#assassination

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manic sphinx
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kk

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thx

balmy condor
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np

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we missed timer on a 13 motherlode today by like 20 seconds

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with I think like 9 deaths

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was very silly

slate crown
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shibbity shooby you slayed that booty

haughty flicker
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that was a random but i'll gladly take credit

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im too ashamed to show what class i was playing

slate crown
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oh I thought that was you

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it's ok I'm mostly play shaman rn

strange python
balmy condor
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lisonna plays me

haughty flicker
balmy condor
strange python
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God that’s a bad question to ask

balmy condor
haughty flicker
strange python
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I can’t click it on mobile

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Gg

balmy condor
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jarvis

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enhance

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oh no

haughty flicker
zenith cedar
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I think the medium difficulty is a good thing this tier, sure, Gally probably couldve been tuned better, but last tier was a guild blaster 9000 -- for the health of the game and the raiding scene they couldn't afford to have another like that

manic sphinx
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I enjoyed following this season. Bit underwhelming for gally - not sure why blizzard wouldn't start harder, then tune down - so they obviously got it wrong

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But i liked the fact the guilds had to figure out how to do it - that part can be fun for them I imagine

zenith cedar
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You also have to consider that the race started a week "earlier" this season with heroic and mythic coming out together, gear levels are much higher than they would be normally by this point in pure calendar time

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Gally seems like a pretty insane fight, alot of credit due to the skill level of the players. Your average CE guild will not be able to knock it down in 100 pulls IMO

buoyant herald
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Max said on stream before it was sarkareth difficulty

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And that he wished it was harder so they could have won by more 😂

haughty flicker
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do you think this note is more or less likely to get me invited to keys

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it worked

buoyant herald
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Depends how kinky the leader is

haughty flicker
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leaving notes is op

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i remember i got into a rasz pug by saying i'd pay 100k if i died to mechanics lmao

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the boss randomly fucking melee me in intermission

desert pasture
winged quail
buoyant herald
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The real self report is that your cheat death didn’t proc so what else killed you first? 😛

balmy condor
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we don't play cheat death in m+ though

buoyant herald
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Who is this we

balmy condor
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the vast majority of the community

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elusiveness is just way tankier

buoyant herald
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Huh go figure

balmy condor
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yeh and that

buoyant herald
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When did that change? Cheat used to be way more popular didn’t it

balmy condor
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uh

haughty flicker
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elusiveness has been the play in high keys ever since rework at least

balmy condor
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aberrus maybe?

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whenever they buffed elusiveness

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idk when that was

haughty flicker
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i think it was with rework

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but maybe not

balmy condor
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maybe

buoyant herald
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I know it’s been the play for pushers but thought cheat remained the default pick for the rabble

haughty flicker
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i dont press feint anyway

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waste of energy

balmy condor
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I mean yeah but 10's at this gear level

haughty flicker
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just ufcking heal me

balmy condor
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is not a walk in the park

haughty flicker
balmy condor
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especially with the current pug community

vocal seal
haughty flicker
desert pasture
buoyant herald
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I have not pugged once tbh

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This season

haughty flicker
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pugging 10s is hilarious atm

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you either 2 chest it or die 90 times

buoyant herald
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I’ve been hurt too many times 💔

desert pasture
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i somehow find the biggest animals puggin

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then my wowaudit shows 0 timed keys

desert pasture
buoyant herald
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thats what i mean

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i don't have the available playtime to risk that

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struggling to get 8 x 10 done in a week alongside raiding

desert pasture
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ill do 4 at best

buoyant herald
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i might be in that boat too

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i only did 1 last week

desert pasture
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im trying to do the bare minimum so i dont get benched

buoyant herald
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but then myth priory trinket in my single slot so OMEGAKEKW

desert pasture
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i really hate having to do m+ to gear for raid

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id have a more fun time doing rated pvp

buoyant herald
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I don’t mind, I like both, but night time gamer only and on a 2hr time dif from the rest of my guild

tired oyster
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Ok guys real question.. felle asleep at my moms place after the Bar night. How do I convince my Gf I wasnt out cheating…? 😅

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Last night*

buoyant herald
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Introduce her to your mum

tired oyster
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they hate eachother

buoyant herald
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She can vouch for you AND that shows your commitment

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Oh shit ok

desert pasture
buoyant herald
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Well that sounds doomed anyway tbh so good luck

desert pasture
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oh

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uhh

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did you try explaining the situation as is?

tired oyster
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Hahah im cursed

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Gonna try, doubt she’ll believe me though

buoyant herald
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Sounds unhealthy man, why doesn’t she trust you

tired oyster
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She does, just wied I didnt call and just slept away from home last night😂

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Wierd*

buoyant herald
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It’s not that sus unless your mind is already wired that way imo

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But I’m just one guy maybe I’m out of touch

tired oyster
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Gonna call my mom on speaker to put her mind at ease 🤣

slow helm
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worth swapping to 2set or should i go for 4 set ?

balmy condor
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2+2 is much much much stronger

slow helm
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even if my s1 2set is s uper low ilvl?

balmy condor
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I mean in that case you just gotta sim

slow helm
grim jay
pastel cradle
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Would they increase our ST at all in the next patch? I had good dps against mobs in priory but as soon as we hit the boss, I even got feedback it was slow af

blazing pumice
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fixing sin st would most likely require a talent rework

balmy condor
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yeh

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there's not really a good solution to that

blazing pumice
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also quite frankly, being 100-200k behind other dps is a drop in the bucket of the total group dps

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either the whole group is suck or you are making rotational mistakes and/or undergeared

balmy condor
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sin being behind on single target is also balanced out by having very large aoe

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so like that's just how it is

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if they buff our boss damage we also lose some aoe

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there's like 5+ things that all need to change and will feedback back to raid balancing and tuning

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and then that'll need to be balanced again

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and it's just big messy

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I personally think the whole boss damage thing is also a bit overblown but that's a long conversation KEKL

blazing pumice
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if boss st was so super critical, you would wait for cds to come back up

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having more aoe just makes the key go quicker so you could have time to waste doing that 🙂

balmy condor
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ye

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I'm ngl, doing 12's and 13's so far the boss damage isn't even all that bad

blazing pumice
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the only time boss damage matters is for damage amps

balmy condor
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sometimes I don't have deathmark until boss is 40% and I'm doing tank damage until then but then I hit deathmark and it's like totally fine

grim jay
balmy condor
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so a talent rework then

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and also like how would that even work

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mutilate?

grim jay
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could take rupture as an example. buff it quite good and make it do less damage beyond 4 targets

balmy condor
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oh god

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that's a mess

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might've picked the worst ability for that

grim jay
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its counterintuitive as sin is the dot spec

balmy condor
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you buff rupture and then what

grim jay
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but with the way it is now

balmy condor
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you have to nerf envenom?

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so no caustic

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like changing rupture like that gg you just fucked legit every raid fight over

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and probably irreparably damaged sustained aoe too

grim jay
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I mean it would obviously need a shift elsewhere aswell

balmy condor
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Well yeah that’s the whole point though

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You can’t fix it with just a “oh buff that”

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You have to change and tweak and add effects and rework

strange python
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What if they just buffed poisons

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Genuine question

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That wouldn’t brick aoe

balmy condor
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Yes and no

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So that’s the idea I’ve kinda been peddling for a while on how to fix a great deal of things

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The thing about buffing poisons while elegant for the current issue of boss dam in m+, is that it comes with a lot of nasty stuff blizzard has been seemingly trying to get away from in terms of sin aoe and it makes things a lot less obvious in terms of like what the design of poisons are

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Cause like okay, let’s say you buff poisons and instead of 6-7% of your single target it’s like idk, 15?

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People want around a 10% buff for assa st in keys sure whatever

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Spitball

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So you gotta find 9% worth of damage from poisons, that’s a 150% increase from now

wild thorn
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should i just sim ST for m+

balmy condor
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That messes with dashing, with ttk

balmy condor
balmy condor
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And they all hit

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But you can’t buff the dot of deadly

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Cause that would genuinely aoe

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So you have to buff the instant damage part, which then makes dtb omega giga strong again

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Which got it nerfed in the first place

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Like yes buff poisons, I agree, smart move

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But you can’t buff poisons by the amount needed to fix st

strange python
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What if zoldyks amped said poisons by 150%

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In addition to what it does

balmy condor
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Well then you just play zoldyck forever and your aoe craters

strange python
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Would zoldycks being perma picked Brick aoe that hard?

balmy condor
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Yes

strange python
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Like i feel a tradeoff in aoe has to be made anyways

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Theres no way atm you just buff sins st it would be omega broken

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Even if it was possible

grim jay
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so we let them rework sudden demise into a stacking buff for your next deathmark for every mob that died with one of your bleeds on it

balmy condor
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You either give up scent of blood/sudden demise, which would be killer, and that’s why we don’t play the cleave build

grim jay
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spread the word

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and the glorious idea

strange python
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Yeah surely they’ll give you funnel

balmy condor
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Or you play bleed build and you don’t play dtb in which case you buffed poisons 150% with zold and then immediately turned around and nerfed it again by not taking dtb

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Both options are shit

strange python
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Yeah ur right

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Idk I don’t see another point where you could buff st while not effecting aoe besides poisons

grim jay
balmy condor
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I like poison buff, but it’s not a plug and play

strange python
balmy condor
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It’s probably the closest answer

strange python
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I guess it’s not really funnel per say because mobs die

balmy condor
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But then pooling also comes back and idk if blizzard wants that

strange python
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But it’s mobs die = more damage

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Same same but different

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And they definitely do not like that

strange python
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The way they reworked feral from what it was in df

wild thorn
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i constantly out damage people in ST by 200-300k dps as assa i dont think its whineable but theyre just pugs so they dont know their rotation anyway

strange python
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Don’t think they’re opposed to it

balmy condor
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I mean maybe they aren’t, but they keep dancing around it all the time

grim jay
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if they have theirs

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and everything

wild thorn
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yea ofc

grim jay
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also ye pugs

strange python
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They changed feral to more pooling than before and some people were pogging and some people like me quit

balmy condor
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I mean just because the playerbase is split doesn’t mean you as the developers can’t make a decision

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Going halfsies and doing neither isn’t really great

strange python
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They did and lost a lot of players

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Don’t think they liked that

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Tbh omegalul

balmy condor
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Yeah they went from 15 feral players to just the 12 racist ones trolling dreamgrove

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Unlucky

strange python
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I personally think pooling needs to go OR be omega worth it

strange python
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I swear feral chat is the nicest place ive been

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From all discords

balmy condor
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We’ve had very different experiences :)

strange python
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Balance is fucking crazy

strange python
balmy condor
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Long story

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But feral is like below pre-rework fel hammer for me

wild thorn
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is dropping TTK like a minimal loss in ST

strange python
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Like I was in there all DF and it was incredibly nice

balmy condor
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10.2

strange python
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What

balmy condor
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Amirdrassil

strange python
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I know what 10.2 is but WHAT

balmy condor
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I’ll dm

strange python
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That was my most active time wtf

balmy condor
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It’s old lore

strange python
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Aight

magic fossil
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since is possible to drop one slot of ur gear set what are we looking to drop? get every piece hc and next week we can catalyse.

balmy condor
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Helm or chest

sharp viper
grand trail
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Where sin buffs

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Can't wait

balmy condor
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We’re lucky if we don’t get nerfed lowkey

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If we stay exactly where we are now, it’s a good day

runic hinge
haughty flicker
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god it would be so funny if we got nerfed

grand trail
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Damn whispyr

haughty flicker
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i'd be down for it just for the meltdown

grand trail
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What arr you saying

haughty flicker
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personally my bet is we dont show up in a patchnote for the rest of the patch

runic hinge
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Imagine they just revert the ct buff from earlier

royal lantern
balmy condor
balmy condor
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Fire mage and windwalker get hit

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And then we’re like

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VERY good

grand trail
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Ohg

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So you are going this way

magic fossil
grand trail
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Nerf them till we shine

haughty flicker
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its definitely possible

balmy condor
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Well I think right now we’re right on the cusp of being good enough to take a slap on the wrist

haughty flicker
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ww is going to get ass blasted

grand trail
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But they nerfed enha shaman like 5 timers during s1 and he was still top dps 😄

balmy condor
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Like we could see like a 3% aura nerf or something

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Or we could see nothing

grand trail
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I feel like you know more than we do

balmy condor
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There’s luckily specs stronger that are for sure getting nerfs

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I only know what has historically happened

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They buff from the bottom up, and nerf from the top down, as is reasonable

haughty flicker
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we need blizzard to do one round of tuning then go afk

balmy condor
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At some point they gotta have a cut off though of like what doesn’t get nerfed

subtle tundra
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MY WW>........sd.aksm,dflop jkasop

balmy condor
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IMO we’re right on that line

subtle tundra
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WTF??!@??!?!?

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THEY WILL NERF MY WINDWALKER

grand trail
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We have dk swapping to warrior and enha swapping to WW 😄 i say fuck them up

balmy condor
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I think best case scenario is we get nothing and they nerf the top and buff the bottom

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And like the middle shuffles around

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But we’re still in the top end

subtle tundra
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idk i hope they tune our m+

haughty flicker
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it didnt work this time

balmy condor
subtle tundra
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rogue

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who cares about WW its about to get nerfed

runic hinge
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Welcome back to the promised land

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Time to change pfp

haughty flicker
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panda rogue

balmy condor
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I don’t think it’s likely we see m+ changes we had a yap about it higher up but making assa st in m+ good is a lot of changes and talent reworks and shit realistically

subtle tundra
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yeah after this tier im about to go to the promised land, quitting

balmy condor
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Much more likely they just leave us as aoe monsters and st shitters

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And then worry about it next expac or something KEKW

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Like does assa st in keys get tuned, or do any of the hero talents for rogue get a rework

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Or do they fix killing spree on outlaw

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Or outlaw mastery

subtle tundra
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lol!

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rogue needs a whole expansion dedicated to it

balmy condor
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Like there’s much bigger issues in rogue itself that could use attention realistically

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Assa doing a little bit below average boss damage in m+ is pretty far down the priority list I would imagine

haughty flicker
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rogue rework in midnight

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bc thats when rogues work

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it just makes sense

golden loom
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Midnight sub expansion confirmed

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Perma shadowdance

balmy condor
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Darkest night + midnight

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Deathstalker meta?

subtle tundra
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sub design gets so random sometimes

balmy condor
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Yeah perma shadow dance was the idea behind Kyrian

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Do mini-game, infinite cdr basically

subtle tundra
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remember when 7cp was a strong reward...

limber granite
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hi

subtle tundra
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hi!!

neat jacinth
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In big AoE scenarios in M+ (brewery first pulls / mechagon first pull etc.) - how many garrotes and ruptures do you guys apply before going into cooldowns?

balmy condor
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Amb gar rup rup gar gar ct mut gar dm kb envenom

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How many is that

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3+2+2+2 is uh 9

outer kernel
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classtunings coming soon? oO

amber brook
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
royal lantern
iron carbon
neat jacinth
timid cradle
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How big of a dps loss is it to drop twist the knife to get iron wire?

vocal hedge
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whenever i have 1 shiv for kb, do I shiv before kb or shiv for the last 8 seconds of kb

acoustic finch
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If were raiding and M+ is it better to run one of both authority of the depths and radiant power for weapon enchants?

hollow river
crisp stream
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!up

dawn heath
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my gear broke

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first pull on first boss

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my dagger broke during damage amp

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on mythjic

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xd

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and we killed the boss

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had to equip s1 dagger

hidden dock
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you stole my shoulders

dawn heath
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lol

earnest remnant
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you stole my guildies shoulders thats grounds for a ban aljan

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sorry

dawn heath
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stole by winning it on roll you mean

earnest remnant
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yes

dawn heath
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big steal

hidden dock
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they had my name on it

lean plover
hallow imp
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!talents

crisp stream
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!up

past roost
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Which trinket should I swap it out for my skardyn's is 639 and 626 anub is this okay to listen to radibots sim? and sawp out skardyn's?

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One that I got

subtle tundra
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skardyn

past roost
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So swap out skaryn's for that signet

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@subtle tundra

subtle tundra
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literally just said so

past roost
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Thanks!

dapper cradle
cerulean maple
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ill make yalls latte art exdtra cute if u stutter like a sillybilly

neat jacinth
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WHen playing with supercharger in m+, would you still not shiv in 5+?

pure moth
zinc vale
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#change_sin_rogue_tier_set

past oracle
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If u accident get mark on a bad target do you just focus that target until it dies

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Guess that never happens to u guys

runic hinge
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In what context

past oracle
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Like big m+ pack

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Like just dropped mark on a target and a target swap is called

marble hemlock
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dont have to focus it until it dies, just until you get DN

spice spire
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What’s dn

runic hinge
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Da noodle

drifting cloud
marble hemlock
hearty reef
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Das Nacht

coral ibex
rotund oak
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or was it heroic

earnest remnant
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it was a guildie doing first boss mythic

gusty mirage
hallow imp
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Why are some playing without “subterfuge” and “without a trace” ?

subtle tundra
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idk

gusty mirage
subtle tundra
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hi hi hi

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hi

coral ibex
shy axle
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do you always use a buffed gar as first gcd after vanishing in your kb window or do you try to aim for a env and gar afterwards? unsure if gar is only buffed as the first gcd out of stealth in st spec or the whole 6 seconds from improve gar talent

limber oyster
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
golden loom
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but usually you just cast it as first cgd anyways cause the current garrote is about to run out

shy axle
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thank you

gusty mirage
real pike
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wait since when is WaT standard in dungeons

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I thought it was shite and only good for niche uses?

strange sleet
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New weapon is pumping let's go

nova aspen
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fire mage at tank damage

slate crown
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On its own it's always been an ok talent. The problem in the past was that it cost a good 4 talent points because the talents in front of it were useless

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Therefore the cost of it made it shit

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now, subterfuge is no longer useless and is good

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so, picking up WaT is not a 4 point investment

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Therefore it's a reasonable pickup

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Not required but fine

manic sphinx
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Something weird with one of my sims. A lower ilvl item sims higher than it's higher ilvl version 🤔

orchid phoenix
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Is there a Tricks of the trade Macro that doesn't need focus target?

manic sphinx
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Mouseover?

prisma monolithBOT
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Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
real pike
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I've been using some old build without MA also

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tbf the extra charge is gonna feel nice for reapplying for those pesky chain pulling tanks

analog field
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Guys i am simming 4p vs 2+2 and i see that 4 is better with the 2 items from 639 to 655. I have read that they would be better farther up. Am i doing sth wrong ?

pliant remnant
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🔮

lean plover
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For me its jus that subt is too good, entering a pack from stealth only to get enviroment damage and not be able to apply mark...yikes

pliant remnant
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Linking the sim would help

royal python
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Has shadow step on gallywix been fixed ?

analog field
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yes i am saying that at 658 they 4p is way better

subtle tundra
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ok

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then wear it?

manic sphinx
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Sim > general statement. Also, I think if you'r edoing bleed build, 4pc is better sooner

lofty junco
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i thought we were supposed to get another spark piece this week? but there is no worldsoul weekly

hard river
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We were supposed to get just half a spark but they hotfixed another half given to you from the catalyst earthen dude, so we have 2 sparks total

lofty junco
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so basicly only 1 full spark?

rotund oak
hard river
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so 2 full sparks

silk sundial
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You should be able to get 2 full sparks. The 2 fragments from last week. The free fragment they gave us and 1 more fragment from the 100 titan disc quest

nova aspen
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solo a greenie again aWoggies

lofty junco
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i only had 1 full spark. half from the quest, half one from worldsoul

silk sundial
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From last week?

lofty junco
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and 1 half was in my bank. so dunno where i should get the 2nd half

analog field
silk sundial
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Have you done the titan disc quest from this week?

lofty junco
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yeah

pliant remnant
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1 from Titan Disc quest, 1 from World Soul, 1 in your bank, and then you get an extra one from the dwarf next to the catalyst

silk sundial
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Did you talk to the guy next to the catalyst machine?

pliant remnant
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so 4 fragments i.e. 2 sparks in total

lofty junco
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OHHHH. the map didn't show the quest

silk sundial
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He had 1 to give you last week and another 1 to give you this week

lofty junco
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ty

pliant remnant
lofty junco
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catalyst is next reset?

vale marten
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has anyone done underpin ??, need tips if anyone has

manic sphinx
onyx linden
golden loom
manic sphinx
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Oh sheet. I been simming wrong all this time. I just copy paste my simc - but im usualyl in m+ talents

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Thx, need to fix that - that'll be annoying. But besides that, do you see the gear options? The neck items higher ilvl give lower dps?

haughty flicker
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willing to bet both of those necks would take your crit over your mastery

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which would fuck with priory

manic sphinx
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Not even that. The same neck - at a lower ilvl, sims higher, than the neck at ahigher ilvl?

haughty flicker
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also why are we simming 1:30 randomly

manic sphinx
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i dont know - isn't that the default? What am i supposed to be simming? lol

haughty flicker
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this is generally what is used as a baseline sim

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st patchwerk, 5m

manic sphinx
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yikes, ok - thx. i been doing it wrong al lthis time, haha

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and dungeon slice timing?

haughty flicker
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dungeon slice doesnt use fight length setting

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it has its own stuff

manic sphinx
#

ok ok, ty. time to resim everything, haha

#

is there a way in raidbots to select talent set for the sim? Or do i have to change spec ingame and copy first?

onyx linden
wide ferry
royal lantern
#

and then do tank dmg for the boss cus you HAD to use all cds for the enemys right before a boss fight that would have died in 10seconds anyway

brave comet
#

shee man, i cant find a guild since i only have pug experience and no CE

haughty flicker
royal lantern
#

based and real

haughty flicker
#

maybe dont get ce first tier but its definitely doable, especially as a rogue since nobody fucking plays this class

brave comet
#

i have several top 100 in the world parses bel

haughty flicker
#

then you shoul definitely be able to find a mythic guild

#

lmao

brave comet
#

well i didnt reach out, i did put my profile out there

#

but i dont seem to be getting invitiations

sharp viper
#

Why is nobody bringing food to me, I didn't order anything but I said that I am hungry

haughty flicker
#

every guild ive been in has reached out to me, but also coming in and saying you cant find a guild after not reaching out is pretty hype

brave comet
#

fair enough

red schooner
#

just do what i did, be a social in a guild that mythic raids, wait for raid team to implode, get drafted into raid team to fill in numbers kekdog

haughty flicker
#

lmao

#

the long con

sharp viper
#

or just be proactive and apply to guilds

red schooner
haughty flicker
#

see i was smart and just didnt play last tier

#

bonus points because it means i never had to play with transmitter

brave comet
#

youre very smart bel

#

last season was not great

red schooner
broken sandal
#

Does caustic splatter reach on cauldren, i've kind of not really paid attention and assumed so, we are taking them on mythic tonight, assume we cleave at intermission?

manic sphinx
#

Fight is largely ST, isn't it?

#

intermission just used to swap Deathstalker's, I would have thought.

golden loom
#

u take spatter

manic sphinx
#

oh wow 😮

haughty flicker
#

ib is worth very little, so even the bit of cleave you get in clash is worthwhile

manic sphinx
#

I see

red schooner
#

ye the way i understand it, if you can get even a tiny bit of CS utilisation, its worth it over IB

haughty flicker
#

its insanely easy for sin to take caustic, basically if anyone is within range ever its probably worthwile

manic sphinx
haughty flicker
#

there is a way ive just never messed with it

manic sphinx
#

Can't seem to deslect "active"

spice surge
#

Wdym

manic sphinx
#

Sorry not specs - but talent builds

spice surge
#

You just select a different set of talents

acoustic roost
#

I think what hes asking is for instance if hes in m+ build but wants to select ST build, you can't deselect m+ build and will be stuck doing sims on both builds

manic sphinx
#

But then it comes up like this?

acoustic roost
#

mainly an issue if you're away from game

haughty flicker
#

oh thats not what i thought you meant at all

#

just swap specs 4head

spice surge
haughty flicker
#

or just ignore the option you dont care about

acoustic roost
#

limits the number of combinations you can do

manic sphinx
#

It halves what I can do, for one

spice surge
#

Just dont sim gem combinations Surebud

#

But you can manually edit the simc yes

#

Just copy the talent string from the m+ part of it and paste it in your other talent section at the top

manic sphinx
#

ooh, interesting

humble cradle
#

is there any difference between ascension on offhand vs mainhand?

spice surge
#

No

manic sphinx
thick juniper
#

Good evening, for heroic one-arm bandit, what strat would you advise? Should I be Dpsing the adds? I feel they die too fast, maybe focus the 3rd and dot the 1st two?

royal lantern
#

cleave from boss

thick juniper
#

Dot the add and stay on boss?

balmy condor
#

Don’t dot the add

red schooner
balmy condor
#

Does the add live longer than 8 seconds?

red schooner
#

Is it not even worth throwing out a rupture right before it dies?

balmy condor
#

Hell no

#

It’s gotta live >8 seconds

coral ibex
#

you see: big rupture energy regen
you don't see: cp and energy you spent on a rupture instead of envenom

red schooner
coral ibex
#

yea so don't spend ruptures unnecessarily

red schooner
#

but i like to live under the delusion that i'm a dot class sometimes

#

i want to believe

thick juniper
#

Lol Ty guys

tight sparrow
#

Does anyone have a vod of a good parse on the Second boss on mythic?

balmy condor
#

Not really much to do on cauldron, no?

#

It’s just CDs on cooldown, play caustic, have big uptime

ancient rain
#

!shiv

#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
ancient rain
#

Is it possible to put a [known:spellID] in this macro? i tried but doesnt work

balmy condor
#

In case of what

kindred tangle
#

is singing citrine best in slot for M+ assassination even if my sims show another 658 ring is better?

balmy condor
#

Probably have an insane amount of mastery

ancient rain
#

I want this macro to not work when I play pvp

kindred tangle
#

Yes

balmy condor
#

Ye so the circlet is bis, but it’s a ring that gives basically nothing but mastery and you have a stupid amount of mastery

#

So it sucks

#

Get other stats and it’ll be bis again

hollow river
kindred tangle
#

so trust the sims is what you're saying? thanks.

balmy condor
#

Yes

hollow river
#

But if you want them separate in pvp you’d have to swap the macro out for the spells

timber meadow
balmy condor
#

Ye

timber meadow
#

got baited by my discord scroll, happens way too often

#

thought that was recent lol

tawdry root
#

are yall still playing bleed build for +10s or do you feel hybrid started to take over by then

ancient rain
#

anyone knows why rik reverb mythic drops two pillars on melee instead of dropping one on ranged? it makes no sense

#

two pillars almost perfectly stacked

soft shale
#

being ranged and melee at the same time

harsh harbor
#

anyone else stuck in floodgate hell?

fleet pagoda
#

i pretend to not know about the trinkets, it's a happier life waiting for them in vault

golden loom
#

got warbound eye of kezan, my warrior eating well by not even being played ez

humble verge
#

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK

hearty seal
#

y'all weren't kidding, Reverber really is "if they aren't in range of caustic, it's not my fucking problem"

fleet pagoda
hearty seal
#

(tbh switching targets as Sin when they get melted in like 5 seconds just kinda doesn't work)

red schooner
balmy condor
woven prairie
balmy condor
#

And it’s always been like that

woven prairie
#

aight, cool

balmy condor
#

Idk why people keep thinking we never play 4 piece

thorn thorn
#

Do I call my guilds rogue a traitor for rerolling sub

balmy condor
#

There is misinformation afoot

dawn heath
#

is my sim bricked

#

or why am i simming 1.8 mil?

spice surge
#

Surely theyll buff the tier and/or nerf old tier so people dont get confused Surebud

balmy condor
#

Surely yes

woven prairie
balmy condor
#

Do they

#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
woven prairie
#

they used to yes

thorn thorn
#

Gurantee this is what a good % of people see in the pins

balmy condor
#

Cause before the 4piece was like

#

An actual bonus

#

Sure

woven prairie
#

nah until like a week ago or something, not 100% sure when but wasnt that long ago it was updated

balmy condor
severe meadow
balmy condor
#

Yeah idk I don’t open the sheet so I would have no idea

subtle tundra
#

huh

balmy condor
#

But 4pc was unplayable in ptr cause it was so ass

#

Got buffed

thorn thorn
balmy condor
#

And it’s been late hero/early myth track since

#

Idk

#

People just not looking at good info I guess

humble verge
#

maybe ill have to go sub

runic hinge
#

!stats

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
hearty seal
#

starting to softcap mastery this season, apparently

#

approaching 21k and all

golden loom
#

I think I had 2 dry shiv darkest nights just get parried on vexie

#

SHIT BOSS

humble verge
#

imagine not being capped since siren isle ring

#

i feel sad

subtle tundra
#

good thing we dont care and just sim

fleet pagoda
#

when taking both SB and sudden demise, is it worth spreading rupture for damage or is it still just a SoB conduit? not sure where it stands after bleed buffs

balmy condor
#

21k mastery dr cap

#

I will keep this in mind for the future

#

(Forget in 3 minutes)

humble verge
balmy condor
#

If you throw a couple extra out though not too big of an issue

#

Buffs made it closer

humble verge
#

me when i use alch chaos

balmy condor
#

But it’s still just kinda bleh

balmy condor
humble verge
harsh harbor
#

finally

balmy condor
humble verge
#

im actually

balmy condor
#

That is another number

#

Two numbers!

humble verge
#

MIN MAXING

balmy condor
humble verge
#

im still using motherlode trinket

harsh harbor
#

You dont even wanna know what hot garbage im using

severe meadow
humble verge
#

im pretty hot

buoyant herald
#

That’s a pretty long dagger

#

But I respect the commitment to the theme

harsh harbor
severe meadow
balmy condor
#

655 Susge

harsh harbor
#

im good for now, need a hero signet

humble verge
#

so hmmmm

#

i got tier hands

#

and catalysted hero shoulders

#

surely its worth it

royal lantern
#

jfc

#

or im sending royal to your house

humble verge
hearty seal
#

bleh
still need hero shoulders/gloves to catalyst next week

magic fossil
severe meadow
magic fossil
#

but its only possible by delves right?

#

😐 kinda hard

severe meadow
#

Afaik

magic fossil
#

yeah, i think so

severe meadow
#

I got lucky and got one from an 8 bountiful

dawn seal
#

guys

severe meadow
#

I imagine vault too tho

dawn seal
#

I tried to help my friend and explain the wowhead rotation prio etc

magic fossil
#

yeah, right, vault and delves

dawn seal
#

what do u guys think about this

severe meadow
dawn seal
#

LMAO

#

it reminds me of me running around the boss doing nothing for 50 seconds

timid bramble
#

so if i delete my ring - and go get another one from island

#

i get it at max lvl?

compact flame
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
hollow river
#

but some definitely get it back at base ilvl

#

and have to relevel it farming the events

warm vortex
#

Bro hearing background raid audio is so funny

#

Like it sounds like our rogue's kid is destroying his household

timid bramble
#

lol

#

Hmm wait

#

If I Delete it, i can just restore item i guess?

hollow river
#

afaik you have to get a brand new ring from the island

#

if you want it to work for the upgrade cheese

timid bramble
#

i meant like if i get it and its a low ilvl

#

can restore the other one (and say F the cheese) lol

hollow river
#

oh, yea

#

i think it takes like an hour to level back up

#

roughly

timid bramble
#

Ok thanks G

balmy condor
severe meadow
balmy condor
#

16 target arterial precision and you just pray to the gods that it bounces to targets that don’t have shiv yet

severe meadow
cinder bone
#

60 deaths lather

humble verge
#

its actually crazy

#

im being forced to go sub

#

only cause we somehow lack damage on rik adds

#

just let me play assa dude

balmy condor
#

I know it’s a joke

dawn seal
cinder bone
#

I wouldn't play sub unless they did a complete rework

red schooner
humble verge
#

surely that works

red schooner
#

are people in your raid just giga-slacking on adds or something?

humble verge
#

idk

#

im just cleaving cause thats just me

red schooner
#

on heroic rik our fucking warrior had less add damage than a healer kekdog

humble verge
#

most fights

#

im doing like

#

30m or so

#

before we die

past bobcat
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
royal lantern
humble verge
#

the thing is

#

rik is literally just the boss

#

where assa sucks ass

#

if you want me to spend like 2 hours learning a spec for 1 boss

#

where ill go back to assa straigth away on stix

#

idk man

red schooner
humble verge
#

oh i giga ignore the adds on heroic

#

forgot they even spawn

red schooner
cerulean walrus
#

Imagine a warrior tunneling boss instead of finding a way to pad by any means necessary

#

Crazy shit

humble verge
#

arent we all :3

red schooner
#

I just checked logs on that fight and I did more add damage than a ret pala. sir, all you have to do is hit divine storm

#

and you pad on adds

#

what happened

golden loom
#

bro fuck cauldron

#

that was such a awkward fight

red schooner
#

cauldron stops me from randomly shimmying left and right between every gcd

#

it kills me inside

golden loom
#

I was jumping while dps and suddenly heard stack high

#

fight ruined

hearty reef
#

so do we have meme statistics about cash out uptime?

golden loom
#

this might be my greatest kingsbane window ever, thoughts? @balmy condor

earnest garden
#

Just got minature roulette wheel what does +1 luck actually do? does it influence the way we get winning streaks?

red schooner
#

items broken

earnest garden
#

not sure if thats sarcasm or real lol

hollow river
#

nothing

#

it does nothing

red schooner
#

exactly

past bobcat
#

Sin is probably better in PSF than sub due to scent of blood hey?

soft surge
past bobcat
#

Being able to focus the prio target/mini bosses

humble verge
#

the other rogue actually went back to his main, monk

soft surge
#

is there someone who can replace you easily on the bench

humble verge
#

hm idk

soft surge
#

if u say i cant play sub or somethin

hexed matrix
#

sandbag your sub parses

humble verge
#

rofl

#

im gonna test out sub tomorrow and see how it is

#

if not ill just "TRY" to talent around the adds i guess

soft surge
#

its easier in raid than m+ at least

humble verge
#

tho i feel it doesnt really matter

soft surge
#

will never be chill like assassa tho

humble verge
#

yeah

#

maybe ill get the pvp neck i see everyone using

#

😴

golden loom
#

which neck is that

soft surge
#

oh damn i just checked all rogue parses on rik

#

that looks very suby

humble verge
#

this one

#

525 conq

golden loom
#

ah for sub

buoyant herald
#

Easy to get yeah

#

But the sockets cost 5k honor and 13k gold worth of mats

#

You can’t use normal socket items

humble verge
#

yeah

#

not like im gonna socket em

buoyant herald
#

Something a lot of people miss

#

It’s a good option if you have nothing else at all but like

#

I bet an equivalent ilvl crit/mastery neck with 2 sockets sims better

soft surge
#

have u seen the boe one

humble verge
#

i have this

#

oh

#

the boe one is insane

buoyant herald
#

Insanely expensive too

soft surge
#

id buy one but sims are liking me to have more haste

humble verge
#

:D

buoyant herald
#

Sub sims want haste wtf

soft surge
#

oh for assa i mean

buoyant herald
#

Oh right yeah

#

I’m just gonna craft eventually I think

#

If vault doesn’t force me into one before I get next spark

soft surge
#

good idea

#

theres heaps of good rings so ig neck would be 3rd best craft

buoyant herald
#

Other benefit of crafting is that it makes it easy to tweak stats via recrafting depending on other drops

#

None of this “oh I can’t equip this upgrade because I lose too much haste” etc, just a recraft neck easy

#

And yeah rings are kinda locked in this season

grizzled mist
#

when simming for M+ is it better to sim for 6 targets @ 1 min? or dungeon slice?

soft surge
#

the floodgate trinket is playing a big part in crit going down the ranks in stat prio i think

uneven plume
#

Yah it’s uptime is insane

grizzled mist
#

ty ❤️

uneven plume
#

I have like 7k crit and it’s still forcing me to stack mastery

soft surge
#

have u got eye of rezan? i dont but i wonder how sims will be then

buoyant herald
#

Yep I hit like 24k mastery with chaos flask and my sims still like it

uneven plume
#

No I run prioriy and flood trinket

soft surge
#

ya same

lavish geyser
#

does cinderbrew have a tight timer? other then some of these guys having pretty mid st dmg, I felt like everything went smoothn and we didnt have much time left, after timing it.

soft surge
#

bee boss can take ages if it heals

lavish geyser
#

dont think it healed. but yeah after some more reflecting the bosses took waay too long I think. They had pretty horrible st dam. but maybe it was just the class? I was playing with arms and retri

uneven plume
#

You have worse st than them

soft surge
#

all the bosses except last i think can take longer if not done right iirc

uneven plume
#

So yah. It was probably really bad

gleaming geyser
#

On bee boss, I send on pull and do bees/barrel by myself the entire fight because no damage outside of CDs galaxybrain

lavish geyser
lavish geyser
uneven plume
#

Well, there are two pure ST fights and two funnel fights

#

Hopefully you won on the funnel fights

lavish geyser
#

I won 2x funnel and ig also the first one. forgot abt that one. and got a close second on last boss

thorn thorn
#

What specs were your other dps

uneven plume
#

Ret arms

thorn thorn
#

oh

#

Arms prolly shoulda been smoking on st thinkPeepo

lavish geyser
#

yeah

#

he wasnt that good tbh

#

but I was mostly looking at my dmg, and it was quite low. but I just figured that the majority of the reason, was just that the bossfights took sooooooo looong

dawn heath
#

why is my rogue simming so low

#

1.8mil in ST talents

#

are we bugged in sims?

buoyant herald
#

That seems normal for current ilvl

dawn heath
buoyant herald
#

What do you think it should be?

dawn heath
#

idk i did mroe dps than my sim

#

on sprocketmonger

#

unlikely that i played perfect

earnest remnant
#

not uncommon to beat a sim

dawn heath
#

well then the sim is busted

red schooner
earnest remnant
#

it shows you a median

red schooner
#

did you recraft it?

dawn heath
red schooner
earnest remnant
#

he has weekly dagger

#

in mainhand

dawn heath
red schooner
#

disregard that

dawn heath
#

idk i understand that the sim has variance

#

but i dont think i played close to the variance

#

esp with downtime

#

and i got stunned by drills atleast once

#

all i know is that

earnest remnant
#

you can just open this and look

dawn heath
#

on my demon hunter you never beat the sims

#

not even on your god pulls

#

rank 1 logs dont even beat sims

#

im really suprised of that variance

#

and how are u simming 2.2 mil?

#

and im simming 1.8?

#

huh

earnest remnant
#

im sub

dawn heath
#

well ye thats different

#

lol

#

we dont evne play the same spec

golden loom
#

Just proc hard and proc often

dawn heath
#

sec let me check

#

im really suprised to see that spread

#

i feel like assa is pretty consistant

earnest remnant
#

welcome to wow

subtle kiln
#

get KB parried. omegalul

dawn heath
#

over 2 seasons of raiding

#

i also try to not stand infront of the boss

red schooner
golden loom
#

I think I got parried more on first 2 mythic bosses today than entire season 1

red schooner
#

it happened 2 pulls in a row once and i almost just alt-f4'd

soft shale
#

shadowstep kb and maybe take ticks of the poison

dawn heath
#

my gear broke on first boss mythic my dagger went red during ky Deathmark kingsbane

soft shale
#

or have a trickster rogue in the raid

dawn heath
#

i had to swap to a season 1 dagger after noticing 20 seconds later

wanton nest
#

Shush, don't put that juju in the air. Kb can't be parried.

dawn heath
#

on the damage amp

#

and ofc

#

we killed the boss

#

absolutely demonic

golden loom
earnest remnant
#

its not perma uptime

#

but its up quite a bit

soft shale
#

yea if it is sub it is like almost 90%

#

but not 100

golden loom
#

So you are telling me it dropped off at the same time as I did my giga envenom

#

Despair

dawn heath
#

had to fish for a dagger

#

put the season 1 dagger in the maindhand

#

for the remaining 3 minutes of the fight

red schooner
#

I had a last boss meadery once where my oh dagger broke midpull, ended up just spamming poisoned knife for combo point generation. It was a sad time.

dawn heath
#

i got a demonic log

#

its literally joever

#

now ill be declined to everything

thorn thorn
dawn heath
#

how much are u guys simmming on sin

#

those that are 660 with 4piece

#

like im wondering if im 200k+ bheind or what

red schooner
#

555 with 2+2, 1.939mil

dawn heath
red schooner
#

*655

dawn heath
#

i¨'m also 2p2p

#

but 1.81

strong wing
#

Can I do a crafeds droptimizer with the embellishment on those crafteds? Cause this is simming new wrists without embellish and i would like it to sim it with embellishments

dawn heath
#

?

mint valve
#

is elemental focusing lens poo poo on assa?

soft shale
red schooner
#

Did you run talents on the sim with spatter or internal bleeding?

strong wing
soft shale
#

use the on on #tc-research or just use the new finder in raidbots

strong wing
#

Thanks king

soft shale
red schooner
soft shale
#

if you are too lazy to copy paste the one from tcx

dawn heath
#

let me

#

resim maybe something was wrong

#

it seems really low

#

okay

#

i had battleshout off

#

i think

#

that seems more like tit

#

it

red schooner
#

ye, much more in line

dawn heath
#

meanwhile dh sim

#

but i think havoc is over simming by like 100k atleast

#

beating the robot is impossible

mint valve
#

elemental focusing lens bad for assa?

obtuse socket
#

all embellishments are terrible

#

i have lens for assassination and simming ascension with the armor band is only 0.2% better

mint valve
#

thank yo usir

obtuse socket
#

np <3

fallow canopy
dawn heath
#

im down bad

#

trying to buy lfr tier

#

to get my 4piece

#

apparently elon musk won this lfr piece and wants it badly

unique mirage
lavish brook
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
unique mirage
dawn heath
#

it is what it is

#

we bought it

haughty flicker
#

It’s ok it’s worth for transmog

unique mirage
#

Is anyone in here good with logs that gets purple/orange parses as assassin that could dm me please

dawn heath
#

fuck