assassination

[nova kelp]

MAAAAAAAAAAAAATE some raindow smugglers would be sick asf

[hoary moon]

Tony Abbott wearing them as a PR stunt would be hilarious lmao

[nova kelp]

should be required dress - it might somehow give some of them more credibility

[coral ibex]

life pull on mugzee for my guild

only a 98 fugma

needed boss to live another 20 secs

died as my dm came up

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nWLM4qv9hwZcJBD1?fight=last&type=damage-done

[balmy condor]

[coral ibex]

dude the damage variance rng on that fight

sucks so bad

i hate it

if you are blindside unlucky its just gg

[haughty flicker]

[coral ibex]

but also whoever said evasion the phys side of the intermission

firm handshake to you

made it very comfy for my intermission dm

[balmy condor]

we had a clean kill today

[runic hinge]

Clean

[haughty flicker]

ive actually been playing sub on prog

idk why but im doing way better than on assa

[balmy condor]

I'm sure you have mr boomkin

[haughty flicker]

huge parse soon

[haughty flicker]

it was one time 😦

besides im a mw main now

[balmy condor]

boomkin, mistweaver, bowmaster

how cringe can one man be

[haughty flicker]

wtf

[coral ibex]

bowmaster?

is this a bm slur

[balmy condor]

no it's a maplestory slur

bro presses his two minute cds and then holds down a button and that's his entire rotation

[haughty flicker]

i put down a little turret too

[balmy condor]

true

[snow hamlet]

Nice vanish

[thorny rain]

is it better to marco tea with shiv and just send it during your burst in ST or just leave tea off completely and let it proc by itself when youre low?

[subtle tundra]

i like the gay daggers we have in the rh icon

[balmy condor]

you macro to shiv and then forget tea is a thing entirely

just remove it from your wa's or whatever if the auto proc bothers you

[balmy condor]

I like you too, weird gay twink who lives in my phone

[thorny rain]

i dont look at it like I dont look at S&D anymore

[balmy condor]

yep

[subtle tundra]

i live in your pc too dont worry ive infected you

[waxen oyster]

Ok just over 5mins is beyond cursed

For this boss killtime wise

[sick scarab]

guys echoing void still bugged ?

[jaunty lotus]

Not sure, go test it?

[sick scarab]

it sims better but pins say to avoid

[jaunty lotus]

Yeah I don't think they would update the pin if they had new information

Maybe you should go and test it yourself, report back the results

[unreal imp]

Noticed something curious - auto-procced Thistle Tea doesn't seem to count as a cast, right?

[balmy condor]

count as a cast in what regard

[waxen oyster]

whisypr the speedkill strat is so cursed

for sin timings

[balmy condor]

yepge

[desert cove]

yeah just did it tonight

[waxen oyster]

I get 3 sets of dm

and no final kb

[desert cove]

was big cheeks

[waxen oyster]

ofc we wipe any pull i get big blindsides

for the first minute

[desert cove]

same bestie

[waxen oyster]

Well still orange but

feel coulda been bettwr

[desert cove]

I got an 80 for ilvl at 675 on my first kill tonight

so I'm pretty happy about that

[waxen oyster]

Probably good for having less gear yeah

[desert cove]

my goal for first kill is blue to purple

anything higher than that is just icing on the cake

[waxen oyster]

crazy to think just 3 weeks ago 674 was extremely high

then they said fuck it lets add another 6 ilvl overall

[desert cove]

so this semester I had a weird schedule so I couldn't really raid, so I was on average like ~3 to 5 ilvl behind others that were getting raid loot

when the turbo boost happened I ended up almost ~20 ilvl behind

🙂

[waxen oyster]

In all honesty, raid doesnt seem a good source of loot

[desert cove]

b/c that started right near finals season as well

yeah I was able to keep up b/c I kept doing m+ when I could

[waxen oyster]

oh i get it, just funny when i look at my gear

and like, one item is from raid

its just funny to think how in retrospect if i didnt raid this season

i would only be behind like 1 ilvl

due to m+ vault

[unreal imp]

On Warcraft Logs under the casts tab. If you look at buffs it'll show tea procs, but seemingly auto-procced tea doesn't count as a "cast".

The reason I mention is because otherwise I suspect something maybe funky with the Shiv/Tea macro between frame drops and/or spell queue cvar because my tea "casts" are about 50% of comparable logs in the couple instances I was looking at tonight.

Like it just won't actually trigger if you're (CPU) lagging which is already sometimes the case for me with e.g. envenoms anyway in high intensity moments.

[silk sundial]

Is eye of kezan good for M gally prog? Starting week 2 of gally prog. Just got kezan. I already have M Pace and M HoC. The sim kinda wants me to recraft the neck for crit if i drop pacemaker. It would probably be a little lacking it p1 but really come ahead in p3 execute range. 8 minute sim https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jzLfgwZkpcyhLee4kGHgNZ

[subtle tundra]

you dont care that it does a bit less p1

its the end number that matters

[warm lantern]

what's generally considered highest value for m gally prog now? seems sin is most played but sub is stronger in p1 which is harder?? ( i understand it doesnt really matter but still wanna make sure)

[solar wyvern]

Whatever you're better on tbh, they both do good boss dps

[subtle tundra]

whichever you can play and not die

[solar wyvern]

If you raid team for some god forsaken reason cannot soothe, then ig aoe soothe is nice

[waxen oyster]

How much does it matter

i heard it kind of aligns with dry shivs?

[subtle tundra]

soothes are important

[silk sundial]

Also have this one, new neck, new ring to replace cyrces, eye of kezan 8 minute sim. Ignore all the gems, forgot to deselect. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jDVckXXERZyLNnjkdfstSu

If eye sims higher, i go with eye though?

As for shivs, they have been lining up with the adds for me.

[junior axle]

question, i see that some of the top m+ people are starting to run kingsbane in m+, when do u want to play with that build vs what most people are running?

[runic hinge]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[runic hinge]

Bleed has timed all keys at least to 19’s so don’t feel like you’re obligated to switch

[warm lantern]

at this point i feel pmuch equal on them both, but more geared towards sin

[warm lantern]

as in sin aoe shiv? i assume

[balmy condor]

yes auto procs do not count as casts in wcl

[slow tulip]

hey, we are at gallywix - should i stick with void ritual or gushing ? thx in advance

[subtle tundra]

🤨 😭

[runic hinge]

They probably both do 2% and it doesn’t matter

[slow tulip]

thank you

[native turret]

i got rank 39 on mugzee tonight on our reclear

(playing outlaw)

inb4 someone says out of 40 people

[slow tulip]

are they 50 now ?

[subtle tundra]

out of 45

[slow tulip]

[orchid pewter]

Play whatever honestly, if you are below 12 go bleed, if not play whatever

I play the cleave one in weekly 10s just because and i still blast

[worldly night]

is depths or radiant better for raid?

[native turret]

It's over 120 now dick heads 🤣

I didn't start using hybrid/cleave until 17s. If your group needs the ST on anything below that and isn't Rookery, your comp is cooked.

[junior axle]

im working on 14s and 15s, so bleed would be better for now until 17s?

Unless im in a rook

[native turret]

Yeah I believe so

Bleed is insane in aoe

I did a couple 17s as bleed too but tank pulled around me pretty well and always let me funnel into bosses

[orchid pewter]

Try them all imo

I feel like aoe is never a problem

[grim jay]

[orchid pewter]

What does garf mean btw? I'm out of the loop

[royal lantern]

[red schooner]

[runic hinge]

[golden loom]

Big is just chillin dw about it

[orchid pewter]

I see

[hearty seal]

so how bad is putting out like 3.3 mil overall in most 12-13 keys, maybe 3.6-3.7 in priory using bleed in 675 gear?
can't shake the feeling that I suck ass, can rarely get over 10 mil DPS even on large-ish (like 8+ targets) packs

it's enough to clear but I regularly see other classes (mostly rets, some UDKs) doing way better, up to 4 mil sometimes

[static glacier]

That's lower than id expect

you can do 6m+ in some keys

[hearty seal]

never seen anyone do more than 4.2 tbh

[grim jay]

You should specify if you mean details or wcl

[subtle tundra]

[hearty seal]

details, ye

[subtle tundra]

yeah your dps kinda ass

i had 4mil overall in week 2 of the patch in priory without gearing my char...

[static glacier]

sin on overall is unhinged tbh

we blast all aoe every pack

[hearty seal]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cy8GNjbvDWnB96YM?fight=2&type=damage-done&source=144
here's a recent log I guess

[grim jay]

There were quite some people posting 5m+ overalls, so its definitely more common

[static glacier]

you need to rupture more

on big pulls

4 ruptures on 1st pull priory is too low for bleed build

[golden loom]

Think latest priory 13 I did was like 5,8m overall and was kind of a shitshow

[random gust]

Hi guys should I be still using bleed build for 10~12 Theater of Pain ?

[bronze plover]

hey i read ping before when i sim it tells me that use echoing void instead of gushing or void ritual is there any new hotfix for echoing or sim is wrong?

[static glacier]

hybrid and cleave builds wont rupture that many times

[golden loom]

Yes

[random gust]

thanks !

[grim jay]

Its bugged ingame

Not on sims

It kinda says so in the pin

[bronze plover]

so gushing and void is still best options

[golden loom]

Forced induction bleed is weird

[bronze plover]

?

[golden loom]

Just play double vanish

[grim jay]

It says whats best in the pin aswell

[golden loom]

Also master assassin instead of the weird poison talent in the middle

[grim jay]

Dont call it weird

[golden loom]

It is weird tho (in bleed!)

[grim jay]

Its... Special

[snow hamlet]

[hearty seal]

tried it a few times, it was somehow uncomfortable
felt like I spend 10 seconds before any damage actually starts going

[grim jay]

You do the same

With or without 2 vanish

You just have easier reapplications every now and then

[golden loom]

I mean playing bleed without subterfuege is gonna be very awful

[normal mist]

Amen to subterfuge

[tropic jewel]

i can finally get rid of that circlet ring

[golden loom]

Like the low key version of bleed that takes FI drops Tea, not subterfuege

[tropic jewel]

i cant believe it

[normal mist]

Gj man

Amen to that too

[hearty seal]

IIRC it sims like 5k below the 684 bis? (not counting Jastor lmao)

[buoyant herald]

I replaced it with 681 crafted but around there yeah

[buoyant herald]

Sometimes earlier depending on gear

[subtle tundra]

what am i reading, forced induction over subteruge?

did you look at builds, take whatever you like from each and made one yourself?

[hearty seal]

ah well
might have to try again then
the way I figured, I could do the Wowhead opener without subterfuge and end up with 5-7 garrotes/ruptures spread around at max duration regardless

[tropic jewel]

i mean i could also get my hands on mythic galli ring

[grim jay]

People are just happy to replace circlet for the sake of replacing it.

[golden loom]

Yeah but as bleed you also want a lot of garottes out

[static glacier]

just run subt man

bleed build without ma sounds so illegal

[red schooner]

Binning off the belt next season first chance I get

Fuck the belt

I hate it already

[grim jay]

Subt also gives you more crit rate and you spread bleeds to most things on bleed

[ruby quail]

Hi, excuse me why I can't transmog my two daggers into the legendary daggers Tirosh and Golad? It only lets me transmog my off-hand. The main hand looks like any other dagger. :C

[grim jay]

I literally couldnt care less. Its atleast one slot with less bad rng

[sudden brook]

Because each dagger has their own name so

U might be looking up the same name?

[runic hinge]

make sure you're picking the correct one for each hand

[sudden brook]

Yer

Each knife is flagged as a main hand or offhand

[hidden dust]

Is it normal sims still put Circe ring upfront any 684 ring for assa bleed? like 200 k dps in m+ scenario...

[runic hinge]

jsut fyi this is the difference in the sim between your talents and the normal bleed talents, I even have IW in my build so you could add 2% more if you drop it for double shiv

[grim jay]

Can depend a whole lot on your stats if you run signet

[hidden dust]

Yes, running signet

[grim jay]

And iirc dslice majorly favors mastery, so if you try to replace it with smth without

[grim jay]

Then you need to keep an eye out for mastery relative to crit

Which might just not end up the right way without the ton of mastery circlet adds

[hidden dust]

ok, I understand

ty

[normal mist]

You're welcome homie

[quiet oar]

I keep my eyes always on you

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-hart-kevin-hart-damn-gif-22709278

[grim jay]

Wish you would double down and put your hands on me.

[quiet oar]

You would act like superglie in that case

Because i couldnt take my Hand off you

[normal mist]

I guess I'll go down a few channels. I'm clearly in the middle of something

[atomic creek]

Always fun when Indiscriminate Carnage doesn't work properly in the new content. It constantly gets removed before it should in Dastardly Duos

[brave comet]

in raids, should i be shivving when adds spawn for extra damage on adds or is that a waste of time?

[normal mist]

Reminder that they delayed it so they had more time to cook

[runic hinge]

Oh it’s cooked

I had no idea what was happening

[brave comet]

and also i'm dropping combo points so im trying to finish at 7 for darkest night

and out of no where it goes fucking down below so i wasted my points and energy

[jaunty kayak]

does cloak/evasion work for popping mines on mugzee myth?

[brave comet]

cloaks i think does work

are you being told to pop the last two mines in the last phase?

[jaunty kayak]

just speculating as a last resort for rekill

[sharp viper]

there is some very weird shenanigans where you can just dodge all damage from mines

I wish I understood how

[hidden bay]

@balmy condor how many bosses did you kill

[balmy condor]

vexie -> skip to mug, kill, gally kill -> back to cauldron -> kill rik -> end of night

[hidden bay]

You killed gally with all new people

[brave comet]

pressing the garrote button twice is or isnt enough?

[nova kelp]

we gota do a full reclear for people to get some kills they want / "need"

[balmy condor]

yah new trials are very good

our mage trial has 0 gally experience and just ripped bomb 4 first try

[heady drum]

evasion should work as long as youre facing the front of the bomb when running into it

[indigo mulch]

Are we getting the belt this week or is it next week? D:

[hidden bay]

Next

[indigo mulch]

[red schooner]

Just when I think I've gained the ability to raid log, the game keeps pulling me back in

[nova kelp]

ngl, if a mage joined our group and just casually rocked out like this with his dick out, I'd be pretty excited
rigid even

[jaunty kayak]

uuu this sounds interesting, thanks🙏

[indigo mulch]

Oh i effed up last week lmao

I forgot to turn in the stupid quest so now i have to wait another week for the cartel coins i guess :C

[balmy condor]

aren't dinars so fun

[indigo mulch]

Thats what happens when your a filthy raid logger i guess.

😄

I'm guessing there is no catchup mechanic or anyhting like that right?

[nova kelp]

WOAH I feel attacked

[worn geyser]

not yet nah no catchup

idk if they couldve designed a more mid ‘bad luck protection’ system ngl

[indigo mulch]

I mean i'm the only one to blame, but what if you had to like work for a week so you couldn't login and play D:

[hardy dagger]

Same forgot to turn in last weeks quest

This shit is so fuckin ass

[rotund oak]

sry but i laughed so hard on this

[hardy dagger]

Still stuck with my fucking 671 signet

[rotund oak]

i just crafted a crit/mast ring

cursed mastery

crit/mast gem

[indigo mulch]

saaame, no house of cards for me :C

[rotund oak]

just perfect

[grim jay]

You can just join in on the fun

Before you are too busy Mr Dad

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-felicia-hiding-humiliated-leave-me-alone-girl-bye-gif-21567771

[eager bridge]

Is there something i don't understand with scent of blood ? After i deathmark my deathmark target rupture doesn't give me stacks anymore even if it still has a rupture active on it

[rotund oak]

[normal mist]

Can we get a screenshot of the situation?

[grim jay]

Kinda unclear what you mean

[eager bridge]

sure let me cook

[grim jay]

Scent has nothing to do with DM

[normal mist]

What should happen is: every rupture up to five gives you a stack of scent

[sharp viper]

[normal mist]

[eager bridge]

here i just dm, rupture is up, my wa says 0, and i don't have any stacks on my aura bars as well

[normal mist]

This will be a stupid ass question but I gotta ask

Do you have scent of blood talented

[eager bridge]

Yes i do, i get stacks if i reapply, and got stacks before my dm faded

[normal mist]

Weird actually. What happens if you bleed like 3 targets and then DM 1

[eager bridge]

let me check on the 5 dummies, brb

[rotund oak]

maybe its a training dummy bug

those exist

but im not aware

[normal mist]

Me neither

[rotund oak]

know some frost mage ones though

but its weird,i cant even see scent stacks here

[eager bridge]

on the 5 dummies, i lose 1 (or 4 out of 20 idk how you count lol) after dm ends

[rotund oak]

!bug

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Bug tracker: https://github.com/SimCMinMax/WoW-BugTracker/labels/Rogue

[eager bridge]

i wasn't quick enough to screen tho

[rotund oak]

think its time to tag the bigman

or am i gonna get nuked

[golden loom]

Well you should lose 1 when DM ends

[normal mist]

He's losing both

He dms - loses both stacks

[golden loom]

Yeah weird

[eager bridge]

wait should i have 2 stacks inside dm ?

[golden loom]

Yeah

[normal mist]

On dummies - this might be important

[eager bridge]

hmm

[golden loom]

Cause rupture is duplicated

[eager bridge]

i don't think i have that let me check xD

[rotund oak]

@balmy condor yo brotherman,we might have a target dummy Scent of Blood stacks bug in our hands here

[normal mist]

Clik do yourself a favor: go kill the world boss

[golden loom]

Or wait I think it works like that

[normal mist]

And check it there

Might be dummies bad interactions

[balmy condor]

when deathmark expires, the duplicated rupture drops and that removes the scent of blood stack that you didn't actually ever get from the deathmark rupture, so you just go -1 stack of scent

it's a known bug

that's been that way all expansion

nothing to see here

[eager bridge]

👍

[normal mist]

#assassination message

[balmy condor]

#assassination message

[royal lantern]

well, now i know about it

[golden loom]

Same

[rotund oak]

had no idea

[normal mist]

I never knew xD

[rotund oak]

[normal mist]

The weird thing is going to 0 with a rupture on the target, didn't know about it

[rotund oak]

yup no visible scent stacks at all

[golden loom]

Does it get fixed by reapplying rupture

[normal mist]

I believe so

[balmy condor]

deathmark doesn't give you a stack of scent because it's "per target affected"

but when deathmark expires

rupture drops

and rupture dropping triggers scent stack removal

[humble verge]

cape bonanza

[balmy condor]

so you lose the stack that the original rupture gave

once you rupture again you obviously just cast a regular rupture and you get the stack back

[normal mist]

Thanks whispyr, the more we know

[rotund oak]

ild relief you from that wpn if u dotn mind but ye,cape angle

[humble verge]

ive already got it

the raid cape has speed on it

we win these

[rotund oak]

huge

yup

[subtle tundra]

damn guys how did you not know about the scent bug

i dont even play the game

[grim jay]

You can play with DN

I only knew that DM wont give you 2 stacks

[subtle tundra]

ok

[thick forge]

Why its rainbow icon on this server

[golden loom]

Why not

[normal mist]

It's men's health month and pride month

[lyric gate]

character is blessed

[thick forge]

Because its game oriented discord, should it be politicized

[golden loom]

It aint that deep

[normal mist]

Yeah why are you thinking about it

Holy

[thick forge]

It looks like

[normal mist]

It's a fucking rainbow

[golden loom]

Idk if sexuality is politics either but

[red schooner]

It's just a rainbow, pretend the daggers are covered in weapon oil or something if you don't like it idk

[burnt juniper]

this comment on the MDI video sums up this entire season perfectly

[red schooner]

It's not a big deal

[gloomy heart]

GO AWAY

[thick forge]

Im just curious tbh

[gloomy heart]

curiosity can stay in your head

[normal mist]

I just answered

It's pride month and class discorda thought it would be cool and funny to just add the rainbows

Ain't hurting anyone

[lyric gate]

what is pride month

[normal mist]

A month I think about myself

[thick forge]

Just like pride month or other things on topic oriented discord xd

[golden loom]

June

[normal mist]

I proud of myself

[gloomy heart]

shoo

[lyric gate]

i mean what is it

lol

[gloomy heart]

be gone

[lyric gate]

ah for gay sexuality

who cares lol i have no issues

[red schooner]

It's a server icon, just wind your neck in

[normal mist]

Neither do i

Yet a lot of people had stuff to complain about yesterday

[gloomy heart]

guys who loves fire mages

[thick forge]

I dont care too, just asked and got answer

[red schooner]

Given the amount of flirting that goes on in this discord the fucking server icon is the least of your worries

[normal mist]

Yeah it's nothing big, it's just what it is

[lyric gate]

bro gays were always nice to m,e in my life even im 100% hetero nothing to complain about them

[normal mist]

TRUEEEEEEE

Besides

The more gay guys there are

[thick forge]

Where hetero day

[normal mist]

The more woman there are for the rest of us

Right

Right?!

(I'm married I should not say this)

[golden loom]

Yeah thats working out well for me

[lyric gate]

xd

[gloomy heart]

no1? …. but

[golden loom]

[hollow dirge]

i think people think with this same logic about gamers 😄

[lyric gate]

its right logic

i was working for a gay couple few years ago

and all the girls there

went home with me

xd

[normal mist]

DAMN

Based

[normal mist]

They are starting to notice us man, we're becoming the "right choice"!!!

[rich field]

what Embellishments are best used for pushing "high" (16+) M+'s?

[normal mist]

Doesn't matter

They suck

[gloomy heart]

💨 💩

[lyric gate]

16 highkey

icant

[normal mist]

It would be for me

I'm doing 12/13

[lyric gate]

i boosted my 3000 rated friends in my resil 16 key week ago

its a joke afte rturbo boost

[normal mist]

I'm yet below turbo boost ilvl:(

[lyric gate]

i did all 16s with 671 item level

now i just feel robbed my time

[hollow river]

Professional dad gamer

[rain coral]

hey does anyone knows, how it works when you wanna do the legion class questline, how do i continue at these when i have done all the quest before, do i have to finish all quest on the mission board? before getting further in the questline

[thick forge]

Its top 1% for ppl

[normal mist]

Problem is that the 1% do not realize that they are the minority

And what they do isn't the norm

[lyric gate]

y its always like that

if i have done a key stage

it is instant registered easy / low for my brain

[normal mist]

Same for me ngl

[lyric gate]

its psychological game

[rain coral]

anyone knows can help me with my question ^^

[normal mist]

So stuff up to 12 is easy now for me

Got my resi yesteday

[lyric gate]

you cAN SKIP

all legion

[rain coral]

how?

[normal mist]

I believe you need the board quests

[lyric gate]

nah you change timeline to chromie

are you alliance ?

[rain coral]

yes

[lyric gate]

in stormwind you get the quest on the npc

[rain coral]

but what you mean?

[normal mist]

They take like 1h per mission quest

[red schooner]

It may be worth looking up the quest chain on wowhead and going from there, it's been a hot minute since legion

[lyric gate]

when you talk to the npc there is a greay line under it

[rain coral]

i did

[normal mist]

I believe you two are not talking about the same thing

[lyric gate]

-I HAVE DONE IT BLA BLA - skip

its grey so easy to not see

[normal mist]

Or I'm the one lost

[rain coral]

notchurki can you explain me what ya mean? iam kinda confused right now^^

[snow hamlet]

remove 2 slots can avoid stat compression in Dastardly Duos

[lyric gate]

gimme sec

[snow hamlet]

[hollow river]

I don’t think you can do this for the class hall campaign, no

[rain coral]

write me a pn pls

[hearty seal]

rogues use poisons
sounds about right

[lyric gate]

ah for class hall ?=

sorry then i didnt read it right

[normal mist]

And oils!

[hollow river]

[rain coral]

i need the skin you get when you finish a

+15 dung

[hearty seal]

tbh I use whetstones because I have like a stack of a couple hundred still from before I had an ench alt

[rain coral]

but i need to complete the questline too

[hollow river]

To answer your question yes you have to do the mission boards stuff afaik

[lyric gate]

y

i have don ethat shit for outlaw appearence

[rain coral]

y but NotChurki said you can skip somehow

[lyric gate]

no i was wrong

i thought you wanted to skip intro to the legion zone

my bad

[hollow river]

[rain coral]

so i do have to finish all board mission to continue ?

[lyric gate]

no i was just doing all the main quest

took me 30 min

[hollow river]

Wowhead has guides for this btw

[lyric gate]

and 1 board shit quest for turtorial

[rain coral]

notrickz can you link that guide

havent found it

[normal mist]

Do you have the skin already?

Is it balance of power?

[lyric gate]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/legion-artifact-weapons

[rain coral]

i have only done all quest and know i can only do the board stuff

[lyric gate]

ah its legion guide

[rain coral]

no new quest from the main dude

[lyric gate]

you have done all the quest in the "hidden room " ?

[rain coral]

hidden room?

[normal mist]

Do the mission table quests

[rain coral]

y i am doing that

them*

but theres just new ones come all

[normal mist]

The campaign ones are always easy to distinguish

[lyric gate]

y dunno

just do all the quest

in the room

after you drink with the guys there

and recruited the other girl

you have the shit

[rain coral]

y i have recruited that girl and everything

[sour marten]

where should i macro house of cards?

[lyric gate]

in deathmark

[rain coral]

i jsut dont get quest anymore

i can only do missions on the board

[lyric gate]

can you talk to the apperance tab le ?=

to the anvil ?

[rain coral]

to the what?

[rain coral]

nah i havent seen that

[lyric gate]

its in the other room

you have to equip your daggers aylso

[hollow river]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/class-hall-campaign-for-the-third-artifact-relic

There’s a couple mission boards you have to do as part of the quest line

[rain coral]

y iam doing that

[hollow river]

And you have to afk for like an hour each time

Til they’re done

[rain coral]

but i did them

its just coming new ones

[hollow river]

Then check the quest list on the page I linked

And find where you are

[rain coral]

oke will do 👍

thanks so far

[hollow river]

Np

Scroll down to rogue and click the spoiler button on the page

And it’ll show a list

[rain coral]

and the +15 dung skin always counts for the current season right

[subtle tundra]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

miaw

[hollow river]

Ye

Everything can be equated to current seasons if it involves a rated environment

[rain coral]

where can i see btw. which quest i ve done so far?

[hollow river]

You just have to figure that out by going through them

[rain coral]

how do i do that?

[hollow river]

Go through the list on the page

Click the quests or the associated YouTube videos linked

To try to find where you have left off

[rain coral]

oke

but iam wondering why i have to quest left from the class hall

theres no new quest in my questlog

[hollow river]

i've got no way of knowing where you've left off, so i can't really offer much help on that

gotta try to remember where you left off so you can see where to continue

[golden loom]

Isnt there a script to see if you have completed a quest? At least there is in classic

[hollow river]

try creating a wowhead account and linking your character

and it can tell you which ones you've completed if you can't remember

[hollow river]

yeah, you'd have to go through and use a different command for every quest on the list to see if you've done them or not

[hollow river]

you're most likely around here if you've just started doing the mission table stuff

[rotund oak]

irrelevant but im cooking a DK for shuffles

plz continue

[hollow river]

dk is dope

[naive walrus]

Hey, I just rerolled my rogue from Sub to Assasination and I have question around secondary stats. This is what I manage after recrafting my gear. What you think I should pump more? Crit and Haste?

[balmy condor]

follow sims

[rotund oak]

ur stats looks very fine to me

and the fact that u have enough ilvl

there isnt much to change rly

[naive walrus]

just Sim for Stats?

[balmy condor]

top gear/droptimizer

(basically the only two sim types that exist the rest is kinda worthless)

[rotund oak]

we never stat sim here only Top gear/droptimizer,that means u sim individually separate pieces and follow what sims higher on your profile

[naive walrus]

Thanks lads!

[near lark]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-bean-mr-bean-holiday-mr-bean-holiday-movie-gif-3228235746377647455

Me waiting for echoing to be fixed

KeK

[rotund oak]

yeah dont put any faith on that

😂

[near lark]

I don't xD

I'm running gushing cause I'm a raider, not M+'er so couldn't care less about anything other than boss dmg, but Id just like echoing to be fixed so I could forget about it

[rotund oak]

gushing always good,its more ST u might use even in m+

cant go south

[red schooner]

Even with it fixed it's barely an improvement anyhow, 5 of the greater corruptions simmed within margin of error for me

[near lark]

Ah ya, I haven't even bothered simming since I simmed last week, it would mean I've to farm more memetos

[rotund oak]

cringe content tbh

got most tmogs from there alrdy,was raiding back on bfa

will take the mounts and be done

[maiden sierra]

ive maxed my character, what now? do i play the game?

[nova kelp]

now you do your 8 mask solos and like mage towers, collect mounts

lol

have fun

[maiden sierra]

fun?

in wow?

[rotund oak]

poe 1 new season waiting room else farm some gold/tokens if u need any

[buoyant herald]

you can retire now

[maiden sierra]

i guess i did mean to play stalker 2

oh and oblivion

[rotund oak]

what is stalker even

[maiden sierra]

dunno, but women like to call me that

[rotund oak]

[olive peak]

does the ring recraft method to get the second one upgraded for just valorstone still a thing?

[subtle tundra]

play elden ring nightreign

[royal lantern]

if i wanna Play low effort sequel bait, PoE2 exists

[subtle tundra]

ragebait, but ill bite

not once was this advertised as a sequel

it always was a roguelike with reused assets

and a completely different type of game

and its nowhere near low effort, if youve played it and managed to beat the first boss

i think i can get 100hrs of gametime just playing every character and learning stuff
then add infinite replayability + extremely fun with friends

• dlc at the end of the year
• modding eventually

the playable characters are all very different and unique

very hard to not connect with one

[golden loom]

Wtf that made me wanna buy it

[subtle tundra]

also, each character has a storyline

that reward bonuses and a skin at the end

each character has 5(?) different skins, some are realllly cool

[feral agate]

guys question please, my Cyrce's circlet 655 still not replacable when simming. Is it bis even at that ilevel ? Can i upgrade it more ? if yes, how ? thanks for your help

[red schooner]

It varies character to character, some can replace it, some can't

[rotund oak]

u need 1 more upgrade and yes its probably replacable only by a myth track ring

as in it outsims it

but u always need to sim it,different profiles sim different,which means u might keep it

[subtle tundra]

raider has the coolest skins imo

also my favorite character

[feral agate]

i got this one on mythic and still nothing

[golden loom]

Havel and Siegward pog

[rotund oak]

yeah sim this on 684 ilvl

[golden loom]

I decided on re-playing DS3 before replaying Sekiro I think

[rotund oak]

if still gets outsimed means u need to work on your gear entirely

but dotn sell the ring

under any circumstances

[red schooner]

I feel like I should try sekiro, it's on sale on steam at the moment

[golden loom]

Do it

Amazing experience

[feral agate]

nah it's from the vault i don't have it per say

[golden loom]

Like it might not click the first hour or so, but once Sekrio clicks its top top top tier

[rotund oak]

just top gear it,see what the numbers say and act accordingly

[feral agate]

and how to upgrade the circlet ?

[rotund oak]

u do the weekly stuff

quest

or drops an item

which u use on circlet to add ilvl

+3

[feral agate]

oh i need to do the zone right ?

[rotund oak]

in order to have the ring means u have doen everything on the zone

just do the weekly stuff

check ur bags once u are done

u will see it there

use it on ring,u done

[feral agate]

weekly stuff in the zone

[rotund oak]

yes

[feral agate]

okay i thought it was in general 😄

thank you

[rotund oak]

yw friend

[nova kelp]

Nooooooo~ you should have waited!

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[hot pasture]

!spreadsheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[potent raven]

sick vault

did blizzard still add no catchup for 3rd dinar?

[balmy condor]

nop

[potent raven]

XD sick

[prime hull]

Yeah I finished the quest objectives last week on my rogue, but didnt turn in the quest because I forgot to log into my 5th char, so now it's perma behind 😄

Love the system!

[balmy condor]

blizzard for sure loves it

now you gotta log in another week

[cyan surge]

Anyone else having issues with the dynamic duo thing. My bonuses and buffs that comes from stealth goes away in 1-2sec. No improved garrote, no MA, no IC, and no subterfuge.

[potent raven]

i mean thats insane

[balmy condor]

yeh, the entire thing is bugged to shit

[cyan surge]

GG

[potent raven]

blizzard cant get anything right ever

why do i even keep playign this game

[spice surge]

As sub your dance and symbols reset to max charges every like 5 seconds or something

[cyan surge]

Ooof

[spice surge]

Which is just insanely op

[worthy rose]

!tott

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[wraith burrow]

Anyone have a rogue POV for mythic one-armed bandit? Trying to compare and see what I can do with how we run the fight to improve DPS.

[junior burrow]

nice

[potent raven]

rerolling to feral

[wanton hound]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[vestal cliff]

Good choice, im Duchess enjoyer

[prime hull]

Hmm I'm debating taking the neck which is kinda crazy since I don't have eye of kezan, but i think this is one of the only necks in the game that's useful and I can always dinar eye of kezan in 4 weeks.

[potent raven]

think season is over in 4 weeks

kek

[prime hull]

Nah 8 weeks at least.

[golden loom]

Kezan seems like almost a gally only item at this point

like even mugzee is getting fast as fk

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/meowdy-cat-cowboy-cowboy-cat-gif-10014009665270740623

[golden loom]

and I guess M+ if ur doing super high team pushing and know what ur doing

[prime hull]

Yeah exactly i dont even mythic raid on my rogue really anyway, I just play keys mayyybe but not at the level where people stack eye of kezan i think

[normal mist]

It requires proper chainpulling to not lose stacks afaik

Which might require good comms

[worthy fable]

!talents

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[golden loom]

[cosmic citrus]

Hi all, one question i have on the spec after playing it for a bit. if you're on 6/7 combo points and need to explode a darkest night. What's the best builder to use to get 7/7?

[worthy fable]

depends

is it ST or AOE?

If youre ok on energy and garrote pandemic is ok u can send a garrote usually

[golden loom]

Garrote if its in pandemic, otherwise u bite the bullet and mutilate

[worthy fable]

isnt fok better for aoe tho?

[golden loom]

well in AoE fok yeah

[worthy fable]

or i guess it depends on spatter

if u renew spatter as well then mutilate

x)

[golden loom]

or yeah if u need to renew spatter

[cosmic citrus]

Okay so it is the norm to just 'bite the bullet' when it comes to darkest night. I always feel like i'm wasting so many combo points on it xD

It never seems to be ready for when i need to garrote or renew spatter xD

[golden loom]

if you dont have Vicious venoms talented u can FoK aswell

but Mutilate does do a fair amount of damage in raid build so could be worse

[red schooner]

It's better to be cycling through your darkest night than it is to try and fish for a good run of builders to land on 7 exactly

[cosmic citrus]

brilliant thanks 🙂

[arctic dust]

When going with Ironwire instead of the additional Shiv charge in the bleed build, when will i have to send the Shiv? One during/immediatly after pressing DM and one during Lingering Darkness before Darkest Night hits?

[spice surge]

On CD

[midnight scroll]

hey guys, i'm a bit stuck on gems atm, i have like 3 masterful rubies, one masterful onyx, and one culminating blasphemite, i also just bought a socket from the guy next to the vault, not sure what to slot into my wrist piece

and does it reeeally matter that much?

[golden loom]

no, having gems is the good part but the difference between them is very minimal

I just go 1 color of each for vibes

[normal mist]

Go rainbow gems 🌠 🌈

[midnight scroll]

also, when weighing stats, do i look at the number or the percent, because percentually i have more mastery, but when hovering over it i have more crit

[normal mist]

Depends

[spice spire]

Number matters most

For signet and whatnot

[normal mist]

Do you have priory trinket?

[midnight scroll]

yes

[normal mist]

Then it's the number you want

Biggest number

Mastery

[spice surge]

But also sim knows so its fine, just sim

[midnight scroll]

so that means that signet's been increasing my crit? 😭

[spice spire]

Yes

[normal mist]

Much likely

[midnight scroll]

oh shit

that bad?

[normal mist]

It's alright

[spice spire]

Not great

[normal mist]

But mastery would probably be better

[spice spire]

Since your darkest night envenoms are already critting

[grim jay]

Mastery way better

[spice spire]

It’s a pretty decent loss for crit to pro

[midnight scroll]

well how the hell am i supposed to reduce it, is it okay if i just type out my stat numbers here?

[normal mist]

Crafted items

Items on your bag

Flask

[grim jay]

No

[normal mist]

Enchants

[grim jay]

You dont change flask

Its always alchemical chaos

[spice spire]

Yeah if you mastery flask your potion gives you everything but mastery

[strange python]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice spire]

So your proccing crit

[midnight scroll]

cause right now, no flask, nothing, i have 21,112 crit and 13,312 mastery god damn

[potent raven]

lmao

thats insane

i have like 20k mastery

[midnight scroll]

didn't even notice it wtf

[grim jay]

I have like 26k mastery

[potent raven]

u been trolling bro..

[grim jay]

And 10k crit

[red schooner]

Time to go for a house of cards

[grim jay]

[midnight scroll]

appears so

[drifting cloud]

do you have like 9 crafted items or what

how the hell did you get so much crit

[potent raven]

recraft some to vers/mastery

[drifting cloud]

or well I guess you probably using circlet still?

[midnight scroll]

i have boots and two daggers, all at crit mastery lol

[midnight scroll]

yes

[grim jay]

It probably looks way worse than it is because his circlet boosts crit

[drifting cloud]

yeah circlet locks in your stats when you login

so if you remove it, the difference might not be that big anymore where you can fix it with gems, enchants, recrafts

[midnight scroll]

without circlet, 17k crit, 10k mastery okay i really gotta lock tf in

[grim jay]

Definitely need to fix that

[normal mist]

7k is like jewelry issues

[grim jay]

Definitely

[drifting cloud]

cinderbrew neck?

[midnight scroll]

dfc neck

i have on right now

[grim jay]

Thats crit vers aswell right

[midnight scroll]

yep

[grim jay]

Would just craft a neck ngl

[drifting cloud]

oh thats the one I meant

yeah if you craft non crit neck its probably almost solved already

[tall jay]

Can anyone help me with a small question regarding plater updates?

I have an update profile option showing but it don’t tell me which plater is needed to update?

I use Whispyrs for rogue and someone else’s for my dk but it don’t update ?

[grim jay]

Mastery haste or mastery vers neck

[midnight scroll]

so i'd just buy a mastery vers missive or something like that?

[grim jay]

Ye sim both options

Depends on if the sim wants haste or vers to your mastery

[midnight scroll]

also i do have some "shit" ring still, ring of perpetual conflict, gives almost 5k crit and 2k mastery, i'll be able to buy jastor diamond tonight though

[grim jay]

Would certainly help

Iirc you have 3 sources that can still mess up your Signet even if your crit is slightly lower, which are flask, jastor and ascendance

So you want crit decently lower than mastery

Crafted neck and jastor will definitely help you solve your issue

Might even be enough with just jastor

Tbf

[midnight scroll]

yea i'll have to see after raid tonight

i did feel a bit weird playing like this though hahaha

i'm also still a noob when it comes to this shit

[grim jay]

Just get jastor and swap out that ring

Then get back to us

[midnight scroll]

so i shouldn't craft a neck now?

[grim jay]

I mean crafting neck is solid either way, dunno how your gear is set up, as in if the crafts might be better elsewhere if you dont NEED the neck for that

I use a crafted neck aswell

[waxen oyster]

crafted neck is only crit haste

unless you have richard one

[grim jay]

He definitely doesnt want a crit haste neck rn

[midnight scroll]

yea i'll pass on crit for now

if someone needs it i'd gladly donate a bit of it

[waxen oyster]

well richard is heavy haste

[red schooner]

God no I'm not far away from signet danger range

[waxen oyster]

im surprised despite crit being my 2nd highest, higher crit on crit mastery ring is my highest sim

[red schooner]

Keep your crit away from me

I'm buying hoc mythic tonight I'll be safe after that

[waxen oyster]

going orc made hoc even better for me lol

[midnight scroll]

i WISH i could buy mythic jastor

another noob question, how tf do i solve this? selected max currency, and clicked on some gems, i'm kinda lost

[potent raven]

wut is fractured gemstone locket even

[golden loom]

you want amulet of earthern craftmanship

[potent raven]

u dont craft that neck

its a healer neck

yeh waht uwucutegirl said

[midnight scroll]

hahahaha well that makes a lot of sense now

[potent raven]

good name tho

[midnight scroll]

well why can i even choose a damn healer neck

alright lemme try now

okay 2.1% increase with neck, i just don't know if it's mast/haste or mast/vers

nvm haste mastery it is

[drifting charm]

Haste for bleed build - does it make the bleeds tick faster or something?

[drifting cloud]

yes

[drifting cedar]

Sup bros I'm in front of a hard choice, dunno whether to pick Heroic Jastor or Mythic House of Cards... trinket sims better at 7 minute fight, equal on 6 minute and worse on 5 min, currently progressing Mug'Zee close to kill
Maybe go safe with the ring? Because our best pull was 15% and fight timer around 5:45, that means it'll be even shorter with dmg buff next week and all having chip this week

[rotund oak]

personally wouldnt mind with heroic gear

but whatever sims say i guess

[analog field]

You can keep for mythic jastor I guess

Unless you don't have a mythic trinket like signet, where you could buy HoC

[drifting cedar]

gotcha, spent first chip on mythic signet tho

[strange escarp]

Bad luck protection is kind of weird here. The best item is from the last boss but you have to kill to get it. But then why would you need the item if you already killed? I can see an argument either way for getting heroic version or waiting for myth version, but I personally wouldn’t grab the HoC

[royal lantern]

yeha then ignore HoC

signet and hoc mythic are equal

[midnight scroll]

can you use jeweler's setting on jastor diamond?

[red schooner]

Yeah

[midnight scroll]

hm, my sims aren't showing any gems on that ring though...

god i hate simming

[analog field]

add sockets and gems

[royal lantern]

press the little + icon on the item

[midnight scroll]

yes, just clicked on the +

[thin bramble]

hey guys wanted to ask really quick if jastor diamond really is bis? sims lower for me

[jaunty sky]

There is no definitive BiS

[thin bramble]

meant to put it in Sub sry

[steady swan]

Quick question, with bleed build crimson tempest on ST, yes/no?

[jaunty sky]

Gonna be the same answer there

[jaunty sky]

Yes

[steady swan]

Ty

[normal mist]

Yes

[sullen mural]

higher prio than envenom if no darkest night

[prime hull]

@winged sun you mentioned cleave build undersims and you need a custom apl for it? Do you have that onhand or if not what are the rotational changes that it needs? Just higher envenom priority?

[winged sun]

hi

[haughty flicker]

[winged sun]

yes

whispyr is working on it too but, the main issue was IC isn't functioning without subterfuge, few sim bugs

there are barely any rotation changes

just new minmaxes if anything

since we never played double shiv in m+ before i think?

and never no garrote

you can mainly focus on pressing garrote on st and during deathmark at medium sized pulls, if you can fit a garrote in ur IC window in a big pull pre deathmark thats a good gain if theres a prio target u want to kill

[fierce abyss]

A question for someone else, the deathstalker's mark doesn't appear on the rogue after the update.

[prime hull]

I guess you want to end pulls with 5cp ideally as well since you won't be garrotting to build cp?

rupture rupture ambush fok ct deathmark sounds like a much better pack opener with that build

[rotund oak]

wdym by ''doesnt appear on the rogue''? You mean darkest night?

[fierce abyss]

yes

[rotund oak]

[fallow canopy]

I'm not sure what you mean but it never did

[rotund oak]

as in the buff u get to apply the DSM after consuming the DSM stacks?

[onyx gyro]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[rotund oak]

this is very problematic if its a thing since darkest night proc is the only thing we know of that can track to apply the new DSM

im actually buffled now ngl,need to log and test

[fierce abyss]

but i have a bug and the deathstalker´s and the darkest night is not proc but the fatebouns is all good

[rotund oak]

did u test it on a training dummy?

i need to test this

driving me mad

[fierce abyss]

I've been trying to solve this all morning but there's no solution.

[fallow canopy]

Could be he just happened to have one of the DN bugs

but I played yesterday no issues whatsoever

[fierce abyss]

yes bro my firts time is in raid and later i try to dummy but nothing

[rotund oak]

training dummies are famous triggering bugs but hold on a sec logging atm

[fierce abyss]

I also played well yesterday, but after the update it doesn't work.

i try to reinstal wow

[spice spire]

Really silly question that I’ve missed most of

But like

A capstone talent didn’t get unselected correct?

[midnight scroll]

i've had a bug last night where IC wouldn't spread ruptures unless i manually changed to a target that didn't have rupture already

[normal mist]

Sometimes it's the obvious things man, sometimes

[fierce abyss]

no bro

[last skiff]

Yo we Start gallywix mythic this night, do we target ads? like technician ?

[normal mist]

Can you record a clip of that happening?

If you have Windows 11 it is pretty easy to do

[fierce abyss]

i go record now later to instal wow

[normal mist]

I doubt it's a installation problem

It rarely is

[coral ibex]

show a clip or a log of it happening or its extremely likely its just user error

show pic of talents

[normal mist]

I still remember that one homie that was going crazy because he couldn't apply caustic spatter

[rotund oak]

SS from my allie rogue,it triggers normally

[fallow canopy]

I feel that if it were a common place issue we would have had a pin by now

[normal mist]

And in the end, after watching his own clip, he was not pressing mutilate

"I swear I'm pressing mutilate"

He wasn't

[fallow canopy]

Me using instant poison instead of deadly and thinking cs was bugged feel that pain

[normal mist]

We all have been there

[vivid mulch]

What WA's you guys using for keys and LOU?

Causes?

[arctic dust]

I want to try out a ranged focus kick macro combining shadowstep with kick. /cast [@focus] Shadowstep
/cast [@focus] Kick however doesn't seem to work, I only shadowstep to the focustarget - kick doesnt get triggered. What am I missing?

[rotund oak]

ive got it on a mod macro,works like a charm

normally u need to press twice if u wanna step into a kick btw

but its very tricky,ive used 2 separate mod macros for focus step/focus kick

[arctic dust]

thats what i'm doing, works ok but i wanted to get it into one click 😇

[rotund oak]

and swap my focus from a mouse button

idk if thats possible man

[devout rock]

guys do i have lots of mastery?

[rotund oak]

u need to press twice since they are 2 separate skills

step and kick

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-family-guy-perhaps-maybe-gif-16249623

[arctic dust]

just getting used to mousover/focus kick though, should be enough to work with for now. thanks though!

[rotund oak]

yup,cheers yw

[shy axle]

@devout rock yes

[devout rock]

would u recommend me to get more crit or haste? i kinda feel like my energy bar is weird right now, i think haste would minimize this shit feeling

[normal mist]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[shy axle]

it will not, thats just the specc

[normal mist]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[shy axle]

but i would guess the sim would want to give you some more haste and versa and reduce mastery

[coral ibex]

nothing you can do can "fix" your energy bar

[fallow canopy]

Sims will tell you

[coral ibex]

you could not possibly gain the amount of haste you'd need for it to matter

[fallow canopy]

Haste does basically nothing for energy

[coral ibex]

you'd need more than 2x lust permanently

[shy axle]

just get it then

[normal mist]

A big thanks to @prisma monolith for carrying 99% of the questions asked

[fallow canopy]

The goat

[normal mist]

The homie we didn't deserve

[fallow canopy]

Although he tends to take non sanctioned vacations every once in a while

[devout rock]

thanks boys

[normal mist]

Even him gets tired of shit

[devout rock]

helped alot

❤️

[earnest remnant]

quake keeps abducting him for a makeout session

[fallow canopy]

Does he stream those? Asking for a friend

[earnest remnant]

@spice spire do you?

[spice spire]

Nah

[earnest remnant]

damn gatekeeping

thats wild

[spice spire]

Gaslight gatekeep girlboss

[trail scarab]

vault day pog

[fallow canopy]

Thats one money making venture you are missing

[past bobcat]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[trail scarab]

how is delve on rogue? is it nice? i read that u can spam some +11 delve for 15 rune crest per 5 minute or so (dont know how real that is) but isnt that kinda insane

[jaunty sky]

It's good, just gotta pick a nice story and delve

[trail scarab]

all my gear requires rune crests atm so will test it out, dont get invited to so many keys

[jaunty sky]

Underkeep and sidestreet sluice are my favourites

[coral ibex]

fungal folly >>>>

[haughty flicker]

yeah now that the spores damage things again fungal folly can be super fast

[trail scarab]

will try it out, thanks team

[golden loom]

The dread pit is #1

[nova hazel]

welp my vault has two boots, and guide says i should craft 681 boots, but does it matter if the embellishment is in another slot?

[golden loom]

No, crafts are used to fill low ilvl slots

Like I have crafted helm belt and bracers personally

[nova hazel]

i see, thank you

[normal mist]

Also guide BIS LIST is outdated and the answer for 99% of the things Is "sim it"

"why is it outdated"
Because whispyr can't be bothered with such a stupid concept

When simming exists

[eager pond]

Quick and dumb question: 1.7 new belt has by default a socket, you can add another one with S.A.D or not?

[serene mason]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[fallow canopy]

you couldnt add gems to the cyrce ring so prob not but we don't really know yet

[eager pond]

I see... well, just wait 2 more weeks

[merry marten]

Hey guys

Is it worth going primarily mastery even when taking 10% penalty?

I mean for Single target

[coral ibex]

you should sim yourself and follow what it says

[merry marten]

I’m simming mate

[coral ibex]

well then you have the answer

[merry marten]

Sims say to play with circlet and top loggers are not playing circlet

[coral ibex]

do you have all of the same items as these top loggers

[merry marten]

I can recraft some stats and ye everything

682 ilvl