assassination

[balmy condor]

bleed build realistically just better

but he took kb

so

press it

[nova kelp]

true

lol

[balmy condor]

also if we're gonna vanish

at least do something with the vanish

like don't just vanish for fun

[lethal arrow]

jsut tell ur tank to pull bigger

then ur parse goes up

[nova kelp]

sitting on cds actually is just a super common mistake on all classes in M+
Or sending them for little gain

[hidden bay]

@balmy condor HELLOOOOOOO

fuck you tabbed back in

[mystic osprey]

press 1 if you come from outlaw rogue

1

[balmy condor]

but yeh idk

you're just like

[mystic osprey]

trash

[balmy condor]

playing it safe

[mystic osprey]

ik

[balmy condor]

huge downtimes every now and then

not pressing cds

but it's not really all that bad

[mystic osprey]

yeah okay

Is the bleed build that much better?

[balmy condor]

sometimes it feels like you blacked out a little

[nova kelp]

most times the key issues in a key is likely to be "general play"

[balmy condor]

cause you CT like 3x in 10 seconds

or you vanish and then cast nothing

[mystic osprey]

awful tank

kept pulling one

then waiting like 5 seconds

and pulling another

then waiting

yk

[mystic osprey]

🤔 yeah ok

idk why im doing that

[nova kelp]

that is the kind of variable that's hard to account for, there COULD be a reason for simple "mistakes", but it's difficult to ascertain without freecamming over your shoulder in real time

this is why coaches are sick - if you ever want to go that route

[mystic osprey]

Should I be playing hybrid or bleed builds?

[balmy condor]

bleed

[nova kelp]

or watching big boy streamers, but you have to approach that with the right mindset - they're not jjust "playing good" they're making decisions for a reason, try to know that reason

[mystic osprey]

whats the percentage dmg increase look like

[viscid spear]

One shot all the bosses up to Bandit, spend the other half of the night wiping on him.

[mystic osprey]

heroic?

or mythic

[viscid spear]

Yessir

HC

[mystic osprey]

yeah we had that issue for one night

after you kill him once hes a piece of piss

[nova kelp]

ah the ole reclear woe

[viscid spear]

We should be progging on Gallywix, not wiping to Bandit

It was almost always Fraud Detection too

[nova kelp]

I feel your pain sir - different situation, same situation

[mystic osprey]

kick the shit dps 🗣️ 🔥

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/the-interview-james-franco-david-skylark-same-but-different-but-still-same-gif-4956158

[nova kelp]

for us it's myth rik

each week gota remind people barrel lives matter

[mystic osprey]

For us its using our brain

we're all decent at the game we just get lazy after a few wipes

[balmy condor]

impossible to tell honestly

depends a lot on the dungeon and shit

[nova kelp]

I hate top

top feels bad as everything

top makes me just wana switch to WW

[viscid spear]

1.15m and 1.07m are the tanks

[nova kelp]

that's on 1AB?

at a wipe?

[viscid spear]

Yush

[nova kelp]

what time into the fight?

or is that an overall

[viscid spear]

14% wipe

[nova kelp]

oh

that's not THAT bad

bit of a spread

[viscid spear]

6:16 minutes

[nova kelp]

but that's totally doable for hero

[cinder geode]

Could i get a log review on this sprocketmonger fight? I think this would be good to see where my issues in ST are

[nova kelp]

for a second I thought you were gona be like "that's at 1 minute"

and I was going to die inside

[viscid spear]

I don't want to reveal which number is me

[nova kelp]

dw about it

you are where you are

some peeps in here will be like "IF YOU DON'T PINK PARSE YOU'RE SHIT"

those people are shit

learn to improve and don't be so worried

[gritty laurel]

yeah, parsing is an absolute shitshow anyway. only thing that really matters is if you're a chronic grey-green parser there's a lot of room for improvement

[viscid spear]

What I don't hear is the RL asking me why I don't swap to Reel Assistants

[nova kelp]

lol

that's right

I forgot you have that one going on

that will actually fuck your parses tbh

like FUCK your parses

[viscid spear]

I think my damage to adds was about 12% of my total damage that pull

[nova kelp]

imagine trying to keep up when one guy just rails the boss and gets assloads of caustic spatter
and you're there like
runs...
...garotte...rupture... ah shit... vanish? ambush... fuck it died
runs...

[viscid spear]

(The 1.99m is me)

[nova kelp]

nah you doing fine bruv

[viscid spear]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

[mystic osprey]

doxx them 🔥

[nova kelp]

hahahahaha

[viscid spear]

Idk if that's good dps for them, they're both Prot Paladins

[nova kelp]

2 prot pallies

that's a choice

[fervent willow]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[indigo mulch]

Give me my vault

Generally its at 5:00 in the morning here in germany, i'm guessing swapping over to daylight saving time pushed the vault an hour lmao

[fervent willow]

I imported whispy plater, but I'm having double timer, anyone had this issue?

[uneven crag]

!TOTT

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[hollow river]

OmniCD

There’s an option to turn off OmniCD timers in the plater settings

[fervent willow]

nice, thanks

[cinder geode]

Does anyone know what type of weakaura or addon you use to get something that looks like limit max UI?

[nova kelp]

could always ask him on stream if you wanted to be sure

[earnest remnant]

afaik he uses atrocity's ui

[nova kelp]

that would make sense, atros is pretty clean

[cinder geode]

damn atrocity gets $3200 a month just on patreon for his uI

must be comp

[coral ibex]

he's got a legit team of coders to do it so

[earnest remnant]

@twilit hollow

[twilit hollow]

@earnest remnant

[earnest remnant]

can you code me a ticket to your house for a meal?

[twilit hollow]

i could not code my way out of a paper bag

[runic hinge]

what about into one

[twilit hollow]

absolutely have done that before yes

[earnest remnant]

paper=true

[twilit hollow]

@earnest remnant ill admit i have not played rogue this tier at all, ive betrayed my melee brethren classes ive been maintaining, im playing spriest

[earnest remnant]

fair choice

[runic hinge]

Spriest so fun and cool looking

[earnest remnant]

i wouldnt play rogue either if i had a choice

[twilit hollow]

=

[twilit hollow]

its pretty fun, voidweaver is fun af

[umbral sierra]

double signet drop nut

[runic hinge]

Definitely fun. I think void eruption looks cooler but I am enjoying it

I also don’t like spike as much as flay but what can you do

[livid marlin]

Spriest is great, I am a proud spriest enjoyer

Voidweaver is great

[earnest remnant]

[twilit hollow]

i dont run spike @runic hinge it feels like ass compared to flay NGL

but im a dirty casual these days so

we play for vibes

[vapid geode]

any reason my darkest night either doesnt get consumed on trash packs during keys or itll consume and just completely drop my mark? is this just a known bug

[cinder geode]

okie so I got the atrocity UI but it doesn't look like his at all

how do I get health bars to look like this ?

[earnest remnant]

by picking the non cloured version

coloured*

[cinder geode]

ah i see

[spice spire]

You cannot say that king

[earnest remnant]

if i didn't say non

then sure

now you are the one making racially motivated bud

[spice spire]

It’s literally promoting your guild?

Self promotion is illegal??

[earnest remnant]

my guild isnt called coloured

so

[spice spire]

Who said anything about race

[earnest remnant]

checkmate

[twilit hollow]

[spice spire]

Idk stealthi

You’re being sus about it

[coral ibex]

yo garf i highly suggest you use whispyr's plater instead of atrocity's

its way better filtered for assa

[earnest remnant]

very american of you to want to take a colour conversation that route

[spice spire]

To self promotion?’

[earnest remnant]

sure that was what you initially were thinkin

[spice spire]

The idea literally never crossed my mind until you said something

[earnest remnant]

[twilit hollow]

How is it better filtered man

[coral ibex]

for real?

[twilit hollow]

Stealthi is literally who wrote the debuff filter for me

[coral ibex]

tell me all the debuffs shown by default on assa rogue by aui plater

dont need to see poisons

dont need to see garrotes

dont need to see iron wire

[earnest remnant]

thats a take

[twilit hollow]

are you

smoking something

[coral ibex]

i mean i literally just copied whispyr's filters and applied them to aui plater filter

and i like it better

[twilit hollow]

i went over debuffs with stealthi, we filtered anything without any use case to see, and even ordered most of it in a priority mod

[coral ibex]

sorry for expressing an opinion about a plater profile man

[twilit hollow]

deathmark shows, caustic shows, shiv shows, garrote certainly shows,

im just confused how its bad

[coral ibex]

i never said it was bad, i said whispyr's has better filtering

i literally use the plater profile with additional filtering

i like the plater

[twilit hollow]

and i asked what about aui debuffs are filtered worse

im genuinely curious

[coral ibex]

i think the ones i listed before are unnecessary to see in the debuff list on the nameplate

[livid marlin]

very nice

[earnest remnant]

reason why a poison is tracked is because you need poisons on the target you rupture or else you wont get any energy back from it

[coral ibex]

i'd rather see the nameplate colors change or the border to change

[coral ibex]

than see more debuffs

[earnest remnant]

Ironwire is very nice to track in M+

[coral ibex]

yup i track all of that on the plater in ways other than debuffs

[earnest remnant]

if you actually cordinate stops

[earnest remnant]

and you arent guranteed to get a poison on it from just rupturing it with 1-2 autos

[cinder geode]

where can i find said profile

[coral ibex]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[coral ibex]

^

and just to reiterate i think aui plater is great i just dont like how the debuff icons are filtered

[twilit hollow]

thats fine but the phrasing implied to me somethign was wrong with it that was major, not just some personal preference stuff, if something was legitimately off with it and had a good argument for it id rather know to fix it

[coral ibex]

maybe garfield loads up whispyrs and thinks i'm smoking crack

i apologize if i came off that way

[sullen mural]

sat out mythic bosses for more heroic slots for what man

[coral ibex]

i used the default aui plater for months before i saw whispyr's and really liked the recolor mod he was using

[runic hinge]

Maybe I’ll just run flay cause it does feel way better than spike and I am also just playing it as an alt anyways

[spice spire]

Honestly that’s a decent m+ line

[hot pasture]

dagger myth or tier myth?

[haughty flicker]

we still didnt kill riccardo

[sullen mural]

eh

Biggest upgrade my far is just gally ring

by*

[spice spire]

Same here

But upgrades are upgrades

[spice spire]

Whichever sims higher

[sullen mural]

not even 1% upgrade and needs me to send 75 crests on weapon just feels sadge

[cinder geode]

I got the whispy plater profile, it is pretty clean

Can't figure out how to get the health bars, though

[coral ibex]

did you /reload

[cinder geode]

yessir

[coral ibex]

and no enemy nameplates?

[haughty flicker]

first pull of the night

rupture parried twice into getting mechanic on the opener

absolute cinema

[sullen mural]

??? you can get oil as melee

I swear I have never seen that mechanic on me

ever

[spice spire]

Yes

[sullen mural]

Spoonfed

[small mirage]

guys I currently have sus energy drink+signet on champ track, from vault i got mechno core on hero track, but also a myth track belt with optimal stats, and a hero tier shoulders (currently i have adventure shoulders)

I guess it comes down to is mechno core better than sus drink?

[coral ibex]

parry is thematic

[haughty flicker]

i'd take the belt ngl

i'd sim first but i dont think mechanocore beats signet+pacemaker

which you can just farm at hero track

cant farm myth belt

[haughty flicker]

i shouldve taken the hint and just gone to sleep

the night did not get any better

[stark halo]

I would sim it, I have both pacemaker and mechano on hero track and a magnet on hero, my best sim combo is magnet and mechano

[coral ibex]

i'd definitely sim it

[small mirage]

honestly you do make a good point, I would sim as well but i'm in the process of gearing up so it'll probably be very volitale and subject to change anyway

[stark halo]

If it makes you feel any better, I’m simming my trinks at ilvl 664

[haughty flicker]

taking mechano is probably not a bad idea, im just baised towards never taking hero track unless i absolutely have to lmao

but 100% sim it and see if mechano is just way better

[small mirage]

I suppose so, well apperciate the help guys

[haughty flicker]

also looking at this clip im just now realizing i have two icons for debuffs for some fucking reason

havent fixed my ui since guild made me download all this crap, need to work on that

[rose needle]

Quick question, in m+ I'm currently rocking the standard deathstalker m+ build minus iron wire, I had that swapped to master assassin. How much of a dmg loss if any is dropping master assassin for iron wire?

[wise plover]

alot in hybrid, a bit less in bleed build

[rose needle]

Im playing hybrid, aight fuck em they don't get aoe silence

[willow rover]

Is there a reason the rogue build no longer uses kingsbane?

[neat flame]

🤔

[willow rover]

M+ build used to use kingsbane did it not?

[haughty flicker]

bleed build

does not use kb

because it focuses more on bleed damage

both are fine, bleed tends to not suffer as much in lower keys as hybrid does

[coral ibex]

they should make a kingsbane but its bleed damage

choice node

[willow rover]

Cause looking at the hybrid build on wowhead, it still doesnt use kingsbane?

[subtle tundra]

exsanguinate

[haughty flicker]

queensbane

actually

yeah thats just exsang

lmao

[subtle tundra]

i doubt

[willow rover]

So bleed build is much better in higher keys this season?

[subtle tundra]

no

[haughty flicker]

no

bleed build does more aoe

hybrid can do slightly more st

but its like less than 1% more in full bis

and for some people (like me) it actually sims lower than bleed in st

[manic sphinx]

even when they want a rogue, get declined 😦

[haughty flicker]

they wanted a rogue warlock not a rogue

sorry friend

[coral ibex]

yea i wish i was playing when that was a thing

[neat flame]

this is not true

[haughty flicker]

yes, it is true

[willow rover]

Oh that mats a lot of sense. I was using the build with kingsbane from last season and was wondering why my ST was so much lower than every1 else

[haughty flicker]

you can substitute in kb and iw for sbs/doomblade

but the default bleed build does not use kb

[subtle tundra]

yes kb is a flex point in bleed build

we happy?

[neat flame]

happier

[haughty flicker]

[haughty flicker]

well sin st in keys is kind of not great atm regardless of build

we just pump aoe

we dont do tank damage but we arent winning any awards either

[subtle tundra]

watch me roll a mythic jasper with 1 vault slot

[willow rover]

Are we supposed to be a lot lower in ST compared to other classes in keys? And entirely dominate in aoe

[subtle tundra]

yes

[haughty flicker]

there arent many classes we beat in st

can probably beat boomkin

[willow rover]

When doin something like a 12 im behind like 100 mil in ST that feels like a massive gap

[obtuse socket]

so is bleed build the way to go in m+ ? Like 13s and higher?

[rotund oak]

you sim higher

[subtle tundra]

cant even say skill issue

assa just sucks

[willow rover]

Ahh k thought I was doing something wrong. Couldn't push anymore buttons for ST was wondering if there was some magic I was missing

[quasi ember]

None of the top 50 rogues are even using that build

[golden loom]

What about the bottom 50

[humble verge]

not 3.7 last season and currently not 4k io rn

no wonder

[subtle tundra]

i should've been pushing m+ so i could spread bleed propaganda

[humble verge]

man

[subtle tundra]

[humble verge]

i havent tried bleed yet

[subtle tundra]

my opinion is worthless if i dont have score

[humble verge]

but idk if running bleed in 14s is worth it

[subtle tundra]

just try it?

its early season

[sullen mural]

cant even deplete

gg

[slow tulip]

they should've made it - if you deplete on last boss - its only downgraded by 1 level and for each unkilled boss -its depleted further - so if you deplete on first pull your key gets from like 14 to 8

[humble verge]

varas did u open your vault

[wild thorn]

ive now gotten bis ring bis neck and bis belt from vault

no trinkets

none

[subtle tundra]

yes it was not a jasper 💯

[humble verge]

ive gotten no bis, but atleast upgrades

[subtle tundra]

this game is just bad

im quitting

[humble verge]

i need to get out of bed

[slow tulip]

bis socket anyone?

[humble verge]

and open vault

last week socket

[obtuse lance]

Will bonus stats like leech carry on after converting item in the catalyst?

[humble verge]

i didnt even pick it up

yes

[wild thorn]

ive taken 0 socket on all characters this season

[humble verge]

it will

[rotund oak]

yes

[humble verge]

bro straight yapped

[slow tulip]

[haughty flicker]

i will spread bleed propaganda until the day i die

more aoe, similar prio, similar (sometimes higher) st

people are stuck in the past

[rotund oak]

[haughty flicker]

the future is now old man

bleed is the way forward for our people

[slow tulip]

and if you deplete 2 times in a roll - your key disappears so you gotta get a new one xdd

[rotund oak]

yeah and if u die u deplete anyway

also downgrade ur weekly vault chests

and get kicked from your guild

[slow tulip]

[rotund oak]

also pay 200euro more on ur next tax session

[balmy condor]

@subtle tundra

the world is healing

[humble verge]

whispyr with no nickname???

[balmy condor]

(I played like shit)

[humble verge]

bros not even 3l

3k

[balmy condor]

[subtle tundra]

thats alright. you will have time to get good

[balmy condor]

the io climb

will continue

need to recover

[rotund oak]

we stand besides you

[balmy condor]

after like

[rotund oak]

on this journey

[balmy condor]

3 weeks of afk

[subtle tundra]

hope youre happy!

[balmy condor]

[humble verge]

idk, people stop inviting at 14s icl

[balmy condor]

I am

[subtle tundra]

cause i am!

[balmy condor]

I am having fun

[subtle tundra]

so am i!

[humble verge]

im missing prio, workshop and flood

[subtle tundra]

i did my first sketch. im redoing it tonight

[sharp viper]

[humble verge]

at 14

[haughty flicker]

whispyr is becoming an M+er

oh no

[quasi ember]

They too

[subtle tundra]

i learnt about the horizon line

[lean bear]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[subtle tundra]

so i gotta remake the sketch

then i start paaaaaaaaainting

[sharp viper]

what kinda paint are you using? guache, watercolour, acrylic, oil?

[haughty flicker]

finger

[subtle tundra]

whatever the fuck i bought

[rotund oak]

the middle or in general

[humble verge]

our guild this week on sprocket prog

[rotund oak]

[humble verge]

surely we kill it this week

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/mmhmm-mmhmm-meme-mmhmm-gif-mmhmm-twitch-gif-23291803

[haughty flicker]

stealing this for sure

[subtle tundra]

im checking

acrylics

[balmy condor]

do not fear

blizzard will inevitably make m+ several orders of magnitude more dogshit over the next 3 seasons

and I will once again be a vault filler

[subtle tundra]

once you taste the high m+, its hard to quit

[balmy condor]

f to doubt

[rotund oak]

yeah because he will like to deplete 99 out of 100 keys

[balmy condor]

keys are fun when keys are fun

[subtle tundra]

the thrill of IO

[balmy condor]

could not care about io

[rotund oak]

there is no thrill its an ocd

xd

[balmy condor]

I will push as long as I have fun pushing

[sharp viper]

I kinda trust Weezing to not care about number go tiny bit bigger

[subtle tundra]

ANYTHING FOR THAT +12 SCORE

[sharp viper]

that's fun, enjoy!

[subtle tundra]

i shall become picasso but better

[humble verge]

reddit is already complaining, youre too high on the hierarchy for it to affect you yet

[balmy condor]

your mind is an enigma varas, you are perfect for an artist

[balmy condor]

tf are they complaining about this season is literally the best season in like 2 expansions

[subtle tundra]

you can just call it what it is, an illness

[balmy condor]

mental illness makes the best art

[humble verge]

nah dawg, reddit will complain about anything, loot, m+, raiding, delves, old content and new content

[balmy condor]

true and real

[humble verge]

ok listen

[royal lantern]

cant log in and get 6/6myth gear for doing a +4 key, so blizz hates m+

[sharp viper]

if everything would be perfect, reddit would bitch about the lack of content to complain about

[humble verge]

this PROTPALA at almost 660, somehow doesnt manage to kill the new delve boss guy in undermine

250 triea

tries

and still complains

[balmy condor]

did wowhead release their post-hotfix buff article

I wrote a thing

[haughty flicker]

well gear kind of doesnt matter on that fight, its just a kick bomba into adds check

[runic hinge]

im suprised tank brann isn't on the front page still

[haughty flicker]

pally cant kick bomba

unlucky

[balmy condor]

need to see the delusions in the comments

[humble verge]

so like, git gud

[haughty flicker]

well yeah

its just a simple spill issue

[balmy condor]

also I just opened my details jesus fuck lmao

[patent snow]

As someone who played assassination last season and was very comfortable with the playstyle should I stick with Hybrid Deathstalker? Or is the Bleed Build worth looking at?

[balmy condor]

they play the exact same

[haughty flicker]

bleed

[balmy condor]

well not EXACT same

[sharp viper]

big bleed

[balmy condor]

but pretty much the same

[haughty flicker]

b l e e d

[balmy condor]

you just CT in single target and fan of knives on 3 instead of 2

[humble verge]

pisslow

[runic hinge]

okay i did 78 keys total on all characters last season, I've done 65 already just on rogue this season

[haughty flicker]

i need to start doing keys just so i can use my io to back up my bleed bias

[balmy condor]

I did top dps in my 14 rookery man chillax

[patent snow]

Oh alright, they guide made it sound like bleed was easier. I kind of like the complexity of the hybrid spec.

[humble verge]

yes

[haughty flicker]

oh i should check that

[humble verge]

what was the dps dawg

[subtle tundra]

1.9mil

[balmy condor]

I mean it technically is because no kingsbane

[humble verge]

[balmy condor]

no :( you're just gonna laugh at me

[subtle tundra]

i was the keystone

[balmy condor]

big meanie

[humble verge]

post it bitch

[balmy condor]

fuck you scot

[subtle tundra]

i will too

do you stream keys whispyr

[humble verge]

yeah id like to fuck myself too

but i cant

[subtle tundra]

lmk when you push so i can backseat game you

[balmy condor]

DONT LOOK

[balmy condor]

just closed stream

[golden loom]

10 cinderbrew from yesterday whispyr

[subtle tundra]

im more worried about the other 2

[humble verge]

holy how is the uh bottom

[golden loom]

Big dam

[balmy condor]

idk man

[subtle tundra]

isnt ret supposed to absolutely decimate overall

[humble verge]

also, giga dps

[haughty flicker]

maybe it was an ethical ret

[humble verge]

[haughty flicker]

playing good build instead of pad build

[balmy condor]

this was a 14 cinderbrew we missed timer by legit 3 seconds

[subtle tundra]

yeah, afk every 5 globals

[balmy condor]

caustic in the mud

[humble verge]

deaths?

[golden loom]

Jesus

[balmy condor]

too many

[humble verge]

[haughty flicker]

has whispyr given up on kb entirely

huge

[humble verge]

not in raid

[subtle tundra]

ok this overall in a cinderbrew is inexcusable

[humble verge]

i hope

[haughty flicker]

well yeah cant drop kb in raid

[subtle tundra]

you need to actually get better

[balmy condor]

it was pretty scuffed

[humble verge]

i might try bleed now

[haughty flicker]

yet

[humble verge]

wait whisp

are u CTing on boss?

[haughty flicker]

yrd

[balmy condor]

of course

[haughty flicker]

yes

[humble verge]

ok

[haughty flicker]

ct always everywhere

all the time

[humble verge]

i dont CT boss with hybrid

[balmy condor]

you wanna see what's actually inexusable

[sharp viper]

class with 50% uptime on their damage buff is pretty good

[humble verge]

atleast

[balmy condor]

this was Ipa

+14 ipa

[humble verge]

ipa?

[subtle tundra]

yes CT is good!

[humble verge]

MANGO IPA

[subtle tundra]

mango mango mango

[balmy condor]

we kill boss, the warlock goes "I needed help with adds"

I look at details

[humble verge]

rofl

my goat

[sharp viper]

was that ret paladin afk?

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

"I needed help with adds"

[haughty flicker]

ok maybe ret not ethical

[royal lantern]

#assassination

[subtle tundra]

smartass

[balmy condor]

and it's literally all sudden demise

[subtle tundra]

suddenly demised

[balmy condor]

yeah idk

[runic hinge]

which one is you

[balmy condor]

I went straight from like 11's into 14's

played like ass

and they were scuffed

[haughty flicker]

[dapper cradle]

cool to see whispyr pushing for title again this season

i hope he gets it again

[humble verge]

[balmy condor]

first time*

but yes maybe idk

haven't fully decided yet

[subtle tundra]

top left, bottom

[runic hinge]

need to get that title to silence the doubters

[dapper cradle]

first time for season two of tww you mean surely

[runic hinge]

real

[balmy condor]

won't happen

I get title and they'd go like oh well it's only 1 title

outlier clearly

[humble verge]

whisp, should i go to the store and get something healthy to eat, or something sugary

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/moving-goalposts-goalposts-changing-requirements-gif-25214446

[dapper cradle]

next thing you know whisp is running keys with dorki

[runic hinge]

both

[haughty flicker]

"yeah you got title but casual was higher io"

[dapper cradle]

and jpc

[runic hinge]

get some fruit

[humble verge]

fruit

[haughty flicker]

whispyr and jpc teamup

[dapper cradle]

one thing leads to another and whispyr is kissing jpc on stream

[haughty flicker]

the tag team we need

[humble verge]

who in their right mind buys froot

[balmy condor]

holy shit I wish

[subtle tundra]

except nobody will play with rogue in actual top keys KEK

[balmy condor]

true

[humble verge]

meta has been declared like last week

boomie uh firemage

unless

[subtle tundra]

boomie firemage and what

[haughty flicker]

when are we going to see whispyr in mdi

[balmy condor]

udk no

[humble verge]

unholy

yes?

[haughty flicker]

uhdk for sure

[subtle tundra]

ah

uh as in unholy

[humble verge]

yes

[subtle tundra]

not in as uhhhhhh

[humble verge]

uh as unholy

uhhhh

cause u want grip

[balmy condor]

forgive him varas, he doesn't speak good

[humble verge]

with 2 casters

[subtle tundra]

i thinky you want damage

[haughty flicker]

uhhhhhhnholy

[haughty flicker]

yeah it has nothing to do with unholy scaling quadratically on packs and doing silly damage

they just want grip

[balmy condor]

it's my job to put words on a page

checkmate

[dapper cradle]

uhdk is just good for grip this season

[runic hinge]

wish you'd scale quadratically on my grip

[balmy condor]

what

[runic hinge]

what

[subtle tundra]

clearly not the insane burst

[balmy condor]

chat what's he mean by that

[humble verge]

the thing is, grip as util is good and always will be, the added damage is just on top

[subtle tundra]

yeah but the dk for grip is a raid thing

[dapper cradle]

how will they tune uhdk

[haughty flicker]

[dapper cradle]

prolly just tune down the explosion or what?

[humble verge]

make it worse than frost

[dapper cradle]

dk should never be good tbh

[haughty flicker]

nerf grip prob

[humble verge]

?????

literally

dk is only good in m+

[earnest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/logical-fallacy-ref-referee-debate-debate-ref-gif-10348152689006369187

[humble verge]

its ass in raid

if u play dk in raid

u should yeah

[subtle tundra]

am i crazy or is balance good(hc logs so not very significant)

balance as in meta, not the spec

the spec is bad

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[humble verge]

affli lock is not there

look at mythic logs for real balance tbh

people are just padding on hc

[haughty flicker]

boomkin barely beats aug in boss damage btw

[dapper cradle]

don't check cauldron mythic logs please

[subtle tundra]

sex cuckjunker

[humble verge]

destro tops cauldron tho

[haughty flicker]

destro is so funny on cauldron

[dapper cradle]

yeah I know and it's hilarious

[humble verge]

ok

[dapper cradle]

there's like 3 or 4 non destro logs on that fight

for top 100 at least

[humble verge]

i got raid in 11h, what to do inbetween?

[subtle tundra]

i mean, no? cause they are heavily influenced by the current lack of logs on the important fights and the many logs on shitter fights(stix)

[humble verge]

help me

[haughty flicker]

sleep

[royal lantern]

good, nerf both more

[runic hinge]

when do they take stix off all stars?

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/starfall-gif-2909646910056891152

thats why

stix is the worst boss

[humble verge]

yeye i get that, but even now looking at heroic logs, most people are just trying to ultimately farm 99s

[subtle tundra]

boss damage on gally kill

[humble verge]

i havent even bothered to do heroic lately

[subtle tundra]

boomie huge

[humble verge]

the only 99 i have is like on one armed bandit

and that was 2w ago

[neat flame]

I’ve seen this episode before

[haughty flicker]

i have no 99s

both of mine dropped to 98 before they locked in

[runic hinge]

i have 99's

on normal

[humble verge]

oh nvm

[haughty flicker]

i spend normal trolling on sub

[humble verge]

i have a 99 on vexie heroic too

i will never not have green logs on rik tho

[runic hinge]

normal is ethical cause adds die so fast you cant pad, or sometimes the fights dont even have adds

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[humble verge]

normal logs

[runic hinge]

[haughty flicker]

a couple weeks ago i was going to practice barrel timings for rik on normal

[humble verge]

coping on a git gud level

[fallen orbit]

guysi got 2 ring in vault i simmed it but how does versa mastery ring sim more than crit mastery ring

[haughty flicker]

only to hold cds and learn there are no fucking barrels

[humble verge]

you have 0 vers

[runic hinge]

lmao get got

robot says get vers

[subtle tundra]

@balmy condor check our mythic gallywix progress by hp

[fallen orbit]

9 % lolň

[subtle tundra]

notice anything weird

[humble verge]

how are you 9 vers

[haughty flicker]

vers op

[balmy condor]

good fight

[humble verge]

huh

[balmy condor]

gz on kill king

[humble verge]

wait wtf

[haughty flicker]

lmao reached p3 and he just died

good boss

[humble verge]

ure on gally already varas????

[subtle tundra]

no

lol

[balmy condor]

he's not on gally already

gally died

[humble verge]

oh

lmao

hahahaj

[runic hinge]

57 pulls?

[subtle tundra]

bro boss went from 64% to 0% in 6 pulls

or 7

[humble verge]

wtf

ok

dont look at our sprocket logs

2sec imma post

[haughty flicker]

i cant wait to get to gally and spend 200 wipes there somehow

i can feel it in the air

tonight

[fallen orbit]

😄 😄

[humble verge]

nvm, cant take a good screenshot on phone

[fallen orbit]

so should i trust bot on that versa ring instead of crit

[haughty flicker]

we've spent two entire raid nights wiping to rik barrels

[humble verge]

need to get out of bed

[subtle tundra]

a quarter of the fight is mythic level, then its hc at best

[haughty flicker]

its cursed

[haughty flicker]

dont do it

it only gets worse from that point

[runic hinge]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtletly.

[runic hinge]

WAit

!richard

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1356363029951938700/image.png?ex=67ec4b02&is=67eaf982&hm=0780c2bf8a3eda7b622f455daac5267c32f3074f79ab55d181e8de68faf2a64e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[haughty flicker]

ty friend

for the advice

[runic hinge]

i forgot which was which

[humble verge]

im on 3 or so hours of sleep

[haughty flicker]

ok yeah definitely dont get out of bed

not worth it

[humble verge]

im pissing rn

[haughty flicker]

maybe get out of bed for that

[humble verge]

2sec sending pic

[subtle tundra]

cool

[humble verge]

pranked

[willow rover]

Is there a reason why the icyveins recommended build is the old hybrid build with iron wire?

[subtle tundra]

cause theres 7 billion fine builds on assa

[humble verge]

because stuff hurts

[red schooner]

Varas is finally free

[subtle tundra]

shifting damage around

[subtle tundra]

[red schooner]

[willow rover]

Does indiscriminate charge have a cap of how many targets u can apply to

[balmy condor]

It’s 2 additional every time you cast

[subtle tundra]

uh what

[balmy condor]

So

Idk

How many times are you casting

[humble verge]

damn, didnt know u were a 21 world gamer varas

[willow rover]

Lets say they pul like 4 packs and pop lust, how many times should u be casting rupture/garrote?

[balmy condor]

5 ruptures and as many garrotes as there are mobs

[willow rover]

Got it ty

[urban iron]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[rotund oak]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[rotund oak]

do we get a half spark this week or its a catlyst charge

[balmy condor]

both

[rotund oak]

ive got a hero track bis wpn from raid,my 4p and alch stone

big stonks

gonna que 10s

[balmy condor]

me am neck crafter this week

[rotund oak]

next craft is a neck for me yeah

my mage is almost done

cant believe how lucky i am

[balmy condor]

next week is boots for me

[rotund oak]

ive done wpn,boots and waist on my rogue,now alch stone

played badly around my trinkets for a week but whatever

[haughty flicker]

i think i actually dont craft this week

since i have chest to spend crests on

have to sim tho

[sudden brook]

[rotund oak]

if u have wrist/neck/ring/back u dont ahve to

[haughty flicker]

[sudden brook]

[rotund oak]

well well if it isnt foreversubguy

[balmy condor]

if rik didn't drop dagger I would legit have nothing to spend crests on this week

[sudden brook]

I literally got rank 1 on mugzee after not playing it all tier

[balmy condor]

no myth track

[red schooner]

I'm gonna see what vault brings but it may be a craft week if my vault luck continues

[haughty flicker]

i got ml chest from vault and myth hands from raid

big week

[balmy condor]

you say that and yet where is the proof!

[red schooner]

At least I got some myth track gloves last week I can catalyse so that's something

[balmy condor]

photoshopped obviously

[sudden brook]

This me fr

[ionic fox]

I actually would have rank 1 Mug heroic if it wasn't for PI 😂

[balmy condor]

if you lebron then I'm bronny cause you literally just dunk on my ass 24/7 and I'm dogshit at the game

[uneven summit]

is signet and house of cards equal, like i have house of card HC i can take in the vault, but i see most run with signet, i guess cuz they got it myth

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

equal at equal ilvl yes

[uneven summit]

aight, thanks

[idle inlet]

is that still true if signet isnt giving mastery?

[balmy condor]

if signet isn't giving mastery then it gets beat by like 35 other trinkets lmao

[rotund oak]

sin parsing

but but sin is actual shit

[haughty flicker]

@balmy condor mr whippy can you rate my gameplay

best start to a raid night ive ever had

[balmy condor]

if I click this video and you don't get steamrolled by the boss spawn animation

I will be upset

[haughty flicker]

double rupture parry into instant mechanic

[idle inlet]

well i hope i dont get gear without mastery cuz i got my myth signet today

[balmy condor]

huge

[haughty flicker]

i shouldve went to sleep as soon as that happened

it did not get better

[humble verge]

ok

i actually bought fruit

idk who told me to but

[haughty flicker]

fruit is op

[rotund oak]

thats a good thing

i did

[humble verge]

i got some wadamelån

[balmy condor]

you see the way I downgraded on rik

[humble verge]

cause u know

my image

[balmy condor]

and cauldron

[humble verge]

not stereotypical ofc not

[balmy condor]

I'm literally him

worse every week

don't fuck with me

I'm the WOAT

[haughty flicker]

hes evolving

[balmy condor]

no one built like me

[haughty flicker]

kind of

[balmy condor]

I show up to the function doing worse than last week

cause that's the type of mfer I am

[humble verge]

i got u beat

rik

[balmy condor]

is bro dying

what is happening

[humble verge]

first week top, 2nd last week

ok so

im stupid u know

and i dont like the fight

[balmy condor]

and so you log in and do s1 damage

[humble verge]

i wanted to refresh mark, since it ran out before first aoe

yes

broblem?

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

you're so based

[humble verge]

i got 2 myth daggers

[rotund oak]

[humble verge]

what did u get?

[balmy condor]

I got 2 myth daggers, one with speed

[haughty flicker]

i cant wait to try to play sin on reclear once we finally kill rik

[humble verge]

ok

[haughty flicker]

and we still wont be able to kill barrels

[balmy condor]

and I gave the other away for transmog

[humble verge]

i got beat

fuck u

[balmy condor]

cause I'm a fucking benevolent soul

I'm literally a philanthropist

[haughty flicker]

incredibly humble too

[subtle tundra]

youre so hot

[rotund oak]

thats bold coming from a monk

[balmy condor]

my money moves are so indescribably generous I funded your public school without knowing where you live

[rotund oak]

havent u defeated ur passions

[mystic osprey]

hiya!

[runic hinge]

it was me

[balmy condor]

my portfolio so diversified trump said it's a DEI hire

[haughty flicker]

[runic hinge]

back to germany for you then

[balmy condor]

reaction to a what

[humble verge]

whisp is a wowhead DEI hire

[balmy condor]

not even true

[humble verge]

[balmy condor]

I'm not even a bisexual DEI hire

cause my boss is also bisexual

[humble verge]

guh

[balmy condor]

AND a woman

[humble verge]

lmao

[balmy condor]

literally cooked

[humble verge]

what

holy

SHE cooked

[balmy condor]

no she didn't, that would reinforce negative stereotypes about women that the patriarchy has subconsciously pushed upon society over thousands of years, maybe check yourself bud

[humble verge]

ok time to open my vault

i will get fucked

[rotund oak]

My ceo is a women too,i sympathize

[humble verge]

the ceo in the it company i worked for is also a womna

woman

[rotund oak]

the actual owner her man though

he facepalms everytime she shows up

[humble verge]

literally like 1 out of 5 IT women in the industry this side of the country

[blazing parcel]

5k Crit
1k Mass
+1 Luck
??????????????

Good ?

[humble verge]

thats ceo

[blazing parcel]

or ?

[humble verge]

sim ot

sim it

[humble verge]

rofl

[balmy condor]

if you aren't working for a woman in 2025

honestly you're just a bigot

[humble verge]

ok, time for my daily wirtual hour of background sound

[humble verge]

am i supposed to bark to these women

[balmy condor]

if they ask for it

[humble verge]

[balmy condor]

also did you know wirtuals first name is fucking Øyvind

[humble verge]

yes

im also norwegian

[balmy condor]

I had to google the O

[humble verge]

you know this

[blazing parcel]

Whats +luck do for Rogue ??

[humble verge]

bro cant even type Æ

Ø

or Å

holy

[balmy condor]

gives you +1 lucky

[rotund oak]

bergen bis place

[humble verge]

whisp is literally stupid

[balmy condor]

very top important

(the stat does nothing)

(it's flavor text)

[royal lantern]

im sorry

[ripe carbon]

it makes u backflip everytime as nelf i heard?

[balmy condor]

very lucky

[humble verge]

wait

u can backflip as nelf

i thought it was only front

[ripe carbon]

frontflip i meant

[humble verge]

bruh

+1 luck gives you the CHANCE to backflip

imagine

i would swap to nelf straight away

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/golubic-eye-training-tennis-tennisgifs-gif-20844959

this dude

looking at his hands

to figure out which way is frontflip

and which way is backflip

[subtle tundra]

i do

[humble verge]

what in the fuck are you on about

[royal lantern]

male worgen had backflips

[humble verge]

time to swap

worgen masterrace

[royal lantern]

but then blizz made it frontflips aswell

[humble verge]

FUCK

[royal lantern]

for no reason

disengage with a backflip was sick af

[ripe carbon]

i liked when u could moonwalk while running

the backwards run thing

[humble verge]

ok

maybe we win this week

[sudden brook]

Its the best mugzee spec by far

Guilds should play 2 rogue

[haughty flicker]

#onallfours

[runic hinge]

Is the post office a woman

[humble verge]

i was literally top dpsing first week on mugzee

with 2 set

boss is giga easy for us

[sudden brook]

well its like, mythic where it shines

[humble verge]

whats the difference on mythic tho

[haughty flicker]

execute spec good on execute boss

[humble verge]

i ignored jails

[sudden brook]

A lot is different

[haughty flicker]

[balmy condor]

I don't think the homie doug is a woman

[red schooner]

Same, still 6th on gaoler damage

[royal lantern]

they are happy if they have 1 man

[runic hinge]

Oh no I’m a bigot

[red schooner]

We have 2, our RL is not happy about this when we're on the boss that shall not be named

[humble verge]

do people like my loadout/build names, they get better the longer down you go

[real pike]

Hey guys what's the rotation for Rik barrels? Will the wowhead guide be updated with one????

[humble verge]

!rik

[prisma monolith]

Rik Reverb Barrels (and similar spread cleave in raid)

• Not your problem.
• Assassination is the worst target swapping spec in the game, and we have no tools available to deal with the situation of priority spread cleave. Caustic can reach sometimes but similar to fire mage, the boss needs to be on top of the adds, causing caustic to often be out of range.
• If you're truly hellbent on swapping to barrels, hold your nearest darkest night and just slam a darkest night envenom into them and pray. If you're quick enough you can also pool combo points/energy and cast a rupture on a barrel to try and caustic off of them. This still will not do good barrel damage, again, the spec is doomed for it
• Another possible option would be talenting into Crimson Tempest by untalenting Bone Spike and Doomblade. This CAN TECHNICALLY provide a bit of barrel damage, but the spawns need to be immaculate and any difficult spawns will just result in no barrel damage again.
  With all that, the best advice we have for swapping barrels:
• Swap to Subtletly.

[red schooner]

Fuck

!richard

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1356363029951938700/image.png?ex=67ec4b02&is=67eaf982&hm=0780c2bf8a3eda7b622f455daac5267c32f3074f79ab55d181e8de68faf2a64e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[runic hinge]

!richard

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923750073499648/1356363029951938700/image.png?ex=67ec4b02&is=67eaf982&hm=0780c2bf8a3eda7b622f455daac5267c32f3074f79ab55d181e8de68faf2a64e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[real pike]

[haughty flicker]

bro has a fucking ovinax build still

[humble verge]

didnt remove it