assassination

[lyric gate]

https://pastebin.com/raw/5nf906Pc

like this

for consumables

this one is for new corruptions

[iron carbon]

#tc-research message

[iron carbon]

This one

[lyric gate]

chad

@coral ibex

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bYgXgj9tEVZbHyxUWjVySK

whetstone not that bad

[royal lantern]

????

whetstone is literally what you should use always everywhere

lol

what are you guys on about rn

[clever sparrow]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZgGjCNWQLqpTy732?fight=last&type=summary

WITH POT!

[lyric gate]

just did 3 mill on that boss on hc pug

got no padd on the adds cause ele was saving ascendence for it

but not bad

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WzyXRLB3JwNgM9PT?fight=10&type=damage-done

look at that guy

200 mill on adds

[brave comet]

does evade work on the spinny mugzee attack in mythic

[lyric gate]

dont think so

what spinny you mean

[brave comet]

during intermission

you know when he charges and uses both guns and spins around

[lethal arrow]

evade does not work

[brave comet]

neither does cloak correct?

[lethal arrow]

cloak does

cloak pretty much always works lol

[upper violet]

If you are a true gamer shadow step to evade the attack

[lethal arrow]

or yeah just step

[brave comet]

to boss?

he'll annihilate me

[upper violet]

Yes

[lethal arrow]

yes

[lyric gate]

shadowstep works

[upper violet]

You can shadow step behind Mug'zee during his helicopter and take 0 dmg

[lethal arrow]

he spins and it puts u behind him

[upper violet]

The walls that get placed down by the golem adds, are those LoS breakers?

[fervent fog]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[lethal arrow]

yes

u can only spatter the golems through the wall

[waxen oyster]

It depends how boss is tanked

[upper violet]

Ah okay, I was thinking you could garrote n Rupture golem add then step back to mug'zee for more boss uptime

[lethal arrow]

nope

[waxen oyster]

only if void elf

[lethal arrow]

you could if ur void elf

[keen spruce]

Void elf

[upper violet]

Race change for Workshop and Mug'zee... thoughts?

lol

[keen spruce]

Velf also gets the hentai tendie out the back of their head

[waxen oyster]

biggest benefit of void elf is just the

50% off transmog

[keen spruce]

[waxen oyster]

as a flavor racial

[upper violet]

Omg your right @waxen oyster thats huge brain. I spend more gold on x-mog then I do on crafts or aug runes

[sullen mural]

Lowkey huge

[waxen oyster]

It is kind of big if you mog very often

[upper violet]

I'm not kidding its like 1k gold everytime you change your fit. 50% off is huge savings

My wife would even agree that is a deal

[waxen oyster]

like 800 something yeah

big if you do it alot

[upper violet]

Its 800g then you decide ehhh let me change weapon and it goes to 1200 lol

[sullen mural]

I hate being a dwarf mogs look so bad

Make racials useless i beg

[upper violet]

Dwarf in plate can look good

[waxen oyster]

dwarf only has a few mogs that work well on them

[sullen mural]

Im using full halloween set

[waxen oyster]

good thing theres enough toys to never actually play as a dwarf

[sullen mural]

And recal into gnome

Gg

[waxen oyster]

[humble verge]

evasion

oh wait

u meant mugzee

[brave comet]

lmao

[humble verge]

yeah you can safely step him if u time it

[waxen oyster]

the halloween set actually works on dwarves

[humble verge]

i did it every time on prog

[waxen oyster]

idk why it just does

[humble verge]

you just have to not be in him when he starts blazing

or just precloak it and step

[brave comet]

oh the shadow step? you mean

[humble verge]

yeah

well

i stepped the first one

[waxen oyster]

doesnt he spend 1-2 gcds

[humble verge]

used sprint on second since its so short

[waxen oyster]

befoee he starts blasting

[humble verge]

no he insta does it

[sullen mural]

Yup

Only mog im wearing

Fuck dwarf otherwise

[upper violet]

Wait what is the hallloween set?

[waxen oyster]

the harvester golem set

[sullen mural]

That one

[upper violet]

Ah okay

I thought there was a rogue specific one

[sullen mural]

Rogues getting something

Lmao

[waxen oyster]

Most rogue specific sets are kinda

poopy on dwarf

[waxen oyster]

the nerubar set is nice just not on dwarves

[keen spruce]

Nothing in nice on dwarves

Is*

[rotund oak]

looks sick on an undead^^

[normal mist]

it does yes

you know what else looks sick on undead?

[rotund oak]

[keen spruce]

Goes well with drustvar daggies

[waxen oyster]

still mad they fumbled t2 remake

for rogue

[keen spruce]

It looks fine

Just too bright

And clean

[waxen oyster]

the eyes dont look sinister

[normal mist]

#assassination message

[waxen oyster]

for bloodfang

[keen spruce]

Needed a more muted red and sinister helmet ye

[waxen oyster]

like why is the paladin set

randomly angy

[rotund oak]

huge gz

[waxen oyster]

on the helmet

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-justice-league-batman-mood-brood-gif-14855600461153137116

Er no wrong one

https://tenor.com/view/real-life-batman-gif-18344577568836981509

There that’s more paladin

[waxen oyster]

i mean

hallowfall plate set

looks more like a paladin tierset

than any of the tww ones

[arctic socket]

Paladins

[waxen oyster]

rogue set this season looks

like absolute shieett

though

temu version of plunderstorm set

[arctic socket]

Only part on the rogue set that looks bad is the helm

You can take a lot of the peices and make it work with other tmogs

[waxen oyster]

Disagree

[arctic socket]

Them shoulders big W

Boots n gloves

Big

[waxen oyster]

nerubar set was way btter

imo

[summer cape]

I'm having some issues, looking at my logs and top logs i see my deathmark uptime in heroism phase at around 30-40% while other rogues are at like 87ish%, what am i missing?

[arctic socket]

T3 bonescythe best set

I’m a basic bitch

[waxen oyster]

competitive

but tos remake of t6

pvp color

[keen spruce]

Are you looking at “deathstalker’s mark” or “deathmark”

[summer cape]

Deathmark

[keen spruce]

[keen spruce]

Well hero is like 40s

And deathmark is 20s

25s?

I can’t remember

Idk

[waxen oyster]

16

[keen spruce]

Yeah that

[arctic socket]

Wish deathmark was 25 seconds

Blessed

[keen spruce]

[waxen oyster]

bonescythe is one of the better rogue sets

but imo black and red fanged slayer

is too cleab

[runic hinge]

Wish death mark was 1 minute and also made your bleeds tick twice as fast

[arctic socket]

Calling black bloodfang recolor more clean than t3

Is a war crime

[waxen oyster]

fanged slayer

[lyric gate]

never liked t3

[arctic socket]

O

[waxen oyster]

the t20 pvp color

[arctic socket]

The tos set

Elite

Was sexy

[glad mortar]

Why does the Nerubar Palace set make my human look like a chode?

[waxen oyster]

dont wear the helmet

[arctic socket]

I believe the mage tower recolor white/black looks cleanest

[waxen oyster]

that color was good

[arctic socket]

Goggles / cursed vision / pimp hat

Lock in

[waxen oyster]

I dont have pvp enchant like this guy though

[runic hinge]

I be wearing t3 or DF s1 elite set

[waxen oyster]

mop remix ensemble dagger matches super well though

[arctic socket]

Hard not to be basic and run this tho

[waxen oyster]

yellow

[arctic socket]

I have all the tabards

I just got the yellow one in that sc

[waxen oyster]

and you chose piss yellow

I have all but purple

[arctic socket]

Void / brilliance is best imo

[waxen oyster]

ye

[arctic socket]

The purple one is stinky

[waxen oyster]

i just dont like brilliance as much these days

because they gave it away for free

[arctic socket]

Right

The best tabard

Gave away for free

Was a war crime

😦

[waxen oyster]

well void>brill

to me

[arctic socket]

Be real

It’s a 50/50

[waxen oyster]

void matches more mogs

[arctic socket]

Only reason why void is better now to me is since it’s not as easily accessible

[waxen oyster]

brilliance when it looks clean

looks super clean

but i think void just fits more sets

[arctic socket]

I wish they would add glad enchantments to the bmah

Would sell my kidney for the glad tryanica

[waxen oyster]

Yeah that’ll never happen

[arctic socket]

Don’t say that

[waxen oyster]

They’d add elite mogs first

if going down that path

[arctic socket]

Elite prideful

[waxen oyster]

prideful rogue was buttcheeks

[arctic socket]

Wait was the one

Primal

?

[waxen oyster]

Premier oldschool rogue elite is last 2 seasons of cata

imo

[hollow river]

they need to start adding them to vendors that let you buy them if you're above X rating

[arctic socket]

Yeeee primal

[hollow river]

its been over a decade

[waxen oyster]

primal was purple spiderman

ruthless was comically large orange spike shoulder

[arctic socket]

I liked the mask / shoulders

A lot

[waxen oyster]

somehow every dh set they made after legion

sucks

or has only 1-2 good offpieces

The one wod season where elite was a different model

[arctic socket]

Wish they would rerelease the wod challenge mode dagger

I’m so depressed I I didn’t buy it

[waxen oyster]

i wish you could lock the animation state

its so annoying

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/gay-art-lgbtq-art-lgbtq-arts-gay-pride-gay-rights-ally-gif-7192964189908585511

[arctic socket]

What did Quake tell you

[waxen oyster]

Also i wish they didnt decide

[gloomy heart]

clean with primal glad tabard sheesh

[waxen oyster]

lets give assa magetower a neat appearance

[gloomy heart]

im such a fiend for mogs

[waxen oyster]

then make 2/4 of the colors a shade of blue

[keen spruce]

Glyph to make vanish drop a cosmetic clone of yourself

[waxen oyster]

tyrannical glad probably works better for that mog

[keen spruce]

Or smoke bomb

[waxen oyster]

I just never see anyone with it all

[keen spruce]

Or log like in naruto

[gloomy heart]

not mad they gave away some tabards away i only paid like 500k for most of mine

[keen spruce]

Tyrannical was my first PvP mog

Goofy hat

[waxen oyster]

its probably the cleanest glad tabard

imo

[gloomy heart]

nahh primal bangs

[waxen oyster]

outside of wrath tabards

[gloomy heart]

this one wasnt too bad last season

rest are shit

[waxen oyster]

Yeah it works into some mogs

No one mention bfa tabards

[arctic socket]

I want a glad tabard

[waxen oyster]

[gloomy heart]

i just use tcg tabards

[keen spruce]

I never use tabards

[arctic socket]

All I have is the cata glad tabard

[keen spruce]

They just look like dresses

[gloomy heart]

my only one 😦

[arctic socket]

[gloomy heart]

the worst one

[waxen oyster]

oh corrupted

[thick forge]

stupid question, on raid(st) u want use envenom on 6-7 or 5-7 cp

[waxen oyster]

basically notorious with a faction tag mspainted on

[gloomy heart]

yeah i only got my first elite on corrupted

big womp womp

[waxen oyster]

unchained was also pretty meme

[gloomy heart]

my first gladiator haha was unchained

[waxen oyster]

(i say this as if all the sl tabards arent same shit different color)

[gloomy heart]

only good one was the red one

cosmic works with some mogs

[waxen oyster]

Yeah thats the thing

most of the tabards work with a few mogs

tyrannical is just more usable overall

[gloomy heart]

yeah thats why i spent all of SL S1 just doing gold boosts

now i can just use any tcg tabard

[waxen oyster]

well flame is whatever

prob not even worth off bmah

[gloomy heart]

yeah only like $30

thats what i got mine for atleast

[waxen oyster]

dont even recall when i got mine

[gloomy heart]

most i spent on a tcg tab was 1M

which was void

[waxen oyster]

Its always gonna be void

frost cost me 700k

[gloomy heart]

yeah frost i think i got for 525k

same with brilliance

[waxen oyster]

nature 25k somehow

way back when

ngl the max renown flames radiance tabard

is kind of clean

[gloomy heart]

i cba farming that

[waxen oyster]

same

[gloomy heart]

i got most of my rogue t3 for like 10k

[waxen oyster]

but its actually not a bad modern tabard

[hollow river]

iirc i spent 2m on void

and i even went to a low pop server to bid

[keen spruce]

[hollow river]

expecting to grab it cheap

[keen spruce]

That’s too many sheckles

[hollow river]

[waxen oyster]

Lol sheesh

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/money-burn-cash-shoveling-gif-5348644

[gloomy heart]

yeah i got lucky on 1M

thats cheap for void

[keen spruce]

For a blanket

[waxen oyster]

I think most i spent was a bit over 1m on dreadnaught shoulders

[hollow river]

i had a fuckload of gold then from boosting n shit

bought full bonescythe as well

[waxen oyster]

this was before you could craft t3

people spending more than craft price on bmah are

[gloomy heart]

yeah in season 1 of slands i would just venthyr duel cheese and 1v2 most games

was super easy to boost in arena

[hollow river]

same

i prolly spent ~3m on full bonescythe

[waxen oyster]

Oh

i spent under 200k

way back when

[hollow river]

i got a couple pieces for 10k

[gloomy heart]

yeah i dont spend much anymore, i spent 20M getting me and gf swift zulian tigers

[hollow river]

but mostly 500k-1m

[waxen oyster]

This was back when only t3 that actually got big bids

was dreadnaught

and frostfire

[gloomy heart]

yeah i got full rog t3 for prob 500kish and plagueheart aswell

then i dumped 3M on frostfire and priest tier

and i got druid tier for prob 1M for all

[waxen oyster]

i dont like priest set

[brave comet]

just to make sure cause i dont wanna die at the end to ice spears just before we kill myth mugzee, i can cloak them right?

[balmy condor]

No

[royal lantern]

no, and you are probably assinged for a rocket soak with cloak anyway?

[brave comet]

im back up, but any immune dies and i take their place on it

good reminder tryan, thank you

[spice surge]

Well if you cloak the spears you wont die, but you will still be stunned for 30 seconds

[polar rampart]

i don't raid on my rogue really, should i just buy a mythic pm with my first dinar? i already have a signet

[royal lantern]

iceblock at home

[spice surge]

It also seems like if anybody gets iceblocked earlier on in the fight the fingergun frontal is guaranteed to go on them

(thats a meme, but its been our experience)

[arctic socket]

Fingergun

[royal lantern]

[spice spire]

Yeah just get the priests to grip you if you need assistance out of stuff

[fleet pagoda]

hello (my favorite) congregation of hot dudes. is it safe to assume the raidbots bug is affecting the Gear Compare thing as well?

[balmy condor]

Yes

[fleet pagoda]

ty

[thin portal]

I dont think I can play bleed

Especially when cooked

Applying bleeds goes bad and then no spatter

Pack is deadge with no dmg

I kinda like hybrid build tho

Just spam envenoms

With spatter

Ez mode

[royal lantern]

how prog is going

[thorn thorn]

That goon is gooning all over your raid

[lyric gate]

that are first ones? xd

bleed is way easier the hybrid

and stronger then it on low keys

[twin bay]

and mobs dying fast is what you want with bleed build

[lyric gate]

y thats why bleed is better lol#

[hidden inlet]

But then you do dogshit st

[lyric gate]

look at that traitor

[lethal arrow]

replaced champ jastors with a crafted ring

681

[lyric gate]

@winged sun

[hollow river]

thats assa in general

[subtle tundra]

@midnight mist the guy most likely to be romania's president just called macron a dictator

is it true?

[midnight mist]

in current world politic

we have like

a lot more to worry about

than macron

[subtle tundra]

well yeah my presidentials...

[midnight mist]

chill guy idk what he is doing rn

[balmy condor]

He called a cookie a dictator

That’s crazy

[subtle tundra]

yeah ik...

[midnight mist]

im not really interested in french politics

[subtle tundra]

also compared france to israel

[midnight mist]

but like

macron seems afk to me

no idea what he is doing or if he is doing stuffs

i hear way more about that orange guy for example

trump?

[balmy condor]

Enjoy it while you have jt, we had that for 4 years between trump terms

The silence is nice sometimes

[spice surge]

Macron is very jealous he doesnt get a mobile macdonalds truck everywhere he goes

[balmy condor]

It is exhausting to wake up in the morning and have to hear about the president saying he came up with the word “equalizer”

[midnight mist]

equalizer are great movies

im glad trump invented the word tho so they could name them that

[lethal arrow]

i use one of those for my music on my pc

didnt know he invented those

[midnight mist]

your pc wouldnt have music without trump

let that sink in

[thorn thorn]

Christian could never

[balmy condor]

True

[lethal arrow]

thank u orange man

really outweighs all the other shit

[brave comet]

i legit cant see the bomb spawning at the very beginning, is there a way to be able to see bomb spawn indicator more clearly

[midnight mist]

ye

what bomb

[brave comet]

everyone's effects are exploding and the screen is flashing everywhere

oops, mugzee myth

[subtle tundra]

the same guy that called macron a dictator also called his opposition an autist then said he misspoke and he meant to say nazist and marxist(he is actually a great candidate from all points)

[midnight mist]

i mean the color of the circle is a bit close to the floor but

[midnight mist]

sounds like you are about to have a great time

but would you rather be an american ?

tough choices

[subtle tundra]

his followers are maga fans

like political party

[fleet pagoda]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[lyric gate]

@zac quick workshop +4?

[midnight mist]

i dont do noob keys

try again tomorrow

[balmy condor]

But don’t you need the crests

[midnight mist]

nope !

[balmy condor]

[midnight mist]

im actually finished

after 16 keys

was longf and boring but it is done !

[lyric gate]

kek

youre 683?

[midnight mist]

yep

[lyric gate]

pog

[midnight mist]

you arent ?

[lyric gate]

me2

[midnight mist]

ye

[lyric gate]

ofc

xd

[midnight mist]

you doing 4s at 683

i prolly can solo a 5

without weapons equipped

[lyric gate]

😦

[subtle tundra]

im a 5, wanna solo me?

[midnight mist]

you are a 10 at minimum rava

very cute

[lyric gate]

varas is hardstuck 2k

this season is hard

[balmy condor]

Zac is trying to steal my boyfriend and take him back to dictator city

Unreal

[spice spire]

Back to what tator city?

[balmy condor]

Dick

[midnight mist]

dic

[brave comet]

so does mug zee in intermission get baited by players, or is the boss positioning itself determine where he goes?

[midnight mist]

no

yes

one sec

[balmy condor]

I think it’s boss positioning

[midnight mist]

!

[lyric gate]

he focus frenchs

[balmy condor]

Prepared whispyr

[lyric gate]

then rest

[balmy condor]

Is prepared

[lyric gate]

for what?

[midnight mist]

you know what for

bro i need more ilvl

im not even 684

wtf is this shit

[balmy condor]

true

where's your titan dick belt

[midnight mist]

whospar did you finish farming

oh true

when is that

is it higher than 684

i need the adrenaline of getting more ilvl

i always need more

[lyric gate]

hard now

tbh

[quick hollow]

Is Geargrinder's Spare Keys really that good now for assassin? It has the highest perc damage on bloodmallet for AOE?

[agile wedge]

okay what is this shit on gally, when he gets pulled i get out of stealth and cant apply mark 😄

[gloomy heart]

vanish angle

[agile wedge]

rip

[pseudo wind]

I have a question m+ trinkets related. I have 684 magnet or 671 priori to choose from. patchwerk sims show magnet as better but people use priori (684), any idea how to proceed?

[coral ibex]

both

[pseudo wind]

oh second trinket i have seaforium 684

[humble verge]

@balmy condor are you in on mug prog

[drifting cloud]

depends on comcast

[vital haven]

anybody had this happen to them

[gusty mirage]

If you say Comcast 3 times, whispyr appears in your bedroom and poops on your bed

[vital haven]

specced into SOB, when I deathmark a target, after deathmark expires for some reason it stops counting the rupture on the target i deathmarked for SOB stacks

[balmy condor]

yes

that's how that works

[humble verge]

man, i think im about to apply for a government job

[lyric gate]

in germany you can collect trash for the government

[coral ibex]

guy in my guild just did the gromnak push week meme start to finish

quits the raid after oab, buys gally kill + jastor

booted

[misty holly]

how much did gally cost him?

[coral ibex]

who knows

dont care

[sonic pagoda]

sims are trash

[coral ibex]

[sonic pagoda]

every other day it tells me to use circes and not use circes lmao

im not using circes for the stamina f it

[spice spire]

Have you checked pins mayhaps

[midnight mist]

NO

[sonic pagoda]

yeah ive checked all the pins lmao

675 ilvl using a crafted ring is a 1 item level and way mroe stats gained i imagine i have enough master

mastery so its like nah fuck you dont need circes anymroe

[runic hinge]

You should

[clever sparrow]

1 question.

what does evasion do.

i know it makes me dodge.

but when im not taking direct hit.

[loud hawk]

how much energy should we have before pressing Kingsbane

[clever sparrow]

what it will dodge?

[haughty flicker]

[clever sparrow]

does it matter? as long as you have envenom buff + a shiv to use

[spiral pasture]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[sonic pagoda]

OH no the tank chain pulled and the ret palla did all the dmg on trash and we smoothly timed the 12 mother load sad im so sad i had to manually apply ruptures via FoK rupture FoK rupture sad its the end of the world whoa is me

[thorn thorn]

General rule of thumb if its a physical hit then evasion will dodge it

[clever sparrow]

why that hunter dmg so low?

[thorn thorn]

Sometimes it works on weird stuff

[clever sparrow]

even some aoe shts?

[spice spire]

Hero talent also makes it mitigate magic damage

[thorn thorn]

Sometimes

[clever sparrow]

and how do i know if its physical.

[clever sparrow]

im only using it bcs of that

[spice spire]

Dungeon journal and pray for accuracy

[thorn thorn]

Yeh

[clever sparrow]

BUT IM DOING ON MOBS

[sonic pagoda]

idk its a bm hunter ??? fuck if i care dungeon was smooth lmao

[clever sparrow]

😄

[thorn thorn]

Like if an NPC targets you with generic "shoot" evasion should dodge it

[clever sparrow]

there is no journal for mobs

[thorn thorn]

Doesnt dodge magic stuff

Except occasionally it might

WoW is a game about exceptions

[sonic pagoda]

evasion dodges 20% mitigation to magic stuff with hero talent

[spice spire]

Which mobs are we talking

[sonic pagoda]

what is this guy on about?

[clever sparrow]

for example those saw blades in floodgate

that spawns under feet

[sonic pagoda]

FUckin just press your buttons

[clever sparrow]

lol

[sonic pagoda]

2 min cds press them all the time every time never save

[clever sparrow]

im pushing 14

I NEED TO EVASION!

[spice spire]

Haven’t tried because I use evasion for the circular saw men

That fixate

[clever sparrow]

IM DYING TO RANDOM BULLSHITS

[thorn thorn]

Dunno, probably not

[clever sparrow]

YEAH

[spice spire]

So the pull after needs it

[clever sparrow]

thats cringe af

[thorn thorn]

Just dont stand on the saws

[sonic pagoda]

yeah of course every dungeon opener with lust im pressing evasion and cloak with cds idgaf

[thorn thorn]

[spice spire]

And the pull before the two stack mech also needs it

So it’s never really been an option for me

[sonic pagoda]

or press evasion and keep pumping dmg?

this guy says just avoid the mechanics with skill nah press defensive eat shit and live lol

[clever sparrow]

does evasion dodge the fixate dmg?

[lyric gate]

that pulls easy lol

[clever sparrow]

the spinny guys

[spice spire]

Yes

[clever sparrow]

WTF

[sonic pagoda]

go play it and let me know

[tall atlas]

i just got fucking owned in Dornogol

[lyric gate]

y

[sonic pagoda]

also the fuckin little algea spitters before swapmface thats a cloak for sure

[clever sparrow]

he looks cool af tho

[spice spire]

Uh go next king

[tall atlas]

thats me

he called me winfrey

[lyric gate]

xddchatter

[viscid spear]

The hate always comes from within

[clever sparrow]

lol

[tall atlas]

absolutely roasted

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/theboys-perfect-gif-23821319

[lyric gate]

saw this guy 5 week ago

[clever sparrow]

BUFF ROGUE BY MAKING CHEAT DEATH PASSIVE

i dont want to sacrifice my Elusiveness

[lyric gate]

just dont die

[clever sparrow]

I CANT

i can push to 15

if i stop dying like idiots

[lyric gate]

im stuck at5 cause @midnight mist wont help me

[runic hinge]

He won’t help me either

[tall atlas]

zac is a baguette munching snail licker

.>

<.<

[midnight mist]

wtf is snail licker

[tall atlas]

escargtfo

escargo AWAY

ew

https://tenor.com/view/french-france-benjammins-escargo-escargot-gif-3307293155363088726

sorry tha feels kinda racist

i love u

[latent sand]

guise i feel like ive hit a m+ ceiling, im stuck around 2.5 ml dps, give or take .3, but im not even close to 3 mil, as soon as tank pulls over 5 targets im kinda lost with tabbing between em and applying bleeds, any advice?

[sick mantle]

Guys, why do majority play with pyrotechnic on MH and everforged stabber on OH, when our bis list says otherwise?

[vapid terrace]

Using correct build?

[latent sand]

unless it got updated without me noticing yea

lemme check

well i be damned i actually am not?

[runic hinge]

!build

Wow is moroes dead

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[latent sand]

no more tempered blades

[red schooner]

I have no more items to upgrade

It is over

[runic hinge]

Okay well I guess not

!bleed

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[runic hinge]

Try that @latent sand

[haughty flicker]

wtf

[runic hinge]

Do you mouse over

[latent sand]

will do, tyvm

[runic hinge]

You’re welcome

Spread garrote to everything send out a few ruptures. Press ct press shiv. Climb meters

[haughty flicker]

i used to but too lazy now

[runic hinge]

Yeah I just spam

[haughty flicker]

im just not competitve enough for it

[runic hinge]

I don’t think it’s gonna matter if I’m not doing high keys

[hasty saddle]

is there a crit cap for rogue

[royal lantern]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
• Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[fast phoenix]

ilvl

[coral ibex]

because pyrotechnic drops off the 3rd mythic boss

and the other dagger drops off the 6th

so its the easiest noncrafted myth track dagger to get

and offhand doesn't matter

[rancid wind]

Why is it common practice to have the rogue stand with the tanks in the overlapping healing circles on mythic gallywix?

[fast phoenix]

aka 681 max ilvl crafted vs 684 from myth track

[sick mantle]

K, makes sense. Ty!

[hasty saddle]

how do you improve a 675 crafted to 681

[fast phoenix]

same vendor you buy the matrix for crafted items, will be a 30 gilded crest cost matrix that will upgrade any crafted 6 ilvls @hasty saddle

[coral ibex]

probably bc we're tanky as shit against large single hits

[rancid wind]

It doesn’t really do damage, just adds the healing absorb

[coral ibex]

then they might be immuning it with cloak

[rancid wind]

Nope, that can’t be it either since you do it like every 30s

[runic hinge]

Maybe you can feint it for less absorb

[rancid wind]

It’s basically a non-mechanic when I stand there, just gets healed off right away. I just didn’t know if there was something I was missing as to why I was doing it

Does rogue have some increased healing taken talent or something?

[coral ibex]

yea other than rogue tankiness or cloak not sure

i mean we have that leech talent

xd

[runic hinge]

Shadow heart

Yeah!

I’m memeing

[rancid wind]

I’ve taken it without any defensive and not taken any noticeable damage and the absorb is gone in a second or two

Just looks and feels like it should be a concerning thing to handle

[humble verge]

just get 3

[keen spruce]

[spice surge]

Ye it doesnt matter that much, initially we did it because you can feint so the risk of dying while the healing absorb was still up was low

[coral ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/noahnoah-gif-15569947813902812404

[midnight mist]

thats gallywix

nothing does any damage

even tho it feels like it should

[keen spruce]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/780377679227650079/1143175175391674418/Viberge.gif

[spice surge]

On our first kill we had one of our melee bombs get stunned by the rotating beam while inside the lightning platform thing

He got some externals and was fine

[midnight mist]

fucking gallywaxer man

[humble verge]

time to do my guildies 17 resi rook

lmao

should i play bleed

[keen spruce]

i'll wax your galley

[humble verge]

[keen spruce]

[runic hinge]

[midnight mist]

no !

dont do it

[humble verge]

@winged sun should i play bleed in a 17 rook

[spice surge]

Its unironically fine

Obviously not for last boss ofc

[humble verge]

i went hybrid

[spice surge]

But thats sub stuff anyway

Imagine if sub wasnt tuned horribly, it would absolutely destroy that boss

Instead of just being very strong

[balmy condor]

@winged sun thoughts on the composition

new meta comp

or?

[spice surge]

No monk, 3/5

[keen spruce]

augmentation priest very powerful

[sharp viper]

@keen spruce do you have notifications enabled on pedro or how are you so damn fast?

[balmy condor]

I heard shmeeps is actually the quickest

[sharp viper]

okay this might be bit of a stupid question but does monk debuff amplify bleed damage?

[runic hinge]

This is gonna be me when I reroll spriest

Yea

[balmy condor]

yes

[keen spruce]

when i'm just sitting around at my computer i play wack a mole with discord unread messages

gotta defeat the nubs

[gusty mirage]

I'll show you a nub buddy

[keen spruce]

i'll wack a mole your nub bud

[shy creek]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[gusty mirage]

hope you got a microscope

[keen spruce]

[sharp viper]

[balmy condor]

[sharp viper]

[gusty mirage]

[subtle kiln]

Need more details screen shots to give an educated answer.

[thorn thorn]

Aug is looking mighty strange this time around

[lyric gate]

zeross is retired assa

4min20 last boss flood

[humble verge]

KEKW

[thorn thorn]

A whole 6th of the key being on one boss

A+ dungeon design

[humble verge]

well

ass DPS

i managed to fuckup the first ramp LUL

and tank died like

30s before the key was over

but guildie/pally taunted, but it just got into ramp anyways

[lean plover]

swap to subt after 2nd boss

[humble verge]

[thorn thorn]

That last boss is just really cringe in general

[humble verge]

i have not played sub since like

[thorn thorn]

Also nice details name

[humble verge]

CN

[humble verge]

yeah, i use it to taunt myself

[thorn thorn]

Based asf

Kick your own ass so you inspire yourself to improve

[humble verge]

the thing is

if i pug

raid

and im over another rogue with "0 damage"

you doing something wrong bud

eksde

[thorn thorn]

my favorite part of playing sin was amirdrassil

[lyric gate]

sadge zeross

[thorn thorn]

Doing bosses and with cds going up to first at the start then going to last cuz i am bad

[lyric gate]

1 death over

[true tide]

is there a part of p2 M gally i should plan defensive asides from frontal soaks im immuning?

[spice surge]

Not really no

Nothing really does damage

[humble verge]

but youll keep on wiping to raid wide damage

[true tide]

thats kinda was i was seeing just making my defensive note and il send defensives as i feel i need to in p2 asides from cloak

[winged sun]

dont talk to me

we just

had

the most depressing

deplete of all time

would've been world first 20

[royal lantern]

3 deaths, skill issue

[winged sun]

our dk trolled

w.e

[humble verge]

how

lolle

[winged sun]

he died

to duo boss

cuz

the lines

didnt show up to his fucking screen

i cba man

[humble verge]

[winged sun]

legit the most cringe bug of all time

he died

twice

to it

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-cat-ghoul-gif-15685393113271845735

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[humble verge]

@winged sun i played rook17 with hybrid

[winged sun]

man this was so depressing

[humble verge]

OMEGABAD damage

on last boss

[winged sun]

im so sad

like

[humble verge]

look at this

[winged sun]

20 floodgate would've been key of the century

legit the pinnacle of that key

impossible to time 21

[humble verge]

surely i will learn your build and surely i will push

[winged sun]

legit impossible

[humble verge]

im surprised the chinese havent timed 21 on live yet

[winged sun]

they cant time it on 21

flood

i dont think that shit is possible at all

until next week with corruption maybe

we did very well on this flood but unlucky

[humble verge]

oh so it is next week

[winged sun]

yea, idk if 21 will even be possible with corruption even

maybe not

[humble verge]

all bis avoidance, they managed to do it in MDI but

i assume they tried more than once to do it

didnt watch all of it

[winged sun]

in mdi its free

try doing it live with 1 attempt

[runic hinge]

You’ll get em next time champ

[winged sun]

bro

like

u have no idea how annoying it is to lose mark on the biggest pull of the dungeon

and lose automatically 30 seconds on key timer

cuz of that shit

[humble verge]

wait

how did you lose mark

[winged sun]

it fucking disappeared bro i cba

[humble verge]

RIP

[winged sun]

like

it disappeared

before i even sent deathmark

[humble verge]

its insane how much dps loss losing mark is

[winged sun]

i had to send

a naked deathmark

i cba

[swift bluff]

You time that if you’re outlaw

Assassin is dead

[humble verge]

[winged sun]

you'll deplete on bigmomma on 20

with outlaw

xd

[humble verge]

im wondering

how do you do big momma with your build

like a standard 5 pack rota

[winged sun]

its way stronger than any build on big momma

strongest spec in the game in floodgate by a mile

its not even close

[humble verge]

do you send KB, or save both for the ramp

🤨

[unkempt vine]

!upgrade

[winged sun]

cds on cd

like

[humble verge]

oke

[winged sun]

can they fucking fix deathstalker man

[thorn thorn]

Im surprised this shit is still happening

[winged sun]

this is worse than dying on outlaw with AR and 5 buffs

[humble verge]

ome

[winged sun]

because u legit do 0 dps forever

[thorn thorn]

I remember months ago Whispyr made a pin about it happening

[swift bluff]

So I’m backtracking but can’t see what you’re talking about

[humble verge]

man

my guildie was surprised of my assa damage

since he said like early in the tier

"rog and pal dont work well together"

well it really dont cause i dont have the util dk/boomie have

damage wise we are up there :3

[thorn thorn]

#assassination message

[spice spire]

Did you send a dn envenom on an add?

[thorn thorn]

Long while ago actually

A whole 7 months 💀

[spice spire]

That’s genuinely the only thing I can think of outside of Xdddddddddd deathstalker

[humble verge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[burnt star]

u mean; can they fkn delete that shit.. even on raid fight..

[thorn thorn]

You dont like the core mechanic of your hero talent just vanishing randomly???

[royal lantern]

eh, its very very rare, but sometimes it just goes away/doesnt get re-applied

[spice spire]

I mean yeah sometimes

[humble verge]

just play fatebound

[royal lantern]

like, had it happen 1-2x this raidtier aswell

[spice spire]

But several bosses have a mechanic that eats it because of multiple bosses/adds

[royal lantern]

very rare, and really fucking bad when it happens

[spice spire]

Like the first boss of top

[royal lantern]

3rd boss mechagon flowers

:3

[spice spire]

Yep

Same shit

Making sure it wasn’t that situation and not just an “ope, deathstalker” moment

[royal lantern]

i mean, its morenthen a core Part

it IS the hero tree

without mark, you have no hero talents at all active

[burnt star]

ur a lvl 70

with lvl 80 gear

[thorn thorn]

Very cool hero talent btw

Ty blizzard 10/10

[balmy condor]

that thing you linked is the bug coming back in the first place

it was bugged before that as well

deathstalker mark has been disappearing since deathstalker got added to alpha

[keen spruce]

[thorn thorn]

Ye I know

That was just the first thing I found

Incredible hero talent design

Ty blizzard

[burnt star]

try to reapply it on mugzee

[thorn thorn]

No ty

[humble verge]

wrong server

sorry

[burnt star]

should at the very least be changed to "when u get in stealth" your next mutilate will apply ds mark..

shouldnt be tied to ambush FROM stealth

[dense cove]

Are people replacing circlet ring now for a 681 crafted?

[runic hinge]

They can

If it sims better

[nova kelp]

Not i

[dense cove]

I’m showing better sims for single target by replacing it, but worse in AoE.

[humble verge]

waiting for jastor

[thorn thorn]

You gonna be looking for Waldo

[humble verge]

idk dawg, killing him this week

[thorn thorn]

[humble verge]

yeah ok blud

show me you

🤨

my average weeklies

[thorn thorn]

Im the real winner here

I dont play at all this season

[gentle belfry]

If Im blasting gear from 0, Im crafting 2x 675daggers or am I doing 1x of that one with the extra effect?

[coral ibex]

dont craft an offhand

[gentle belfry]

ahh okay

[coral ibex]

its the worst slot to invest in

[buoyant herald]

but mutilate both daggers

[gentle belfry]

Always had low weight your right - tyty. What embellishments are prio for M+?

[buoyant herald]

(jks)

[humble verge]

craft offhand

and get rik dagger first kill

[gentle belfry]

gear rn for ref

[thorn thorn]

Craft mainhand and 1 ring me thinks

[buoyant herald]

craft MH, do hallowfall event for OH

[thorn thorn]

Other ring can be cycrlet

[gentle belfry]

what embellishments for M+?

[gentle belfry]

and hero gally ring with coins ye?

[buoyant herald]

if you spam the hallowfall dailies you'll fill out those slots with 623+ vet gear real fast too

[thorn thorn]

Probably jastors, depends on what the sims tell you to get

[gentle belfry]

ahh okay ty

[thorn thorn]

Or whatever ring it tells you to get

[gentle belfry]

valid ty

[thorn thorn]

603 jewelry you wanna change pretty quickly tho

Cuz a decent amount of secondaries and stamina are in rings, you dont want those as your weak slots

[gentle belfry]

truth. so jastors/cyrce first then?

[buoyant herald]

to be fair you need to get into a normal raid at least and kill 4 bosses which might be hard for a freshie unless you have mates

[thorn thorn]

Mayhaps, sim it

[gentle belfry]

Got connects gonna hold vendor tokens until I kill h gally

[vapid gorge]

Is CB not a bleed build dungeon at +14?

Or should i just be running hybrid on all +14 or higher keys

[buoyant herald]

!bleed

[prisma monolith]

Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:

1. If you have to ask, you should play bleed
2. If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed

Some general concepts as to why people play different things:

• Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
• Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
• Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
• Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.

[spice surge]

Could probably update that to be 18s or 19s now after the turbo boost tbh.

For the most part the overalls look very similar regardless of what build you play (when looking at top logs)

Its more a case of what kind of damage you want, it needs to be kinda high for bleed to start losing since demise does a lot of heavy lifting in lower keys

Just stops being insane once things live longer

[gentle belfry]

So embellish mh > bracers/gloves for M+ yeah?

[vapid gorge]

Yeah I just failed a +14 CB and it was because my damage was too low (3.1m overall)

we overtimed by 30 secs so it was close which really sucks

[balmy condor]

whats your ilvl

[vapid gorge]

673

[buoyant herald]

if a +14CB goes ok, you should be at or above 4m overall really

[spice surge]

Craft a weapon to get your mainhand ilvl up yes, but overall embellishments are very inconsequential and weak so it doesnt particularly matter

[balmy condor]

yeh idk I'm 674 and was doing like close to 5m

I don't think it's a build issue tbh

[gentle belfry]

but still want to craft those anyway if I have the sparks and crests right? hero track ones

[vapid gorge]

yeah probably skill. sudden demise was 12% of my dmg so it seems like I was spreading correctly. Should it be higher?

[balmy condor]

in a 14? probably lower

12% is an insane amount for a key above like 10

[spice surge]

Demise percentage is not an indicator of how well you played

[balmy condor]

yeh that too

[vapid gorge]

spatter was only 5.3%

so maybe a little less time spreading bleeds and more env?

[buoyant herald]

not hitting CT enough?

[vapid gorge]

CT was top at 21.6%

[spice surge]

Hard to say without logs, but probably not keeping your mark up enough, not keeping spatter up all the time and/or holding onto your cds for far too long

[vapid gorge]

yeah i do feel like i hold mark too much. Thanks all for the input

ill keep trying lol

[balmy condor]

yeh probably just not enough spatter