assassination

[humble verge]

wait nvm i cant

wtf

they deleted delete

what is this discord

[sharp viper]

discord on phone just sucks

[haughty flicker]

[red schooner]

Still there for me

[humble verge]

on phone?

[red schooner]

Maybe it's an update

[red schooner]

Ye

[humble verge]

imma update

nah

newest ver

wtf

well time for showa

[sudden sigil]

Do you not replace cyrcles circlet in this season?
Just reading from wowhead guide

[red schooner]

We can do with the turbo boost, depends on if you get a combo that sims higher.

A lot of people have been replacing them with heroic jastors + a myth ring but, sim it and see

There isn't a one size fits all rule

[sudden sigil]

Can i ask a stupid question what is the turbo boost

[red schooner]

We got an ilvl boost mid season

So myth track items used to cap out at 6/6 678ilvl, now it's 8/8 685ilvl or something like that

[sudden sigil]

Goooot it Thanks! Brain is fried appreciate it mate

[thorny swift]

@red schooner could u send the deathmark macro

[red schooner]

#showtooltip
/use 13
/cast deathmark

Idk I'm on mobile I probably fucking butchered that

[waxen oyster]

forgot
/cast Bloodfury
/cast Ancestral Call

smh

[thorny swift]

bad bot

hahaha

[red schooner]

I don't acknowledge people who don't play troll

[waxen oyster]

i like having shoes

[red schooner]

Gotta have standards

[golden loom]

#showtooltip Deathmark
/use 13
/use 14
/use item:212971
/use item:212970
/use item:212969
/use item:212265
/use item:212264
/use item:212263
/cast Deathmark

[red schooner]

Don't cater to people who put on use trinkets on 14 wtf

[golden loom]

(all the ranks of fleeting tempered pots and normal tempered pots in order so it will always prio fleeting -> rank 3>2>1)

[golden loom]

I have it there in case I ever for some reason missclick and put signet in the wrong slot

[molten willow]

Hey is the ROok embellishment 2 set paired with our rogue 4 set worth?

Im assuming not

because the haste proc probs does happen enough

[humble verge]

jaha.

[iron thorn]

it's time to give assa a shot

[rose inlet]

Nah it’s not good

[molten willow]

damn

[iron thorn]

for weekly 12s, do i play anything other than bleed build?

[golden loom]

no

[iron thorn]

sick

[molten willow]

I wasted two sparks then

Made it a month ago both of em

what stinks is you cant use the griftah powerser on em

[rose inlet]

Yeah it’s best to just follow the guide for emb recommendations

[molten willow]

The alchemical stone looks a hot ass versatility stick also the passive on it seems pretty good

but I know its no tthe top pick either

[rose inlet]

Yeah for trinkets you basically want hoc, priory, seaforium, eye and a few other niche picks

[molten willow]

Then I got these

[humble verge]

use pace

kezan is only worth using on mug and gally

tbh

[molten willow]

ok sweet im tired of using it lmfao

I really need a heroic HoC

[candid hull]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[south token]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[molten willow]

Are there any rogue coaches here?

[rotund oak]

why did u craft a 2nd wpn and stayed with hero track waist/wrist/boots?

also back

[coral ibex]

i can save you money on coaching - just read the wowhead guide

[sullen mural]

Hit button good

[molten willow]

oh like why did I not get a max craft bback and boots?

Sorry im a bit confused

[sullen mural]

Yeah because offhand weapon is the smallest upgrade u can get

[molten willow]

I was going for ilvl

[rotund oak]

yup,uve crafted a 2nd 681 wpn instead of going with another craft like boots/waist/wrist or back

makes sense

but fyi OH doesnt rly impact that much ur dps

prolly boots/waist would have been better

but as nooj said,should check the wowhead guide

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[molten willow]

oh damn

[molten willow]

True and Ive looked tghrough it alot referenced frequently. But things can always be taken further in terms of learning ya know what im sayin?

[coral ibex]

well it would have informed you not to craft an offhand

[molten willow]

yeh

[coral ibex]

before you spend your money on coaching you should focus on the fundamentals

that's all

[molten willow]

but I mean coaching for like rotation

and min maxing

[coral ibex]

the guide has the rotation

and opti

[worn geyser]

if ur really about learning u go dive into some logs and reference it vs the guide and really learn how to learn\anaylze

[coral ibex]

which part of the rotation do you think the wowhead guide is missing?

[molten willow]

none

[coral ibex]

[molten willow]

missing none

[main bridge]

it's your money but i think you can get all of that stuff for free by just posting logs here

[molten willow]

alright ill do that

I just dont want to be annoying

[main bridge]

it's not annoying - the purpose of this place is to get help ||and shitpost||

[worn geyser]

alot of people do it for free cause alot of times the best way to understand things is to try and teach it urself and also cause they are mega nice people in here

[molten willow]

alrighty well I do have this log , I was trying to orange parse but fell short so I know I missed something perhaps didnt time things in the most efficient way perhaps?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pBKmjP6XbgAFwLQZ?fight=45&type=damage-done

seems like im having issues lining up my racial potion deathmark all at the same exact time

[coral ibex]

you should be using a macro for it

[molten willow]

even though they arent necessarily too far apart

which I havent alright I need to fix that

[coral ibex]

!macro

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[molten willow]

oh dope

[pastel roost]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[molten willow]

Are there areas in here where I played unoptimally with my rotation apart from not using the macro?

[waxen oyster]

no reason to not macro racial with trinket and dm

[loud hawk]

not bad

but i need main hand 😩

[main bridge]

craft it

[little current]

can't you craft one pretty easy now

crests are uncapped

[loud hawk]

i have crafted bro

[fresh kelp]

pug myth raid

first 3 not so bad

Rik dagger

[loud hawk]

thats what i am thinking

[little current]

?????

you have 2 crafted

it's +3 ilvl if you get it from the vault

[waxen oyster]

bad mog

[little current]

its not a big deal

[main bridge]

that transmog is the bigger issue really

you're leaving big dam on the table with a mog like that

[little current]

what you don't like a woman showing her pussy to the world? during pride month?

[loud hawk]

opinion accepted

[little current]

smh

[loud hawk]

anyway

[waxen oyster]

idk im just a male orc rn with visions mask

[loud hawk]

ill do mythic pug and hope for best

[waxen oyster]

and murloc onesie shoes

[fresh kelp]

if you have extra dinar to spend you can also just buy the dagger

[loud hawk]

i bought Seaforium last week

[little current]

you can do catch up for dinars now

[waxen oyster]

We got 3 rik daggers the first month

[loud hawk]

you mean if you didnt get some at past weeks ?

[waxen oyster]

i got one the sub otp got the other two

[little current]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-one-piece-sword-epic-gif-17912030

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-steve-carell-the-office-cringe-gif-17778800

[waxen oyster]

I got a dagger from vault week 2 though

[normal mist]

What does showing pussy and pride month have to do with each other

[loud hawk]

W

[little current]

idk man im just spitballing

[loud hawk]

i am getting bullying about my looks !!

[waxen oyster]

Yeah those two dont correlate

unless you count some parades in major cities looking like exhibitionist shows

[split veldt]

surely they buff the belt

[little current]

oh god yeah that is the implication

oops

[waxen oyster]

granted its usually men

[waxen oyster]

probably will

[latent escarp]

Got any tips for 8 mask Visions bros?

Trash mobs ripping me a new one each pull 🫣

Completely solo, hitting like a truck

[rotund oak]

thats a fictional character on a game which u create and play btw

try a real woman(and dont start running)

[acoustic roost]

Stealth past a lot, vanish skip packs (especially the zone with all the bugs), use evasion/cloak and save them for the harder pulls

There’s an 8mask rogue vid on YouTube from a few weeks ago that had a pretty good route showing the skipped packs and what not. Should be even easier now since that was weeks before max titan console upgrades

[ancient rain]

hardest zone is mage quarter trash. sit at the entrance and pull packs of 2-3 patroliing goobers until the map is clear of them, then proceed

[loud hawk]

guys whats the name of the thing to add sockets on your fingers

[main bridge]

search for "setting"

[raw marlin]

am i blind or does luxthos rogue weakaura pact not show forced induction on the combo points?

[main bridge]

be careful not to buy the old one

[loud hawk]

this ?

[main bridge]

i think so, check the tooltip to confirm

[loud hawk]

ty

[fast phoenix]

finally killed M stix last night... but man oh man, going from stix to sprocketmuncher as Sin is depressing

[broken thicket]

ok so question, i've got the ring from bandit with crit/mast and i tried simming it to replace circlet, but on gear compare is upgrade while on droptimizer is not
wich one should i trust of the two?

[main bridge]

use top gear to sim. it has a search box

[broken thicket]

thats what i did, but tried droptimier(yes had the same stats) but had different results

so i should just go with what gear compare says

[keen spruce]

how different are we talking

[spice surge]

Use topgear, not gear compare, but the results shouldnt be much different

[broken thicket]

k might have done a miscalc will redo

[vale matrix]

How is assassinations prio/funnel dmg compared to mage??

[fast phoenix]

yeah probably, cause for me it was 0.4-0.5% better than cyrce

[jaunty kayak]

anyone know whether jastor is still bugged please? (re-equipping)

[tall atlas]

Guys, how doe the rogue feint tech on gally work

in the orange circles

is 1 rogue and 2 healers enough rogue in the middle with feint?

[cursive smelt]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4iq59Hcj6KHDa9Bz27mC6D Hi ! Why does everyone play void ritual if it's weaker?

thanks

[rotund oak]

@normal mist the mog^^

humans are just unbeatable

😍

boots need to go though

[cursive smelt]

i farm 10 hour for the coat

😂

[rotund oak]

boots,immediately

purge them

makes a wonderful mog look like a duck

[cursive smelt]

you want me to stay barefoot because I can't find black boots :/

[rotund oak]

u can like wear something with less volume and dark

[main bridge]

black boots seem like they would not be hard to find

[rotund oak]

will do just fine

[tall atlas]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tKDMmYnwVbq8rQx7

wtf is going on with my dps tonight

idk what is happening

[winged sun]

ye legit impossible to r1 all dmg only r1 boss dmg with this shit raid

pad simulator with devoker

[tall atlas]

is there anything im doing wrong

i know there will be some extra teas because i macro'd it

[fast phoenix]

look at your caustic spatter dmg

vs other rogue's on M gally

[pastel roost]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[rose inlet]

pretty much every fight this tier aside from sprocket and cauldron has some mobs that die in 3 globals

[red schooner]

Gally prog is already chaos oh god

First pull, 7 people die to the first circle

This is fine

[waxen oyster]

You mean the spin?

[red schooner]

Nah, the bit before the spin

The giant circle

[waxen oyster]

im just watching boomkins

die to early pulling

its pure comedy

[past forum]

Petitioning Blizzard to make a minimum of 3 bosses per raid that insta-gib you if you pull early until boomies start pulling on 0 (or are deleted from the game)

[waxen oyster]

real

[sharp viper]

signed

[wary light]

Holy shit ik it isn't an achievement to some of the absolute GAMERS here but finally reached a 90 average log in myth this tier zz

[hexed basalt]

grats!

[wary light]

Ty for all the gamers who helped me with assa tips and ty whispyr for answering my braindead questions about pins

[autumn idol]

not a gamer

[main bridge]

get on my level scrubs

[wary light]

oof - I think next week we stop damage holding on Mug and I shouuuuld be able to get it to maybe like a 93 average

[autumn idol]

depends if you get your 2nd mark in execute or not

[wary light]

I think if we didn't hold I would yeah

[brave comet]

I'M SO VERY PROUD OF THIS

[wary light]

yeah 35%, for sure

[autumn idol]

it's multiplicative

so it's even more

[worn geyser]

you can 90 parse on mugzee doing slow\hold strat also, just gotta be ontop of every other optimization , i had to hold dps as well

waiting for fast strat to try and parse is the easiest way tho slow strat sucks

[wary light]

We are at an odd point with damage, we have to hold just as my 3rd kingsbane comes up, I was cheeky one pull and snuck into a cage just to rip it on a goon but much rather we just push

[brave comet]

ye i got my 90 parse using the hold strat

[humble verge]

hold strat?

[brave comet]

20 seconds for second gaol set

something like that

[humble verge]

hm ja

well

[wary light]

I had one pull tonight where I was at a 95 and boss was low but we wiped to over zealous soakers, so it can for sure be done holding I'd just rather full send

[humble verge]

we have too much damage and have to hold lmao

cant even use kb there

[worn geyser]

yeah thats exactly where my guild holdcs but i just rip the kb and the warlocks can deal with not chaos bolting for a lil bit

[humble verge]

since we dont do fast strat

[worn geyser]

then after kb i autoattack

[flat pier]

What build are you using for Bandit ?

[haughty flicker]

always send kb anyway

fuck holding damage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl3DgJ7e5Gg

[autumn idol]

god i hate pilav

[balmy condor]

The same as every other fight

[haughty flicker]

this clip is the only time ive ever seen or interacted with his content

[flat pier]

https://tenor.com/view/jo-jo-jjba-anime-josuke-part4-gif-21355765

[haughty flicker]

doesnt seem like the type of person i'd want to watch regularly but the clip is funny as all fuck

[autumn idol]

a) he has receding hairline
b) he's serbian
c) he's from a region that's not belgrade
d) the way he speaks serbian is irritating

oh and also he's bald

[haughty flicker]

oh i was going off his personality but i guess we can hate him for his nationality

[autumn idol]

exactly

and his hairline status

[balmy condor]

[autumn idol]

exactly

its cringe

[balmy condor]

You’re way more cringe for whatever this is

But go off

[autumn idol]

thank you

i appreciate that

[haughty flicker]

[flat pier]

[grim jay]

you are so real for that

[hidden bay]

invalid

[hidden bay]

invalid

Why dont you say something about his actual gameplay?

makes it less cringe than going for personal stuff without knowing the person

lame

[grim jay]

Tbf with what was said it is cringe either way

[hidden bay]

ofc

[grim jay]

Doesnt matter if he knows him or not

[hidden bay]

if i would know you irl, ill get at you everyday

cuz you are no red name

[grim jay]

I've always been blue

For all the years

But im usually only in here

[autumn idol]

👆

erm actually

you're wrong

it's a joke

[runic hinge]

It was not a good joke

[spice spire]

Fruity

[autumn idol]

it was not supposed to be a good joke

[spice spire]

Tell a good joke then

[runic hinge]

I hear way too many bad jokes already, from myself.

[autumn idol]

now that's a good joke

implying i've got good jokes

[slate bough]

Is Raidbots Sim for assa bugged atm? I get strange results: I do way more DPS on a training dummy than the sim says, but I'm definitely not that good...
Or am I forgetting something?

[fallow canopy]

iirc you can get more dmg on the dummy due to execute since the dummy stays in like 1 hp

[wet spire]

yeah

[slate bough]

but 600-700k difference?

[wet spire]

you are always in execute

[slate bough]

Its never been that big on my arms warri

[wet spire]

plus if you are using vanish in your rotation it bugs out details sometimes

[slate bough]

i dont for that reason

[runic hinge]

Assa does like 30% more damage in execute

[chilly marsh]

Echoing void still bugged?

[runic hinge]

So if the dummy is constantly at 1hp yeah

[raw marlin]

can i ask a question that prob gets asked 400 times and not get an answer or ping that says 'if you have to ask play 'x''

Beause i have simmed all my talent builds, bleed, hybrid, forced induction and bleed is so far ahead in every single sim, I am unsure if it is my items (I am gearing after coming back but im full hero track and some myth now) but is forced induction still simming poorly? I know the prio/reason to be playing it and im doing 99% of my keys with a pocket vdh, but my bleed talents is only 0.1% less in ST than the other builds and like 17% higher in dungeon slice.. Can someone please just explain why/when i should swap? if the prio dps build isnt even doing more prio? lol

[autumn idol]

more single target on bosses

[wet spire]

you can sim them all in st to get a "better" look at boss dmg

FI is bugged on sims i think

[raw marlin]

yh my bleed is 0.1% behind all the other builds in pure ST

[wet spire]

i mean sin ST is kind of trash

so it really isnt oo big of a deal

[autumn idol]

try playing bleed vs cleave

[autumn idol]

yeah this is true

[wet spire]

i like the bleed build because you still help time the key faster by killing trash faster

plus i like the playstyle better

[raw marlin]

it feels 'smoother'

[wet spire]

that and im weird and like managing dots

[raw marlin]

when hitting target dummies it just seems to generate way more, plus 2x vanish with pugs is >

[wet spire]

plus sudden demise is fucking busted in like 10-14

[raw marlin]

but friends are doing pretty high keys so when im geared id like to not cuck myself by never playing it now lol

[autumn idol]

try both, see how they work if you have a permanent group

there's no real "better" solution

[wet spire]

different build will perform better or worse depending on your group comp too

[autumn idol]

i dont like bleed build because in higher keys like 18s+ mobs start outliving your max combo ruptures

and my tank is a bad word so im not getting many restealths in my group

and in my personal experience, your st dps as bleed is very much bound to the timings of your dmark

[wet spire]

yeah i run bleed because it gets less cucked by chainpulling

[wet spire]

also how you manage energy in execute

[raw marlin]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/w9awiqTStQChyrM7vzMmjb

in pure ST so forced induction is 3.1% (i forgot the 3 mb)

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dTsuLtzR4pYc1QBzdgrRen

in dslice, bleed is 19% higher than forced induction lol

seems like a weird trade off

(obv im super low ilvl atm)

[autumn idol]

i mean you always save tea and in execute you should be getting ambush procs

[raw marlin]

toon is 24 hours old

[autumn idol]

emphasis on should because assassination is casino rng spec

i've gone 15 mutilates without an ambush proc so

[raw marlin]

@autumn idol are you playing forced induction then or hybrid?

[autumn idol]

forced induction is the shiv one

right

[wet spire]

forced induction isnt simming right

[autumn idol]

supercharger thingy?

[raw marlin]

yh middle path on left

[autumn idol]

yeah i an

[raw marlin]

echoing (or w.e it is now)

[autumn idol]

am*

but im also playing 19s so

[fallow canopy]

The APL for that build is not supported I think but my memory fails me

I remember a convo about it

[lusty kraken]

I finally got to mythic gallywix, what would be the best spec to prog with?

[raw marlin]

yh im just grinding low 7-12s atm but when im geared ill be jumping into 18-20s with my group

im just trying to figure out wtf im doing lol

[wet spire]

st w/cleave

[raw marlin]

been away for 7months lol

[lusty kraken]

so assa?

[wet spire]

yeah

[raw marlin]

it wasnt simming aoe

[autumn idol]

bleed build for sure in lower keys

[lusty kraken]

is there any trick I should know?

[raw marlin]

it was just getting worse the more patchworks

[fallow canopy]

oh then I don't know sorry

[raw marlin]

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/rogue-assassination/chrome-king-gallywix

[wet spire]

put rupture on the adds for energy and hit the boss

caustic will do the rest

adds will probably die so fast it will not matter anyways

[raw marlin]

yh thats what im doing but i want to try the other build for 'feel' and some muscle memory before i tank friends keys by not knowing it lol

[autumn idol]

Well

the problem with induction build

[raw marlin]

i will just play it now

[autumn idol]

you want to stick to 1 target

[wet spire]

its hard to feel the other builds in lower keys because you cant fully ramp KB

[autumn idol]

and pop everything

on that target

yojr entire spellbook

in lower keys

it just dies

before your bane reaches 8s left

[balmy condor]

Patchwerk aoe in general isn’t supported cause it’s a dumbfuck sim type that gives no usable info

The build itself is missing some optimizations in dslice as well to be fair

[wet spire]

its a long video but has some good info https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHI4tRcugME

[raw marlin]

ill play around with it

[balmy condor]

Probably not going to be able to fix it this patch but should be working again next patch

[raw marlin]

watched it all, 3 times

and @balmy condor videos like 4 times

i fall asleep to whispyr obv

[autumn idol]

hoping that blizz doesnt kill it

[raw marlin]

start of TWW whispyr 'put me to sleep' for weeks

waiting for his next update was like waiting for christmas

[balmy condor]

Trying to support all the builds in all the fight types is hell

Just can’t be done with the way the apl is setup currently

Kinda aids

[wet spire]

and to whoever asked about echoing void id assume so since the pin hasnt been updated

[balmy condor]

I love that assa has so many builds but when people demand they all sim perfectly 0.1% accuracy I want to actually choke them through my monitor

[raw marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/boat-daddy-good-time-goodtime-gif-20003786

[wet spire]

you should develope a way to do that honestly

[raw marlin]

id want my sims within 0% of each other tbh

[autumn idol]

yeah lol

just do it lol

make it work lol

[raw marlin]

I cant wait for the best '1 button build' when that releases with blizzard and takes into account the gcd

1 button theorycraft

[fallow canopy]

promise?

[wet spire]

doubtful lol atleast for anyone trying to actually do well

[balmy condor]

That at least should be easy cause the one button rota can be datamined and then just plugged into top gear

[raw marlin]

how would it take into account bleeds and tab targeting lol

does it auto swap for us too

?

[wet spire]

i cant wait for a wowhead guide on the 1 button rotation

that will be the best meme

[raw marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-crypto-cryptocurrency-bitcoin-btc-gif-9695647547378012428

https://tenor.com/view/red-button-spam-press-button-click-gif-17367381

^ meta

[balmy condor]

The one button doesn’t cast deathmark or vanish, and cannot understand anything rotationally other than the buff state of the character and the target you are currently attacking

So if you swap to something and it doesn’t have bleeds, it would adjust and bleed them

But you’d have to swap

[raw marlin]

so blizzard lied to me.. how am i meant to parse number 1 if it doesnt play the game for me, wtf.

[balmy condor]

True

[raw marlin]

i want to know how it works for healers

or tanks lol

[past forum]

it doesnt

[wet spire]

probably not well

[raw marlin]

like.. how would it even know how to pre-defensive something lol

why are blizzard even doing this at all

[past forum]

afaik it only works with damage rotations

[balmy condor]

Yeah it doesn’t heal

The one button for healer specs is a damage rotation

[main bridge]

it only does dps so no buffs, defensives, etc

[raw marlin]

so mw monk is fine

[balmy condor]

Idk but I glanced at preservation and it was like 3 lines

The assa one after updates is like 40

[wet spire]

kek

[sonic pagoda]

welp just got my reil 15s done

6 weeks of pushing keys from 0 io to above 3.3k is pretty good pace

[raw marlin]

i did it in 5 weeks 6 days

[hidden bay]

fix it man

[sonic pagoda]

but i played sub on rook and i play both outlaw and assa

[hidden bay]

[sonic pagoda]

just puggin in lfg lol

[raw marlin]

i solo'd them

[wet spire]

i dont do enough speed for outlaw

[balmy condor]

What’s there to fix

[sonic pagoda]

its ppl like you who down others accomplishments and times you should lift them up

[raw marlin]

get hekili, plug into 1 button rotation = fixed

[hidden bay]

so its using whispyr rotation

[raw marlin]

treat others how you want to be treated

i want to be put down

[balmy condor]

The one button is already impressively close

[gentle belfry]

This isn't the validation chat

[past forum]

real

[sonic pagoda]

true you right why would be talk about end game things and cheer each other on and give advice

[raw marlin]

that isnt advice

ok, i made a rogue 24 hours ago and i bought a vip boost for heroic and now im fully geared in heroic and tier and it only took me 4 hours to get into and do 10s

please suck me off

[gentle belfry]

https://discord.com/channels/113103747126747136/205710841146900480

[sonic pagoda]

well i was gonna ask other assa rogues when they started to swap off the bleed build for the hybrid build where you talent out of left side and go down mid

[gentle belfry]

🍬

[main bridge]

this isn't the fellatio chat

[raw marlin]

18s

[raw marlin]

oh.. can i get an invite?

[wet spire]

bleed build is good for a while

[main bridge]

yes it's in #subtlety

[wet spire]

and its still not bad in 18s lol

[balmy condor]

I wonder if they've started timing 20's with bleed

all 19's were timed

[sonic pagoda]

yall dont take kingsbane until 18 keys?

[balmy condor]

but I haven't checked

[sonic pagoda]

its a real question

[raw marlin]

is forced induction also just better with the meta comp though?

balance etc. with vdh 99.99% of the time

[balmy condor]

cleave is just for boss dam mostly

[hidden bay]

i dont even take kingsbane in raid

[sonic pagoda]

yeah kingsbane is a bit more prio and boss dam

[balmy condor]

prio is the same

[wet spire]

this guy lol

[raw marlin]

i only take queensbane

[hidden bay]

[sonic pagoda]

im just ere for some conversation to see where things are at becasue if i nee dboss damn and have say mm hunter uhdk in my group i just go outlaw

[raw marlin]

why would you go outlaw

[sonic pagoda]

becasue outlaw does more boss dam

[raw marlin]

but how are you meant to flex on people like that?

[wet spire]

i play bleed because my raid gear haste some haste lol

[royal lantern]

what

[wet spire]

i read outlaw as i was typing that

[raw marlin]

you edited this and made it worse

[sonic pagoda]

outlaw does like 5-6 overall in 15 keys?

[raw marlin]

haste some haste

4th times a charm

[balmy condor]

okay bleed timed a 20 darkflame, workshop, 19 everything else

not much change

[sonic pagoda]

but now im on to 16 keys so ill sill

[wet spire]

brother its been a long day

[raw marlin]

i think you need some cocain... haste yourself

[wet spire]

i need it to be 730 est so i can stab gally

[sonic pagoda]

yeah i see whysper you say bleed is timing those keys but are they in a group or its just even going to be good in lfg pugs ? idk i just want to put myself in the best position

[raw marlin]

@balmy condor how do i donate to you.. please self-link me ive watched too much on your content to not support lol or give me a charity to donate to on your behalf, ty

[balmy condor]

I mean idk if that makes a difference

[sonic pagoda]

yeah...i do see some rogues that stream running cleave or hybrid or whatever and they dont top the meters lol

[raw marlin]

they are just noobs

[sonic pagoda]

so its fuckin weird to watch them

[raw marlin]

i always top my meters

[royal lantern]

different builds for different sitations

[raw marlin]

in my 7s

[royal lantern]

people cant handle more then 1 build being good

so it immediatly turns into "THIS IS BETTER AND THE REST IS BAD AND YOU ARE WRONG" for some reason

[hidden bay]

on twitch you find an donationlink

[balmy condor]

there's a paypal donation on my twitch, but don't feel the need to donate

[sonic pagoda]

so like kingsbane would be good in top and mechagon

[wet spire]

i finish 10s-14s around 5m overall but i also doing push higher because idc about m+ anymore

[balmy condor]

just watching the content is fine

[wet spire]

and thats with bleed

[raw marlin]

whispyrttv?

[balmy condor]

ya it's linked to my discord profile can just go through that

[sonic pagoda]

thats great then your advice i cant take since im above you in now in the push lol ive played bleed and outlaw and even sub in 15 mech and 15 top and 15 rook and timed them so its like it doesnt really amtter i guess

[balmy condor]

but like idk what makes a diff between pugs and groups build wise

[raw marlin]

wait, i thought you were english your name seems german

[balmy condor]

the coordination is what times the keys

[balmy condor]

here we go again

[wet spire]

i guess lol but its the same advice that everyone gives for those keys lol

[sonic pagoda]

thats no lie the coordiation or just ppl pressing all their buttons

[royal lantern]

his parents are german and he technically is german, but grew up in the US

[sonic pagoda]

timing 15 keys with fire mage and aug with me lol

[raw marlin]

WHAT

so you in uk now?

[balmy condor]

this is a common thing dw

no I'm in california

[raw marlin]

were you ever in the uk?

[royal lantern]

aka

he is American most of the time, and German when America is dumb again

[sonic pagoda]

but like i will be timing 17 keys in 2 weeks after next week at my current pace i gain a new resil level each week

[raw marlin]

i mean being german makes sense cause he is like a wow mechanic

[balmy condor]

I mean I was in heathrow for a transfer flight to stuttgart, does that count

[raw marlin]

you didnt say hi to me

so no

[balmy condor]

rough

should've been in heathrow

[wet spire]

i mean i might start pushing again after CE but idk yet i just got burnt out lol

[sonic pagoda]

M++ season is a marathon just like CE keep at it

[raw marlin]

i subbed to you, because i dont use paypal

[balmy condor]

[raw marlin]

sorry 😦

[balmy condor]

all good I didn't expect anything in the first place

thank you

[raw marlin]

ok now make all sims 0.1% of each other

[royal lantern]

most of the time they are

[wet spire]

i did so many keys to gear for raid because i was a healer last season so i had to kind of catch up that i just play other games at this point lol

[keen spruce]

[raw marlin]

well done on hitting target, as you hit target next year we will make target harder, 0.01% of each other

[sonic pagoda]

fuckin war tank in the cindy 15 asked what spec are you the one that needs restealths or the one that does perma 10 target cleave lmao

[raw marlin]

that is a dk

[sonic pagoda]

he goes ill give you restealths lmao

[wet spire]

just play double vanish lol

[bronze pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1352795177001029654/1367948083840942150/honkhonk.gif

then that tank is ass

[raw marlin]

i queue with a friend and he tanks, he literally 'audible moans' whenever we have a mob left and he cant chain pull lol

[sonic pagoda]

im like bro i dont need resstleaths if you chain pull properly and i already have ruptures rolling do your thing lol

[wet spire]

its like .5 sec to let us restealth and they have mental breakdowns

[raw marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warcraft-world-of-warcraft-classic-rogue-rogue-pv-p-gif-18999746

[sonic pagoda]

yeah leaving one mob with 5% then running to the next pack is not chain pulling lmao

[royal lantern]

the good part

Outlaw is the spec that has the biggest drawbacks for no stealth for a long time now

:3

but facts dont matter

[sonic pagoda]

as soon as prio dies or you kill a couple casters moving then is chain pulling

[raw marlin]

when i tank

i make sure we are in combat 100% of the time

fuck rogues

pussies

[royal lantern]

good

make them learn their class

[sonic pagoda]

outlaw is pretty fun in like floodgate and priory

[wet spire]

ill just go sub and tricks the healer kek

[sonic pagoda]

and even fun in top and cinder

rookery and dfc outlaww is a nightmare

[bronze pike]

yes but vanish is a 20 second cd :)

fuck them

[sonic pagoda]

lol 18 seconds in KiR

[raw marlin]

can i ask a really seriously question, anyone into good techno/dance/edm/dubstep music and share me a playlist for my key session (ideally youtube or spotify) thank you

failing that, rock/heavy/emo can be alternatively (hehe get it) offered

[runic hinge]

[haughty flicker]

wtf

why dont i have glarf

[runic hinge]

I seent it in the Druid discord and yoiked it

[quiet oriole]

I thought outlaw didn't require re-stealths?

[sonic pagoda]

it doesnt require restealths you get them on 18 second vanish cd rate lmao and with cudgel its around 2.5%-3% overall dmg in a dungeon hes trolling

[keen spruce]

add glarf to quak

[royal lantern]

yes sure, im trolling

[main bridge]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5WXJHvCciyV94U2F6KS8qL?si=cc0b089ee3f642a4
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1E8PyMQt7H01DD?si=173857f5b56a483a

second one is more trance but you'll probably like it

[runic hinge]

I’m at work now

[keen spruce]

inv me to glarf server then

[raw marlin]

will listen 🙂

[runic hinge]

I pinged Mack to add it to WLCS

[molten willow]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4uHEcw0HN52IhgUfVudSo9?si=d3CWwfTMThio16jLovb8xQ&pi=xJqiaNrCRC2Ed

[worthy rose]

man i swear subtlety rogues just aint it alot of the time

[molten willow]

JPC mix is fire

[worthy rose]

on a 12 dfc for the memes for turboboost quest

and how is a 666 unholy dk beating a 675 subrogue

diabolical

[molten willow]

Sub feels to me imo needs a buff

[worthy rose]

for sure

[molten willow]

Backstab shouldnt exist

Gloomblade replace backstab

Give us more uptime on shadow dance cycles

[wet spire]

having to backstab in the middle of shadow dance

is actually aids

[molten willow]

Hell ye it sucks

[keen spruce]

[royal lantern]

because unholy dk does giga aoe with no cap and also does it fast

while sub doesnt really do special aoe dmg

[wet spire]

subs ST burst is wild though

[royal lantern]

yeha

but overall dmg is mostly on aoe

[molten willow]

Feels bad tho when I accidently waste the back to bacl combo points from a proc

[wet spire]

yeah and tank all of your dmg

lol

tbf sub used to be more punishing than it is now

[molten willow]

Sub feels like tou fuckup once you fucked

[worthy rose]

ah well to be fair its just a meme 12 for crest farm

nothing major

dont think anyone was really trying in that dungeon

[wet spire]

yeah because you hit like a pool noodle outside of your dance windows

[royal lantern]

thats how burst specs work, yes

[molten willow]

Pool noodle

Ibwish shuriken storm was something we just had

[wet spire]

true but i mean technically in raid sin is a burst window spec but it doesnt screw you as bad lol

[molten willow]

Instead of a talent

Also with black powdee was half its energy requirement

[wet spire]

shadowlands sub rogue was fun

[molten willow]

I actually really enjoyed sub in SL

[wet spire]

other than having to farm different stones every other week

it was great lol

or w/e those borrowed power bullshit you had to get that was nerfed and buffed every tuesday

[molten willow]

Conduit

F sl lol

Dont miss it lmao

[waxen oyster]

shadowlands was awful

dance meant nothing

it was up like half the fight

[sonic pagoda]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iJMEgQxUmVk6gQKjmyqwe4 sims tell me to take all the versa

[wet spire]

not bad at all

[raw marlin]

got stuck on tkakakakakakakaka takakakakakak takakakakakakakakakak takakakakakakak

[main bridge]

haha

[waxen oyster]

SL necrolord outlaw was peak

for the one reason it was relevant

[main bridge]

i like that Push song

[waxen oyster]

then you shifted to kyrian in s2

[solar wyvern]

floodyG 19 no lust ezclap

[wet spire]

bro top gear DS takes so fucking long lol

[waxen oyster]

and venthyr blunderbuss s3

[sonic pagoda]

yeah just waiting on a damn mythic helm drop or gloves i guess lol

[wet spire]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rF3dUGCY3BDAxEK4wuMAWm thats my bleed build lol

[sonic pagoda]

who bought the drums lol?

[solar wyvern]

melee hehe

[sonic pagoda]

good shit

[wet spire]

also run 2 focusing lense kek

[sonic pagoda]

what you mean you dont like my focusing lens for outlaw and sub specs?

[wet spire]

oh i run 2 is what i was saying

[keen spruce]

my goat

[sonic pagoda]

oh yeah same lmao

dusk or dawnthread would likely be more optimal for 1500 crit or vers but like meh whatevs

i guess ppl are saying title range will be like 3 20s and all 19s that will be rough for sure

ima shoot for all 17s for sure then jsut keep pushing but whateva

[wet spire]

yeah title is up there this season

[waxen oyster]

I mean

[wet spire]

and if they fix the shit belt it might be higher

[waxen oyster]

cutoffs normally spike

once the 2 week announcement

for a season starts

because all the premade teams

[runic hinge]

Who needs lust!

[waxen oyster]

m+ its not as bad i guess

pvp is comical how cutoffs can raise more than 500 sometimes

when the 2 week announcement drops

[sonic pagoda]

I'm accounting for the spike young one

[solar wyvern]

idek if thats true, 19s are legit difficult for a lot of title players, at least on NA. maybe resilient allows it but idk

[waxen oyster]

pugging title legit sounds

awful

and not rewarding at all

[sonic pagoda]

i think you can do 20 ML, 20 DFC, then maybe (rook. mech, top_) but yeah 19s and 20s are legit difficult wall for healers and dmg checks for sure

[solar wyvern]

aint no way people are casually doing 20 rookery

that timer is no joke

[sonic pagoda]

yeah its not bad been watching some of my boys play phys comp in it though and i think its doable but pugging yeah im probably f'ed unless i find a group to push with in the next month

I feel like phys comp just shreds on TOP with the triple skip and just slaughtering all the trash befure kul'thurak

[molten willow]

Do yall feel like timers are too tight

[waxen oyster]

No

At the highest levels damage checks should matter.

[spice surge]

Kind of the opposite ngl

But you can just play higher levels and eventually it starts to matter

So its fine

[molten willow]

Im just meh lmao

[waxen oyster]

title range keys means the literal 0.1% of the pop

or was it less

[molten willow]

I can live without title

[waxen oyster]

you should not be capped out at green parsing damage and eligible

imo

[spice surge]

Even if you 3 phase the boy (which is fucking rough) its still tight ye

[molten willow]

Im at a 13s wall

[spice surge]

You need pretty fucking specific classes to be able to do that, so most are gonna be forced to 4 phase it

[molten willow]

Ive got 3 13s but

[coral ibex]

there's a lot of space between "stuck at 13s" and title

[molten willow]

Yeah

[waxen oyster]

A fucking canyon

tbh

[molten willow]

Id like to get to at least 16s before season over

[waxen oyster]

i saw a 3k dk not know

how to use his rez

though

so….

[molten willow]

Well thats pretty bad ye

[inland escarp]

3k is free with the gear we have at this point

[waxen oyster]

yeah

[molten willow]

I was 3k when I was 665

But now im stuck

Ppl picking 680 over 675

[wet spire]

i accidentally got 3100ish lol

3092 lol

[molten willow]

This season is the highest i pushed ever

[wet spire]

i usually push to 3k then burn out on keys lol

[molten willow]

Pugging is just painfuk

Full'

[waxen oyster]

Yeah I mean

[molten willow]

Cool logo btw

[waxen oyster]

everyone’s super geared now

[wet spire]

me? lol

[molten willow]

Have you been stuck at a wall before Xiani

[waxen oyster]

No I play for vault

[wet spire]

i wish i could say its mine but its the rogue gaming logo haha

[waxen oyster]

unless my friends drag me into something higher

[molten willow]

Ah okok just wondering Im literally declined all the time so I dont really know what to do

[waxen oyster]

Make friends

[haughty flicker]

be serious

[waxen oyster]

rogue is not low pug key friendly

never has been tbh

[wet spire]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_(esports)

[waxen oyster]

They’ll take an unholy dk who barely knows how to spam vamp strike during DT

over you

[royal lantern]

based

needing a CR = people fail

dont support failures

[waxen oyster]

I mean the guy was doing like 2m overall

[runic inlet]

Does lfr give you boss rep?

[waxen oyster]

not exactly pressing buttons

[royal lantern]

yes

[waxen oyster]

Assuming you havent killed the boss this week yes

[royal lantern]

gally + 3 other LFR bosses = rank up

[runic inlet]

word ty

[waxen oyster]

Any boss you killed before the hotfix you’re fucked

for this week

[runic inlet]

i was gone yesterday lel (am NA)

so worked out for me ig

[waxen oyster]

Oh ok

[wet spire]

you can do it on an alt

[royal lantern]

NA beta testing for the real servers once again

[runic inlet]

always have been

[waxen oyster]

its rep once per boss across all difficulties

but yeah allegedly bugged for na unemployeds/wfh

who did it early

[normal mist]

Homies I'm going to sleep, wish me a good night please

[wet spire]

good luck

[waxen oyster]

gn

[runic hinge]

Gn

[worthy rose]

real homies tuck each other in at night

[spice spire]

Real homies kiss you gn

[past forum]

real homies snuggle u thru the nite so bed bugs cant bite

[thorn thorn]

@fallow canopy
@rotund oak

[fallow canopy]

gn

[fallow canopy]

[agile kestrel]

do we have an evasion spreadsheet somewhere?

[thorn thorn]

Pretty common occurence

And not just with DKs

[waxen oyster]

Yep...

Never seen a mage in 12 or below keys that knows how to do damage

[thorn thorn]

The greatest insult you can give to someone is hoping their favorite spec is meta

So they have to watch a bunch of fotm animals try and play it

[balmy condor]

[thorn thorn]

Have you not recovered from S1

[balmy condor]

brother I haven't recovered from S3 dragonflight

[thorn thorn]

Wait

Do you mean from the rework or from the fotm rerollers

[balmy condor]

imagine they gave us caustic spatter, and half the community was like "so do we spam crimson tempest or no"

and the other half of the community was like "y'all are talented into crimson tempest?"

agony

[thorn thorn]

And then whispyr had to explain on the daily that shiv on main doesnt increase spatter damage

A terrible era

[balmy condor]

the terrible era of....

last week?

[thorn thorn]

Yup, we are still experiencing it

[runic hinge]

I didn’t realize shiv didn’t increase spatter til like halfway through s1

[nimble tartan]

guys i got a 99 on stix i think they should put it back on allstars thats just me though

[waxen oyster]

But what helm enchant do i play

[thorn thorn]

Are pins updated

[waxen oyster]

Survival hunters in sepulcher

[fallow canopy]

should I keep cyrce? the wowhead guides say its a 700 ring but random ring I got from vault its better

[waxen oyster]

Should i play no garrote build

[thorn thorn]

Wowhead shows no KB build but all top rogues running KB build, why ???

[fallow canopy]

yes how do you know I use archon

[thorn thorn]

What if I use murlok

[fallow canopy]

mgrlllmgrlrrr ig

[sonic pagoda]

thats a difficult decision what if i use archon and murlok export?

and i just gear as the top 50 mythic plussers gear?

what if i just play the game and see what happens?

[thorn thorn]

What if im just a sigma feelsmaxing player but the trad simsimp keeps telling me to use the robot to tell me how to play, what do???

[waxen oyster]

idk why people are so opposed to raidbots

yet will chatgpt the most useless shit

[thorn thorn]

I actually just dont sim cuz I suffer from chronic laziness

I just let Whispyr tell me what gear and enchants are good

[waxen oyster]

just equip bigger number

for assa thats mostly right

[thorn thorn]

yeppers

Bigger number gooder

[thorn thorn]

Wait do people actually chatgpt shit for wow

[waxen oyster]

Well the google ai assistant

can answer wow shit

faster than asking in here

[thorn thorn]

[waxen oyster]

98% of the time

if i type into google “when does the delve belt come out”

[thorn thorn]

What if you google "is delve belt good for assassination rogue"

[waxen oyster]

No

[runic hinge]

Can I google the pins

[thorn thorn]

The answer it gives is inconclusive at best

And unhelpful at worst

[waxen oyster]

Make a new ai

called whispyrgpt

[thorn thorn]

"Whispyr what poisons do I use with DTB"

"Have you read the fucking talents"

Yea pretty good idea actually

[nimble tartan]

whispyrgpt turn on voice mod and countdown for me slowly

[thorn thorn]

🤨

[humble verge]

@balmy condor do you know where the old 1button sim you did was

i wanted to see how bad it was again

[thorn thorn]

60%+

[balmy condor]

doesn't matter

they fixed it

[thorn thorn]

Poggers

[thorn thorn]

Can we turn you into a google ai assistant

But let moroes answer the questions

[runic hinge]

Can they fix me

[drowsy ivy]

So like

I just swapped from outlaw to sin in raid

and I don't have mutilate

it's just gone

[main bridge]

sin is over for you

[thorn thorn]

rip bozo

In all seriousness tho does unstealthing transform that Ambush into mutilate

[coral ibex]

scroll back 1 page

[bronze pike]

i should check on mine

[drowsy ivy]

nope, that's how I learned I didn't have mutilate

started the pull

ambush - tried to mutilate - got no combo points - thought I was getting parried - realized my fate was much worse

[thorn thorn]

Why are there 2 ambushes

[main bridge]

Jakk cooking new build that only ambushes

[thorn thorn]

One of them has to transform into mutilate

[drowsy ivy]

It does not

They are both ambush

[coral ibex]

do you have 2 daggers equipped

[fallow canopy]

Game is trying to tell you something

[drowsy ivy]

I had to play outlaw on sprocket

[warm shard]

can rogues make it back on to the platform if they do mythic gally bombs?

[thorn thorn]

And you checked that they both stay as ambush while not stealthed correct

[drowsy ivy]

Yes 100%

[thorn thorn]

Is mutilate on your bars and just grayed out or something

[drowsy ivy]

nope

[coral ibex]

show bars

[drowsy ivy]

The mutilate that was there is now ambush

[coral ibex]

out of stealth

[thorn thorn]

Mayhaps swap to outlaw then back to sin then

[drowsy ivy]

tried that

didn't work

[runic hinge]

Swap to sub

[coral ibex]

make a macro with #showtooltip Mutilate /cast Mutilate

put it on your bars

what does it do

[drowsy ivy]

LMFAOOOOOO

[coral ibex]

you're bricked

gg

[drowsy ivy]

ty blizz

[fallow canopy]

gg

[thorn thorn]

gg

Its jover for you

Last option is to restart or reload

If no work then your character is bricked

L

[drowsy ivy]

Going sub and back did not work

Restart time I guess

[spice surge]

You likely swapped out of assa with blindside up, it can bug out

[drowsy ivy]

Restart did not work

uh

[spice surge]

Possibly the same with the outlaw proc that turns it into ambush

[drowsy ivy]

does my character just exist not able to play sin now

[rotund oak]

[main bridge]

you're an outlaw main now

[drowsy ivy]

[spice surge]

So should just be swapping to outlaw and back

[drowsy ivy]

I tried

Been doing bosses as outlaw and swapping to sin after

to see if it fixed

[main bridge]

the macro didn't work either?

[drowsy ivy]

nope

[main bridge]

crazy

[hollow river]

try swapping talent builds off blindside

then change spec back and forth

if that doesn't work idunno ur bricked af

[rotund oak]

icon ids might block the action,can happen

[hollow river]

[rotund oak]

if u are using the same icon on another macro or somewhere in your UI that is

[rotund oak]

frost DK is fun

😂

[drowsy ivy]

this worked

i am free

Ty blindside very cool

[hollow river]

[magic ginkgo]

is there a good garrote/rupture macro that also if not hovering anything will apply the bleed to main target?

[sonic pagoda]

/stopcasting
/cast [@mouseover,nomod,exists] Rejuvenation; [@mouseover,exists,mod:ctrl] Cyclone; [@mouseover,exists,mod:shift] Nature's Cure

insert spell names at your leisure

maybe have to add a /cast{@target,nomod,esixts}

or just shift tab to come back to your prio target

why would you ever bee off your prio target if you are using bleed macroes?

im assuming you would want/need focus target macroes as well?

[magic ginkgo]

so when i cast a normal mouse over

it doesnt work on my main target

it only casts where cursor is

i want to be on main target and toss a rupture on another target without clicking on them

[sonic pagoda]

@mouseover is doesnt change your target

[magic ginkgo]

but it says "you do not have a target" if im not mousing over my main target that im targetting

[sonic pagoda]

i think you underestimate the amount of keybinds you are going to have to use or create to what you are asking

do you have sticky targeting enabled?

[magic ginkgo]

Either im explaining this wrong or you're confused. Either way, ill figure it out

[sonic pagoda]

either way i gave you information on how create macroes

you need a regualr keybiund for rupture and garrote and then a seperate keybind for mousoever in most cases i have a good mouseover kick macroe on my mage hole up ill get it for you just insert spell of choice

[magic ginkgo]

oh okay, i thought it could be combined into one button

that makes a lot more sense

[sonic pagoda]

it can be combined into one button hold up i got you

#showtooltip Counterspell
/cast [@mouseover,harm][@focus,harm][harm] Counterspell

[marsh ferry]

[@mouseover,harm,nodead][]

[sonic pagoda]

so just replace counterspell with rupture or garrote and let me know if that works

[magic ginkgo]

I appreciate it! That'll be really helpful

[marsh ferry]

If you’re curious what [] means it means the following are equivalent:
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead] Rupture; Rupture
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead][]Rupture

[sonic pagoda]

you are welcome. XD some of us use to play classes like druid when i had 53 keybinds so some condensing is necessary lmao

[magic ginkgo]

53 keybinds sounds hilarious

[sonic pagoda]

well if you add focus targets 123 and target arena 123 and focus casts of all your cc's and shit lol and mousoever for heals in arena lol its gets to be a lot rofl

Aint no body got time to click lol keybinds for the win macroes for the win

[restive glade]

for immune soak on myth mugzee, cloak is what makes you immune to it right? its correct to pop it before it comes out or wait?

[green dragon]

Yep. Pop before.

[restive glade]

thx chef

[rotund oak]

can confirm this,ive had alot of my stuff into mod macros,saved alot of space

outside arena 1,2,3 for sap,blind,alot of binds

[quiet oriole]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6WzRg1sS4K9nzdEynVtdBs

[sonic pagoda]

oh yeah and then the sap macroe and all the gouge macroes lmao

[rotund oak]

that was focus

[quiet oriole]

am i simming this correctly. Showing HoC a dps loss vs signet

[sonic pagoda]

generally pvp made me a better player pve has a script pvp has no script

[rotund oak]

arena u always kick/gouge stun from focus

that way u are unpredictable

if ppl use target of target they can anticipate what u do

that eliminates that

[sonic pagoda]

or just arena 123 also lmao if your focus is to far and you are too lazy to swap your focus hahahaa

[sonic pagoda]

had all the macroes

[rotund oak]

its exhausting if u wanna minmax and try to control everything but it is what it is.Rogue was never easy.. focus step kick/ks/gouge and sprint back all that jazz

[spice surge]

Signet and hoc are the same, use whatever you have at the highest ilvl

[runic hinge]

[spice surge]

Glarf goes hard

[sonic pagoda]

yeah it was so fun tho....also war macroes were fun with war banner and intervene just slotting your temmates name in the macroes

#showtooltip mortal strike
/cast mortal strike
/focus arena3
/taunt [@arenapet1]
/taunt [@arenapet2]
/taunt [@arenapet3]

best believe im taunting those pesky hunter pets and killing them lmao

[rotund oak]

thats a classic

[quiet oriole]

I have hero for both I just thought HoC was better for some reason

[thorn thorn]

This emoji is excellent

10/10

[sonic pagoda]

/run q=C_PetJournal;v={q.GetNumPets()}r=random(v[2])p={q.GetPetInfoByIndex(r)}q.SummonPetByGUID(p[1])SendChatMessage("spins the Wheel O' Pets! The wheel stops on ["..r.."/"..v[2].."]: "..p[8].."!","em

this one will summon a random pet every time you press it lmao

[thorn thorn]

I cant believe you are spreading misinformation on the internet

[molten willow]

What are your thoughts on Frost DK

[rotund oak]

malicious in a way

[molten willow]

what you like about it I think its cool myself I have a dk mainly play unholy

or is that cap

[rotund oak]

frost in pvp is very solid btw