#assassination
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i thionk it was fine
outlaw is turboswamp
you are turboswamp
real
hey man go back to your filthy channel
you said outcuck is good
outlaw is turbo good
Turbo is good
Ya go back to your pirate channel
never
you can stay
pirates are known to raid and plunder

🫶
If outlaw channel is so good then why doesn't it have the pet pictures thread
you guys are so cooked you have drama in your tc channels
surely not cause of me

yeah but it was worth it
Did I miss something?
Also that’s normal
Varas gets silly somethings
And other peoples get silly
Cause sin fotm spec
theres a certain person i dont get alone with here

Me?
Did u and whispyr break up?
Wtf
youre cute
youre french

but youre forgiven zac cause you gave me freeze corleone and his lyrics are too good
sexpedition 33
lune my beloved
Oh
my favorite feet queen
Monoco my beloved
I like french ppl like this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Paul_Sartre
Jean-Paul Charles Aymard Sartre (, US also ; French: [saʁtʁ]; 21 June 1905 – 15 April 1980) was a French philosopher, playwright, novelist, screenwriter, political activist, biographer, and literary critic, considered a leading figure in 20th-century French philosophy and Marxism. Sartre was one of the key figures in the philosophy of existe...
Monoco best characer
funny because french people don't like french people x)
Same with Portuguese
i love romanians just theres a subset of the population i dont ever wanna interact with
you have beautiful women there
which is like 40% of the population
and men
How do you understand the lyrics lol, are you french
i mean i dont wanna flex.. but sure ye why not
I'm french and I don't understand the lyrics
i read them
i know its fire
?

wtf, we're talking about freeze now on this channel?
i love non-serious music
I hate non-serious music
the duality
to every ying, a yang
too many french here
real
yeah
french women are hot and have an attitude, love em
I hate omelette du fromage
spit your shit indeed
not my mom
thanks a lot, i will buy a french tacos to celebrate
Fun fact : Scarlett Johanson is french canadian
Every french has an attitude, but not the sexy latina type attitude

based
Never liked her ngl
same for me 😦
u don't even replied last time I'm sad
non pitié
!
i haev too many people yapping now
its hard
since i dont talk with a mic
u're too popular bro
stop beeing strong at the game
She's a fantasy of mine,two kids 
Jennifer Aniston will forever be the hottest celeb mum

She is greek from Crete..
also very short iirc
holt shit
not that scarlett plays on nba
miau
but you know
rebecca fergusson
it's pouler
Idk, never been one for the small girls
My girl is 176cm
making me jealous
i rarely see girls over 1.7
also 1.76cm?
thats dicksize or
single man and loving it
(although i do want someone to tell me to hit my breaks when i go stupid)
thats small tbf
Typo
even for a girl dick
What
what
i do certainly thirst over tall women
All woman are good
Imo everything up to 180cm is fine, so I certainly did cut it close
except you if you were a woman
Above 170 is fire

above 180 are so rare i dont worry about it
Your jelly cause French
and the best outalw
She also hits the Gym regularly with me, thats the best part
??
french are fine,just weird and kinda think they are good in everything,their food is average,kind ppl but thats it.They do have the most productive economy in E.U rn though
French propaganda
ahahahaha
best food after speaking about french tacos
either internet ppl loves us or trash talks us
More often the latter
Im sorry pal
Mostly memes not actual hate
People who actually hate specific peoples are weird and cringe
hate is weakness,i aint weak brother
Because many refuse to speak english and are bad at video games. Most gamer hate comes from LoL people

sometimes it's limit
need a french baddie to eat cheese wiwth
i do get drunk on red wine very quickly if anyone is interested
not talking about u btw, rogue players are the bests
I need a French baddie with a baguette and mime painting
Ewww red wine. Chads drink white wine.
i drink both?
honnesly frenches are not the worst on LoL, imo Spanish and Italians are worst
finally, mug and zee are down, just gally to go 🙂
Yes this is a sin question facist mods
People around here kinda just drink it when they feel like it
Like everyone should
Just consume what you wanna consume

should i just spend as many evenom as i could in kingsbane, despite overwriting 2 stacks?
Grats
You can often spot the french tho
I barely recognize italian or spanish people
But french often have it either in their name or write something french at some point
(Personal experience, might not be representative)
You dont really overwrite stacks and you just hack away anyways
No pooling or anything, except to half energy before your non DM kb
If you so choose
y I agree
After you KBed, you just spam again
I'm ashamed when a french do shit in my lobby
Puto
putain
So am I for my fellow germans that often behave like apes
Puta
u shouldnt each person is accountable for what he does
not an entire nation
thats silly
silly goose
ye but it gives us a bad reputation
It like when ppl of ur age do shit in the street
Lol
Only for ppl that dont know how to think.Idk if u know who Khuna was(prolly the best french rogue,extremely fast,very skilled)that doesnt mean all french rogues are Khunas 😉
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
hahahahaha
I only know OL players, and zeross
So basically german
bad companies friend,bad companies
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
Didn't they mention there'd be a stat squish next expansion or was that something I hallucinated
I'm so tired of big numbers and also equally tired of stat squishes
He also used exs on a target that didnt have all dots
Iirc they did mention it. Dunno by how much tho
The last one was kind eh
Iirc
How many stat squishes are we on now?
3 but they are being made more often i think if you count when they also krangled lvls
2 if not
legion->bfa and then sl->df i think?
i think it was bfa=>sl
i do remember one kinda in mop to wod
so yea 3
i do remember hitting things for 20m+ then on bfa way less but i dont think it was a super squish
For the final boss of wow they need to unsquish us and let things go wild
least after corruptions
Last wow expansion:
World of Warcraft: REMIX
I can see that being a kind of end of life thing for the game. No new content, but each new season revisits a previous season with some tweaks etc
Hopefully I won't be playing wow by then
We all will be
Don't forget, you're here forever
Honestly, it's meh.
I enjoy the game but I don't see myself enjoying it forever
My love for this seasonal gameplay is getting gommaged
I lately am in that on-off mood
So many different things to play
Also rl
new rank 1 rogue loading
If anything I want to make YouTube videos like that one YouTuber dad that does m+ with his son and daughter, it's so wholesome
I still have an unfinished ac shadows playthrough, play bdo on the side, lately in that CoD feeling again and oh so much irl. No baby tho. 
They're like 6-9 yo
im so afraid to make kids,i would die sleepless,wouldnt close my eyes ever
Just be like that woman in my old guild
I have a 1 year old that was my biggest fear too but it’s not that bad
Constantly yelling at her child with mic unmuted until she gets reminded
While raiding

Do we refresh garrote and rupture in m+ without vanish?
Rupture yes
Garrote only on Mt if spattering/prio
MT? :)
Main target
I'm so afraid of the first months man
okm I see. So can assa fit in just as well with a phys comp as magic?
sin fits everywhere
I play with my Vdh friend for keys, we have been going phys comp. but would it be smarter to just lean fully into magic?
are u pushing for 17-18s+?
you still benefit way more from stuff like mystic touch, its just chaos brand isnt completely useless
y
u should consider asking higher rated ppl/teams,some times general rules dont apply in higher keys
but in general idk if rogue can fit in this meta in higher keys and where
havent pushed that high
Iirc Whispyr said its about the same
Lemme dig
no idea
i know fuu added raid buffs to his sheet so thats all i have to go off currently
unless i felt like simming it myself but i'd have to log in and shit
For you aswell
Does mag'har orc have a dmg edge over orc in pve dps? (Been seeing a lot of mag'har's lately)
Races are mostly irrelevant
Race sims are on bloodmallet
For what its worth
Appreciate it
interesting
tried zeroes build in a 17 pug workshop and got humbled , bleed is so much less work lmao
kingsbane /no subterfuge is very cringe
Its kinda the same hybrid does
Which was the play most of the time
this my first tier in a long time so i dont have hybrid as good as i am at bleed yet either , skill issue
get 5 ruptures out->CT->start spamming envenom into the big target and cleave
thats all 
would this change much depending on build?
I dont ´really fancy running bleed build
I like going supercharger + 2x shiv
Bleed probably makes a diff id guess
do you perhaps know what it would be, running a poison + bleed build? like this one? would it make a difference?

Would make monk slightly less than 2%ish and dh slightly more than 2%ish
new chinese poison bleed build 
great 🙂 thanks
Call it 1.8 and 2.2 if you want idk man
People worry so much about raid buffs
When it’s really like
Warrior and shaman good
Everything else who cares
i care
nvm i lied
I know you don’t
when running the cleave build when opening from stealth(ig 5-8 target) is it still best to use garrote as your main generator in IC despite losing SS\improved garrote? I tried to check on the guide and it says so but it seems weird since the CP gain is way less and the garrote dam is way less and delays going into spatter env spamming by a lot with only 1cp garrote
ive not played that build but i wouldnt use garrote unless i was gonna deathmark
ambush fok rupture ct/rupture fok fok rupture/ct(dont know the exact prio) would be my guess
!feint
Atrophic poison/feint in Raid: > Click to open Sheet <
i tried it like ambush gar, fok rupture rupture fok(till 5cp) CT , mut dm kb fok env spam
that seems fine
i wish they would make ambush apply spatter also, its kinda cringe to have a separate keybind to mut for if ur coming to next pack with darkest night with cps already
ambush does apply spatter
zeross build is an iq test
what a time to be alive
im kinda sure they mean it more like "apply spatter without needing rupture on the enemy"
U need rupture on target to spatter
what does having a seperate keybind for mut do then
it is 6 am i am so dumb



"can you press rupture 2x and crimson tempest once before you do your ST rotation"
fell for the ragebait l0l
only 2x 😛
just funny how people overcomplicate it tbh
its more or less the same thing we did before the current "bleed build" became more popular

i feel like i gotta spread more on big pulls, like brew first pull
fell for bait again
isnt varas the guy who stalked zerocool then got muted for typing shit abt him 24/7 HAHA
2 in a row
mfs cant say dumb shit and then hide behind "lmao its bait xd"
am i falling for bait
do i wanna
nvm peace and quiet
dont interact with the bait
😼
reformed
Thats just your appearance
It doesnt reflect your inner world
oh i am raging and seething
Same
have u tried just not being angry?
i am bottled up
or get laid 😄
🥜
yeaaa sad attention deprived guy..
I tho varas is a girl 😄
LOOL
Thats wild
hate to burst your immersion but he is a romanian lad
1 free ass slap
i know he's romanian
hiii stealthi long time no see
is he at least a romanian twink
im next door 😄
Do this discord have a log review channel or something like that?
Varas likes to look at meatlogs
yes! i am @gusty mirage s twink!
you kinda just have to post it here
use !log command
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/82185698?spec=Assassination&class=Rogue its my first tier playing rogue and i feel like im missing something becouse of my low parses
Heeey guys.
I got issue in m+ as assa spec only.
The thing is i put the target of my mark as focus, that i can come back in for CT and evenom.
But i cant put a focus for my kick and it happens that i miss my kick on some big pull.
Did you got same issue ?
dont use focus to keep track of your mark is the solution
How do you track it then ?
have a different color for the nameplate
Youre supposed to use darkest night asap
Not hold it for several finishers or lose your mark entirely
u can also use DM in the opener of Vexie
@subtle tundra you have clik on nameplate during pull ? But you have to switch many times to spread bleed
tbh that might depend of how quickly u put her into p2
thats how the spec is
a lot of target swapping
Or mouseovers for bleeds
That why i got a focus macro
i honestly admire ppl doing MO macros in large pulls
well then you cant use focus macro for kick
i tried being "pro m+ player", made Mo macro for frost strike, like im gonna do it properly
first pull, fck this shit
im hittin only main target
takes too much brain power until you get used to it
also i move my character/camera too much
it has to do with camera
Guys at what key level do you start using the force induction build?
i play mostly in birds perspective and it kinda fcks up nameplates
or is the bleed build just better overall?
still got 3k so... i guess no need to MO shit up until like 15s
thanks!
You dont so much ST before 16
Do yourself a favor and if ur playing bleed. Play with rupture/garrote on mouse over
And get used to playing woth mo
In the long run.. soooo much better
@teal patrol also induction got some good targetting without losing so much aoe dmg wich is important in evry key
You can save like several seconds for your time as induction
well the importance of prio depends on your comp
last season if you played with a shaman you had issues of too much prio
after the next reset im back to sub, baby
you Always where a sub
deep down, i gues 😄
but raided and did keys as assa for the past few weeks
tho i will continue as assa in raid most likely
Okey anything else that was noticed?
I didnt look much more besides seeing you effectively played most of the fights without hero talents no
Hi guys how much dps should I be making with this gear https://raider.io/characters/eu/stormscale/Véngéancé
somewhere between
3429
and erm
89472173*10^5
I suck so much
wheres ur circlet
more or less
no way 671 ring beats circlet
says so in my name
True true !
reallllly?
Yep
i doubt?
wrong gems probably
so far i found like 2 684 rings that give me +5k dps and only one that gives me +18k
How other rogues burst for 5 m while i barely for 3
did u sim ur circlet with these gems
Yeah I fcked up
there u go 😄
Circle is better
we all went through it sooner or later
Yeah but it doesn't make me better 😂
Ok 👌 I'll do it when I get home
what I see from raider io page u have currently bleed build on i guess
which could also be the reason why ur st is not simming very high
Me?
No, me
I'm nibbles
to Varas
Yeah I do low dps
St or aoe
Both
Oh ok
another option would be that u turned off raid buffs during simmin

1.8M st is ok dps without raid buffs
thats alright bro
so you took st build and simmed if for dungeon slice?
I forgot to change talents
ok i officially have no clue what u simmed now 😄
then u r fine
Ok
and u do less cause u r missing half the buffs
and ofc ur rota might not be perfect but its not horrible either i guess
damn I wish I was bursting 6 million wtf
Always the question for how long
WHAT
my ego starts panicking when execute phase starts
how do u know then if u have to cause a wipe to start over
Dev evokers do like 30m damage with their first global, nerf!!!!!
ripping threat from a raid boss goes giga hard though
Had that happen in 10s yesterday
Sounds like you both have some shitty tanks
tbf, when people start ultra blasting with CDs when the tank poked the enemys once
they are a bit dumb lmao
taunt 9 enemys? 
They were talking about boss
wait for that last mob in dfc and dm... 😄
Funny enough, many people seemingly dont
One tank in my guild back then didnt either
And at that time he already had multiple CEs

So bad like idk
what's an interrupt
On the other hand tanking raid isnt really difficult at all
So you dont need to know much about what you are doing
Is there a specific build for Visions or would a Delve one be good?
Should be fine for the start
Remeber to pick up the move speed in stealth
I just run m+ build with movespeed talent
Bleed build?
What did you drop for Shadowrunner?
Rushed Setup probably
Yeah
Ye
I tried to do the Dwarven District, lol
I did a full run without masks
!guide
Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue
I think I'll do more once the greater enchants are available
my fire mage gets accepted to any key
I don't know if I can explain this. Is there a way to track your priority target when you're switching targets, spreading poisons, or hitting CC? I always have the focus on the add I need to kick, but I'd like to have another add as my priority so I can get back to them quickly. Isn't there an aura that lets you mark an add and have it on a button next to it so I can get back to it quickly during a big pull? I don't know if I'm explaining myself well.
my rogue doesnt get accepted to 12s when i timed a 13
use a mark aura
But I would go back to it by clicking on its plater, right? If so, I'm not interested. When there are too many add , it becomes difficult. I would like something like when you press focus, where the button appears on the screen.
mage has BL, leaving easier choices for the rest of the spots
@quartz relic yiu wanna go back to your marked with a macro ?
I have a macro to kick focus, but I want a frame/button to easily return to the add I designated as priority.
Im not exactly sure if thats what your asking but i use "target Previous Enemy" to get back to the target i left before
Ah, i believe you cant saldy, until there is focus 1 / 2 / ect
I got the same problem
The only way look to be adding color or light on the nameplate marked
Thats why i use
What*
!log
Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage
Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/
!logreview
Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage
Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/
@velvet zenith make a thread for it
im a noob how u do that
wow.. 4 mill overalll...
im so sexual
my mage has more ilvl than my rogue and i barely played it wtf
but its so fun
i just ran dungeons until i couldnt see
heroic gear is no reward anymore, its basically the 0 point
and crafting gives free mythic stuff outside of trinkets
need to try n get as many crafts 680

do I use crimson tempest in single target?
Turboboost is lowkey shit
oh yeha, absolutely
its such a artifical "oh you finished gearing? now gear again so we have more playtime" thing
So is ur mom, now what

Low effort, annoying way to make people play the game and handicaps people that dont have that much time at a point where you usually dont need any
@balmy condor help
shiennar a societal menance
People have been crying for ways to artificially nerf content so more people can experience it, and when they do "its shit
"
ye
i cant even be angry at the people in my raidteam that are behind in gear rn
they could also just like
adjust stuff more often
Bro, I play feral, Id be happy being touched once
instead of now relying on % dmg/healing buffs in the raid and a ilvl grind again halfway trought a season
Thats literally what the rings and now belt/visions are for. They are "do something for a bit" type of thing, not a sink in hours again type of deal
Can you evasion two bombs on mythic mug’zee?
I mean they also did nerf a bunch of the raid
(an ilevel grind you get naturally by filling your vault? Why yes, such a fucking grind)
you can evasion the physical hit but would still get fucked by the fire damage DoT
The turboboost is only shit if you dont actually log in

And you can quote me on that
and next season its the baseline they will balance the game around, dont forget that one shien :3
Alright so It most likely will proc your cheat death anyway? Hahah
Its shit if you only have a couple hours outside of raid already
wait wrong person
Tryan, you are about to make me crash out on god fr fr
offer still stands tbf
so you finished the tier and took a break? fuck you, you are behind now when the next season drops 
why would you crash on god
yeah I mean I guess you can maybe Evasion AND cloak but theres better classes for doing the job 
So they should just not do anything because the vocal minority dont have time to get it as fast as others?
They could just stick with what they were doing anyways because thats enough
And not annoying

I have no idea how you access to my sweaty monday socks, but could you stop snorting them please
Having their special item and stacking buff is enough. Thats not even remotely debatable


Gotcha, thx for input
idk i think turboboost is a net positive overall
i actually came back to do keys
chasing ilvls is my high

like if you have finished the tier by the time it released AND dont reclear or do any M+ or anything else then yeah you dont get the ilvls
but u also dont need the ilvl at that point
I hate the turboboost because it means my alt is supposed to be 675 instead of 665 now
And I cba Playing my alt
zamn
and if u care that much about next tier starting point just do 1 or 2 days of keys 
would you play it even if it was 675?
ur on ur outlaw generational run arc atm
People let fomo get to their head. Noone is going to murder three generations of your family because you spend 2-3 weeks getting what degens get in 2 days
you say that
i saw ion in the black van across the street
Any possibility sub pulls ahead in M+ after tuning pass tomorrow? I'm assuming not
and my brother is missing for 3 days now
Doesnt change the fact that it feels bad and is just a stupid, artificial way to keep people playing
what's the unartificial way?
People that like that kind of ilvl increase are the same people that buy Fifa every year and wonder that its the same shit every time at some point
No
Nah
You cant swear in the lords building
Aint no way you are comparing me to the
FIFA people
That is kinda fitting, as it would be actual content
Im sorry, I take that back

Also the feeling after such a huge power gain like this where a boss just falls over randomly doesnt feel great. Happend to us at Mugzee it just felt over.
you played balance this tier a couple times
you deserve that
I like my raidspot, aint no way I could argue feral for stix
u have other druids?
We didnt at the time
should have held em hostage till negotiations opened up

What would generally be the optimal comp for a M+ static that has a shitty little sin rogue in it 👶
Veng/Disc/Boomy/X/rogue?


Understandable. Id sit on the bench if I ever got asked to play outlul tho

especially if the outlul gear was 10 ilevels lower than it should be
I take that back, that was mean

If this 4 specs are locked in the best would be mage just because mage is the best BL you can get atm
Its alright, since I hit you with the Fifa bat

MM hunter? 
Gdruid, mw, warrior, hunter is the go to for rogue phys comps
i volunteer for the job
Hit me with it racoonman
With a disc pref yeah?
mw = mistweaver
Oh I'm blind ty
who else sinin they rogue
Me
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
!chainpull
Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:
- For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
- Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
- Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
- Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
- Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
- You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.
np
if u were in a grp optimizing eye and never leaving combat as much as possible how much do i stand to lose dps wise?
not much
Fuck your healers mana and ur tanks cds. We pulling.
healer mana?
are you playing with a resto shaman?

how exactly do you play the candle boss in darkflame? I thought you would just light as much fires as possible and and extinguish as many as possible - i heard today you light as many as possible but never extinguish more than one, is that true and how it is played?
no, u extinguish one so u have a safe spot
u light up as many as possible then everyone stacks on one candle u extinguish
that is the correct way
Guys, i checked wow analyser but it look he is wrong for assa on 2 point
He absotuly want to put rupture back on pandemic timer, but if you in burst and evenom time to cycle a darknest night, you dont wanna put rupture on pandemic absoluty no ?
And the other, he dont wanna use fan on knife on buff (+1 CP) in ST, but actually i do it, is that bad ?
Pretty sure analyser hasn't been updated in a long time
you should try to manage your ruptures better than to allow it to fall off during DN windows, but you're correct that DN is priority over rupture reapplication
you use clear the witnesses if you are not specced into vicious venoms. if you have vv, then you don't use FoK in single target (going from 6 to 7 combo points with FoK is roughly even to just slamming another VV mutilate in that scenario, too)
I actually use Fok in 2 situations.
1 : clear the wit buff
2 : going 6CP to 7Cp when darkness night is up
Its thz right way i believe
it's correct if you don't spec into vicious venoms, which is what i just said
I try to manage my rupture and garrot debuff, but it happend
yup, it'll happen from time to time
I feel he id also wrong about tea.
I'v macro kriss+tea cause its a good idea no ?^^
And i put kriss just after deathmark before KB so yeah i got some over energy during that tea.
Wow analyser think its bad
it's almost certainly out of date. macroing tea to shiv is the right call
even in season 1 you'd overcap energy with the first tea most times because you wanted to use it and get it on cooldown asap
too much odablock?

nvm

feels kinda bad that the item level raise neglated every progress you have done all season
need a hu
hug
Well not really because it means u had to do less farming to get to max gear
Ah I see
you just gotta do it again
with bleed build, is it more important to spread bleeds or spam envenom during dm?
and does dm double envenom damage?
no
it just doubles the bleeds and poisons that are already ticking on that one target
so the spread question is also unrelated to DM
dm is just a "do a little more damage to this one guy" button
unless youre using it to stack kb faster
which you arent
because you dont have it
so is it reasonable to apply dm to prio then just go back to spreading bleeds?
while trying to maintain caustic during dm window
sure yea
do the opener like normal just spend the rest of the subterfuge time afterwards doing more ruptures
tysm
get thru the dsm 5 rups ct checklist before dm (nothing new) then rip more rups because bleed good yummy tasty and envenom kinda small penis
best explanation ive heard
when u apply dm it is essential to hit an envenom after before going back to bleeds?
or its too small?
not really since youre not trying to use dm to stack kingsbane anymore
makes sense
I have 658 haste/mast bracers and 658 crit/mast cloak. I have enough crests to craft another 681 piece. What should I replace? Or wait for vault tomorrow?
i didnt know if the poison app inc was essential for the prio dmg or not
at least afaik its pretty whatever
cloak more stats
but wait for vault
might as well
dont wanna craft cloak then get mythic track cloak in vault next day lol
spatter uptime is still great and it does giga dam but with bleeds being so strong and dropping like all of the envenom talents + kb envenom usage isnt as strict anymore
Yeah my luck I would craft cloak and get m track chewys towel tomorrow
I crafted engineering helm with straight mastery on it and I’m kind of regretting that so hopping to replace that with m track helm
with the hybrid/forced induction build do u just not even spread garrote?
!pooling
- Energy just is low on the spec there's nothing to do about it, you will run out
- Only one pooling condition exists (pool around 4 seconds before non-deathmark kingsbanes until 150ish energy). This is worth 0.3%
- Other optimizations are simply not impactful enough to show a benefit in sims, but pooling before quick-dying add spawns could in theory be a practical gain to pad.
hi - got burned out and stopped playing wow some time ago. Am now bored of LE, PoE1 and PoE2 🙂 Want to return to wow and pick just one toon to focus on. Is Assa ok for pugging m+? I mean I know dps queueing is hard but assa extra rough or is it fine?
it's average for me
Performance wise assa is really good
but no BL/no CR class is always not great for pugging
do you guys have problems with pug tanks not giving you time to restealth?

doesnt matter really
oh awesome! surprised to see this but happy to see it too.
how come btw?
double vanish, just spread ruptures, etc
!chainpull
Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:
- For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
- Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
- Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
- Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
- Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
- You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.
i only ask for time to restealth when i'm top dps and the others are crap
thx - i've got so much to learn. off to the faq and wowhead i go!
also ignore the !chainpull, that 1% hp chain pull is real and the real chain pull
haha 🙂
what is dsm
Deathstalkers mark
oh, thank you!
god damn i can't understand most of that sentence 😦 and yes i AM a boomer.
I'm curious but why sin is more common in high key than outlaw. they got less damage/mobility/surviviability no?
Less breaks dungeon go faster
Dungeon go faster more group damage
More group damage more timed keys
plus all the outlaw players are probably being treated for repetitive strain injury atm.
Not sure of the word "strain injury". That's something that come because of high APM?
yes
less break dungeon?
Less breaks, dungeon go faster*
Outlaw don't really need breaks nah ?
I was responding to mega about Restealths
AH
Outlaw actually does need restealths lol
yes but they can do it by themself
if you dont run shrouded suffocation do you bother maintaining garrote on st?
tottaly, because of energy at least
all rogue specs can do it by themselves
outlaw is higher skill ceiling and target capped - which is why sin is more popular
yes but outlaw just reduce hardly the cd of vanish
what ab like 2/3 target?
also needs certain amount of haste to function
for mid range keys sin is prolly better,if not in general
right now
for higher keys i dont rly know,havent done any this season
idk for this, but i think it's still good to apply
smaller pulls will make outlaw look better - like workshop for example
i see, it's just strange than one is "so popular" in comparaison. both look close at my level
ok !
close in terms of simming close ig aight?
ig, i play both, not perfectly for sure but overall i'm close on both
just outlaw feel bad when i die and on some boss. KS is horrible to play around
how annoying is it to play both lol, you got 2 gear sets, or do you recraft your gear?
2 gear set unfortunnaly, and i try to drop both needed items
I'm not doing some hard hard key tho !
well if u arent rly pushing higher keys like 17-18s there isnt rly a reason to worry,play whatever you love but outlaw is worse for couple of reasons.Haste to function and KS(aka deathlog parsing)
like 12-13 for the moment
sin is just smoother and has a big advantage coz it performs basicly good everywhere
better allarounder
and although sin doesnt use iron wire on the bleed build u can still replace 2nd shiv to IW and carry interrupts on the group
Long story short,IW>>>Outlaw
does IW count as interrupts on details?
Interesting
dont think so but doesnt matter
u just provide dmg mitigation and silence
i agree it doesnt matter, but some people are buttholes when it comes to the meters lol
i think if you cancel a spell it appear
some ppl need to learn the game better if u ask me,but im not here to argue 😛
as silence from DH
i dont think it counts as a kick cause it doesnt nature lock or whatever its called
nether does the silence sygil
same from pal prot, every shield that cancel a spell is a cut
idk, havent ran IW since season 1, and it for sure didnt show up on details
but tbh it's still a 5sec silence, it's huge
yes, maybe useful on priory but dont think its super needed
yup i usually play it coz ppl dont have interrupts in their bars
ild rather burn a vanish and gar everything
and time the key
rather than do more dps
its whatever
12-13 wont matter
its weekly stuff
but i was more curious about the popularity of sin overall
it probably provides same results
with less effort
and its more consistent
doesnt suffer from downtime
outlaw is indeed harder but when u do 15+ i think it doesn't matter that much
yeah true
i just see bigger damage and more cd. but indeed it's a double edge sword
there's crafted gear you can make without the crest things right? for a fresh toon? im jhust wondeirng how to get my season 1 fresh 80 in to some gear he can use to get going.
do the nightfall scenario/dailies
gives veteran gear
645 upgraded will set u right
oh wait - you can go to quartermsters too i seem to remember
craft couple from enchanter runes from max renown rewards
658 ilvl
u can que keys starting from 650-ish
cool!
god when you haven't played wow for a few months its all so mind blowingl confusing - especially when coming back to a class you ahven't played in years
one of the reasons i chose rogue, and especially sin, apart from the fact that its my first class from 2004, is the discord 🙂
Yo chill, don't act like we are helpful and kind to newcomers / returning rogues
We're supposed to be the toxic ones
hahaha
''puts poisons on the daggers''
You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:
Lethals:
- Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
Non-Lethals: - Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB
Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used
To be fair this command should be !poisons and not !poison
SINCE ITS MULTIPLE POISONS
i blame the whispyr
me too dw
whispyr is another reason i came back - he helped me a lot just before he got 'famous' 🙂
one min im dm'ing him.. next thing i know im seeing him in videos on youtube.
we gonna make him overthrow them bozos and take a rightful place in warcraft podcasts
next to Ion
how close do you have to be to the secondary boss for spatter to hit on cauldron?
12 yards is spatter range, it hits when they are together
oh it hits regardless of where you are standing?
!wa
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no
its 12y from the center of your target, plus another check 12y around you PLUS also being within melee range of the boss
check the pins
the two bosses hitboxes are close enough together it hits, but there are other checks for bosses with large hitboxes like gally
green is valid caustic
oh i see the pin
are assa rogues reasonably self sustaning/sufficient for things like delves for example?
@rotund oak is this one of the nightfall event quests you mentioned?
no,its the ones on hallowfall,far west
has a starter timer
and there is a camp outside meredar
oh i think this might be new for me
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says the counter attack beings in 00:00 lol.. i think i better read up onthis
gotta sort out talents and stuff first
jsut run there
and ui
oh ok
just move there asap



