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idk i heard like ww monk etc idk
i just dont know the other classes very well
to see what an imba comp would be with rogue
play druid tank
Fire literally a non caster

never seen a mage that pumps outside of youtube
yeah it barely castsits just 3 buttons and u FF=>pyro or FS=>pyro
like cmon this is boring
So i can kiss you on the forehead and can say good night

fredo espresso sketo typa class 💀
Foreskin?
fredo cappucino metiro me kanela 😛
No mythic kills so I’m ineligible for jastor and house of cards. Timed 12s in m+. I’m looking mostly for best performance in m+.
Gesundheit
ill bratwurst u babe :3
WO MEINE BRATWURST
2 tries ML both tanks died to tank buster 1st boss (both tanks were different)
Hast du noch peps da? Keine mehr?
2 Noch?
They indeed are different if they died
then signet/seaforium
Fwiw big momma hits like a truck. And you already have to passively cycle defensives. It also depends on what tank
it wasnt big momma it was the bombs boss
But even in like a 12 that domes me for 60% without a defensive

That boss literally does nothing to the tank
idk how they died on it

Idk I swear I have seen more tanks fall over randomly this tier than ever before
That’s because tanks actually have to do shit now
That's why I have to cuck Mr Ronkley into tanking my keys
Like first boss on priory
both were DH
I’m praying to god
Nvm they’re dumb got it
Oh he is yapping to god perma on that boss on warrior
You know its tight when he gasps
You run out of defensives at a certain point
Yeee
And then you just pray your healer has an external
Then by next you have wall again and can cycle back
But that boss is my 9/11 four eels
Then I try to do the next pull forget all defensives are exhausted and wipe

correction
it makes you lose your mind because you get the last charge and somehow there are still 4 bombs up that are spread everywhere
If you can hit 2 ur chuckling
REAL
use ranged ability to pull the 3rd pack->"wait a sec, it still says 23sec"
take aderal
btw quake, if you wanna know tank fun
wanna know what happens when the +10 pug in floodgates kills the small guy on the 2nd boss
while the big guy is at 70%

70%? LOL
You just get tank bustered over and over again
I wish i was the 2 tolls
the tankbusters speed up, at some point he does them every 0,5 sec 
Which as a warrior isn’t a huge deal
It’s not great
But I’ve had a 50% bront

had incarnation running, aka frenzied regen. no cd/cost
so i was spamming frenzied regen every gcd to stay alive

Gooning hard for you
I’ve enjoyed tanking this season. There’s a few skill checks and I’ve failed most but 
I think I wouldve really enjoyed it aswell, sadly no time for an alt
Bdk in shambles
I only fear one man exactly twice
Also first cinderbrew pull
Every time I am below 30% on ignore pain my weak aura auto opens up a feed of Val’s instagram and the only way to make it go away is to keep pressing IP
I gotta ignore it one way or another
You dont use execute as Prot warrior outside of raid dont you?
warrior discord or what
Idk I just hear cries of "demolish" in Irish during my keys
You 100% execute
really
i was lied to
But it’s definitely a thing you do
i sometime did, when having spare rage
But prot warrior is so chill
Blood DK is like a struggle
and DH is also chillin
Healer Problem
I wish I trusted dps enough to go right
But
There’s also a very cringe overlap with the mage
Never trust DPS
But the mage makes that fight a joke
Buddy I’m just dps #4
!poison
Oooo I finally feel like I am doing it. kinda understanding class well enough 80% average parse in heroic. Still doing meh on fights with a lot of adds but feels good. 1 more 13 and I’m 3k. Thanks for all the help this season with new class fam.

!fuu
I pugged a mage for a rat 10 and I beat them in dps when we were the same ilvl
Fun Fact, it was a BM hunter and a Fury warrior with 665
that were behind me
in a Floodgate 10
Chungus pumps tho fwiw
Love Chungus
Tank for Dozdruid and I'll iron bark on CD for you uwu
nah I'm not in the prio list for my guild
we're also extending lockout so not reclearing OAB
well, if you are going ti kill oab soon then you might think about holding dinar
Oh if you csn buy myth hoc
sims 2k dps more then myth priory
then go myth hoc
guaranteed mastery too, dont have to think about seaforium/pot fucking your signet
yeah truee that is big
I also expect other signet users will be moving to other trinkets with dinars
although I actually have no idea how impactful that part of the effect is
I don't even have a mythic signet it's only hc
so looks like an easy first dinar choice
you know whats weird
guardian almost never uses Maul outside of raids
which is like
imagine assa without using envenom lol
Assa without Envenom is just Ass
tbf, looking at guardians spec tree makes you depressed
lmao
those poor bears should be at blizz hq throwing shit at the wall
Just hit Starfire on repeat
Become the laserbear
"yeha, that 1 hero tree needs Lunar Beam"->Lunar beam is a fucking capstone behind multiple mediocre talents

30% difference bettwen Elunes Chosen and Druid of the Claw in raids btw
I tried bear on my feral for some rat keys, moonfire was my top damage which was wild
i mean ye, if youu play elunes chosen it is, cus everything there buffs moonfire
and it spreads by itself etc....
its kinda the point, its just incredible how ass lunar beams posioning is in the spec tree for a talent that is literally a hard requirment for he entire hero tree
Cold blood 
cold blood positoning is not even that bad, the problem is CB itself
like, it has good talents in front of it
Yeah just feels bad that such a mid feeling talent is mandatory
you need that to make elunes chosen work in the first place
like, cooldblood for fatebound is atleast a "choice" (just that the other option sucks)
lunar beam is literally a hard requirment cus the entire tree is based around lunar beam and buffing moonfire lol
its sooooo fucking weird lol
that entire tree is such a trainwreck
I feel for you, furry rogue
After the Wildfire gated by 3 bad points
Pulverize/Raze not really any options
Tooth and Claw cant be picked in m+
man it sucks lol
and i didnt even bring up how janky the tierset and druid of the claw is btw

i get tilted whenever I see assa tier set, it's like that for 90% of specs I assume
I'm simming, looking at upgrades with this new ilevel bump. it feels like assassination scaling is not too great this tier. Is this accurate, or are all the classes just not scaling that much?
Don't mention the scaling word we're still recovering from earlier
Also, sin sims lower it just be that way
just go dracthyr for more scales lmao even 
Shit he's right
I noticed this too. I sim higher as outlaw on single target, even in my assassination gear, just swapping out the weapon. Is there a bug? or APL is a little off?

or just some sim artifact?
Part of it is the sim for sin being a bit more realistic. From what I've heard some of the other Sims add in some inhuman optimisations which wouldn't be feasible in actual play
Not sure if that's the whole reason but that's part of it
yeah, on the dummy, my outlaw dps isn't as good as assassination
Be careful with sin damage on the dummy, cos sometimes the dummies put us in perma execute range
This could be the case as well
Outlaw always sims higher
And sims are no indicator for actual performance
Demo could sim 5m higher and I wouldnt touch that spec

Oh I love demo, it just sims so much higher than would ever be possible in a realistic scenario
Demo locks aren't real it's just 4 imps in a trenchcoat
Don't believe the lies
Sims should only be compared in the same spec for what gear to equip and not to compare specs or even classes.
I'm only considering outlaw because assassination feels a little slow in raid fights. I feel energy starved any time there are no adds. But outlaw is a vers spec, and they don't usually scale that well, so I'm concerned that they look reasonably close now, but after the ilevel bump, outlaw is going to fall behind.
so the thing is
the guardian 2set is "when you take dmg, you can get your big deff cd for 4seconds"
the 4set is "when you got that proc, your next 9 abilitys trigger a random other druid ability at 125% strenght"
aka you sometimes get a deff proc, and when that happens you do some passive bonus dmg
now comes the "funny" part
if you play druid of the cringe, you must play fluid form (you instantly shapeshift when using cat/moonkin/guardian abilitys into their forms instead of having to manualy shift) because that shity hero tree has you shifting bettwen bear and cat sometimes
BUT when you play fluid form, sometimes the 4set effect can just turn you into cat form when it triggers a feral ability
Scaling is a meme

and like, randomly turning into cat form while actively tanking is.....lets say NOT great

who doesn't like being a cat
A person tanking a raid boss
I have a solution
Cos that ain't a cat it's a flat
like, yeha you want to swap as druid of the claw sometimes
but like
controlled
when it works
not randomly

!builds
Bleed vs Hybrid vs Cleave/FI builds
Broad rules and Section in Guide:
- If you have to ask, you should play bleed
- If you're not doing +17's or higher (or rookery), you should play bleed
Some general concepts as to why people play different things:
- Ease of play: Bleed build is simply the easiest to play due to subterfuge/no kingsbane/less need for giant prio targets
- Boss damage: The cleave/zeross build is mainly for boss damage. Assa single target in keys is pretty bad, and the bosses would not be possible otherwise
- Specific Dungeons: Rookery as an example is very boss-heavy, especially the last boss, making bleed less ideal.
- Where the damage is: Bleed spreads out its damage and does great overall due to sudden demise and powerful 3-8 target damage. Hybrid is competitve but doesn't pull ahead until bigger AoE. Cleave is for single target damage and insanely large aoe because of how much caustic and crimson tempest carry aoe damage.
wanna feel me?
ye
@midnight mist im almost there
where
your work
okok
Real
real
What a goofball
Me rn cause Im getting the kebab
i see
i swear to god, hope he hits the ground real hard
fuck you man dont threaten the french femboy
he is small fragile and hawt
is bfa enchants today?
Next week
today is +6 ilvl and dinars
and uncapped crests
This week I pray I have enough valorstones
Nope lmao
u will not
its why i hate valorstone, either u sre capped and cant spend, or u need upgrades and cant get them fast enough
but if ur farming crests you will also get valorstones no?
actually it might be ok
So, we pray
valorstones are horrid on fresh alts when world activities give crests but no stones
once you start raiding/doing dungeons they stop existsing
But yeah I have enough lower crests to log in on Wednesday and get 413 gilded 
so 1500 on druid, since u lose 25% of them when giving them to your main
how many crests will i need to fully upgrade my gear
assuming its 678 ye
main also
worth doing the crafts first since they don't get a discount, will save you a few crests probably
Oh then i will need a lot less 😄
That's my plan, I'm 674, have two crafteds, so I upgrade them and hopefully get 675
Or close enough to it
Then the rest I just slam and watch as the valorstone balance rapidly dwindles
fuck valorstones
is achievement 675 ilvl avg, or 675 on every slot?
such a ussules currency
Average
It was every slot last season so I ain't sure why they swapped it this season
But, I'll take it
rng purposes i guess
i need a mythic chest at some point lmao
heroic chest holding me back so hard for weeks now
Damn, I'm just about 5 ilvls off
Hoping for a good piece in Vault then
!up
Does this need to be updated?
And could I still do the full set of 12s before I buy something?
So I could hammer out 12s this week and then buy something? There wasn't a time restraint?
yes
Of course there's no time restraint lmao
you will still have to complete 4 keys
to do the chip quest
after reset
prob dont have to be 12's if you already have them timed tho
Pretty sure you can just do LFR for the quest if you want
I meant like you had to have done the 12s prior to reset today
I don't think even Blizzard would be that malicious
See general I had a similar question, I think it's same day if you complete the requirements
You think what's same day
Yeah, that was my follow up
I only have 10s across the board, was wondering if I could hammer out all 12s and then buy a Myth track item in the same week
Yes
You can get the chips no matter what keys or raid you've done, I'm pretty sure
NA up
You just do the weekly and get the chips
and then if you do your 12s after it, the M+ Myth track items unlock
I meant qualifying to buy Myth track

Hoooly
need resilient for m+ myth, need to corresponding mythic boss killed to get myth from raid
BIS cloak Pog?????
I know brotherman
belt is bis tho, if you have socket on it
also those boots arent that bad
and more mastery
You still use Chips to buy below Myth track items so dunno what we're replying to
im using them myself
How do people end up with that much crit
Mine's like 7k behind my Mastery, I think
Crit comes from Crit gear?
nah
waow
I'mma just snag a House of Cards, 'cause it's my best upgrade at the mo
and hope we kill Gally in 3 weeks' time

yup another socket
but then i got signet myth :)

I've got Myth track Signet on two alts
because it's always the main
that wants it the most
that doesn't get the chase item

I have not played my warrior at all this season, kinda just raid logging cause there are so many games to play
poopoo
Wtf radiant power!!!
ahhh
are we even able to get horrific vision head enchants yet
No
soon...
@balmy condor where vault
Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:
- For starters, "Chain pulls" are NOT when the tank pulls a new pack with 1% hp remaining on the previous mobs. That is called "Bad Tanking", and it sucks for everyone in your party.
- Correct Chain pulls usually happen while the previous pack is still alive and not dangerous. This increases uptime on more targets, which is the biggest increase in DPS for the entire party. This is also the biggest reason why you see high key level players doing so much damage.
- Garrote is roughly 7-9% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
- Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
- Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon, but does allow for holding vanish for large chain pulls which improves the quality of each vanish
- You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.
what keys are considered as high
whats ur highest key @humble verge
if ure playing bleed
16 rook
not bothered to push keys this season

got invited on a whim by friend
guys, need suggestions: heroic house of cards, or mythic tier set?
Myth tier

myth
cool, thank you!
good point, will try to run some sims
when do the horrific visions come out?
Is circlet still bis?
idk, someone said not this week so onto the next
but remember tier set you get it 1 time and stays ,trinkets especially hero can be replaced with a mythic priory for example
Sim yourself
raidlead said to hold off on spending dinars ... can anythone think of a reason NOT to monke buy jastor/house of cards?
think of serotonin once u upgrade tho
Myth track jastor is a insta buy probably
buddy im not that guy we're 2/8m
are you doing mythic/are you doing a heroic clear first/is a mythic kill for gally or OaB nearby
prolly delete your char

and do you have mythic priory, cus then you dont need HoC
the reason to not monke buy is if ur gonna kill it in ur lockout this week and might get it
yes myth signet, haven't simmed hoc vs jastor. I didn't know HoC + Signet bad?
I thought
optimal raid trink: seaforium pacemaker + hoc
optimal dung trink: pacemaker + signet
!trinket
bis belt but i need tier helm for last myth track tier piece. pain
U would not replace myth signet with heroic house of cards
replace hero seafor with hero hoc?
wont next special item be a belt?
No
There are no BiS stuff basically
You just dont use hoc
it all depends on your gear ._.
Because bis only applies to trinkets AND special items
(non independent thinker q)
archon doesn't know anything
Signet and HoC are the same trinkets
anything else is just SIM
You use 1 or ther other
take the socket

Yo guys today I was thinking of doing triple rogue key. Im not outlaw anymore so going to mix specs now. Last tuesday i did a triple outlaw key. Tonight since im still learning sin, i would like to get another sin to compare myself with. Ive asked for one outlaw in their channel. Now I'm asking for one sin rogue to come as well. Tonight at 830pm PST. (NA region)
Outlaw mods let me do it
Who
Its an event
because bis lsits and archon are both not good for gearing and everyone that knows their stuff says that 24/7
yea well i am stupid and dont know my shit so gotta start somewhere @royal lantern (im smart to admit im dumb)
archon 
You also can’t compare sin as easily because one rogue ends up getting the lions share of SD damage
So it’s always going to be skewed
i dont like wowhead ui 
wowhead guide to see your good trinkets, and then sim
HoC was never the ABSOLUTE GIGA BEST MUST HAVE for assa, its literally equal with priory trinket on same ilvl since day1 
if you have heroic priory, you dont need heroic HoC, if you have Mythic Priory you dont need mythic HoC
Dinars actually GIGA useless for my rogue
Anyone else unable to pick up the dinar quest?
can only use 1 when we get gally down, thats it lol
Where is the quest?
Not doing mythic and that would be the only one I’d use too
Already have both myth trinkets I want
I’m just missing rando pieces
For us.. dinar is probly. Jastor/hoc/pacemaker
You guys need to stop calling it a dinar. It's a new nerfed item. Dinars are dead with shadowlands.
U can purchase hoc myth only if you killed bandit mm right ?
pvp toons pay off ig
Do u play all day everyday damn
sure you're saying this but if wowhead + archon says bis why are u smarter than them/supposedly "know ur shit"? I'm simming it (in line)
so can i use this twice or only once
Happy Turbo boost, has anyone simmed w/ the updated +2 tracks if Circlet is worth replacing? I tried simming replacing with 8/8 heroic jastor even and it seemed like an increase but don't know how accurate that is.
🤷
The guy writing the wowhead guide has said it himself here probably 1 billion times
They have to include BiS lists in wowhead guides for google search engine optimization
i haven't seen that before so thx for clarity, ok done going back n forth im wrong its known info thx
is the delve belt out
dont think so
Do you have every single other piece of item on the BIS list too?
i see bis, i equip i turn off considering any other item for that slot - bad way to think im noticing now
cus i repeat what the wowhead writer himself says 30x a day here

im not saying im a smart guy, im dumber then a rock
but i can somewhat remember the information represented here
mythic pacemaker showed up on time to twin it out with the mythic signet im boutta yoink with my dinar
gz
im hype af trinkets no longer in poverty tier
do keys give more crests now?
u would get them anyway
or same amount
you gotta take azerokks here
rest is trash
I am happy people will do 50% more damage now that they can upgrade their trinkets from Hero track to Myth track

any day of the week
50%? you mean 280% minimum
i dont even wanna open my vault
heroic chest
i know im going to be disappointed
every reset i open DH first where i get the good stuff
maybe i should open rogue this time first

nvm im gooning

Waiting for raidbots to be updated
ping whispyr and tell him to update
@balmy condor update
Make sure to keep pinging him until he replies
Nice tmog
Like me, you're missing Tabard of the Void
he can borrow mine
Nice glad tabards, for real
i only bought 2 containers and got both
yellow and white and blue were amazon prime rewards
thats crazy
hoc + signet kinda blows balls and sim proves it (top gear for me at least is jastor)
😄 ty i have more
30 = boomer?
unc status
Yes, they are the same trinket so you use one of them + a passive
You don't need to sim to prove it
Whats make ilvl for myth now?
684
ty
Will become a dad soon, not an unc
i needed to sim it to satisfy my monke brain
30?
older then me = boomer
Fair, are you like 25-27?
27 
fucking vintage u are
25
\ez\
24 ez\
zoomer
holy fuck discord encoding lifehack if u want to use emote add '' after w emote kekw
:Clappers: \Clappers
nvm im tism
thats honestly poggers
sike i’m 23
9 here
a/s/l?
32/yes/your mom

Old
Stop criticizing your mom's tastes
Also old
she prefers my wizened staff
Is there anywhere that discusses the best dinar's pick?

Yeh
There's a great article right here: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/droptimizer
lol
There's a section for it in the Assa rogue best gear article on Wowhead though
Myth Jastor if Gally selected*
@solar wyvern https://www.twitch.tv/zerossxdd/clip/CoyAdventurousRhinocerosCopyThis-T91L41f6V61CQfB7
ty
^ the boss
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
!macro
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
Old
So r u king
Can anyone confirm for me the req to do the chips quest and get a heroic item. Do we have to do anything specific to get a specific item?
is it not 4 raid bosses or 4 m+
Guys, like Assa, what item should I spend the new currency on??
this is wowhead suggestion
ty
Anyone know what spells atrophic poison works for on Sprocket? Feels like it's mostly environmental damage
Just because the boss isnt casting it doesnt mean its environmental damage
You pretty much have to go into logs and look
Right, my question is has anyone done that research already and made it available
Yeah, can you kill the bosses for the chips on LFR?
simming raid spec full upgrade myth daggers
why would - haste+vers > vers + mastery
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
- Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
because stats don't matter basically
The raid leader discord has iirc, but also all this
And you're probably lacking haste and vers as uber said
Aka the vast majority of it
So for us no myth raid Andy’s, we go signet and pacemaker at myth track if we have done the keys?
sounds logical
Wanted that jastors, I’ll aim but have a myth ring already so I’m thinking I don’t replace that, and instead will replace my hero pacemaker and hero Cards
even if he beat u in overall id still say sin is better
cuz of the damage profile
also not biased

Stop zeross before you get us nerfed

are these upgrades from turbo boost permanent?
rsham op wtf
yes
is boomy bad or why is he doing so shit
rsham broken! nerf
ASSA M+ Which one do you think is better?
678 Signet of the Priory vs 678 House of Cards
SIM!
????
Well no, you just hold it for 2 min
^
you macro it to dm
hes not doing shit
lol
hes just starsurging 24/7
because boomkin with mage comps he starfalls
with me i solo adds on ipa and he doesnt aoe half the start area of cinderbrew
so he basically never starfalls
Boomy players literally filling their diapers with shit if they’re not omega giga top dps in keys
aha so basically assa good if one of the dps plays support role
well
is like arcane but way more aoe
we have same/better funnel
we only have worse funnel on gorechop
and
we have the same st dps
issue is we dont have lust or utility and we're squishy as hell
question if we have mythic track on all item slots, do we keep embellend on the offhand
just realised you cant pick a roulette wheel form the dinar
I’m hearing some people say you can do the chip quest on LFR but the quest text says normal/hc/myth. Someone in my guild said he got credit from LFR lol
It was advertised as any difficulty lol
Might be a typo error
does anyone know if they have liftet the crest cap in delves?
You can confirm you can do the chips quest in LFR?
You think if I still haven't managed to get a myth wep at this point in the season I hang my head in shame and craft a 2nd dagger at 681 or keep coping?
Is today the day we finally move on from the Circlet?
circlet is like a 700 ilvl ring isnt it?
Yes. Both me and friend did it
hes thinking in terms of value
since most people will be pretty much still using it until next tier
maybe.
Raidbots is sim'ing higher now without. But could just be wrong (for single target atleast).
Ask @lyric gate
Finally got my HOC yay. Even though it's 1.5 min CD we just hold and send with Deathmark yeah?
Ya
Looks like quicksim holds for deathmark
Has it been 24 hours
i was nice earlier
Fair
gave some legit answers
ðŸ˜
it's a question 🙂 there's always weird tech who knows dude
just play sub amirite, more value from hoc
Playoutlaw.. u dont need hoc
keep giving them 
i think priory is anyway better
if you dont have 1 ms and 0 input lag
you wont get that full 15 sec in your deathmark
from hoc
wat r u guys buying with your dinars? i think ima just send it on the jastor diamond
Nothing
I am eu
so do we get another 3 next week? or how does that work
ill get cloak from locken
You get 1 each week now
ooo
fk
hmmm
i lowkey might pick jastor, just so i dont have to go into the raid anymore
are the corrupted visons live aswell ?
next week
ah okay ty :3
fun fact i got heroic jastor week 3 on my rogue but it simmed worse then my current rings on sublety so i gave it to a friend warrior, and now im waiting 6 weeks for it on assa
but i doubt its better then 681 and 684 ring
I'm trying to better understand caustic spatter for higher parse on m rik
so more dmg caustic by hitting more enemies with it, if my character is yellow triangle is and red circle r bombs this is optimal?
!richard
So if everyone is going to take Jastor, do we go the big brain play of taking something else and winning the roll when no one needs it off Gally...
churki still actively going on 
https://www.wowhead.com/news/best-puzzling-cartel-chip-purchases-for-all-classes-in-the-war-within-season-2-376846?utm_source=discord-webhook here's a fool proof guide you can use for dinars without having to sim your char or think about anything.
within margin of error so do whatever feels good i guess
why are most top parses in high m+ bleed builds
Also dumb that it removed my blasphemite...
its widely agreed on best build m+ rn, why wouldnt best build be highest parse?
Bleed build?
as if it will ever drop
is one of you guys at the dinar vendor
and can check if the mage staff is actually in

Neural Synapse Enhancer
The what
Fairly sure its not
!up
They said weapons werent going to be on it didnt they
I mean wowhead articles are just clickbait
u wanna link the logs 🙈
don't defame my diablo 4 barbarian writer
Should I just macro house of cards to death mark?
i think if the 1 mob didnt bug out for 1 min
i would've ended way higher
100% parse vs 10 other rogue clears on an 18 lmfao
you're still insane
You can run the sim
r2 is pi and subterfuge build
but 675 crafted ring was a 14k loss over cyrce
so likely close now if you have another 684 ring?
my guy
this rogue
has crazy gear
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
678 cloak from sprocket
678 signet

zeross are you running bleed build in high keys?
i would if i wanted to deplete the key
id check ur sim on crafted dagger mainhand w ascendance, I tried it a bit ago w 2 myth daggers vs craft + myth and craft+myth simmed higher
dude idk what ur saying but i was using raid gear kinda
yea
idk this build is insanely undersimming it feels like
i cba work on apl abit atm busy with keys and sleep in downtime
or its sims thing?
without any context no one is gonna be able to tell ya
the context is
link the sim
understanding caustic pissing me off can I get some help clarifying (raid specifically) (ad dies in 20sec)
in order to proc caustic - need mutilate + (deadly OR rupture)
to proc caustic as fast as possible - any rupture on ad + mutilate to 5+cp good
when darkest night available -> darkestnight > caustic?
what ad threshold is it -> caustic > darkestnight?

is bleed build supposed to do rly low st? feels like i dont have any energy at all
u get energy + agi from having bleeds on ads, if ur starving from energy in aoe youre probably doing something wrong
in single target yea we starving for energy
i meant st 🙂
Bleed does like 1.7 st?
Which i guess is not great in full gear but wcyd.
Something has to give to casually do like 4m with no cds on small packs
Question about the Dinar
Is it only "kill that raid boss on that difficulty" to gain access to their items on the vendor or do I need to full clear that difficulty?
Like say I want a Heroic HoC; would I just need to kill Bandit on Heroic or do I also need AotC?
Tooltip implies you just need to kill the specific boss
can some1 tell me if im wrong on fastest way to caustic
is there anything simpler than raid bots to compare items?
If an add dies fast its not worth swapping to it.
You need rupture going on it+hit it with either ambush or mut to apply caustic debuff.
so gally bomb trash heroic, they die in like 25sec. worth or not worth swapping?
Anybody knows how this dinar System works? I mean it I Buy Chester Diamond and I dont have myth. kill obvs. Its hc but if I Kill it do I Need to buy it again?
you just hit them with caustic
need to buy again then
Your bomb trash lives 25sec? Mine lives like 5
So ill just pass in this stupid System Unbill its Dead wo blizzard
on Patchwerk 5 targets 1 minutes do we check any RAID BUFFS ?
Rik isn’t big enough
do you mean: his range to hit is too small to be cleaved by 2? (yea that makes sense) essentially what I'm getting from picture though is you always want to be between caustic target and boss so that maybe you can get caustic on it - is that correct blanket thought to follow?
No
His hitbox isn’t big enough for where you stand to matter
It never gets to the second check
in raid, since i dont vanish for dps, are there any mechanics that can be vanished?
No
thx
so just to rlly make sure I get it - attacking red fill white line w caustic **will caustic **to get green line red fill
if i already have myth azerokk heart should i get seaphorium or signet myth?
Idk, how far apart are those two adds in your hypothetical
azerokk kind of beans
Yes, azerokk is mid as hell
ikr but as i can only take 1 trinket for now
hero signet
!FUU
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
i assume blue border around rogue icon is 12m caustic range
topright ad is <12m from my char and bottomright ad is <12m from my char
so wherever my character is located is where conditional check of unit around my char should get affected by caustic
Probably pacemaker
No
It doesn’t check from your character
It checks from the add
The character check is only the secondary check
fuck that makes so much more sense it was rlly bothering me
2nd range check you mentioned in your writeup is char position check
Yes
When are sims going to be updated for the extra ilvl?
They technically already are, you just need to add the items by hand
good to know ty
As to when raidbots will have a feature update so you don’t have to do that
No clue
Should ask raidbots support
Ok
thx, this helps me alot
Np
ty
2nd check is only done when range of boss is "large" so only one that matters to think about that in is gally
otherwise only rlly think about "is target going to maximize caustic hits"
ie - in pic mid is optimal over top/bottom
Yah but that would imply you’re target swapping to barrels
Which is already wrong
guild raid lead says if dont swap to barrels we wipe so i swap barrels ..
double dagger 
gz!
holy shit i never know sudden demise can finish 40m hp
hey guys do we replace circes with jastor or our other ring? cause my sims are telling me that if I switch to diamond over circes I lose alot of dmg in both aoe and ST
Sims might be right
Okay well I found your parse issue lmao
tell him we said no

681 ring and jastors sims over signet for me finally
only like 3k more though

me finally getting a mythic dagger after all of prog + reclears
not all
Not our ipsa
i would be upset but that's in the past baby
!up
only downside is now i can't blame the lack of dagger for my shit damage

i'll find something else, don't worry
bad kill timing, not enough pad, it's hot in my room
whispyr sent me feet pics and i was distracted
week 1 weapon
week 2 cinderbrew trinket
week 3 boots from rookery on my mage
my alt is broken idk whats wrong
it loots eveyrthing
Real
Everything else i have equipped is either crafted or from vault
tbh, you didnt deserve
all top rogue parses have 400k dps parse on pyro with 86% coming from caustic and I have 351 dps on pyro with 21% coming from caustic - time to limit test saying not swapping i will do same dps xd
(I assume they are probably positioning boss better on bombs)
I have a spare m rik dagger in my bags
am i forgetting something or CoS doesnt work with pyre on 2nd boss of Priory?
You cloak to remove stacks not preven
Yeah you literally never swap
But didn’t get dot
I mean rik parsing is a meme
The other 14% from those high logs is poison bomb 
It requires your ranged to actually hit far barrels
just proc
And less melee to cleave nearby ones
Just proc!!!!!!!!!


not my little guy











