assassination

[dense cove]

Anyone know which plater profile zeross uses? Is that whispyrs?

[normal mist]

@winged sun ^ this one is for you

[winged sun]

ceverion's plater

oh forgot to revert my name back

[humble verge]

5/8 reclear

actually sadge

not even 6/8

[dense cove]

Thanks! That profile looks clean

[nova python]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[fervent fractal]

Does the whispyr edit wa have something to track darkest night?

I don't see the icon at first glance

nvm it does

[iron carbon]

I guess farming s done for me

Only reason I don't do damage is skill

[cinder steppe]

is the little soaks boms on mugzee this? https://i.imgur.com/zY4lNQc.png

like every hit is a soak done?

[brazen sluice]

thats hc 💀

[iron carbon]

Yes, stuff that you can farm

[bleak dune]

Can anyone explain why raidbots want me to go haste / vers?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oqd1T9foDNjP2wBuPCr5Um

doesnt make any sense tbh

[iron carbon]

Can't farm MM track from M+

Unless vault

[cinder steppe]

does anyone knows?

[humble verge]

well, you can still get avoidance pieces you can cata

[vagrant brook]

there is literally no difference between haste vers, haste mastery, crit vers, or mastery crit in your sim

[astral current]

now sim vault drops and get new goal in life

[humble verge]

yes it is

they have bombs in their name

3:

[cinder steppe]

yeah i meant if it counted correctly, like there are some things that logs dont count correctly like the ovinax black areas

thanksss

[bleak dune]

hm? do i read it wrong?

[vagrant brook]

if you scroll down there are about 20 combinations of gems that give the exact same dps

within the margin of error of the simulation

which are highlighted purple

[iron carbon]

Erf, yes why not

Won't up my shit dps

[river ginkgo]

Is it worth it to garotte and rupture more after ambushing from stealth at the start of a pull? I timed a 17 but did not do a good key % and I'm wondering if getting tempest and caustic out faster would help get my dam up on big pulls

[brazen sluice]

why are ppl asking for parasol for rookery 17?

[iron carbon]

Why not?

[brazen sluice]

idk if there is a skip with parasol or what

[iron carbon]

There's

u skip One big boy down

[humble verge]

wdym, it will? you'll be alive for longer :D

[river ginkgo]

Oh my, my same sim is 3.3 million (no buffs). Swapped from sub 😦

[waxen oyster]

havent farmed a key for loot since week 3

[normal mist]

because you have too much mastery/crit

[iron carbon]

Only HC slot left already got avoidance

[normal mist]

so haste/vers become more desirable

[humble verge]

oh you ran 671

[iron carbon]

Can't farm MM track in m+

[waxen oyster]

Sometimes I wonder

do people actually bother to read “assa stats are variable”

and then go “ok crit/mast every slot”

[humble verge]

just 8 weeklies

raid

log off

[iron carbon]

Yep

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-think-so-no-saturday-night-live-not-really-nope-not-true-gif-21183316

[iron carbon]

But I have no excuss left for bad dps

[waxen oyster]

I mean why do people insist

on only crit mast

its weird

[normal mist]

Some classes probably are like that, they don't want X stat

[waxen oyster]

idk about that one chief

its usually one stat is just slightly worse

[buoyant herald]

Yeah I mean outlaw basically never wants mastery, or haste above a certain point

[normal mist]

Ofc every stat will 99% of the times (maybe 100%) a dps increase

[buoyant herald]

But ultimately it’s a function of wowhead etc requiring the guidewriters to fill in a “best stats” section without room for further context or explanation

And people just read that and go full balls into whatever it says

[waxen oyster]

Yeah but thats because outlaw is a terribly designed spec

[buoyant herald]

You need to come to the class discord and hit a ! Command for the full info

[waxen oyster]

i will say though enh feels weird if you dont have enough haste to make lavalash have no cd during a hothand proc

[waxen oyster]

/simc in game

topgear

[buoyant herald]

That’s another level of knowledge up again

[leaden bloom]

Should we be clearing the witness with fok in ST? The sim shows yes but I thought I read in a guide not to.

[normal mist]

!fok

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[buoyant herald]

Like obviously it’s available but if you think even 20% of the player base are regularly simming…whoooo boy

[normal mist]

^

[buoyant herald]

Probably not even 10%

[waxen oyster]

People choose to willfully ignore sources

[red schooner]

TBF I was lazy and just slammed crit mastery without simming

[waxen oyster]

For some reason

[buoyant herald]

Yeah they do but we know this

[red schooner]

It's fine probably

[buoyant herald]

So you try and dumb things down enough to make them accessible and digestible

[waxen oyster]

I mean i have crit mast mostly because my non crafted slots arent

crit haste neck

realistically jewelry is likely the only slots it isnt within error

[red schooner]

I only have 2 crafted slots anyhow so, it's probably like .1% either way

[waxen oyster]

must be nice

[red schooner]

Ye it's alright

Been lucky with vault and if I craft something then the vault will for sure only give me that slot to punish me for my hubris

[waxen oyster]

me sitting here with 5

migut be 6 if i make a ring on reset

[waxen oyster]

made a belt 2 weeks ago

last week belt in vault

[red schooner]

Ye just don't craft and the vault can't fuck you as hard

[waxen oyster]

Technically you’re only set back the spark

[dense spruce]

!Tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[red schooner]

I'm pretty much done with gearing this season thankfully, it's almost over

I'm almost free

[waxen oyster]

i buy signet

or cope its in my vault

[red schooner]

Ye a vault signet would be nice

[waxen oyster]

i think myth ring will free me from circe jail

[red schooner]

But if not I'll just buy a myth priory and then wait for my guild to trip and fall over past the gally finish line

[winged sun]

@balmy condor OMGGG WHY IS ZEROSS RUNNING 15% VERS WHATS GOING ONNNN NEW DPS GAIN??? WHAT HAPPENED CAN YOU EXPLAIN PLZ ALSO WHY 2% HASTE??? 35% CRIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[golden loom]

Why 35% crit?

[balmy condor]

[golden loom]

Just get lucky and crit lol

[red schooner]

real

[waxen oyster]

just run 2% crit

and crit natty

[red schooner]

don't stack mastery just obtain mastery outside of the game

[winged sun]

after heavy research and m+ completed, 1% crit is all you need, as it still counts as 50% chance to crit no matter ur crit rating

as a proud owner of being in murlok io i will confirm that every information in that website is completely accurate

[waxen oyster]

also should i be garroting again near the end of the 12s window on ST

in bleed

to refresh empowered garrote

[red schooner]

with enough resi key runs, any crit rating can lead to 100% crit chance

[golden loom]

I do it cause I like the feeling of it

And I do not care if its bad or not

[waxen oyster]

like its still an empowered garrote within the 12s window right

[red schooner]

Same. Also it's probably a slight increase I think

[golden loom]

Yeah

[waxen oyster]

and you refresh the duration

[red schooner]

This is me with not staying above 150 energy

[waxen oyster]

i tried a cinderbrew today

the tank died twice on the pulling trash in benk hallway

back to door

and ragequit

Also I came to a disturbing realization today that spamming t11 sidestreet sluce delve is as fast crests as keys.

5 minutes for 15 runed=15 minutes for 15 gilded.

[iron carbon]

Vault kinda sad too

[empty tide]

!FUU

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[humble verge]

[waxen oyster]

i havent run a vault droptimizer in over a month

no point simming something not controllable

[humble verge]

reminds me i should try that

[iron carbon]

That's just to have an idea of what you could take in the vault

The funny thing is that the only ring upgrade ocer Circe is the Gallywix in MM

[waxen oyster]

myth ring might be upgrade

[iron carbon]

Robot said no

[waxen oyster]

yeah depends on your gear

[iron carbon]

Ikr

[waxen oyster]

681 crit mast is 9k above circe

for me

[iron carbon]

But in the current state of my gear, in DS as Bleeds build, only MM Gally and MM chest are upgrade 🙂

[waxen oyster]

i need mythic legs

[iron carbon]

You'll get your legs wednesday, I'll get my chest, I trust

[waxen oyster]

nah i need signet more

dont want to burn dinar

[worthy rose]

finally stopped dragging my feet and got to 3k io score

bleed build op

[lyric gate]

holy i still work on my catalyst charge

[worthy rose]

@hollow river thanks to notrickz and telling me how to perfect my bleed build page

[lyric gate]

tell me also how

[worthy rose]

my build page?

its the default bleed build atm i think

i just hadnt updated it since season began

its this page but you swap the poison talent right under deathmark to serrated bone spikes

and then youre set

@lyric gate

basically this works just about everywhere except theatre of pain

[waxen oyster]

playing bleed without sbs sounds scuffed

[worthy rose]

where u prob want to go supercharger FI build or something

[lyric gate]

no bonespkes

icant

[iron carbon]

Why would you do that?

[worthy rose]

yeah you change to sbs

[lyric gate]

also no ambush combo ?

teach m,e more

[worthy rose]

dont think i need it

i have two pages

the other page has the ambush thing

i go 50/50 between the two

but imean

3k should be easy either way

doable with any workable talent page

and a half decent team

[waxen oyster]

i mean if you drop sbs drop doomblade

[worthy rose]

i had my hunter go mad single target deeps build to make up for my lac kof single target on bleed

[lyric gate]

can you help me in my 5 workshop pls

[worthy rose]

mechagon 5?

im not at home atm if you want to wait 8 hours i can

rip work amirite

[waxen oyster]

actually new tech

drop doomblade sbs

[iron carbon]

I don't get if i get trolled or not

[waxen oyster]

for 2/2 poison bomb

[worthy rose]

is it hilarious

im 3k score

and i dont know what half my talent page does

i just wait for people like whispyr to explain to me how everything works

[waxen oyster]

i saw a 3k ret

do only 2m overall

in dfc

[worthy rose]

ret is a diff story tho

also probably a boosted animal

[lyric gate]

maybe he did priory damage

[iron carbon]

OKay, I can't

[waxen oyster]

ret

priority damage

[worthy rose]

ret has no excuse to fail

dont they literally have like 3-4 buttons

actual braindead gaming

[iron carbon]

Liek assa?

[short pine]

so do we lowkey

[worthy rose]

its like what ruptureless hfb build in wotlk for assassination used to be

[hollow river]

not quite but it is braindead yes

[worthy rose]

'morning trickz

finally got to 3k but it dont feel like an achievement

and mount looks like shit

[waxen oyster]

Thats how i feel playing sin in raid

[hollow river]

noice

[waxen oyster]

esp since vv is default build

[worthy rose]

were u there for wotlk

when ruptureless hfb was a thing

[waxen oyster]

no

[worthy rose]

all yo uneeded to do was spam mutilate and envenom two buttons and refresh snd

actually braindead gaming

2.5-3k dps easy

[waxen oyster]

thats not much different

[worthy rose]

you just needed a feral or warrior to appyl bleeds for you LOL

[iron carbon]

Wotlk gameplay

[waxen oyster]

from how vv plays rn

[worthy rose]

tell me more about thi svv build

i want braindead gameplay

[waxen oyster]

its just in raid

[worthy rose]

so i can jerk it with my other hand i mean eat my pasta while gaming

[waxen oyster]

you dont even consume ctw

on st

[worthy rose]

hmm

oh

raid

yeah i think raid gameplay is quite smooth as sin

i like to change it up and play outlaw in raid so i can do some tomfoolery with killing spree

keep my guildmates in suspense u know

[iron carbon]

In pure ST, you don't play KS

[worthy rose]

gally soak will i move across the map and troll the team? will i do the mechanic properly?

tune in next time to find out on dragon ball z

[worthy rose]

yeah but what if you want to do some mild griefing

[iron carbon]

I don't

RL would just fuck me

[waxen oyster]

if rogue did more offrip damage

you could tricks other melee

on pull

and have boss whack them

[iron carbon]

You can shroud and remove it mid pull timer

[waxen oyster]

This doesnt work on sprocket

since he doesnt queue up a melee swing first

also allegedly

shroud bugs out bm hunter pets

idk why

[iron carbon]

I saw that

Kinda weird

[worthy rose]

in ulduar back when it was relevant

the bomb moat around mimiron

you could misdirect or tricks them into oneshotting raidmates

i did so much griefing in my prime

[waxen oyster]

buddy i was just a casual playing paladin

back then

[balmy condor]

dawg what are you cooking here

[waxen oyster]

if you wanted to troll you bopped a warrior on his cooldowns

[worthy rose]

i copypasta'd chainbleeds talent pages

he still infact uses that exact page without the sbs change

[balmy condor]

cooked

[waxen oyster]

i dont think anyone knows

who that is

[worthy rose]

chainbleed from area 52

like #3-#6 rogue in the world

[balmy condor]

I only know the name because these fucking archon dogs

keep copy pasting some deranged shit

[worthy rose]

LOL

its why i come to ask based whispy for his wisdom

but i mean

i aint aiming to be the best just above average

ez 3k

[waxen oyster]

the 12-14 range is something else

why am i above #2 by at least 1mil

[balmy condor]

[waxen oyster]

on overall

[worthy rose]

@balmy condor

this is my second bleed page

thoughts an dopinions?

[worthy rose]

it truly is the wild west

[balmy condor]

that's fine I guess but it's still real strange

[worthy rose]

especially after the ilvl boost

[topaz crow]

ok i have searched and checked pins. What is up with the shiv+tea macro? like i cant get it to work consistently

[worthy rose]

what makes it strange?

[balmy condor]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[worthy rose]

do you have an ideal bleed build i can copypasta

i dont know why but the deathmark and trinket macro doesnt always trigger the trinket

its real annoying

[balmy condor]

having 1 lethality just isn't going to make a difference and makes vanish way more rigid, running ttb doesn't make sense after the nerf

[balmy condor]

I wonder

[worthy rose]

pls let me copypasta papi

[haughty flicker]

if only there were a website

that had something like that

[worthy rose]

wowhead? never heard of it

[tight sparrow]

If its only this week in m+ , then its the affix with the CDs. It dosent speed up trinkets but your Deathmark

[worthy rose]

is that what you say after your gf gives you the time of ur life

[topaz crow]

Does anyone else have the issue where you log in. Try to use shiv macro, doesnt work. You log out, use shiv macro it works?

[worthy rose]

oh shit that makes sense

[humble verge]

no blindside huh

[balmy condor]

not that I've heard of, the only bug that people encounter is if they have the old consumable thistle tea in their bank

it'll try and use that for some reason

[topaz crow]

well that would make sense cuz i gurantee you i have thistle tea in my bank somewhere 🤣 i was going INSANE. It wouldnt work, id log out and in and then it would randomly start working

[worthy rose]

i remember when thistle tea was a consumable

and id never use it

mad dps loss

"using consumables is expensive"

aint nobody got money for that

at what point do u guys start using flasks and tempered potions?

[humble verge]

i only use pots in raid

flasks i just use what i have in bags for m+

[worthy rose]

i only use pots in like 14's now

flasks and pots

and ironclaw whetstone

shits too expensiv eto be wasting on a 13 or below

[humble verge]

tho

i only use flasks and whetstone when iknow ill be doing more than like 1 key

[haughty flicker]

i just use r2 consumables

all insanely cheap

doesnt matter

[humble verge]

yea

i dont use r2 for pot

r3 for flask isent that expensive tho

[worthy rose]

i use the silver consumables

and its still too expenisve

[humble verge]

thats r2

[worthy rose]

how are people buying the gold ones i dont know

yall ballin or something

[lethal arrow]

i dont even put poisons on for keys

[viscid spear]

[spare kayak]

I don't equip gear on lower than 14s,cause i don't want to pay repair bills

[stone gust]

What YouTuber is best to watch pov vids of mythic plus?

[balmy condor]

shindig's got some good stuff

[topaz crow]

currently am watching 1 of his vids now actually

[pure moth]

I timed a key and ran out of poison sometime within it.. noticed it on last boss when my spatter wasn't going off

[lyric gate]

pog i timed my work 6

[royal lantern]

tfw you wipe at 0,3% on mugzee

and then notice

your warrior swaped to fury 8pulls ago

cus they dont wanna play arms

🙂

[haughty flicker]

incredibly based

[errant night]

Hey, i'll first time assa tomorrow on One armed bandit mythic cause sub is so far behind, is there any specifics to know ? like do you bleed all the henchmen when they spawn ?

[haughty flicker]

twice the weapons means twice the damage

[lethal arrow]

Yeah it's not bad to rupture the adds your team is moving to

Nice for energy economy

I wouldnt rupture the bombs tho

[balmy condor]

rupture assistants if you need energy, hold colds on pull for 5-6 extra seconds

[lethal arrow]

Vanish if you get fixated

lets you free cleave without having to worry about blowing up

[errant night]

ok nice to know. so you meant to hold cds for 5-6 sec ? for add spawn i'd guess ?

[royal lantern]

thats insane wtf

why would you do that

you just risk putting it on somebody that is in melee range

[balmy condor]

it lines up cds better with adds yes

[lethal arrow]

They spawn far away lol

What strat are you guys doing

[balmy condor]

it's not that bad

[lyric gate]

can you write a macro for mutilate that prevents using tea ?

like on shiv ?

[balmy condor]

what

like prevents going under 30?

[lyric gate]

y

[balmy condor]

no

[royal lantern]

what has that to do with strat, just cleave from the boss and then walk the 4 seconds away from it

[balmy condor]

lmao

[lyric gate]

feelsbad

[balmy condor]

no reason to do that either

[lethal arrow]

Yeah its totally ethical lol, you save yourself the risk of being someone who blows the raid up

[errant night]

About tea, you use two on mark+bane and one on solo bane ?

[silk sundial]

On OAB I used a wa that told me if I was fixated before actually getting fixated. That way you don't troll your other melee

[balmy condor]

you macro to shiv and forget it exists

[lethal arrow]

I was even encouraged to do it from my shotcallers

[errant night]

Welp okay then i'll do that xD

[balmy condor]

!shiv

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket

[lyric gate]

dunno i use my tea at 12

not at 14

sec of bane

[balmy condor]

okay?

for what purpose

[errant night]

Damn you guys are efficient, i got 5 tips in like 2 minutes

[lyric gate]

6+6 sec

= 12

[balmy condor]

okay but its 0 dps

xd

you're just inventing min-maxes that don't exist

[lyric gate]

i like beeing pro active

[balmy condor]

pro active for what

[lyric gate]

like playing the gaming

with active using my physical power

on pressing keys

[royal lantern]

...what?

[balmy condor]

whatever man do what you want

[lyric gate]

you losing 2 sec of tea mastery

on a higher ramped bane

[balmy condor]

you literally aren't

[lyric gate]

how is taht 0 dps

[balmy condor]

it's the same uptime

[lyric gate]

when bane goes

14

and you shiv before the global

tahts even 3 sec

😮

[balmy condor]

okay

so that's 2 ticks

[lyric gate]

2 ticks are 2 ticks

[nova kelp]

OMG is this a tea optimisation conversation?!

[balmy condor]

yeah but you'd already be getting 2 ticks

you're not losing out on ticks

they're just bigger ticks

and not by much

[lean plover]

Tea discussion🤢

[nova kelp]

we've not seen tea disc in a good WHILE

[royal lantern]

tea=british=cringe innit bruv

[lyric gate]

teatime

[errant night]

my bad sorry

[balmy condor]

it's just churki being a stubborn prick

[lyric gate]

you said its 0 dps

but its not

[balmy condor]

okay captain semantics

[royal lantern]

[lyric gate]

i just want to be right 1 time in my life

[balmy condor]

it's within the margin of error of the simulation

is that better

[lean plover]

No taxation without representation

[lean plover]

oh not you, you only made a question, thats whats the channel is for mostly

dont feel bad for making questions

[lyric gate]

its just daylie whisper bullying me

before i go to bed

good night my sweethearts

[nova kelp]

take care - people might hit you with the "earned"

[humble verge]

are you excited for more mugzee prog on tuesday whisp

[nova kelp]

yay for us in mugzee gaol

[errant night]

Whew for a second i thought i'd get banned for strating a huge drama about tea

[royal lantern]

lmao

[balmy condor]

monday

[nova kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/wontbuylifeinsurancebutwillaskfora-go-fund-me-butwillsell-fishand-bb-qplates-gif-26493896

[humble verge]

oh mb

[royal lantern]

you didnt start shit man

[balmy condor]

and yes I like the fight

[humble verge]

forgot to look at the time

[errant night]

whole assa chat getting destroyed by a subrogue one trick coming by

[royal lantern]

my colorblind ass hates the mine Spawn Visual

[lean plover]

not even close, you did nothing wrong

asking questions is good

[humble verge]

hungry for more

[royal lantern]

you know

sometimes its good to know that im not the only weirdo

[nova kelp]

I'm really worried about what this implies...

[balmy condor]

bro is enjoying a healthy probiotic beverage

[royal lantern]

me when i meet quake

[humble verge]

he said the nword

"NYAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH"

[nova kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/nyan-cat-rainbow-cat-kitten-kitty-gif-5716621

[humble verge]

why does this take 10 minutes

[lethal arrow]

just wait for wotlk time walking

[nova kelp]

are internet memes the new version of showing someone a picture of a casette tape to instantly work out how old someone is?

[lethal arrow]

invincibles free

[humble verge]

wtf

im getting the ICC cinematic :D

godly music

need to watc hthis

[nova kelp]

wait

does the timerunning "rare item buff" count for mounts?

[lethal arrow]

well

that might, we dont know yet

[nova kelp]

fuck

[lethal arrow]

but WOTLK time walking rewards a box that has like a 10% chance to give you a mount in it

[waxen oyster]

thank god not in gaols

on mugzee

[lethal arrow]

i got mims head last time

[waxen oyster]

thats the raid boss box

[lethal arrow]

youll love it when u get a goal

[nova kelp]

mugzee gaol is just being stuck on the boss

[lethal arrow]

and you hav to put it down yourself

[nova kelp]

mugzee gaols are when you're in the wrong mechanic

[lethal arrow]

really fun to have to dps that golem for 20 seconds

[waxen oyster]

oh yeah those moments make me wanna go velf

[lethal arrow]

i almost did

[nova kelp]

wait, you get to actually dps the golems?

[lethal arrow]

but the moneys not worth it

i mean theres no reason to not just vanish ambush them

i say fk it

[nova kelp]

man in our group, if you're not one of the assigned monks you get ready to afk coz like

[waxen oyster]

yeah you can kinda dps the golems

[nova kelp]

you can't do shit

like at all

you just kill it too fast

[waxen oyster]

still do more outside

[lethal arrow]

depends on the group

but i do it anyways

cuz at WORST u get a free darkest night envenom

[tranquil crystal]

!fui

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[humble verge]

you guys run VV?

smh

i still play MA

[waxen oyster]

If i get the gaol drop i get a good

10 seconds or more

to smack the goon

[lethal arrow]

isnt playing MA kinda trolling

[humble verge]

why is it trolling

[balmy condor]

less execute

less cleave

[humble verge]

but its still simming better

[lethal arrow]

on who lol

that cant be right

[humble verge]

so i would rather play it on cauldron, sprocket

[nova kelp]

sim's better for me

but I play vv

[humble verge]

sims better for most

probably

but i do play vv ofcourse

[balmy condor]

it sims better for everyone

but vv is better execute

[humble verge]

its just some fights i pref it

[balmy condor]

and better aoe

[lethal arrow]

the latter half of bosses are like all execute bosses

[nova kelp]

vv does feel worse though imo

[lethal arrow]

esp sprocket/bandit/mugzee

cant speak for gally since we're not on it quite yet

[nova kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/lilpotate-lil-potate-potate-potato-tired-gif-1759895116591111840

no nrg

[lethal arrow]

but i swear OAB and Mugzee needs that execute dmg bad

[waxen oyster]

Whispyr what do you think

on radiant vs depths

[balmy condor]

depths in raid, radiant in m+

[bronze pike]

r u excited

[nova kelp]

one of each, and forget that enchants are a thing

[bronze pike]

for twlight dev?

i am

3 more days

[waxen oyster]

seeing other classes use secondary proc enchant is funny

[lethal arrow]

u mean void ritual

[bronze pike]

if your lame

[nova kelp]

echoing void

[lethal arrow]

isnt it just void ritual for everyone

[nova kelp]

for reals

[bronze pike]

imagine optimizing single digit % instead of having fun

[nova kelp]

TD for visual glory

[humble verge]

i just like to use vanish ok

[waxen oyster]

How much work is getting the enchant

[bronze pike]

big beam go brrr

[waxen oyster]

even

[lethal arrow]

uh prob can get it before raid on tuesday

if thats ur schedule

i dont think its super long

[humble verge]

whisp

why is wowhead down

[nova kelp]

yeah but now that everyone has "spell detail: essential" noone will see eachothers beams, which drastically reduces the fun value

[balmy condor]

you can get the lesser version before raid on tuesday

greater enchants are timegated

[lethal arrow]

oh nvmd

[waxen oyster]

Whats the diff

i havent read shi

[lethal arrow]

more dps from greaters

[balmy condor]

greater is greater

[nova kelp]

greater than lesser

[lethal arrow]

lesser is like probably .5% or less dps increase

and greater is closer to 2%

[balmy condor]

1% from lessers, 2.5% from greaters roughly

the lessers are half

[lethal arrow]

close enough

[nova kelp]

imagine if someone had done sims and posted it in the pins

who would do that?

[lethal arrow]

i might run gushing for fun

class fantasy and all that

[nova kelp]

you just wana make mugzee gush

I see you

[lethal arrow]

though echoing means more cleave

and im also a fan of that

[nova kelp]

I might run twisted appendage for RP value

[bronze pike]

i mean ya i guess

but i still like the big beam

my fun factor isnt changed :3

i still hope they make corruption all expansion long. having it for rest of season 2 is lamege

[lethal arrow]

not really much fun from a proc on an enchant that you have no control of

at least the haste enchantments back then gave you perma lust

[nova kelp]

my all time favourite memory of big beam
was watching my tank with 9 billion ranks of TD hitting maut in reflect with a dev, and instantly wrecking himself
getting brezzed, hitting the boss with a single auto attack, proccing TD at the end of the reflect and killing himself AGAIN

[nova kelp]

bro, True Zoomer Sin back then with 200% haste was hella fun

but so was TD spam sin in M+ with the dual weild fist weapons lol

[humble verge]

man

doing ulduar takes so much time

[worthy rose]

its an oldschool raid tbh

older raids def felt more like a chore

ulduar definitely shorter than icc tho

[humble verge]

nahh

icc is shorther than ulduar

[winged sun]

holy fucking shit

not a single gcd was wrong

in this key

[humble verge]

farover doing poo dps

smh

[pastel roost]

Bro finishing with the song " cutting it close" and 2 sec left behind is peak :p

[jaunty warren]

Well now that the upper limit has been set…I am going to take my mere mortal self and raid

[winged sun]

haha

fuck it i'll play the song again

[worthy rose]

2 deaths

tsk tsk

rookie numbers

[humble verge]

yoda is playing protwar

doing 20s

what

[winged sun]

not my fault on both deaths

[worthy rose]

if it was me in the key

[winged sun]

1st warrior didnt move

to spread

[worthy rose]

id be double digit deaths

[winged sun]

and

2nd death i always step healer on xav

and he was in circle behind his back unlucky

[worthy rose]

oh wait

was it you who died twice

just blame it on rogue survivability

[nova flax]

that sounds like

ur fault

[humble verge]

WAIT

YOU DIED TWICE

worst rogue ever

[winged sun]

nah

healer my premade

u have to step on that boss

otherwise u die

so

nothing u can do about it

if he stands incorrectly i die

[jaunty warren]

What’s the key to avoiding the charging rhinos on last boss of TOP….they kill me on the regular

[coral ibex]

um

eyes?

[jaunty warren]

Not helpful

[coral ibex]

idk man they charge from the opposite side of the room

you have to look for them

maybe change your bigwigs notification for it

[jaunty warren]

I use dbm but that’s an idea …usually around the time I see one another is hitting me from the side or back

[waxen oyster]

all my homies hate dbm

[dense cove]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[waxen oyster]

cant you make certain mechanics bigger

[jaunty warren]

We clearly don’t share homies🤣

[waxen oyster]

in settings

or is that just a bigwigs thing

[jaunty warren]

I will dig into it…I had not considered the idea…was looking for the in game queue that rhinos were coming

[waxen oyster]

i mean the in game sign is them on your screen

[jaunty warren]

Yeah that’s proving to be too late…

Rhino horn thru my chest is not a useful warning to me

[waxen oyster]

zoom out more

[humble verge]

anyone else use ellesmere WA

[waxen oyster]

i dont know cant you usually see them the moment they spawn in the area

[jaunty warren]

Yeah I can but they move quick…and I need to know where is safe …usually I see one or two appear and turn to look…and eat a horn to the face

[spice surge]

they stand still for like 5 seconds before they move

[waxen oyster]

Like that's the game's visual cue, otherwise just emphasize the timer on the spawn.

[humble verge]

honestly

the dogs at the end of top

shouldnt be that hard to dodge

imo

usually nothing happens when they come

only once in like a 10 or 12

[west crown]

!fok

[humble verge]

you get dragged + them

[prisma monolith]

Fok Conditions Post-Buff
Fan of Knives as a generator to replace ambush/mutilate:

• Baseline 3+ targets, -1 if talented into momentum of despair and thrown precision, +1 if talented into vicious venoms, +1 if talented into blindside. (Generally 5 with raid build, 3 with Bleed m+, 2 with Hybrid m+)
  Fan of Knives with Clear the Witnesses Up:
• Baseline 2+ targets, -1 if lingering darkness is up or you aren't talented into vicious venoms. With Vicious Venoms casting during lingering darkness is dps neutral.
  Fan of Knives with Darkest Night Up:
• Only on 2+ targets, or without Vicious Venoms talented. This is also a very very minor optimization

The most important to remember is the generator rules, clear the witnesses and darkest night optimizations can be effectively ignored as they are not meaningful DPS improvements

[waxen oyster]

I think like there is one overlap with ghost spawns

[humble verge]

yeah

[waxen oyster]

otherwise boss just does a frontal

[lyric gate]

5 mill in top is wild

[jaunty warren]

At least one overlap with ghost spawn and one with boss frontal

[dense cove]

does anyone know by looking at this pic how i can get the nameplates closer together so they aren't stacking to the ceiling? also any idea what might be causing two timers on the debuffs?

[lyric gate]

overlap

first page settings

left side

[winged sun]

its r1 log

all classes in the game

[lyric gate]

hacking

[winged sun]

higher than mage and dk with 10-11 pi's

[west crown]

is tricks off the gcd?

[humble verge]

yes

[lyric gate]

how lol

[humble verge]

hes just like that

[winged sun]

oh

i even had to soothe bloodhorn

[worthy rose]

so what we're seeing

[winged sun]

twice

[worthy rose]

is that the rank 1 parse and rank 1 rogue

cant survive with 0 deaths in the dungeon

i am now vindicated in that rogues have bad survivability

[lyric gate]

you play double shiv

xd

no excuse

[worthy rose]

whenever i die im gonna just say zeross died too

[worthy rose]

*** BrO WhErE'S Ur 3K SCoRe***

[lyric gate]

lul what

[worthy rose]

jk double shiv is aight

i just play whatever i see

dont think too hard about it

[lyric gate]

im not even 2k#

[balmy condor]

you guys are on opposite ends

one thinks too much, the other not enough

[worthy rose]

yall expect too much of me

i just play the game

yolo send it

[lyric gate]

gettin bullied for my rio

[balmy condor]

idc bout your rio

[lyric gate]

.

[balmy condor]

oh

well Idc about harunie

didn't even read it even though it was bolded

[lyric gate]

think lil gups head exploded from the 3k archievements dopamine kick

ill get there some point

[keen spruce]

why not 3.7k

[lethal arrow]

u either u get title or u dont

io is pointless

[drifting cloud]

why not sub

(to the game)

[keen spruce]

nice try satan

[lyric gate]

classic +10 player oppinion

[balmy condor]

based

[drifting cloud]

you know this churki dumbass is 3.4k btw right, cant you just give him a timeout for intentionaly trolling

[spice surge]

Big assa is preventing me from playing sub in keys right now

[drifting cloud]

like theres dozens upon dozens of posts

hes literally only here to bait reactions typing dumb shit

[lethal arrow]

what other point is there tho

ur either a title pusher or ur doing keys for vault for raid

[lyric gate]

so much hate

[spice surge]

Tbf you can do 12s for the mount and the dinar stuff now too. But ye theres nothing between that and title

[lethal arrow]

yeah yeah outside of the uhhh mount etc

get 3k get ur mount and be done lol

[lyric gate]

playing game for fu?

?bad thing

[drifting cloud]

I mean 3k was a nice add, but then they also rescaled dungeons and gave us more ilvl so difficulty wise its now easier than s1 portals first month in lol

[lethal arrow]

i mean there were more rewards sure

[spice surge]

thats fair

[lethal arrow]

give us back like cosmetics or something

[spice surge]

But season 1 is typically harder

In like every expansion

[drifting cloud]

yeah I guess the balance is just off

[spice surge]

And people have like no gear going into it

[drifting cloud]

so every week youre waiting to see how many hotfixes they push to dungeons

[spice surge]

So its like "are people struggling with this because they have shit gear or because its overtuned?"

[drifting cloud]

this might be the first season when the dungeons new to the pool arent a total shitshow at the start

[spice surge]

Well they did do like weekly hotfixes

For a while

Turns out that makes the experience better

Who couldve foreseen this

[drifting cloud]

yeah if only they were that fast with grim batol and siege

[spice surge]

Still wish they made the sawblades in mechagon slower though

So much gaming required on that boss its rough

[lyric gate]

3rd boss?

[drifting cloud]

oh are you back to pushing Eleem

didnt you say you got fotmed out like 2 weeks ago

[spice surge]

It was more like a month ago, but then i found friends

[lyric gate]

pog

i only get hate

[drifting cloud]

damn zerocool is barely on first page of rogues

how the mighty have fallen

[lyric gate]

bro ran out of cigarettes

[drifting cloud]

@spice surge you have enough io to make a build now

[worthy rose]

nah its a meme 3k isnt even that hard

[spice surge]

Here you go Old school cleave build

[worthy rose]

i pray with whispyr's left nut that next season we dont have a shadowlands dungeon

coz fuck that place

actually every single dungeon from shadowlands ive experienced is straight flaming garbage

they should just delete the entire expansion

[lethal arrow]

tazavesh

[worthy rose]

forget it existed

i would rather take a violet hold

than anything that came out of shadowlands

fuck me

with a seething and malding passion

fuck shadowlands

necrotic wake?

theatre of pain?

fucking dogshit is what they are

[lethal arrow]

plaguefall

[worthy rose]

shadowlands in general

who was the developer or person in charge of teh shadowlands expansion

[lyric gate]

you have that xtra 10% slow for ml?

[balmy condor]

you realize ion has been game director since like legion

[worthy rose]

no becuase again

i havent played since cata

[drifting cloud]

well game directors dont change that often

[spice surge]

Its either the better slow or shorter cd on shroud, depends on what you need

[lethal arrow]

hes directed everything

[worthy rose]

he can watch DEEZ NUTS

[spice surge]

@drifting cloud Tbf im not really memeing about that cleave build btw, aoe is obviously slightly lower but ST is quite high (As expected since its dropping aoe talents for ST talents)

Did fine when i tried it

[drifting cloud]

oh I believe you dont worry, but I did 3k 20 ilvls ago and I think those are staying my highest keys this season

[spice surge]

But the scent one probably slightly better

If you can get scent value on bosses

[drifting cloud]

I think I need to do a priory12 in the next 2months so I can buy priory with a dinar since I wont have anything else to spend it on

[spice surge]

[drifting cloud]

unless I buy tmog with it

[spice surge]

Not playing scent is such a vibe though, you just rupture a dying mob if you need energy and then you keep envenoming

[drifting cloud]

yeah my delve bosses take too long in bleed build

maybe I should save a 3rd loadout

15 hc crests in 6min x 3 > weekly key

[worthy rose]

delvers are a different breed

i cant imagine doing so many delves to get gear

[drifting cloud]

I mean its faster crests than doing weeklies

[worthy rose]

is it faster or slower than doing a 12

[drifting cloud]

and t hats before you count time spent in lfg

depends how fast you do the 12

[spice surge]

right after reset you'd get cracked 12s with all the raider andies capping out their crests

Now that wave has passed and its back to gamba

[dense cove]

do you all use two different binds to bleed current target and mouseover targets?

[spice surge]

Id recommend a modifier on the same button

Like my rupture is 4, but mouseover is ctrl-4

[dense cove]

fair enough!

[coral ibex]

i just have all my abilities on mouseover

with elvui

[worthy rose]

you guys have mouseover bleed macros?

shit thats actually big brain

i should do that

[ocean shell]

Hey I just did a quick search but couldn't find the answer, but is the caustic splatter aoe around target or yourself?

[drifting cloud]

you can do it with 1 bind aswell but there will be times wheres its not optimal

[spice surge]

#assassination message

Per the pin

[coral ibex]

erm per my last email

[wise plume]

its a pain in the ass honestly

at least for me it is

[worthy rose]

i just cbf minmaxing like that

i just send it

[wise plume]

my biggest issue with trying to use it is finding my fuckin mouse but also having to readjust my camera angle for some adds having a frontal or displacement ability

and then i misclick

[lyric gate]

get boomer weakaura with circle curor

[worthy rose]

you can do the windows setting

press control to find cursor

it has a circle thing around cursor so you can see it

[dense cove]

@spice surge could you send me your macro with the modifier in it so i can copy it?

[wise plume]

circle cursor you say

my eyesight isnt that bad yet

[worthy rose]

im not gonna lie

it really helps with a massive screen

i bought one of the new lg oleds

4k 32inch whatever

teh tiny cursor can sometimes get lost when ur flicking through stuff

[wise plume]

i want to get a 1440 32in but i play cs2 too often

[worthy rose]

its hilarious i bought it for hte 4k 240hz and 1080p 480hz

but ive used the 1080p 480hz the times i can count on my hand

barely used

gg

you should get the screen i did then if you wanna do that

the 1080p 480hz is real fast response

back to the original raiderio topic tho

just to dobule check

theres no more rewards for mere mortals after 3k score right

the mount

coz after that you gotta be the top 0.1% to get hte title

i can retire from mythicing now right

[coral ibex]

yea unless you want title there's no reason to push beyond the thrill of the climb

[worthy rose]

noice

time to sit back and do my 8 10's a week for vault

[drifting cloud]

you can farm imaginary points to look better in day1 of lfg of next season!

[worthy rose]

i still find it crazy how 3k+ is the top 10% of the playerbase

but it felt so easy

like dafuq

[drifting cloud]

well its all chars, not the playerbase

[worthy rose]

fair

[drifting cloud]

so yeah every char whos ever timed a 2 qualifies

[balmy condor]

wow is not a competitive game

like fundamentally it's a game for casual gamers

the mmo genre as a whole is more casual

[drifting cloud]

@bleak sky link io

[worthy rose]

tell that to people who compare parses

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah, people make it competitive

[bleak sky]

why are you hate criming me

[balmy condor]

but compared to like big name games

fornite, league

rocket league

csgo

[drifting cloud]

im just interested in your progress after that motherlode2

[balmy condor]

like there's very clearly defined ranking systems

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/lighthouse-the-lighthouse-wake-laugh-wake-laughing-gif-5252594120951449508

[balmy condor]

in all of these competitive games

[worthy rose]

what happened

[bleak sky]

https://raider.io/characters/us/area-52/Minalbafel
rat

[drifting cloud]

yo 10 timed big

[balmy condor]

minalbafel off + ratio + L + bozo

[worthy rose]

are we rooting for minalba to succeed

whats happenin

[balmy condor]

we are cause minalba a homie

but he's also brazilian

so

[bleak sky]

shove a comcast cable up your ass and have it fracture inside

[keen spruce]

Whispyr has just decided to remove the part of his brain that remembers PVP ladders and competitive tournaments exist (rightfully so)

[worthy rose]

br hue br hue

[balmy condor]

real

[worthy rose]

pvp doesnt exist in wow

[keen spruce]

It's a joke

just like wow pvp

[balmy condor]

I mean yes that's true but also mmo pvp is just overshadowed by any other game that's also pvp

[worthy rose]

realistically tho

when are we expecting mina to get to 3k

if i could do it so can you @bleak sky

[drifting cloud]

dreamteam

[worthy rose]

who is makeitquake

[balmy condor]

@spice spire why are you a higher ilvl than me

sus

[drifting cloud]

bro no shot youre 672

[worthy rose]

is it sus

like sussybaka

[dense cove]

where do you add an additional debuff to show on nameplate in plater? 😮

[balmy condor]

nah I'm like 679 or something

[worthy rose]

apparently hes 673

unless this is the wrong whispyr

[balmy condor]

yeah but that's fake

cause it's eye + circlet

[drifting cloud]

because youre farming online right now and it hasnt updated yet?

[coral ibex]

this guy has a 658 bracer fucking KILL HIM

[balmy condor]

also have crafts

[drifting cloud]

[worthy rose]

ok found you

[balmy condor]

real whispyr

double darkmoon deck

bro is a cranker

[worthy rose]

hes fully cranked

was crankin his hog too hard

[bleak sky]

dog I'm barely playing the game and I don't raid

[worthy rose]

mythic dungeon not raiding

you alreayd got aotc

[winged sun]

its time to gaslight murlok io @balmy condor

heart of azeroth now bis for m+

[worthy rose]

if you guys log off in your shittiest gear

and let murlok scrape it

will it troll an entire playerbase

it would prob troll people like me who just check murlok occasionally to see whats what

[bleak sky]

only if they're stupid

[balmy condor]

you have to log out with some random ass build like no kb no dtb

[winged sun]

ohj

1 sec

LOLOL

[balmy condor]

so then harunie can steal the build from murlok

[worthy rose]

ayo

why am i being buli

[winged sun]

im gonna use the build u sent me before

[worthy rose]

which one

[winged sun]

sec

the one whispyr sent before

[worthy rose]

but these were allt ehbuilds yall recommended

[winged sun]

logging

[worthy rose]

the whole reason i used the first one was coz you recommended it like months ago

[drifting cloud]

if it has deathmark its too strong

[worthy rose]

see im the typa guy

to import a build

and just send it

reading talents is for nerds

[dense cove]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

I don't know what that build is

terrifying

[worthy rose]

the unknown build is the deadliest

https://tenor.com/view/zed-gif-27511766

[balmy condor]

bro just hit me with a zed gif aintnoway