#assassination

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subtle tundra
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just like outlaw

bronze pike
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i thionk it was fine

rotund oak
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outlaw is turboswamp

midnight mist
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you are turboswamp

haughty flicker
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real

subtle tundra
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you said outcuck is good

charred obsidian
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outlaw is turbo good

normal mist
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Turbo is good

rotund oak
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swamp is a channel below

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can say that there

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enough bozos with their madness

bronze pike
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Ya go back to your pirate channel

charred obsidian
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never

rotund oak
midnight mist
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Considered how cooked this channel has been lately

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I would pipe down

charred obsidian
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pirates are known to raid and plunder

bronze pike
rotund oak
red schooner
midnight mist
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you guys are so cooked you have drama in your tc channels

subtle tundra
midnight mist
midnight mist
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welcome back btw

subtle tundra
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yeah but it was worth it

midnight mist
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fr

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agreed

subtle tundra
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not saying i would do it again

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cause i dont wanna instigate

bronze pike
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Did I miss something?

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Also that’s normal

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Varas gets silly somethings

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And other peoples get silly

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Cause sin fotm spec

subtle tundra
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theres a certain person i dont get alone with here

haughty flicker
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wtf

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what did i do

rotund oak
bronze pike
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Did u and whispyr break up?

midnight mist
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Wtf

subtle tundra
subtle tundra
haughty flicker
subtle tundra
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but youre forgiven zac cause you gave me freeze corleone and his lyrics are too good

subtle tundra
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sexpedition 33

subtle tundra
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lune my beloved

bronze pike
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Oh

subtle tundra
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my favorite feet queen

red schooner
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Monoco my beloved

rotund oak
# normal mist https://tenor.com/view/gustave-morning-gustave-gustave-expedition-33-expedition-...

I like french ppl like this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Paul_Sartre

Jean-Paul Charles Aymard Sartre (, US also ; French: [saʁtʁ]; 21 June 1905 – 15 April 1980) was a French philosopher, playwright, novelist, screenwriter, political activist, biographer, and literary critic, considered a leading figure in 20th-century French philosophy and Marxism. Sartre was one of the key figures in the philosophy of existe...

normal mist
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Monoco best characer

unkempt pilot
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funny because french people don't like french people x)

normal mist
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Same with Portuguese

rotund oak
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same for greek

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and uk

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brits literally killing each other

subtle tundra
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i love romanians just theres a subset of the population i dont ever wanna interact with

subtle tundra
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which is like 40% of the population

subtle tundra
midnight mist
rotund oak
midnight mist
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I'm french and I don't understand the lyrics

subtle tundra
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i know its fire

charred obsidian
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?

subtle tundra
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i dont need to understand what they mean

midnight mist
quasi pine
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wtf, we're talking about freeze now on this channel?

midnight mist
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But ye

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Banger

subtle tundra
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i love non-serious music

grim jay
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I hate non-serious music

quasi pine
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the duality

subtle tundra
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to every ying, a yang

last skiff
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too many french here

midnight mist
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Fr

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Fuck the frenchs

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I never liked them

winter stirrup
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real

quasi pine
subtle tundra
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french women are hot and have an attitude, love em

winter stirrup
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I hate omelette du fromage

quasi pine
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spit your shit indeed

last skiff
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zac I subbed yesterday you say nothing

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like à french

winter stirrup
midnight mist
rotund oak
grim jay
rotund oak
grim jay
winter stirrup
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u don't even replied last time I'm sad

midnight mist
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i haev too many people yapping now

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its hard

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since i dont talk with a mic

winter stirrup
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stop beeing strong at the game

rotund oak
grim jay
rotund oak
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also very short iirc

rotund oak
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not that scarlett plays on nba

subtle tundra
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miau

rotund oak
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but you know

midnight mist
subtle tundra
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and dua lipa is albanian

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miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiAU

acoustic sky
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openning ravenholdt
french brainrot

winter stirrup
grim jay
subtle tundra
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i rarely see girls over 1.7

subtle tundra
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thats dicksize or

rotund oak
midnight mist
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thats small tbf

grim jay
midnight mist
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even for a girl dick

grim jay
midnight mist
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what

grim jay
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Girl dicks are usually huge

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Wdym

subtle tundra
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i do certainly thirst over tall women

midnight mist
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well eviddently not the one from the girl you are dating

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]its ok tho

winter stirrup
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average size is 1m62 for women

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wtf it's short

bronze pike
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All woman are good

grim jay
midnight mist
grim jay
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Above 170 is fire

bronze pike
subtle tundra
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above 180 are so rare i dont worry about it

bronze pike
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Your jelly cause French

midnight mist
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french is bis

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cause we have best food

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and best music

bronze pike
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French is bis

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If your in opposite land

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GOTTEM

midnight mist
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and the best outalw

grim jay
winter stirrup
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except frech tacos

midnight mist
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??

bronze pike
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Peru bis

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Latin chads

grim jay
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Germany bis

bronze pike
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Our noodles is green

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The color of money

rotund oak
# bronze pike Your jelly cause French

french are fine,just weird and kinda think they are good in everything,their food is average,kind ppl but thats it.They do have the most productive economy in E.U rn though

rotund oak
last skiff
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best food after speaking about french tacos

winter stirrup
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either internet ppl loves us or trash talks us

grim jay
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Im sorry pal

winter stirrup
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idk why so much hate

bronze pike
bronze pike
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People who actually hate specific peoples are weird and cringe

rotund oak
grim jay
winter stirrup
subtle tundra
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i do get drunk on red wine very quickly if anyone is interested

winter stirrup
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not talking about u btw, rogue players are the bests

bronze pike
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I need a French baddie with a baguette and mime painting

grim jay
subtle tundra
bronze pike
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Pairing meat with white wine

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Is mental

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White wine goes with chicken/turkey

winter stirrup
subtle tundra
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i should drink more often...

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cant wait to go to prague this year

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beer oclock

grim jay
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How about we just mix both. In our mouths.

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Red and white.

bronze pike
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Do u think Tarzan was a virgin when he met Jane?

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Or did he clap some gorilla cheeks

nova kelp
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finally, mug and zee are down, just gally to go 🙂

bronze pike
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Yes this is a sin question facist mods

grim jay
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Like everyone should

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Just consume what you wanna consume

hollow tide
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should i just spend as many evenom as i could in kingsbane, despite overwriting 2 stacks?

grim jay
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I barely recognize italian or spanish people

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But french often have it either in their name or write something french at some point

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(Personal experience, might not be representative)

grim jay
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No pooling or anything, except to half energy before your non DM kb

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If you so choose

winter stirrup
grim jay
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After you KBed, you just spam again

winter stirrup
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I'm ashamed when a french do shit in my lobby

subtle tundra
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start using insults

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merde!

bronze pike
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Puto

subtle tundra
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putain

grim jay
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So am I for my fellow germans that often behave like apes

bronze pike
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Puta

rotund oak
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not an entire nation

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thats silly

subtle tundra
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silly goose

winter stirrup
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It like when ppl of ur age do shit in the street

grim jay
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People of his age cant fucking walk more often than not

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Sap is ancient

normal mist
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Lol

rotund oak
normal mist
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I'm not khunas

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I'm also not french

grim jay
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Ha khunas ma tatas

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Or something

normal mist
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

rotund oak
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hahahahaha

grim jay
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Musclebrah was the best rogue to ever have roamed azeroth

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And a fellow german

rotund oak
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He's Turk

winter stirrup
grim jay
rotund oak
grim jay
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The goat

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Garret 1 Garret 2

rotund oak
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40k!!

grim jay
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Good old times. Wish we had those numbers again

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Ngl

lavish geyser
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

normal mist
red schooner
normal mist
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I'm so tired of big numbers and also equally tired of stat squishes

grim jay
grim jay
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The last one was kind eh

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Iirc

red schooner
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How many stat squishes are we on now?

rotund oak
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good question

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was that 2

soft shale
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3 but they are being made more often i think if you count when they also krangled lvls

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2 if not

rotund oak
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i can recall 2 for sure

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once we voted for

soft shale
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legion->bfa and then sl->df i think?

rotund oak
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i think it was bfa=>sl

soft shale
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i do remember one kinda in mop to wod

rotund oak
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yeah mop to wod for sure

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those two i had in mind

soft shale
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so yea 3

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i do remember hitting things for 20m+ then on bfa way less but i dont think it was a super squish

rotund oak
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stats were freaky

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in bfa

red schooner
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For the final boss of wow they need to unsquish us and let things go wild

rotund oak
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least after corruptions

normal mist
red schooner
normal mist
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Hopefully I won't be playing wow by then

red schooner
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Don't forget, you're here forever

normal mist
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Honestly, it's meh.
I enjoy the game but I don't see myself enjoying it forever

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My love for this seasonal gameplay is getting gommaged

grim jay
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So many different things to play

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Also rl

normal mist
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Right?!

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Same!

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And baby soon 🍼🐥

rotund oak
normal mist
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If anything I want to make YouTube videos like that one YouTuber dad that does m+ with his son and daughter, it's so wholesome

grim jay
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I still have an unfinished ac shadows playthrough, play bdo on the side, lately in that CoD feeling again and oh so much irl. No baby tho. garf

normal mist
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They're like 6-9 yo

rotund oak
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im so afraid to make kids,i would die sleepless,wouldnt close my eyes ever

normal mist
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I FEEL THE SAME

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AHHHHHH

grim jay
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Just be like that woman in my old guild

proud pelican
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I have a 1 year old that was my biggest fear too but it’s not that bad

grim jay
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Constantly yelling at her child with mic unmuted until she gets reminded

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While raiding

ivory gust
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Do we refresh garrote and rupture in m+ without vanish?

grim jay
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Garrote only on Mt if spattering/prio

ivory gust
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MT? :)

grim jay
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Main target

lavish geyser
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does assa have any type of magical dmg?

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maybe hero talents?

normal mist
haughty flicker
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nature damage is magic damage

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so a significant amount yes

lavish geyser
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okm I see. So can assa fit in just as well with a phys comp as magic?

rotund oak
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sin fits everywhere

lavish geyser
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I play with my Vdh friend for keys, we have been going phys comp. but would it be smarter to just lean fully into magic?

rotund oak
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are u pushing for 17-18s+?

haughty flicker
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you still benefit way more from stuff like mystic touch, its just chaos brand isnt completely useless

lavish geyser
rotund oak
# lavish geyser y

u should consider asking higher rated ppl/teams,some times general rules dont apply in higher keys

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but in general idk if rogue can fit in this meta in higher keys and where

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havent pushed that high

grim jay
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Lemme dig

haughty flicker
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no idea

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i know fuu added raid buffs to his sheet so thats all i have to go off currently

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unless i felt like simming it myself but i'd have to log in and shit

grim jay
livid creek
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Does mag'har orc have a dmg edge over orc in pve dps? (Been seeing a lot of mag'har's lately)

grim jay
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Race sims are on bloodmallet

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For what its worth

livid creek
worn geyser
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tried zeroes build in a 17 pug workshop and got humbled , bleed is so much less work lmao

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kingsbane /no subterfuge is very cringe

grim jay
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Which was the play most of the time

worn geyser
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this my first tier in a long time so i dont have hybrid as good as i am at bleed yet either , skill issue

royal lantern
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get 5 ruptures out->CT->start spamming envenom into the big target and cleave

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thats all peeposhrug

lavish geyser
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I dont ´really fancy running bleed build

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I like going supercharger + 2x shiv

grim jay
lavish geyser
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do you perhaps know what it would be, running a poison + bleed build? like this one? would it make a difference?

haughty flicker
balmy condor
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Would make monk slightly less than 2%ish and dh slightly more than 2%ish

golden loom
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new chinese poison bleed build PogChamp

balmy condor
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Call it 1.8 and 2.2 if you want idk man

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People worry so much about raid buffs

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When it’s really like

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Warrior and shaman good

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Everything else who cares

subtle tundra
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i care

subtle tundra
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nvm i lied

balmy condor
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I know you don’t

subtle tundra
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im a big fat liar

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i need a kiss

worn geyser
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when running the cleave build when opening from stealth(ig 5-8 target) is it still best to use garrote as your main generator in IC despite losing SS\improved garrote? I tried to check on the guide and it says so but it seems weird since the CP gain is way less and the garrote dam is way less and delays going into spatter env spamming by a lot with only 1cp garrote

subtle tundra
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ive not played that build but i wouldnt use garrote unless i was gonna deathmark

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ambush fok rupture ct/rupture fok fok rupture/ct(dont know the exact prio) would be my guess

wooden timber
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!feint

prisma monolithBOT
worn geyser
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i tried it like ambush gar, fok rupture rupture fok(till 5cp) CT , mut dm kb fok env spam

subtle tundra
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that seems fine

worn geyser
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i wish they would make ambush apply spatter also, its kinda cringe to have a separate keybind to mut for if ur coming to next pack with darkest night with cps already

haughty flicker
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ambush does apply spatter

potent raven
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zeross build is an iq test

haughty flicker
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what a time to be alive

royal lantern
jaunty sky
haughty flicker
worn geyser
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it is 6 am i am so dumb

haughty flicker
worn geyser
potent raven
royal lantern
royal lantern
potent raven
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fell for the ragebait l0l

lavish wing
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only 2x 😛

royal lantern
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just funny how people overcomplicate it tbh

potent raven
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ya

royal lantern
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its more or less the same thing we did before the current "bleed build" became more popular

potent raven
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i miss the dragonflight cleave build

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hopefully blizzard uncaps kingsbane one day

lavish wing
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i feel like i gotta spread more on big pulls, like brew first pull

royal lantern
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fuck no

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uncapped kb was dogshit

potent raven
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h8r

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the vanish kb interaction was top tier

subtle tundra
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fell for bait again

potent raven
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isnt varas the guy who stalked zerocool then got muted for typing shit abt him 24/7 HAHA

subtle tundra
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2 in a row

royal lantern
subtle tundra
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am i falling for bait

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do i wanna

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nvm peace and quiet

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dont interact with the bait

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😼

potent raven
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reformed

grim jay
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It doesnt reflect your inner world

subtle tundra
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oh i am raging and seething

grim jay
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Same

earnest remnant
subtle tundra
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i am bottled up

lavish wing
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or get laid 😄

subtle tundra
potent raven
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yeaaa sad attention deprived guy..

lavish wing
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I tho varas is a girl 😄

potent raven
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LOOL

grim jay
subtle tundra
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close enough

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you can slap my ass

earnest remnant
subtle tundra
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1 free ass slap

lavish wing
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i know he's romanian

potent raven
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hiii stealthi long time no see

haughty flicker
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is he at least a romanian twink

lavish wing
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im next door 😄

hollow sphinx
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Do this discord have a log review channel or something like that?

grim jay
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Varas likes to look at meatlogs

subtle tundra
subtle tundra
hollow sphinx
brisk lily
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Heeey guys.
I got issue in m+ as assa spec only.
The thing is i put the target of my mark as focus, that i can come back in for CT and evenom.
But i cant put a focus for my kick and it happens that i miss my kick on some big pull.

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Did you got same issue ?

subtle tundra
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dont use focus to keep track of your mark is the solution

brisk lily
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How do you track it then ?

subtle tundra
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have a different color for the nameplate

spice surge
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Not hold it for several finishers or lose your mark entirely

lavish wing
brisk lily
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@subtle tundra you have clik on nameplate during pull ? But you have to switch many times to spread bleed

lavish wing
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tbh that might depend of how quickly u put her into p2

subtle tundra
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a lot of target swapping

spice surge
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Or mouseovers for bleeds

brisk lily
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That why i got a focus macro

lavish wing
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i honestly admire ppl doing MO macros in large pulls

subtle tundra
lavish wing
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i tried being "pro m+ player", made Mo macro for frost strike, like im gonna do it properly

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first pull, fck this shit

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im hittin only main target

subtle tundra
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takes too much brain power until you get used to it

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also i move my character/camera too much

lavish wing
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it has to do with camera

teal patrol
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Guys at what key level do you start using the force induction build?

lavish wing
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i play mostly in birds perspective and it kinda fcks up nameplates

teal patrol
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or is the bleed build just better overall?

lavish wing
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still got 3k so... i guess no need to MO shit up until like 15s

brisk lily
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@teal patrol i would say 16/17

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And before for TOP

teal patrol
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thanks!

brisk lily
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You dont so much ST before 16

burnt star
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Do yourself a favor and if ur playing bleed. Play with rupture/garrote on mouse over

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And get used to playing woth mo

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In the long run.. soooo much better

brisk lily
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@teal patrol also induction got some good targetting without losing so much aoe dmg wich is important in evry key

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You can save like several seconds for your time as induction

subtle tundra
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well the importance of prio depends on your comp

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last season if you played with a shaman you had issues of too much prio

lavish wing
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after the next reset im back to sub, baby

royal lantern
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you Always where a sub

lavish wing
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deep down, i gues 😄

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but raided and did keys as assa for the past few weeks

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tho i will continue as assa in raid most likely

hollow sphinx
spice surge
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I didnt look much more besides seeing you effectively played most of the fights without hero talents no

lost wadi
subtle tundra
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3429

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and erm

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89472173*10^5

midnight mist
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Wtf

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That's a lot

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You do that much Rava?

lost wadi
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I suck so much

lavish wing
subtle tundra
lavish wing
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no way 671 ring beats circlet

midnight mist
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Gamer my dude

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Keep it up!

subtle tundra
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says so in my name

midnight mist
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True true !

lost wadi
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It says I should be doing 1.8

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M

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And my rings beat circlet

subtle tundra
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reallllly?

lost wadi
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Yep

subtle tundra
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i doubt?

storm hedge
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My 684 ring is equal to circlet

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How does a 671 ring beat it

lavish wing
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wrong gems probably

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so far i found like 2 684 rings that give me +5k dps and only one that gives me +18k

lost wadi
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How other rogues burst for 5 m while i barely for 3

lavish wing
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did u sim ur circlet with these gems

lost wadi
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Yeah I fcked up

lavish wing
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there u go 😄

lost wadi
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Circle is better

lavish wing
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we all went through it sooner or later

lost wadi
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Yeah but it doesn't make me better 😂

lavish wing
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well

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if u link ur sim here i can take a look

lost wadi
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Ok 👌 I'll do it when I get home

lavish wing
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what I see from raider io page u have currently bleed build on i guess

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which could also be the reason why ur st is not simming very high

lost wadi
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Yeah I have st talents as well

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But low dps

winged sun
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Sup friend

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Jerry here

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U need help?

lost wadi
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Me?

winged sun
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No, me

lost wadi
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I'm nibbles

winged sun
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Who else would i be talking to

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Ur st low or what

lavish wing
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to Varas

lost wadi
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Yeah I do low dps

winged sun
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St or aoe

lost wadi
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Both

winged sun
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Fuck

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I cant help u with that

lost wadi
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Oh ok

lavish wing
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another option would be that u turned off raid buffs during simmin

haughty flicker
lavish wing
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1.8M st is ok dps without raid buffs

lost wadi
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But that's aoe build

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And I dont do that much

lavish wing
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u sim 1.8M in dungeon slice?

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with aoe build?

lost wadi
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St

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In dungs

lavish wing
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thats alright bro

lost wadi
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I do around 1m

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Tho

lavish wing
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so you took st build and simmed if for dungeon slice?

lost wadi
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I forgot to change talents

lavish wing
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ok i officially have no clue what u simmed now 😄

lost wadi
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But these are my aoe talents

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I simmed my aoe talents for st

lavish wing
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then u r fine

lost wadi
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Ok

lavish wing
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and u do less cause u r missing half the buffs

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and ofc ur rota might not be perfect but its not horrible either i guess

lost wadi
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If I play single target build tho I see other rogues burst for 5-6 m

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In raid

near valley
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damn I wish I was bursting 6 million wtf

lavish wing
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well with potion, lust n all the shit

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hittin good envenom of like 25M

jaunty sky
lavish wing
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its a singularity

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in time

near valley
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tbf i ain't looking at my details 5 secs into a fight

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fuck that

lavish wing
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WHAT

near valley
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my ego starts panicking when execute phase starts

lavish wing
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how do u know then if u have to cause a wipe to start over

golden loom
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Dev evokers do like 30m damage with their first global, nerf!!!!!

near valley
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ripping threat from a raid boss goes giga hard though

jaunty sky
#

Had that happen in 10s yesterday

grim jay
#

Sounds like you both have some shitty tanks

jaunty sky
#

I mean it's pug 10s

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I played like shit too OMEGAKEKW

royal lantern
#

tbf, when people start ultra blasting with CDs when the tank poked the enemys once

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they are a bit dumb lmao

grim jay
#

Tanks can just use taunt

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Tho

royal lantern
#

taunt 9 enemys? dracthyr_kek

grim jay
#

They were talking about boss

lavish wing
#

wait for that last mob in dfc and dm... 😄

royal lantern
#

oh ye Boss

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i mean

#

you pull bosses with taunting as one of the first gcds lol

grim jay
#

Funny enough, many people seemingly dont

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One tank in my guild back then didnt either

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And at that time he already had multiple CEs

#

So bad like idk

jaunty sky
#

Chadge what's an interrupt

grim jay
#

On the other hand tanking raid isnt really difficult at all

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So you dont need to know much about what you are doing

viscid spear
#

Is there a specific build for Visions or would a Delve one be good?

jaunty sky
#

Should be fine for the start

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Remeber to pick up the move speed in stealth

#

I just run m+ build with movespeed talent

viscid spear
#

What did you drop for Shadowrunner?

#

Rushed Setup probably

jaunty sky
jaunty sky
viscid spear
#

I tried to do the Dwarven District, lol

jaunty sky
#

I did a full run without masks

half snow
#

!guide

jaunty sky
#

I think I'll do more once the greater enchants are available

potent raven
#

my fire mage gets accepted to any key

quartz relic
#

I don't know if I can explain this. Is there a way to track your priority target when you're switching targets, spreading poisons, or hitting CC? I always have the focus on the add I need to kick, but I'd like to have another add as my priority so I can get back to them quickly. Isn't there an aura that lets you mark an add and have it on a button next to it so I can get back to it quickly during a big pull? I don't know if I'm explaining myself well.

potent raven
#

my rogue doesnt get accepted to 12s when i timed a 13

quartz relic
# potent raven use a mark aura

But I would go back to it by clicking on its plater, right? If so, I'm not interested. When there are too many add , it becomes difficult. I would like something like when you press focus, where the button appears on the screen.

jaunty sky
brisk lily
#

@quartz relic yiu wanna go back to your marked with a macro ?

quartz relic
scarlet orbit
brisk lily
#

I got the same problem

#

The only way look to be adding color or light on the nameplate marked

#

Thats why i use

#

What*

velvet zenith
#

!log

prisma monolithBOT
#

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

velvet zenith
#

!logreview

prisma monolithBOT
#

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

jaunty sky
#

@velvet zenith make a thread for it

velvet zenith
#

im a noob how u do that

potent raven
#

wow.. 4 mill overalll...

#

im so sexual

#

my mage has more ilvl than my rogue and i barely played it wtf

potent raven
#

but its so fun

royal lantern
#

"alt friendly" means "heroic gear is the baseline"

potent raven
#

ive geared 5 alts to 670 this season lol

#

my dk is close to 680

royal lantern
#

like, it so dumb

#

gearing is so giga fucked

potent raven
#

i just ran dungeons until i couldnt see

royal lantern
#

heroic gear is no reward anymore, its basically the 0 point

potent raven
#

ya

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its shit

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need myth

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or crafted

royal lantern
#

and crafting gives free mythic stuff outside of trinkets

potent raven
#

need to try n get as many crafts 680

royal lantern
terse pine
#

do I use crimson tempest in single target?

potent raven
#

only with bleed build ye

#

heroic gear is lowkey so shit after turbo boost

grim jay
#

Turboboost is lowkey shit

royal lantern
#

its such a artifical "oh you finished gearing? now gear again so we have more playtime" thing

shrewd night
near valley
grim jay
grim jay
near valley
#

shiennar a societal menance

shrewd night
#

People have been crying for ways to artificially nerf content so more people can experience it, and when they do "its shit 300_pepe_cry"

royal lantern
shrewd night
#

People unable to be happy about anything

#

SHEEEEEESH

golden loom
#

I liked ilvl increase

#

got me to do some keys 🙂

royal lantern
shrewd night
#

Bro, I play feral, Id be happy being touched once

royal lantern
#

instead of now relying on % dmg/healing buffs in the raid and a ilvl grind again halfway trought a season

grim jay
solid canopy
#

Can you evasion two bombs on mythic mug’zee?

golden loom
#

I mean they also did nerf a bunch of the raid

shrewd night
#

(an ilevel grind you get naturally by filling your vault? Why yes, such a fucking grind)

golden loom
shrewd night
#

The turboboost is only shit if you dont actually log in

#

And you can quote me on that

royal lantern
#

and next season its the baseline they will balance the game around, dont forget that one shien :3

solid canopy
grim jay
near valley
#

wait wrong person

shrewd night
#

Tryan, you are about to make me crash out on god fr fr

near valley
#

offer still stands tbf

royal lantern
#

so you finished the tier and took a break? fuck you, you are behind now when the next season drops dracthyr_kek

royal lantern
golden loom
shrewd night
#

So they should just not do anything because the vocal minority dont have time to get it as fast as others?

grim jay
#

And not annoying

shrewd night
#

I have no idea how you access to my sweaty monday socks, but could you stop snorting them please

grim jay
#

Having their special item and stacking buff is enough. Thats not even remotely debatable

near valley
grim jay
near valley
#

idk i think turboboost is a net positive overall

#

i actually came back to do keys

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chasing ilvls is my high

golden loom
#

like if you have finished the tier by the time it released AND dont reclear or do any M+ or anything else then yeah you dont get the ilvls

#

but u also dont need the ilvl at that point

midnight mist
#

I hate the turboboost because it means my alt is supposed to be 675 instead of 665 now

#

And I cba Playing my alt

shrewd night
#

zamn

golden loom
#

and if u care that much about next tier starting point just do 1 or 2 days of keys garf

near valley
#

ur on ur outlaw generational run arc atm

shrewd night
#

People let fomo get to their head. Noone is going to murder three generations of your family because you spend 2-3 weeks getting what degens get in 2 days

royal lantern
#

i saw ion in the black van across the street

gentle belfry
#

Any possibility sub pulls ahead in M+ after tuning pass tomorrow? I'm assuming not

royal lantern
#

and my brother is missing for 3 days now

grim jay
near valley
#

what's the unartificial way?

grim jay
#

People that like that kind of ilvl increase are the same people that buy Fifa every year and wonder that its the same shit every time at some point

near valley
#

the organic

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the wholefoods

#

the kosher

shrewd night
#

No

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Nah

#

You cant swear in the lords building

#

Aint no way you are comparing me to the aPES_Cough FIFA people

grim jay
scarlet orbit
#

Also the feeling after such a huge power gain like this where a boss just falls over randomly doesnt feel great. Happend to us at Mugzee it just felt over.

royal lantern
#

you deserve that

shrewd night
#

I like my raidspot, aint no way I could argue feral for stix

near valley
#

u have other druids?

shrewd night
#

We didnt at the time

near valley
#

should have held em hostage till negotiations opened up

shrewd night
gentle belfry
#

What would generally be the optimal comp for a M+ static that has a shitty little sin rogue in it 👶

Veng/Disc/Boomy/X/rogue?

shrewd night
grim jay
shrewd night
#

especially if the outlul gear was 10 ilevels lower than it should be

#

I take that back, that was mean

scarlet orbit
grim jay
shrewd night
#

MM hunter? hmm

glass raptor
earnest remnant
shrewd night
gentle belfry
shrewd night
#

mw = mistweaver

gentle belfry
#

Oh I'm blind ty

potent raven
#

who else sinin they rogue

normal mist
#

Me

wide gorge
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
fathom nimbus
#

!chainpull

prisma monolithBOT
#

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

  • For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
  • Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
  • Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
  • Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
  • Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
  • You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.
potent raven
#

np

fathom nimbus
#

if u were in a grp optimizing eye and never leaving combat as much as possible how much do i stand to lose dps wise?

royal lantern
#

not much

shrewd night
#

Fuck your healers mana and ur tanks cds. We pulling.

royal lantern
#

are you playing with a resto shaman?

shy axle
#

how exactly do you play the candle boss in darkflame? I thought you would just light as much fires as possible and and extinguish as many as possible - i heard today you light as many as possible but never extinguish more than one, is that true and how it is played?

potent raven
#

no, u extinguish one so u have a safe spot

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u light up as many as possible then everyone stacks on one candle u extinguish

#

that is the correct way

brisk lily
#

Guys, i checked wow analyser but it look he is wrong for assa on 2 point

#

He absotuly want to put rupture back on pandemic timer, but if you in burst and evenom time to cycle a darknest night, you dont wanna put rupture on pandemic absoluty no ?

#

And the other, he dont wanna use fan on knife on buff (+1 CP) in ST, but actually i do it, is that bad ?

near valley
gritty laurel
#

you should try to manage your ruptures better than to allow it to fall off during DN windows, but you're correct that DN is priority over rupture reapplication

you use clear the witnesses if you are not specced into vicious venoms. if you have vv, then you don't use FoK in single target (going from 6 to 7 combo points with FoK is roughly even to just slamming another VV mutilate in that scenario, too)

brisk lily
#

I actually use Fok in 2 situations.
1 : clear the wit buff
2 : going 6CP to 7Cp when darkness night is up

Its thz right way i believe

gritty laurel
#

it's correct if you don't spec into vicious venoms, which is what i just said

brisk lily
#

I try to manage my rupture and garrot debuff, but it happend

gritty laurel
#

yup, it'll happen from time to time

brisk lily
#

I feel he id also wrong about tea.
I'v macro kriss+tea cause its a good idea no ?^^
And i put kriss just after deathmark before KB so yeah i got some over energy during that tea.
Wow analyser think its bad

gritty laurel
#

it's almost certainly out of date. macroing tea to shiv is the right call

#

even in season 1 you'd overcap energy with the first tea most times because you wanted to use it and get it on cooldown asap

brazen sluice
shrewd night
brazen sluice
#

nvm

viscid spear
lyric gate
#

feels kinda bad that the item level raise neglated every progress you have done all season

#

need a hu

#

hug

sudden brook
#

Well not really because it means u had to do less farming to get to max gear

lyric gate
#

you dont get my point

#

i was more talking about rio

sudden brook
#

Ah I see

strange python
stable cove
#

with bleed build, is it more important to spread bleeds or spam envenom during dm?

#

and does dm double envenom damage?

novel star
#

it just doubles the bleeds and poisons that are already ticking on that one target

#

so the spread question is also unrelated to DM

#

dm is just a "do a little more damage to this one guy" button

#

unless youre using it to stack kb faster

#

which you arent

#

because you dont have it

stable cove
#

so is it reasonable to apply dm to prio then just go back to spreading bleeds?

#

while trying to maintain caustic during dm window

novel star
#

sure yea

#

do the opener like normal just spend the rest of the subterfuge time afterwards doing more ruptures

stable cove
#

tysm

novel star
#

get thru the dsm 5 rups ct checklist before dm (nothing new) then rip more rups because bleed good yummy tasty and envenom kinda small penis

stable cove
#

best explanation ive heard

#

when u apply dm it is essential to hit an envenom after before going back to bleeds?

#

or its too small?

novel star
#

not really since youre not trying to use dm to stack kingsbane anymore

stable cove
#

makes sense

leaden root
#

I have 658 haste/mast bracers and 658 crit/mast cloak. I have enough crests to craft another 681 piece. What should I replace? Or wait for vault tomorrow?

stable cove
#

i didnt know if the poison app inc was essential for the prio dmg or not

novel star
#

at least afaik its pretty whatever

stable cove
#

but wait for vault

#

might as well

#

dont wanna craft cloak then get mythic track cloak in vault next day lol

novel star
#

spatter uptime is still great and it does giga dam but with bleeds being so strong and dropping like all of the envenom talents + kb envenom usage isnt as strict anymore

leaden root
#

Yeah my luck I would craft cloak and get m track chewys towel tomorrow

#

I crafted engineering helm with straight mastery on it and I’m kind of regretting that so hopping to replace that with m track helm

stable cove
#

with the hybrid/forced induction build do u just not even spread garrote?

vivid mulch
#

!pooling

prisma monolithBOT
#
  • Energy just is low on the spec there's nothing to do about it, you will run out
  • Only one pooling condition exists (pool around 4 seconds before non-deathmark kingsbanes until 150ish energy). This is worth 0.3%
  • Other optimizations are simply not impactful enough to show a benefit in sims, but pooling before quick-dying add spawns could in theory be a practical gain to pad.
keen tree
#

hi - got burned out and stopped playing wow some time ago. Am now bored of LE, PoE1 and PoE2 🙂 Want to return to wow and pick just one toon to focus on. Is Assa ok for pugging m+? I mean I know dps queueing is hard but assa extra rough or is it fine?

winter willow
#

it's average for me

royal lantern
#

Performance wise assa is really good

#

but no BL/no CR class is always not great for pugging

keen tree
#

do you guys have problems with pug tanks not giving you time to restealth?

royal lantern
royal lantern
keen tree
#

how come btw?

winter willow
#

double vanish, just spread ruptures, etc

runic hinge
#

!chainpull

prisma monolithBOT
#

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

  • For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
  • Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
  • Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
  • Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
  • Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
  • You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.
winter willow
#

i only ask for time to restealth when i'm top dps and the others are crap

keen tree
#

thx - i've got so much to learn. off to the faq and wowhead i go!

winter willow
#

also ignore the !chainpull, that 1% hp chain pull is real and the real chain pull

keen tree
#

haha 🙂

golden loom
strange python
#

oh, thank you!

keen tree
#

god damn i can't understand most of that sentence 😦 and yes i AM a boomer.

wary crow
#

I'm curious but why sin is more common in high key than outlaw. they got less damage/mobility/surviviability no?

keen spruce
#

Less breaks dungeon go faster

#

Dungeon go faster more group damage

#

More group damage more timed keys

keen tree
#

plus all the outlaw players are probably being treated for repetitive strain injury atm.

wary crow
wary crow
keen spruce
wary crow
#

Outlaw don't really need breaks nah ?

keen spruce
#

I was responding to mega about Restealths

wary crow
#

AH

keen spruce
#

Outlaw actually does need restealths lol

wary crow
#

yes but they can do it by themself

stable cove
#

if you dont run shrouded suffocation do you bother maintaining garrote on st?

wary crow
rotund oak
strange python
#

outlaw is higher skill ceiling and target capped - which is why sin is more popular

wary crow
stable cove
rotund oak
#

for mid range keys sin is prolly better,if not in general

#

right now

#

for higher keys i dont rly know,havent done any this season

wary crow
strange python
wary crow
rotund oak
wary crow
#

just outlaw feel bad when i die and on some boss. KS is horrible to play around

strange python
wary crow
#

I'm not doing some hard hard key tho !

rotund oak
wary crow
#

like 12-13 for the moment

rotund oak
#

sin is just smoother and has a big advantage coz it performs basicly good everywhere

#

better allarounder

#

and although sin doesnt use iron wire on the bleed build u can still replace 2nd shiv to IW and carry interrupts on the group

#

Long story short,IW>>>Outlaw

strange python
#

does IW count as interrupts on details?

wary crow
rotund oak
#

u just provide dmg mitigation and silence

strange python
wary crow
#

i think if you cancel a spell it appear

rotund oak
wary crow
#

as silence from DH

strange python
#

i dont think it counts as a kick cause it doesnt nature lock or whatever its called

wary crow
#

nether does the silence sygil

strange python
#

oh then idk

#

maybe its just details

wary crow
#

same from pal prot, every shield that cancel a spell is a cut

strange python
#

idk, havent ran IW since season 1, and it for sure didnt show up on details

wary crow
#

but tbh it's still a 5sec silence, it's huge

rotund oak
#

IW is very powerful,2nd shiv is just more dmg

#

so u make the choice

wary crow
#

smoll pp big dps

#

sorry

strange python
#

yes, maybe useful on priory but dont think its super needed

rotund oak
#

yup i usually play it coz ppl dont have interrupts in their bars

#

ild rather burn a vanish and gar everything

#

and time the key

#

rather than do more dps

#

its whatever

#

12-13 wont matter

#

its weekly stuff

wary crow
#

but i was more curious about the popularity of sin overall

rotund oak
#

it probably provides same results

#

with less effort

#

and its more consistent

#

doesnt suffer from downtime

wary crow
#

outlaw is indeed harder but when u do 15+ i think it doesn't matter that much

#

yeah true

rotund oak
#

u overestimate outlaw

#

but sure,if u like it its ok

wary crow
#

i just see bigger damage and more cd. but indeed it's a double edge sword

keen tree
#

there's crafted gear you can make without the crest things right? for a fresh toon? im jhust wondeirng how to get my season 1 fresh 80 in to some gear he can use to get going.

rotund oak
#

gives veteran gear

#

645 upgraded will set u right

keen tree
#

oh wait - you can go to quartermsters too i seem to remember

rotund oak
#

craft couple from enchanter runes from max renown rewards

#

658 ilvl

#

u can que keys starting from 650-ish

keen tree
#

cool!

#

god when you haven't played wow for a few months its all so mind blowingl confusing - especially when coming back to a class you ahven't played in years

rotund oak
#

dw fam,rogue discord is here for you

#

plenty of ppl to help

keen tree
#

one of the reasons i chose rogue, and especially sin, apart from the fact that its my first class from 2004, is the discord 🙂

normal mist
#

Yo chill, don't act like we are helpful and kind to newcomers / returning rogues

#

We're supposed to be the toxic ones

keen tree
#

hahaha

rotund oak
#

''puts poisons on the daggers''

normal mist
#

"which poisons?"

#

!poison

prisma monolithBOT
#

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

  • Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
    Non-Lethals:
  • Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

normal mist
#

To be fair this command should be !poisons and not !poison

#

SINCE ITS MULTIPLE POISONS

rotund oak
#

i blame the whispyr

normal mist
#

me too dw

keen tree
#

whispyr is another reason i came back - he helped me a lot just before he got 'famous' 🙂

normal mist
#

He still isn't famous

#

he's hated

keen tree
#

one min im dm'ing him.. next thing i know im seeing him in videos on youtube.

rotund oak
#

we gonna make him overthrow them bozos and take a rightful place in warcraft podcasts

#

next to Ion

indigo sinew
#

how close do you have to be to the secondary boss for spatter to hit on cauldron?

runic hinge
#

12 yards is spatter range, it hits when they are together

indigo sinew
#

oh it hits regardless of where you are standing?

spring prawn
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
coral ibex
#

no

#

its 12y from the center of your target, plus another check 12y around you PLUS also being within melee range of the boss

#

check the pins

runic hinge
#

the two bosses hitboxes are close enough together it hits, but there are other checks for bosses with large hitboxes like gally

coral ibex
#

green is valid caustic

indigo sinew
#

oh i see the pin

keen tree
#

are assa rogues reasonably self sustaning/sufficient for things like delves for example?

#

@rotund oak is this one of the nightfall event quests you mentioned?

rotund oak
#

has a starter timer

#

and there is a camp outside meredar

keen tree
#

oh i think this might be new for me

spring prawn
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
keen tree
#

says the counter attack beings in 00:00 lol.. i think i better read up onthis

rotund oak
#

just fly there

#

its on going

keen tree
#

gotta sort out talents and stuff first

rotund oak
#

jsut run there

keen tree
#

and ui

rotund oak
#

no talents

#

take the quests and complete it

#

its irrelevant

keen tree
#

oh ok

rotund oak
#

just move there asap

keen tree
#

flying now

#

i see a quest on the map called radiant call