assassination

[ocean quiver]

So forced to be in 1

[winged sun]

Soaking a canister as rogue is diabolical

[waxen oyster]

normally rogue should be in venn diagram or one of the front ones

[golden loom]

but what classes do you have in the melee range canisters

[lethal arrow]

P sure most ppl put rogue in venn diagram

There was a guy in here last month who was on bomb duty too

[spice surge]

Nowadays the front ones should be the venn diagram

[lethal arrow]

Very funny

[waxen oyster]

because most people just copy dratnos

[ocean quiver]

I should be in no soaks

[waxen oyster]

yep

the healer soaks are now going on it

[winged sun]

calum copy this msg, ur RL sucks balls and is absolutely clueless about raidleading, if he had half an iq he would know rogues double soak healing debuff so that u dont leave melee for no reason

[spice surge]

Idk if youre doing one of the first 2 boms it literally doesnt matter

[lethal arrow]

What the m+ guy said

[spice surge]

Takes 2-3 seconds

[lethal arrow]

This was like ppl in the rl discord saying ass rogues need to swap to canisters

[ocean quiver]

It’s not him, it’s the people in group 1

[waxen oyster]

i feel the only melee i see doing bombs is dhs

usually

[ocean quiver]

Can’t soak it

[lethal arrow]

We have our bomb on a dk

[golden loom]

this for example is what we do, if I wasnt in either 3 or 4 I would be fuming

[lethal arrow]

Unkillable ass class

[winged sun]

<==== group 1

[ocean quiver]

I’m grp 1

[lethal arrow]

But like why

[waxen oyster]

our sp said

[ocean quiver]

I was playing boomie before

[lethal arrow]

Whose idea is that

[ocean quiver]

So I was in 1

And he never swapped it around

[golden loom]

what classes do you have in 3/4 @ocean quiver

[waxen oyster]

”if i can get to 1 without. a gate none of you have an excuse”

[ocean quiver]

Ngl mate I couldn’t tell you

[zenith elm]

It was me ☠️

[ocean quiver]

I think most of our comp is melee tho

At least this recllear

[lethal arrow]

Painful

[ocean quiver]

Yeah

[coral ibex]

just go in a melee soak

[ocean quiver]

We all leeching

[ocean quiver]

I did and we wiped

💀

[waxen oyster]

ranged afk?

[coral ibex]

"i'm a melee why am i assigned to a ranged soak"

make them fix it

[ocean quiver]

Probably

[ocean quiver]

I’ll mention it next raid day

[waxen oyster]

If a spriest can make it to 1

idk what people’s excuse is

[ocean quiver]

The people in group 1

[coral ibex]

i swear ranged are allowed to be literally fucking vegetables

[ocean quiver]

I think is another boomie; and 2 mages

I think

[coral ibex]

lmao

lmao

lmao

[waxen oyster]

2 mages

lmfao

[ocean quiver]

Yeah

[coral ibex]

yea go stand next to them

[golden loom]

I mean the only hard one is the overlap and there u just gate

[waxen oyster]

Yeah

exactly

[coral ibex]

and then ask why there are 3 ranged in the closest soak

[rotund oak]

spoiled rotten @ss specs

[coral ibex]

was your RL a sympathy hire?

[winged sun]

I never leave the boss for no reason

If u play correctly u can have 99.9% uptime on gallywix

[spice surge]

Even if you do a bomb

Thats 4-5 seconds

Of lost melees

[royal lantern]

our priest always does the same lmao

"if i can do this, everyone else can, stop slacking"

[spice surge]

Which doesnt matter

[lethal arrow]

have you ever seen a ranged player do melee mechanic

its a mess

[winged sun]

Idk i dont do bombs but 4 sec doesnt sound like much yea

[waxen oyster]

tbh i feel like its because

[coral ibex]

yea we still get drills dropped in melee on reclear #57 on sprocket

[waxen oyster]

any good mage joins a better guild

unless they’re friends

with people there

[coral ibex]

i just dont get it

[lethal arrow]

its simple

they suck!

[coral ibex]

our main mage has played fire the entire tier bc he just falls over without cheat

literally cannot play arcane he just falls over

[rotund oak]

💀

[ocean quiver]

Huh

[rotund oak]

i dont even raid but that sounds like a no-AT mage to me

[lethal arrow]

shuold just give everyone cheat death

[coral ibex]

no hes just bad

procs cheat on cd, demands externals on every fight

[rotund oak]

cauterize isnt bad to proc,its bad when it becomes a necesity

[lethal arrow]

as a ranged

[waxen oyster]

demanding externals as mage

[lethal arrow]

thats very funny

[waxen oyster]

[lethal arrow]

and as mage

with their 90 defensives

infinite mobility

[coral ibex]

hes literally just bad he fucks up his defensive uses all the time and then needs externals because he literally just sits in fire

[rotund oak]

lol

[lethal arrow]

6 ice blocks, 14 shimmers, mass barrier, ginvis, cheat death, alter time, ice cold,

[coral ibex]

and then spends 3-5 minutes jawning on and on about how weird it was that his buttons didn't work on that pull and he usually has something there but for some reason idk i guess he didn't, gonna have to look back at the vod because i swear i had something there, like i usually have something there and its fine, like i usually dont need help there but i guess i just fat fingered my button or something idk, maybe someone else could have covered it though

[rotund oak]

mage can literally press AT=>blink=>displacement=>shimmer=>at and use Shifting power to recharge it again in 20sec

[coral ibex]

and im literally gnawing at my enclosure begging to pull the boss again

[lethal arrow]

this sounds like our spriest

lul

every death isnt their fault and they have an excuse for it

[coral ibex]

like just say my bad and pull again

[rotund oak]

brother srsly

tell him to watch imfiredup

the man did some batcrazy at combos

on mechanics

[lethal arrow]

well tbf

that guys the best mage in the world

cant really expect someone to try to match that

[rotund oak]

prolly when it comes to pve he is

at combos mastered and perfected

[lethal arrow]

he could probably be rank 1 in pvp if he cared too tbh

[coral ibex]

he doesnt need to be that good

he just needs to not be a fucking vegetable

[rotund oak]

yeah jsut copy how he does stuff

dont even need to be innovative or anything

[lethal arrow]

just tell them to look at lorrgs and logs man

its not that deep

[coral ibex]

like the guy fatfingers his kicks and then doesnt comm that he needs a backup and it wipes us on OAB 3-5 times a night

[waxen oyster]

AT might be the highest skill ceiling defensive

in the game

[golden loom]

what does looking at logs do

if u cant not stand in fire

[coral ibex]

"sorry idk why my kick wasn't up"

[lethal arrow]

lowkey just kick them

at that point

[coral ibex]

[lethal arrow]

if theyre just standing in shit for fun

[rotund oak]

very hard to track cs as a mage

i get it

tell him to play rogue for a day

will prolly die on every slam in existence

[lethal arrow]

some ppl need to just learn to be that guy that doesnt ever die and when they do everyone gasps

[rotund oak]

like as rogues we are famous for surviving through everything,cheese stuff

should be a passive trait for every rogue but it is true that most mages are just playing wrong

or focusing just on dmg

[midnight atlas]

mage needs more preplanning, alter time is huge if used right

[rotund oak]

mage can do some crazy stuff coz the kit has everything

it can swap from dmg mode to full control or survival in seconds

its very high skillexpressed class

[midnight atlas]

also melee vs ranged brain is real. when i tried mage i had trouble with positioning and other stuff.
on rogue i would just yolo dodge swirlies, strafe shadowstep the mage when problems arise

and i have a mage friend that would miss kicks playing rogue because he was not used to being in melee

somewhat afraid he'll die

[rotund oak]

personally from playing mage as ''a main'' for a lil bit i found myself alot more arrogant and risky in the way i actually played compared to being a rogue.I knew i had the distance + kit to handle everything,while rogue needs to proactively respond and dodge and do stuff.Mage jsut waits and responds

[midnight atlas]

and blames tank when they move mobs out of flame patch

or meteors

[rotund oak]

i just blink/DB to stop the casts and nova/Comet storm them

coc==>orb etc

i could never die

[midnight atlas]

yeah, and it feels nice to play

[night vessel]

which poisons should i use with hybrid build?

[spice surge]

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[hearty seal]

ngl I wonder if DTB shouldn't be an assa passive by default
like isn't that the point, lotsa poisons and bleeds

[nocturne quail]

How are DK so sensitive about raid buff

Rogue got atrophic poison and they complain

[spice surge]

Delete raidbuffs

I love comparing my m+ runs to other people are realizing theyre doing 10% more damage than me baseline just because i dont play with a group fully catered around myself

[fallow canopy]

what about the fantasy and the immersion tho

[spice surge]

Massive immersion value sitting in dornogal and getting declined

[unreal parcel]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[royal lantern]

just bring back Scrolls

we even had scrolls in fking remix

[half light]

bring back multistrike

[weary stump]

Give us the summoning scroll from remix please blizzard my raid group is so lazy even when we're missing a lock

[spice spire]

Being back spirit

[humble verge]

only 20 ilvls then i can log off

forever

maybe make another rogue

[spice spire]

My brother in Christ you can log off now you don’t have to do a damn thing we’re in garbage time bbgirl

[half light]

680 rogue speedrun

no no

[humble verge]

nah

[half light]

we're in mount collecting time

[humble verge]

im gonna do 6/8 on this rogue

tomorrow

free gear

free life

free monis

[spice spire]

Real plaxidentaly one tapped invincible last night

Was a W

[half light]

damn good job!

[humble verge]

atleast ive gotten mastery and crit heavy gear wtf is this luck

[half light]

I've gotten some nice mounts and I only have been farming with rogue and my mage alt

[spice spire]

That is the second feat of strength I one tapped the first was ashes four years ago

Not a mount farmer at all

[waxen oyster]

i got invincible years ago

[spice spire]

I think I have 150 total

[waxen oyster]

farming the smourne shards

[half light]

ohh that sounds awesome, I got ashes too that way but i dont remember how long ago

[spice spire]

I just wanted some mog from tempest

[waxen oyster]

The other benefit is jainas locket

[humble verge]

oh man

im missing 2 mounts

for 150 mount achi

[waxen oyster]

great way to drop a mage portal onto warlock closets

[humble verge]

ive got 158 on me but

[waxen oyster]

then blame the mage

[spice spire]

Last night I had 20 was bored and hit up icc

[half light]

im glad I dont have to visit antorus eonar again

only the hounds for now, but I want the raven lord

[waxen oyster]

i probably will if i ever want to bother with red scythe

[spice spire]

[waxen oyster]

i got blue

[spice spire]

I don’t ever have to do spine to get to madness again

[half light]

red scythe is dropping more easily this month

[spice spire]

Just have to kill up to ultrax

Oh shit

[waxen oyster]

kieron in the other channel

got all 3 in one run

[half light]

ohh nice, I'm missing one from madness 😭

[waxen oyster]

[spice spire]

@final star Wtf

[half light]

the one from normal, the others are done already

[spice spire]

I think I am too? But handmaiden is the one I want from it and I already got it so

[half light]

that's great

this event made me get into mount collecting a bit

I got 200 recently but a friend has like 600 and I'm like ??? how

[normal mist]

I hope this event isn't a 1 time only event

they could do this 2/3 times a year

[half light]

yeah this one should come back

too many xpacs to go through

[spice spire]

Oh dog some guy in my guild is a collecting fiend and is like 700+ iirc

[normal mist]

meanwhile im at 550+ and im not a collector

i just eventually get stuff

[spice spire]

You’re a mog collector

It hits adjacent

[humble verge]

"550" "not a collector"

does not fit in the same sentence

[runic hinge]

just now

[spice spire]

Hot

[half light]

it does: 550 mounts is easy unless you're not a collector

[waxen oyster]

is that rag’s

[normal mist]

lets just say the only mount i REALLY farmed was invincible

[runic hinge]

yes

[waxen oyster]

I got mine from cata tw

[humble verge]

I AM HIM

[normal mist]

other than that, i got them via achievements/tmog runs

[humble verge]

100 parse for ilvl

[runic hinge]

i got alysrazor from that, and a second one last night, finally got rag's on run 23

[final star]

yes mirlord

just get all 3

idk

[waxen oyster]

I get most of mine by accident

[half light]

holy luck

accident reminds me of when I came back to my old guild and we did Gally hero

[waxen oyster]

i got asmr my 3rd kill

[half light]

it was my first time and got aotc + asmr

[waxen oyster]

[half light]

let's say people weren't happy LMAO

[waxen oyster]

i also got 2 heroic ansurek mounts during that tier

[final star]

Yipee

[half light]

nice

rl got it too but he decided to roll it

tho he got 100 lmfao

[waxen oyster]

i mean i gave second to rando

gally mythic first kill though

[strange tundra]

Who asked

[humble verge]

you just did

[strange tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/821808130308571137.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[half light]

that's awesome

[humble verge]

fuck you

some of our trials got the mount before me

this is blasphemy

[strange tundra]

Deserved

[waxen oyster]

gally farm is basically just waiting

for the trials to realize to not be line terrorists

Most dangerous mechanic this raid is other players.

[half light]

don't remember me about stix with my guild or sprocket

https://tenor.com/view/dog-remember-bad-memories-gif-13097556

[waxen oyster]

Idk probably to keep my sanity when people suck at rekill

[zenith elm]

Very true, but its easy to see when apply fail too tjen

Then*

[waxen oyster]

This tier being overnerfed makes me more annoyed when people mess up.

I feel.

Because really no boss besides mugzee is that mechanical anymore.

[royal lantern]

"ranged doesnt move out in time with drills"

sprocket is a EXPERIENCE every week

[humble verge]

idk overnerfed but

[frank trench]

The damage ramping makes it feel over nerfed

[strange tundra]

@normal mist ni hao fine shyt

🥵 🌶️

[frank trench]

Stix on mythic is redic for a 4th boss imo

[polar rampart]

yeah, but they had to compensate cuz ppl said first 4 of season 1 were too easy

[frank trench]

Season 1 last 4 were absolute bangers

Kyveza was one of my favorite fights since Razagath

[normal mist]

I can't remember that one, send a image*

[strange tundra]

Wdym

[normal mist]

Auto correct op

[normal mist]

What's ni hao xD

[worn geyser]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[strange tundra]

Hello

[normal mist]

Oh... That's Chinese isn't it

[strange tundra]

Yeah i think so

[normal mist]

Ni hao homie how you doing today

[strange tundra]

All good just chilling wbu

[normal mist]

Bought my baby's car so I'm omw to pick it up!

[zenith elm]

Hello all ! Good evening

Here is my supper

[normal mist]

Hello belga

[zenith elm]

Milanese entrecote

500g of meat deep fried with some lemon juice

[main bridge]

[haughty flicker]

i hate when i deep fry my meat

but more power to you

[zenith elm]

And now i'm waiting for dessert

Will update once i get it

[spice surge]

Surely the lemon juice makes it more healthy

[zenith elm]

Molten chocolate soufflé

[zenith elm]

Obviously

[strange tundra]

Now I'm hungry

I would destroy that meat with tons of salt

[zenith elm]

It was delicious haha

[royal lantern]

lemon = fruit = healthy

[zenith elm]

AURA BUFF 8 PERCENT ???

WE ARE SO BACK

[main bridge]

it's a picture so it's bait

if it was real they'd just link the page

[maiden bear]

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/eu/ghosts-of-k-aresh-development-notes-577478#5899197

there you go

[runic hinge]

boring aura buff

[main bridge]

i don't mind an aura buff

i like sin as it is

[runic hinge]

I want fatebound to do aoe

[spice spire]

Yeah and I want a million dollars and Stuart

Can’t always get what we want bbgirl

[royal lantern]

buffing the set for sub but not assa is kinda insane lol

[spice spire]

Do hate the aura buff bits

[waxen oyster]

I mean sin design wise is fine.

So its not surprising they just aurabuff

[runic hinge]

hero talents are stinky

[waxen oyster]

If dsm was a personal buff

I would see no issue.

[haughty flicker]

i mean i fundamentally disagree with envenom bot being fine design wise

but thats not something that changes in a mid expac patch

[dapper cradle]

assa eating good

outlaw slowmode incoming

[runic hinge]

yeah ds is target locking a spec that's already target locked in cds and fatebound does -30% damage in aoe

[waxen oyster]

arent dhs also target locked

by a mechanic very similar

[coral ibex]

8% aura buff lets gooooo

[radiant pine]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/additional-patch-11-2-ptr-development-notes-warlock-and-spellsinger-buffs-377719?utm_source=discord-webhook

This new?

[royal lantern]

mate, its patchnotes

we get slowmode anyway

[winged sun]

8% omg its not even close to enough

its legit over

dont get hyped chat

its not enough dps

[polar rampart]

need at least 20%

[winged sun]

assa still sucks

it is what it is

[dapper cradle]

idk man people are literally shitting their pants

[red schooner]

No hero talent changes

pls

I'll take 8% this is good but also

[haughty flicker]

we take buffs

[sharp turtle]

zeross rofl

[celest drift]

Time to harass Whispyr

"ARe WE BaCK?"

kind of thing

[haughty flicker]

where sims

wtf

[covert jewel]

[waxen oyster]

buff assa ty

[covert jewel]

we need more

[polar rampart]

yeah whispyr, where's our new pin? :p

[covert jewel]

no sub during prog nonsense

ty

[red schooner]

wish granted, now sub throughout the entire tier

nw

[runic hinge]

DS sub

look at those tier buffs

[waxen oyster]

DS sub

doesnt that have a gorillion bugs

[runic hinge]

that's just sub

[haughty flicker]

prayge the trickster tier buffs keep it ahead of deathstalker

[fallow canopy]

I'm surprised the channel is moving slow

We got more ragebait when we had no changes

[coral ibex]

what changes

8% aura buff?

thats no changes bro

spec is the same

number just bigger

[final star]

we just have to accept

that the class isn't getting core changes

[wide gorge]

KB still reseting with fatebound tho

[final star]

👍

[fallow canopy]

Therefore its changed

[coral ibex]

yes well until they make cold blood reduced CD too fatebound is borked

didnt realize this until whisp mentioned the other day

so once again we are playing deathstalker simulator

[waxen oyster]

I love all the people asking about bis already

meanwhile first week of s2

"Idk what drops here"

[fallow canopy]

[spice spire]

Call me buffs

[waxen oyster]

I genuinely did not take a single loot at the undermine loot table

until mythic week

We're off to the delve mines first week of this tier though

since no raid+m0 is only champ track

[coral ibex]

unless ur in a really high rank guild pushing for ranks early then who really cares, just equip higher ilvl and prefer high mastery items generally

i dont need to plan out loot

just give me the first agi dagger that drops from raid

[waxen oyster]

Yeah I only give any remote shit

because raid leads annoy tf out of you

for droptimizers

idk whats the point when rogue sims dogpiss

so other people get bigger number gains anyway

[tropic nova]

You still have the bullshit of loosing deathstalkers mark in the ecodome boss if you apply it when they are seperated and they merge back together before you get darkest night. Is that intended or a bug?

[main bridge]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[tranquil cobalt]

8% buff eh

[timid bramble]

Assassination

All damage increased by 8%.

mom we are famous

[royal lantern]

they dont know

[fallow canopy]

[covert jewel]

tyty

legit depends if me or the other rog gonna play prog

[lusty kraken]

damn was assa down that bad

to get buffed 8%?

[strange tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-ben-yes-gif-27130395

[main monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/goddess-of-victory-nikke-doro-meme-knife-gif-13655503135447721047

[strange tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-ben-no-gif-25061558

[normal mist]

Deathstalker buffs too

[haughty flicker]

only for sub

[coral ibex]

not for us

[main monolith]

[waxen oyster]

Assa needs another 20% buff

clearly

[haughty flicker]

gib 100% aura buff

[waxen oyster]

30% spatter buff

ty

[strange tundra]

and 1 more vanish

[waxen oyster]

No we don't care about minigamers

cease

[strange tundra]

i need it for m+

[waxen oyster]

My statement remains

[strange tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/brom-and-ben-ben-and-brom-brom-gif-25557412

[zenith elm]

8 percent aura buff is diabolical

[winged sun]

new cooked build just dropped everyone

time to sandbag how bad sin rogue is

plz buff another 8%

[strange tundra]

@midnight mist Thoughts?

[haughty flicker]

master rage baiter

[zenith elm]

No crimson tempest ? Hell nah

[waxen oyster]

I would have said this is araid build

[zenith elm]

Zeross is again trying to ragebait

[waxen oyster]

until i saw IC

[zenith elm]

Dont take the ragebait

[white orchid]

Why would the death stalker buff be only to sub is that just a mistake? Weird if it’s tied to the same tier set lol

[balmy condor]

Fok talent no ct, sick

[winged sun]

^

[strange tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-ben-talking-tongue-out-tongue-talking-ben-tongue-gif-25277068

[uneven plume]

Sims

We need the simmsssss

[winged sun]

mortiz

[waxen oyster]

give import code

[winged sun]

u wanna know something

come to DMs

[waxen oyster]

and pin it

[winged sun]

and dont tell anyone

if u do

i wont tell u anything again

ok

[lean plover]

where pings im in panick mode

[haughty flicker]

ross misinformation campaign in full swing

[wooden star]

Was single target down that bad in raid testing for 8%? Genuinely curious

Cause m+ they looked ok still

[balmy condor]

[quiet oar]

WHATS MY BIS SET

[strange tundra]

ask whispyr

tag him

[zenith elm]

@balmy condor i think they are gonna go crazy tonight

[lean plover]

how was i @ on a voice chat wtf

[strange tundra]

u asked for pings idk

[waxen oyster]

whispyr i need 18590 crit else i do zdps

[lean plover]

[waxen oyster]

[runic hinge]

14k vers

[coral ibex]

@strange tundra https://youtu.be/-zDIxJnwmmA?list=PLD0-C8wH8HQn0EmAIt60fRpign-BBfrf1

[strange tundra]

more dps and more survivability

[strange tundra]

im not in a chill mode atm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5DGVoRt7UY

[burnt star]

Note says sub only for d.s. but they did the samething with evoker. Only named one spec. But the buff was for both spec

Might be the samething here

[strange tundra]

indie devs

[quartz kelp]

does the 2set bonus on ptr work rn? my biggest envenoms on ptr arent close to live

[ionic pumice]

any m+ builds for ptr?

[strange tundra]

@ionic pumice

[ionic pumice]

ty

[haughty flicker]

no

dont do that

lmao

[balmy condor]

It does, yes

[quartz kelp]

weird my max ones atm seem to be 15-16m on live while i got 11m on ptr so far

[ionic pumice]

should i just copy a live m+ build like bleed one? for ptr or anything new

[quartz kelp]

same buffs etc

[zenith elm]

Ooooh yes

[zenith elm]

Was it intended ?

Oooh mb i misunderstood the question

[strange tundra]

just stay bleed build i think

unless u are raider then idk

[zenith elm]

Let him cook with zeeros build

Trust

[plush isle]

Sir Another Aura Buff has hit the Towers

[serene mason]

is it technically possible to have two darkest night envenoms covered bei the "dry" shiv on ptr?

(maybe not by the same shiv)

[pliant remnant]

On a scale of 0% to +8%, how barack are we???

[zenith elm]

No

[strange tundra]

Yes

[pliant remnant]

[zenith elm]

We are at

[coral ibex]

[pliant remnant]

[zenith elm]

@balmy condor i need to tell you, @midnight mist is getting mad at a buff

[split veldt]

kinda wild to me they didnt target just ST, our aoe is pretty good already

[balmy condor]

yes

[balmy condor]

yeah that sounds right

[balmy condor]

sounds like zac

[strange tundra]

i can fix her

[uneven plume]

@balmy condor on a scale from 1 to fdk, how good is our ST now

[zenith elm]

I wanna see the world burn

[sharp turtle]

will the sin buff make it more in line with outlaw?

[uneven plume]

That would be a sin nerf

[sharp turtle]

are you telling me that sin has been better this whole time

[zenith elm]

Yes

[strange tundra]

Yes

[sharp turtle]

bruh

[strange tundra]

Why are u playing piano with no results

[sharp turtle]

in raid or M+ or both?

[strange tundra]

Play braindead rota

[covert jewel]

any explanation why would rarely darkest night not consume when envenoming at 7 cp

[zenith elm]

Both

[strange tundra]

With good results

[zenith elm]

We dont need full physical comp to function

[covert jewel]

(not parry)

[sharp turtle]

is that with higher keys or low ones as well?

[uneven plume]

Even if you do have a phys comp, you need to live and breathe and one trick outlaw till your eyes bleed for years

[runic hinge]

does your target move slightly away from you?

[uneven plume]

For outlaw to work

[lament ridge]

i just gave myself carpal tunnel 🙂

[zenith elm]

Both

[uneven plume]

Sin is more plug and play

[zenith elm]

Very true

[uneven plume]

And results are really good

[sharp turtle]

ugh, now i have to regear for sin stats

[uneven plume]

Sin is loose with stats

Don’t need to bang your head over stats on sin

[sharp turtle]

https://raider.io/characters/us/stormrage/Draxmillion

[polar rampart]

basically why i started playing assa more in tww, like played outlaw for years hitting a billion buttons, picked up assa did more damage with it after hitting dummies for 10 minutes 😛

[sharp turtle]

i have mostly haste and vers

i know how to play sin, i just thought outlaw was generally better right now

[uneven plume]

Can recraft your haste vers into crit mastery

And should be good to go

[zenith elm]

And daggers

[sharp turtle]

i have hero track daggers, i think the bis ones. just not mythic track :/

for a stat recraft i dont need any crests?

[covert jewel]

well ye, but it happened twice and second time boss was standing still( sprocket intermission)

[lean plover]

nope

[runic hinge]

were you moving back on the conveyor?

[sharp turtle]

i did not know that, i dont think ive ever needed to recraft before

[covert jewel]

ye ig

i got the idea, but weird shit nonetheless

[runic hinge]

yeah just a weird bug

[little current]

+8%

[zenith elm]

Yes

[normal kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-goody-im-so-happy-gif-890920799602951090

[sharp turtle]

am i able to buy dinar purchases on one toon and send to another?

[zenith elm]

No

[sharp turtle]

weird, because before i equip a dinar purchase it asks me if im sure, if i select yes it becomes untradable or something?

[balmy condor]

you only get 3 dinar

[coral ibex]

if the item doesnt say warbound until equipped then you can't send it to alts

[zenith elm]

You have 3 items, not one less not one more

[marsh fjord]

oh we got a 8% buff

[sharp turtle]

Hi Whispyr

[jaunty matrix]

blizz started doing the funny for sin

aura buffs

like clockwork

[sharp turtle]

i think i have some saved because outlaw hero track items were a dps loss

[waxen oyster]

time to week 1 of the raid

for another aura buff

[sharp turtle]

they have no idea what to do with rogue

[zenith elm]

True time to sandbag

[marsh fjord]

Honest qeustion what do you guys think they should do to sin?

[normal mist]

nothing much

maybe rethink deathstalker

[marsh fjord]

What would you change about DS?

[normal mist]

me personally? nothing

[red schooner]

Hero talent adjustments, make fatebound not die on AoE, make there be some easier way of moving or reapplying deathstalker

[marsh fjord]

Aoe deathstalker out of stealth?

[red schooner]

Nah, maybe have the option to have it apply on blindside or something, because for sub swapping the mark is much easier (though sub DS has its own issues)

[normal mist]

Instead of DSM being a target debuff it could be a player buff

that would fix a lot of stuff

and all the ST deathstalker talents would only affect your primary target

bsically how it works rn

But obviously im just spitting random thoughts

someone more knowledgeable could see problems in this

and point them out

[red schooner]

I like sin, I just don't like the hero talents.

If they tweaked the hero talents, I'd be happy.

[zenith elm]

True, hero talents needs some serious work on sin

[frank trench]

My only issue with sin is being colorblind is a m-effer trying to mouse apply ruptures while staying on marked target. Then if I tab off target to apply ruptures it’s hard for me to see the marked target in the mush of colors :/

[main bridge]

does the colorblind stuff in WoW options help with that?

[frank trench]

I can’t find the damn cursor to move around and select individual mobs or don’t realize I’m hovering on a mob and jamming ruptures into my mouseover and not my main target

lol no

[somber sparrow]

would be nice if there was like a "shift+tab" returning you to whichever target has the deathstalkers mark on it.

[frank trench]

For whatever reason blizzard loves them some green floors with green swirlies and red swirlies

[frank trench]

Yeah is there a macro to go back to focus?

[thorn thorn]

How much of an increase is the aura buff

[haughty flicker]

[native turret]

About 8%

[fallow canopy]

Where black cat?

[frank trench]

It barely helps I have never noticed it helping. The game just throws so many colors at me that you hust get like blindness trying to pick stuff out. I use combat targetting for kicks for this reason

[thorn thorn]

Im a gremlin now

[somber sparrow]

I suppose you could macro deathstalker's mark to /focus as well, and then you could have a macro to "/target focus" to go back to the focus target

[fallow canopy]

Your lizard character arc is taking over

[zenith elm]

We love a good gremlin

[thorn thorn]

Always has been

[fallow canopy]

[main bridge]

[frank trench]

Yeah I’ll need to work on that that’s a good idea I would bind it to shift tab

[zenith elm]

[frank trench]

Btw once you get used to it combat targetting is 🔥

[gray raven]

so the TLDR of next season is we got an aura buff and have to play deathmark again>

[main bridge]

that is a very silly conclusion

[haughty flicker]

well both of those statements are correct

we did get an aura buff

and deathmark is our main cd so we do have to play it

[fallow canopy]

[red schooner]

[gray raven]

lol sorry - I mean deathstalker's mark

[haughty flicker]

unless you use my patented no dm build that is

[gray raven]

aka coin isn't viable

[haughty flicker]

but its patented so you cant

[red schooner]

Pirated it the other day just try and stop me

[winged sun]

1st boss dps we are doomed chat

[haughty flicker]

my lawyers will be in touch

[lean plover]

hunters are turbo op no?

[winged sun]

sin is so bad

well

im not even top 10

xd

[haughty flicker]

coming down on you like nintendo

[lean plover]

🤷🤷

[azure dirge]

Was that bleed build?

[normal mist]

we need another 8%

[winged sun]

Nah normal raid build

no sandbagging

just pure gaming

that was with perma feint on all raid hits

so ye idk u do the math

not that good imo

[zenith elm]

You are just sandbagging

[winged sun]

doing same dps as live

[zenith elm]

Skill issue

We know you are sandbagging stop lying

[somber sparrow]

jokes on us regardless, you think they'd buff us if we were in bottom of the dps charts?

[normal mist]

i mean they did

8%

[zenith elm]

And apparently for mister zeross its still not enough 🤡

[normal mist]

Maybe it actually isnt

[vapid terrace]

It's not

[lean plover]

tuning is not nesr finished tho

[normal mist]

I'm not a numbers guy, but if after all the maths done 8% doesnt put us in a relatively good spot, maybe another small % could be good

[harsh anchor]

20% gg

[normal mist]

make 30%

[haughty flicker]

110% buff soon

maybe even 150%

[normal mist]

HEY

SHADOWLANDS S1

[zenith elm]

Aaah yes, the famous 200 percent aura buff

[normal mist]

wild times

[harsh anchor]

Just apply global spell echo buff so all of our abilities hit twice or tick twice

[waxen oyster]

We need to make feint cost no energy

[normal mist]

that would be too op

[waxen oyster]

Yeah you'd just macro it to everything on outlaw

[normal mist]

macro feint to every ability

yeah

XD

[haughty flicker]

i wouldnt press it anyway

fuck healers

[normal mist]

LOL

BASED

[waxen oyster]

well pressing it fucks their parse

[fallow canopy]

[spark fiber]

does anyone have a guide to completing the mage tower in legion, struggling just a bit

[thorn thorn]

Dont press it im tryna parse

[waxen oyster]

Real homies drop aoe circles on the raid to let the healer parse.

[somber sparrow]

"poison shock" - abilities that deal damage jolt the enemies immune system every 2 seconds, for half the abilities damage each tick. Lasts forever or until they take an antidote, which only I know the recipe for

[buoyant herald]

Look up a guide and collect the old gear that makes it trivial

[main bridge]

my action bar stopped changing when i stealth or get on my mount. how do i fix this?

[somber sparrow]

/reload

[main bridge]

tried it. no luck

[somber sparrow]

hmm weird. In a mythic vexie after getting on a bike my action bar also went weird. but a reload worked for me

[normal mist]

wowhead should have something

[sharp turtle]

hunter was gooning at the same time

[waxen oyster]

barely matters nowadays, equip a crafted wep with symbiosis and another with writhing

equip darkmoon radiance and symbiosis trinkets, infinitely more output

[main bridge]

switching to outlaw and back fixed it

[dim mica]

so weird my combo points now are all merged

used to be able to see each square

[harsh anchor]

Would you rather have one big bite of a chocolate bar or eat each chocolate square separately

[little current]

the latter

[harsh anchor]

There are no latters in shoots and chocolate bars

[haughty flicker]

if you bite into a chocolate bar that has squares instead of eating the squares individually you're fucked in the head

[sharp turtle]

or stoned

[humble verge]

we tankin a 10 boys

[main bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-coffin-coffin-dance-funeral-funny-farewell-gif-16737844

[waxen oyster]

wtf is that mog

no warbound gear

[main bridge]

lookin like you're straight outta Hellfire Penninsula in quest greens

[haughty flicker]

bro didnt even upgrade his belt

[waxen oyster]

shouldnt you get circlet

[runic hinge]

Can’t you buy greens higher than half your gear

[quaint spindle]

8% buff boys we are so back

[waxen oyster]

hes gonna leap into a pack

[quaint spindle]

[waxen oyster]

sync the whiteswings and get globaled

[harsh anchor]

The squares are decoration. A bar is meant for biting.

[haughty flicker]

never speak to me again

[harsh anchor]

[harsh anchor]

Alamo

LMAO

[thorn thorn]

Bro

Your mog

https://tenor.com/view/tf2memes-tf2-gmod-ragdoll-gif-26075798

[marsh fjord]

The fuck is this abomination

[humble verge]

this is not me

this was a pug tank

that wanted to tank a 10 😭

i forgot to clarify

[umbral sigil]

get delve belt or craft/find hero belt in s3? I just started playing again

[humble verge]

this is lil cute me

[humble verge]

delve belt takes like 20-30 minutes

you can do the delve at like tier 1 if u want

[winged sun]

plz buff assa

i abused ptr gear so i can do high dps

so if u see high dps

its fake

[humble verge]

aboos?

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[waxen oyster]

plunder set and not pirate smfh

[humble verge]

is this raid testing?

with max gear?

[haughty flicker]

its raid testing yes

boss has adds you choose how to break out and after a while he releases them all

so when they fuck up and get all the adds out at once caustic padding stonks

[humble verge]

suck my cannonballs

[winged sun]

what fight is that

doesnt look like real dps

[haughty flicker]

yeah its not

[haughty flicker]

op

[worn geyser]

the funnel u get on 3rd boss would be nice if they gave the adds like 25% more hp

when they break from the tubes they have legit no health, u get like 1 spender worth before they die

[winged sun]

btw

assa looks super powerful on those fights so far

once they tune their hp up

like

sin is gonna destroy 2nd and 3rd boss

im sad cuz that'll just show sin being rly good when its not

because the fights are made perfectly well for sin

[winged sun]

well ye ofc adds will get way more hpo

its tuned around 695 ilvl

i think

[marsh fjord]

it is yes

The 3th boss needs extremely more health and other mechanics

otherwise its gonna be a cake walk

[worn geyser]

yeah , those fights r nice for sin other than first fight

sub was looking good on 2nd boss

fatebound also felt pretty good 2nd boss , im dog at it but it lined up a bit better with damage amps i think with current tuning but tbh when they increase health ds prolly better again

[royal lantern]

i mean

FB doesnt line uup

cus CB is not reduced

(if they fix it, sure)

[haughty flicker]

surely fixed

[rose inlet]

have they fixed kb buff for fatebound yet

[haughty flicker]

[pliant remnant]

[red schooner]

[humble verge]

first try in floodgate

i get pacemaker

:3

[frozen glacier]

[humble verge]

decent dps at 660

against guildie 680

[bronze pike]

Your vdh is doing 0 damage btw

I want you to know that

[humble verge]

he was like

657

[bronze pike]

I didn’t stutter

[humble verge]

your mum

[bronze pike]

That’s season 1 numbers

[bronze pike]

[waxen oyster]

What key

and yeah that vdh dam

[humble verge]

flood 10

[bronze pike]

Help your friend

Send that vdh to me

[humble verge]

not my vdh

monk is my guildie

[bronze pike]

Then that vdh is doomed

[humble verge]

real

suddenly now i dont get invites to 10s

[polar rampart]

i'd be sus of the people giving you invite then :p

[humble verge]

why

certified pumper

according to dawn boosting

:3

[pliant remnant]

[inner swift]

fuck arsenal

[haughty flicker]

real

[normal mist]

fake

[humble verge]

only reason why im named ødegaard

[inner swift]

next season club

[humble verge]

is because

im Erling Haaland on my main rogue

:3

[inner swift]

arteta been there for 7 years doin jack shit

XD

[normal mist]

REAL

[inner swift]

ahah

[normal mist]

(i dont know anything about football but ill react like i do)

[inner swift]

XD

[normal mist]

ALL I KNOW

IS

https://tenor.com/view/cr7-football-robozão-gif-26544036

[inner swift]

hell no

[normal mist]

hes saying literally the opposite

HELL YES

SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

[coral ibex]

city fans wish they had a single player with as much influence

wait is that a chelsea jersey

holy moly

the delusion is even deeper

[sharp turtle]

ww blows rn

[humble verge]

yeah but he blows ur balls

[sharp turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/thad-castle-bms-blue-mountain-state-alan-ritchson-not-gay-gif-14605196

[royal lantern]

ofc they blow

its called WINDwalker

[sharp turtle]

prolly why they got the extra 3%

[worthy rose]

what if they called it windwalker

because they know its not even a fart like the wind

they think theyr the shit but they aint even a fart

[pliant remnant]

what if they called it windwanker

[sharp turtle]

ima name my monk toothless and leave him at level 1

[pliant remnant]

'cause it's wank

[granite sentinel]

3rd boss on mythic (killed)
not too bad tbh

[sharp turtle]

wait is the 8% on live or just ptr?

[granite sentinel]

hunters broken tho, so this sum fake dps for now

[humble verge]

i thougth this was on stix

rik*

for some reason

jesus

[humble verge]

bugged yeah

[sacred schooner]

why bm so good? -_-

[granite sentinel]

nah, just a fight with a lot of adds

[outer kernel]

11.2

[sharp turtle]

current BM bugs:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SyyJ9FJ-kU5LMMTsaXIesOUE4dY8cDiTkAVc-s0qw9M/edit?gid=958747325#gid=958747325

[lean plover]

doesnt look like its including ptr bugs tho

[humble verge]

lmao

do we have assa bug list
:3

[jaunty matrix]

pins is our bug list

[humble verge]

true

[jaunty matrix]

unless its a positive bug

then its possible its kept hidden

so blizz doesn't fix it

since they like to fix positive bugs quickly

[tacit nest]

What key level should u swap from bleed build?

[normal mist]

When your team comp starts lacking st

Or rookery

[haughty flicker]

when your mom tells you to

[normal mist]

Hi I'm mom

[tacit nest]

So no blanket, this key lvl needs more prio dmg

[normal mist]

You probably have read this already but:

!bleed

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[tacit nest]

I had not, ty. Just started playing my sin again. Been running outlaw mainly

[normal mist]

I wish you luck and that you have fun

[haughty flicker]

real

[sharp turtle]

is it normal for sins st damage to be super low?

[normal mist]

Depends

[sharp turtle]

with M+ talents

[normal mist]

Then yes

Especially bleed build

[sharp turtle]

like 600k lower than outlaws

[haughty flicker]

bleed/hybrid have very low st, cleave build has good st

[sharp turtle]

is cleave build worth for keys?

[normal mist]

Sacrifices are made for good at in keya

[normal mist]

!bleed

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[normal mist]

Read above

[haughty flicker]

its played in very high keys, most people bleed is just easier and better

[thin lichen]

"If you have to ask, you should play bleed" lol

[normal mist]

Yeah it makes sense

Most people asking are doing low keys

[shell crater]

is cyrce's still bis compared to say, a 681 crafted/

?

[frozen glacier]

no

[polar rampart]

probably not, youd have to sim to know exactly

[shell crater]

gotcha

[normal mist]

Machine with the numbers knows more than us feelscraft folks

[fallow canopy]

Robot smart me just press stabby stab

[sharp turtle]

is backstab still a thing where its an increase to attack an enemy from behind?

sorry if dumb question

[normal mist]

I wanna say probably, although it's basically a filler ability for sub

#subtlety homies know how to answer that question properly

[spice surge]

Yes, but the damage part of backstab is irrelevant

The main thing is that sub wont apply find weakness from backstab if attacking from the front

[sharp turtle]

so its not a thing for sin?

[normal mist]

No

We don't even have the ability

[sharp turtle]

okay kewl, i dont play sub, only outlaw and sin

wanted to make sure i didnt miss anything

[marsh ferry]

are you asking about the ability Backstab, or about standing behind enemies generally?

[normal mist]

The ability

[coral ibex]

you should be behind targets to not get parried as much as possible

which is a dps increase

[marsh ferry]

yeah, it seemed like that was what Draco wanted to know. specifically relevant for raid bosses and certain m+ bosses, if the level is skull (level 83)

[normal mist]

The only backstab we have is an ability tho

[marsh ferry]

to me, the phrasing made me think he was not asking about the ability itself

[normal mist]

He's not even here to confirm or deny 🤣

[marsh ferry]

i know 😦

well, ALL the information is out there now so hopefully he has everything he needs lol

[fathom flax]

Huge assassination changes today

[oblique jackal]

Woot we got buffed

[worthy rose]

is it crazy

that backstab no longer requires you to be behind the target

why isnt it just renamed stab intsead

[earnest remnant]

tbf for it to apply its associated debuff, you do need to be behind the target

so it still checks out

[real comet]

8% seems pretty fat no?

[haughty flicker]

its probably around 8% if i had to guess

[earnest remnant]

7. something

[real comet]

no no i mean the buffs

assassination got 8% damage buff on ptr

[spice surge]

Ye

Thats what they mean too

The 8% is only applied to assassination rogue things, so trinkets, melee attacks and other procs do not get buffed

Its usually around 10% or so of your damage that is coming from sources that are not buffed by it, so its more like a ~7.2% buff rather than a 8% one

But thats still a massive buff, which is neat

[floral mural]

!shiv

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[sharp turtle]

i wish we had tricks

[balmy condor]

We do?

[subtle kiln]

lies

[fallow canopy]

Maybe he meant magic tricks

[subtle kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/rocky-and-bullwinkle-classic-cartoon-gif-1073049229960695289

[humble verge]

almost beating 680 warrior in a 10 cb

🤨