assassination

[gilded oasis]

hell yeah

[viscid spear]

Trying to find a Cinderbrew run

[severe meadow]

Bricked an 11 sadge

[viscid spear]

Also Priory

[viscid spear]

What caused it?

[turbid crest]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[turbid crest]

whats the command

for zac wa

please

[balmy condor]

wrong channel mate

[turbid crest]

nah

the zac assa wa ?

[severe meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/milj-milk-skill-issue-spill-issue-spill-gif-25572474

[subtle tundra]

bruh we split mythic and alts dropped 2 boes already

and they arent tradeable

[viscid spear]

I'pa or am I missing something

[severe meadow]

First room deaths / overpulling

Probably some other dumb deaths scattered in

[humble verge]

i keep coping

i feel mugzee is just perfect

i get 2min cd just before he dies

but he wont die

:)

[golden loom]

are you staying outside of jails and cleaving from boss?

[viscid spear]

Seen a lot of lower keys in there where the tank pulls pretty much the entire room

Sans boss, of course

[balmy condor]

is that seriously what people are doing

I thought caustic doesn't work through walls

[golden loom]

I looked at a log and this assa rogue was 2nd on jail add damage

[severe meadow]

Someone in here said their caustic was hitting through walls

I can't remember who

[golden loom]

just spattering with boss in the middle of jails, also doesnt fuck with opener cds

[viscid spear]

Pretty sure it's not supposed to

[warm vortex]

Mine does

[severe meadow]

Probably not

[warm vortex]

Just cause im that good at the game

[severe meadow]

Balatro calls

[warm vortex]

I just finished an orange stake run

Wanna get a 10 done this week

But considering this is week 1 i think my character looks nice

Don't have too much time to play cause of uni

[balmy condor]

holy cringe

[severe meadow]

I just need one more

Been a lil lazy with 10s

[golden loom]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8pvGXyg19MYqKfaB?fight=24&type=damage-done log for reference if ur interested

[warm vortex]

Yea i hanve't done a single 10 this week

[golden loom]

but idk, the opener felt awful on mugzee if u have to go to prison

[autumn frost]

hello. I'm trying to adjust my plater profile. I took whisprs and it overwrote a lot of my settings that I'm used to all because I wanted to keep track of deathmark. How would I keep track of crimson tempest on the adds?

[golden loom]

so I rather it be something like that

[humble verge]

what do you think im doing

[golden loom]

[autumn frost]

If I'm not specifically targetting them

[warm vortex]

My fucking pets just

Sit outside the arena

Until i barbed shot the rocks

[golden loom]

is it consistent? @humble verge

[humble verge]

honestly

[golden loom]

or does it depend on tanks being locked in

[humble verge]

i feel like it

wait wdym

[balmy condor]

I add a little border, how are you trying to track it

[golden loom]

like them positioning boss well

[humble verge]

oh well

cant really cleave tbh

[warm vortex]

Rat

[humble verge]

atleast not from what i see in my logs

the jails are too far away

[cedar elm]

do we crimson in st in m+?

[autumn frost]

Oh like the default. Oh there's a border?

[warm vortex]

No

[autumn frost]

I gotta read your thing again

[warm vortex]

Unless there are more than 2 targets

[humble verge]

youre locked out or locked in

[autumn frost]

!wa

[warm vortex]

Like the guide says

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[humble verge]

but idk if you can cleave

[cedar elm]

sorry new to assa

[balmy condor]

it's not very large

[autumn frost]

Sorry it's a bit overwhelming with how different it was to my original ui

[balmy condor]

yes with a bleed build, no otherwise

[runic hinge]

I gotta up my damage threshold tho. Hunt them down crits are showing up

[golden loom]

the log I linked is 2nd on add damage never having gone into jail, all just spatter damage

[runic hinge]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[autumn frost]

i'd like to track it similar to how we track rupture honestly

[warm vortex]

Is cinderbrew meadery fucking horribly miserable for anyone els

Or do i just lack brain

[autumn frost]

with the same icon that it used to have on the default

[balmy condor]

remove it from this list

[autumn frost]

Thank you 🙂

[warm vortex]

Whispyr you need to get your stream sponsored by monster

Would be sick

[balmy condor]

you think I haven't thought of that

[warm vortex]

No honestly

You play rogue

So critical thinking isn;t your strong suit

Jk you are awesome

Yes ik im worse by playing BM

But hush

[balmy condor]

I think monster sponsors less than 40 streamers atm

[warm vortex]

Yea true

But you never know

I'm sure if you drink enough you will get sponsored

That's how it works

[balmy condor]

yeah yeah exactly

[versed mica]

I was reading the pins- what's the "pooling 3-4 seconds into kingsbane" thing all about?

[gilded oasis]

maybe if you inject it straight into your veins on stream they will see it and sponsor you

[balmy condor]

you pool 3-4 seconds into kingsbane

[warm vortex]

Holy hell!

[versed mica]

So you use kingsbane and then auto attack for 3-4 seconds?

[balmy condor]

going into the kingsbane

[warm vortex]

What, kingsbane or monster

Or both

[balmy condor]

obviously not while its ticking

[gilded oasis]

monster, but maybe KB also

[versed mica]

Okay that makes more sense lol

[warm vortex]

BuT wHiSpYr YoU sAiD tO nEvEr PoOl BeFoRe Kb

[fast mural]

love my 4set sims like the 2-2 set

balanced

[upper wraith]

Can we just bring back 1 button rotations, I’m getting to old for this shit

[warm vortex]

Bm

Boomie

Ret

[balmy condor]

assassination

[warm vortex]

XD

[haughty flicker]

how many fewer buttons do you want

mut mut envenom

[versed mica]

Envenom is all u need fr fr

[balmy condor]

cds don't even really need to be in the right order tbh

like if you press kb then deathmark then shiv

who's gonna care

[versed mica]

I care

[balmy condor]

assa legit just get bleeds smash cds smash envenom

[versed mica]

Fuck the one who do that

[gilded oasis]

whispyr is gonna care when he is combing through sin logs late at night instead of sleeping

[balmy condor]

spec is giga piss easy

[golden loom]

honestly it feels like a good tier for the spec to be easy

every boss is melee hell

[runic hinge]

Spec feels so good rn. Maybe im just a boomer

[golden loom]

yeah I mean this version is all I've known of retail rogue and I love it

cant complain

[warm vortex]

I play assa

the ranged version with pets

[golden loom]

honeslty I just fkin love shadowstep

[haughty flicker]

it even has a dot

[golden loom]

nothing else matters

[warm vortex]

Exactly!

[upper wraith]

I wanna make my wake up alarm just fok spam. I’m bored at work sorry for the random shit posting

[warm vortex]

And it does more damage than Assas dots too

Also i got into a weekly no leaver imma cream n scream

[humble verge]

man

topping every fight and no kill

irritates me

we're dying to simple mistakes

cant lie

AND PEOPLE DIDNT EVEN KNOW THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BOMB SPAWN AND THE GRENADE/FIRE SOAK

[viscid spear]

[balmy condor]

the quack man himself

[gilded oasis]

[runic hinge]

@keen spruce ?

[keen spruce]

[humble verge]

we are gaming.

surely we kill the boss now

and we wiped

[balmy condor]

if you do more damage while keeping more people alive

the boss will die

[humble verge]

HOOOOLY

real

people were running into the bombs

rofl

[golden loom]

Brother is dead with everything up?

[balmy condor]

cds come up at the end of the fight

[humble verge]

yeah

[balmy condor]

so kinda makes sense

[humble verge]

you know im

slightly asp

from my name

[golden loom]

Meant cloak and pot 🤓

[humble verge]

yeah

literally what i said

im asp

[golden loom]

Respectable

[humble verge]

had cloak, pot

AND cookie

[balmy condor]

checks out, every time I offer you my cookie you decline

[golden loom]

I cloaked the freezing thingy cause had no wall near me and was frozen in narnia for 30 seconds

Came back into the fight just in time to wipe to a mine

[timid bramble]

guys i dont like sub can i stay ass

I love ass

especially when ass is thick

[golden loom]

You can probably cloak that thingy at 1 seconds and be totally fine

[jolly vault]

I would like to raise you my horrendous damage profile with garrote as the highest output. Trust me there is ample space to fuck up xD

[golden loom]

In raid single target or m+?

[jolly vault]

M+

[runic hinge]

Garrote goes crazy in m+

[golden loom]

Well its not impossible but CT is so overtuned thats its a bit hard

[jolly vault]

How much do you trust in sims?

[golden loom]

I mean you use them for gear choices

[runic hinge]

I trust them to pick my talents and gear for me

[golden loom]

They arent there to tell you how your ingame damage will look

[jolly vault]

because sim said the "green" spew talent should be on top, and on my dmg profile it was nowhere near xD

yes I forgot the name

[haughty flicker]

spatter

[jolly vault]

that indeed

[haughty flicker]

most keys my breakdown is normally ct first spatter second

[jolly vault]

That is interesting, do you CT after finishing applying the other bleeds?

[haughty flicker]

with bleed build specifically

[humble verge]

always

200m

[haughty flicker]

i just press shit

[humble verge]

200 or 600 left

[jolly vault]

fair enough xD

[humble verge]

before we enrage

its so fucking stupid

[haughty flicker]

if bleed not up i use bleed

if shiv off cd i press shiv

profit

[jolly vault]

I wish I wasnt as frustrated with the class

because for some reason it isnt so easy for me

and my dmg sux

[haughty flicker]

im far from the best sin player ever

ive just played it for a few years now

so its comfy for me

[balmy condor]

doesn't go that crazy lmao

even in a bleed build CT is like a solid 50% more

[haughty flicker]

10 cinderbrew

[balmy condor]

did a priory and gar wasn't even close

[subtle tundra]

youre kinda just bad

idk

[haughty flicker]

true

[balmy condor]

yeah true

[runic hinge]

Okay but I haven’t done higher than a 6 cause I’m bad and they made me work Saturday so garrote is blasting because things die before imp garrote even falls off

[haughty flicker]

oh i was confused why spatter was so much higher but forgor kingsbane

[jolly vault]

I just always forget to apply Caustic, and seemingly that is a big problem

lol

[balmy condor]

that is a large part of your rotation yes

[subtle tundra]

its like a huge problem

[versed mica]

CT and spatter are the big hitters

[jolly vault]

when do you usually fit it in?

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

you apply bleeds, then spatter and envenom spam

[keen spruce]

Right before or right after getting CT up normally

Unless something changed in my absence

[balmy condor]

it has not

[keen spruce]

[jolly vault]

Great guides by the way ❤️ They were very helpful in getting me to understand the logic behind the class, now it is just up to mechanical skill ahah

[balmy condor]

glad it helps

[golden loom]

When playing bleedbuild and you go into a big pack with combo points up already, you just rip CT as a opener right

That cant be bad

[balmy condor]

sure

[haughty flicker]

press bleeds

[balmy condor]

probably should be a rupture

[haughty flicker]

press envenom

[versed mica]

I usually do amb-gar-rup-rup-fok-gar-ct-mut

[haughty flicker]

win

[balmy condor]

but yeah that's probably fine

[versed mica]

But I'm probably bad

[haughty flicker]

good enough to fill vault

[golden loom]

Something like
CT - garrote - garrote - rupture - rupture - mutilate - shiv - darkest night envenom - fan - CT

[balmy condor]

sure I guess

[jolly vault]

Maybe someday my group will stop closing their eyes when they see my dmg, someday

[golden loom]

Btw darkflame cleft has a joke of a timer

[versed mica]

As in it's easy?

[balmy condor]

you think that timer is a joke have you seen motherlode

[haughty flicker]

we died 19 times in a 10 and still timed motherlode

lmao

[golden loom]

Went 5 seconds over in a 10 with like 45 deaths and horrible play all around

[haughty flicker]

shit is insanely forgiving

[balmy condor]

yeah we full wiped twice in a motherlode 11 and still timed

[golden loom]

We wiped both times we lusted

[balmy condor]

13 deaths and still 5 minutes to spare

[golden loom]

We died to a minecart blow up, died to 2nd boss twice? Died to the creepers in the darkness

My hunter died cause he was afk looking for flare in his spellbook cause you can do some tech with it on final boss

And we still almost timed

[last skiff]

kriss opti is true

[sour oasis]

hello guys

do u know how we use the trinket

[humble verge]

finally killed

i got 94 logs

but kill is a kill

[sour oasis]

of stix

are we wainting the 30 stracks ?

[humble verge]

which trinket

[balmy condor]

you cast it during lingering darkness

[humble verge]

@golden loom

its hitting but probably not as much

what even is the CS range

[balmy condor]

12 yards

[humble verge]

hmm

then its reaching ig

[golden loom]

Not bad

Did you do normal opener or delay it a bit? Saw for example double envenom before going into deathmark which might line up for more spatter damage @humble verge

[humble verge]

i am stupid, and i do normal stuff

sorry im about to pull

[golden loom]

Gl king

[rotund marsh]

how is this trinket

got it as bonus loot from the underpin

[haughty flicker]

sim it

but i remember it was pretty shit for me

[humble verge]

or check bloodmallet

[spice surge]

Atrocious unfortunately

But ye sim to see just how bad

[haughty flicker]

lmao

[rotund marsh]

ouch

all i have for now

just got this at the end of the delve

pls dont tell me its bad

[haughty flicker]

lol

[sour oasis]

zhttps://www.wowhead.com/item=230189/junkmaestros-mega-magnet?bonus=6652:10354:11980:1494:10255&class=4&ilvl=645&spec=259

this trinket

how do u use it ?

30 stacks ? or before

[sour oasis]

my friend

[humble verge]

yeah but you didnt even post it before i said it

so how in the fuck would i know

[rotund marsh]

... its shit?

[warm vortex]

Goes crazily mid

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

[humble verge]

why are you on vacation from BM, its pumping in m+

[warm vortex]

No

Im on a BM vavation

As in

Im not playing assa and im playing BM,

and tbh im still kinda mid in m+, i've just been very tired lately

But like the 2 set is

Idk

Simming to be like 12% upgrade

Which is funny

and 4 set is like

25%

ALSO

[balmy condor]

#assassination message

[warm vortex]

just finished a 10 weekly no leaver

So i'm happy

took like an hour or so

We took each pack 3 mobs at a time

[balmy condor]

:)

[warm vortex]

Didn't wipe on any bosses tho

[haughty flicker]

i used to say i'd main bm if it wasnt so simple

[warm vortex]

Whispy's garrotes are strong cause he is always upset and angry

That's the fun part about BM

long day at uni
I come home

Kick my feet up

[haughty flicker]

but sin is just as simple

[warm vortex]

Pour some tea

And bam

[haughty flicker]

i can no longer be a hypocrite

[warm vortex]

Also BM allows me to do a lot of raid mechanics

[haughty flicker]

yeah thats what i liked about it

[warm vortex]

Which is VERY helpful when you are in a more casual guild

Like i was getting 15 stacks last night on RiK

Sacraficing myself to get those amps X)

[haughty flicker]

i could do mechanics on shit like silken court that i knew pugs would fuck up if i didnt do it

save myself 10 wipes

by doing a simple emchanic

[warm vortex]

And tbh mechanics can be fun

Like

Knowing you are the reason the raid isn't dead

[rotund marsh]

welp.. unfortunate

[warm shard]

In mythic plus when factoring in sudden demise at what point in a trash pack / mob’s life should we no longer consider refreshing bleeds? 10 seconds left, 16 seconds left?

[waxen oyster]

damage proc trinkets arent good for sin

generally

[rotund marsh]

seems theres a lot of decent ones from the delves that i dodged

[sour oasis]

even if i am low stack ?

[sour oasis]

èsorry my friend

[waxen oyster]

if ritual knife is still on the delve loot table

its the best delve trinket

[humble verge]

yes

and no

[waxen oyster]

mechano core feels like a bad dawnbreaker proc trinket

though

[warm vortex]

Just

Sim

Like

[balmy condor]

well if you cast it at low stacks, then you won't be at low stacks the next time :)

[waxen oyster]

it sims very well though

[warm vortex]

If you wanna see if X is the best trinket, run it through your raid bott

Ok?

Is it the best delve trinket for you

[sour oasis]

Thank you whispyr, u know u are my favorite rogue erver bro ???

[warm vortex]

According to sims

There isn't a "bis" Item most of the time

[sour oasis]

Whispyr > Zac > Fuu

[warm vortex]

As it very heavily depends on your current gear and item set

Nono

[balmy condor]

what a top 3

[warm vortex]

Literally everyone > Zac

[waxen oyster]

Yeah generally speaking

[sour oasis]

(it's a joke dont be 1st degree)

[warm vortex]

I'm second degree

[waxen oyster]

knife is kind of gross with how much main it gives though

[warm vortex]

so that should be ok

[sour oasis]

except whispyr > all

after i hesitate but, i would say fuu even if he doesnt care about us the assa rogue

[waxen oyster]

I need to farm more priories

[warm vortex]

I mean whisyp makes more "Your mom" jokes than anyone else here so he is automatically the best

[waxen oyster]

but why is every brainrotted pug going right side miniboss

[warm vortex]

We all do :(

I have signet at least

But

Its on champ

[sour oasis]

The spreadsheet is 9/10 but he was god like at shadowlands

[haughty flicker]

L

[sour oasis]

now he puts 3 lines and say fuck off

[warm vortex]

Take a guess what way we went on my fucking weekly no leaver XD

[haughty flicker]

imagine not getting a signet with leech on your first priory run

[waxen oyster]

Well champ signet lasts you the first month

at least

[warm vortex]

Oh i got it with leech on my first priory

[waxen oyster]

because sending gildeds on hero gear

[warm vortex]

Just champ

[waxen oyster]

early on

[warm vortex]

haha

[peak bobcat]

Signet Lowkey not even good

[waxen oyster]

Yeah i had a 2600 rdruid

[peak bobcat]

There’s just no good trinkets

[waxen oyster]

not cast any healing during aoe

so people died to trash

on cd

[warm vortex]

Guys

what do you think of sugar

[spice spire]

I do not think of sugar

[waxen oyster]

Man was just letting 2 people die every paladin aoe cast

[spice spire]

Except from ur pops

[warm vortex]

Well he thinks of you

Why are you so fucking addicted to him

[fallow canopy]

Cute but with a dark past

[warm vortex]

The last 2 times we spokje it has been about him

[fallow canopy]

Maybe cheese dealing

[warm vortex]

He chewed through my last bow :(

But hey he does good damage

so he chill

[waxen oyster]

Trap was inviting a ragnaros rdruid

Sneaky fucks going to other realms lately though

[sour oasis]

i think Ratatouille > Sugar

maybe i am french

[spice spire]

I’m sorry

[warm vortex]

Nah sugar solos him
They would cook together tho

[warm vortex]

Let me guess
"Sorry about doing your pops so hard"

[spice spire]

No I just wouldn’t wish French on my worst enemy

Plus ur pops is the jealous type

[warm vortex]

Sure

I bet you wouldn't have said something like that if i said "It's ok"

you asshole

:(

[waxen oyster]

French or British

[fallow canopy]

French or outlaw?

[waxen oyster]

if you had to choose one

[spice spire]

Death

[spice spire]

Death

[spice spire]

I am what I eat

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

is that why I'm mexican

[spice spire]

Yeah except you’re German you fucking half a meatball

[cerulean walrus]

Woah man calm down

[haughty flicker]

quake has such an elegant way with words

[cerulean walrus]

He has such an elegant way with your pops, too

[spice spire]

True

[rotund oak]

u are most likely more german than those who live in actual germany

(shots fired at seli)

[balmy condor]

[rotund oak]

(its hard to bait seli but i think the bait is strong)

[drifting cedar]

do u transfer the mark to adds on bandit guys?

seems annoying

[balmy condor]

probably shouldn't

[sharp viper]

how dare you write that #assassination the german chat room of this server

[cursive marsh]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[plain jewel]

Fatebound seems to be simming higher? is it because I have a lot of crit?https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9HhwYN3tHTMehKAbvjZmDV

[balmy condor]

yeh it can in pure single target

fatebound is just really bad when there's adds

and there's always adds

[honest needle]

i forgot do we do deadly or instant poison for m+

cp,plete brain fart

[balmy condor]

never instant poison anywhere

[runic hinge]

!poisons

Oh

[royal lantern]

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[royal lantern]

[kindred oriole]

!sheet

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[alpine pagoda]

build wo kb?

[dawn heath]

nope

i havent changed my build since season one idk if anything has changed

[lethal python]

With mythic plus build (1 charge of shiv), do we shiv before or after kingsbane?

[magic fossil]

after each key level bleed build start to fall short?

10/11?

[runic hinge]

You shiv last 8 seconds of KB

Personally I’d never just have one charge of shiv tho

[lethal python]

The guides say to shiv before, which is why I'm confused

[tawdry halo]

With two charges you shiv before KB and again for the last 8 secs or so of KB

With 1 charge you just do the last 8 seconds of KB

There’s a talent that gives you an extra charge

Play accordingly

[lethal python]

Thank you

[gray raven]

or just yolo dry shiv w/o kingsbane - feels liberating!

[willow grotto]

why the tooltip for the 4p on wowhead is not the same IG

[balmy condor]

I'm guessing you're trying to say the in game tooltip is different

[willow grotto]

yes i try 😄

[balmy condor]

that's because tooltips in game are locked before a patch release due to localizations and the actual numbers were hotfixed after that freeze went into effect

also the in-game doesn't say 70% because blizzard doesn't want to tell us things

so I added the 70% on wowhead because fuck that

stupid fucking "a chance" bullshit

[willow grotto]

and the 10s

[balmy condor]

well the 10 is a 4

in game

because they can't change that

cause of the freeze

like I said

[willow grotto]

so currently it's 10s buff instead of 4 but the 4 is not fixed yet

[balmy condor]

the text on the tooltip in game is not fixed, yes

the spell itself is 10 seconds

[drifting cedar]

!bleed

[willow grotto]

ok thx you so much

[pearl laurel]

Which 2 pieces do you prio for 2set as sin?

[runic hinge]

It’s week 1. So probably whatever you can get

[pearl laurel]

I have all pieces in my bag hero track just not sure what to send after vault

[balmy condor]

that's a sim

[pearl laurel]

Okay

Ty

[rotund marsh]

yeahhhh im gonna kms

3 trinkets in a row

all bottom of the barrel trash

maybe they will buff them

[balmy condor]

oh that garbagemancers is bottom of the barrel trash even with a buff

[rotund marsh]

10 seconds

[balmy condor]

forget the 10 seconds

have you seen the targetting reticle on that?

you cannot hit that thing

[rotund marsh]

lmao

whoever designed this trinket were doing it with the intention of it being a shit item

just got this from a curiosity to make up for it i guess

[fast mural]

buff sin 4set

[rotund marsh]

been a while since they did any tuning

[waxen oyster]

Yeah the noggenfogger trinket is also pretty terrible

[rotund marsh]

wonder if they will do some for tomorrow

[waxen oyster]

got mechano core from my first delve

[rotund marsh]

yeah it would be a bit better if it was not ground target so it could macro

[waxen oyster]

and from map on dh

[rotund marsh]

lucky..

[fast mural]

mechano core big i have it also

[rotund marsh]

Bis on dh i think

[waxen oyster]

Probably worse than eye of kezan+house

i imagine

[fast mural]

maybe if you get it from map it would be worth

[waxen oyster]

its kind of a worse dawnbreaker trinket

[fast mural]

They arent many good trinkets overthere buddy

[waxen oyster]

Well if this is following s1 loot table

spelunkers waning candle still good

and ritual knife

[fast mural]

yea knife is a dream

a myth legend

[agile geode]

it is regular? 2+2 better than 4p?

[fast mural]

for me its simcs the same

[agile geode]

weird

lol

didnt expected that

[fast mural]

1.986M DPS 2-2
1.966M DPS 4set
😄

[vapid terrace]

4 set prolly gonna need mythic track

[final phoenix]

so whats the new stat weights?

caus i see a lot more haste from wowhead

[spice surge]

Sim yourself

[rotund marsh]

i get gilded crests from just doing 11s?

or is it only from bountiful 11s and a key

[balmy condor]

no new stat weights

[balmy condor]

bountiful 11's 3x a week

total of 21 gilded a week possible

[waxen oyster]

bountiful 11s

dont think you need a key

Shit is so easy for tanks, did it first try on a 619 bdk

[rotund marsh]

wow

yeah got 7 characters i could do it on this week, think im just gonna do it on a few though

cause this is a lot of work

[waxen oyster]

fungal folly yesterday was super easy

just to finish the vault slots

[rotund marsh]

yeah im doing fungal rn

no shot i got another

[pliant remnant]

We are so back bros

[idle stump]

i had no idea this was a thing lul

[waxen oyster]

They are worth like 37k on ah

[haughty flicker]

not anymore

warbound

[waxen oyster]

or were rather

[haughty flicker]

blizzard hates fun

[waxen oyster]

I got map natty on 3 chars

[hollow river]

Lol wtf really

[waxen oyster]

think only rogue got attacked by underpin

for it

trying to solo 11s on shaman is brutal though

at only 625

[rotund marsh]

earth ele carries tho

just did it on frost mage and it was hyper easy, mage just has so many tools

[waxen oyster]

every 5mins

[snow hamlet]

Resolved issues where casting Shadowstep during the Gallywix encounter could potentially lead to the player’s premature demise.

lul

[cunning scaffold]

This hotfix implies that caustic spatter comes from the rogue and not the target it’s applied to. Very confusing language

[severe meadow]

This was so annoying

[static glacier]

it doesn't

it implies that for some reason spatter wasns't hitting stuff near us :l

[gray raven]

Wait what

[balmy condor]

Caustic Spatter Fix Explained

Note that none of this is drawn to scale and only serves as an illustration I'm sorry my paint skills are shit
Before

• Caustic Spatter had a 12 yard range from center of boss (red circle)

After

• Caustic spatter still has a 12 yard range from the center of boss (red circle)
• NEW additionally now has a check around the player (also 12 yards, blue circle). This DOES NOT TRIGGER UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS.

This second check is NOT a pure aoe around the player, as the spatter target must also be within the melee distance of the boss (yellow circle). Think bosses that are very far away but have a large hitbox, such as gallywix, bloodbound horror, rashanan.

In the case that a mob in the blue also overlaps a mob in the yellow, it will be hit by spatter. This is to say you should be standing on top of the mobs as long as they're still in radius of the boss. Image two showcases the new area in green. In Image 1, before you would not hit the yellow marked mob, after the change you now hit the yellow marked mob.

[hidden bay]

[drifting cloud]

WE GOT PAINT

[warm vortex]

Huh?

[hidden bay]

man whispyr always onpoint

[warm vortex]

Interesting change

[cunning scaffold]

Ahh so the implication was correct

[gray raven]

Need protractor weak aura asap

[timber meadow]

did this happen a lot? legit never noticed i think

[hidden bay]

how can you notice if you didnt know

[timber meadow]

ig you'd just be suspicious about your overall dmg

[balmy condor]

just stand on top of mobs while still hitting boss

[hidden bay]

i have noticed during gallywix and wrote bugreport

[balmy condor]

as long as you're in the clump it'll hit more things

[waxen oyster]

It was mostly super noticeable on rash.

whispyr how bad is an on use crit or haste 1.5min trinket

[haughty flicker]

wait

so caustic now checks around the mob and the player

thats kind of funny

[gray raven]

This isn’t gonna mean anything in keys is it.

[hollow river]

I feel like it’s doggy. I got one too

[waxen oyster]

It probably is since its more about slamming envs in cds

but, also 23 ilvl over hero skardyn

where tf is my signet of the priory

[pliant remnant]

ayo that's actually kinda nice

Been playing like that's always been the case anyway

[haughty flicker]

good thing they waited an entire tier after rashanan to add it

[balmy condor]

only boss that I could think of that has such a large hitbox would be like king mechagon but that doesn't have adds. Maybe some niche cases for the last boss of darkflame? The problem only exists if the boss model is actually so gigantic that mobs are way more than 12 yards away, which typically is only raids

so yeah, probably not going to do anything for m+

bosses just aren't big enough

webs on the last boss dawnbreaker maybe if they're in weird spots

would've also been a good fix on the last boss in throne of tides when that was a thing

with the boss in the wall

[bleak ledge]

last boss rookery mayhaps?

if you pulled trash on it

[gray raven]

It can’t spawn til trash is dead

[bleak ledge]

only large enough hitbox i can think of

[desert crest]

Yes now they just need to fix blind so we can deal with affix on that boss also

[cunning scaffold]

I wonder if this is why my caustic spatter on p3 ansurek felt like it never hit the gloom hatchlings

[gray raven]

So annoying

[desert crest]

I really don't understand how it is not fixed yet

[errant heath]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[keen spruce]

neat

[runic hinge]

When is your sub out

[balmy condor]

probably not

[keen spruce]

i would have to reinstall the blizz app to find that out

or go to the website

like 10 days or somethin

[manic sphinx]

on Raid Cleave build, with Caustic Spatter - do we FoK on 2 targets, like in m+?

[manic sphinx]

This is really good, thanks!

[runic hinge]

You can find out right here

[keen spruce]

[graceful bane]

mechano-core nerf enough to make it not bis or still good enough to keep it bis?

[hidden bay]

get available trinkets you can actively farm such as signet of the priory in combination with motherlode or floodgate trinket

obviously if you are lucky and get raid trinkets use those

[graceful bane]

more concerned for if I see it in my vault tomorrow lol. dont want to pick it if the nerf was enough to kill it from bis

[hidden bay]

whatever sims highest

[runic hinge]

[fleet pagoda]

consider me engorged, ty for the effort in making the graphics. they're actually perfect

[tranquil cobalt]

no class tuning at all with reset right?

normally there is after week 1 of the new season no?

[haughty flicker]

theres no heroic week this time so rwf is in progress

they probably wont do much tuning until its over

maybe buff underperformers but otherwise i doubt much

[uneven plume]

do we still do the shiv minmax?

or can we shiv twice in DM

[haughty flicker]

you shiv twice in deathmark anyway

you just move the shiv from the start of odd minute kingsbanes to the dn window instead

[vale lantern]

my Sin is simming the same as sub 😦

[timber meadow]

man wtf cant even use priory in bleed build what a joke

[west crown]

?

[haughty flicker]

why would you not be able to

[timber meadow]

you can but id pref not to use a downgrade

[kind heron]

anyone running twist the knife in m+?

[haughty flicker]

technically the bleed build sims less than hybrid always

so with your logic you'd never use bleed build anwyay

but why priory specifically

lmao

[timber meadow]

its a big diff logic

[west crown]

isnt it like .5%

[timber meadow]

1.7% for me

[hardy rapids]

Oh no!

[hollow river]

Why does that matter

[haughty flicker]

i still dont understand why priory was the specific example here

what about priory makes you think bleed build is a downgrade

seems to do fine for me

[timber meadow]

bruh i was meme'ing lmao builds fine

[hardy rapids]

No way you were

[timber meadow]

true

[balmy condor]

are you simming latest

[timber meadow]

i take it back i was dead ass

[haughty flicker]

this discord sucks

[fossil sand]

I do for ToP and 10+ keys if the group doesn’t have a big ST pumper

[timber meadow]

oh is there a new build ? dont think i am, i can swap

[balmy condor]

should always be simming latest for what it's worth but priory trinket wasn't simming correctly until thursday night/friday morning

[haughty flicker]

oh

i think i need to go to sleep

i thought he was complaining he couldnt play bleed build in priory

[timber meadow]

@balmy condor thx, that's more like it

[balmy condor]

yah

insanely common weekly build simmer L

latest build simmers stay winning

[timber meadow]

facts

i have dishonoered many with this reveal and will change my ways

[peak bobcat]

Damn mechanocore nerf

My bis delve loot

[fleet pagoda]

ritual knife stonks

[spice surge]

Suspicious energy drinkers stay winning

[fleet pagoda]

actually i have a thistle question, speaking of energy drank

are we still sending tea on opener or just full blown ignoring it? pretending i'm not legally allowed to macro it

[runic hinge]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[fleet pagoda]

ty papi

[runic hinge]

Just macro bby

[waxen oyster]

What was so special about this trinket

The proc rate didnt seem that crazy

[spice surge]

Nothing, its just decent stats

But all trinkets suck now so even the most basic ones are good

[waxen oyster]

It seemed less stats

than s1 crystal

i.e similar proc rates and stat amounts

but 10s buff instead of 20

[cinder bone]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[lethal slate]

I feel like I run out of too much energy on ST to use a tea on pull

[balmy condor]

that's fine

you can just choose to do less damage I guess

if that's what you wanna do

[runic hinge]

The spec just runs out of energy.

It’s just the way it is

Some things will never change

[lethal slate]

So it’s worth more dmg to shiv with tea on pull and CDs then to use it when you’d get the full amount of energy?

[runic hinge]

Better to have tea rolling than to have charges just sitting

[fleet pagoda]

if you're using heroism on pull you're not really missing out on much from that charge in regards to energy while it recoups

[runic hinge]

Like if you don’t use tea until you need energy you’d end up waiting a while before you’d use a charge

[balmy condor]

macroing to shiv is optimal, letting it auto-proc out of cooldowns is equal

so you just macro to shiv and forget

get more burst for no downside

but tea during cds is 100% worth

[waxen oyster]

Im curious if people saying this spec runs out of energy.

Played earlier expac variants

when it was much much slower

[lethal slate]

I did not play rogue before this season

[runic hinge]

Assa fun. Use to pool and just afk during fights tho

[balmy condor]

add pooling into the spec

[drifting cloud]

good old times when you could just talk to aff locks during raids

both afk

[waxen oyster]

Yeah env spamming is kind of cringe

xDDD

Like you have infinite energy in st

[ancient tangle]

could someone explain me why we would want to Fan of knives on 6cp if you have darkest night active ?

[fleet pagoda]

i'd assume because the goal is to activate a 7 cp envenom and FoK won't overcap CP tremendously while being cheaper energy wise than mutilate

but probably mostly because the robot said to do it

[ancient tangle]

ah yes ok seems to be a good reason ur right

thx 🙂

[dreamy rover]

hey whisperdude, on single target opener (M+ build) with no lightweight shiv, i should shiv when theres 8sec left on my kingsbane right?

[west vortex]

wheres the spreadsheet?

[balmy condor]

yes

[dreamy rover]

thanks for the answer dude.

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[nocturne quail]

are we positive the recraft and reequip bug doesnt work anymore ?

[balmy condor]

yes

[cinder bone]

first try ez

[manic sphinx]

why does this happen in sims?

[quasi ember]

is it good?

[dreamy rover]

HEY WHISPER GUY! If i macro thistle to shiv, i dont really need to press thistle manually right?

[cinder bone]

I thought it had passive agi F me

[runic hinge]

Correct

You can macro and take tea off your bars

[dreamy rover]

woah

thats too extreme for me..

why assassination much less buttons compared to sub

[balmy condor]

Second what Tony said

[dreamy rover]

tony twoshivs is a crazy name, just noticed it

[balmy condor]

All the regulars named themselves after bleed build stuff post-buff

There’s also arterial arthur

[dreamy rover]

lmao

[balmy condor]

And some guy named after crimson tempest

And demise

[dreamy rover]

i saw zolyck something too

[balmy condor]

Yeah yeah

[dreamy rover]

*zoldyck

i might aswell rename myself

with my favorite talent

there we go

[balmy condor]

You already got shadowdust in your name

Now you’re just confusing me

[dreamy rover]

now i assasin and subtle

[balmy condor]

Your name doesn’t even fit on my phone anymore

Fucked up

[dreamy rover]

lmao

[balmy condor]

Dragon tempered is pretty cool though

At least thematically, gameplay wise it’s Jack shit obviously

[dreamy rover]

yhea

but its crazy how assassination is trash without its venoms

idk its insanely weird to play with missing poisons and i'd like to know what interaction that fucks us over

[balmy condor]

Venomous wounds

[dreamy rover]

oh wow

yhea pretty fucking important

[balmy condor]

Yeah it’s over half your energy in single target

And it can be almost 80% in aoe

[weary spear]

can someone do the command for weakauras plz

i forget it

nvm found whispyrs

[haughty flicker]

for future reference the wa command is exactly what you'd think it is

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice spire]

I don’t subscribe to weak auras only strong ones

[haughty flicker]

based tbh

[upper wraith]

2-2.5m overall like good or nah for 10s

[dreamy rover]

check warcraftlogs dude

[rotund marsh]

is blizzard stupid?

without playing healer this pos died in 10 seconds

this is actually so fucking dumb

[haughty flicker]

with a healer he was batshit insane broken

and tank brann was literally added for healers

not for dps

[rotund marsh]

ok play a caster in delves with any other brann..

without having something to draw aggro. this shit is actually going to suck

[haughty flicker]

warlocks have pet, priest can dominate mind an npc and do the delve for free, mage has the most defensives on planet earth

[sacred schooner]

just dont use that skill fixed

[haughty flicker]

delves are not hard as clothies

[rotund marsh]

nah when you go and die in 5 melee hits because they tuned these delves poorly youll realize how stupid this was

[haughty flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/milj-milk-skill-issue-spill-issue-spill-gif-25572474

[rotund marsh]

they make tank brann basically necessary, but now with 60% increased damage...

[haughty flicker]

clothies did fine in delves an entire season before tank brann was added

they'll do fine after

[rotund marsh]

when he already did not live at all

[rotund marsh]

it wasnt fun at all

it was actually the most annoying content to do

[haughty flicker]

see above gif

[rotund marsh]

👍

[hot pasture]

assa do less dmg ok but in the execute phase holy shit he owns all specs

[runic hinge]

Yeah execute is very good

[dreamy rover]

what was the buff that made assassination giga cahd

?

[hollow river]

Talk about a juicey comment section

[dreamy rover]

i second this hard

played a warlock, delves were pretty easy

easier than rogues tbh

frost mage also was a piece of cake, easy kiting

[bronze pike]

imma be real

tank brann was broken

i did delves as a clothy

they are not hard

[rotund marsh]

I really hope you guys aren’t talking about 11s

Where brann dies extremely fast and isn’t actually a tank

[balmy condor]

Literally nothing

We’ve just been like this

[runic hinge]

Yeah. You just don’t run him as tank on an 11

[rotund marsh]

Ok so is that not stupid? And now even more so he’s unusable

[fleet pagoda]

healer brann dunks. just pace your potion pick ups, you're safe

[rotund marsh]

Only reason I can do 11s is from the curios which haven’t been touched luckily

But now he’s going to instantly die

[runic hinge]

I did 11’s on my spriest with him as tank fine. You just gotta let him drink between every pack

Now I’ll just do them with him as healer

[rotund marsh]

Well ofc, actually 0 shot he didn’t die 8x and left you there to try and survive

[sacred schooner]

just dont play with him, he still not tuned properly

[rotund marsh]

Yeah I mean if they can fix the bugs with brann in general I’ll just go with healer

Cause it looks like they intend to make him basically shit

[runic hinge]

The only time that it was really bad was the final boss of the Kobyss one that had the giant fish. That was a bitch

[rotund marsh]

Dead in 7 seconds

[haughty flicker]

you're just fundamentally misunderstanding what tank brann was added for

it was not added to make dps delves easier

it was added so healers can actually play healer in delves

healer brann is already what you're looking for

[rotund marsh]

So they want casters to fight enemies point blank

Makes sense

Especially with the melee damage these enemies are doing.. gonna be fun

[haughty flicker]

true if only casters had some form of way to kite or attack from range

[rotund marsh]

Can’t be letting delves be too easy

[haughty flicker]

and even a little dwarf to heal them when they cant

[runic hinge]

I mean they are supposed to be a third pillar of content

[royal lantern]

bro you pick up the healing potions and thats it lol

[fleet pagoda]

theyre easier than ever

[runic hinge]

You just want free loot or what

[rotund marsh]

Do an 11 and see how many melee hits it takes to die

My pets on bm die in 2 seconds

[runic hinge]

I did 4 11’s on a 628 spriest this week and died twice

[rotund marsh]

On demo my felguard lasts about 11-15

[royal lantern]

you can do T8 delves with a fresh max lvl character as dps by just picking up the healing potions lol

[rotund oak]

ikr 😂

big bratwurst fan btw

[rotund marsh]

Tier 11 delves are more efficient

[rotund marsh]

I mean t8 are easy, it’s 11s that are now going to be a nightmare

[rotund oak]

yes they are but u need some gear

[dreamy rover]

dude this is not the crying room for wow delve tuning 💀

[rotund oak]

delves arent hard,they are irrelevant

[dreamy rover]

fake news

why did assassination become meta spec s1?

what happened

[royal lantern]

what meta

[fleet pagoda]

for dungeons? still took like 30m to get invites a few months into the patch

[rotund oak]

que ur own keys friend

u save the time

[fleet pagoda]

i usually do

but that usually just ends up being a ret paladin and i tickling each other for 10 minutes instead

[rotund oak]

lol

i usually inv a hunter and a mage and be done

[royal lantern]

for what lol

its delves

if you care about efficent gameplay, you dont do them

cus m+ exists

[rotund marsh]

This would make sense until you play the game

[balmy condor]

Literally nothing

[runic hinge]

One ptr vid from casualaddict and suddenly everyone rerolled

[buoyant herald]

I think assass just kinda lends itself well to a lot of content, unless your favoured content is simcraft

[rotund marsh]

M+ and efficient only go together when you have a group of people with you, delves can be done solo. Also it’s efficient because you get gilded and the max amount of runed crests in one run

[rotund oak]

casualdaddy is cookin' for him and he's cookin' the entire community along with it

[balmy condor]

We were good in s1 Dragonflight, s2 Dragonflight tier was strong, s3 Dragonflight we got a rework and got aoe options like caustic that made us strong, s1 we maintained the strength and our tier got buffed slightly while caustic got nerfed slightly, s2 we got no changes

What am I supposed to say

We’ve been like this for years

[vestal cliff]

isnt there a weekly cap for gilded in delves

[dreamy rover]

Explain yourself... what post-buff if no buff

[runic hinge]

31

[rotund marsh]

21

31? It’s 7 per run

[dreamy rover]

Oh shi

[runic hinge]

7 from 3 bountiful 11's and then a map gives you 10 more on 11

[royal lantern]

how much you love george?

[balmy condor]

5% buff to sudden demise 6% rupture/ct buff before the patch went live, wasn’t really all that important or meaningful but 3 bleeds being buffed is hype

[rotund marsh]

Ahhh I did my maps on 8s, didn’t know it actually increased further

[balmy condor]

So everyone rolled bleed

Cause hype

And “new build”

Even though it is not new

[runic hinge]

bleed is hype

[balmy condor]

And is very old

Multiple years old

[buoyant herald]

I love how this annoys you so much lol

[haughty flicker]

Bleed is hype

[balmy condor]

But people don’t read guides

[dreamy rover]

Lmao

[haughty flicker]

I like the new build

[runic hinge]

ap+ic in s1 df enjoyers unite

[royal lantern]

"new build", aka the "its marked as the beginner build for low m+ on wowhead"

[buoyant herald]

Yeah brand new bleed build is great

[royal lantern]

[balmy condor]

It just pisses me off how little people actually understand their fucking class

[subtle tundra]

my honest reaction when a spec has more than the 1 build the strimmers play

[balmy condor]

And how little they give a shit

[haughty flicker]

New Chinese bleed build I love it

[buoyant herald]

That’s because you do all the work for them ❤️

[rotund oak]

bold to assume they waste time reading when there are ppl they could ask and copy a site's vommit

[dreamy rover]

When you come out with the fucking chinese build allegation i just really start laughing

[haughty flicker]

If it’s any consolation I give a shit I’m just dumb

[fleet pagoda]

now just we need Exsang to drop in from the top ropes and complete the bleed meta

[golden loom]

https://tenor.com/view/steel-chair-gif-19049284

[rotund oak]

chinese as in ''organic'' for marketing? 😂 bleed build exists years

[buoyant herald]

Solid throwback

[subtle tundra]

we got to p3 rik riverb with our split yesterday 💀

[haughty flicker]

Nah pretty sure it’s new

[dreamy rover]

Not gonna lie I used to be extremely closed minded and played completely exclusively subtlety during dragonflight

[rotund oak]

Whispyr typing intensifies

[balmy condor]

Ain’t no way that’s true when I had to have this exact conversation about “new build” in s3 of Dragonflight when people dropped CT and went full left side

[rotund oak]

nvm

[bronze pike]

you pick healer brann on 11's

but also possible with tank

[subtle tundra]

ok buddy you know who propagated that build

[neat isle]

especially since tank brann is getting a nerf

[dreamy rover]

The chinese

[subtle tundra]

china secret technique

[dreamy rover]

Lmao

[subtle tundra]

dont use this build or get banned

[bronze pike]

delves arnt that difficult tbh, there was def a issue with bran for. i use this term loosely btw

casual delve content/

[golden loom]

you play bleed build for io Varas, I play it for social credit score, we are not the same

[subtle tundra]

i play bleed build so i can stroke my cock