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np
we missed timer on a 13 motherlode today by like 20 seconds
with I think like 9 deaths
was very silly
shibbity shooby you slayed that booty
that was a random but i'll gladly take credit
im too ashamed to show what class i was playing
Is it pink
lisonna plays me

God that’s a bad question to ask
this might be the tinies thing I've ever seen
i tried only getting one pixel but i got a couple

I think the medium difficulty is a good thing this tier, sure, Gally probably couldve been tuned better, but last tier was a guild blaster 9000 -- for the health of the game and the raiding scene they couldn't afford to have another like that
I enjoyed following this season. Bit underwhelming for gally - not sure why blizzard wouldn't start harder, then tune down - so they obviously got it wrong
But i liked the fact the guilds had to figure out how to do it - that part can be fun for them I imagine
You also have to consider that the race started a week "earlier" this season with heroic and mythic coming out together, gear levels are much higher than they would be normally by this point in pure calendar time
Gally seems like a pretty insane fight, alot of credit due to the skill level of the players. Your average CE guild will not be able to knock it down in 100 pulls IMO
Max said on stream before it was sarkareth difficulty
And that he wished it was harder so they could have won by more 😂
do you think this note is more or less likely to get me invited to keys
it worked
Depends how kinky the leader is
leaving notes is op
i remember i got into a rasz pug by saying i'd pay 100k if i died to mechanics lmao
????
the boss randomly fucking melee me in intermission
tell your tank to stop playing the one armed bandit game
That’s what she said 
The real self report is that your cheat death didn’t proc so what else killed you first? 😛
we don't play cheat death in m+ though
Who is this we
Huh go figure
When did that change? Cheat used to be way more popular didn’t it
uh
elusiveness has been the play in high keys ever since rework at least
maybe
I know it’s been the play for pushers but thought cheat remained the default pick for the rabble
I mean yeah but 10's at this gear level
I Got the same strat
just ufcking heal me
is not a walk in the park
we are not the same
especially with the current pug community

i dont respect the game but i acknowledge it
unless youre with a premade
I’ve been hurt too many times 💔
last season i spent an entire saturday trying to make/find a group, 3 keys only which all were bricked
thats what i mean
i don't have the available playtime to risk that
struggling to get 8 x 10 done in a week alongside raiding
ill do 4 at best
im trying to do the bare minimum so i dont get benched
but then myth priory trinket in my single slot so 
i really hate having to do m+ to gear for raid
id have a more fun time doing rated pvp
I don’t mind, I like both, but night time gamer only and on a 2hr time dif from the rest of my guild
Ok guys real question.. felle asleep at my moms place after the Bar night. How do I convince my Gf I wasnt out cheating…? 😅
Last night*
Introduce her to your mum
they hate eachother
get your mother on the phone
Well that sounds doomed anyway tbh so good luck
Sounds unhealthy man, why doesn’t she trust you
It’s not that sus unless your mind is already wired that way imo
But I’m just one guy maybe I’m out of touch
Gonna call my mom on speaker to put her mind at ease 🤣
worth swapping to 2set or should i go for 4 set ?
2+2 is much much much stronger
even if my s1 2set is s uper low ilvl?
I mean in that case you just gotta sim
Would they increase our ST at all in the next patch? I had good dps against mobs in priory but as soon as we hit the boss, I even got feedback it was slow af
fixing sin st would most likely require a talent rework
also quite frankly, being 100-200k behind other dps is a drop in the bucket of the total group dps
either the whole group is suck or you are making rotational mistakes and/or undergeared
sin being behind on single target is also balanced out by having very large aoe
so like that's just how it is
if they buff our boss damage we also lose some aoe
there's like 5+ things that all need to change and will feedback back to raid balancing and tuning
and then that'll need to be balanced again
and it's just big messy
I personally think the whole boss damage thing is also a bit overblown but that's a long conversation 
if boss st was so super critical, you would wait for cds to come back up
having more aoe just makes the key go quicker so you could have time to waste doing that 🙂
the only time boss damage matters is for damage amps
sometimes I don't have deathmark until boss is 40% and I'm doing tank damage until then but then I hit deathmark and it's like totally fine
couldnt you like buff spells that hit like a wet noodle on st rn and add reverse target scaling to them
could take rupture as an example. buff it quite good and make it do less damage beyond 4 targets
its counterintuitive as sin is the dot spec
you buff rupture and then what
but with the way it is now
you have to nerf envenom?
so no caustic
like changing rupture like that gg you just fucked legit every raid fight over
and probably irreparably damaged sustained aoe too
I mean it would obviously need a shift elsewhere aswell
Well yeah that’s the whole point though
You can’t fix it with just a “oh buff that”
You have to change and tweak and add effects and rework
Yes and no
So that’s the idea I’ve kinda been peddling for a while on how to fix a great deal of things
The thing about buffing poisons while elegant for the current issue of boss dam in m+, is that it comes with a lot of nasty stuff blizzard has been seemingly trying to get away from in terms of sin aoe and it makes things a lot less obvious in terms of like what the design of poisons are
Cause like okay, let’s say you buff poisons and instead of 6-7% of your single target it’s like idk, 15?
People want around a 10% buff for assa st in keys sure whatever
Spitball
So you gotta find 9% worth of damage from poisons, that’s a 150% increase from now
should i just sim ST for m+
That messes with dashing, with ttk
Dungeonslice
It messes with just envenom as a whole because now you’re applying so god damn many
And they all hit
But you can’t buff the dot of deadly
Cause that would genuinely aoe
So you have to buff the instant damage part, which then makes dtb omega giga strong again
Which got it nerfed in the first place
Like yes buff poisons, I agree, smart move
But you can’t buff poisons by the amount needed to fix st
Well then you just play zoldyck forever and your aoe craters
Would zoldycks being perma picked Brick aoe that hard?
Yes
Like i feel a tradeoff in aoe has to be made anyways
Theres no way atm you just buff sins st it would be omega broken
Even if it was possible
so we let them rework sudden demise into a stacking buff for your next deathmark for every mob that died with one of your bleeds on it
You either give up scent of blood/sudden demise, which would be killer, and that’s why we don’t play the cleave build
Yeah surely they’ll give you funnel
Or you play bleed build and you don’t play dtb in which case you buffed poisons 150% with zold and then immediately turned around and nerfed it again by not taking dtb
Both options are shit
Yeah ur right
Idk I don’t see another point where you could buff st while not effecting aoe besides poisons
its not really funnel
I like poison buff, but it’s not a plug and play
If deathmark gets stronger with targets around you dying
It’s probably the closest answer
I guess it’s not really funnel per say because mobs die
But then pooling also comes back and idk if blizzard wants that
But it’s mobs die = more damage
Same same but different
And they definitely do not like that
I don’t think they are against that
The way they reworked feral from what it was in df
i constantly out damage people in ST by 200-300k dps as assa i dont think its whineable but theyre just pugs so they dont know their rotation anyway
Don’t think they’re opposed to it
I mean maybe they aren’t, but they keep dancing around it all the time
well also depends on if you have your cds
if they have theirs
and everything
yea ofc
also ye pugs
It’s because the playerbase is very split
They changed feral to more pooling than before and some people were pogging and some people like me quit
I mean just because the playerbase is split doesn’t mean you as the developers can’t make a decision
Going halfsies and doing neither isn’t really great
Yeah they went from 15 feral players to just the 12 racist ones trolling dreamgrove
Unlucky
I personally think pooling needs to go OR be omega worth it
That’s only balance
I swear feral chat is the nicest place ive been
From all discords
We’ve had very different experiences :)
Balance is fucking crazy
Really? The fuck happened
is dropping TTK like a minimal loss in ST
When was this tho
Like I was in there all DF and it was incredibly nice
10.2
Amirdrassil
I know what 10.2 is but WHAT
I’ll dm
That was my most active time wtf
It’s old lore
Aight
since is possible to drop one slot of ur gear set what are we looking to drop? get every piece hc and next week we can catalyse.
Helm or chest
how about you drops your pants real quick
We’re lucky if we don’t get nerfed lowkey
If we stay exactly where we are now, it’s a good day
Prepping us for future dooming
god it would be so funny if we got nerfed
Damn whispyr
i'd be down for it just for the meltdown
What arr you saying
personally my bet is we dont show up in a patchnote for the rest of the patch
Imagine they just revert the ct buff from earlier
did you learn nothing in the last years?
we dont even need nerfs for a meltdown

I’m saying we’re good
Agree
ty man!
Nerf them till we shine
its definitely possible
Well I think right now we’re right on the cusp of being good enough to take a slap on the wrist
ww is going to get ass blasted
But they nerfed enha shaman like 5 timers during s1 and he was still top dps 😄
I feel like you know more than we do
There’s luckily specs stronger that are for sure getting nerfs
I only know what has historically happened
They buff from the bottom up, and nerf from the top down, as is reasonable
we need blizzard to do one round of tuning then go afk
At some point they gotta have a cut off though of like what doesn’t get nerfed
MY WW>........sd.aksm,dflop jkasop
IMO we’re right on that line
We have dk swapping to warrior and enha swapping to WW 😄 i say fuck them up
I think best case scenario is we get nothing and they nerf the top and buff the bottom
And like the middle shuffles around
But we’re still in the top end
idk i hope they tune our m+
it didnt work this time
Our as in ww or are you a rogue again now
panda rogue
I don’t think it’s likely we see m+ changes we had a yap about it higher up but making assa st in m+ good is a lot of changes and talent reworks and shit realistically
yeah after this tier im about to go to the promised land, quitting
Much more likely they just leave us as aoe monsters and st shitters
And then worry about it next expac or something 
Like does assa st in keys get tuned, or do any of the hero talents for rogue get a rework
Or do they fix killing spree on outlaw
Or outlaw mastery
Like there’s much bigger issues in rogue itself that could use attention realistically
Assa doing a little bit below average boss damage in m+ is pretty far down the priority list I would imagine
pretty sure sub has had that before
sub design gets so random sometimes
Yeah perma shadow dance was the idea behind Kyrian
Do mini-game, infinite cdr basically
remember when 7cp was a strong reward...
hi
hi!!
In big AoE scenarios in M+ (brewery first pulls / mechagon first pull etc.) - how many garrotes and ruptures do you guys apply before going into cooldowns?
Amb gar rup rup gar gar ct mut gar dm kb envenom
How many is that
3+2+2+2 is uh 9
classtunings coming soon? oO
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what if we make it that adrenaline rush has less energy generation now, and you need 25% mastery to get its old value back

Assuming you playing subterfuge?
tyvm, and on 5 targets you would replace the extra gar for FoK?
How big of a dps loss is it to drop twist the knife to get iron wire?
whenever i have 1 shiv for kb, do I shiv before kb or shiv for the last 8 seconds of kb
The last
If were raiding and M+ is it better to run one of both authority of the depths and radiant power for weapon enchants?
probably 2 of whichever is better for the more important content to you
!up
my gear broke
first pull on first boss
my dagger broke during damage amp
on mythjic
xd
and we killed the boss
had to equip s1 dagger
lol
stole by winning it on roll you mean
yes
big steal
Then theres a chance vv becomes op with caustic lmfao
!talents
!up
Which trinket should I swap it out for my skardyn's is 639 and 626 anub is this okay to listen to radibots sim? and sawp out skardyn's?
One that I got
skardyn
literally just said so
Thanks!
Me to the starbucks barista when she asks for my order
this is the vibe i hope to cultivate when i work long shifts
ill make yalls latte art exdtra cute if u stutter like a sillybilly
WHen playing with supercharger in m+, would you still not shiv in 5+?
You don't play around supercharger. That's what's been said here.
#change_sin_rogue_tier_set
If u accident get mark on a bad target do you just focus that target until it dies
Guess that never happens to u guys
In what context
dont have to focus it until it dies, just until you get DN
What’s dn
Da noodle
darkest night, youre welcome

Das Nacht
are u pugging mythic LOU with a community with alts or something

or was it heroic
wasent me
it was a guildie doing first boss mythic
What’s DN? 
Why are some playing without “subterfuge” and “without a trace” ?
idk
Hi varas
steve jobs 
do you always use a buffed gar as first gcd after vanishing in your kb window or do you try to aim for a env and gar afterwards? unsure if gar is only buffed as the first gcd out of stealth in st spec or the whole 6 seconds from improve gar talent
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u have it for 6 seconds
but usually you just cast it as first cgd anyways cause the current garrote is about to run out
thank you
wait since when is WaT standard in dungeons
I thought it was shite and only good for niche uses?
New weapon is pumping let's go
Not since subterfuge changed
On its own it's always been an ok talent. The problem in the past was that it cost a good 4 talent points because the talents in front of it were useless
Therefore the cost of it made it shit
now, subterfuge is no longer useless and is good
so, picking up WaT is not a 4 point investment
Therefore it's a reasonable pickup
Not required but fine
Something weird with one of my sims. A lower ilvl item sims higher than it's higher ilvl version 🤔
Is there a Tricks of the trade Macro that doesn't need focus target?
Mouseover?
!tricks
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
thanks all makes sense
I've been using some old build without MA also
tbf the extra charge is gonna feel nice for reapplying for those pesky chain pulling tanks
Guys i am simming 4p vs 2+2 and i see that 4 is better with the 2 items from 639 to 655. I have read that they would be better farther up. Am i doing sth wrong ?
🔮
For me its jus that subt is too good, entering a pack from stealth only to get enviroment damage and not be able to apply mark...yikes
Linking the sim would help
Has shadow step on gallywix been fixed ?
No
yes i am saying that at 658 they 4p is way better
Sim > general statement. Also, I think if you'r edoing bleed build, 4pc is better sooner
i thought we were supposed to get another spark piece this week? but there is no worldsoul weekly
We were supposed to get just half a spark but they hotfixed another half given to you from the catalyst earthen dude, so we have 2 sparks total
so basicly only 1 full spark?

you got 1 full spark last week. this week we got another full spark
so 2 full sparks
You should be able to get 2 full sparks. The 2 fragments from last week. The free fragment they gave us and 1 more fragment from the 100 titan disc quest
solo a greenie again 
i only had 1 full spark. half from the quest, half one from worldsoul
From last week?
and 1 half was in my bank. so dunno where i should get the 2nd half
just making sure i am not doing sth wrong basically coz it was weird, maybe its the bleed build
Have you done the titan disc quest from this week?
yeah
1 from Titan Disc quest, 1 from World Soul, 1 in your bank, and then you get an extra one from the dwarf next to the catalyst
Did you talk to the guy next to the catalyst machine?
so 4 fragments i.e. 2 sparks in total
OHHHH. the map didn't show the quest
He had 1 to give you last week and another 1 to give you this week
ty

catalyst is next reset?
has anyone done underpin ??, need tips if anyone has
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hB6FJekbakqX7ffYqekgDm
Something weird with these sim options?
Single target with bleed build? 1 min 30s sim
you are simming a 1,30 min patchwork with a m+ build and all raid buffs 
Oh sheet. I been simming wrong all this time. I just copy paste my simc - but im usualyl in m+ talents
Thx, need to fix that - that'll be annoying. But besides that, do you see the gear options? The neck items higher ilvl give lower dps?
willing to bet both of those necks would take your crit over your mastery
which would fuck with priory
Not even that. The same neck - at a lower ilvl, sims higher, than the neck at ahigher ilvl?
also why are we simming 1:30 randomly
i dont know - isn't that the default? What am i supposed to be simming? lol
yikes, ok - thx. i been doing it wrong al lthis time, haha
and dungeon slice timing?
ok ok, ty. time to resim everything, haha
is there a way in raidbots to select talent set for the sim? Or do i have to change spec ingame and copy first?
You don't have sockets set up for your choices either
that is madness, show me the ways
do low content, kill enemys with sudden demise at 35% by burning all cds
and then do tank dmg for the boss cus you HAD to use all cds for the enemys right before a boss fight that would have died in 10seconds anyway
shee man, i cant find a guild since i only have pug experience and no CE
jokes on you i do tank damage on bosses anyway
based and real
parse in heroic and you can easily get into a mythic guild
maybe dont get ce first tier but its definitely doable, especially as a rogue since nobody fucking plays this class
i have several top 100 in the world parses bel
well i didnt reach out, i did put my profile out there
but i dont seem to be getting invitiations

Why is nobody bringing food to me, I didn't order anything but I said that I am hungry
every guild ive been in has reached out to me, but also coming in and saying you cant find a guild after not reaching out is pretty hype
fair enough
just do what i did, be a social in a guild that mythic raids, wait for raid team to implode, get drafted into raid team to fill in numbers 
or just be proactive and apply to guilds
i mean it kind of backfired cos i went straight into kyveza and court prog
see i was smart and just didnt play last tier
bonus points because it means i never had to play with transmitter
i just refused to use it
Does caustic splatter reach on cauldren, i've kind of not really paid attention and assumed so, we are taking them on mythic tonight, assume we cleave at intermission?
Fight is largely ST, isn't it?
intermission just used to swap Deathstalker's, I would have thought.
u take spatter
oh wow 😮
ib is worth very little, so even the bit of cleave you get in clash is worthwhile
I see
ye the way i understand it, if you can get even a tiny bit of CS utilisation, its worth it over IB
its insanely easy for sin to take caustic, basically if anyone is within range ever its probably worthwile
Does anyone know? Like I don't want to have to switch specs ingame, each time. I see the talent section, but that seems to just compare talent builds? As opposed to select 1 only?
there is a way ive just never messed with it
Can't seem to deslect "active"
Wdym
Sorry not specs - but talent builds
You just select a different set of talents
I think what hes asking is for instance if hes in m+ build but wants to select ST build, you can't deselect m+ build and will be stuck doing sims on both builds
But then it comes up like this?
Yep, thx - this
mainly an issue if you're away from game
And whats wrong with this
or just ignore the option you dont care about
limits the number of combinations you can do
It halves what I can do, for one
Just dont sim gem combinations 
But you can manually edit the simc yes
Just copy the talent string from the m+ part of it and paste it in your other talent section at the top
ooh, interesting
is there any difference between ascension on offhand vs mainhand?
No
Okay, that seemed to work, thanks! Not as nice as just selecting a talent build. Would be nice if you could just select one, instead of having one permanent. And if you wanted to sim multiple, then just select multiple. Thx 👍
Good evening, for heroic one-arm bandit, what strat would you advise? Should I be Dpsing the adds? I feel they die too fast, maybe focus the 3rd and dot the 1st two?
cleave from boss
Dot the add and stay on boss?
Don’t dot the add
I thought it'd be worth throwing out a rupture just for the energy gain
Does the add live longer than 8 seconds?
given my raid teams lack of people swapping to the add, sometimes. Though it shouldn't.
Is it not even worth throwing out a rupture right before it dies?
you see: big rupture energy regen
you don't see: cp and energy you spent on a rupture instead of envenom
more envenom is a good thing
yea so don't spend ruptures unnecessarily
but i like to live under the delusion that i'm a dot class sometimes
i want to believe
Lol Ty guys
Does anyone have a vod of a good parse on the Second boss on mythic?
Not really much to do on cauldron, no?
It’s just CDs on cooldown, play caustic, have big uptime
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Is it possible to put a [known:spellID] in this macro? i tried but doesnt work
In case of what
is singing citrine best in slot for M+ assassination even if my sims show another 658 ring is better?
Probably have an insane amount of mastery
I want this macro to not work when I play pvp
Yes
Ye so the circlet is bis, but it’s a ring that gives basically nothing but mastery and you have a stupid amount of mastery
So it sucks
Get other stats and it’ll be bis again
If you mean the shiv/tea macro, it’s good in pvp as well
so trust the sims is what you're saying? thanks.
Yes
But if you want them separate in pvp you’d have to swap the macro out for the spells
nah not a ton, just keep uptime basically, get splatter in intermission
Ye
got baited by my discord scroll, happens way too often
thought that was recent lol
are yall still playing bleed build for +10s or do you feel hybrid started to take over by then
anyone knows why rik reverb mythic drops two pillars on melee instead of dropping one on ranged? it makes no sense
two pillars almost perfectly stacked
Was fine in 10’s imo
maybe things with healers? iirc it has happened the other way sometimes with pala and monk heals
being ranged and melee at the same time
anyone else stuck in floodgate hell?
i pretend to not know about the trinkets, it's a happier life waiting for them in vault
got warbound eye of kezan, my warrior eating well by not even being played 
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK
y'all weren't kidding, Reverber really is "if they aren't in range of caustic, it's not my fucking problem"

(tbh switching targets as Sin when they get melted in like 5 seconds just kinda doesn't work)
yup, stopped trying to reverb swap, just sent caustic, life is good
(It’s like that on every boss)
ur latest pin, is 4 set actually better now than 2+2? 😮 thought 2+2 still outperforms
4 set is better with max hero/early myth track gear yes
And it’s always been like that
aight, cool
Idk why people keep thinking we never play 4 piece
Do I call my guilds rogue a traitor for rerolling sub
Surely theyll buff the tier and/or nerf old tier so people dont get confused 
Surely yes
the sims in Fuus spreadsheet suggest 2+2 is better even at myth 🙂 probably why
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
they used to yes
Probably more of a lack of reading
Gurantee this is what a good % of people see in the pins
Okay well “used to” before the patch even came out or what
Cause before the 4piece was like
An actual bonus
Sure
nah until like a week ago or something, not 100% sure when but wasnt that long ago it was updated


Yeah idk I don’t open the sheet so I would have no idea
huh

And it’s been late hero/early myth track since
Idk
People just not looking at good info I guess
maybe ill have to go sub
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
damn you know this shit
good thing we dont care and just sim
when taking both SB and sudden demise, is it worth spreading rupture for damage or is it still just a SoB conduit? not sure where it stands after bleed buffs
I’m getting knowledge gapped
21k mastery dr cap
I will keep this in mind for the future
(Forget in 3 minutes)
Scent of blood
me when i cap
If you throw a couple extra out though not too big of an issue
Buffs made it closer
me when i use alch chaos
But it’s still just kinda bleh
As opposed to when you don’t?
finally

im actually
Gz
You dont even wanna know what hot garbage im using
Show the class
im pretty hot
655 
do transmog you ape
jfc
or im sending royal to your house
my reaction
bleh
still need hero shoulders/gloves to catalyst next week
this first trinket hc is better than floodgate one hc, right?
I haven't simmed the difference, but possibly
Afaik
yeah, i think so
I got lucky and got one from an 8 bountiful
guys
I imagine vault too tho
I tried to help my friend and explain the wowhead rotation prio etc
yeah, right, vault and delves
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have heard some ppl get it back at max
but some definitely get it back at base ilvl
and have to relevel it farming the events
Bro hearing background raid audio is so funny
Like it sounds like our rogue's kid is destroying his household
thats not worth it i feel like
lol
Hmm wait
If I Delete it, i can just restore item i guess?
won't work for what you're trying to do
afaik you have to get a brand new ring from the island
if you want it to work for the upgrade cheese
i meant like if i get it and its a low ilvl
can restore the other one (and say F the cheese) lol
Ok thanks G
Thanks I have cancer now
Double shiv isn't the new tech?
16 target arterial precision and you just pray to the gods that it bounces to targets that don’t have shiv yet

60 deaths lather
its actually crazy
im being forced to go sub

only cause we somehow lack damage on rik adds
just let me play assa dude
that is 1st boss
raid
I know it’s a joke

I wouldn't play sub unless they did a complete rework
just say nah
"i think we're at the point where we might need to replace you for someone that does more add damage"
surely that works
are people in your raid just giga-slacking on adds or something?
on heroic rik our fucking warrior had less add damage than a healer 
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the ussual "we have people that suck and look for excuses now"
yes :D
the thing is
rik is literally just the boss
where assa sucks ass
if you want me to spend like 2 hours learning a spec for 1 boss
where ill go back to assa straigth away on stix
idk man
this man went full tunnel vision
oh shit are you most of the people on my raid team?
Imagine a warrior tunneling boss instead of finding a way to pad by any means necessary
Crazy shit
no, im just the spec where doing add damage doesnt really do anything
arent we all :3
I just checked logs on that fight and I did more add damage than a ret pala. sir, all you have to do is hit divine storm
and you pad on adds
what happened
cauldron stops me from randomly shimmying left and right between every gcd
it kills me inside
so do we have meme statistics about cash out uptime?
this might be my greatest kingsbane window ever, thoughts? @balmy condor
Just got minature roulette wheel what does +1 luck actually do? does it influence the way we get winning streaks?
ensures you have a good vault
items broken
not sure if thats sarcasm or real lol
ask yourself this, have you had a bad vault since getting the item?
exactly
Sin is probably better in PSF than sub due to scent of blood hey?
you are the only rogue in your raid?
Being able to focus the prio target/mini bosses
yes
the other rogue actually went back to his main, monk
is there someone who can replace you easily on the bench
hm idk
if u say i cant play sub or somethin
sandbag your sub parses
rofl
im gonna test out sub tomorrow and see how it is
if not ill just "TRY" to talent around the adds i guess
its easier in raid than m+ at least
tho i feel it doesnt really matter
will never be chill like assassa tho
which neck is that
ah for sub
Easy to get yeah
But the sockets cost 5k honor and 13k gold worth of mats
You can’t use normal socket items
Something a lot of people miss
It’s a good option if you have nothing else at all but like
I bet an equivalent ilvl crit/mastery neck with 2 sockets sims better
have u seen the boe one
Insanely expensive too
id buy one but sims are liking me to have more haste
:D
Sub sims want haste wtf
oh for assa i mean
Oh right yeah
I’m just gonna craft eventually I think
If vault doesn’t force me into one before I get next spark
Other benefit of crafting is that it makes it easy to tweak stats via recrafting depending on other drops
None of this “oh I can’t equip this upgrade because I lose too much haste” etc, just a recraft neck easy
And yeah rings are kinda locked in this season
when simming for M+ is it better to sim for 6 targets @ 1 min? or dungeon slice?
the floodgate trinket is playing a big part in crit going down the ranks in stat prio i think
Yah it’s uptime is insane
Dungeon slice
ty ❤️
I have like 7k crit and it’s still forcing me to stack mastery
have u got eye of rezan? i dont but i wonder how sims will be then
Yep I hit like 24k mastery with chaos flask and my sims still like it
No I run prioriy and flood trinket
ya same
does cinderbrew have a tight timer? other then some of these guys having pretty mid st dmg, I felt like everything went smoothn and we didnt have much time left, after timing it.
bee boss can take ages if it heals
dont think it healed. but yeah after some more reflecting the bosses took waay too long I think. They had pretty horrible st dam. but maybe it was just the class? I was playing with arms and retri
You have worse st than them
all the bosses except last i think can take longer if not done right iirc
So yah. It was probably really bad
On bee boss, I send on pull and do bees/barrel by myself the entire fight because no damage outside of CDs 
they also didnt know how to do that taunt trick, which really took some time away form us
probs. I was 1st on 2 of em
Well, there are two pure ST fights and two funnel fights
Hopefully you won on the funnel fights
I won 2x funnel and ig also the first one. forgot abt that one. and got a close second on last boss
What specs were your other dps
Ret arms
yeah
he wasnt that good tbh
but I was mostly looking at my dmg, and it was quite low. but I just figured that the majority of the reason, was just that the bossfights took sooooooo looong
That seems normal for current ilvl
What do you think it should be?
not uncommon to beat a sim
well then the sim is busted
is that everforged in your offhand?
it shows you a median

did you recraft it?
yeah? i think so why
if its a recrafted 675 one, swap it to your mh slot
oh, fair, didn't recognise the icon!
disregard that
idk i understand that the sim has variance
but i dont think i played close to the variance
esp with downtime
and i got stunned by drills atleast once
all i know is that
you can just open this and look
on my demon hunter you never beat the sims
not even on your god pulls
rank 1 logs dont even beat sims
im really suprised of that variance
and how are u simming 2.2 mil?
and im simming 1.8?
huh
im sub
Just proc hard and proc often
sec let me check
im really suprised to see that spread
i feel like assa is pretty consistant
welcome to wow
get KB parried. 
this has never happend to me now
over 2 seasons of raiding
i also try to not stand infront of the boss
queen prog loved a kingsbane parry for me
I think I got parried more on first 2 mythic bosses today than entire season 1
it happened 2 pulls in a row once and i almost just alt-f4'd
shadowstep kb and maybe take ticks of the poison
my gear broke on first boss mythic my dagger went red during ky Deathmark kingsbane
or have a trickster rogue in the raid
i had to swap to a season 1 dagger after noticing 20 seconds later
Shush, don't put that juju in the air. Kb can't be parried.
I swear thats fixed cause we had one in the raid today
So you are telling me it dropped off at the same time as I did my giga envenom
Despair
had to fish for a dagger
put the season 1 dagger in the maindhand
for the remaining 3 minutes of the fight
I had a last boss meadery once where my oh dagger broke midpull, ended up just spamming poisoned knife for combo point generation. It was a sad time.

how much are u guys simmming on sin
those that are 660 with 4piece
like im wondering if im 200k+ bheind or what
555 with 2+2, 1.939mil
kinda weird
*655
Can I do a crafeds droptimizer with the embellishment on those crafteds? Cause this is simming new wrists without embellish and i would like it to sim it with embellishments
?
is elemental focusing lens poo poo on assa?
you can add crafted items with embellish to top gear
Did you run talents on the sim with spatter or internal bleeding?
How do I do it
use the on on #tc-research or just use the new finder in raidbots
bleeding
Thanks king
okay that's my other suggestion ruled out
if you are too lazy to copy paste the one from tcx
let me
resim maybe something was wrong
it seems really low
okay
i had battleshout off
i think
that seems more like tit
it
ye, much more in line
meanwhile dh sim
but i think havoc is over simming by like 100k atleast
beating the robot is impossible
elemental focusing lens bad for assa?
no
all embellishments are terrible
i have lens for assassination and simming ascension with the armor band is only 0.2% better
thank yo usir
np <3
1.97m w caustic (2p + 2p)
im down bad
trying to buy lfr tier
to get my 4piece
apparently elon musk won this lfr piece and wants it badly
4 PC tier if u have 2 piece from old isn't good. U should do 2 and 2
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on st and aoe?
Yes both. Least according to my Sims of it
It’s ok it’s worth for transmog
Is anyone in here good with logs that gets purple/orange parses as assassin that could dm me please
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