assassination

[nova kelp]

you can for sure get the muscle memory part down, but man
that spec causes like decision fatigue like NO OTHER

I hit my limit at like 5 dungeons and I gota take a break

[bronze pike]

also puts the spec into a corner

cause

i dont think theyre dropping that offhand mace for anything until super mythic bis offhand weapon

[royal lantern]

you never saw me with a open steam lib then

thats REAL decision fatigue

[bronze pike]

so imagine

using

until way into season 3

a 658 weapon

[red schooner]

Is... Is it even a good DPS increase?

[kindred breach]

Yeah

I got 2% i think

from it

[red schooner]

Or is this some .1% minmax

[royal lantern]

its Outlaw

[kindred breach]

vs a 684 dagger

[red schooner]

[royal lantern]

so ofc it will be

[bronze pike]

2%

[royal lantern]

cus "Outlaw" and "Most Degen shit possible" go hand-in-hand

[bronze pike]

cause its uncapped

[royal lantern]

[bronze pike]

vanish resets the weapon to proc again

since it takes you out of combat

outlaw is the only rogue spec that vanishes every 20 seconds

[red schooner]

What in the actual fuck

Wait so do you have to weaponswap every 20 seconds

[bronze pike]

no

[royal lantern]

cant wait for the next aniversary event, and the krosus neck is BiS for outlaw once again

[kindred breach]

Nah

[golden loom]

well its a m+ thing

[bronze pike]

you weapon swap for st

[kindred breach]

You just macro it for st

i meant the other weap

[bronze pike]

actually true

anyways tldr

dont sweat it with outlaw. enjoy it and play with brain off until you get the basics and muscle memory down

then you minmax the shit out of it

[nova kelp]

dude I hate these time limited giga drops that i NEVER FUCKING GET

[bronze pike]

or minmax until a level its still fun

i remeber when it was a .7% dps loss or something idr and idc to bte on cd

when your didnt have ruthless precision

dont shoot gun on gun spec pls

[red schooner]

Yeah, I'm just staying on sin/sub fuck that noise

[silent compass]

Did assass get buffed or am i looking at an old thing

[quiet oar]

No

they were not buffed

[sharp viper]

wishful thinking

[nova kelp]

we got a MASSIVE buf

if you play 1 button assist

[quiet oar]

We are not demo warlocks

[sharp viper]

demo locks simming over 3M dps in s2 but being lowest performing lock spec is still funny to me

[quiet oar]

Just use 1 Button

and you lose 5%

[sharp viper]

movement still exists and kills demo dmg

bring back instant hog

[quiet oar]

Thats true

Just have enough evokers

to chain spatial

[red schooner]

Just assign one designated warlock healer, keep warlock in one place

[balmy condor]

wait seriously?

fuck

I thought we were

[grim jay]

You got it mixed up

[hearty reef]

Hi whuspyr

[grim jay]

Only the takes and questions are demonic

[balmy condor]

hello

[quiet oar]

Ye i hate it, that i had to bring you that news

[hearty reef]

Just chatting, you think we see some more rog notes for 11.2

[balmy condor]

probably

[red schooner]

Whispyr hasn't consulted the orb recently

We don't know

[hearty reef]

Likely?

[balmy condor]

pondering my orb

out here polishing my knob and pondering my orb

[red schooner]

I await the video for the pookies with the orbs ponderings

[balmy condor]

call my ass pulled pork the way I be cranking my hog

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-kitten-tail-gif-2807014530831329580

[red schooner]

Besides we've lost whispyr to the horse game now, it has consumed him

[quiet oar]

Whispyr on the Horsegirl arc

before GTA6

wasnt on my Bingo card

[hearty reef]

The what????????

What he on????????

[red schooner]

The horse game

[balmy condor]

the horse game

[red schooner]

The horse game

It's the canon name

[balmy condor]

umamusume ironically one of the better gacha's I've played

I used to be big on summoners war

feels kinda similar to that but the text story is a nice touch

[grim jay]

I wouldnt play a game called umamusume

[balmy condor]

summon rates are also really good tbh because the rng is in the grind more so than the characters

but like

surprisingly robust and well thought out gacha game

I'm pleasantly surprised

[quiet oar]

What happened to good old Maplestory WHisp

#notmywhisp

[red schooner]

How is it as a f2p experience? I know that some gachas are better than others for that sort of thing

[balmy condor]

I still play that too

[balmy condor]

honestly not sure but seems alright

the pay to win is like you get to summon a mass amount of cards and get all your shit set up but then you hit the grind wall anyway

and you can't just pay to win through the wall

so seems better than most

[hearty reef]

.........

[balmy condor]

there's definitely p2w involved but the p2w is mostly there to ensure you get the good horses/supports as a foundation

[grim jay]

Sounds like its bad

[humble verge]

wtf first try lol :D

[grim jay]

Nike wanted p2w

[grim jay]

Which one was that again

[humble verge]

the old tbc one

[balmy condor]

Its a gacha game, insane p2w is expected

[humble verge]

now to get the new one

[grim jay]

Oh wait is the droprate Event live?

[humble verge]

yes

this week

[grim jay]

Gotta log in and farm some stuff with all my chars

Invincible for example

The legendary items got buffed aswell right? Is that worth it?

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-lol-laughing-at-you-the-simpsons-gif-7345683

[grim jay]

What?

[steel ridge]

imagine farming mounts

[quiet oar]

Imagine not having invincible

[grim jay]

I most of the time have a hard time logging in for raid

[steel ridge]

blizzard be like: hey here is some alledgedly buffed droprates for unicorns, trust

[grim jay]

Do you seriously think I farm mounts then?

[grim jay]

That sounds like some tinfoil stuff

[quiet oar]

[steel ridge]

😄

[quiet oar]

I mean

you do know

So yes

Yes i do think that

[grim jay]

I think the only mounts ive tried to farm for like 8 runs were invincible and the horse in kara

[steel ridge]

we all know how they do numbers...(decimal errors) it could very well be that the droprate is actually 10 times lower than before... has never happened before, right. RIGHT? but well if the fomo inducing methods work, good for them.

its a nice bonus for people who make it their main content to grind for mounts, tho

not gonna make me suddenly wake up and go: "yeah i really need to visit ICC!"

also, the chances are 50:50 anyway, anyone with basic math knows that!

[royal lantern]

if you saw the event and think its not a real increase, idk man

getting a "guildmate got X mount" message every 10min yesterday lol

[quiet oar]

This is waht i can get behind

50/50

Either it happens or it doesnt

[steel ridge]

dont take life so serious man, nothing is real

[quiet oar]

Its all an simulation

You will wake up soon

its 2010

[steel ridge]

i would wake up in 2005 and avril would still be in the charts

[quiet oar]

You wathc superrtl @royal lantern and Cataclysm just got a new patch

[quiet oar]

HE IS SK8TER BOI

I SAID SEE YOU LATER BOI

[steel ridge]

now we´re talkin

[quiet oar]

Bring me to life

Nerazar

[humble verge]

both in 1 run lmao

[quiet oar]

just like evanscence

[steel ridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1012847410432704615/1263918962518003793/D181D0B8D0B6D0BAD0B0-D0B7D0B5D180D0BED0BAD183D0BB-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif?=&width=469&height=264

[rotund oak]

imagine not having the mount achiev

(im still missing ashes)

got everything else

(that i want)

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-heart-attack-the-feels-lord-jesus-help-me-help-gif-12421352

[quiet oar]

https://tenor.com/view/meddl-altschauerberg-fettlord-gif-7909975

[sharp viper]

etzedla

[steel ridge]

ich bin net derjeniche

[humble verge]

bruh

theres 2 people with switf spectral tiger showing off

[royal lantern]

"showing off"

the blue 4 polygons

[humble verge]

real

[royal lantern]

[humble verge]

then theres

some rogue with HoF and the gally mount here too

[royal lantern]

im one of the last 3 guys in the raidteam that didnt drop it yet

[solemn echo]

We finally killed the boss last night, I got lucky xdd

[royal lantern]

yooooo gz on kill

[solemn echo]

Thanks took way too long lmao prolly gonna retrial some of our range next tier xdd

[red schooner]

I'm one of 17 because the raid leader went, 'yeah we're gonna do reclear with 8 new people/bench warmers'

Sir this isn't reclear

This is re-prog

[solemn echo]

All 8 at once?

Brother

[red schooner]

Yes

[solemn echo]

Godspeed xd

[red schooner]

Instead of doing 2 at a time

I want out of the nightmare

[solemn echo]

I'm just glad to be in reclear, out top four pull counts were Sprocket > Gally > OAB > Mug'zee

[red schooner]

We went to 'reclear' mugzee, 34 pulls over 3 hours, no kill

[solemn echo]

Rip

Still don't get why they thought swapping out 8 players was a smart idea lmaooo

[red schooner]

I asked the GM, apparently a chunk of the roster went 'yeah I'm going on break' straight after getting ce

[zenith elm]

Damn

hope it will go better next time

[static glacier]

at this point is it a break til next tier angle

sounds like torture

[solemn echo]

That's crazy everyone in mine wants the mount xd

I'm prolly doing two reclears or so before focusing on pushing m+

[royal lantern]

mate, sorry to say that but

i think your raidteam died

[red schooner]

If that's the case then I'm free

Released from these shackles

[red schooner]

I don't care for the mount I just wanna help people get CE

I've used the class hall crow mount since I got it

[zenith elm]

if you want to

we can cuddle when you are free from your shackles

[normal mist]

Have you guys ever thought about ... Not login in wow and just play something else

That's freedom

[zenith elm]

but then what would i do ?

where would be my ass rogue ?

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-the-neat-thing-that's-the-neat-part-invincible-gif-3109787441708074597

[royal lantern]

yes

[red schooner]

But yeah I dunno, I ain't guild management, I turn up and stab boss

[normal mist]

Tryan homie have you killed the two new added monsters?

[rigid sphinx]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[royal lantern]

yes

[normal mist]

I still haven't killed temp lagi

Fucking headache masterpiece

[royal lantern]

have some lightning resistence

[normal mist]

NEVER

[grim jay]

Literally me most of the last few months

[royal lantern]

just kinda helpfull if you are not good at the underwater part

[zenith elm]

Did you see the patch notes ?

we got some nice buff

[normal mist]

I'll be honest when you meet the threshold in the underwater part it's pure cinema

My problem as LS is that many of it's attacks are continuous AoE

[royal lantern]

gotta evade instead of counter everything

[normal mist]

I parry one instance of DMG and get cooked a second later

[royal lantern]

its good that not EVERYTHING can be cheesed with counters tbh

[normal mist]

Yeah 😦

The swordsman in me tried to Parry everything

BUt

Steve as LS is beautiful

4/5 Iai spirit slash in a row

Pure cinema

I swear to God so many wow players would enjoy MH world and forward

[royal lantern]

best thing about the patch is weapon tmog

finally no more ugly green discs as weapons

[grim jay]

I would play it if you had more mmorpg-like stuff to do

Like dungeons

[static glacier]

hunting a monster or two can feel like a dungeon

running through maps of hostile wild monsters

with the target as the boss

you're in a group with different roles

[grim jay]

Isnt there mostly just whatever you are hunting in the map?

[static glacier]

there's other monsters too

[grim jay]

I played Monster Hunter World back then and the stuff besides your main target was kinda eh

[static glacier]

if they interefere mid-fight you can end up in 1v2s or 1v3s

it's fun

[red schooner]

New things terrify me

I have MH:W but it remains unplayed

[normal mist]

World was a great entry title for me

I've put 1000+h into it

Then 300+ into rise/sunbreak

And now nearing 300 in wilds

[amber brook]

How badly optimized is it currently

[nova kelp]

wilds runs fine for me

[normal mist]

It's slowly getting better, this update fixed some things.
But it still isn't perfect afaik from what I see on Reddit posts.
I have a good PC so I barely notice some problems

One of the main issues is that it kinda requires framegen

[amber brook]

fake frames?

[normal mist]

Which is treated as a red flag

Yes

[nova kelp]

I haven't played the new shit in wilds recently, been busy playing darktide

but I clocked a few just over 2 min kills on tempered ark a bit back

[normal mist]

Yeah those are speedrunner levels

[nova kelp]

yessir

that's the goal

[normal mist]

Some new monsters have a LOT of HP like 8star gore magala

[nova kelp]

I enjoy speed running in wilds and souls

[normal mist]

I wish. The only time I tried to be faster and faster was in world, dual blades VS alatreon

Fastest time was 10 minutes something

[nova kelp]

I've always been a weeb more than an edgelord

[normal mist]

Still no god

[nova kelp]

LS for me mostly

[normal mist]

Same for me

LS > DBS but I play both

Good gameplay

[nova kelp]

I really enjoy grounded glaive too, but I think it will eventually get it's gusto put into all the leaping shit

which I find boring

[normal mist]

Red gauge LS moveset is beautiful

[royal lantern]

still not great, but more acceptable for most now after the last Update

[royal lantern]

imagine needing a gauge to have a full fluid moveset with a high amount of combos

~SnS gang 💪

[grim jay]

Ive been a switch axe gamer

Sometimes insect glaive

Started out with long sword

[west jolt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1021265535222153296/1388833414278418442/attachment.gif?ex=686902e9&is=6867b169&hm=901fe08543820f27881054c3063b82ba82f32e87701c862c351ccf7da8cec0b3&=

[solemn echo]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-steals-stole-meme-gif-18484669

[normal mist]

I want to learn SA

[timid bramble]

How's it feeling in PTR. Sorry haven't stopped here in while and didn't see a PTR channel

People having fun? Not enough changes?

[normal mist]

There isn't one

[timid bramble]

Ok I figured that or I'm still high from the edible I took before bed

[normal mist]

Some complain, some say it's great

Better to ask when they actually finish fixing stuff

[timid bramble]

Yeah pattern is to complain at first 😂

Got to keep the trend of all class discs going.

Okie dokie 👍

[west jolt]

MINIMUM OF 3 MAINTENANCES ON NA WEEKLY

[zenith elm]

WE ARE DOOMED

[west jolt]

MAINTENANCES WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORAL IMPROVES

[golden loom]

outside of some herotalent stuff I am of the opinion that changes to assa would probably just have negative consequences, as the spec feels good to play atm already and stuff makes sense

changing stuff just to make changes is something that I generally am a bit wary towards

but yeah, hero talents should deffo get some help 😄

[royal hazel]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[visual sun]

until blizz flip fatebound capstone

[west jolt]

Jundi's plater is goated, simple smooth and each mob is colored for interrupt/prio kill/higher health than usual etc...

use his profile on each of my toons

not just current season stuff too, all old seasons, old expansions

[balmy condor]

Pretty sure cev’s and mine both use that coloring

It’s pretty standard for platers

[nova kelp]

I've used Cevs for some time

plater preference is weird though

changing shit once you're used to it is borderline heretical

[surreal vale]

why i have fatebound icon on my name

[deep gyro]

Because you’re the chosen one

[spice surge]

Been playing with jundies for a while now and I cant believe that i ever played keys without coloured nameplates

And I will complain loudly if blizzard doesnt incorporate it when they purge addons

[nova kelp]

playing keys WIHTOUT colourned nameplates is unironically gimping yourself

[spice surge]

Especially something like assa where prio target is so important

Just pressing the purple one and knowing thats the highest HP one is so much easier

(or whatever colour other profiles use(

[golden loom]

Did one key on PTR without any addons and the name plates with every single poison and bleed and whatever else effect made me sick

20 debuffs on a target nameplate when you press deathmark

[grim jay]

its really fun

can recommend

[normal mist]

Played a bit in world but my LS brain is so used to Parry

[midnight scroll]

quick question, i just bought myth track OAB dagger, now i wanna run ascendance on my off-hand dagger right?

[spice spire]

You’re really fun

[spice spire]

Yes

[midnight scroll]

thanks!

[barren yarrow]

hey guys, just wanted to share with you my dry shiv WA i made. Nothing fancy and it helps me out alot when/if im tunneling. Hope someone gets some use out of it. https://wago.io/EVNUxH_Cg

Mods if this is not sutable for posting ill delete.

[barren yarrow]

:/

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-meme-mods-gif-13608578677877456774

[spice spire]

I mean it’s a helpful WA. It’s topical and not a “haha check this YouTube video” idk what they’ll do here. Technically self promotion against the rules but this doesn’t scream to me, promoting for revenue type bit

[haughty flicker]

its a crypto miner

probably idk

[quartz kelp]

i imported the weakaura and it messaged my ex saying i miss her

[icy geyser]

as assa we run deadly poiosn or instant poison?

[coral ibex]

you always use the poisons you talent into

[haughty flicker]

deadly

never use instant

ever ever ever

[coral ibex]

the first node for assa is deadly poison

so

[west jolt]

I stopped playing sin couple months ago, back on it now

can I get a quick reminder? we use dungeon slice for m+ sims or patchwerk 5T?

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[west jolt]

ok

!simulations

[haughty flicker]

dungeon slice is fine

[west jolt]

!dungeonslice

[icy geyser]

got it

[iron carbon]

What you looking for?

[west jolt]

was looking for a command for sims

found it though, dungeonslice is valid for sin

[iron carbon]

!fuu ?

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

[barren yarrow]

nope i want nothing in return, just giving back to the community 🙂

its helped me out alot so i fuigured why not

[royal lantern]

fake

you never had a gf, you just finally took your meds

[quartz kelp]

[iron carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/burned-food-wtf-gif-22978287

[icy geyser]

they should make bleed application more easier with assa, I don't know..mouse over bleeds is not the thing, or spreading to 2 more targets as it is for now cuz realistically you can't spread all the bleeds in an M+ pull which has more than 5 targets 80-90% of the time

[royal lantern]

but you dont spread more then 5 bleeds most of the time...?

and how much more easy then IC can you make multidotting lol

[icy geyser]

well make it like sp, when we shadow crash, he dots all the mobs in a 8 yards aoe

xD

or that would make us OP?

[nocturne quail]

We should have the bleed part of IC always

[ocean sluice]

we are rogues we never will be

[icy geyser]

haven't played yet assa at high level

[balmy condor]

This convo again

[nocturne quail]

Sub has shitty IC perma but sin is the bleed spec

[icy geyser]

but at low keys 10-12, most of the time, I am under tank at dps

[royal lantern]

outlaw rogue during BfA was so strong, that it was one of the few times a m+ meta involved class stacking

[icy geyser]

660ilvl

[haughty flicker]

[nocturne quail]

Frankly…..

[red schooner]

...are you playing bleed build?

Just

Play bleed build

And win

[nocturne quail]

That’s a aSKILL ISSUE

[icy geyser]

hybrid build

[royal lantern]

thats a gigantic YOU thing, not a spec thing

assa is blasting in low keys like crazy lol

[red schooner]

There's your issue lmao

[ocean sluice]

true. that was like 10 years ago tho

[red schooner]

Swap to bleed, easy dps boost in low keys

[icy geyser]

then what am I doing wrong? pull starts, garrote and rupture from stealth, spread to 5 targets, ct > envenom > caustic > cd's and focus down the main target

[main bridge]

there is a lot more to the spec than that

[royal lantern]

like, assa in low-mid keys is

garrote garrote->Rupture rupture->get 5cp crimson tempest->everythung dies from sudden demise and you are top dps lol

[main bridge]

you shouldn't blame a skill issue on the spec

[royal lantern]

did some +10keys with guildmate rat alts and stuff gets executed at 25% hp lol

[icy geyser]

surprisangly, I am not. I have only 43% mastery, if that matters. 659 ilvl, with 681 and 671 weapons

and I do the exact opener

everytime I can, but at the end of the dungeon, I have under 2m overall

[royal lantern]

play bleed

simple as that

[ocean sluice]

i have worse everything and never get topped by tank and am often 2nd

[royal lantern]

if you play a build based around cleaving from a big target for aoe, ofc it will suck in keys where stuff dies fast

[icy geyser]

yes. that's what I am playing. hybrid build with 2 vanish

[haughty flicker]

i mean hybrid wont be losing to tank in 10-12s

even if you're playing with fucking echo raiders

[balmy condor]

Doing somethin wrong for sure

[ocean sluice]

post a log

[icy geyser]

let me see if I got any log from my runs

[iron carbon]

Do you maintain spatter?

[icy geyser]

no logs unfortunately.

[haughty flicker]

rupture that high on hybrid looks off

but i havent played that build this season so could be wrong

[haughty flicker]

without actually seeing what you're casting cant tell much from details other than what we already know

which is that something is wrong

[icy geyser]

and the fact that I was 22 ilvl under the rest of the gp

[ocean sluice]

still

[haughty flicker]

well the ilvl certainly doesnt help

[icy geyser]

why can't I see the logs from my runs? it says "the log comes from a leaderbord.." or smth like that

[balmy condor]

Cause it wasn’t logged

[haughty flicker]

someone needs to actually log and upload it

which few people do for keys

[normal mist]

If you're driving a Renault Clio and your homies are riding Lambos, you'll certainly not do as good as them

[icy geyser]

how can I enable logging for my keys?

[icy geyser]

fair point

[balmy condor]

/combatlog

[icy geyser]

every time I enter a dungeon?

[balmy condor]

It turns logging on/off

So doesn’t need to really be at the start

!wcl

[prisma monolith]

Getting Started with Warcraftlogs https://www.wowhead.com/guide/how-to-use-warcraft-logs-6341
Logging your combat is a very powerful tool, and the main way of finding mistakes and improving yourself. Logging your raid, mythic+, or even just when you hit a dummy can be great way to learn!
Here's some common things to look at for rogues:

Checking your resources/overcap: Table -> Resources -> Energy/Combo Points from the dropdown
Buff Uptime and trigger amount such as adr/envenom/symbols: Table -> Buffs
Checking casts: Timeline -> Casts (shows sequencing) or Table -> Casts (for cast overview)

[icy geyser]

still, I was expecting to do at least 2.5m at this ilvl. dunno, as you said, I have to log a run and provide you guys the log

I have a rookery 12 if any of you want to run

[main bridge]

interesting pitch

[haughty flicker]

no keys this month

only mount farming

[ocean sluice]

thought that said this bish

[icy geyser]

if I use the command /combatlog it will remain on for all my chars or the specific one I am logged on at that time?

[balmy condor]

logged in

[haughty flicker]

or just be lazy like me and use loggerhead to just always be logging

[iron carbon]

I use r.io for logging

[iron carbon]

Or scl yes

[royal lantern]

or just be lazy like me and dont log because somebody else will always be logging anyway

[balmy condor]

idk if details fixed their garbage ass code for aura uptimes but just based on this it seems like you have 88% uptime across the dungeon on rupture, but then only 66% on garrote which is insanely weird cause they should both be basically as high as possible, and then 40% on crimson tempest which is also strange cause if 88/90% is the full dungeon, 40% uptime would mean you spent over half the dungeon in single target, which simply cannot be true in a 12

[haughty flicker]

well thats the second part

i always log but never upload anyway

stonks

[balmy condor]

and the deathstalker mark uptime being just as high as crimson tempest

sounds

insanely cursed

so

definitely looks like skill issue

why or how is unclear

but the math ain't mathin

[rain berry]

gallywix mount will drop 3 times per kill until new season or next expansion?

[balmy condor]

I wanna say new season

but idk what the drop rate goes down to

[rain berry]

okey ty

[iron carbon]

75% on caustic is kinda weird too, no?

I mean shouldn't be up the 5 first global of pull as hybrid

[balmy condor]

2 garrotes 2 ruptures and a CT?

75 might be reasonable idk

but if the pulls are short enough to tank the caustic uptime then where tf is the sudden demise damage

nothings adding up

[drifting cloud]

next xpac

[balmy condor]

really?

3 drops?

doesn't it go down after the season and then again at the end of expac

[drifting cloud]

hasnt before

remember cheese farming jaina sales on absolute rats for under 10min runs

[half light]

damn I'm gonna relay that info to my guild so we farm the mount next season

[steel snow]

is there any plater script that changes colour when I apply rupture and garrote

[nocturne quail]

Rupture and garrote ? Maybe

Def rupture only

[steel snow]

for example normal mob colour yellow when I use garrote its blue when I use rupture its red and when I use both its purple

[icy geyser]

I use garrote only on st with this build and openers

after opener I only spread ct and rupture

[fresh kelp]

The zeross effect

[balmy condor]

so you're just

dropping gar off your main target and shit?

[icy geyser]

actually I got this build from shindig

[icy geyser]

in opener I garrote > garrote > rupture > rupture, after that I only use garrote on main target and bosses basically

[balmy condor]

it's just a basic ass build

okay well that should still be the same uptime then

like if you're maintaining on main target, you have the same uptime as rupture

but it's not

so you're dropping it

[icy geyser]

which means what? I should have ds mark uptime higher?

[balmy condor]

probably yes

[icy geyser]

yea, most surely

I'll have to improve on that

with scl I still have to upload logs on warcraftlogs?

[balmy condor]

yes

warcraftlogs is a third party

you have to get the data from the game to warcraftlogs

[thorn thorn]

@fallow canopy

[rotund oak]

did u forget someone?

[thorn thorn]

@humble verge

[thorn thorn]

[rotund oak]

[fallow canopy]

[rotund oak]

[normal mist]

@rotund oak i got you homie

[rotund oak]

❤️

[fallow canopy]

the homie

[normal mist]

The people's Homie

[rotund oak]

[thorn thorn]

I got 3 people i gotta send it to now

At some point im gonna get botted for @ing people

[normal mist]

I'll protect you, no worries

[thorn thorn]

Thanks king

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-ok-great-good-thumbs-up-gif-16351183

[icy geyser]

is it possible to macro shiv with thistle tea and also a focus for shiv?

[flint crag]

!build

!bleed

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[icy geyser]

with bleed build you have to manually spread the bleeds?

[shy axle]

if you come out of stealth 1 press will dot 3 targets, just use it twice/trice on the same mob and it will spread intelligently

if you do not come out of stealth rupture 5 mobs and ct, do not use gar if it is not buffed in aoe

[steel ridge]

@scarlet nexus found you.

[scarlet nexus]

what xd

[steel ridge]

kriegst post

[normal mist]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[icy geyser]

but I want to add focus shiv to this. will it work?

[normal mist]

Why tho

[cosmic robin]

why are we receiving 0 changes?

[icy geyser]

for example, in ToP first pull, I want to prio target on boss and use shiv on bloodthorn to remove enrage

if there is no other class that can remove it

[haughty flicker]

ideally you never do that anyway

but even if you did then you wouldnt want tea on that shiv in the first place

bc it isnt buffing anything

[icy geyser]

but if you add a mod key to it, then it should only shiv, without tea, right?

[haughty flicker]

no clue

[spice surge]

Youd generally want to hit it when you have shiv up anyway

As its one of your main cooldowns

[icy geyser]

and with the bleed build when do we use our shiv, durin deathmark?

[main bridge]

reading the guide would really help you

[icy geyser]

in the bleed section of the guide, haven't found anything saying when to use it, only that you can replace lightweight shiv with other talents if u want

[spice surge]

Also if youre playing bleed shiv hits 8 targets, so a focus macro wouldnt be necessary anyway

[icy geyser]

found it, thx

[thorn thorn]

🔮

[red schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/pondering-pondering-my-orb-my-orb-orb-pondering-my-pondering-my-orb-orb-gif-24060364

[haughty flicker]

they're saving up all the changes

and everything you've ever wished for ever is coming next patch

probably

[red schooner]

blizzard gonna make my dad come back from the store

[haughty flicker]

daddy ion will be back soon

[polar rampart]

bro it's coming next expansion, not next patch, how else we gonna move units

[keen spruce]

[winged quail]

All 200 rogue players will boost expansion sales through the roof

[thorn thorn]

Buff kb 30% and ill play sin blizzard

[half light]

what if I like kingsbane? 😦

is there a huge difference between kingsbane and bleed builds?

[icy geyser]

yea, bleed feels way better

[half light]

how so?

[icy geyser]

easier to manage

659ilvl

[buoyant herald]

play what you want homie, but bleed build is much easier to get results out of

[icy geyser]

where my last dungeon was half the overall

[half light]

so both have a kinda similar dps?

[buoyant herald]

same on bosses, bleed will do way more aoe until you get into higher keys where things live long enough for KB to always get full duration

so ~17s

[half light]

I've been using the kb mythic+ build and at this point it's been ingrained already, I don't remember my dps overall but I didn't feel it bad

ohh I see

[buoyant herald]

like the guide says

[polar rampart]

its too hard to get a full kb on anything below like a 16

[icy geyser]

true. I was getting 2-3m kb...I don't know, how much can you get in high keys?

[buoyant herald]

it's more around being able to set up and then get your full 14s of KB on a mob which is like...~20 seconds total

you could probably pull a log, idk

in raid my KBs do like 12-15m

[icy geyser]

where does scl pull logs?

[buoyant herald]

looks like zeross is getting like 8-11m KBs in keys

sounds about right

2-3m per cast is very low tbh but not sure what ilvl you are

[half light]

yeah I also do like 13m per kb cast in raid

im 679 rn

[icy geyser]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/TXCD7xjvcqQ1KVB9?fight=1&type=damage-done here is a log from my run

[buoyant herald]

that seems about right

breakdown wise. sudden demise a bit low for an 11 maybe

[tardy geyser]

I'm having a hard time tracking Kingsbane to use off cd in m+, anyone know if theres a weakaura for this

[icy geyser]

how do I hide the icon from wl?

[buoyant herald]

how annoying lol

assume you can just drag it off to the side somehow

[icy geyser]

kekw, that was it

i was just clicking it

[buoyant herald]

like just tracking the cooldown? you should be able to make one yourself with the simple premade function in WA

[icy geyser]

they should have at least 10+ seconds of bleed on them when they are under 35% or what?

just so I understand where I can improve

[buoyant herald]

you don't really play around it but i suspect your crimson tempests have maybe fallen off before they die? everyone's dps was fairly low (ilvl things probably) so mobs weren't dying that fast either

usually you get big demise damage in lower keys because things die before your first ruptures and CT has fallen off, so it procs with good value on everything

[humble verge]

holy rich now

poor mans pot yhes

[main bridge]

not even ⭐ ⭐ ⭐

[half light]

Do you think we might get new potions for the new season?

[humble verge]

no

we didnt for this tier

[half light]

Also what are your thoughts on the new tiers

Ohhh

Then I can safely get a big chunk of the current ones

[humble verge]

yeah as i said poor mans pots

instead of 127k

i spent 34k

[shadow scarab]

i might be bad at reading, but if i have a hero track offhand, should i put crests into regular gear upgrades or craft an offhand?

[red schooner]

Offhand is your worst slot so, save that til the end.

[shadow scarab]

sweet, thanks

[royal lantern]

imagine being stupid enough to buy r3 pots

instead of just getting them provided

probs some wannabe 3/8 guild

they always have the weirdest people

[red schooner]

we only get 20 provided

[haughty flicker]

[west jolt]

Is there any addon/WA that allows you more specific filtering in group finder for keys? I don't wanna see Ragnaros/Azralon/Quel'Thalas groups anymore

[red schooner]

not when we spend 3 hours wiping on mugzee on low % pulls

Burnt like 30 normal pots as well

Sad times

[west jolt]

More racist for you to assume that, shows where your mentality is

It's more about I don't enjoy the ping all the way from OCE.

[red schooner]

Our Mugzee strat was essentially 'get to phase 2 and pray that sensible people got the gaols'

[west jolt]

Get your head out of the gutter.

[red schooner]

it didn't happen

[west jolt]

Seems I've struck a nerve

That's right, take no accountability

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1021265535222153296/1388833414278418442/attachment.gif?=

[subtle tundra]

MIAU MIAU MIAU MIAU MIAU MIAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[runic hinge]

[west jolt]

Ah you're in Furry Femboy OnlyFans HQ as well?

[red schooner]

Aren't we all

[haughty flicker]

god i wish

[half light]

I hadn’t realized I have the outlaw tag but I’m not playing that lmao

[normal mist]

you can change it if you want

[half light]

Just did! It was weird cuz I only had the ass reaction

But played around with them and got it

[normal mist]

Ass reaction is the best reaction

meanwhile i have this green

I COULD BE RED

[red schooner]

You could be this light blue turqoise colour

[half light]

I’d like to be red so I could say I’m poison ivy when playing

[red schooner]

whatever the name is

[normal mist]

actually

if green would get removed

[half light]

To be green*

[normal mist]

i'd be pink first

[neon lantern]

Stealth, SS, Ambush, Garrote, Rupture(only on max cps), Mutilate til max cps, and then Envenom

[haughty flicker]

salmon best color

i take no sides

[red schooner]

you also fear commitment

[normal mist]

no

[half light]

Salmon is tasty

[haughty flicker]

im committed to being noncommittal

[neon lantern]

The guide doesn't have SnD in the rotation. Is SnD pointless for assassination?

[normal mist]

Yesn't

you auto apply it

[red schooner]

autoapplies from envenom

so just, ignore it

[normal mist]

when you envenom

[half light]

Somehow it’s still an active ability

[normal mist]

and 1Brotation USES IT

[neon lantern]

Oh, I didn't notice that it apply

[normal mist]

check your spellbook for a passive called "cut to the chase"

[red schooner]

Pre-pull minmax, build combo points, manual cast SND before pull

[royal lantern]

yo mean #assassination ?

[half light]

Yeah don’t worry about it, it’ll be there automatically

[red schooner]

Secret tech

[neon lantern]

So, having max cps doesn't matter then?

[half light]

Nique

[west crown]

Only for hero talent

[half light]

It’s a bit iffy to always have max cps due to how seal fate works, no?

[red schooner]

So, we have the hero talent called deathstalkers mark.

When the mark has stacks left, we send on 5+, this burns a stack. At 0 stacks we gain a buff called 'darkest night', where we send an envenom at max CPs.

[normal mist]

You want to spend your deathstalker's mark stacks, its a loop gameplay. They are consumed when you use a finisher at 5 OR more Cps'

[west crown]

No we don’t play around that

[neon lantern]

Oh yea, I need to remember Deathmark to the rotation

[half light]

No I mean, that’s why the rule is 5+ cps usually, is that right?

[normal mist]

get to lvl 74, just go down the hero talent tree straight

[normal mist]

deathstalkers mark

[west crown]

No, 5+ triggers hero talent. Nothing to do with seal fate

[half light]

Ohh

[haughty flicker]

well the rule is normally around that regardless of the hero talent

because otherwise you'd start wasting cps

[normal mist]

WE USED

TO FINISH

ON 4

:C

[half light]

Yeah lmao

[haughty flicker]

i'd argue 4 is around 5

[royal lantern]

yeha but less max cp back then aswell

[normal mist]

xD

[half light]

I still remember that

[half light]

Exactly

Good ol times

[normal mist]

it was... 1 year ago

[half light]

I wanted to play mop classic then remembered we don’t have some QoL there

[royal lantern]

like, its still the same "rule"

finisher at 4 cus max cp was 6 and using mutilate at 4cp has high chance to waste CP

now its finisher at 5 cus max cp is 7 and mutilate at 5cp has a high chance to waste CP

[royal lantern]

acient times

@subtle tundra still played the game back then

[normal mist]

TRUE

[neon lantern]

Ok, let me test it out with some TW

[royal lantern]

TW is no good to try stuff out tbh

[half light]

I was playing on DF s1 last time until my laptop fried

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-magic-lion-witch-narnia-dont-recite-gif-14879671

[normal mist]

oof, rest in peace pc

[half light]

I still have it but repairing it costs like 600 usd in my local currency, the mobo with a gpu in it died

So I saved and got another one instead

[subtle tundra]

fdsa09urgf0dieyhtg 9p8udhgvuzxcfiohv soe[dhytirgqe89rtguy a0icyg[s9f0diugj

[haughty flicker]

real

[normal mist]

Ambush applies 3 marks, you consume them by using finishers at 5 or more cp

After you consume the 3 stacks OR when the target dies, you gain "Darkest night" buff, which makes your next envenom at full cps (7) do extra dmg, 100% crit and apply the 3 marks again

its a loop gameplay

also, i wont gear up until S3

[royal lantern]

bro im convinced my character is older then most people here sometimes

[haughty flicker]

this is assa

most people are pushing 40\

[royal lantern]

tf man, im not even 30

[red schooner]

I'm 32 I'm not washed I swear.

[normal mist]

but i am

[haughty flicker]

i'll be 26 in a couple weeks so basically dead

[royal lantern]

you are also soon allowed to make Dad jokes

[normal mist]

IVE BEEN DOING THEM FOR YEARS

although more irl

[spice spire]

Old

[red schooner]

i said i'm 32 i didn't say that i wanted to hate life

[neon lantern]

Question, it say when energy below 30, drink tea. Does that mean it auto drink or it just telling me to drink below 30?

[polar rampart]

otto

[normal mist]

it will auto drink a tea

also, get this macro:

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[pliant remnant]

I like the idea of it just being a suggestion

like Blizz just casually slaps a lil loading screen tip into the tooltip

[west jolt]

Who tf are you that's actually funny - no hate, just curious

you can DM me if u want

[ocean quiver]

Any pro delvers here

[main bridge]

yes what's the question?

[ocean quiver]

What are the best options for brann for solo t11?

Do we run dps brann or heal + what curio things do we use

(as assassin)

[red schooner]

Healing

[main bridge]

healing brann, mechasaur ez build kit, 3d bio printer

[red schooner]

No clue about curios I just slapped random stuff on

[ocean quiver]

Sweet appreciate it

would you say it's easy to just solo it?

[main bridge]

yeah solo is easiest. it scales up pretty drastically with a group

and it's even easier as rogue because you can stealth through any non required areas

[ocean quiver]

Perfect, thanks

[ocean quiver]

Am I missing something? I thought you're supposed to get like a chunk of crests for completing on t11?

Just did delve and no bigcrests

maybe has to be boundful

[red schooner]

Probably bountiful, yeah

Also it's only 7 gilded for a normal bountiful

With the map it's like 20 or something

[ocean quiver]

no point doing it then ig

too lazy for that

[waxen oyster]

You need to kill the underpin elites

There’s 5 per run

[normal mist]

and a map

[waxen oyster]

to get the 15 runed that is

[ocean quiver]

on non-boundful?

or boundful

[waxen oyster]

bodyguard intern/well connected friend/explosive friend/fan

yes on any

[ocean quiver]

ah

too lazy

[drifting cloud]

you dont need all 5

[waxen oyster]

for runed crests pre sure

[ocean quiver]

may as well just do a dungeon

[drifting cloud]

its either 3 or 4 packs

I forgot already how many it was

[waxen oyster]

you just do sidestreet

and pull them all

[ocean quiver]

takes too much time

[waxen oyster]

only annoying one is well connected friend since he summons another guy

every 15 seconds

takes like 5 mins

but i also just run it as sub

burst 15m with the overcharged buff

[winged quail]

you can get 60 gilded crests per week from delves now, it's actually pretty worth for gearing alts

[waxen oyster]

yeah thats just the weekly cap

you can get 15 runed per run no limit on any t11

[winged quail]

ye i did that on my dk, brain off and farmed skittering breach as blood

[plucky stream]

then convert to gilded huh

[winged quail]

yup

[waxen oyster]

tank its an even bigger joke

[winged quail]

depending on ur class/spec, it can be really time efficient too

[waxen oyster]

because dps bran’s damage

is very real too

[winged quail]

on blood i could pull the whole delve and kill it in one go

[waxen oyster]

^

[winged quail]

btw the curio that gives stacking movespeed and haste is giga for farming delves, you perma sprint through them

[waxen oyster]

rogue its by far the easiest on sub

you just tricks bran and pull

then nuke a big group with cds

[winged quail]

until bran starts backpedalling for no reason and resets the boss 3 times (don't ask)

[waxen oyster]

xddd

bran when im playing warrior and he kicks the 5m damage cast

[half light]

Yeah same lmao

Can I do dad jokes even if I’m just a mom to 2 kitties?

[ocean quiver]

making some progress

[fading vessel]

Hey guys, i'm new to assa, and my aoe dps is pretty good, i did a +10 floodgate to test the spec and i did like 4.27m overall (670 ilvl) i feel is ok, but my dps on single target boos is very bad, most like around 1.3-1.5m i rlly struggle with energy i most of the time no energy, do you have some advice? Do I have to pool energy a lot outside KB or DM window?

[west jolt]

are you running the bleed build? ST damage will be ass 99% of the time

[fading vessel]

i'm running hybrid 2x vanish

master assasin

[normal mist]

low ST is normal

[west jolt]

hybrid build then, you should definitely more than 1.3m dps on ST, but that could be a lot of obvious circumstances like sims/trinkets

[normal mist]

we sacrifice ST talents for AoE

Also, you could/should be running bleed build in low keys

[fading vessel]

it was only test to do higher keys later

that's why i want to improve my st^^

[west jolt]

im assuming you always have DM/KB/Shiv/Tea available for opening combo?

[fading vessel]

its true sometimes i had no DM

so i open with opener into kb

like it was my first key, and yeah i think i have maybe to hold my cd's for bosses

i come from outlaw so cooldown management is not a thing haha

[west jolt]

1.3m is a bit low, for 670ilvl with hybrid built especially...I'd look at some videos and maybe study the rotation a bit more
you also mentioned you're energy hungry, which is a little confusing to me because it's the opposite, I usually have more than enough energy because I don't always press Envenom if I have the previous Envenom buff already

[fading vessel]

i have to always pool energy on the buff?

maybe i'm spamming too much evenom then

do i have to pool also in KB? or in KB i send as much evenom as possible?

[normal mist]

you spam everytime you use cds

[pure moth]

You'd pool a bit before you hit kb

[fading vessel]

I also try to pool 150energy before intering kb

[normal mist]

as in shiv/kb/dm

[fading vessel]

and outside burst

i wait evenom buff to be 1s to fade?

[thorn thorn]

Is that a binding of binding

[ocean quiver]

the one with the embellishment?

I think it's just a regular ring

[thorn thorn]

Ok

[ocean quiver]

they share the same icon I believe

[formal pewter]

new to Sin rogue here, just randomly checking logs for higher keys and they're using kingsbane in their mythic+ builds but none of the recommended builds suggest it on wowhead

am i looking at something wrong here

[balmy condor]

nop, that's correct

there are 3 builds on wowhead though and 2 of them have kingsbane

would suggest reading the talent page, goes over it in depth

[plucky stream]

So far I am liking the bleed build more then kb

but thats just cause I feel like im pumping more dmg with bleed build

[dense cove]

fan of knives with 2 or more targets in m+ when playing induction build eh?

[plucky stream]

the way these pulls just work out

[balmy condor]

depends on the build

[plucky stream]

!FoK

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[nova kelp]

This is going to come off as a sneak dis but I promise it's not at all. Whispyr, you must hate this time of a patch cycle where you end up having to go over all the stuff again lol

[fading vessel]

Some advice whispyr for ST on mm+ with induction build?

i have difficulties to pool energy

i go under 30 sometimes

[balmy condor]

yeah, the advice is don't pool

[balmy condor]

it's a little annoying yes

but I'm used to it

[plucky stream]

kinda insane I was looking at parses yday

[fading vessel]

i send evenom on cooldown??

[balmy condor]

yes

[plucky stream]

shindig has a perfect 99 score in his Mythic raiding profile lol

[fading vessel]

i have like no energy all the time

[balmy condor]

yes

[nova kelp]

Worry less about parses and more about solid play, there's so many potential impacts to a parse to consider

[fading vessel]

do i use thistle tea? or i let them auto use ?

[balmy condor]

!shiv

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[balmy condor]

if it procs automatically a couple times it's fine

[nova kelp]

you might wana preload a response to all the people who are going to ask you if you need to change that because of the new tier set next season

lol

[formal pewter]

!deathmark

tried it

[nova kelp]

peeps gona be like "do I need to make it reset=10?" or something constantly

[tall pumice]

hey guys

ive noticed that wowhead and YT have very different builds

for m+

any idea which one is better

[balmy condor]

they do not

you just didn't open the talent page and bother checking out the other builds

[tall pumice]

wdym

[formal pewter]

can say i did the same thing

[nova kelp]

omg, I had this conversation with a guildy when he made his alt rogue lol

[tall pumice]

i used the bleed build from wowhead

[formal pewter]

didnt realize there was more then 1 build under mythic +

[haughty flicker]

there are multiple builds on wowhead

[formal pewter]

because normally theres more then 1 link

[tall pumice]

these are the 2 builds

[nova kelp]

one of those is NOT "bleed"

[tall pumice]

ive noticed i run out of energy with the bleed build quite easy

yeah the first is the bleed buid

build*

the second has kingsbane which im guessing is for higher ST damage during boss

any idea which i should realistically be using as im starting to push +12 keys

[nova kelp]

bleed

[marsh ferry]

bleed

[tall pumice]

oh

[formal pewter]

when should you start using the hybrid build

[haughty flicker]

i cant imagine how demoralizing it must be to write an entire guide with multiple builds and explanations about which to use when

[formal pewter]

15+?

[haughty flicker]

just for nobody to scroll past the very first link

[nova kelp]

you wouldn't really bother considering to switch off bleed outside of a couple of dungeons until very high or when your groups commonly lack ST

[tall pumice]

ah okay

[nova kelp]

and when I say very high

[marsh ferry]

!bleed

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[nova kelp]

I mean like you COMMONLY have to constantly refresh your bleeds every single engagement

before that's the case, bleed will just fuck

and honestly you CAN just run bleed forever

fucking good build

[marsh ferry]

people doing 20s with bleed, it's solid

[tall pumice]

im good with bleed and top damage easily im just lacking a little in ST boss since my energy depletes easily

[nova kelp]

very chill, very easy, no worries

yeah ST is a bummer, but that's just how it be for some M+ builds

[normal mist]

the faster the energy depletes, the faster you have time to pick up a cup of coffee or an energy drink and take a sip

[tall pumice]

i guess ill just do a switcharoo for other content

[nova kelp]

the only dungeon I switch out of bleed for was rookery really, coz that last boss is a fuckwit

[tall pumice]

does it have the most health of all ST bosses

[nova kelp]

if you don't make your mark inside the damage phases you just extend the fight length by like a billion years automatically

[tall pumice]

i swear i always take so long on that'

also single targ, when i simmed it told me it kept up crimson tempest about 95% of the time, so should i still prioritise keeping it up over envenom?

[normal mist]

in bleed build, yes

[nova kelp]

bleeds prio

[tall pumice]

okay thanks all

[nova kelp]

Has this happened to anyone else at all?

[hard river]

Reporting for cheating

[severe silo]

If I wanted to play piano in WoW, I would be using Outlaw and not Asa Bleed.

[normal mist]

theres not much you can do as assa, you'll run out of energy anyway

[cursive frost]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[formal pewter]

vanish being on cd making it so you can't change specs is cancer

[neon lantern]

!wa assassination

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[neon lantern]

None of those was useful

[formal pewter]

someone give my dumb ass a macro for deathmark

[half light]

there are two builds inside of you, one of them says kingsbane and the other says anarchy

[hollow river]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[hollow river]

mm idk if we actually have it copy pasted

its pretty simple to write yourself tho

[formal pewter]

😭

i just started playing wow

nothing is simple for me

[fallow canopy]

#showtooltip Deathmark
/cast deathmark
/use tempered potion
/use 13 (or 14 depending on where your trinket is)

[formal pewter]

we made it

2 macros today

8D

[buoyant herald]

The wowhead guide will have a macro section too

[runic hinge]

Will the wowhead guide tell me how to find love

[buoyant herald]

It’s not a miracle worker sorry

[formal pewter]

can the guide tell me how to stop runnning out of energy

[polar rampart]

have multiple targets

[fallow canopy]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[formal pewter]

single target

oh

ty

[neon lantern]

Any advice/tips for running delves as an assassination? Usually I do delves with class who is dps that can heal, but I haven't try it with a pure dps class

[normal mist]

Brann healer

Step on the potions

Use evasion

[neon lantern]

There's only 3/4 potions Brann give out. I'm pretty sure I would need more

[normal mist]

They give HP + healing over time iirc

Just don't step on them all at the same time

[neon lantern]

Basically, I'm fuck...

[normal mist]

No idea why

I was running 11s at 650 easily

Always solo (+brann)

[main bridge]

you can always use CC if you're having trouble

[normal mist]

Dot dot dot run

[west jolt]

#assassination message

[neon lantern]

Idk, maybe I'm not fully confident on Brann healing skill. Which it's why I only play dps that can heal

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/running-ginu-kpop-demon-hunters-i'm-on-my-way-netflix-gif-1284628343899656204

[normal mist]

You have CDs, crimson vial, crippling poison

Just huge AoE dot and kite

[tall pumice]

Leech

Spam damage and you heal ur self