assassination

[winged sun]

[hollow talon]

are these upgrades timegated too

NPC wont sell me more tokens

[haughty flicker]

i cant believe zeross is lying to discord chatters to secure r1 parses

smh

[gentle belfry]

What upgrade prio would you guys suggest for visions? for the tree

[hollow talon]

can only get 3 right now anyway

[haughty flicker]

you cant choose

its just the first 3

cant go down one branch

bc thats fun

[gentle belfry]

ohh top row

[hollow talon]

i run out of sanity cant really do more than 2 wings without sweating

3 might be doable if you are fast

[gentle belfry]

okay glad Im not the only one lol

[waxen oyster]

remember one potion color per run

[hollow talon]

without the upgrades its not ez

[waxen oyster]

gives 100 sanity when you pick it up

[balmy condor]

yes

[hollow talon]

ooh i forgot about the potions

[worthy rose]

sanity?

is this like yogg saron over againm

[haughty flicker]

no its like horrific visions over again

[bronze pike]

yes

idk i did 3 wings relatively fine

im sure 4 is doable if i sweated

and did potions

[waxen oyster]

you can do 4

4 with the mask that cuts your sanity in half might be rough

[bronze pike]

[winged sun]

[haughty flicker]

[waxen oyster]

well its old god stuff

so yes?

[worthy rose]

fair

[gritty laurel]

i don't even care i'm still in twilight devastation club

[gentle belfry]

so its not bugged? 👀

[alpine pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-cat-cute-yessir-gif-17449845613192073437

[winged sun]

heart of azeroth is now bis guys

(absolutely trying to lie to everyone rn)

[wise plume]

equip and log off to murlok bait

[winged sun]

i do that but i think they track last dungeon gear

so it doesnt work

[wise plume]

sadge

[winged sun]

i have to do a +2 with shit gear equipped or something

[wise plume]

worth

[winged sun]

ye true

xddddddddd

[timber meadow]

do you need to unlock each row entirely before the next row unlocks?

[haughty flicker]

one row a week

[timber meadow]

am i safe to assume i can put "yes and its" in front of your response

[fallen charm]

the next row it's unlocked next week

idk if you'll need all three to put 1 point on the second row next week

but it's safe to spend every point, no need to think

[haughty flicker]

one row a week

[ionic matrix]

Is it worth rupturing shielded adds on mugzee for energy?

[coral ibex]

yes

[ionic matrix]

thanks

[fallen charm]

just think: If it dies and you are not capping energy(almost ever), it's worth it

[fresh kelp]

this still doesn't

seem so good

idk how good void ritual is

but almost losing to fatal intent is a bad look 💀

[balmy condor]

that's the tuning

[fresh kelp]

isn't it supposed to be like 1%?

for lesser

[hollow river]

murlok is just an armory scraper, it doesn’t look at what you use in keys

it just takes time to update

[humble verge]

hmmm

its only 3:32am

[unreal flame]

do void ritual or echoing void have animations? i want the least intrusive as possible lol

[ionic matrix]

echoing void on mugzee also doing .5%

[unreal flame]

sacbrood eggs all over me was enough

[balmy condor]

yes

but all of them seem to be doing 0.5%ish

gushing was 0.5%

should be noted that these are 0.5% in not single target

like on sprocket they're doing 1-1.4%

[ionic matrix]

on mugzee I am seeing about .5% and its kinda st. like 90% ST

but lemee check all night

.43% on mugzee

[balmy condor]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/g8MGKZ4FPpW3tQxv?fight=7&type=damage-done&source=14

gushing's 1% here

[ionic matrix]

think its possible that MY echoing is bugged

and I need to reapply

or not possible?

[balmy condor]

echoing might not be fixed fully either idk

[blazing tulip]

Gushing did about 1,5% for me as well. Echoing seems really bad and twilight is about the same as Gushing

[hollow river]

whispyr do you know the proc rate for TD offhand?

[balmy condor]

just use something else for a while I guess if you super care about the 0.5%

[hollow river]

looks like 1.5?

[balmy condor]

yeah something like that

[hollow river]

kk

[fresh kelp]

my 0.5% log was from sprocket as well

could be rng but echoing void maybe still a bit bugged

[waxen oyster]

signet snapshots based on your stats when you pop right?

i fear seaforium will push signet to crit if my flask is on crit during the proc

[worthy rose]

time to tell murlok to not scrape any data below 15's

[balmy condor]

yes

[waxen oyster]

so it probs will tell me to drop crit if i use signet

hmm

[gentle belfry]

so gushing seems to be the move for now? for those who care

even in M+?

or would void just have less potential for loss in case it procs on an almost dead target

[winged sun]

https://murlok.io/character/eu/kazzak/zeross/pve

LOOOOOOL

[ionic matrix]

looks like the hamburglar

[winged sun]

Forgot to change talents fml

[gentle belfry]

We can buy other helm enchants right now after the quest right? with no limit?

[ionic matrix]

yes

500 each

[worthy rose]

bros being a meta slave

maghar orc

[ionic matrix]

gushing doing well on mugzee

compared to echoing

[severe sparrow]

damn this is it, ive peaked, ill never manage it again

[hollow river]

don't forget to put in the troll build with no DM

[hardy prairie]

question, can we cloak mugzee's ice spike?

[winged sun]

If u wanna die yea

[hardy prairie]

perfect

[spice surge]

Pretty sure you dont die

But you do get turned into ice

For 30s

Which is not great

[runic hinge]

Just get gripped to the proper side and…chill out

[sinful imp]

So, the head enchants, echoing void only added like 0.3% to my dmg overall in a 14 FG - which is a joke, heavily punished by movement etc

surely id be better running void ritual becuase of this?

@balmy condor ?

[balmy condor]

sure dude whatever you want

gushing is 0.5%

who cares

none of them are good

[worn geyser]

my 9% movespeed T_T

[hard river]

im sure you are enjoying this as much as i am

[winged sun]

[unreal flame]

@worn geyser same thing happened to me as well

[winged sun]

Guys guys 0.5% dps i wanna know whats better for my +10 key omgogmogmogmg

[runic hinge]

Zeross which helm enchant do I need to use to use your build

Damn. You beat me to the joke

[worn geyser]

im gonna be a snail

[winged sun]

Actually thats a secret

New cook cooked

[runic hinge]

[winged sun]

10% dps gain with my build

[runic hinge]

[winged sun]

0.6% with bleed build

So

Maakes my buuld op no cap

[runic hinge]

Op op

[waxen oyster]

no way 671 ring is good

[winged sun]

I made like 6 v60’s today im happy

Spammed brewing half my night

Didnt drink any of it most of it was just for taste and experiment

[balmy condor]

dude if I have to hear about X thing doing 0.4% and Y thing doing 0.6% and Z thing doing 0.3489590675456978457989823547349856734986798456%

one more time

I'm gonna lose it

[runic hinge]

Whispyr of the helm enchant sucks

[winged sun]

Then another guy is gonna show up omg but this 0.4% enchant did 0.7% in my last run

???????

[visual sun]

Comcast of helm enchant sucks

[winged sun]

Then the enchant battle will begin

[balmy condor]

guys my infinite stars did 0.9%???? BIS????

(it procced 25 times)

[lethal arrow]

[humble verge]

man ive turned my sleep schedule upside down

[waxen oyster]

just wait till the belt

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-aware-twitch-forsen-emote-gif-25354609

[waxen oyster]

whispyr gonna have a heyday

[humble verge]

wtf, farming dps

[lethal arrow]

ill get pushed out prob

[humble verge]

depends how long itll take

[burnt juniper]

can someone please tell me to the exact decimal how much dps each enchant should be giving

[waxen oyster]

People wondering why a 1% helm enchant is doing ~1% damage

[humble verge]

its every 12h no?

[lethal arrow]

idk

[nova kelp]

oh, oh? EVoid broken atm?

[lethal arrow]

its supposed to be our best

but they didnt ship the patch with the last batch of hotfixes

so void ritual is still strong

[humble verge]

so its locked in 8h

[spring prawn]

just got back to retail

626

outdpsing the 670 plebs xdd

[humble verge]

average casuals

kek

[lethal arrow]

just pray no one reclears in 8 hours

and no one progs it better than my guild did

[haughty flicker]

oab is going to be fun

i can tell

just based on these first few pulls

[old obsidian]

gg the fuking ring then :c

[indigo epoch]

Priory, 2nd boss, whats the correct way to cloak the orbs? pop it before? after?

how many can we cloak?

[native turret]

@balmy condor tldr what enchant do i want on myth mugzee tonight

[subtle kiln]

Gushing

[native turret]

gushing op?

[balmy condor]

I'm throwing you into a volcano

[native turret]

lmaooo i just got on im sorry

[balmy condor]

open pins

[snow hamlet]

[humble verge]

we did a reclear in 6

[humble verge]

well more like 5

[native turret]

wtf

[snow hamlet]

wow gushing god

[humble verge]

so

[old obsidian]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hUe9SjLyPyzXvaMVb1GVzS
put another ring is worth?

[lethal arrow]

i ran gushing for the vibe

theyre all the same

gushing just makes sense

[humble verge]

im waking up in 6h @balmy condor lmk wtf im gonna use for the enchant by then at the pins, or idk if u havent already done it - thanks

[sonic pagoda]

quick question without simming recrafts and all that bullsih

i got two daggers drops from rik now should i set ascendance to the side?

mainmythic of course

[native turret]

i dont think double 684 beats 684 + 681 ascendance

we aint outlaw, cant go double elemental

[sonic pagoda]

we can go double crit though

or do they have the mastery one now?

idk i have to fuckin sim it too many factorys

[native turret]

[subtle kiln]

Focusing lense

[native turret]

thats what i meant mb

[waxen oyster]

Doesnt sub go lens too

but yeah pretty sure in raid ascendance is still better for sin

[subtle kiln]

wasn’t when I simmed. Lens has some slight gains with ilvl

but sim yourself ofc

[worthy rose]

is the way i feel about +10's the way zeross feels about +14's

[worthy rose]

crazy

some people just wanna overanalyze

and minmax to the max

[fresh kelp]

r1 pace every pull on mugzee and we kill on the pull I get tank stunned twice and gaoled twice (priest failed grip both times)

[fervent fractal]

which lesser rune is every one picking?

[sonic pagoda]

Yeah i think i need to just sim a fuck load i got myth belt mythnc cloak and muth bracers

and thats true if i want to go sub for some ungodly reason idk why i would

we are progging mythic styx tomorrow see how it goes had a clean heroic reclear and then 1 shot first 2 and 2 shot rik

i can recraft lens to boots and recraft lens on to neck i think

nabbed a 94 parse on vexie so thats a good one to end on i think we do one more clear before we start using lockout to to push for prog

[misty holly]

I'm going with Y thing for 0.6%. Seems no brainer.

[sonic pagoda]

also i rather get all my shit for pushing m+ over raid raid is ez....idc

we are way over geared and getting borrowed power now it doesnt matter

[bronze pike]

my twlight dev did 3% overal

compared to .6% of my ev

whispyr explain

[runic hinge]

Twilight dev op you say?

[bronze pike]

sleeper tech

that tcers are gatekeeping

real real frfr ohio

rizz

[gentle belfry]

In the interest of pushing ilvl, would it make sense to craft gear to 675 then recraft later with augment +6? since its not worth as much ilvl relative to crest cost

[half tartan]

how does rogue get out of mugzee circles

[haughty flicker]

velf or get gripped

otherwise get fucked

[half tartan]

got it

[winged sun]

are u good at the game? No offense ofc

[haughty flicker]

[bronze pike]

as you said this

my twlight dev did 9 % more

[hollow river]

twilight dev good

[bronze pike]

im just built different

[winged sun]

Rly

[hollow river]

undersimming i think

[runic hinge]

It’s 90 crests either way. Save up or don’t but it’s extra mats to recraft

[bronze pike]

intuned with the greatest corruption since the start

[winged sun]

Thats nice to hear

[bronze pike]

so i mind mesh with it

and tell it to proc when i want it to proc for maximum damage

[winged sun]

I hope twilight dev ends up being super op

[bronze pike]

trust

i think its a gushing angle when greaters are release for st/raid. memes aside

[gentle belfry]

inconsequential mats tho yeah?

[runic hinge]

Depends on how rich you are tbh. I don’t think it’s a lot of gold but maybe you’re poor

[gentle belfry]

assuming rich, kind of a valid strat?

[gritty laurel]

the real twilight devastation tech is that getting the full benefit doesn't require me to even play correctly

[wise plume]

just let me put on max corruptions again so i can absolutely nuke a boss and then die 20 seconds later to my own apparations

[golden loom]

I mean crests are uncapped anyways

[runic hinge]

Do you need the upgrade so bad you can’t do 2 more 12’s?

[golden loom]

So I would just get craft out of the way

[gentle belfry]

its rly like that - I farm 12s with static but lfg below 670 is sad

[winged sun]

An someone link

Pverall witj tiwlightsevadatiaion

[gritty laurel]

oh no, he's having a stroke

[golden loom]

Calm down there buddy

[runic hinge]

I mean you’re not gonna get picked with 680 for 12’s either.

[gentle belfry]

tragic

[runic hinge]

At least I don’t lol

[winged sun]

Tis hard to type on phone while watching tv show

[bronze pike]

what show

[winged sun]

Reacher

[bronze pike]

dont know what that is

[winged sun]

Oh

[wise plume]

which reacher

[subtle kiln]

TD Details Show

[winged sun]

Ur the cooked rem guy

[bronze pike]

watching svu

[winged sun]

No way

[hollow river]

u do it

[bronze pike]

[winged sun]

Nah i sleep in 1 hr

I open vault then gg

[hollow river]

do sleep

wake up

then do it

ez

[winged sun]

Anyone can do it wdym

I wont play m+ anyway till after 17 hrs

Maybe 19

[wise plume]

anyone have an overall with gushing?

[bronze pike]

waiting to put my grandmother back in her room

or else ill play

[wise plume]

k ill do a 14 with gushing and post results

[winged sun]

Fuck gushing

Play twilight devastation

I wanna see that shit

Stop cooking

[wise plume]

on it

[indigo epoch]

on priory whats the most effective use of cloak on sacrificial pyre for baron? I'm shit and pop cloak run in, get 1 orb, then eat the 2nd while still having the debuff. whats the right way to do it?

[wise plume]

let a pally bubble and do it

[indigo epoch]

ok but other than that

[coral ibex]

cloak doesnt prevent stacks but it does remove them iirc

[indigo epoch]

can we cloak more than 1 or nah?

[coral ibex]

so just get a few and then cloak

[wise plume]

no clue, i just take 2 and cloak

[nova kelp]

feral disc saying that EVoid is fixed? Confirm or Deny?

[wise plume]

somewhat fixed, unsure

[burnt juniper]

you can, but if you get more than 2 there's a high likelihood you die before you can get the 3rd to cloak off

depending on key level

[shy creek]

If you can coordinate with ur priest, i ask for pain sup then am able to cloak 4 with feint and tank 1 on a 15

[true lintel]

surely this aint right

4 minutes

[wise plume]

yeah its bugged

run dev

[true lintel]

so the pinned message was a lie

dev over void ritual?

[nova kelp]

vritual better yeah

but dev gets rule of cool points

[waxen oyster]

They're all so tiny

doesnt matter

[winged sun]

If this was bfa your msg would end the world, back then people worshipped pinned msgs

Anytime someone sends something u get spammed

But ye twilight dev looks solid on details so far

[waxen burrow]

zeross

are u bullying my boy andre

[hollow river]

No. Some sort of fix was pushed but there’s still some fuckery happening apparently

[subtle kiln]

TD gives rogues a visual. A++ Corruption

[nova kelp]

agreed for visual addition, more points to devastidor!

[winged sun]

No no

Its just that sims arent always = real dps

So we kinda have the best sim thing pinned

[snow hamlet]

[winged sun]

Bfa were fun times

[waxen burrow]

hmm

sus

[winged sun]

Even if something was worse

[waxen burrow]

seems like

ur bullying my boty

XD

[winged sun]

If it simmed higher=better

[winged sun]

I mean

[balmy condor]

it aint my fault blizzard's fix fixes half of it and then it looks fine but not fine but fine

[waxen burrow]

im kidding

[balmy condor]

ugly ass game

[winged sun]

Ass is ass right

[waxen burrow]

well

yeah

[winged sun]

If ur ass is ass

That isnt false

Doesnt make ur ass, less ass’y

U feel me

[fathom flax]

Whose got the m gally hot tips

At the moment I have hit the boss but it hasn’t died yet, looking to improve

[sudden brook]

Use cloak to avoid suppressions in p1/p2

More uptime

[winged sun]

[fathom flax]

I have learned if you feint + evasion you can also survive without proccing a cheat

So close to 100% uptime in p1 for now haha

[sudden brook]

Why would u not just use cloak

[fathom flax]

Por Que los dos

I cloak the first when the raid runs off for the first set of adds and defensive the second when death mark is up

[sudden brook]

yeah I mean other than that

Idk, nothing happens on the fight

hit the boss do damage dont die

hope ur guild doesnt do damage so ur caustic can do more

hope ur tanks position well

[fathom flax]

This whole tier

But hope they do enough damage that the adds die in time

Thanks

[wise plume]

5.91b overall btw

[hollow river]

looks a bit low, but you can kinda low roll

its also a pretty tight frontal

[wise plume]

yeah i didn't see it a whole lot in that dung, it was a 14 flood

so shit just scatters for fun in that hell hole

gushing prolly wouldve done more there

[balmy condor]

Gushing hasn’t done shit for me in my keys

[wise plume]

nvm, wont touch it

[balmy condor]

I did like three 12’s and a 15

And that shit was like 0.5%

Every time

[wise plume]

🤢

[balmy condor]

Yeah idk

All the corruptions seem real weird

Like lesser twilight dev being 2%?

That seems fishy high

The others seem fishy low

Idk

All this shits gonna get hotfixed and tuned I bet

[wise plume]

hopefully

[balmy condor]

They already hotfixed echoing void and it’s proccing fine but then the damage is just

????

[wise plume]

nonexistent

about to do a 14 workshop, so maybe twilight dev will do a lil more this time maybe

tighter packs

[winged sun]

I hope they dont nerf that

[wise plume]

just let me stack like 5 twilight devs again

[woeful pawn]

I can't seem to get Lingering Darkness to proc no matter what i do

Is it a buff for myself or a debuff for the target like shiv. I can't get an y thing to track it to see when it procs

So that i can line up the junkmaster trinket

[runic hinge]

It’s a 30 second buff after dm

Every time

Death mark that is

Not deathstalkers mark. Your 2 minute cd deathmark. It’ll be the 30 seconds following

[woeful pawn]

Fuck me...

I've been looking at deathstalkers

[runic hinge]

Happens

[woeful pawn]

Thank you..

[runic hinge]

You aren’t the first with the problem. Good luck with your magnet !

[woeful pawn]

To my understanding shiv buffs it aswell right?

[winged sun]

okokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokok

[wise plume]

huge

diurna ring 😭

never forget i lost a 99 roll for it and never mentally recovered

[loud hawk]

W vault

[hard ferry]

I would really like a source for that pin about greater corruption not being next week but in 3 weeks

the link to that post has nothing on the matter

[wise plume]

saw it on wowhead earlier

[hard ferry]

wowhead even said it was next week

errr

they said that it was the next quest

which unless that quest is locked until 3 weeks from now

it doesnt make sense you know

[wise plume]

well whis is the writer for the wowhead guide, so if he says 3 weeks, i believe it

it says in the article "Hopefully the Greater Corruptions will be available next week."

[hard ferry]

yeah i know

but like i said

unless the quest just doesnt show up for 3 weeks

which would make zero sense

[balmy condor]

Brilliant opinion Ze Ross

Number large -> hope not nerf

[wise plume]

idk blizzard loves teasing and time gating

[golden loom]

So I am blasting mugzee with some twillight dev later today

Sounds great

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/zipperer-why-does-ross-the-largest-friend-not-simply-eat-the-other-five-gif-16340762

[bronze pike]

https://tenor.com/view/zipperer-why-does-ross-the-largest-friend-not-simply-eat-the-other-five-gif-16340762

based status btrw

[slate crown]

🫡

[snow hamlet]

a question, is corruption auto unlock to alts?

If i complete the quest on main

[waxen oyster]

the enchant is warbound

[snow hamlet]

[gray raven]

so what's this about belts? is this some .7 thing?

[balmy condor]

yes, delve belt in 11.1.7

many weeks away

[haughty flicker]

where sims

[waxen oyster]

whispyr gonna have a great time

when that drops too

[snow hamlet]

in my house

[gray raven]

i'm done with delves but i guess they are not done with me

[balmy condor]

sims don't support opening the belt UI in the middle of a raid encounter to change the buff

[haughty flicker]

do you have games on your phone

[wise plume]

my 14 is getting io baited so hard atm

good LORD

[waxen oyster]

wait can you open it in combat

[balmy condor]

yes

that's the tech currently

[waxen oyster]

[balmy condor]

swap buff before cds

cds

swap buff after cds

repeat

[haughty flicker]

surely that gets fixed

[balmy condor]

yes

but people have been asking "WHERE BELT???? WHAT BELT???????" for like

3 fucking weeks now

[waxen oyster]

Me when my RL asks why i couldnt see the weakaura

[balmy condor]

when shit like that still exists

[waxen oyster]

because i was in belt menu

people dont read

i realized people who come to these channels unironically watch wow youtubers

[haughty flicker]

whispyr is a wow youtuber

[balmy condor]

yeah wait a damn minute

I'm one of those

[rotund oak]

maplestory farmer

[waxen oyster]

whispyr doesnt have a super

[balmy condor]

internet not-haver whispyr

[waxen oyster]

flashy clickbait thumbnail

[rotund oak]

Whispyr will

deterministically be a big wowboi

youtube and twitch and all

[balmy condor]

we're getting there

[polar rampart]

can someone read me the information that's in the pins?

[wise plume]

no

[lyric gate]

what did i miss

i was to lazy to play my alts last week

have to 1 shot this 1 box vault

[feral wasp]

Was playing outlaw last week, thought I would take the 2nd dagger that im missing if it shows up and opened vault as sin lmao

[wise plume]

twilght dev 1.3% of 4.91b

[lyric gate]

if you dont have mainhand dagger myth track

take dagger

[polar rampart]

you even get your choice of stats, lol

[clever sparrow]

best helm rune for assa?

[polar rampart]

i've been waiting for this

[wise plume]

twilight dev/void ritual

[lyric gate]

okay what do we even get here

from vault

at this point

[waxen oyster]

Whatever you dont have?

[wise plume]

sockets lol

[lyric gate]

prayge

need top ring or hands

have only 1 more socket spot

[feral wasp]

last week i took this , please robot tell me i can use it

on sin

[wise plume]

good choice

yo this new heavenly transmog set in the shop looks kinda dope

[lyric gate]

ah in t6his shop

bro baited me to the traderpost

icant

[wise plume]

LMAO

nah the credit card swiping shop

[waxen oyster]

heavenly is mid

[lyric gate]

not my type

but can be worse

[wise plume]

true could be a recolor of the fox onesie in the trading post

[lyric gate]

i saw the fox

on a ferral

i was complimenting him for a good transmogg

now i see its full set from here

lame

[wanton scaffold]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BAYCFhfKNn69DwxP?fight=29&type=damage-done&source=302 does anyone have some advice to help increase my damage. I feel like I'm plateauing a bit and am stuck around this dps

[lyric gate]

4 min 30 fight

cant get better

not that bad looking good

[wanton scaffold]

Its as good as it gets and I'm still behind what some others are getting

[lyric gate]

y there goes more

[ripe carbon]

what rune did u guys pick?

i read pin, should i go gushing still or pick other like said

[lyric gate]

still no pot ?

[wise plume]

twilight dev

[hoary gust]

I don’t really do much pve with my rogue but keeping more uptime on your garrote might help improve it just a little

[fallow canopy]

its lesser, the different between wont really matter

[balmy condor]

gushing is well represented in logs, twilight seems good in m+, void ritual is all over the place, echoing void is maybe still bugged

[ripe carbon]

how hard is it to get another?

[wise plume]

let me test echo rn in this 12

[lyric gate]

you need to wait 3 weeks

to get another

and need sub to the game and warcraft 3 also

[balmy condor]

one run gets you like 2k mementos and you need 500 to get one

[fallow canopy]

its just 500 thingies

[ripe carbon]

ah ok thx

[golden loom]

Are they 1 time consumes like enchants?

[waxen oyster]

yes

[wise plume]

y

[waxen oyster]

void is fun if you get a proc right before you press cds

[buoyant herald]

echo is doing it tough, 450m dummy test and we get

and that's as outlaw with big vers

[lethal arrow]

it do be bugged

[river ginkgo]

pugs cant do any skips on floodgate oml

we had 12 minutes left for bubbles skip + jumpstarter skip on a +15 and failed both, didnt time

[lyric gate]

how im runing oiut of sanity

instant

icant

[waxen oyster]

standing in shit

[lyric gate]

no its just running down

[waxen oyster]

also the drain with no talents

[lyric gate]

i was doing extra quarter

[waxen oyster]

in tree

[lyric gate]

ah lol

[balmy condor]

you get stacking reduction every week from the tree

but yeh

right now more than 1 mask is rough

[waxen oyster]

You probably need to ration the 100 sanity pots

[nimble tartan]

i did a 4 mask it was not too bad u have like 7 minutes to start

[waxen oyster]

do we get the temporary immunity super haste roid proc

[balmy condor]

yah potions help a ton

[waxen oyster]

like in bfa

[lyric gate]

so you just kill the boss

until you got shit in talents

[balmy condor]

well no, you should be doing the wings

[waxen oyster]

you can do all 4 quarters

[balmy condor]

giga mask runs are just struggle

[waxen oyster]

with minimal masks

[balmy condor]

were you not paying attention when I was doing them

[waxen oyster]

just doing long night mask can be rough

[nimble tartan]

is that the one that reduces ur sanity by 50%?

[lyric gate]

i want the enchant

[waxen oyster]

Yeah

[lyric gate]

rest i couldnt care less

[nimble tartan]

yeah just dont pick that one

[waxen oyster]

the rest are kinda whatever

[nimble tartan]

u can do 4 mask without it and u have lotss of time

[waxen oyster]

its funny because it is the very first mask

they give

[nimble tartan]

yeah lol

visions are kinda cool most in my guild like it

new to me

[waxen oyster]

Most people who played bfa

dislike it

XD

[haughty flicker]

most people are dumb

visions are cool

[balmy condor]

visions themselves are cool

blizzard fomo timegating everything

is fucking stupid

[haughty flicker]

yeah im really glad i waited 4 weeks for content that is timegated another 3 weeks

[nimble tartan]

true iw ouldve plahyed a lot more today and thjis week

but i shall just raidlog

[haughty flicker]

at least they removed the restriction on buying cosmetics

[nimble tartan]

i wouldve liked to prog the vision tree forsure

[waxen oyster]

well the cosmetics are softlocked?

[grim jay]

Everything to keep the subs running

[waxen oyster]

by you can more easily do mask runs

with more talents

[haughty flicker]

better than before when you literally just couldnt buy them yet

[waxen oyster]

which means higher memento gain

Though 8 masking gives you 11 gilded

first of the week

[autumn frost]

I couldn't even figure out how to mask lol

[buoyant herald]

imagine finding 8-masking easier content than a +7

nice i guess but

kinda meaningless

[waxen oyster]

The hardest part about low keys

is the people

that play down there

[buoyant herald]

thats true

[lyric gate]

what you mean

why have to insult me

[nimble tartan]

elitists..

[waxen oyster]

I’d say delves are easier

+the benefit of being able to afk whenever

is a big part of it

[nimble tartan]

yess id love apause

but i guess its supposed to feel like a speedrun

[lyric gate]

i cant even beat the boss

what speedrun

[haughty flicker]

[lyric gate]

how do i get black blood

[waxen oyster]

well i meant delves as opposed to m+

technically visions you can log out if its a short pause

and come back there

[subtle tundra]

miau

[haughty flicker]

[buoyant herald]

oh 100%

[waxen oyster]

i did t11s as tank at 619

[buoyant herald]

8 mask runs is probably the hardest way to get gildeds

[waxen oyster]

they still white swing my rogue for like

1/3 hp

[buoyant herald]

thats cheating though

[waxen oyster]

yeah tanks are kind of unfair

+you can run dps bran

[wise plume]

lol echo is still bugged

5.33B overall 😭

shit is so cooked

[gloomy heart]

whats a good song to just completely parse with

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/aaaa-hola-como-andy-martino-dance-gif-18551524

[lyric gate]

bee gees staying alive

[wise plume]

anything slayer probs

[clever sparrow]

can we get greater ennchant yet?

[wise plume]

no

[balmy condor]

3 weeks

[gloomy heart]

@balmy condor nothing super fried... please.

[balmy condor]

I'm tellin you man, mexican mario bangs

[gloomy heart]

omfg

let me check it out

[balmy condor]

do not

it's meme

[gloomy heart]

LMAO

i need ANYTHING Rn

[balmy condor]

https://open.spotify.com/track/710P4iq0LH2ZYULFJn61sj?si=e0aa7cb084ce4c61

[gloomy heart]

this will do

wtf is this

bro

[wise plume]

lol

[balmy condor]

you asked for something

don't be mad

I right clicked current playing

[proven belfry]

https://open.spotify.com/intl-de/track/7koqYCHESDGTORau9emDO1?si=62fc1d1b10b4420a

chilling

[buoyant herald]

TD is doing about 4x as much, so i guess its that or ritual

[wise plume]

yeah, just wanted to test if it was still bugged or not

[west jolt]

Is there a resource on bleed vs hybrid builds, and which builds prefer which stats?

[balmy condor]

!builds

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[balmy condor]

stat preference isn't a thing

it's always the same

[west jolt]

Mm ok, thought I saw some people talking about haste mastery for bleed builds

ty!

[balmy condor]

haste is better

that doesn't mean you go haste/mast

it's like minor at best, you would stay with mast>crit>haste like normal

[west jolt]

Sweet, thanks for the info whispero bankai san

[balmy condor]

np

[wise plume]

https://open.spotify.com/track/3MA7N8ALJzg4I696jxdk8d?si=fc7d11d4e7a24efc parse to this

[balmy condor]

camellia goated pull

holy

[wise plume]

camellia go hard

[west jolt]

switching from outlaw because i cant stand KS, already spent my dinar on outlaw weap

[wise plume]

boutta break out the beatsaber

[next arch]

myth cards vs myth signet

[wise plume]

i think cards

think

[warm lantern]

start by rupuring the adds for free engy

[polar rampart]

i think cards is a lil bit ahead, but its close enough to not be a huge deal

[main plover]

it simmed within the margin of error for me

[weak cypress]

Guys how we get greater enchants

[polar rampart]

wait

[main plover]

in 3 weeks

[runic hinge]

they are the same

[weak cypress]

So dont need to do espial things like 5mask or so?

[main plover]

nope

[clever sparrow]

should i trust sim?

[runic hinge]

maybe

[red schooner]

Equal for sin, only consideration is if one would be better for other specs or not

[silent compass]

Not a good week for me...

How worth is strapped keg instead of crafted

[red schooner]

Depends on what the robot says

[wise plume]

every single one of these raid chests from weekly has given me boots, im so sick of this shit

[lusty kraken]

are the echoing void issues included in the sims?

[wise plume]

no clue, dont use it tho

the pinned sims?

[lusty kraken]

I want to know if the sims are accurate or not

it tells me echoing void is the best

[balmy condor]

they are not

[lusty kraken]

alright, so void ritual it is then

[subtle tundra]

miau

[wise plume]

miao

[silent compass]

Strapped rescue keg is higher dps!!

[static glacier]

You maghar?

[silent compass]

Yipeee

[silent compass]

Velf

[static glacier]

It’s kinda awkward for maghar if your 2nd highest stat is haste, but other than that it’s a good neck

I tried for a while to get it to aim higher than crafted, killed gally and I redrafted everything for outlaw anyway

[molten galleon]

Read Pin but wtf are we pikcing now ? 😄

[balmy condor]

if you read the pin it says, does it not?

did you really read it

[lusty kraken]

Reading comprehension

[balmy condor]

it literally lists them

[molten galleon]

Echoing Void fixed positiv or negativ?. And the rest is m+ ?

[lusty kraken]

Void ritual is probably the safest bet for assa

Twilight dev can ninja pull stuff

And gushing was simming much lower than others for me

It’s not like it’s difficult to replace the corruption anyway

[wise plume]

its like a buncha hellen kellers in here sometimes

[red schooner]

The important thing is that the system was thoroughly tested and bug fixed on the PTR

[slow helm]

Recently seen people not play garrotte, im much too big of a dipshit to figure out why it's better on my own, what's the idea behind it?

[golden loom]

!cleave

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[rain coral]

what does +1 luck from the undermine ring brings in effect?

[still stirrup]

I've been getting belts nearly every week. Today topped it with 3 belts

[balmy condor]

nothing

[rain coral]

oke

[slow helm]

Got it, will insult those playing non bleed in my weekly 10s

[indigo mulch]

As you should.

[slow helm]

Or I will do as I normally do, and not Invite rogue

[rain coral]

will the horrific buffs only play a role in the event or outside too?

[runic hinge]

If you’re playing a Nelf it makes you always flip

When you jump

So it’s bis basically

[red schooner]

It needs you to play nelf, so it's only bis when making suboptimal choices

[runic hinge]

I think it works for all races that flip

I’m a smeld enjoyer tho

[red schooner]

It needs you to not play troll

And as such

It can go in the fucking bin

[subtle tundra]

you can use the toy to race change

[runic hinge]

I do

To vulpera

[golden loom]

Ew

[red schooner]

wtf

[subtle tundra]

its wednesday morning

go do your thing

[golden loom]

Im at the office...

[subtle tundra]

Wrong answer

[golden loom]

Cant go delving here sadly

But I got a new solo activity now (visions)

[runic hinge]

5 mask run this week

[old lily]

we doing bleed in visions?

[subtle tundra]

[agile wedge]

it slaps

😄

[red schooner]

I still don't know how visions works so imma just go in blind, fuck it

It's fine probs

[wise plume]

its fun

[agile wedge]

its really fast with my gear so yeah i guess

[runic hinge]

Yeah everything dies insta lol

[red schooner]

Yeah I've got a decent ilvl so I'm hoping I can just waltz through it

[molten galleon]

pick suden dimise

[runic hinge]

Yeah I’m like 677 and it’s ez

[red schooner]

You say that like I ever unpick sudden demise

[rain coral]

nelf do flips by default

why would you need that ring for that

[molten galleon]

100% chance

[rain coral]

oke but does that works for all races ?

[red schooner]

only if the race does flips

[rain coral]

ah oke

[fluid dust]

is gushing the play right now or is echoing void good

[rain coral]

is shadowmelt neglectable in M+ as an extra vanish?

[lavish geyser]

what is rupture sniping?

[red schooner]

It's very inconsistent

[old lily]

i can only get like 4/5 before running out of sanity

[lavish geyser]

is it just putting rupture on a small target in st, for the buff?

[red schooner]

You need energy in boss fight, there's a mob next to boss, you throw a rupture onto mob before it dies for energy back

Sniped

[molten galleon]

for energy

[lavish geyser]

lol isnt that always done? didnt know it was called sniping hehe

but now it has become even better?

[rain coral]

anyone got his rune already ?

[molten galleon]

rn

[iron carbon]

Whispyr fixed raidbot

[red schooner]

It's bugged or something so it's giving more energy back? I forget the exact reasoning why it's better than originally thought.

It used to be thought of as a waste as it's just wasted combo points you could have spent cycling your deathstalkers on the main target

Which, given we're envenom the spec, is kinda good

[iron carbon]

#assassination message

Answer is here

[lavish geyser]

what about primary stat increase?

[red schooner]

ye sure invalidate my answer I see how it is

[lavish geyser]

how was it not worth?

[golden loom]

You dont run that in raid?

[red schooner]

We don't run that talent in raid normally?

[lavish geyser]

oh i wasnt talking raidXD

I play outlaw raid

[red schooner]

Yeah sniping is a raid thing

[iron carbon]

Kekw

[lavish geyser]

in workshop sometimes a little dude comes in on the first boss and doesnt really do anything

you can snipe that guy

[iron carbon]

Not sniping

[lavish geyser]

how is that not sniping?

[iron carbon]

He doesn't die

[lavish geyser]

it has to be a kill?

so what about the webbed ppl on the second boss of dawnbreaker

[iron carbon]

That's why sniping stqbd for

[lavish geyser]

( -_•)▄︻デ══━一

[balmy condor]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[balmy condor]

it's in wowhead

[iron carbon]

Put a rupture on target that gonna die to fill energy

[balmy condor]

open the guide

and read

[molten galleon]

You gain enegry when Rupturce ticks thats normal bleed spreading. Sniping is Rupturing low hp targets to get a big chunk of enegry back by a target dying with bleeds on him

[midnight mist]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[iron carbon]

But you could do it in M+, yes

[west jolt]

this might be a rarted question but - are there any tools that a rogue has to dispell this weeks affix? like how hunters can feign death

[iron carbon]

What are affixes this week?

[balmy condor]

what affix

[west jolt]

its the healing absorb

[royal python]

What corruption to choose?

[iron carbon]

Pins

[iron carbon]

CoS, vial

tut I don't get the feint death thing

[west jolt]

Oh vial will instantly dispell it like feign death? nice i didnt know that

[red schooner]

It ticks away some of the healing, doesn't insta dispel

[iron carbon]

No, it helps yourself

[red schooner]

But, better than nothing

[west jolt]

is that our best bet?

kk

[red schooner]

Other than cloak which feels terrible to burn on an affix, ye

[balmy condor]

it's a healer affix

[west jolt]

well, most classes have a self-dispell of some sort, even hunters

only ones I can think of that dont are rogue and warrior

[iron carbon]

Dwarf racial

[balmy condor]

doing a +12 instead so you don't have to deal with the cringe affixes

probably easiest solution

[old lily]

and more gilded

[iron carbon]

But since when feign death dispell the hunter?

[pastel roost]

Since TWW where they gained a talent that dispel bleedling when they do FD and turtle

[iron carbon]

That's fucking broken

30 sec bleed dispel

[terse stone]

Any tip which ability to makro "Junkmaestro's Mega Magnet" to as an Assassination rogue?

[red schooner]

Don't macro it, use it during lingering darkness

[pastel roost]

I mean it's as much broken as a 15s -40 % aoe cd 😄

[old lily]

correct me if i'm wrong but isn't it just goated to pick echoing void since it's best ST and somewhat best on aoe too?

[terse stone]

Yeah, tought so .. but thought i could have an easy life 😄

[red schooner]

If only what classed as an aoe was consistent

[west jolt]

yeah but blizz fucked up i think

[red schooner]

Benks wing flap? Not aoe. Gigazap? Aoe

[west jolt]

in the pins it says its supposed to be the best for all situations but theres a bug with it

[old lily]

or is gushing wound considered a bleed? because in that case it would be nuts

[balmy condor]

pins, everythings bugged

[golden loom]

Does not interact with rogue stuff

[balmy condor]

also no, non-rogue abilities do not interact with rogue abilities

[old lily]

ah okay i guess that makes sense, guess i'll just take the safe boring option of more 2nd stats :/

[wise plume]

just spent the last 45 minutes in a 10 theater helping new ppl

[iron carbon]

But we are not ranged

And it's painful to use in st

[west jolt]

new people in a 10? how did they get to be in that situation?

[wise plume]

idk, but 24 deaths on final boss

[west jolt]

i mean 10 is easy, just how did they get into the group

[unkempt garnet]

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[balmy condor]

the pins

[wise plume]

pins

[unkempt garnet]

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[balmy condor]

also you can farm like a billion of them

in 10 min

so just swap them around and play whatever you want

[subtle tundra]

meow

[unkempt garnet]

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[wise plume]

void ritual had a 33% uptime in that 44:20 theater, so i guess not bad

[buoyant herald]

not echoing void, it's broken

[balmy condor]

is bugged

[unkempt garnet]

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[buoyant herald]

void ritual is about 600 all stats on average

[unkempt garnet]

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[buoyant herald]

pretty nice but boring

[subtle tundra]

all of them are boring

woah great proc!!! 300k dmg

[buoyant herald]

TD does good damage and at least has a noticeable effect

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[subtle tundra]

is there even a visual for gushing wound?

[wise plume]

ive had td troll pull a few times

[buoyant herald]

yeah thought it might still do that

[unkempt garnet]

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[buoyant herald]

personally im just going for void ritual

[wise plume]

gonna stick with ritual just for the stats

[buoyant herald]

yeah

[subtle tundra]

personally, my game time runs out in a week

[balmy condor]

remember when tww was supposed to be a good expansion

[unkempt garnet]

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[buoyant herald]

im having fun

[unkempt garnet]

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[subtle tundra]

dont listen to the glazers

[distant plinth]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[subtle tundra]

tww sucks

[balmy condor]

I mean if I'm being honest, I don't make the game

[iron carbon]

You don't like it?

[balmy condor]

and tww is worse than dragonflight

and dragonflight was barely better than shadowlands

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[balmy condor]

you're entitled to your wrong opinions

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[subtle tundra]

well the reason im not playing anymore isnt the quality of the game
ive only played for raid/high m+

[west jolt]

Legion was the last great expansion so far, bfa was alright

[subtle tundra]

which are great basically all the time

[buoyant herald]

no-more-gamer varas

[balmy condor]

m+ is better than it's been lately, raid was kinda fine but my guild is dogshit

[wise plume]

i dont like this raid at all tbh

[subtle tundra]

i just dont want to miss real life things for raid anymore, and m+ requires too much time investment
so i quit ❤️

[buoyant herald]

dogshit guild will ruin things for you, can attest

[wise plume]

honorable decision

[balmy condor]

problem is that I love the people

but the prep and the bottom half of the roster

is actually so braindead

[red schooner]

Just join my guild it'll make your guild look competent

[nimble tartan]

its so valid i suggest if u do still want to play to go down to a 2 day guild or even lower

been loving doing 2 days on tue thurs

[red schooner]

The choice of a Ret pally on coin duty on bandit still baffles me

[buoyant herald]

i maintain that the biggest cause of guilds disbanding is large gaps in ability

[red schooner]

We can't trust the ranged

[distant plinth]

@subtle tundra i heard u talking about quitting for atleast 1 year now brother xD

[balmy condor]

okay but how many pulls for bandit

[red schooner]

Like 70 so far

[nimble tartan]

ret pally coins is so crazy thats very interesting

[balmy condor]

lemme know when you get to 300

[nimble tartan]

u dont have a hunter?