assassination

[balmy condor]

yeah like clapping when the plane lands

[vital flicker]

yeah I don't think anyone is dying for the pvp trinket sims, I was just wondering if it was known about or a common problem

[balmy condor]

yeh

it's just low on my priority list

[hollow river]

its me

i am dying for them

[runic hinge]

same

[past swan]

Anyone know when to break the season 1 4pc? Wait til season 2 4 piece?

[royal lantern]

sim

[potent lance]

what talent we are playing in m+?

[balmy condor]

any

[past swan]

I did.. my Sims says to break it now. For just basic upgrades. That doesn't seem right

[balmy condor]

bleed was good

[hardy crypt]

is there any reason to do delves higher than 8 now?

gear-wise

or should i just do bountiful on 8

[subtle tundra]

do 8

[balmy condor]

11 drops myth crests but aside from that no reason to go over 8

[hardy crypt]

only the bountiful ones orr

[balmy condor]

to which

[subtle tundra]

gah damn 11s?

those are actually hard

[balmy condor]

actually doesn't matter

[subtle tundra]

wtf

[hardy crypt]

like do you get myth crests for just doing 11s or

[balmy condor]

yes

[hardy crypt]

oh, damn

[balmy condor]

bountiful is just the extra chest at the end

[balmy condor]

[hardy crypt]

so delvers bounty and bountiful are purely for the items

[balmy condor]

we in this bitch

[hardy crypt]

and those cap on 8s

[balmy condor]

yes

[hardy crypt]

oki thanks

[cerulean nest]

same just now lol

[subtle tundra]

do you need to do every delve level?

[balmy condor]

I'm doing it for fun and myth crests

[subtle tundra]

yeah but ill have to do delves

for the weekly chest

and the map

vault

[balmy condor]

yeh just do that on 8's

[subtle tundra]

so i wanna know if i gotta do level 1,2,...8

[balmy condor]

I'm doing 11's cause my alternative for myth crests atm is either go to bed and wake up tomorrow and do more keys with guildies

which I'm not doing

cause sleep is dumb

or this

or pug m+

[subtle tundra]

thats cool

[balmy condor]

and I would rather eat the hair off my balls like a cow grazing in a field than pug m+

so delves it is

[subtle tundra]

but can you tell me if i gotta do level 1,2,3...,8

[balmy condor]

I just said

mfer do you read

is this thing on

[subtle tundra]

bro

[balmy condor]

🎤

[subtle tundra]

im asking

if i gotta do 1

and then 2

and then 3

[balmy condor]

yes

[hardy crypt]

yes but

[subtle tundra]

ok

[balmy condor]

of course

[hardy crypt]

you start on 4

[balmy condor]

you gotta unlock

[hardy crypt]

i think?

[balmy condor]

yes

[hardy crypt]

so 4,5,6,7 and

[subtle tundra]

ok see

[balmy condor]

you go 4-5-6-7-8

[hardy crypt]

8s are unlocked

[balmy condor]

and then spam

[subtle tundra]

now you answered me

[balmy condor]

I'll choke you

[hardy crypt]

damn

[subtle tundra]

diffuse magic

[hardy crypt]

keep that in the dms guys

cmon

[subtle tundra]

now you choke yourself

[balmy condor]

damn

spell reflect

unreal

[subtle tundra]

😼

[humble verge]

rofl

tank gave me this since he already had it

giga with speed

[subtle tundra]

fuckin sucks max ilvl comes from 10

[humble verge]

fucking suck my ass mr roma

[subtle tundra]

much harder than last season

[humble verge]

im just kidding please dont

[subtle tundra]

but whispyr why do you need to farm crests now

you will get them regardless this week..

[humble verge]

its about flexing

on you

[subtle tundra]

how?

im a monk main

[humble verge]

🤢

[subtle tundra]

ill do more dps than him with 10 ilvl less

[humble verge]

holy

[balmy condor]

got a hero dagger from raid today and I cba spending crests on it

so I gotta do the cheese

and I wanna do the cheese before raid tomorrow

[subtle tundra]

oh yeaaaaaaah

cool

[haughty flicker]

wait whats the cheese

i like cheese

[vagrant wagon]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

the silly recraft thing on the weapon

[haughty flicker]

oh yeah

[subtle tundra]

i guess i gotta craft 1h on monk too even if 2h is better

cause of that

[balmy condor]

[subtle tundra]

youre a bit mentally not

[haughty flicker]

is there any reason to do above 8

or are you just ill

[balmy condor]

gilded crests

[haughty flicker]

oh i do like those

[royal lantern]

huh

[subtle tundra]

huh what

want a beating or

[royal lantern]

what i want is m+ to be gone

but thats a different topic

wdym much harder

[subtle tundra]

getting max ilvl gear day 1 is much harder this season

cause you gotta do 10

[royal lantern]

dungeon tuning worse or smth

ah ok

[subtle tundra]

meow

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-cat-gif-27161697

[cerulean nest]

when do I want to start doing bountiful delves? vs regular ones

[muted ridge]

ToP good shit with demise

nice duel

[sacred schooner]

how bad is this trinket? dont see it in the list :x

[trim path]

Hey friends sorry to bother. I just picked up assassination and about a minute into a fight I notice I’m lagging in the energy department. Is that normal for the spec or am I just bad?

[balmy condor]

I don't think you can get it higher than that

it's basically world quest trinket

[balmy condor]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[trim path]

Oh heck, thank you!

[hardy crypt]

getting both a hero and a champion turbo-drain 5000 from one delve

about to drain these mfs all night and day

bis setup for m+ fr

[red schooner]

killed my priest with it, top tier

[hexed canopy]

do we play double vanish now in m+?

[balmy condor]

have for a while yes

[hexed canopy]

and one more question, the pinned message says Bleed build in m+ is decent. Is there a Talent Tree to import or is it the Wowhead one?

[balmy condor]

yep, all the builds are on wowhead

[royal lantern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392807916543017000/1346757340879257611/image.png?ex=67c95903&is=67c80783&hm=a5db47ce9378a722a9e7c69dec146913d29ab8e2277fc607296c0b8876a71ae3&

blizz trying to act as if they dont do it on purpose

[haughty flicker]

thats a hell of a vault lmao

just to rub it in

[warm vortex]

Got a mast / crit waist from WB
Waist was my lowest ilevel piece

[tawny geyser]

Whisp, what we doing with the dagger? Do we wait or upgrade it? I see Fuu saying wait week 2 in Sub channel.

[balmy condor]

idk why we would wait

[tawny geyser]

Me neither, just making sure.

[balmy condor]

that's not even what he said

me when I say misinformation on the internet

[brazen sluice]

wtf is this pacemaker trinket? whats the hype about it

[balmy condor]

its good

[warm vortex]

So we just
Get highest crest then make dagger?

[obsidian flint]

Do they only fall in the Minahonda Delvers or in any Trinket?

[balmy condor]

yeh and then you do the recraft thingy for the crest discount and gg

[frigid relic]

.0

.

[balmy condor]

yeah same

[warm vortex]

Oh poggies

Do we run vicious venoms

Asking for a friend (me)

[balmy condor]

what

no

[faint path]

Are we alive? I wanted to play dh but I havent seen dh in keys yet

[warm vortex]

Ven of no longer viscous venoms

[warm vortex]

Bro the season just started idk?
Meta isn’t really set in stone yet as far as I know

[faint path]

Ye but I just wanna start with one character thats why 😄

[hollow river]

Start

Not much has changed since 2 days ago

Barely anyone has new gear

[bleak agate]

how exactly does the recraft/crest discount dagger thing work? sorry i'm very stupid today and need explanation pls lol

[warm vortex]

Lmao as if

I’ve used my goblin connections

Already near bis through illegal means

Mostly extortion

[royal lantern]

so, you have the crests for a dagger on myhic level

you craft it, re-craft with different stats->now the game thinks you had a mythic lvl weapon in both slots and get the crest discount on all other daggers

[balmy condor]

you craft the dagger, then you recraft it with different stats

two daggers

now you don't need to use crests

cause you get the discount

[bleak agate]

oooh, i see, thanks guys ^^

[golden loom]

damn thats nice

[warm vortex]

So you just have one dagger and recraft it into a different dagger

Could you do this with rings too

[balmy condor]

yes

[warm vortex]

Let’s go

[naive crane]

which weapon enchant is best atm for us?

depth?

[warm vortex]

Just sim it dude

[balmy condor]

in what situation

[naive crane]

idk raid i guess

[balmy condor]

probably depths

[warm vortex]

Depends on encounter maybe?

Or depths as it’s better on ST

But you could just sim in the future to find out

[naive crane]

yea true, ty tho

[warm vortex]

soz if I sound grumpy btw

Just at uni watching all my homies do M+

Someone just called me “rat girl”

Lmao

Tbh at this point just take ilevel upgrades

It’s like day 1/2

And it’s hard to make bis lists when we have had this season for such a small amount of time

[royal lantern]

the evolution of old Cat Lady

[warm vortex]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[royal lantern]

bis lists are literally engagment bait with no value

[warm vortex]

As it says, just always sim yourself

But atm just go for upgrades

Yea true

[humble verge]

😴

[warm vortex]

Sometimes there are like pure standouts like grace last season

Yea

[warm vortex]

God your naming me want to just do M+ but I’m at fucking UNI

[royal lantern]

i mean, what is there really to explain

[warm vortex]

The meaning of life

Tyran tell me please

[balmy condor]

they are updated btw

[royal lantern]

all stats make your numbers go higher

simming tells you which items makes you number higher the best

[balmy condor]

you better believe if my guides aren't updated before the patch goes live

I'm getting my peepee exploded

cause it be like that

like there's a billion combinations

that make "bis"

that happens to be one of them

[royal lantern]

cus whisp has to do them, and if he makes all items crit/mastery we get flooded with people saying BUT OTHER STATS SIM HIGHER WHY YOU SAID CRIT MASTERY IS BEST YOU ARE CLUELESS

[warm vortex]

That’s my job

[royal lantern]

had that happen many times

[warm vortex]

Bro Whispyr is a punching bag here

[royal lantern]

like, gearing is just

ilvl higher = better

same ilvl = sim

only exception are trinkets really

[warm vortex]

Uhm achtually-

🤓

[balmy condor]

if I had it my way bis lists would never exist ever again but I have to make like 25 of them every patch so I just sim it and whatever it spits out goes onto the list but at the end of the day there's actually like 150 combinations of crit haste on X slot vs Y slot and crit mast on that ring and mast crit on that neck and gemming haste instead of mast and enchanting crit instead of haste

and it's just like

who gives a shit

I was bis in season 1 gear without ansurek ring

ansurek ring is considered giga bis no?

wasn't an upgrade for me

L

guess the assa guide writer doesn't get it

[royal lantern]

wath a loser tbh

probably stinky aswell

[warm vortex]

I should be writing the Assa guides

Because I like spreading misinformation

Or as someone called it a bit ago

“Mrs. Information “

Which I can’t stop fucking laughing at

Fucking Mrs. Information

[balmy condor]

I used to just put the best 2 trinkets on there, 5 pieces of tier, and then whatever the first leather piece I could right click

but that didn't work either

so this patch I just used my sim and put all that gear on there

and I can't win with that either

the one that sims higher

[warm vortex]

Sims

[balmy condor]

ye

[warm vortex]

And tbh

Just having high ilevel gear and decent stats is good anyway

Unless your purposefully trying to be stupid

Like using healing trinkets and going

[balmy condor]

boots dagger

regardless of your myth daggers

you always craft one

[warm vortex]

“SeE? IlEvEl DoEsN’T mAtTer”

[royal lantern]

im belt dagger

[balmy condor]

sure

[warm vortex]

Boots with patch dagger with ascend?

[royal lantern]

smh now have to recraft

[balmy condor]

I'm wrist dagger idk maybe

[warm vortex]

Also I’m w tryran

[balmy condor]

maybe I'm cloak dagger

maybe I'm uh

[icy comet]

!fuu

[balmy condor]

what else is an off piece

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

wrist

boot

belt

[warm vortex]

Imagine chest dagger

XD

[balmy condor]

cape

[tawdry mica]

Does champion scale to 658 or?

[balmy condor]

nah chest has too much stat

[warm vortex]

Bro I wanna go home and I’ve barely been here

[warm vortex]

Yeye hence why I said imagine

[balmy condor]

champ maxes at 658 yes

[tawdry mica]

[warm vortex]

Only a silly goober would do that

[tawdry mica]

alr cheers

[balmy condor]

go for it

[warm vortex]

I’ll get whatever shoes look the best

Or no

Most comfy

So I can feel good having a stroll round Azeroth

[twilit flint]

Is it normal to have alittle bit of downtime in our rotation?

[warm vortex]

Yes

[twilit flint]

Thanks makes me feel better lol

[warm vortex]

I forgot the comman

!energy

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. As a burst spec our damage is mainly loaded into Deathmark/Shiv and massive Envenoms through stacking multiple nature damage buffs such as Lingering Darkness, Shiv, Darkest Night, Amplifying Poison, and more. This comes with the natural downside of our damage suffering outside of these windows, in part due to the designed lack of energy slowing us down.

Because of this, there is only one minor (0.3%) min-max with energy, which is pooling 3-4 seconds into an upcoming Kingsbane. Ideally this would put you at around 50-60% energy before you enter your Kingsbane, which is more than enough energy alongside thistle tea. Outside of that, spam Envenom and just accept that you will run out of energy. There is nothing you can do to not run out of energy. Playing around Envenom uptime also is not relevant anymore, as Twist the knife allows for two stacks at a time, which reduces wasted uptime dramatically. Without twist the knife, wasting uptime is unavoidable.

[warm vortex]

I mean

Outlaw

[balmy condor]

okay the new delve boss kinda fucks holy

[warm vortex]

But yea Griff if you dislike the downtime Outlaw is no downtime

[warm vortex]

Oh yea I’ve fucked him

Only cause of the pay

[balmy condor]

so many adds

[vale lantern]

what would u say is the easiest 11 to do

[opaque sigil]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

I did fungal hollow

but idk if that's the easiest

[royal lantern]

ill take a hard gues and say fungal

[balmy condor]

I just did it cause it was closest

[vale lantern]

can you go all the way to cap with 11s or nah

[balmy condor]

wdym the cap

[vale lantern]

like 90 crest

[opaque sigil]

how many crests are dropping from 11s?

[balmy condor]

no lmao

[vale lantern]

damn

[balmy condor]

gilded only drops from bountiful 3x a week

so 21 crests

[opaque sigil]

I see

thanks

[vale lantern]

i also dislike that if i choose sub and assassin it puts sub role before assassin making me blue 😦

[royal lantern]

man, i dont even remember where you change that color

[solar wyvern]

I want u to know i randomly saw you post a youtube comment on a Rarran video a couple days ago

You're everywhere

[warm vortex]

Does it have to be bountiful 11

[balmy condor]

yes

[warm vortex]

XD

[misty lark]

we still using same talents from S1/

[warm vortex]

Fuck what one was it

Uhhhh

[warm vortex]

Either the no minions video or the guessing cards from Reddit comments?

[balmy condor]

!guide or read the pins or somethin idk

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[solar wyvern]

I think it was a CB reviewing the starcraft cards in hs

[warm vortex]

That’s cutie patootie

[warm vortex]

OH YEA THAT ONE
Love that series

[solar wyvern]

Rarran has definitely carved a niche in tcgs tho mad respect

[balmy condor]

its not in any way cute 11's are misery and aside from the map there's really not much reason to do anything I'm ngl

[royal lantern]

whisp, quick question, is plater updated

[balmy condor]

yep

[solar wyvern]

And he's become one of us, and is addicted to tww :^)

[royal lantern]

thanks luv

[warm vortex]

I meant to say thanks

[royal lantern]

[warm vortex]

True

[warm vortex]

So for my bountiful
It would be a good idea to do an 11 instead of an 8

[balmy condor]

I mean

[warm vortex]

He means

[balmy condor]

probably not

[golden loom]

when do the logs change from 0 what

[warm vortex]

Oh

[warm vortex]

Is that Whispyr?

[royal lantern]

dont die on pull

[balmy condor]

if you can do an 11 bountiful you can do a +7 m+

[warm vortex]

👀

[balmy condor]

and if you can do a +7 m+

you don't do 11's

[golden loom]

I havent died once..

[warm vortex]

Okok so for tonight as I can’t do a +7

I just do 11

[golden loom]

forgot to include dps 😄

[balmy condor]

like if you need the crests, you do m+, if you want to do solo gear cause no group, you do your bountiful 8's

and if you can't do either you stick a finger up your bum and cry

[bitter solar]

Last option is solid

[balmy condor]

probably thursday

[dim tide]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/316923682607857685/1346745738532491296/New_Project.jpg

[royal lantern]

what if i want to play MH but shit m+ grind happens

[balmy condor]

idk I'm having fun so far

[golden loom]

same

this shit slaps

[solar wyvern]

These dungeons are fun

[balmy condor]

cindermead is overtuned to shit, floodgate is overtuned to lesser shit

[solar wyvern]

Now that they're not ptr difficulty xd

[golden loom]

only thing that im sad about so far is a priest that didnt wanna trade me priory trinket 😦

[royal lantern]

but i wanna play mh

could they not release the Patch 2weeks later

[warm vortex]

So I just do an 8

[balmy condor]

[balmy condor]

yes

[brazen sluice]

where can u get the peacemaker delvs?

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/worgen-warcraft-world-of-warcraft-gif-26162367

[balmy condor]

the what

[opal ginkgo]

Ngl I had fun in heroic yesterday

And I got the priory trink champion track

[brazen sluice]

Pacemaker

[balmy condor]

that's an m+ trinket

[opal ginkgo]

Indeed a good one too

[brazen sluice]

been looking at all dungs none drops it

[balmy condor]

[brazen sluice]

yeh

[balmy condor]

floodgate

[brazen sluice]

oh yeh ty

[opal ginkgo]

That's not bad

[balmy condor]

need my crests tomorrow man

I have a heroic dagger

from raid

675/665 incoming

[opal ginkgo]

We aren't that far yet we got the first 3 down on heroic

[balmy condor]

we got sprocketmonger down and then went first 3 normal

we bang out tomorrow tonight then bandit prog

[warm vortex]

I think my guild is going full norm first

[opal ginkgo]

Bandit is gonna be something

Mugzee as well

[balmy condor]

sprocket already felt like it was gear checking us a bit

[royal lantern]

yeha, we do full normal -> heroic

[golden loom]

was watching Pikaboo and the onlyfangs people do normal and mugzee took like 3 hours

[royal lantern]

[arctic hare]

Is an 8 delve still the maximum for gear? Including the bountiful delves?

[royal lantern]

who

[balmy condor]

okay but those guys are actually so dogshit at the game it's unbelievable they managed to even get to gallywix

[golden loom]

yeah

[balmy condor]

I watched pika for like 3 minutes and wanted to gouge my eyes out

[balmy condor]

yes

[arctic hare]

thanks!

[warm vortex]

Wait is there a goblin called sprocket

[golden loom]

to be far killing gallywix at 599 ilvl is something

[royal lantern]

classic andys or what?

[golden loom]

how do u not know pikaboo if ur playing rogue

[warm vortex]

Ok so it’s not just sprockets

Was gonna say that’s the name of my goblin character (her in game name is vendeten but Sprocket is her real name)

[jade abyss]

motherlothe trinket was not good right?

[balmy condor]

yeah my bad for not typing out sprocketmonger lockenstock every fucking time

[golden loom]

sprocketmonger lock the fuck in

[lofty junco]

bountifull delves u can only do once a day for each bountiful delve right?

[warm vortex]

Thanks Whispyr

[royal lantern]

Whispyr of Tuning Waiting, why are you not doing that?

[warm vortex]

Love ya

[balmy condor]

4 in a week

[lofty junco]

so i could do 4x the same bountiful delve?

[balmy condor]

no

it's 4 different ones every week

[warm vortex]

Classic Andy’s explaining how raiding used to be peak (it literally had nothing to do with the raid they just had less issues at that point in their personal life)

[lofty junco]

so with 5 keys i can do 4 today, and another one tmrw?

[balmy condor]

Is tomorrow a new week

[lofty junco]

then why are we getting 5 keys if u can only do 4?

[warm vortex]

What

[flint lintel]

where can i find the deathstalker weakaura for the add that I apply it on?

so its "marked" highlighted

[balmy condor]

Idk, why did you do 5 keys worth of world quest assignments

[flint lintel]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[flint lintel]

!commands

[balmy condor]

What are you looking for

[flint lintel]

the weakaura

for deathstalkers mark

[balmy condor]

They’re all there

They all track deathstalkers mark

[flint lintel]

on the nameplate?

there was one

[balmy condor]

Okay so you’re looking for a plater then?

[flint lintel]

yeah! plater edit for deathstalker

[balmy condor]

All the platers track deathstalker im pretty sure

Should track it by default unless you filtered it

[flint lintel]

okay got a weakaura now!

https://wago.io/5FWtjYFgC this one is someone is interested

[balmy condor]

wtf

What kind of lunatic makes a weakaura for that

[hardy rapids]

The good kind

[fading wigeon]

Lol that's some redundant over tracking right there lol

[balmy condor]

Why track it on your nameplate with your nameplate addon when you can track it on your nameplate with a separate addon that doesn’t do nameplate stuff but you force it to do nameplate stuff for fun anyway cause fuck you I can do whatever I want

[fluid timber]

Is there a good way to track rupture (and garrote), possibly on plater? I feel like im not propperly applying enough rupture in longer aoe fights

[balmy condor]

Gonna have to be more specific, every rogue plater is gonna be tracking that

[warm vortex]

I just look at what has the large purple glow
Either that or I just don’t change target

[fluid timber]

I tried to make my own script recoloring, the healthbar, when rupture is applied. Its working quite well, but maybe thers a better method i didnt see yet

[balmy condor]

Idk whatever works

I recolor for caustic/deathstalkers

But recoloring for rupture would drive me insane

I just track it normally

[warm vortex]

You aren’t already insane?

[turbid crest]

Do we know wich DJ we have to spam to get good bis ?

[balmy condor]

There’s enough colors in my nameplates with just the m+ mobs and deathstalkers

[balmy condor]

All of them

[fluid timber]

What is normally? Just the buff icon attached to the nameplate?

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[warm vortex]

Just play fatebound, no DM to track

[fluid timber]

I always find myself losing track of doing it that way

[balmy condor]

Losing track of your rupture?

[fluid timber]

Yes, idk i just fail to check if its spread enough and tunnel too much on the same target. Only to see later, oops only 1-2 targets have it

The recoloring has helped me a bit, only tried on dummies tho

[balmy condor]

I mean idk

[fluid timber]

Didnt consider m+ recoloring etc

[balmy condor]

If it’s a long pull and I see my ruptures timing out I just fok rup a couple times and go back to my target

I don’t really have to check or whatever

It just happens

[fluid timber]

Wish it would just happen to me too

[balmy condor]

Like you’re applying all your ruptures at the same time anyway

So they’re all timing out at the same time

So you have your rupture on your target on your weakauras

It blinks to refresh

You go “oh time to refresh rupture”

Fok tab rup fok tab rup fok tab rup

Back to main target

Move on with life

[quaint spindle]

Instructions not clear enough rerolled ret pala

[balmy condor]

Idk maybe I’m making it sound too easy idk what struggles happen when you play or whatever

[honest needle]

whats ahead right now bwtween boomy and assasin rogue for m+ ?

[balmy condor]

But it’s not really rocket science to tab through a couple mobs and then go to big shiny one

Idk how to simplify it with a ui thing

[quaint spindle]

I feel like boomy will always be ahead in higher keys than rogue.

[fluid timber]

Yeah im new to assa, havent rly added weakauras yet. Still on the search. Was trying rotation first if im comfy with it

Will do so when home. Thx for the advice!

[balmy condor]

Np good luck soldier

[honest needle]

@quaint spindle ya i always play rogue i was gonna try my boomy again but i like rogue as well i cant choose

I wanna kno what will b better for higher keys and easier to get groups with

[quaint spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/both-why-not-gif-24288318

[errant swallow]

Good morning my fellow assassins.

[stone eagle]

kush/perfecto playin assassination

[strange python]

Guys exile and ksp played sub

It’s splits

Whatever you see

Doesn’t matter a single bit

[astral plover]

Perfecto is playing dub right now

[nova aspen]

any1 pull an all nighter?

[subtle tundra]

no

cause im responsible

[faint path]

hows assas in keys?

[zenith elm]

So whats the highest keys you've done boys? 😎

[iron shore]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[nova aspen]

[subtle tundra]

a flat none

[faint path]

Any m+ talents recom?

[fading mason]

my caustic spatter isn't proccing. anyone else have this problem?

[gritty cypress]

The usual question of are you sure you have rupture on them and has your Deadly poison fallen off

[fading mason]

yeah, dumb. my WA wasn't showing my poisongs falling off. we good

[real pike]

anyone know why this appears in the overall bis list?

[shy sorrel]

When do we break s1 tier? Is it asap or

[royal lantern]

sim it

[real pike]

any ideas

[limber oyster]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[tight sparrow]

!guidwe

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[tawdry root]

Any tips on dealing with raid adds away from the boss (out of caustic spatter range) that have to be killed? I’m just rupturing to get caustic spatter on one and spamming envenom since they die too quick to spread bleeds on them, but wondering if there’s a better way to hard switch like that

[grave osprey]

If they die too quick id just stay on boss lol

[thorny notch]

How did everyone perform yesterday in raid

[onyx rain]

you dont worry about them

get as much spatter as you can and focus boss

[grave osprey]

If your raid lead complains, tell them to get a clue about assa rogue

[rocky zodiac]

Would you go after adds on 1st Boss on normal/HC If they arent at the Boss? They die really fast

[runic ridge]

I'm still confused about the single charge shiv with kingsbane and deathmark. Bleeds Up, DM, KB, wait 4 seconds, shiv? Or just shiv asap

[grave osprey]

With KB shiv in the last 8 secs

[golden loom]

he is talking about dry shiv

[grave osprey]

So the last tick is enhanced by shov

Oh

[golden loom]

you do it as the first shiv comes back from cooldown (30 seconds after opener cds, so no deathmark kingsbane sequence does not change)

or wait

maybe I am confused

[runic ridge]

I'm talking like your major burst window, lust, etc. 1 shiv charge tho.

[golden loom]

yeah then u shiv last 8 seconds of kingsbane

[runic ridge]

Thanks. I forget the duration of KB off hand.

Also, probably affects most people and melee. There is a ton of clutter with spell effects, etc. Making it hard to do mechanics. With the ability to run ultra on most video cards now. Do you turn some settings off?

[tawdry root]

Lol yeah, we just kept wiping on 3rd boss heroic yesterday from now getting all the bombs so I had to eventually bite the bullet and contribute to the adds far from the boss

I’m glad yall agree on my gut feeling about not worrying about it too much

[grave osprey]

Tell the rdps to stop trolling 🤣

[tawdry root]

One of the ranged DPS were like “the melees aren’t switching to the far away bombs!” like that isn’t the rdps’s damn job lol

[candid seal]

Hi gang, what are the soft cap to aim for regarding our stats? Should we always priorize Crit/Mastery over Haste?

[royal lantern]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[royal lantern]

we are not in 2008 anymore

[warm vortex]

I’m at a point in my assignment where I might just give up on a question

Like just submit it without this question included

[indigo mulch]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[real pike]

anyone know any easy ways to pick up coffer keys?

[analog field]

theater , machine

and then bountiful give you keys and hsards

[real pike]

oh so they reset our keys but we can still get them from the old methods?

[analog field]

yeah exactly

[late surge]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[royal lantern]

meanwhile our prot warrior

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392807916543017000/1346835853615435796/hmm_no.PNG?ex=67c9a222&is=67c850a2&hm=cc0e32f2608d8a97b9775a690f19ff6474b386d1e8edfc067fcfa097d8ecbbbc&

good thing they buffed tank dmg for some reason right

[spice spire]

Fwiw tank damage will fall off pretty hard but warrior (I’m assuming this is colossus) and bdk do insane damage rn

[nova aspen]

year of the spear

[royal lantern]

ye sure

its just hilarious watching a tank being #2 boss dmg

[royal lantern]

for that guy, its ALWAYS year of the spear

[spice spire]

Wait

[royal lantern]

the OG survival chad

[spice spire]

What boss

[nova aspen]

how accurate is the statistics chart

for overall bosses

[spice spire]

There are three types of lies in this world

Lies, damn lies, and statistics. That was always quoted to mark Twain but idk if that’s accurate

[nova aspen]

i just find it hard to believe ww is not number 1

[spice spire]

Why

[proper cosmos]

is Deathstalker bugged? Ambush doesn't seem to apply mark like a lot and doesn't refund energy when you consume the last mark...

[nova aspen]

they be pumpin

shrug

[spice spire]

Are you applying from stealth? That’s the only way dsm applies

As for the energy

[nova aspen]

but if this is even remotely accurate, i laugh at every1 that came in here thinking sin was gonna suck

[spice spire]

If you have a log can be checked

Is this for all bosses or what

There’s also a decent amount of cleave in this raid

[nova aspen]

yea all bosses

heroic

this is all bosses normal

sub stonks

also did dev suck the remaining life force from aug

for extra dam

[rotund oak]

thats not a bad thing tbh

augs dont deserve to exist

[proper cosmos]

yy from stealth. Not in raid though in m+ seems like you don't get energy even with 9+ raptures up some times, like you are playing without poisons

[nova aspen]

agreed

nice to see dev useful for once

[marble hemlock]

https://i.imgur.com/MNh83kb.jpeg

@balmy condor

yo

do i drop kingsbane with this trinket

[flat cradle]

Is that a delve trinket?

[marble hemlock]

ye

and it looks absolutely trash

holy

[royal lantern]

good

delete aug

[nova aspen]

tRue

[frozen glacier]

but i was told assassination was gonna be trash

[rotund oak]

from whom

[nova aspen]

the fotm andies

[rotund oak]

the tier list doers

[nova aspen]

tierlisters

aka poopy heads

[harsh violet]

Anybody else had fun in theater of pain? Sudden Demise is killing allies in it

[marsh raven]

people that were freaking out in this very discord about a 20 days ago too x)

[tight compass]

Other people has asked for sure but cant find the answer, how fast would you craft gilded dagger?, would you do hc first or just send it

[cinder bone]

how much of a dps loss is fatebound over the standard DS builds?

[vapid terrace]

Yeah we did a 3 last night there. I killed our hunter twice, was very confused lol

[viral idol]

Hi everyone, I'm kinda newbie committing in get better with rogues, for raids, what are the main stats for Assasin? I though we had to go all in crit/mast but I see some people with huge amount of haste, and I feel I'm missing something.

[vapid terrace]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[nova aspen]

the dps is nearly the same, but DS is tankier and has a funnel dps profile which is much more valuable

[cinder bone]

Okay thanks, I was thinking of going fate for some of the more hectic/target switch heavy raid fights.

[nova aspen]

in season 1 it was simming the same, even slightly higher but more RNG

idk about season 2

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[nova aspen]

i dont think he will put fatebound in there

maybe he will

[dapper cradle]

blizz will look at this, not account for gear, tierset, and secondary scaling, and nerf sub

https://tenor.com/view/drool-patrick-star-drool-bubble-bubble-duhhh-gif-27447904

[nova aspen]

[cinder bone]

Sub hasn't been fun to play since legion

[thorn fjord]

Was fun S1 and S2 of DF tbh

[grave osprey]

Someone put assa in C tier for m+ gonna reroll Sub.

[dapper cradle]

sub gonna catch unwarranted nerfs this week + next

[grave osprey]

Assa buffs

Coming

[dapper cradle]

this is what''s gonna happen

unwarranted nerfs to sub and buffs that put sin still below sub

💯

[grave osprey]

Outlaw buffs too

Jk, they cooked

[sonic schooner]

Outlo in 2025

Kek

[grave osprey]

Love outlaw but I’m not gonna do double the apm of everyone else for middle of the pack dmg

[deep gyro]

Can we only get 4 coffer keys this week?

[soft surge]

wheres them bleed builds

has anyone seen some coming from china yet

[deep gyro]

Wowhead has it

[soft surge]

they specialize in bleeds

[zenith tree]

I somehow managed to get 5 but I'm pretty sure I had some quest from last season that magically worked

[soft surge]

cos those bleeds are diffing sub everywhere but a boss

[deep gyro]

I think they give u one at start and can get 4 per week. Thank you for giving me hope

[soft surge]

i need a grandmaster bleed specialist from the chinese mountain side

[faint path]

Which talents we are playing for m+? with 2 set

[zenith tree]

I saw people in devle chat going off about myth track GEAR from delve vault if you do 11s

I know if you do higher delves you can get some gilded crests but I saw nothing official about GEAR. Highest gear from delves was heroic I thought

[slate crown]

It's possible there are lies and deceptions in online video game chat channels

[soft surge]

yes

there a ritual knifes in these delves

[spice spire]

I refuse to believe that

[deep gyro]

[royal lantern]

[zenith tree]

Maybe I can upgrade my 619 ritual knife with a new ritual knife

[soft surge]

wouldnt that be grand

id pump my crests straight into it too

[zenith tree]

I got some weird bomb throw trinket that's still worse than my ritual knife 🥲

[soft surge]

i got this dono if good didnt sim cba will ask ai later

maybe it will be well witha ritual knife

[spice spire]

You literally have it in an equipment set already

[soft surge]

i am feeling crafting it

[spice spire]

So you do think it’s good

[soft surge]

and then ask ai to consdier my feels

[spice spire]

[soft surge]

idk its a passive i wooudltn notice unless pressing a few tabs on details

i should get a dynamic on screen stat WA

[radiant otter]

alexa is 3959 agi 1544 crit passive good

[spice spire]

Nah

Go next

Damn

[soft surge]

back to sacblood :misery

[loud trench]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[hexed frost]

For some reason, this pre-historic banger from zero jumped back on my youtube suggestion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=310Cc6tOirk

Vendetta

[humble verge]

PauseChamp

[soft surge]

[hexed frost]

jesus christ

[soft surge]

does this do dammies

[hexed frost]

15K agility

[soft surge]

i forgor it existed since bfa

[spice spire]

Proc has to be abysmal surely

[haughty flicker]

probaly

just highroll proc during cds

[golden loom]

waiting for someone to get an unbeatable parse when every single rng proc in the world just procs

[fallow estuary]

Do i missunderstand the crafting discount dagger thingy?

i crafted a 675 Dagger, after that i got it recrafted with different stats

Still need to pay crests for upgrades

[violet hemlock]

U need to fill both weapon slots

[fallow estuary]

i thought thats the whole reason why we do the recrafting

with different stats

[regal ocean]

Gotta equip the crafted item in both slots

[fallow estuary]

did not work

[unreal tide]

There is more to it than recrafting, there's logging in and out at stages and junk

[regal ocean]

Possibly been fixed, guild mate just tried it with equipping in both slots and relogging

[fallow estuary]

maybe thats it then - didnt relog

[unreal tide]

There is that as well, maybe fixed for S2 have not seen anyone say it worked for them yet

[fallow estuary]

Maybe also because the dagger i'm trying to upgrade is a pvp dagger

[soft surge]

dang that dagger bigg

are there people not crafting that thing

[trim fjord]

I think you need 8s or higher for that i could be wrong.

[golden loom]

7s start dropping gilded

[fallow estuary]

only +7s

was pretty quick getting them, +7s are chill

[golden loom]

but idk the dungeon finder today is a bit crazy

[trim fjord]

Ah ok

[soft surge]

7s are nice

ima do one rn and try get me a fat dagger before sleep

did haste sim best for you @fallow estuary

[patent iron]

i've been doing 12/13s... will i walk a 7?

[odd ingot]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[soft surge]

u have not

[feral silo]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[rustic parrot]

Crafting thing doesn’t work anymore

[silver escarp]

Uh. Does anyone had that bug? Our deathmark staying on one of the 3 bosses in Theater of pain even through it's dead? (on the first boss)

[green pier]

I've got a better one for you - dunno if it's been posted here but might be useful to you if you are currently in ToP....

It seems Sudden Demise kills people in the duel on Xav... so you can't try and win. Ever. 😛

[silver escarp]

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED?!

[green pier]

yep 🙂

it's sudden demise

executing the loser

[silver escarp]

I was thinking of that

But wasn't sure

Nice indie game

Meh ToP isn't great for us in term of loot. I'll skip it

[west vortex]

Fuck gallywix, shadow step is fucked that fight

[warm shard]

Yeah it either sends me off the edge or to the middle of nowhere on the platform

[spice spire]

Has a few decent rings

[spice spire]

I forgot about sd and just assumed bleeds kept ticking

That’s beyond funny

[haughty flicker]

i cant wait to pull that one out on my guildies

[royal lantern]

wait, we get the 2nd spartk this week right

[balmy condor]

no

first spark

[royal lantern]

ok, then im just out of the loop

thought we allready get the first craft allready

[balmy condor]

yah, we do

with the first spark

[royal lantern]

???

i only have 1 half

[balmy condor]

the quest at the catalyst

turns it into a full one

[royal lantern]

i cant turn it in lol

[spice spire]

You have to find the other half doing weekly stuff

[royal lantern]

had to relog so it actually updated the quest

🙂

[spice spire]

[nova aspen]

multi dollar company

[royal lantern]

thats why i was so confused lol

[brave comet]

i finally got it

[spice spire]

Just in time

[humble verge]

looks like we're swapping to sub for raid

[golden loom]

So for normal raid are we playing CT on any of the bosses or just spatter

[balmy condor]

bunkjunker

[shy axle]

are 8 delves not guranteed loot anymore with key? opened the epic chest with a key, no loot, just that questitem. No deaths during run

[haughty flicker]

if its a bountiful delve then its guaranteed loot

if you use a key

[shy axle]

i did

[balmy condor]

then yeah, should be gear from the bountiful chest at the end

[haughty flicker]

might want to write a strongly worded letter to blizzard

because you got ripped off

[west vortex]

lol 2 dagger dropped from one armed bandit, my guild was so salty
I was lit as the only rogue 😂

[balmy condor]

gz on your 1 dagger

[west vortex]

Yeah I took both for now
Gonna try to grind some gilded and make a myth dagger

[severe meadow]

For the bleed build, is it a noticible loss/gain to CT ST?

[balmy condor]

gain

[severe meadow]

ty king

[warm vortex]

What gems we use again

[severe meadow]

On my quest to put the Shamans in the dirt

[west vortex]

Going into heroic today
Any bosses we wanna swap to crimson tempest? Or just mainly st with caustic

[fiery bone]

So, I have a question. Am I only one who notice that darkest night works strange after update. When you trigger it with marks on a target, it will not grant you proc of fan of knifes and if you finish enemy with envenom and DN you will not get DN again. This was different before 11.1.

[manic sphinx]

#assassination message

[west vortex]

Asking about heroic though

Know there is lots more adds and add uptime on heroic

[warm vortex]

How long does it take for The first boss to go into burn on avarage?

[west vortex]

1-1:15 min

[balmy condor]

1:30

[warm vortex]

So should i save DM for it

Just open with KB?

[balmy condor]

yeh you can

[west vortex]

I’d save it, didn’t last night and really felt it in my dps

[warm vortex]

Ah ok

also no tempest?
From what i've see nthere are a lot of ads
Or am i just dumby

[west vortex]

Good amount

[warm vortex]

kk but not nuff for ct trhen

[soft surge]

whats the deal with blessed grip

[warm vortex]

Just quick question, why no tempest boss 1

[slow tulip]

guys, we craft dagger 675 with the spark, right ? thx in advance

[balmy condor]

ST loss for damage amp phase and the adds die really quick, not enough uptime

[prime hull]

What bosses would you take crimson tempest? I'm looking at the cheatsheet and all but 1 of them have adds, so like all of them?

[balmy condor]

bunkjunker

[warm vortex]

Ah thanks pookie

[nova aspen]

video for pookies still coming soon

[keen spruce]

tf man

[manic sphinx]

For our opener, do we cast FoK after garrote? Guide says Rupture, but sometimes I only endup with 4 CP after Ambush + Garrote?

For Raid ST

[golden loom]

yeah if you crit the ambush you can rupture after garrote, otherwise fok to consume the witness proc is good

you kinda fok right before rupture or right after depending on ambush crit rng

[manic sphinx]

kk, so both work - ty ty

[tough oyster]

I feel like i heard alot about assa rogue wouldn’t be good here in s2, i just logged mine and i feel like it did great, alot greater than what others the made it Sound like it would be atleast. Is it just me that feels that or?

[manic sphinx]

For boss immune phases, or mechancis - like Rik Reverb, when you're dodging the 4 x aoe rings by getting thrown up - how do I generally handle my Deathstalker's mark? Do I just let it drop, and then save a Vanish for reapplying it?

[tough oyster]

Would just vanish to reapply, im not a top tier rogue tho, so dont take my Word for it

[soft surge]

what embel for weapoon

wait a minute i have a chat gpt sub

[royal lantern]

"hahahahhahahaa i boil the ocean im so funny"

[sage spade]

guys legendary skipper vs windsinger runed citrine for the raid whats ur opinion?

[royal lantern]

fcking ape

[royal lantern]

windsinger now

[sage spade]

ty

[hearty reef]

xalatoes in the new cutscene

[primal gazelle]

Question for our tier sets, has there been any updates to the tier bonus since this article was written on Jan 9th?

https://www.wowhead.com/news/rogue-war-within-season-2-tier-set-bonuses-reviewed-guide-writer-first-358172

[soft surge]

zendaya

[slow tulip]

hope assa will get buffed a bit, hate "losing" to law in raid :/

[dapper cradle]

SNIFFFFFF

[analog field]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[runic hinge]

SPOiLERS

[soft surge]

how could they buff assa

it does numbers in m+

thats fine for blizzard aint it

[balmy condor]

yes, like three tuning passes and a million bug fixes

[subtle tundra]

just die 7 times in a dungeon and drop good items

[soft surge]

this trinkets good?

[primal gazelle]

Is there an updated article or something I could read about it

[balmy condor]

no

it just does exactly what it says on the tooltip

[primal gazelle]

Was it buffed significantly? How would you rate it vs before

[soft surge]

[spice spire]

Prime tcing huge

[trim path]

So I just got this from a delve. I know its not on the tierlist of trinkets to look out for but I feel like its a lil walmart brand of madqueens mandate for us if we combine it with shiv in our kingsbane window

[balmy condor]

yeah if items worked like that

would be neat, wouldn't it

[tall cradle]

game stuck on this, did anyone else have this happen?

[maiden sierra]

after nerfs, is this still worth?

[balmy condor]

no

[floral shoal]

Do we care about which cartel to level first? Last week I simply took the one with the nicest mount...

[buoyant herald]

No

[slow tulip]

ill be sad if assa stays like this for raid :/

[soft surge]

go to wcl

wym

people playing it and doing numbers

i think that if ur worried about learning sub, compare it to how assas aoe rotation might have felt difficult

its the oppositie this time i feel

subs st rotation very easy but once theres some dynamics thrown in it gets hard

iv not spoiled my self on any of the raids bosses yet so idk

[slow tulip]

i just dont wanna be "suggested" by the guild to play law

[soft surge]

many would love that

[warm vortex]

Wait at any point do we get to cleave boss 2

[soft surge]

theres always one in every raid

safe to say

[spice spire]

Yeah when they clash

[warm vortex]

Not worth running spatter tho right

[haughty flicker]

ib is pretty ass

spatter is probably worth just for the clash

[hot fulcrum]

same

[warm vortex]

Ah ok

[golden loom]

didnt send dm on pull and then we waited for 2 mins before crashing bikes whoops

[spice spire]

[golden loom]

saw a fat 15m envenom though with the lil dry shiv

[spice spire]

Buddy said he likes em dryer than his pops after I’m done with him

Damn

[tight ginkgo]

[spice spire]

Oops

Alchemical chaos

[cloud basin]

So why are we dry shivvin?

[spice spire]

More damage

[west forge]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[deep haven]

What is dry shivving? New to rogue heard this is the place to be

[spice spire]

Lot of info but highly recommend reading #assassination message

Also welcome!

[deep haven]

Cheers! Thanks!

[dapper halo]

sooo.. whats the build for m+ as of now

[balmy condor]

bleed builds doing good

hybrid is doing good

cleave is doing not as good

[grave osprey]

New no kb bleed

[runic hinge]

newwww?

[cloud basin]

Guess I need to macro tea and shiv together now lol. And now that I know why my rotation addon was telling me to dry shiv it helps

[buoyant herald]

i know you lose a bit of damage doing but dropping bonespike to pick up iron wire and KB seems kinda worth?

for the bleed build i mean

[real pike]

so if I go into raid with full talents and rotation from last season I should be alright?

not optimal

but alright

[vapid terrace]

yes

[brave comet]

are gems from season 1 the same as season 2 gems?

[spice spire]

In the ring you just swap windsinger in over skippers

No stat change so it’s just whatever sims best for socket slots

[brave comet]

i thought between seasons gems improve

[deep haven]

Isn't it - Stormbringer, Fathomdwellwer, Windsinger?

[brave comet]

i mean these btw

[deep haven]

I've never seen such sparkly gems in my entire career of poor-money-management

[hollow talon]

when do i shiv with the bleed m+ build

[spice spire]

The answers always been the same , sim what’s best because stats fluctuate

[brave comet]

what i was saying, if you didnt understand me, was that i thought between seasons the old enchantments/gems would be outdated and there would be new tiers for consumables/gems/enchants

but yeah thank you friend

[deep haven]

In my experience, it only changes through expansions, not seasons in that sense 🙂

[soft surge]

to busy at blizz hq for such things

[spice spire]

There’s not but even then, the answer is still the same

[humble verge]

Cumge

[static glacier]

ay gz

[humble verge]

we dropped 2

[static glacier]

none for us

[deep haven]

And i got cloth smh

[static glacier]

still got hc to go though

[trim path]

Not our bis ring but 👀 Delves kinda slap

[spice spire]

It’s not a bad one

[warm vortex]

Raid night going well

Top dps on all bosses minus first as i didn't know that bikes added to dps

[deep haven]

They what?

[placid mist]

details does track them but they get separated on logs

[warm vortex]

Ah ok i was top dps on that then

[spice spire]

I hope raid performance is a hair better tn.
Last night in a 27 group I was struggling

[warm vortex]

Bro

My raid leader just called me ou

"If you are in the trash ball, don't hit anyone unless it's ven"

Bullying

[humble verge]

im actually thinking of maybe giving the card to guildie

whos a sub

if we can somehow get to the boss lmao

surely we will