster
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lmao its so stupid

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how much gally damage is centric around spatter

prisma cypress
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what do you mean

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it’s stupid that doing a lot of cleave yields a lot of damage on a fight with adds to cleave?

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or that it’s stupid that the fight has a lot of adds?

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or stupid that getting a high parse ranking depends on doing a lot of add damage

runic hinge
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I think it’s the last one

static glacier
waxen oyster
subtle tundra
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is assa looking??

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next season

dense cedar
red schooner
subtle tundra
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i have glasses, is it dps increase

dense cedar
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dps loss

subtle tundra
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fuck

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need laser eye surgery before patch drops

runic hinge
grim jay
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The other r word

subtle tundra
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im baiting

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or just

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just being a goof

runic hinge
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oh, ig it worked on me

subtle tundra
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i might resub to play a bit for fun with guild mates

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but i wont prog

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or do anything serious

red schooner
subtle tundra
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considering ill miss the first 3 days of the patch and a whole week a bit later i cant play anyways

runic hinge
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wow is a fun game and im tired of the people who play it pretending its not

subtle tundra
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i like the social aspect 😉

runic hinge
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same

grim jay
red schooner
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It took us 89 pulls to rekill Mugzee uglyassdog

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We almost overtook the prog pull count

icy geyser
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does anyone have a shadowstep macro that when you press it, in cancels your current target and switches to your ss target?

red schooner
grim jay
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Unless you mouseover shadowstep which is ew

red schooner
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On the plus side the Gally rekill was only 14 pulls so, much more reasonable

thorny stag
#

Hi guys,
I don't know if this question has been asked in this channel(probably yes) but I have recently started a rouge as my alt and one of my biggest issue is energy and more specifically the lack of energy especially in raid environment.
I understand the concept of maintaining my bleeds ect.
Is there any trick to maintain a relatively high amount of energy or just accept the fact that the class works this way and I have to pool energy for like kingsbane ect.
Thank you for the feedback in advance.

prisma monolithBOT
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Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

thorny stag
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Ahh thanks, this makes sense

buoyant herald
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I love how far the game has come in terms of combat pacing that people pick up assass and are like “help me this can’t POSSIBLY be right” lol

grim jay
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Because people got used to resources being a joke

normal mist
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As a non assa rogue, what are resources?

golden loom
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the only resource im lacking at the moment is frame-rate garf

buoyant herald
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But soon you’ll have the coolest mog in game

golden loom
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true!

strange python
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noggenfogger sent you, didnt he?

plucky patio
grim jay
plucky patio
strange python
golden loom
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it just lets people spawn in infinite mobs so as long as people in the raid have it ur chillin

pine orbit
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on myth gallly, during intermission, are you guys hard swapping to adds or spattering off gally?

nova kelp
red schooner
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Occasionally throw out a blind if needed

pine orbit
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so the aptter range from gally will reach?

nova kelp
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not always

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but you shouldn't switch

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unless your RL is MAKING you at least

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if they are, they're wrong, but you should probably still do it

red schooner
pine orbit
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nah my RL is cool just tryna figure out best option

nova kelp
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then just don't switch

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like ever

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on any boss

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spatter cleave everything

red schooner
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Check this out, it'll help with the spatter weirdness on Gally

opaque jacinth
pine orbit
nova kelp
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on mythic it's less weird though

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like on mythic gally almost all of you r spatter is dictated by the tanks

nova kelp
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like literally everything else switches better than we do

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make them

red schooner
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Its when your RL asks you to shiv enrages that you die inside

nova kelp
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make your evokers do it

pine orbit
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lmaooo what evokers

opaque jacinth
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or your hunters

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or druids

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or monks

red schooner
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I'm still in favour of untying soothes to shiv, make it a separate thing

opaque jacinth
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there are far better options

pine orbit
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nahh i now just fin around

nova kelp
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shiv soothing should never have been a thing

red schooner
opaque jacinth
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it's nice qol for sub/ law

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but really just a happy accident if you soothe anything on sin

nova kelp
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either shiv soothes, or it's not a dps cd for sin

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pick one

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not both

red schooner
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I'll spend the gcd to deenrage, I don't wanna burn a shiv

pine orbit
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i definitly had to swap on stix for crabs (low dmg) but really trying not to swap on gally lol

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ive gotten away with it so far just making sure im makin the right choice

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spatter go burrr

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but CE more important

red schooner
nova kelp
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honestly

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the first like 70% of every fight barely mattesr

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especially on gally

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in terms of your dps output I mean lol

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everything that matters is good line ups and getting to go brrrr at the execute section

normal mist
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As someone who does not raid mythic, I totally agree with the previous statement

red schooner
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My 5 min CD send got scuffed by the big red circle uglyassdog

opaque jacinth
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You can still maintain uptime with the bomb, gally's hitbox is very large

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Unless the other melee chadded you out

red schooner
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Didn't wanna int the pull

pine orbit
opaque jacinth
red schooner
opaque jacinth
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Yeah igy

warm vortex
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Just get longer arms and hit him from 20 yards or so away

amber brook
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Blizzard please give us the extended range back ty

warm vortex
#

I would go back to rogue

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If they do that

red schooner
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I levelled a SV hunter recently and the 'you can temporarily hit from 15 yards away' thing is nice

ornate dawn
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Nah you have to play between the bosses ass cheeks to be able to hit it - thats the class fantasy

warm vortex
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I mean rogues love it from behind

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So it makes sense

ornate dawn
#

putting the ass in assassination

warm vortex
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Hell yea

amber brook
#

ass nation

normal mist
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Best nation

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No cap

warm vortex
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My fav part of the legion class hall quest line was when Whispyr himself entered the meeting room, stood on the table and yelled

“Hello ass nation”

spice spire
balmy condor
strange python
balmy condor
#

Honestly if she slits my throat for that it’s also a win

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Means I don’t have to play 11.3

strange python
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whispyr, homie, on a scale of 1 to im fucking stupid, how hard is ass to learn when ive never touched it?

warm vortex
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-5

balmy condor
strange python
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LMAO

royal lantern
balmy condor
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Or is it “I’m fucking stupid and I can play it”

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Okay

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Well

strange python
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cos im a lil stupid

balmy condor
#

Then it’s like a 0.3

strange python
#

oh so i should be somewhat okay

royal lantern
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apply bleeds, Press envenom, use everything on CD

strange python
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even if i am a complete moron (i was downplaying my idiocy alot)

royal lantern
#

thats kinda everything on assa

strange python
#

ahh oki cool

warm vortex
#

I mean

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real masters play the crab build

balmy condor
#

The hardest part about assassination is accepting that you don’t need to care about half the spec

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“I’m always out of energy” -> simply don’t care

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“My tea is auto proccing!!!!” -> simply don’t care

pliant remnant
strange python
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i read that, its like someone asked about it, and its like " you will run out of energy, get over it, envenom anyway"

balmy condor
#

Yeah

strange python
#

okay W thanks

warm vortex
#

The only thing i really dislike about assa is mythic + st dps

red schooner
#

If you lack the energy to hit buttons just spam that button until you have energy

balmy condor
#

Oddly enough, people play better when they turn their brain off with assa

strange python
#

that sounds good for my cos idk if my brain can turn on LMAO

balmy condor
#

Overthinking it is deadass the top 5 problems

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In spot 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5

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The moment you just let it happen everything becomes easy

red schooner
#

Playing fatebound is number 6

strange python
#

LMAO

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yeah i went for deathstalker, im not a fan of coinflipping

subtle tundra
#

cant over think if i never think

balmy condor
#

Real

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They saided that I should be thinkings twice

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But….

#

I don’t even thinks once

royal lantern
#

why use many word if few ok

strange python
#

me when think garf_sit

subtle tundra
balmy condor
#

The modern Plato man

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He’s thinking

subtle tundra
#

are you EXCITED for the new raid

balmy condor
#

Which just means that it sucks even more that we’re playing the same thing again

#

And also probably all of the fights are just going to be degenerate pad fiestas again

subtle tundra
#

i love AOE! ! ! !

balmy condor
#

So I’ll probably really enjoy the patch for 3 weeks and then want to kms as the community brainrot slowly gets to me

subtle tundra
#

whispyr should i swap to barrels?

red schooner
#

I'm waiting until we get to a rik reverb esque boss

subtle tundra
#

how much dps do i lose

red schooner
subtle tundra
red schooner
#

WE'RE SO BACK

subtle tundra
#

idk i was playing monk...

normal mist
subtle tundra
#

just make commands for every question
!raidfaq

red schooner
subtle tundra
#

i still cant believe CT is a 2 pointer

#

WHY is CT a 2pOINTER

balmy condor
#

Like a month in it’s just straight m+ and raid pad degeneracy

#

And the patch is joever

red schooner
#

Nah its fine I'll likely be progging boss 2 at that point

subtle tundra
balmy condor
#

After that it’s just the most bitchless fucks on the internet telling people they’re shit for not being 4 billion io and not having CE

subtle tundra
#

and have very meaningful choices

balmy condor
#

Pick mastery power

subtle tundra
#

what if it NINJA PULLS all the time

#

so its actually unplayable

balmy condor
#

Me when blizzard adds thing but it’s bugged and not the thing that it should be and so we do the other thing

red schooner
subtle tundra
#

two things can be true at the same time

red schooner
#

Equippable boomkin on ptr confirmed

iron carbon
#

For ones who tested the raid

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Is your gpu okay?

#

Or you had some performances issues?

hearty reef
#

whuspyr you dont doom enough

winged sun
#

Lag spikes every few sec that feezes my game completely

#

I was the only one afaik who lagged that hard but on my 2nd raid test it was fine

iron carbon
#

I hope my old stuff gonna handle this

grim jay
#

Can play it on your phone

primal jolt
#

brother wow can't handle wow

#

it'll be a lag fiesta for dimencius

iron carbon
grim jay
#

So thats kinda wrong