assassination

[nova aspen]

dungeon dependant surely

[subtle tundra]

late in the season when you know the dungeons perfectly, its pretty good to remove MA and subterfuge and go ttk + 2x lethality

[blazing kayak]

i rlly like my 2nd vanish...

my training wheels

[subtle tundra]

then play 2nd vanish

its a very small thing

gawk gawk gawk

[blazing kayak]

i love to hear that

[subtle tundra]

you will also hear him complain to his group

[blazing kayak]

2 vanishes it is

[subtle tundra]

a lot

about chaining

and shit

btw

[blazing kayak]

lol yea i bet

[subtle tundra]

which is a very very very annoying thing to do

to your group

and selfish

[blazing kayak]

ok last question, do i drop the cheat for elusiveness

[subtle tundra]

and slows the dungeon down

[subtle tundra]

no

not until you can play the dungeons well

and you know every mechanic and if it one shots you

which doesnt happen in 10s

ANYTHING MORE

[golden loom]

mastery flask or alchemical chaos?

[blazing kayak]

that is all!

ty

ive been using alchemical chaos

thats what the wowhead guide said that was posted in pins

[subtle tundra]

thats aight

id go mastery

[royal lantern]

chaos

[subtle tundra]

more consistant for aoe

and assa is the aoe

[royal lantern]

sounds like a Loser that doesnt highroll

[golden loom]

yeah I started using mastery when bleedmaxxing

but idk its probably all the same

[subtle tundra]

you really do not want haste proc in aoe

alchemical starts being good when you use potions

cause it gives more stats in potion than mastery afaik

but mastery should still be better overall

[golden loom]

maybe you can do some tryhard pre-pot thingy in like cinderbrew

and then swap to mastery flask afterwards

[subtle tundra]

yeah also use DM pre key to get the buff

dont forget

IM JOKING

[warm lantern]

guild market is booming, if you feel you're more benched than reasonable then find somewhere new fast so you dont fall behind, very many guilds never kick or demote players when they have to many, they just keep then along until they quit

friends, i need log analysis so give me funnier coloured numbers

[tawdry root]

It’s in Spanish, pestaña 1 means tab/page 1

[spice spire]

Ok

[gaunt quiver]

10 priory.
They tried:

[safe rose]

When do you play caustic spatter? generally only in aoe circumstances right? and internal single?

[warm lantern]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cVZFrBNAXpGwtdvm?fight=57&type=casts&source=19&view=timeline like this one, havent implemented dry shiving yet, but assume there is much other stuff i can gain alot on

[royal lantern]

the second there is any additional target ever at all

[dapper cradle]

Are you guys spattering on stix?

[safe rose]

okay

[royal lantern]

IB is only for fights that are really 100% st

[dapper cradle]

Not sure if I stay sub or play sin there

[safe rose]

Is House of Cards / Suspicious energy drink BiS for Rogue?

trinkets

[spice surge]

Pretty much yes

[safe rose]

Where do you get suspicious energy drink from?

[spice surge]

Delves

But theres like 10 different trinkets you can use that are about as good

Main thing is making sure you have an on-use for every 90s, so house of cards, transmitter or pvp badge

[safe rose]

Does it drop from a certian delv or does it have a chance to drop?

[spice surge]

All delves have the same loot table

[safe rose]

great

[nova aspen]

for mythic stix? prob sin over sub

[safe rose]

so chance isnt that low?

[nova aspen]

more funnel, more consistant add cleaving

[spice surge]

Oh wait were in assa, no you dont need a 90s trinket

[jaunty goblet]

Why every 90s, u mean 2 mins?

[spice surge]

Signet is really good

[nova aspen]

for heroic stix id say it doesnt matter

[jaunty goblet]

U definitely want splatter for stix

[dapper cradle]

Ya mythic stix

[jaunty goblet]

Even on heroic

[dapper cradle]

I’ll mess around a few pulls tonight as sin

[jaunty goblet]

But stix in general is just rng if u get balls or ur team brings in hyenes

[hardy dagger]

I'd say It does not really matter on mythic stix either

[nova aspen]

yea jann u could prob argue that

rogue is just bad on that fight anyway

[jaunty goblet]

How?

[spice surge]

Its not

[jaunty goblet]

Is it bad

[hardy dagger]

I think rogue is pretty solid on the fight

[wanton spear]

ct does work on that fight

[jaunty goblet]

Yall are capping

[hardy dagger]

It's just the easiest raid buff melee to bench I guess

[nova aspen]

well for the race they were not played, but i guess in casual raiding im sure they're ok

[hardy dagger]

But at this point bring the player

[jaunty goblet]

Not even worth mentioning rwf comps

[spice surge]

Well the damage you needed ranged to do has been nerfed by like 60%

Since the rwf

[nova aspen]

[spice surge]

Too many melee is still scuffed though yes

[royal lantern]

world first is not the real game, dont compare anything with that

[wanton spear]

comparing raid comps to rwf is almost negligable

[hardy dagger]

Play the ball mechanic and you win

[royal lantern]

and rogue eas benched cus they needed more ranged and rogue raidbuff is 1 of the least important ones

thats all

[spice surge]

And there no good rogue loot either

[nova aspen]

at least we're not DK

"grips raid buff"

[hardy dagger]

We ran double bdk so dk goodge?

[nova aspen]

i saw u when i was looking at wcl for carnage

[royal lantern]

well it is??

wdym with that lol

[red schooner]

DK good, more mobs for me to spatter

Makes me happy

[hardy dagger]

Catalyst legs Is the only relevant rogue loot so not great yeah

[royal lantern]

dks are not mandatory for grips for the first time since forever, and instantly throw a fit lol

[nova aspen]

rank 2 big boi

[spice surge]

Wouldve been r1

If i logged myself

But sectech doesnt count if the logger is more than 100 yards away

[nova aspen]

yea but they argued grips are totally useless this tier

when blizz promised every raid will want grips

they were not played at all

so now max thinks blizz will do something for DK

[nova aspen]

wait what

bruh the amount of bugs sub gets

unreal

[warm vortex]

Yea but like

Why

[nova aspen]

i wanna play sub for carnage i think

and sin for vexie

sin timings for carnage kinda shitty

plus the mark juggle

[subtle tundra]

bruh

its the first 2 bosses

AND WHAT THE FUCK YOU MEAN MARK JUGGLE

I SWEAR TO GOD

[spice surge]

21st man

[subtle tundra]

IF I READ THAT ONE MORE TIME

[warm vortex]

wHold on

Bm has something simmilar

[subtle tundra]

LLITERALLY EASIEST BOSS POSSIBLE TO SWAP MARK

[spice surge]

ye bear

[nova aspen]

juggle mark juggle mark juggle mark

xd

[subtle tundra]

HOW ABOUT Y'ALL JUGGLE MY NUTS

INSTEAD OF THE MARK

[red schooner]

u ok varas?

[nova aspen]

hey varas

no opinon if u play monk

ex dee

[royal lantern]

ok, that happens?

if we get a tier where gate is not that important aswell, should we also immeditly yell "LMAO WARLOCK HAS NO RAID UTILITY" or what?

[subtle tundra]

blud forgot about healthstones and summoning portal

[warm vortex]

Yea i can't find an example

But it's so funny

just

Bear

[nova aspen]

warlock healthstones are more valuable than gate imo

unless its a giga niche moment

[royal lantern]

and on dk people always forget AMZ aswell allright

[warm vortex]

The bear rn feels stronger than my fucking cooldowns

[nova aspen]

like that gallywix overlap

[warm vortex]

It's so insanely powerful

[subtle tundra]

cause it got omega nerfed after the 1 tier it was good

so now its a whatever button

[warm vortex]

Like in m+ runs it is competing with my other 2 pets

[subtle tundra]

i am bear

almost...

need to get hairy

[warm vortex]

Yea i play BM

Bear master

[subtle tundra]

im cute and soft like a bear

[golden loom]

I mean assa also shits on vexie

[warm vortex]

Do you cleave and/or apply a monsterous aoe DoT

[warm vortex]

I wish vexie could

Ok nevermind

Im not finishing that sentance lmao

[nova aspen]

making sure i start on the loggers side

[subtle tundra]

oh yeah aoe brain damage.

when i start meowing in voice during prog

(every raid night)

[nova aspen]

[royal lantern]

varas is a Quake alt??

[subtle tundra]

im the goat meower

[golden loom]

meow

[warm vortex]

Well sadly the bear does an aoe bleed, not aoe brain damage

so you are not quite a bear yet

but close

[golden loom]

echo are selling gallywix carries for 40m?

or maybe I just tuned in while gingi was trolling around

[spice surge]

Ye why wouldnt they. Thats what they always do

[nova aspen]

imagine buying CE for 40 million gold

sounds like something elon musk would do

[inner swift]

anyone else got this issue that in certain dungeons there is no voice for npc and bosses?

[golden loom]

yeah it makes sense, never heard the amount before though, pretty bonkers

[spice surge]

You get The Big G though

[nova aspen]

is that the mount

[warm vortex]

Whenver Ret is good i just

feel like malding

[nova aspen]

[warm vortex]

Do you guys know if mythicstats is reliable or accurate

[real pike]

Easier than court?

Cause I struggle(d) on both hehehe

[red schooner]

Way easier. Clash happens, swap

Easy

[coral ibex]

yea the clash lasts so damn long

feels like at least 10s if not more

i'm basically always consuming to mark my original target during my 1m kb and then swapping as soon as kb is done

[viscid spear]

I think I'm inting myself with terrible rotation

[golden loom]

bro retail animations are fucking dogshit with this

unplayable

[upper wraith]

WW monk needs a buff

[royal lantern]

kinda normal for early mythic carries

[static glacier]

this wouldn't be CE, its HoF right

[split veldt]

any of you do hardmode underpin yet

[real pike]

Yeah it took me a few fights to get the rhythm cause when KB lined up I'd have to finish KB and then get to DN before swapping but I've got it consistent now

[royal lantern]

HoF needs a guild

achievment is still CE

HoF is a Guild Achievment

[static glacier]

but couldn't you get your guild |Hof

[real pike]

Silken court trying to keep bleeds up on both and remembering the swaps with the amps was pretty rough for a monkey like me

[static glacier]

by buying a boost?

[royal lantern]

no

cus the majority of the group needs to be in the guild for that

iirc 17(?) people

@spice surge you are smart, whats the cuttoff again for something to count as a guild group

[spice surge]

Not sure, but probably 15-17

[subtle tundra]

its like 30 sec lol

[spice surge]

Pretty sure its 20

[bleak dune]

Hi Guys , iam confused and wanted to ask sth. With the Talent: Indiscrimate Carnage we spread Our garrote and rapture. So i got this but my question is : if i have like 5 or more targets , and Press 2x garrote will it spread to All targets or do i have to switch targets? Will it automatic put garrote to targets without it ?

[coral ibex]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[coral ibex]

[bitter solar]

Assassination is so huge rn daddy blizz gonna nerf us.

[quiet oar]

Wasnt the exploit kill 16 Chars, to count as Guild?

[bleak dune]

Thanks didnt know there is a tldr for it 😊

[cinder bone]

photo finish

[royal lantern]

aint even close

they gave you 33min, and sure as hell used that

[warm vortex]

Soz to ask again but how accurate is mythicstats

[manic coral]

does anyoe know if you are limited to one contract per char or 1 per account per week?

[lone ore]

is sub better than Ass in m+?

[brave stump]

[uneven plume]

Top, WS and rookery maybe

[slow tulip]

they are close, play whatever you prefer

[lone ore]

I like both, does sub play trickster? I kinda hate deathmark sometimes

[toxic sparrow]

Yes Sub is trickster

[nova aspen]

idk if archon is even accurate tbh

but it has all 3 rogue specs in A

for keys

[lone ore]

Ass is def up there, doing close to 3m dps pretty much every key

[slow tulip]

rogue is very good, just not the bis atm

[normal mist]

Only one of them is A

The other is S and the final one is not even good enough to be listed

[nova aspen]

yea so its not accurate then

[normal mist]

Sub is always S

[nova aspen]

this is what they have

[red schooner]

Outlaw shouldn't even be on that list

[nova aspen]

does outlaw trickster get uncapped aoe?

[red schooner]

Assassination is like perma A tier

[nova aspen]

outside of blade flurry

[red schooner]

Tbh

[storm forum]

yeah it starts with A

[slow tulip]

outlaw is good enough, ppl just cry

[normal mist]

Outlaw isn't even good enough to be on a tier list

[red schooner]

I don't see o tier on that list

[spice spire]

I do

[nova aspen]

outlaw the meme

[spice spire]

It’s the “o shit they’re running killing spree” tier

[red schooner]

[spice spire]

And then they kiss me for half a second with a circle and eat my ass

[astral plover]

Sin buffs when whispyr?

[nova aspen]

right now

[midnight atlas]

outlaw is O tier from

if i want to play outlaw well i need 8 hours of sleep, cardio and stretching + high bpm techno

[static glacier]

all this says to me is that everything is decent

[nova aspen]

yeah pretty much

except aug

[fallow canopy]

I should start using killing spree

[static glacier]

is it just me or is the cyrce's circlet upgrade mat not dropping for my alt

[subtle kiln]

Every 15 seconds yes

Enjoy motion sickness

[fallow canopy]

I'm more curious about the other features of the spell that quake mentioned

[subtle kiln]

Kill rares for a hour or so

and you have to do the storm weekly I believe

I don’t remember on the alts

[static glacier]

it doesnt drop anything but the citrines to go in the ring

killed like 7

[subtle kiln]

It’s rng

[static glacier]

just gonna do the questline

fuck wasting more time

[subtle kiln]

Oh. If that’s up you do that.

lol

some people can’t see the quests

So it’s legit rare farm

[static glacier]

feel bad for them

[subtle kiln]

it takes same amount of time

[static glacier]

im just doing quest between rare spawn times

[warm lantern]

uuuh is there a wa that can tell me to dry shiv?

or is it just shiv before the DN after dm?

[spice spire]

It’s that one

[static glacier]

also remember that dry shiving isn't always the play

if your KB would line up with aoe its still better to shiv during aoe vs shiving st for big dn env in lingering

[spice spire]

Raid

[haughty flicker]

dont care big envenom is big

[static glacier]

situation comes up in gallywix a lot

[haughty flicker]

L kingsbane nerds

W envenomchads

[onyx crane]

how addicted to mastery is sin?

[spice spire]

Sprocken log

[spice spire]

Quite

[onyx crane]

might as well just say mastery is the main stat....

[cinder bone]

Outlaw is fine, i managed to hit 2500 on it last season after getting bored of sin

[spice spire]

Okay not quite that

[cinder bone]

it is stressful though

[static glacier]

not really addicted

we like all stats with more mastery and crit

[onyx crane]

I am at 22k mastery

and the sims still tell me to get more

[static glacier]

similar to me then, you'll likely find yourself wanting more of the other stats

recrafting my crafted pieces with vers crit gives me small gains vs having mastery on them

[spice spire]

My sim is dying for haste rn.
Outside of that it still wants mastery even at 21k

[fallow canopy]

I'm at 25k with vers and haste going stronk

so its just whack a mole with mastery being the biggest mole ig

[onyx crane]

14k crit

little to no haste/mastery

[cinder bone]

Whysper talk to your boys at wowhead they have sin below sub for M+ tier list

This is an outrage

[misty holly]

No, shhh. This is how we get buffs rather than nerfs.

[golden loom]

what kind of sim are u sending that tells you what stats u want

[onyx crane]

I read that uwuwcutegirl as something entirely different

[lone ore]

same question

[haughty flicker]

i mean

if droptimizer or top gear is telling you to equip haste gear

you can kind of infer that you need haste

[spice spire]

Yeah

[golden loom]

useful

[haughty flicker]

big belt recraft

[onyx crane]

cool sidegrades bruh

[spice spire]

2k gains

[weak compass]

Brothers, for keys more or less

With amount or Mastery and CS need

And PI is usefull or waste for assa?

[golden loom]

well as you can see above, stats are a scam

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[golden loom]

as for PI, other classes benefit way more

[weak compass]

That why is ask

[spice spire]

It depends on the other classes

[golden loom]

that should be thrown on unholy ASAP

[spice spire]

Yeah that’s the easiest unholy angle

[weak compass]

Ye

And i see here that people are using 2+2p tier

[spice spire]

Until a decent ilvl ye

[weak compass]

Like this yeah?

[spice spire]

Closer to 660 on your tier pieces would you swap

[weak compass]

Like hero piece?

[spice spire]

Pins

For me it’s like 662 min

[weak compass]

Lol

[spice spire]

Even at 658

[weak compass]

Yeah i read it

[spice spire]

It still wants me to 2/2

It’s just an annoying simmer

[lone ore]

doesn't matter, higher ilvl in character screen = bigger peepee = more invite to groups

[golden loom]

at 3 pieces 658 + 1 piece 678 its a 1% loss for me 😎

[spice spire]

Pugging in the year of our lord 2025

(I’ve pugged two keys this tier don’t let me gaslight you)

[golden loom]

look at Arthur and all his friends

[spice spire]

I literally made a key server thinking it would have 15 at most

And it’s 56

[golden loom]

I've done 2 non-pug keys this season

[lone ore]

i got 99 parses in normal raid without listening to raidbot 🖕

[golden loom]

up from 0 last season 🔥

[spice spire]

People need the uwucutegirl

Or are you parsehunter this season

[golden loom]

parsehunter is in the 11.1.5 waiting room

need dinar for house of cards and I might try sub

[spice spire]

True

[rotund oak]

hunter 💀

[golden loom]

no my hunter is called uwuhunterr

parsehunter is my sub rogue

[rotund oak]

shocker

😂

[spice spire]

I hate your character names man

They crack me up

But holy brain rot

[golden loom]

[lone ore]

I called my rogue some random french words

[golden loom]

idk I am not creative with my names

[spice spire]

Dog all my toons are some variant of quake

[golden loom]

like the name I used for 15 years is stolen from a friend

[rotund oak]

well im here for u fam,it will only cost quake's OF page

giving away gr8 name ideas

[vocal cradle]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[onyx crane]

I don't have 4 set

still running 2 pieces from last season

(saying it like the patch is 3 months old, not 3 weeks)

[runic hinge]

which one is Quakincheeks

[spice spire]

None actually

Quakin is my shaman tho

[golden loom]

but also my current league accounts are named Michael Jordan, Tony Soprano and Aron Father (aron is one of my best friends)

[spice spire]

I mean I’m Makeitquake across like

Everything

[golden loom]

it is really funny to have raid leaders say uwu though

[indigo sphinx]

That is kind of big tech ngl, brb renaming to owchierogue

[golden loom]

my raid leader told me yesterday I am getting assigned to stuff so he can say uwu

[indigo sphinx]

Ahh so its a dps downgrade

[golden loom]

need to rename to NoMechanicsSteve

[rotund oak]

deliberately grief just to hear ur RL call u up on discord

a true legend

''uwu wtf bro''

[golden loom]

"UWU DO NOT SHOOT THE BEAM TO THE OTHER GROUP"

[spice spire]

Burguwundy

[strange python]

Wait until you find out my rogue is now called bombardilo

[rotund oak]

[spice spire]

Dog what

[golden loom]

BOMBARDILO CROCODILO

[indigo sphinx]

Just rolls off the tongue

[spice spire]

Exactly

[strange python]

BOMBARDILO CROCODILO

this guy gets it

I like it

[spice spire]

How would I know

[strange python]

Because it’s brainrot

[golden loom]

my ig reels is filled with Lebron glaze and top 10 italian brainrot lists

[spice spire]

That the lad named uwucutegirl would get the brain rot

[strange python]

Pure brainrot content

[wise whale]

Uwu watch your feet

[golden loom]

my goat

honestly I think IG reels has done irreparable damage to my brain

its legit insane what happens on that app

[weak compass]

TRALALERO TRALALA

[weak compass]

Same

Bro

[wanton hound]

Dafuq

[upper wraith]

Fuuuuuck me opened that at work

[wanton hound]

Same here

At the family table

[strange python]

You didn’t even open it with sound

That’s where the brainrot comes in

[normal mist]

It seems he was in the wrong discord server

We ain't monks

[weak compass]

Xd

[storm forum]

sim is telling me myth ring is worse than normal jastor's diamond, does that sound right?

[hazy sapphire]

How are these numbers for assassination?

[red schooner]

i mean probably fine, we don't care about secondaries that much

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[hazy sapphire]

Im currently specced as outlaw KiR rogue. I sacrificed all of my vers apparently to get to the haste breakpoint. And now im thinking of swapping to Assassin.

[gritty laurel]

AFAIK the only thing that matters is making mastery your highest secondary if you plan on using priory trinket, otherwise just do what the robot says

[warm vortex]

Why? Just curious

Outlaw seems aight atm

[toxic sparrow]

I think you'll need a bit more mastery there m8

[royal lantern]

and the robot will tell you too do that if you use priory trinket anyway

[warm vortex]

I asked the robot to sim my gear and it called me a slur

[severe meadow]

Fairly high haste imo

I have like 6% or something

And I’m pushing 60-70% mastery iirc

[hazy sapphire]

I was an outlaw KiR build

[runic hinge]

Stats are whatever

[severe meadow]

I don’t know what that means, outlaw is a sin

[runic hinge]

Secondaries are over valued

[severe meadow]

Which one?

[warm vortex]

All of them

[spice spire]

Only issue here would be if you had priory signet

Outside of that whatever

[hazy sapphire]

I do have signet

[spice spire]

No but let’s see the sim

[hazy sapphire]

Why is signet a Problem?

[spice spire]

Yeah so you’re likely proccing crit instead of mastery

Proccing crit bad

[hazy sapphire]

ELI5

[jolly vault]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[hazy sapphire]

Im 2 months into wow in general

[storm forum]

No one wants to see my 1.2 sim

[spice spire]

HUH

[jolly vault]

He has awoken

[severe meadow]

1.2?

[storm forum]

my rogue was in the dumpster last tier and got almost 0 upgrades last week

[unkempt helm]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[runic hinge]

signet procs your highest secondary and crit is less valuable than mastery during DM because you will have your vanish with master assassin giving you crit as well, DM doubling poisons and bleeds makes mastery very valuable

[humble verge]

hmm either im just proccing so many high crit envenoms or idk

[storm forum]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wUb44jvnMuTWKFxTQmaS62 oh it's actually 1.4

[humble verge]

just get the ring fr fr

you probably wont upgrade that shit for ages

[spice spire]

Yeah I believe it

[humble verge]

esp with your gear

[spice spire]

Also yeah your gear is rough lanille

Priest main still?

[hazy sapphire]

I dont have two daggers yet. Also, I traded out My mastery gear for crit haste gear, still in the bank. So I can just switch gear.

[storm forum]

yeah priest main still

[runic hinge]

Jastor kinda bonkers

[spice spire]

You changed..

Ever since you got rid of the dog pfp

Damn

[humble verge]

NOOO its rank 3 now

[storm forum]

[humble verge]

Sadge

[spice spire]

But in all seriousness I’m glad you’re back playing at least!

Missed u king

[humble verge]

well im glad to have an early 99 anyways

[storm forum]

yeah im back to doing casual normal/heroic on weekends and beeing a leech for my guild's last minute monday 10s

[humble verge]

actually first mythic 99 😤

[storm forum]

thats hype

[humble verge]

it wouldve been assigned r1

but it just didnt wanna "lock in"

in wcl*

[runic hinge]

did you add enchants so it wasnt actually 1.2

[humble verge]

idk

[storm forum]

actually, yes

[spice spire]

Hell yeah you’re just like Tony fr

[storm forum]

tony isn't a leech, tony is an honest m+ miner

[storm forum]

omg hi

[spice spire]

Haven’t ran with the man in a Fortnite

Miss him

But this weekend we correct that

[runic hinge]

I am too eepy to do anything today so I'm just hanging in dornogal

[storm forum]

i only logged on to get that vault ss

i should like, do delves or something though

[spice spire]

You’re both destined to be

[storm forum]

Tony needs to quit his job and raid with me

i'll give him free PI

[spice spire]

What I’m saying

[storm forum]

i should probably get back to work

[runic hinge]

Maybe soon Elon fires me anyways

Do you guys need a rogue that badly?

[royal lantern]

sorry, but you are not efficent enough

now excuse me, time to golf for the 6th time this week

[storm forum]

we did but we got like 20 good apps since i mailed you

[runic hinge]

Precisely gapping me in IO

[storm forum]

precisely quit raiding

[runic hinge]

ohhhhh

If things change with work and there's talk things could shift by a lot I would think about apping

[storm forum]

his push team is like 4/5 former CivD raiders

[runic hinge]

Might shift to a day job

[spice spire]

[storm forum]

our first good rogue app ditched us like 2 hours before the raid opened, and our current good app is having cold feet cause she might not actually wanna change guilds so maybe i actually just go back rogue this tier actually

maybe when disc gets taken out back

[runic hinge]

There's supposedly gonna be a change april 1st but we'll see if anything happens at all

[storm forum]

omg

i just remembered i have a dentist appointment april 1st

[shy creek]

Let me know if you still need this

[runic hinge]

Me and the gf's job would change to mornings

[upbeat cave]

If its ok, send me a DM? I would like to know where I can improve

[thorn fjord]

My trinkets suck and im reduced to playing super magnet... Do i hold till 30 stacks or just send at like 10-20?

Mega Magnet*

[spice surge]

Use it during lingering

[thorn fjord]

and if im playing sub?

😛

[spice surge]

When it doesnt interfere with your 90s trinket cd

[thorn fjord]

Prob just macro it to Env and Evis

My other trinket is a passive

[shy creek]

So to summarize from before

Vanish timing and just swapping deathstalker's mark properly

Dry Shiving properly which I posted the explanation from before

It also looks like you're not able to get improved garrote out as a result of the vanish timing

Whernever you hit vanish within DM you wanna hit garrote immediately after to get imrpoved garrote deathmarked onto the target

Your kingsbane need to be pooled around a bit better, if you're below half energy going into kingsbane, pool for like 2-4 seconds depending on where you're at and where your thistle tea timer is in order to ramp that to 50 consistently

Other than that, some non 5+ cp finishers which you just need to be careful about

[shy creek]

@upbeat cave

[upbeat cave]

Awesome, thank you mate

[unkempt lantern]

Is the caustic splash damaged based on hit box of mob or placement of toon?

[hidden torrent]

Yes

[shy creek]

Hitbox of mob

It doesn't work like blade flurry or nimble from outlaw and sub if thats what you're comparing it to

[spice surge]

Both

#assassination message

See this pin

But mostly the mob

[hidden torrent]

Yes it’s both sort of. That man is high.

Shame him for answering and not knowing.

[shy creek]

Man I didnt know they changed it this season

[spice spire]

Yeah it was like a week one fix

How dare you not keep up with every blue post

Wtf

[shy creek]

My bad

Thats on me gang

LOL

Whyd they even change this

[spice spire]

Bloodhound situations

More consistency

Idk

[vestal cliff]

0,5% dmg vs 250K HP what would you take

[shy creek]

damage unless ur dying

which on rogue ur probably not

[vestal cliff]

true

[solemn hill]

Is there a soft cap for haste ?

[dapper halo]

is it just me or does assa st suck or do i suck

[solemn hill]

its fine

[vestal cliff]

what do i press if i get a blindside proc on 5cp but im on darkest night? just ambush?

[coral ibex]

why wouldn't you press ambush there

you need 7cp to consume dn

[vestal cliff]

1cp wasted

doesnt ambush give 3?

[golden loom]

And if you crit its 2 wasted!

[vestal cliff]

rip

[golden loom]

Just like mutilate

But its a free cast

And you cant mutilate

[spice spire]

Yeah who cares tho

[coral ibex]

yup its cooked better reroll

[golden loom]

With blindside procced

[vestal cliff]

so this one cp goes to the abyss got it

[coral ibex]

do you hold a candlelight vigil every time you double crit with mutilate

[vestal cliff]

yes

[coral ibex]

since that gets you 8cp

[vestal cliff]

hurts my soul

[golden loom]

Honestly might be time to drop sealfate

[vestal cliff]

i do love my little red chubby combi pointis

[haughty flicker]

fuck combo points

i'll send as many to the shadow realm as it takes to get that juicy dn envenom

[spice spire]

I mean you should try to minimize

But like

You can’t always

And dn > 1-2 wasted cp

[coral ibex]

wait until this guy figures out that you send shiv even if you're at full cp during kb

[haughty flicker]

sometimes i press mut 5-6 times at max cp just to assert dominance

[coral ibex]

gonna have a full menty b

[storm forum]

Spin of knives to minimize wasted cp

[strange sleet]

dudes do you know if you can "block" the right click so it does not make you attack an enemy. I'm playing the SPriest with a new vertical mouse and I'm constantly changing targets by accident

Make it not select target or wathever

[haughty flicker]

i think theres an addon that can do that

or something similar to that

remember seeing people talk about it before

[strange sleet]

mmm ok, I'll take a look

ty

[haughty flicker]

also i had to look up wtf a vertical mouse was

looks silly but thinking about it, its probably pretty comfortable

[spice spire]

On 6

But 5 in this economy?

[storm forum]

I didn't pick rogue to not gamble on my generators

Ignore that I have 15% crit

[strange sleet]

It's different. It's harder to aim properly and stuff, but my shoulder feel way better in general. I got a zelotes t-50 off aliexpress like a couple months ago. https://down-my.img.susercontent.com/file/sg-11134201-7rbmp-ll8qt42nf4j071

it's a chinese brand I think so the quality of the buttons is not top notch but is not bad at all either. But it has macros, all buttons are programmable and it costed me 15€. Worsts things are: shit sensor with a lift off distance waaaay too high for me, and when you press right+left buttons, then the front lateral buttons do not register

[young pebble]

On crazy add fights like Cleft minecart boss, should I be banking vanish for the add spawns and then just garroting like rupturing like crazy or do I just get ruptures on five and then start fanning and CT'ing for max padding?

[gritty laurel]

depends on what your group needs, but CT isn't even padding there because 5 targets makes the boss get a huge CT as well

[static glacier]

Yo wtf

[static glacier]

Spreading rupture is prime funnel, gar moreso for damage.

[strange sleet]

pff idk... depends on how much time the adds last

[spice spire]

Yeah if the ads doesn’t last you’re not funneling

[static glacier]

Prio imo is ct > gar >= rup, but I’m a padder

[spice spire]

So you wouldn’t do rupture spread

Depends how grouped as well. But generally yeah Ct just cranks so hard man

[gritty laurel]

i think for that boss you can also bait the mobs into the minecart paths and he occasionally just wipes them out anyway

[strange sleet]

If you are running death demise, for padding, you kinda can use the vanish, spread some shit, CT... and then you CT again when the adds are low to steal maximum dmg from the others

[young pebble]

True but I want to pad so hard that it makes everyone else in my group rethink their existence.

[strange sleet]

Sometimes it's not about you doing more, but the others doing less 🙃

[young pebble]

The anti-bard.

[strange sleet]

Honestly the problem I have in that boss is that I kinda run out of energy

in the worst moment

which is always

SO I would love to have a couple ruptures for the energy regen

but they usually just die fast

[gritty laurel]

pretty sure assa has that problem with every boss ever in M+

[spice spire]

Nah big momma my goat

[gritty laurel]

ur my goat

[runic hinge]

There’s a few good bosses

First boss TOP I absolutely blast on

The rest of that dungeon sucks tho

[spice spire]

God I love top

[young pebble]

Did they fix the bug where Sudden Demise will outright just kill your enemy on the PvP boss?

[spice surge]

Yeeee

[spice spire]

Yes

[waxen oyster]

Im the type of person to CT affix orbs

for more ct tick dam on boss

[golden loom]

thats just good tho

[waxen oyster]

Oh i know

its just funny how 5 target ct tick

is more than emp garr

sometimes

[cyan dew]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[manic quartz]

bleed or hybrid build for priory ?

[red schooner]

depends on the key level

[dapper halo]

ill ask something very stupid and obvious, am i supposed to do 7pt envenoms always

especially when i have 6pts pooled

[royal lantern]

no

[balmy condor]

5cp unless darkest night

[royal lantern]

5+ for finishers

[dapper halo]

oh

[royal lantern]

darknest night is forced max cp cus thats what it needs

[dapper halo]

so when dankest night, then 7pt

[royal lantern]

yes

[modern moon]

do we run 5/5 tier set

or

[coral ibex]

if that sims best for you

[runic hinge]

you can because you can just get different belt bracers boots and rings and have good stats and the robot will say nice things to you

[modern moon]

im 2 set now

i got a helm to catalyst

do i catalyst it

[coral ibex]

ask the robot

[runic hinge]

that's a sim question

[modern moon]

or is the absolute bis having an off piece

[coral ibex]

survey says ask the robot

[runic hinge]

there is like 80 combos that sim within margin so

maybe more

aint absolute bis tbh

[coral ibex]

absolute bis is the friends we made along the way

[golden loom]

absolute BIS is 8 piece tier 3, tier 2,5 chest, bwl neck, aq40 cloak, gressil, iblis, slayers crest, KOTS, strikers mark, loatheb ring

[agile locust]

For Mugzee, if asked to go into wall, can we cleave from outside if the boss is close enough?

[red schooner]

tell your raid leader that you can caustic both adds from within the wall

[azure owl]

Hey guys what would be an Assa rogue question that would be really hard to answer?

[red schooner]

though i'm fairly sure you can hit boss with caustic cleave from within the wall, damage is going to be stunted however

[agile locust]

But I should go in if asked?

[red schooner]

*from outside the wall

[agile locust]

Rather than cleave from outside?

[red schooner]

why are they asking you to go in?

[agile locust]

Limited melee I guess

[red schooner]

like, we don't do great at hard target swapping, if you go in the wall you're going to stop almost all damage on the boss and do negligible damage to the adds

so its just an overall dps loss for no benefit

[golden loom]

if you get told to go into jail, go rogue

[severe sparrow]

weird thing about the jail adds on mug is that when i stay out on boss and im trying to see if im in range to be splattering both jail adds, i only ever see dam numbers popping out of one

even if im pretty sure im hitting both

[red schooner]

then get a ranged to go in, you'll do more damage to the jail adds from outside than within

[fallow canopy]

or alternatively just do what the raid leader says, its not a big deal anyway

[golden loom]

yeah its a bit weird (probably cause its not intended to work, or who knows) but its all up to boss position

[red schooner]

caustic hitting both adds going off of your main target is going to be much better than the minimal direct add damage you'll do going into the jail.

[golden loom]

also "we dont do great at hard target swapping" is a big understatement

[coral ibex]

the jail walls block cleave i thought

[red schooner]

caustic works

[golden loom]

yeah but spatter is weird there

[coral ibex]

[runic hinge]

Where my dad went

[severe sparrow]

yeah but this is when the stars are aligned, im right up the boss's ass, the boss is right between the jail cheeks, im gapping everyone else on meters during the jails right near the opener - so like i must def be hitting both

just like

[golden loom]

this is what I sent to my raid lead after I saw the top log sin rogue do most add damage while not even going into jail once @coral ibex

[severe sparrow]

i wish i could tell i was hitting both

[golden loom]

yeah idk, first week I did decent damage on them, this week I did 0 spatter on the jail adds cause my tanks were cooking up something with the boss position

[coral ibex]

we'll see how it goes

[severe sparrow]

yeah our dps keeps breaking the walls and then getting blastered by the frontal cuz idk, so our tank pulls the boss out a little bit after a few sec

makes me sad, but it's better than someone dying off the bat

[golden loom]

yeah my tanks took boss to wall so that it frontals into the wall or something

[coral ibex]

my RL highly values one shotting heroic to get straight into mythic prog for the week so asking to change strat at all and possibly risk people wiping due to change is tough

[golden loom]

but also jail adds get 1 shot anyways

[coral ibex]

ill just bring it up for mythic mugzee

[red schooner]

i mean, even worst case you get no caustic, are you really bringing that much going into the jail? neglgible add damage changes nothing

[coral ibex]

[golden loom]

I am curious though how it plays out on mythic mugzee

[red schooner]

I'm all for helping with adds and stuff, but yeah, it just does not play out well for us at all

[golden loom]

I wonder if exile got damage on them

[red schooner]

On the times I've been put in the wall due to being chosen for it, the adds are dead by the time I get rolling on them

So its just... okay then

[sterile ore]

what should our stats look like ?

[golden loom]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[sterile ore]

im like this rn

[red schooner]

if in doubt, sim

secondaries don't matter a whole bunch, they're all okay for us to an extent

so... trust the robot

[sterile ore]

tbh with sim the Junkmaestro is better but with the Spyglass i deal more

[balmy condor]

when are you casting it

the junkmaestro

[coral ibex]

max showed it on stream the other day

assa doing NOTHING to goons bro

[golden loom]

was exile going into jails or on boss

[coral ibex]

they brought assa 100% for execute dam

[balmy condor]

correct

[spice surge]

He was only hitting boss

[golden loom]

ah

[balmy condor]

exile had me sim execute numbers and stuff

and then determination was assa gotta be the move

[sterile ore]

on max charges

[golden loom]

idk the spatter through the wall is so weird anyways

[balmy condor]

yeah okay that'll do it

don't do that

cast it during lingering darkness

[golden loom]

its only spatter and ignite that work tho right?

[balmy condor]

yes

[spice surge]

Ignite is also sketch

[coral ibex]

the mage has to be inside the jail to get ignite on tho

[spice surge]

They have to have ignite up

[coral ibex]

then they can cleave off while out

[spice surge]

For ignite to be refreshable

[golden loom]

yeah I would say doing like 40% of what mage ignite thingy is doing isnt bad though

[sterile ore]

don´t you all feel kinda nerfed compared to s1 i mean to be top dps wasnt a big problem these days

[golden loom]

8m damage is more than 0 #staybig

[coral ibex]

no i feel like i perform exactly the same just with more ilvl

other specs just got buffed

if being top of details matters to you i guess you should reroll

like asap

or join a worse guild

[golden loom]

details is all that matters

[waxen oyster]

isnt mugzee weird where you cant

spatter off the goons

but you can off boss

[marble hemlock]

not as far as im aware

psychic link doesnt work either

ignite is the only "cleave off of target" that works, and thats because it works differently than caustic/PL

[royal lantern]

you can

if he stands bettwen both prisons and you are outside, spatter cleaves both

source: literally just did it 6min ago

[marble hemlock]

mh aight

guess it depends on how close hes being tanked/prisons placed etc.

[royal lantern]

ye, cant spread them THAT far

[golden loom]

source: (the convo above)

but yeah the position needs to be good

[waxen oyster]

Yeah so with average tank players

aint happening

[severe meadow]

I was cleaving off one add last night, couldn't seem to get both

[waxen oyster]

I was more saying i dont think you can spatter boss

while main hitting the goon

[severe meadow]

I don't think so

But on the outside you can def spatter the 2 adds from boss

[waxen oyster]

Oh nvm it does

checked my log

[severe meadow]

I'm never in them to even try really

Except the one time I got targeted on the first set

[waxen oyster]

Idk rl be dumb

xD

Worst part about playing rogue is 95% of people dont know how this class works

[thorn thorn]

5% get paid to know

[manic coral]

is top gear bugged or something?

like my sim 20 minutes ago is telling me completely different stuff from now and i fail to see how it has changed

[balmy condor]

link

to both

[manic coral]

1 sec im simming it one extra time

[balmy condor]

all good

[manic coral]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gkC8SRfCdVQvGE2PLLtwPW

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/16cxAmcgmZinXLM2Hpj3GD

[balmy condor]

one has internal the other has caustic

just for starterts

[manic coral]

ye 1 sec

nvm turns out im stupid

ty anyways

[balmy condor]

np

[devout fiber]

which gear should i be crafting?

i have crafted a wep

[balmy condor]

then your second embellishment

[devout fiber]

boots?

[balmy condor]

sure

[devout fiber]

Either boots or neck it seems

[golden loom]

Cant embellish neck with anything useful

[devout fiber]

ah

[manic coral]

or yeah nvm i just remembered

how come the neck sims worse now that i actually have it

but in a droptimizer earlier it was 12k upgrade?

[golden loom]

Sockets?

[balmy condor]

max upgrade?

[manic coral]

yy it was max upgrade

nvm it was due to spatter aswell xd

[humble verge]

next week ill surely get a r1 on carnage

[manic coral]

or nvm it was fucking not

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-aware-twitch-forsen-emote-gif-25354609

[manic coral]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gkC8SRfCdVQvGE2PLLtwPW

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oz9JbUy3p91fUxvBzXALx4

[golden loom]

I am taking it on sunday

[humble verge]

i believe

im like

40k dps off r1

😭

im r28 out of rogues

[golden loom]

I will adhd jump on monkey side, get stunned and die

[balmy condor]

doesn't have sockets mate

[humble verge]

tho idk

it felt like our took a bit longer than it shouldve

the kill time

almost 7 minutes

[static glacier]

Real talk

[raw fjord]

For Lethal Dose, and other assa rogue talents that just state "bleed damage" does that just mean rogue bleeds or all your bleed effects, such as zandalari Kimbul bleeds?

[golden loom]

Our kill last week was 7:22

[static glacier]

Who sims IB

[humble verge]

6:54

[balmy condor]

rogue bleeds

[humble verge]

i see some guilds do like

[static glacier]

Unless you’re on lockenstock or w/e his name is

[golden loom]

Everyone?

[humble verge]

5,5min

actually insane time

[static glacier]

Bro it’s one fight

Better to simply with spatter

Sim*

I think simming a build you’re not going to use is bad faith

[raw fjord]

aw, alright

[balmy condor]

and in general when things says buffs X, like shiv buffing nature, that also is only rogue nature damage

[static glacier]

Like if ur progging the st boss sure

[golden loom]

Idk its not that deep

[raw fjord]

Alright thank you

[golden loom]

At the end of the day you wouldnt use different gear on a internal bleeding or spatter fight

[charred shard]

is there a certain amount of haste i want for m+? i thought crit mastery was the best in m+, but sim for dungeonslice tells me to gem mastery haste

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2k2xEuYx6djYa64E7CQf4F

[runic hinge]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[sinful night]

should i leave my 2 piece nerub until i have 4 piece of new set?

[humble verge]

yes

[runic hinge]

Sim yourself

[humble verge]

but also sim

[sinful night]

sim takes time i have alot of pieces and i use free sim so i can do all combinations

[red schooner]

sim will also give you the best answer

[static glacier]

Might do, hard to say tbh

Not really tried seeing if changing that point fucks with sims much, doubt it

Still I don’t wanna have someone ask me why I’m simming with a talent I don’t use

[humble verge]

just do a bunch of sims at the same time, thats what i used to do

[static glacier]

When I win something

Bro yesterday I was asked why I’m not simming latest instead of weekly bc of gally ring

[golden loom]

I mean it sims the same situation cause spatter isnt doing anything in a 5 min patchwerk

[humble verge]

im simming nightly, i used to sim weekly

[golden loom]

Also spatter is just damage from your single target damage

Idk

[static glacier]

Bro in df

I was asked why I simmed with a specific flask that I got from a sim string from here that dealt with a bug or something

And they ended up simming my entire bag and found that the platinum star band from algethar beat what I was using and accused me of cooking the sims

I had it in bag for a quest and didn’t even enchant it, let alone use it

And it became a massive drama fest

[humble verge]

who in the actual fuck asks these kind of questions tho

[static glacier]

It’s why I don’t take any chances anymore

[humble verge]

gotta be mental

i only tell people "just sim it"

then move on

[golden loom]

I mean yeah I would not deal with anything like that

[static glacier]

Bro they spent hours going through and simming over eranog ring going to me instead of a guy 60 dps behind or some shit

I was in London away from pc by many miles

And dealing with this shit on phone

To this day I’m memed about it xd

Ever since that day any controversial loot I say give it to the other guy idm

[golden loom]

I had full gear from pugging last season anyways, loot council just slows me down 😎

[static glacier]

I regretted that scenario so much

[humble verge]

idk

i got a free dagger from LC

or more so from Rik

[static glacier]

Like now I post the sim publicly and ask people to check before I equip if something seems off like gally ring being 45k

[humble verge]

man

i actually had a 10k dps increase in my bags i didnt even know i had

[static glacier]

Loot barely matters, social ties are a lot more important

[static glacier]

I got flamed for not knowing it was an upgrade despite it simming as a downgrade when it dropped

I blame that stupid dmg proc ring from rep at the start of df

[humble verge]

gally ring should inherently be an upgrade for everyone but

then again, why flame

[static glacier]

The story I’m saying is from df

About eranog ring

[humble verge]

ah

still, why flame :D

like honestly

[static glacier]

Unironically I think the guy was autistic

[humble verge]

i wasnt even simming before actually raiding in SL

[static glacier]

Like not insulting

[red schooner]

aren't we all

[spice spire]

I figured it wasn’t insulting

[golden loom]

Just give loot to good players

Fuck the sims 💯

[humble verge]

YES, GIVE ME ALL THE LOOT

[spice spire]

You wouldn’t fuck a sim

[golden loom]

Time to load up sims 3

[humble verge]

icl

im #5 in the guild w ilvl

felt like i got nothing from raid tho

[static glacier]

A bit, this guy was extra though

[humble verge]

says the guy who actually has 5 mythic pieces +2 crafted items

[static glacier]

Top gearing every combo in someone’s bag the next day while in a call

And gossiping and being scared to talk to me until it became a “thing” is ridiculous

Loot was super transparent, I was on the council and I always said biggest upgrade gets it (given they won’t replace)

[humble verge]

i dont think ive actually replaced anything ive got yet

[static glacier]

Like bro if somethings off ask me when the loot is assigned

[spice spire]

Idk loot gets sketchy in guilds

[humble verge]

well besides my belt

[static glacier]

I was an officer and easy to talk to :/

[humble verge]

since i got a 665 from raid, but i had a hero with socket that simmed better so i just maxed that :3

[static glacier]

If I knew it was that deep I’d say have it bro

[spice spire]

I mean I was GM and had to deal with it

Had a rogue reroll claim dibs on next eranog ring - same tier

We go to heroic, get it, he wins.
Clear heroic go mythic it drops there and I was next in line

[static glacier]

My policy now would be anyone being funny about it is 1 warning then any more instances or bitching = out

[golden loom]

Had a priest gquit my hardcore guild cause he didnt get Atiesh prio over mages

[static glacier]

Diabolical

[humble verge]

maybe its time to use my crest on my myth track legs

[golden loom]

Im still sad about having to take a hero track item from week 2 vault

[humble verge]

WHAT

[golden loom]

Had 3 myth track trinkets in vault, all god awful

[humble verge]

😭

wait

the last one aint myth track

wouldve had bis dagger in myth track

😭