#assassination
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if they ran it in a bad way, they cant complain about it lol
I had it separate bc at times it was worth using dance for IC instead of kb
But ye like 95% of the time you sent with kb
very rarely and even when it was worth, it was debateable
Say you wanted to dance before kb by like 4-5 globals
Macro didn’t let you do that
well it wouldnt prevent you pressing shadow dance would it
Ye, and that’s what I meant by separate usage
I still had kb + dance macro on another bind
Talking about past gameplay
I swear I’m going to be cooked for like a week if they remove dn
they better remove it
I think the cadence of having stronger finishers is good
the way that its mark binding and demands 7 could be looked at
Maybe they should bring back dance
outlaw and assa having an iconic sub ability seems weird
does this 'dance' work like the sub one?
just like arcane and fire mage having ice block is weird
yes, it was a 1min cd stealth window
Thats interesting
we had a comfier time getting access to ic
With snapshotting!
worked on everything
im happy with sin as it is, if I could get one request it would be to bake in iron wire / look at our defensives again
we're notably squishier than sub and OL
Think about all our leech!
😔
we had baked in IW?
Thats sounds hella overloaded
basically subterfuge split into improved garrote and iron wire
used to be 3 seconds
dam
it was powerful, the issue is now
it's a choice vs significant dps nodes
a feelsbad choice tbh
blizz themselves admitted long ago that they'd pit utility vs utility and dps vs dps when it came to mutually exclusive choices
putting a utility node vs dps doesn't sit right with that line of thinking
it's not like they're a choice node, it's choice in pathing
it mightaswell be a choice node
i think it's actually one of the better choices between dps and powerful utility
lol i won't disagree with you there
and this is the most meaningful of choices tbh
thats what i mean
like
weak or super niche utility ehhh who cares
dps nodes even for 0.1
%
issue is this is normally a trade off between sanguine blades or ma
etc
these aren't weak nodes in m+
its either MA or bonespike
sanguine blades isn't really an option
i think too strong
we used to drop it last season
for iw
that was with hybrid build before they started juicing bleeds
idk i think the whole "dps nodes vs utility nodes" convo is good to have but this example is like
one of the better utility options
I mean litterally buffing the bleed spells and sudden demise bleed% dmg
that increased SB strenth tho so last season more of a drop candidate than now
ye
it was never needed
the issue is
I still maintain for timing keys it matters more than dps
atleast for the majority of us
I cant imagine failing a 14 or 15 on a tiny bit of dps
its usually missed kicks or tank death etc
isnt that interesting tho
yeah but like...someone missing kicks isn't your fault for not taking IW
and the silence gathering mobs easily leads to a dps increase
just not neccesarily your own
nah, ma sucks
just crit
like the issue I think is that other specs dont have this
are you always gonna have a vanish charge to save the day?
every spec has its niche, or was supposed to (rip stunning secret)
OL still has perma sprint
most ethical sin rogue here
if it's pull-enabling then yeah sure it's a no brainer
oh also taking a utility node over dps when we're approaching tank damage levels of boss st
idk what to say
When you fail 2 PSFs by 10~ sec it really makes you think though 😂
gotta make up the damage somewhere
but like...you're not taking imp wound poison just in case IPA has an ooze hit him
but if your group is monkeys then it's big value
admittedly I've dropped iw this season too bc no one expects you to have it + I played bleed build from day 1
and it pays a lot more to take iw than hybrid
Im fairly sure it's the reverse
Really? People have started asking for it when I join keys now haha
that's true
I mean what does MA really do for bleed
do we have a mastery cap?
bro what?
compared to hybrid
compared to hybrid
ffs man
not sure that's the right way of thinking but
HYBRIDS DMG COMES FROM GUARANTEED CRIT ENV CRITTING
We do not
what
smh
caps out at 214.2% from gear 
when and why and how did you work this out
bc its guaranteed to crit
I have the number memorized
while more of bleed's dmg comes from non guaranteed crit sources
silly question
okay but you also have KB spattering during MA
fine ill jump into the simulator
bless your soul
i don't think the outcome of any of these sims is gonna make me consider taking IW for my next key
Guys, I've been thinking about the playstyle I should be doing on 3rd boss on myth, namely on riki rik and caustic splatter, no clue how should I operate with it and if I should position myself better or smth, do I need to send wow analyzer from a fight? Asking cause I perform poorly and I want to do better
the debate isnt to take or not take iw
!rik
Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)
- Not your problem.
- Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
- If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
- Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels: - Swap to Subtletly.
it's which build pays more to take it
maybe if i was playing with 3 priests in my group
idk what they're yapping about really I tuned it out but I assume it's just dick measuring about who's correct regarding some shit that doesn't matter
im just trying to get us back on track me you guys are out here going up the garden path like crazy
which build loses more dps to take iw, bleed or hybrid
So this fight is purely dependable on luck and pos of barrels?
hybrid
THERE WE GO
Do we still care about the envenom buff? Or was that only there because of last tier set?
you could hit that comment 50 times a day and be right 49 of them
@golden loom got the sim tc nerd to answer you
stop sharing my secrets
didnt he say exactly what I said?
no, don't need to track it
neat, time to delete the WA then
???????????????????????
aghahahaha
y'all some freaks for that
ngl this was special behaviour
yeah one of you were like "NUH UH HYBRID LOSES MORE" and the other "NUH UH BLEED LOSES LESS"

then what I proceed to say was
supporting that
ngl
I blame you at phrasing it like that, english second lang and all for me :^) (this is an excuse)
also reading back why are we talking about MA
its just one of the things that coulda been dropped or was last season anyway
you drop lightweight shiv or bone spike on bleed, not MA
I mean sure
dropping bonespike feels bad
you'd never drop ma though
ye
thing I don't get is why @golden loom was making arguments about ma helping kb and asking what it does for bleed
Unironically outlaw rogue does lots of barrel damage too
after saying bleed loses less
And you lose nothing single target for it
genuinely sent me
I full swapped targets
I paused to crash out, sec
respect
So I just never swap and pray for god of RNG to give barrels close to me?
you can rupture snipe them
but ye kinda
Thats how you do reverb
Still build bleed is better ?:)
just pray ur tank moves em
Mm hunter will be better than assa rogue on aoe or st ?
depends on a lot of factors
i was the only melee doing solo barrels as well
Pain.
most cursed thing i've read here all day
!wa
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we have better uncapped aoe, they have strong aoe around burst cds in trueshot andd volley while our aoe is more consistent generally
!richard
its not the end of the day yet
you need to know we're deffo top 2 worst melee at doing them along with unholy
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rtFmVXbymJ12VvqGRWb1wA @static glacier hybrid with IW lowest
I do know but whatever it takes to kill
bro don't you hit me with the !richard when i give a throwaway comment at the end of 5 mins of back and forth from others 😭
+294/296 so virtually identical
in gain
I suspect in st sims hybrid would gain more from ma while in a sustained aoe sim bleed might
dslice has restealths
MA is cranked
btw whats going on with ur weapons
why aint ur myth track dagger 6/6
cause other stuff was better to upgrade
the number of people who rip their 2 best trinkets from vault within a couple of weeks never ceases to amaze me
ALso, one more thing, is my position anyhow important for caustic splatter? Or it's just full aoe from boss area and i can just stand still
I had a 626 skardyns entire season 1 so I deserved this 
check the second pin
And how big it is?
explains it
i got priory week one from my single slot 😂
all downhill from there though tbh
Oh, thank you, I will read it immediatly
generally speaking it mainly matters where the enemy mob is, your position would only ever matter if ur vs an enemy with a massive hitbox (some raidbosses)
Wait, so it does matter, it says 12 yards circle from me as well?
Unless I am misunderstanding it
you are misunderstanding it
the first check is 12 yards from the boss
the second check is 12 yards from you, as long as it's also within the melee range of the boss
so for basically every regular boss, the second check is just inside of the first check already
it's only relevant on insanely large hitbox bosses where the adds are far away
like gallywix
rashanan
etc
bloodbound horror even
It's so confusing... But I think i get it?
you don't really need to understand the intricacies of it
just know that gigantic melee range = stand on adds
normal melee range = doesn't matter where you stand
hello my friends, can someone help me mby 😦 my DMG in M+ sucks hard on Bosses -.- and i dont get why.
what is the definition of "sucks hard on bosses"
sims*
solo like 1,4 and with some adds 2-3 mil 😄
sometimes i drop to 1 mil oder smt lkike this
i think sometimes i play my cd´s wron g
I got taunt every st boss by my brew master flaming my st 
tbh, spec is really slow at boss dmg, but I usually do around 1.6-1.8m on full st bosses, with bleed build, and I don't find a lot of specs really blasting boss dmg in m+, so it's not like you're super behind
And then on pack he can't Tod cuz demise 
can u guys tell me how u go into a boss fight rota wise? and how u use ur cd´s ?
i play like this
perfect
pretty much the same as that but without KB
almost like that is the guide
Totally biased
Btw did we just wait energy for sanguine blade on st over envenom? (with bleed build full st encounter)
no bias, just based
god I wish there was a guide for this (yes)
Eh sorry mby the only part I skipped then
ty tho 🫡
Dirty filthy skipper
Is there a certain amount of haste needed in st
more than 0, less than 20,000
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Signet of the Priory will require you have Mastery as your highest RATING (the actual number, not the %). Having Crit and Mastery close to one another will cause procs from Flask or Seaforium Pacemaker to cause your Signet to give you Crit. This is generally worse and will cause Signet to sim poorly.
- Compared to each other, Deathstalker wants more Mastery/Haste than Fatebound, and Fatebound wants more Crit than Deathstalker
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
@balmy condor Can I use Signet of the Priory instead of House of Cards?
of course
we love asking rogue daddy for permission 
is this also fine ?
Ty mate for the Help.
I now hate myself for missing the "ass daddy for consent" terminology but we'll get em next time I guess
bad rng
Witch Flask did u guys use for M+?
okay
how does that "stay above 50% for sanguine" play out in reality? Do you just stop generating cps until 200e to never drop below 150, never env when under 185? or do you just float at around 150, sometimes being below, mostly above and pool a little bit ?
sims do the float thing
being around 80%
they obviously slam energy out if it's a darkest night proc or during shiv
so it's more of a "just sit around until something important happens"
well go fuck yourself
no cap
can you ask them to put buttons to either the talent builder or to the bottom of the page to the talents viewevers
i swear i hate getting there
and not being able to see the talent pages
!
so bad !
i dont
I do once a year
And always get tilted at the same thing
Which is that thing
(other than like the fact there is 50 pages per spec but that is how it is)
anyway you can block me again i have nothing else of value to say
not that what i said was of much value
you want this?
ye something like that
i jsut wanna be able to see the talents quickly
wtihout manually importing them
I mean it is, just not the same tho
Ah that's you, I thought that was like a general wowhead thingy shared across everyone
it is
it's templated technically, we used to have a link
but that doesn't mess up SEO or anything so should be okay for me to just add
@balmy condor thank you. Floating is like build cp and wait, like the oldschool pooling? i have trouble imagining it without just standing still
yes
thanks again
Wait Zac is actually talking sense for once wtf 
yeah no
Let’s not go too far
nope
wtf why !
play what
uh
i have raid logged a bit
no i havent done any in a month or close to
gg
nah this was downright pleasant for once, u aight
i remembered why i hated m+ back in SL, ate all my time.
even with playing a lot less, it was too much
last season
reformed until outlaw gets another bugfix and then we'll go back to it

im glad i got to play m+ when assa was meta but fucking hated that assa was so god awful at st
felt like i was actually holding my group back
sure you were
okay zac, this work?
should already be up go ahead and refresh
also meta is playing fucking udk. i heard what the gameplay loop is in aoe
no fucking thanks
idk probably, I fixed a bunch of stuff all over the place over the last couple days
were you the adds spawn vs adds die guy
Doing Mythic Vexie prog tonight, any tips?

yeh that's fixed and I added another section
Don't die
remember to fan of knives on 3+ targets
or 4 if vv
I have fixed...... so many things man
you need to dodge the boss before it spawns
hardest part of the fight
Gonna have my guild start calling me adds spawn vs adds die guy
Boss is chill just don't be lazy and have your raid actually do oils/bikes and it's alright
Don't do what my group does on reclear, go full parse mode and wipe 3 times because only 1/3 of the team is actually trying to grab oils and send bikes into boss
It was the oils that were the issue
Can't send bikes if most of the team are dodging oils
ye
my play was smarter
do bikes almost solo on the first 2 kills cus everyone is a lazy fuck
now im not allowed to do them anymore because he doesnt want to reward the slackers
ez 100% uptime

Good plan
If you have an evoker in your group, you can bribe them to murder someone on boss spawn
Or a swapblaster
When the last add dies I just fucking sprint inside the hotel for safety
I just swapblast people onto the road to get run over by the bikers while we go to Stix or Locken
Ours did OAB coins and galley bombs solo in hc
BM hunter job
Ours is the RL and he's healing.
Our tanks are fiends though and move around a lot, so when he rolls the coins back sometimes he misses by a mile because we all shifted to a side
in hybrid build, what is the minimum of targets necessary to be worth keeping crimson tempest up?
2 targets
oils aren't really a dps loss most of the time
but ye bike duty is bleak
How much rio should I get approximatly, if I upgrade from +12 intime to +13 intime?
Anyone had the 1st boss on priory randomly change target at the end and snipe people? Happened to me twice, looking back at the shadowplay clip can't tell at all why its happening. Couldnt find anything on the web about it
This is with the spear ability
Seen it happen before, no clue what causes it
Idk if he changed direction, but I was hit once with a spear while definetly not in it.
It doesn't 'update' the visual either, the boss just faces someone else suddenly and bodies them
I believe around 30io a key
Test it out
So you think I should get at least 20? Coz that's all I need for 3k
depends on how fast the 12 you're upgrading was
Since I'm queing a couple, I can't say for sure, but they were all +1
12 to 13 is a base upgrade of 25 points if you did both keys in exactly the same time
I see, thanks! I hope it's gonna be enough then 😄
if it's not enough you can just try for a quicker 12 as well
It's more of an issue to get into groups
I don't really wanna push. I just hope that with 3k I get invites to 10s for my vault, which sadly is an issue...
https://mythicplanner.com/ for calculate
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2.8kish is generally enough.
ive been getting really ez invites for things below 12 and i was 2750 for a long time
esp since i stopped playing outlaw 
Idk, I'm stuck in que for 10min between each key. I even specifically look that they already have BL and a CR, but still they don't want me
Meanwhile my 660 mage with 2.2k score is insta invited
It gets buggy if you’re tank keeps him on the stairs. I’ve seen it come out of his ass once

Sounds traumatizing. Do you want to talk about it?
Those stairs bug a lot of stuff indeed, but it wasnt at the stairs. Checked also noone melded/vanish/invis etc. weird stuff
Maybe my logs are shit and they use this Archon tool? Haven't really checked. They just pull the warcraftlogs that I can see when I check my page, right?
No. The Druid that was shafted by the spear could prolly use some thoughts and prayers tho
Randomly turns 120 degree and oneshots 2 pll completely in the opposite direction 😅
Was it perhaps a prot pally tanking?
It was a prot pally yes
feel like there's some frontals that have twitchy aim
I’ve had that boss 360 noscope two people before, it’s bullshit
I was one of the people
Could have been a bad taunt/bop to drop the bleed, and bubbles taunt doesn’t work along the Z axis so he prolly inadvertently dropped aggro with an immune
Id like to say I was one of the people but knowing me I was probably standing in it
The hitbox on the spear is silly tho, starts in the bosses ass and is like 3x as wide as the indicator
Fuckin paladins and their self righteous bs
Hmm, ill check if he bubbled. But taunt should not cause that normally right? Because he has aggro anyway
Question about Fatebound: do you want to use Finishers always with 5+ CP or are you also sending 4CP finishers?
Tru, but this was not like that it literally turned 120 degrees
Nah. You can use blessing of protection to clear the bleed. But you have to taunt-bop-cancelaura bop during the fixate or you register as immune and the boss targets someone applicable. Same happens with bubble and final stand if the pally isn’t at the same elevation as the target because of z axis fuckery
Besides maybe sniping a rupture you never really wanna get off stix
Pretty much tunnel, if the ranged fell asleep and there's a mob out in Narnia that they ain't killing ill shadowstep over to help out
Well, 'help out', I try to help out
But, sin rogue limitations etc
Ass rogue*
Mm
"always 5+" means slways 5+
Hey lads at what key level should i be switching my gems / gear to have Vers ?
sheeesh guess ill use it when my healer cant keep me up then
No if u can still blame healer then u go for 0% vers
😄
I just tunnel, maybe throw out a Rupture if I swap for a kick or land in Narnia after playing the ball and running into a bomb.
The only time I'd consider swapping is when both our boomies are playing the ball at the same time. Then I sometimes run around and Rupture the crabs.
They’re not doing it in 18’s so I guess higher than that
quick question about rupture sniping we wanna do it on w/e CP we have or we for example prefer doing it on low CP so we dont waste too many points? And yes I have read it is linear to what cp we spent I just wonder if it is better to do it on low cp or high cp or doesnt matter
Doesn’t matter
Dang, whats your rio?
Can you back it up?

Tbh whispyr has a cock big enough to backup any claim
Btw
Friend forgot your name whispyr so he siad
"They guy that sounds like a twink and loves feet"
to describe you
XD
And i instantly knew
1 higher than your moms phone number
"Yea that's whispyr"
Based
How does someone sound like a twink
Listen to whispyr
Thats pretty high tbf
So can I reasonably just tunnel Vexie? 
Idk, Whispyr sounds like a cuddly human male
Yuh
Assassination is a spectrum
That sounds like a twink to me
U have zerocool at one end and Whispyr at the other
I mean yeah I mostly tunnel but stand in melee range oil spills at least
So, I'm doing my part
Dang, I think I'm surrounded by twinks
You probably are
Wait, there is another meaning for that word?
Imagine doing above a 10, couldn't be me
Well, the "other" meaning is the primary meaning
And it being another word for alt is just weird
ToP is like the worst key for Assa
So our dps should be higher
So yea, it's good
Decent tbf
I think I had like 3.4m in my last top
#shorts #wow #worldofwarcraft
Watcha the clip
It tells you what you need to know tbf lmao
Super good atm but target capped at 5
or 6 ig?
MM is the only hunter spec I would play
So why is sin “A tier” with 37 specs above it when i have yet to have someone outdps me (prob havent played with super good players tho)
I hate pets
Coz there is a thing called "Meta" and ppl adhere to it, until it changes, which takes a looooong time
So when the adds die they throw it? And standing in the circle catches it for use?
Assassin goes in A tier, just like subtlety goes in S tier
hey, i havent played since last season and wanna get back in.. just looked at wowhead m+ recommended talents.. is there a reason why kingsbane is no longer being taken and were down to 2 poisons from 4?
Ye pretty much. Bike dies, throws oils, people catch oils and dump it in the bikes
Does more damage
that's why peopel don't run KB
Yeah for once and next patch it sucks again
But if you catch multiple oils in a row you die so
When I could just play mage and be OP all the time
Exactly why i said now is a better time to do it

Fair fair
Is it just an area effect to fill the bikes or do you have to interact?
@balmy condor help, I'm listening to Westernhagen at work
But why
Hate pets, play MM, ppl assume you can BL, have to summon pet, sadness...
Yo guys is there a splatter bug? I went into a key where it wouldnt apply no matter what (thank god the key was resilient) had to swap to outlaw next attempt
Yo i haven't listened to that guy in a while
Just run into it with an oil and it's fine
Small chance my other dagger was broken but i dont think im that stupid
Did you have deadyl poison or instant poison? And did you Rupture before?
Faster than me
wdym, i can kill boomkins in a duel
ICH BIN WIEDER HIER
IN MEINEM REVIER
goated dungeon
If your dagger was broken you wouldn't have been able to mutilate then?
So no spatter
Huh?
Can do that better as sub 😄
Def had rupture on dont recall if i has deadly tho? It doesnt apply if i didnt have it on?
the end result counts
Mitilate was def goin thru just no splatter
It’s only poisoned enemy
Orly? I did not know that. How?
Both daggers fine then
Lemmie get the spell
You need to mutilate/ambush a poisoned + ruptured enemy
I'm at work so I can't look but it takes two cans to fill doesn't it?
Yup
So instant poison won’t do (shouldnt be using instant anyways though)
Think each bike drops two oils but don't quote me on this
I am just a simple melee DPS tunneling boss
Ahh i must have fked up and had instant poison on, i think i was subconsciously finding an excuse to play outlaw
Was about to ask
Oh neat, I never knew that they added a skill like that.
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Mit Pfefferminz bin ich dein Prinz, as they say
They gave you a pet in the best way they could
Making it completly offscreen and only appearing for a few seconds when you press something
Like you can now use intimidation as MM
That one was glorious aswell
Still is
The unused bikes don't do anything else, right? The oil can mechanic is just a passive slowdown to the encounter since you have to do a bit more to drive the cars into her
so you legit can't summon a pet as mm
you could
Unused bikes don't do anything but if the armour isn't broken in a certain time the boss will begin murdering people
Good luck homie
You can also run the crab build as assassin
It's that sorta "you can"
does crippling/mindnumbing/atrophic not count as poison for spatter?
IMO at least
No
Prolly depends on timer
huh, ok
If it did it would be broken
Lethal poison
Imagine straight up reducing cast time for everything around you
Mr Whispyr regarding the “staying above 50% energy” for bleed build is that for both aoe and ST?
For me it says Deadly
The note is for st, you’re doing some very wrong if you’re not >50% in aoe
Yeah it says deadly but also works with amp
Noted thx sir
I think I got my IO high enough to get into 7s no matter what.. Now I needd to swap over to Sin and learn it
but why...?
Why life
true
Why is
Why Westernhagen
Why am
y
Why spyr
Sub didn't really change since I played last, so when I came back, I just stayed Sub to gear up. Last time I played Sin was in Shadowlands
And it's changed a lot since then
But why
ah ok
I quit in S3 last expansion when we stopped pushing for CE
thought its some weird "assa is better, so i have ti play it now" thing
I ame back for 2 weeks at the beginning of TWW, got AotC/KSM on my warrior, then quit

Sub rogue is goated in low keys bruh only swap if u enjoy sin more
Well, I plan on raiding
Sudden demise in low keys says what
And Sin seems better in raid
Plus, I'd like to push to like 13-14 range, and agian Sin seems better there
Have fun 🙂
based
It really comes down to if I can find a guild I enjoy or not
I can't raid with my old guild anymore
@balmy condor I miss u(s)
If you garrote main target from stealth will it apply deathstalkers?
No
Deathstalkers mark only comes from ambush
Ty
However if you have darkest night from a previous pack, you can start with garrote
As your next 7 CP enven will apply the mark
Oh without darkest night?
Darkest night is gained when all marks are consumed or the target dies with mark
I guess it was to get silences out idk
So that's most likely what was happening
Target dies with mark and you have DN for
I think 30 seconds?
So you could idk
Get up from your desk
make a sandwich
walk your dogs
and by the time you are back you still have darkest night
It was first pull of the dung and he did it there too
with subterfuge you don’t have to ambush for 6s
Ah maybe that’s why
oohhhhhhhhh
Thats what you mean
Ok i thought you meant he just didn't ambush at all
Was getting confused
Ye he is prob starting with garrote cause he is not at his main target yet (splatter target)
has anyone tried mastery flask in bleed build? just did a 13 floodgate and its the first time i got 5.4m+ overalls. is it worth gimping your on-use pot for those giga sudden demise bleeds?
you could just have infinite mastery baseline
I use mastery flask
I mean unless its a dangerous pull u can do whatever the fk u want
If u not min maxing for time
the whole schitck with mastery flask is
Feel like that DH is underperforming
your pot wont give you mastery
Whatever flask youre using is gonna have an absolutely minimal impact on your damage
^
Do whatever you want
Leave them alone bro they suffering enough
I suppose playing DH in the first place is suspect to begin with
seeing as assa likes all stats i dont see why you wouldnt run the random flask since it has higher stats than the others, but 
My Workshop on +12 was too good 😦
Embrace the chaos 
How important is caustic spatter in keys?
I mean its one of your main aoe tools
Do I just put it on a Prio target in a pack and forget about it? I can’t seem to make it do the damage I see from it when I play with rogues on main.
You should always have spatter up when you envenom
had to use mastery for a while so that chaos doesnt push priory trinket on other stats

god i hate that trinket
Priory L
stop making me care about stats
I dont get how it sims higher than HoC same ilvl
Bleed build as well where dm isnt as impactful as normal build
I’m sorry if this sounds dumb but where does the damage from caustic spatter come from? The tooltip says 40% of Poison damage caused, but none of my spells specify poison damage so I’ve just been assuming it’s my lethal poisons only.
Evenom no?
Poison is a subset of Nature damage, but spatter should proc off of all nature damage in our spell book and talent trees cause blizzard is inconsistent with their word choices.
Literally anything thats nature damage youre doing gets spattered
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Man I can’t figure out why my first two parses in heroic raid are giga high and then single target is a dumpster fire the rotation isn’t hard could it just be getting like more single target orientated trinkets like swapping energy drink for magnet in raid single
because it gives the same/more stats?
compare your killtimer with others
if they kill a boss at 6:23 and you kill it at 7:13, you ofc will look bad in comparison
HoC used to sim higher when i was playing KB build back when u actually had to sync your trinket with ur cds
I guess different stat allocation cause the change
Looking for a point of clarity on the fatebound ST rotation. I know if the opener we vanish in the KB window; for the next deathmark cast, are we vanishing for the improved garrote before it or do we keep the vanish in the KB window?
huh
priory is the trinket that allings
well, both do
Dm + KB > KB
That’s a good idea I will do that tryan ty
bet ty
Can I ask a stupid question why does almost everyone use focus lens isn’t that not as good for aoe
lens for me sims within margin of signet; so its a decent trinket.
Though, in sims you have to be mindful of timing because it might be sending lens more often than signet due to CDs
edit im thinking of the trinket ignore me
embelishments are all whatever and probably some sub players that swapped over to sin and didnt bother recrafting
Ahhh just thought it was weird like all top m+ use lense thought I should recraft
If I was missing some magical boat

!macro
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
hello everybody, I have been doing some keys with bleed build and would welcome any criticism or general commentary on how I can suck less
hi this was probably asked alot but is dungeon slice a good way to sim for m+?
ye dslice is good for rogue
Hey, u Think rogue assa is better than mm hunter ?

I should call her
how did you do log review again ?
you hit !log
!log
Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage
Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/
whats the key to using the magnet trink?
Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage
Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

wack
hasn't since like early DF
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/t1MLcb4vVaHKRqYQ?fight=last&type=damage-done&source=12 idk what i did wrong here to get 84 log
i mean it could be better?
Guys my thistle tea drinking is automatically
thats normal
one minor thing is moving this pot from opener to the damage amp cd sequence
Is that the right thing?
read the talent
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Assassination uses no other macro aside from standard Deathmark+Potion+Racial+Trinket
ye that's how it works now
oh fuck
yeah, its in my macro 😒
did the bikes get done properly?
if they don't shit gets screwey real quick
ye I just made a seperate DM bind for vexie / target dummies / whatever when I dont wanna use pot 8)
i believe so
this is you
this is top 50
y
it looks like you deathmark after all of the adds die?
Rup uptime seems a bit low
at 2m?
did it as soon as it came up form cd i thought
What
MM hunter and assa acomplish diffrent things
Like MM hunter won't be better than assa if your comp already has a hunter in it
this is only a 95 and you can see the diff
hmmcould be a strat thing
but something is fucky with that 2nd deathmark
There's too many variables for it to be is x better than y
you're doing like 0 dmg
first DM was at 7.5sercs and second at 2:09
it just makes no sense
yeah you're kinda just getting dicked a little too
when did u proc the damage amp
no idea how to check that
through CDs
how do i view what my parse is again?
top 50 damage to pit mechanic
does wowanalyzer show me it
all of your adds are kinda getting murdered before your CDs come up?
on the front page of ur warcraftlogs
found it ty
Spatter was not up the whole fight?
or does it flatline if it's doing no damage
but spatter was doing no damage while he was in DM window
I can tell you that much
spatter shows 0 if its doing nothing
yeah because all of the adds were dead
ok cool
yeah I'm 5 mins behind everyone else's analysis
don't mind me
yea thats tough
here's a tip
pay your raid to fuck up the bikes
so the intermission starts later

yeah kind of a bum answer but sometimes you have less control over your parse than people like to think
deffo in aoe fights
is it ever correct here to just hold DM
lockenstock I am 100 parsing every wipe
for the intermission
hell no

we wanna miss a cast?
especially towards the end of the fight
if you think ur raid will miss bikes then you should expect intermission around 2m
and not 1:40
I thought it was around 2m if bikes are done perfectly
no
shows how good we are in my guild lmfao
Thanks for all the comments 🙂
ye as in if we haven't hit first intermission
by 2min
to be fair
I would probably hold until it hits
yeah ofc but we were talking about not doing 1 on pull
i was thinking you just rip kb on pull and then hold dm for the intermish
I mean what u really want is a slowish kill
so u get full cds in the 2nd intermission
rank 8 got literally perfect intermission timing btw
full cds in execute damage amp mamma mia!
ye very early
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KrP6TD2mwjvdBxpC?fight=4&type=damage-done&source=4 this was my 99, we lust at 1:47
ignore me.. i was looking at the wrong build
like look at my 2nd damage amp damage 
yeah but u get late intermission 
I wouldnt say its that late
think there was a call to hold the bikes for a few seconds tho but it wasnt even a full 2min
like we lust at 1:47 and I deathmark at 2:06
how do i check again when our intermission started?
happy for u bro im hitting 60 on hc instead 😎
BATTLE
im a variety gamer i raid in ffxiv on my off days
i just play sudoku
i like to fuck
Whats the closest class to rogue in ffxiv
that name lmao
how good is bleed over
i like no kb
ah our intermission started at 1:30 so pretty early i guess?
plays way nicer on st
how good is bleed build over lichbane?
this was 13brew btw for test
on fizz?
found the league player
ffxiv's ninja job is similar to sub rogue, it is extremely burst-oriented with the largest alpha hit in the game

its hard to compare tho, the gcd is a lot slower in ffxiv
I do like big numbers
there's more emphasis on weaving off-globals between globals
rather than many fast global inputs














