assassination

[humble verge]

on EU that is

[quiet oar]

i tried it yesterday for Trading post

yeah im eu too

[humble verge]

idk

zmok is basically gunning up plunder now

cause everyone wants the gold lol

but hes sweating

well i guess also people want the stuff from the store too

[subtle tundra]

i tried to play a game of plunderstorm a month ago and took like 5 minutes to start the game

and it was such a dead lobby aswell

only fought 3 people

[humble verge]

but youre NA tho arent you varas

or am i wrong

[subtle tundra]

fuck you

zac propaganda

[humble verge]

im asking you a fucking question

???

hello

[subtle tundra]

im ROMANIAN

🇷🇴

[humble verge]

damn

i was about to say something, but it wouldnt make sense for romania

[static glacier]

i see N A in there

[humble verge]

REAL

[subtle tundra]

MMEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

[humble verge]

btw

[balmy condor]

so like you knew julius caesar and shit? that's pretty cool

[humble verge]

if you que now varas

youll get games

100%

[static glacier]

you can't be serious right meow

[subtle tundra]

yep im part roman too

[humble verge]

he was also great friends with alexander the great

[balmy condor]

my uncles name is roman

[subtle tundra]

like rn??

[humble verge]

YES

HAVE YOU NOT LISTENED

TO WHAT IVE BEEN SA/YING

[subtle tundra]

yeah let me teleport home from work

[humble verge]

YOU ILLTIEREATE UYFUCKJASKC

[balmy condor]

hey now

calm down

[humble verge]

imagine not

living off welfare

WHISPYR

DONT TELL ME ANYTHING

[balmy condor]

only I get to talk to varas like that you rude piece of shit

[humble verge]

YOU CAN SMD

ok that was kind of rude

i am sorry, ill excuse myself

[subtle tundra]

whispyr pin me down

and slap my cheeks

[balmy condor]

which ones

[humble verge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1297199640931991648/1310434269478391809/tuuh.gif

[subtle tundra]

up for interpretation

[balmy condor]

sick

[humble verge]

when is MoP classic up

do we know

[balmy condor]

I'm going to bed xdd

[humble verge]

say what blud

is it like 6am where you live

[subtle tundra]

whats a fun class on mop

meow...

not rogue ofc

[humble verge]

idk like

feral lolle

me when i shovel the ass of soda pyah

[lusty kraken]

I heard warlock was insane during mop

[subtle tundra]

miss me with the snapshotting

[balmy condor]

5

I don’t sleep bro we been knowin this

Keep up

[humble verge]

no i dont know

i thoguth you actually had a respectable job outside doing wowhead and stuff

maybe im wrong

and theres actual money in it

[oak eagle]

its not gonna be fun trying to out roll 19 other people on House of Cards and Gallywix trinket once we get to mythic

[humble verge]

(surely not)

[balmy condor]

No I quit my respectable job to go work at wowhead

[humble verge]

good

now is wowhead paying you more or is that an NDA

[oak eagle]

hopefully I get Priory trinket fast off farming

[balmy condor]

Well I’m working more so I’m getting paid more

[oak eagle]

and not gonna take me like 30 runs like it did with Skardyns

[humble verge]

GIGA

[balmy condor]

That’s how that works typically

[humble verge]

nah

you can like

[oak eagle]

he gets paid per article he puts out

[humble verge]

work more for the same wage

[subtle tundra]

double the drop chance

so should be easier

[humble verge]

if youre on fixed salary

you dumbass

[oak eagle]

lets hope

[humble verge]

just remember to never be TOO good at your job

[oak eagle]

i thought the same thing with Phial out of PF in SL

[balmy condor]

It’s hourly

[oak eagle]

and that took me like 50 runs

[humble verge]

now thats goated

[balmy condor]

But the problem isn’t the money per hour, it’s the hour per week

[humble verge]

wait

[oak eagle]

(50 runs in each season btw)

[humble verge]

i guess youre more like

[oak eagle]

so 150 total PF runs outside of actually pushing keys

[humble verge]

a consultant being paid to write the guides and do the work then i guess

in some way

[oak eagle]

just to farm a stupid trinket

[balmy condor]

Yes all wowhead writers are contractors

By law we’re basically contracted journalists

[humble verge]

now that just sounds its done that way to pay you less

maybe im wrong

[balmy condor]

It’s pretty standard

[humble verge]

well

could you be in a journalist union tho

or does that not make sense

[balmy condor]

Nah that’s not a thing

At least not for this

[rotund oak]

You,at laest,have to be part of a podcast

[humble verge]

have to?

[balmy condor]

We tried that and it sucked

So now I do my own podcast

(Uploading yap sessions to YouTube)

[humble verge]

GOOD

[rotund oak]

yo man,i dont mean like stream and yt stuff only

[subtle tundra]

what was the reason for the cancelation of the pod?

[rotund oak]

more like a broad wow community stuff

with the big boys

[subtle tundra]

The Rogue Cast

[balmy condor]

Planning fell apart

[wise whale]

god i love cock

[subtle tundra]

couldnt have said it better

[rotund oak]

ild love that,didnt work 😦

[humble verge]

nic

e

[subtle tundra]

i blame outlaw

[humble verge]

i blame the j

JOKERS

[balmy condor]

The end of the podcast basically was me setting everything up and finding a time that worked with everyone and also organizing the guests that we wanted and also moderating the discussion and then also recording it for upload and then also managing that

So basically I had to do everything

Even though at the start I said I didn’t want to do that

And then I said either I stop doing everything and someone else does some of it

Or it dies

And so it died

[subtle tundra]

[spice spire]

Just like us

[humble verge]

like any college project

[subtle tundra]

well it was too organized

that can be a problem i guess

[balmy condor]

It was not organized for shit

That was kinda part of the problem

Usually podcasts are like hey once a month once a week sit down and talk and its like around an hour see ya next time

This was more like “hey a patch happened 5 weeks ago so are we doing an episode”

And then 3 days of nothing

And then “yeah I can do tomorrow”

And then “lmao that’s not gonna work obviously”

And then 3 days of nothing

[subtle tundra]

communication problems....

just like my m+ group

[balmy condor]

Just like every human to human interaction for the last 25,000 years

[humble verge]

whats this "m+ group"... youre talking about?

[subtle tundra]

slaving away for an arbitrary number to go up

with the same people

[balmy condor]

Good game

[spice surge]

📈 The chart MUST go up 📈

[red tinsel]

It's like 5 people who all play DPS trying to get together to do M+ but having trouble finding a tank, healer and deciding who gets left behind

[humble verge]

literally me

[subtle tundra]

the hourly reminder of the tank, saying he hates tanking and wishes to be a dps

and we all ignore him

cause he is a tank and he is supposed to suffer

part of the job, bud

[humble verge]

this is why i wont ever tank

:3

[red tinsel]

I guess Blizzard really enforces that

[vernal agate]

Hello, do you guys actually press slice and dice for your opener or do you just use envenom

[balmy condor]

Envenom

[red tinsel]

Now tanks losing their Aug clutch on S2 too, I'm sure they'll be very happy

[humble verge]

slice and dice

is so 11.0.5

[wise whale]

snd for the audio

[humble verge]

i cant actually remember when they removed the requirement

[humble verge]

you have audio on ingame?

[vernal agate]

So I'm guessing there's no point having it on your action bar, ty

[wise whale]

yes i have a toilet noise WA when kb gets parried

[humble verge]

holy shit, please send the mp3 file

[wise whale]

lmao i got u when i get home

[humble verge]

or just send the WA and ill tweak it

if its in a full WA

cause i do love getting KB getting parried on queen

[nova aspen]

toilet noise

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/flashing-toilet-laporta-barca-gif-23561948

we do love toilet flush

sounds

[quiet oar]

[nova aspen]

[rocky zodiac]

its a joke from blizz that this is even possible

[humble verge]

its not a joke

its a fact

[iron carbon]

Every boss trolling you when you press kb

Specially on the DM/KB

[cunning basin]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[patent iron]

wait...outlaw does more on single target? is there science correct?

[golden loom]

outlaw is broken and you will run atleast 5 per raid next patch

[nova aspen]

is it just me or does that look like a 4 month season 2

[patent iron]

is that that big in single target?

[quiet oar]

Summer is going to august/september

isnt it?

[radiant raven]

Ye

[nova aspen]

yea late august

[quiet oar]

So its like 5-6 Months

[radiant raven]

It can also just slip and take longer. Not set in stone, after all.

[quiet oar]

Ye

I think 6 Months is like a thing they do now for a aseason

Every 6 months a season

and every 2 months a patch

0.5 and o.7

[radiant raven]

I think so too, yeah

[quiet oar]

Which would make a lot of sense to do it like that

[golden loom]

nah sorry was trolling, wouldnt look to much at the sims tho 😛

[spice surge]

Oh right i forgot they said theyre redoing visions

[radiant raven]

Really curious what those'll be like. They were a lot of fun in BfA.

[spice surge]

They were kinda cool except you got forced to do them 2 times a week, so hopefully that gets adressed

[radiant raven]

Yeah

[rocky zodiac]

i know its possible and i know its sucks. pull into bin

[patent iron]

most the bosses are going to be split cleave, right?

[forest garden]

I guess Midnight should be in February/March of 2026 then?

[quiet oar]

ye

most likely

[grave osprey]

Oooo new bleed build drops KB. 🤔 gonna be fun trying that out

[raven vapor]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[grave osprey]

Today’s the day boys! YEAR OF THE DAGGER! 🗡️

[lavish geyser]

is sub blowing assa out of the water for m+ dmg? so far

[spice surge]

no

[lavish geyser]

what would a rough comparison be like? just that sub is slightly better?

[balmy condor]

Subs usually are the ones blowing

[lavish geyser]

lol ye, but not now right? the tierset seems very good

[quiet oar]

Facts

[patent iron]

https://tenor.com/view/mochi-mochimons-mochimon-kawaii-cute-gif-13105127215766961484

blowing what

[balmy condor]

After nerfs meh

[spice surge]

I mean theres no definite answer

PTR is ptr

[lavish geyser]

exactly

[spice surge]

Theyll change more stuff

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[lavish geyser]

I know its hard to make a statemt

statement

[balmy condor]

Sub does a hell of a lot more boss damage

If you’re interested in that

[lavish geyser]

its not like im trolling if im not learning sub for m+? i would like to go close to title or hit title next season 😄

[balmy condor]

That depends on 11.1.7 tuning

[lavish geyser]

well yeah but idk, i feel like sub is a bit akward

[wanton spear]

is there anywhere online that shows all the classes, dps sims for comparison numbers?

[spice surge]

No, nor would that be helpful

[warm vortex]

Inb4 "why"

also whispyr what is your sleep pattern

[balmy condor]

Like if title is the goal just play whatever and then evaluate with 11.1.7 going live, that’s when the actual push happens

[balmy condor]

If you can guess it you get a dollar

[warm vortex]

I don't want a dollar

[lavish geyser]

ah okay

[balmy condor]

You can’t but it’s cute to see people try

[wanton spear]

I just want to see what other players should be pulling as well.

err classes**

[lavish geyser]

when does 11.1.7 hit? we are in 11.1.1, now right? or something like that

[spice surge]

Assa = Sustained aoe damage, low but bursty ST
Sub = Big burst and low sustained damage in both ST and Aoe

[balmy condor]

16 weeks

[radiant raven]

11.1 hits today / tomrorow, yeah

[west smelt]

Polyphasic

[warm vortex]

If you are talking about M+ then im p sure the damage varies from dungeon to dungeon, comp to comp
So there isn't really a standard
At least thats what i remember hearing

[lavish geyser]

4 months? isnt that a solid chunk of the season?

[spice surge]

Yes

[balmy condor]

Jokes on you Mr gerbil idk what that means

[spice surge]

Thats whispyrs point

[lavish geyser]

hehe i see

well i might try out sub, just doesnt feel that great imo, like holding stuff and just refreshing bleeds n that.

[balmy condor]

We started season 1 with prot war resto shaman

[lavish geyser]

indeed

[balmy condor]

We ended with prot pala and disc priest

[warm vortex]

I feel like i have nothing to do
I should study

[balmy condor]

So like

YOLO idk

[wanton spear]

@warm vortex Raid wise mainly

[warm vortex]

I wanna pull my hair out cause im angry at smth

[runic inlet]

Practice your drifting

[warm vortex]

Depends on boss
Depends on comp aswell

[lavish geyser]

btw is simming dungeons doable?

like specific ones

[spice surge]

Yes but its not usually helpful

Because its too specific

[wanton spear]

@warm vortex like, how we have the sims for our class i imagine every class has those people

[balmy condor]

They do

[spice surge]

And like, one of your other dpsers dying in cooldowns will swing the entire sim because your cds will line up differently

[lavish geyser]

would you then have to link 4 additional profiles to get a team?

[balmy condor]

No

You’re set up to do a % of the mobs hp

[lavish geyser]

and how do you do this simming, like what do you use to do the sims?

[warm vortex]

Also I’m p sure mechanics are infinitely more important than dps in raid

[balmy condor]

Raidbots and mdt

[lavish geyser]

both or, either or?

[balmy condor]

“And” is a conjunction indication the inclusion of multiple elements in a set

[bitter solar]

What about shadowcraft

I member'

[subtle kiln]

What about IRC

[balmy condor]

Shadowcraft was good the same way Diablo 2 was good

[vapid terrace]

Our new tier isn't snapshot required right? It just happens?

[balmy condor]

Absolutely amazing 20 years ago but if I see someone with it now they’re lost

[balmy condor]

Correct

[bitter solar]

Showing my age

[balmy condor]

[lavish geyser]

but cant it also suggest that you can use em both separately?

[balmy condor]

How would you sim without raidbots

[lavish geyser]

didnt know it was the only platform 🙂

[balmy condor]

I see

You’re pretty new to simming I assume

[severe meadow]

Pen, paper and a calculator of course

[solar wyvern]

I sim with feelscraft

[lavish geyser]

yes, I only do gear sims. and that type of stuff. the biggest sims I have done is just gems and gear compare. that is rly abt it

[balmy condor]

My parents simmed like this can confirm, uphill both ways

[balmy condor]

Oh, that’s like all the sims you need though that’s not bad

I thought this was like first week opening raidbots type shit

[lavish geyser]

yes, I just find it fun to optimize things. so sometimes I just mess around a bit.

hehe no

but have never touched mdt sims. I only use that for planning

[balmy condor]

But yeah raidbots is the only platform because simulationcraft is the only sim

Raidbots sims everything in the cloud on its servers and makes the whole thing more accessible

[lavish geyser]

aaaah

[worthy heart]

is it a wait for tomorrow angle for sims if i'm eu?

[balmy condor]

Season isn’t over tomorrow so not really much to sim

No new gear

[lavish geyser]

you can use another version of the website

[worthy heart]

well i'm refining my rogue

[lavish geyser]

forgot the name, I did it earlier today

[balmy condor]

Yeah you could use mimiron

But idk what the goal is

[worthy heart]

goal would be gems enchants and stuff since i'm juggling around all 3 specs rn

[lavish geyser]

curiousity, played in df prepatch szn 4. so never experienced a season change. so was curious how much dmg we would get for a new season

[worthy heart]

to understand what i should play

[balmy condor]

You don’t need mimiron for that

Just sim your gems for outlaw or sub

Since assa doesn’t give a shit

[worthy heart]

oh ok

[lavish geyser]

vers is good on assa?

[balmy condor]

It’s not not good

[worthy heart]

so it's still stats on assa are fake meta?

[balmy condor]

Ye kinda

[worthy heart]

ok thanks

[lavish geyser]

ok, but like at this point gems arent gonna completly flip your dmg anyways

[balmy condor]

They matter a lot more for the other two than they do for us

So if you’re gonna do one gear set

[lavish geyser]

like haste ones for outlaw does matter

[balmy condor]

You just get more bang for your buck going to those

[solar wyvern]

Sub with haste gems is monkaS, outlaw with mastery gems is MonkaS

[lavish geyser]

but like how much bang do we get my good sir?

[worthy heart]

yea ok, i have a couple of items i can swap around

and i'll look into sub and outlaw then

[balmy condor]

Idk, outside of sim numbers I don’t know anything about stats

[solar wyvern]

True and real

[lavish geyser]

forget abt outlaw btw

[solar wyvern]

Raidbots controls me

[lavish geyser]

dont play that piss, its ded

[clever tartan]

What is currently simming best for raid assa/sub?

[balmy condor]

Some dude earlier hit me with the X% crit X% mastery X% haste and I didn’t even know if it was high or low

Legit 0 fucking clue

Is 40% mastery a lot?

Beats me

[worthy heart]

not if i have triple the hours on it of the hours i have on sub and assa combined

[solar wyvern]

40% is low but yeah doesn't matter really

[golden loom]

this is a easy stat system to understand

[balmy condor]

Simming the best? Outlaw. Simming the best between those two? Sub

[worthy heart]

dont get baited by outlaw sims

[solar wyvern]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

I mean he’s the one who asked what sims higher

[grave osprey]

11.1.7 expected to drop pretty soon?

[lavish geyser]

lol, ye i have 40% on my assa. and some have way more. dont even know how much a 20% increase in mastery will do for dmg.

[balmy condor]

16 weeks

[worthy heart]

yea i know

[golden loom]

also from listening to the max tier list, it seems that 2 of the late bosses are heavily execute based, so in that situation sin probably clears sub right

[balmy condor]

I could sim it and find out but I also couldn’t care less because why would I

[lavish geyser]

dont think of it as 16 weeks. just 9,676,800 seconds

[solar wyvern]

Idk, with 3 big execute importance phases in the last 3 raid bosses, even if assa sims lower it may still be the play

[balmy condor]

Possible

[lavish geyser]

yeah, i dont really care tbh as well. dont think its an insane ammount

but how would you do it? just sim gear that totals to 60%?

[manic quartz]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

You can edit the stats on a profile

Just do some quick math for how much you’d need to add

And then forget the DR breakpoint because what delusional freak memorized the breakpoints on the DR

And then add like 2500 on top to account for it

And gg

[lavish geyser]

lol yeah was just abt to ask

like half of my gear is outlaw gear, and changed it all to crit mast gear, and gained like 30k dps

[balmy condor]

Huge

30k

[lavish geyser]

yeah insane

[worthy heart]

one thing i dont get of assa is, how much do i care about not proccing random tea charges outside of cooldowns?

[balmy condor]

0

[worthy heart]

so i just wing it mut mut envenom

[balmy condor]

Macro tea and forget

[worthy heart]

and have enough resources for the 1min bursts

tea procs under a certain energy threshold tho

or am i tripping

[balmy condor]

Sure does

[wanton spear]

i really wish they would remove that

[nova aspen]

if it procs by accident u lose .2% dps

oh noes

[golden loom]

cant proc if its on cd from macroing it to shiv

[nova aspen]

wipe it

go agane

[worthy heart]

ok

[balmy condor]

Please stop spreading misinformation man

[worthy heart]

i macro do shiv

gg

[balmy condor]

It’s way less than 0.2%

[nova aspen]

o sry i forgot a 0

[worthy heart]

to*

[nova aspen]

.02%

[balmy condor]

Thank you

Jesus Christ man does anyone take this channel seriously anymore

[nova aspen]

[balmy condor]

Ridiculous!

[nova aspen]

secondary stat conversations in 2025

[humble verge]

GUYS SECONDARY > ILVL

TRUST

[golden loom]

pretty funny how u get all info u need about the spec by doing !stats, !tea and !design

[humble verge]

626 > 639

[radiant raven]

Speed -> all

[worthy heart]

ok i try

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[static glacier]

!envenom

[lavish geyser]

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

I’m chopping !design at the kneecaps tomorrow because half of it is “you should maximize envenom uptime”

[static glacier]

!garotte

[balmy condor]

And that’s not right anymore

[static glacier]

!bestchickenwingflavour

😠

[fallow canopy]

!happiness

[worthy heart]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[fallow canopy]

moroes is slacking

[balmy condor]

Lemon pepper obviously

[chrome mirage]

!feetrandomizer

[golden loom]

this is true for me as my skardyns is 626 and the 2 active trinkets that I have at 639 are Sikran one and Overclocked Gear-a-Rang Launcher

[static glacier]

it's deffo in the conversation ye

[worthy heart]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[chrome mirage]

Oops wrong channel

[stoic totem]

dry rub or wet lemon pepper

[lavish geyser]

is Pandemic tracking relevant for dmg?

overall

[golden loom]

so the spec got 33% easier, nice

[fallow canopy]

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[balmy condor]

On dots yeah

[worthy heart]

ok then assa has really not changed in gameplay since early s3 df has it

[balmy condor]

You physically can’t refresh at 0

[balmy condor]

It’s gotten easier

[worthy heart]

less pooling i guess

[lavish geyser]

how do you play around it?

[balmy condor]

They removed like 3 buttons and energy is irrelevant and envenom uptime is irrelevant too

So gg

[balmy condor]

Wdym

If it’s in pandemic you refresh, if it isn’t, you don’t

[earnest remnant]

dot enters pandemic range = refresh it

[balmy condor]

?

[lavish geyser]

well if we track it, isnt it something that you interact with?

[nova aspen]

MY MAN

a fellow lemon pep enjoyer

[onyx scroll]

Whispyr is going to lose what's left of his mind before 11.1 raid even hits

[balmy condor]

[nova aspen]

[balmy condor]

I feel nothing

[earnest remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/joey-joey-tribbian-funny-stare-wink-gif-20597720

ill make you feel something

[onyx scroll]

just wait until blizzard confirms the rogue rework in 11.1.2 and you have to start that up soon

[lavish geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-5099501693730168061

[radiant raven]

Poison toggle?

[warm vortex]

imagine if bliz leans more into enven spam

[balmy condor]

If blizz leans more into envenom spam I’m gonna actually vomit

[lavish geyser]

is pandemic a buff or debuff? i assume debuff?

[balmy condor]

Bro what

It’s just a game mechanic

[lavish geyser]

oh

.-.

[balmy condor]

It’s like gravity

It just exists

[lavish geyser]

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[worthy heart]

wait whispyr, on pure single target there isnt even improved garrote anymore

[balmy condor]

There is

[worthy heart]

what happened

[balmy condor]

It’s on the right side

[nova aspen]

[worthy heart]

i mean

meant*

shrouded suffocation

[balmy condor]

Oh

Yeah

[polar sinew]

Is there a FAQ about sin here ? Or a list of commands like !wa !pandemic etc ?

[balmy condor]

Turns out 20% gar damage sucks when gar does no damage and you also have 0 bitches and don’t care for a handful of cp every 2 min

[patent iron]

wait... should we be smashing envenoms out or staggering them out?

[royal lantern]

using envenom extends rupture by 4 seconds

using envenom while envenom is up reduces the CD if deathmark by 0,5sec for each CP

[earnest remnant]

ban tryan

[balmy condor]

We have faq channels and !help but no guarantee it’ll send every command

[balmy condor]

Smash

[polar sinew]

Ty

[golden loom]

easiest way to find a command is ask a generic question and people will do the command for you

[balmy condor]

Yeh

[royal lantern]

hey, if it allready is "Green Eviscerate, the spec" just go full in at this point

[balmy condor]

They’re not really designed for new people

They’re designed for regulars to not have to repeat themselves 300 times

[earnest remnant]

personally i call it "improved Eviscerate" since it does more than evisc

[worthy heart]

ok so the play is to snapshot garrote at the end of the burst but in the end who cares about garrote right

[balmy condor]

Well you vanish for master assassin generally in single target

[royal lantern]

assa has the better instant dmg finisher

sub has the better rupture dot

makes sense

[balmy condor]

You just happen to also have improved garrote

[royal lantern]

right???

[worthy heart]

ok

[lavish geyser]

is pandemic mentioned in the wowhead guide?

[balmy condor]

Don’t think so

It was at one point but I think pandemic has its own page outside of class guides

So it just lives there now

[lavish geyser]

ok 🙂 I only see spells named pandemic. does it have a category?

[balmy condor]

Mate it’s not a fucking spell it’s just a property of buffs and debuffs in the game

[lavish geyser]

ik mate. but you said it had its own page, so I was just looking for it

and all i saw when searching were spells named pandemic.

[elfin sapphire]

old removed spells from previous patches for other classes

[balmy condor]

Can’t find the guide https://maxroll.gg/wow/resources/pandemic

Just read that man idk

[elfin sapphire]

[humble verge]

well, i do have transmitter - but i dont like using it

[polar sinew]

!snap

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of snapshotting

Bleeds update their tick rate dynamically, which means that if you get a haste proc (which increases our tick rate) from somewhere during the encounter (ie. Power Infusion), the bleeds would automatically tick faster, but the second your haste goes back to normal, the tick rate goes back down as well.

Snapshotting refers to getting that haste proc, reapplying bleeds at the faster tick rate, but instead of the bleeds going back to a slower tick rate when your haste drops, they would continue ticking at a faster rate until they expire or are reapplied.

[humble verge]

in 639

[royal lantern]

whisp, why are people getting mad at "playing fatebound assa"

isnt cringe flipper still kinda ass

[balmy condor]

Who are these people

[royal lantern]

wowgen

[balmy condor]

Why would you take the bait

And then tell me to go look at bait

[royal lantern]

im tired and stupid

[fringe spear]

so you can also look at bait

duh

[polar sinew]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[royal lantern]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[elfin sapphire]

Are we still only taking new 4p when we have all 4 pieces at myth track ilvl

[fringe spear]

whats the point of bait if it doesnt work?

[lavish geyser]

thats a pretty cool feature, especially on hots.

[royal lantern]

that feature is a basic part of the game for like 14 years now mate lol

[humble verge]

so

we are getting a new catalyst currency now

or are they resetting that one too

[barren yew]

is the dry shiv, lingering darkness, darkest night thing the only big change from previous playstyle?

[elfin sapphire]

👍

[balmy condor]

Yes

[patent iron]

are we going to double shiv then?

[humble verge]

honestly, i forget to dry shiv - and could maybe do a bit more damage but idk

[balmy condor]

Are we going to double shiv what

[lofty junco]

btw for this, would that mean that even a nhc eye would be better then most hc trinkets or even mythic trinkets?

[balmy condor]

The tier list is only relevant at the maximum ilvl of each trinket

[patent iron]

are we going to pick up lightweight shiv?

[balmy condor]

We already do

[humble verge]

they lied

imma try que

surely i get a pop

[patent iron]

in m+?

[lavish geyser]

so is pandemic tracking something you have implemented for each dot? since the duration of it is different.

[balmy condor]

Oh no

[humble verge]

waterfuck

[balmy condor]

But it already lines up in m+

[patent iron]

ahh single target sure, mb

[golden loom]

and we do take lightweight shiv in M+ now aswell #BLEEDGANG

[balmy condor]

Basically every weakaura pack created after 2015 will have pandemic tracking

[maiden gale]

any updates for our builds?

[patent iron]

is the bleed build legit?

i feel like i'm getting trolled

[chilly mist]

How is treacherous transmitter holding up?

[barren yew]

so is the goal for the dry shiv in lingering darkness for M+ to hit a prio target with caustic or just hit it whenever it lines up no matter what?

[golden loom]

depends what you mean with legit

[lavish geyser]

doesnt look like mine have it, unless its a part of the number or anything like that. like the yellow number

[balmy condor]

Yeah

[polar sinew]

You will hate me but I dont understand the meaning of this :
It says haste will make our bleeds proc faster
When a haste buff goes off the tick rate go down as well
But how do we "snapshot" our bleeds ? What makes your bleeds keeping the high tick rate and not going down soon as the haste buff goes off ?

It talks about bleeds but does it work on poisons proc too ?

Thanks for help

[golden loom]

well garrote usually lights up at 6 seconds

[balmy condor]

Some platers won’t track it cause they don’t want their nameplates to light up

[elfin sapphire]

these should change colours if its something you have on the profile

nvm im dumb

just get WA to track it my guy

[balmy condor]

We don’t snapshot

It’s not a thing

[lavish geyser]

I see

[balmy condor]

You wouldn’t do it in aoe cause it doesn’t affect caustic

[lavish geyser]

ill check with the guy if it has it 🙂

[polar sinew]

Alright that's clear ty

[barren yew]

oh i guess I misunderstood caustic, the envenom damage itself wouldn't apply?

[golden loom]

shiv makes the target take 30% more nature damage, it doesnt make you deal 30% more, so no extra damage splashes off the target @barren yew

[barren yew]

ohhh that makes so much sense

[balmy condor]

That’s why the note about shiv in aoe in the pins

[barren yew]

I stopped reading too soon, that's on me lmfao

[balmy condor]

Happens

[golden loom]

getting more and more convinced that the crashing problems I am having are a retail problem

have not crashed once on classic..

[radiant raven]

Possibly an addon conflict?

[golden loom]

removed a bunch of weakauras, but for addons I have pretty much the exact same addons on both versions

[balmy condor]

Good time to do a fresh install I guess

[golden loom]

might be the play yeah

[barren yew]

i crashed like 3 times yesterday doing the campaign quest where you talk to the little bot

[golden loom]

its so weird though that every post related to the error message is related to the processor issues

[radiant raven]

Weird

Remember to backup the WTF folder if you do a reinstall, though. And Interface I guess.

[golden loom]

but like Classic is on the retail engine and the graphics settings are pretty much the same

so feel like I would run into it eventually

and probably lose my hardcore character

[radiant raven]

That's why I'm wondering if it's something only active on Retail

[golden loom]

some real freaks on this game though

[humble verge]

man

i got into a top 4

and one of these fucks are just hiding behind a house

[balmy condor]

Ah yes, the echo special

[humble verge]

hahahhahaa

unironically

he wasnt even seen

i saw him just before i died

storm is like gigasmall as well so its hard to see him

always the pricks

[barren yew]

anyone gonna try out the fellowship demo?

[radiant raven]

It's fun. Needs more time still. No rogue class yet so 2/10

[wanton spear]

i'm still waiting for my dune closed beta invite : / been like a year lol

[lavish geyser]

is it possible to copy that pandemic piss from whispyrs profile, to my own? or would i have make it myself from scratch?

[dapper cradle]

so we're gonna be dry shiving now?

no more soaking, sopping, dripping wet shivs?

[humble verge]

say what

oh yeah thato ne

i was asked to pla yit

[rotund oak]

im playing classic for now and it feels nostalgic

alrdy 4 nightslayer pieces

dire maul east gold farming and all

[chilly mist]

you can export the script

[spice spire]

Outside of the last bit this seems pretty fair

[radiant raven]

There is a Rogueish character coming, so I'm just sad it's not in the demo. I think the game is going to be a really good time when it's out fully since they nail the M+ stuff without the.. M+ issues of WoW. And other issues.

Big hammer man is fun though

[dawn stump]

they're fixing the UI right

The wow addon look isn't what they're officially after right

[radiant raven]

Probably going to refine it but they're going for a very specific style (WoW)

[dawn stump]

Yeah fair. I dig the games aesthetic a lot but the UI is just a bit whack

[radiant raven]

Maybe we'll get addons for it to make it better

[wise whale]

BLESSED DAY ASSCHAT RS BUGFIX LIVE TODAY WAHOO

[cloud basin]

Why do people think Circlet will get nerfed into the ground?

[nova aspen]

becuz its equivalent to ilvl 700

[cloud basin]

Isn't that what they wanted?

Like they wanted it used all season to my knowledge

[dapper cradle]

they said they wanted it to stay competitive for a bit

but not bis

[barren yew]

What is RS?

[radiant raven]

Ye, this. I imagine it'll be nerfed 'cos I suspect they wanted it to be worthwhile until mid-to-late Heroic and not.. uh, the entire tier

[dapper cradle]

yeah exactly haha

as of current tuning, it's bis for certain classes for the entire tier

[nova aspen]

the entire tier + heroic in season 3

[barren yew]

Dude I didn’t realize how many of these items are gonna be bis for almost every class/spec. Gonna be chaos

[dapper cradle]

yep

[deep gyro]

Just have a corrupt loot council ez

[dapper cradle]

house of cards and kezan and ring

literally giga omega bis for everyone

[severe meadow]

I’m on loot council for our guild

[dapper cradle]

they need to tune dungeon trinkets and make them more competitive

or release dinars sooner

[nova aspen]

is dinar the renown currency?

[dapper cradle]

it was the renown currency

[golden loom]

no it was removed from renown

[dapper cradle]

they said they removed it and added it somewhere else

no one knows where though

[golden loom]

and not yet been announced how or if its coming back

[dapper cradle]

I don't think they do either

[nova aspen]

they announced renown rewards already

[dapper cradle]

maybe they'll just do one of those dungeon weekly events

[nova aspen]

at tiers 17-19 we can buy bis trinkets

[dapper cradle]

where you get it instead of the random heroic piece

[spice spire]

Priory signet was close for us

[golden loom]

no it was removed

from renown track

[nova aspen]

ohhh

[dapper cradle]

i'm close right now king, just keep going

[spice spire]

I need you to seek help bestie

[severe meadow]

He’s seeking release, help a bro out

[spice surge]

It was removed from the renown track yes

But they said theyre likely to introduce it in some form in a .7 type patch

[dapper cradle]

not helping your homie as he's about to go over the cliff

[spice surge]

But either way week 17 is like july, that shit is so far away

[dapper cradle]

could not be me

[spice spire]

Help a man release, and he’ll be back the next day, teach a man how to release and he’ll bust for life

[nova aspen]

so now we go from getting what we want in 1-2 months to probably never getting it

nice

[barren yew]

So since Kezan and House of cards are ridiculously competitive, I just farm priory and Seaforium charge?

[dapper cradle]

goonrinthians 6:9

[spice surge]

It was on week 17 anyway, so its more like 4 months

[spice spire]

Kezan is a non-negotiable unfortunately

[spice surge]

Apparently something was sus in sims

[spice spire]

Oh?

[spice surge]

Its good, just less good than initial sims said

[spice spire]

Winnable?

[spice surge]

Its like 0.5% ahead now for sub

Rather than 2%

[spice spire]

Okay that makes way more sense

[dapper cradle]

BASED

[spice spire]

Yeah because it was like 3% ahead of the next thing

[dapper cradle]

lemme pull a shadow knife with my first delve map

i'd bust so hard

[golden loom]

also like myth track kezan isnt something you just get

[dapper cradle]

and send quake a vod

[spice surge]

So pacemaker might be bis for assa since it lines up with cds

[spice spire]

While signet and house of cards was like sub 0.1%

[spice surge]

the crit every 60s one

[spice spire]

Ye

[spice surge]

Love me the goonsquad though

[dapper cradle]

goon squad trinket gonna be insane

making tribute pics with the boys

[spice spire]

It’s crit chance is going to be 150% for somnius

ESP his warrior, gapingbussy

[barren yew]

2 minute cd. Perfect for ass

[dapper cradle]

i'm always gonna proc the whole goon squad when it goes off

[limber walrus]

The updated guides mention dinars, are we getting dinars still? I thought they removed them

[spice spire]

#assassination message

[subtle kiln]

Guys is mut rogue viable?

[deep gyro]

[humble verge]

[spice surge]

Need a soundbyte of somebody yelling "ITS GOONING TIME" whenever BL gets used with that trinket equiped fr fr

[radiant raven]

And then Pedro plays after?

[humble verge]

if you pay

[subtle kiln]

I can only offer APT

https://tenor.com/view/dog-chill-apt-apt-apt-apt-gif-16505586974465544801

[humble verge]

i take a dollar for every second and then i get royalties on the amount usages

[barren sleet]

For a casual 2500ish m+ / heroic raider, are assa and sub close enough to not switch to playing Sub?

[golden loom]

u can play whatever you want unless you are pushing world first

[radiant raven]

You can def play whichever you enjoy without worry.

[tawdry root]

Is sub simming highest?

[spice spire]

Yes

They’re close enough it doesn’t matter

[barren sleet]

Now the more imporant question, going to race change from Tauren and need to figure out which race is going to look the best in the new tier

[golden loom]

human female or void elf or blood elf or night elf

[spice spire]

Since tier covers everything up yesh it’s the same as usual

[barren yew]

Am I the only one who hates the tier?

[subtle kiln]

We’re both shit brother.

[deep gyro]

[spice spire]

Yeah

But heroic 2500 nothing matters

[subtle kiln]

it’s means a mount no?

That matters.

I waiting for rank 1 quake bleeder run

[soft surge]

the tier looks bad

[golden loom]

lookswise? it looks sick imo

[radiant raven]

Highwayman pirate outfit, hell yeah

[night smelt]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[forest garden]

The look of our tier is literally the only reason I'm sticking with rogue

[spice spire]

Cutthroat highwayman, my goat

[subtle kiln]

Ronald McDonald pirate edition? Kekw

[spice spire]

Dog I’ve done 13s only this tier. I’m shit - washed even

[radiant raven]

High5 team washed (I was never unwashed)

[subtle kiln]

This is your time. Everything bleeding.

[night smelt]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[spice spire]

Kb less build god bless

[subtle kiln]

Screw you KB parry. I just won’t KB

[indigo comet]

is this trinket good for sin?

[subtle kiln]

Goated for Sub

[indigo comet]

i also have this

but i don't think anyone likes it

[spice spire]

It’s very good. If you can find a champ track one it FUCKS

This is a sim angle tho

[indigo comet]

it is champion indeed

[indigo comet]

[sharp atlas]

M+ is closed now right?

[subtle kiln]

Just upgrade it. It’s good. You hit payday with champion drop

[indigo comet]

on eu no

[patent iron]

who can we speak to at blizz about this rework.?

[spice spire]

[subtle kiln]

The dev: @spice spire

[spice spire]

No no

I quit during the rework

Actually

The week before

(Playing wow that is)

[rotund oak]

we love u nonetheless

(well we love ur dogo,u come with the package lul)

(joking ofc)

[shrewd night]

Nono, we love him

[tawny geyser]

Oh, hi Koffi! 🙂

[shrewd night]

Blazzer the legend

[tawny geyser]

Had no idea you're the boss here, that's crazy 😄

[junior yoke]

Hunts are so back

[spice spire]

Pretty fruity of you king

[plain onyx]

m+ build is still the same as S1 right?

[hearty seal]

with 11.1 changes, for M+, what'd be better - KB+Master Assassin+Sanguine Blades or Arterial Pressure+TTB+Light Shiv? and is it a viable choice to dump SBS instead of KB to get Arterial?

ah well, should just sim tomorrow - that is, if Raidbots won't just crash from the influx

[silver escarp]

So, fellow ppl from NA. Are the M0 open? Or not please?

[silver escarp]

Okay thanks

[hearty seal]

(kind of a weird choice ngl)

[silver escarp]

Got too many different answers from everywhere

[silver escarp]

yea

[spice spire]

Also NA won’t be up for another 6 hours minimum

[silver escarp]

That's true

[mighty vine]

Its probably for race or whatever since m0 gives champ track and upgraded to max its like 658. I'm sure there'd be some shenanigans going on the first week to just power farm crests to max upgrade that gear.

Same reason why m0 is weekly and not daily as well

[bright charm]

i consider it divine intervention if the servers are up before wednesday honestly

[tight sparrow]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[wicked scaffold]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[soft surge]

SERVERS UP

[nocturne quail]

Stop it

[silver escarp]

Still no point in M0 only next week, since guilds doing RWF will just go M+

[golden loom]

Actually so hyped to watch the race this time around since I know whats going on

was playing classic and started leveling during last race

[manic quartz]

@white lance I updated your WA pack, minor issue i found that atleast for me energy bar doesnt change colour when at or above 80% of energy like it should unless i change Trigger4 custom from Coloring to Active, i dont even know what these do but i managed to fix it like this, hope it doesnt break anything else.

[drifting cloud]

Season2 doesnt start with patch, its as simple as that

So how can you have s2 gear even if its m0 if were not in s2 yet

[silver escarp]

Let me rephrase that : it's dumb to put 658 in M0, when ppl will just go +2 when season hit

[split veldt]

so is this gonna be a Sin or Sub patch, do we know yet?

[soft surge]

we know

[brazen wedge]

Is assassin gonna have a good time switching targets in the new raid?

[royal lantern]

raid looks kinda like spread aoe

aka balance druid heaven

[brazen wedge]

Some m+ requires prio switching targets too

[royal lantern]

i only care abot serious stuff

[brazen wedge]

So just like 11.0 focus boss, spatter will take care of the rest

[royal lantern]

i mean, mostly probs ye

its kinda why spatter exists

[warm vortex]

So next week we can do what
The new dungeon, the new zone, mythic 0 or whut

[pliant remnant]

Just bump the range up to like 40 yards

ez spread cleave

[spice spire]

Reset is solely for new area and rep grind

No m0

[ionic fox]

Imagine trying to do Grim Batol 3rd boss with a huge range on spatter xD

[warm vortex]

Okie

thakns quakey

[spice spire]

No need tank just brings into corner so you can spatter onto him anyway

[ionic fox]

I know... but with that spatter range pull the whole dungeon

xD

[final phoenix]

i wonder if i should stay assas or swap to sub for s2... hmm

[ionic fox]

I personally am excited to not need resealth so much in M+

[nocturne quail]

Why not both

[final phoenix]

xD

[lusty kraken]

how so

[ionic fox]

Playing sub

[lusty kraken]

don't you want to spread bleeds faster?

oh

[final phoenix]

oh

true

[young knot]

xd

[lusty kraken]

just wait until they buff assa

then it's assa meta again

[final phoenix]

yea probably

[ionic fox]

It is a win-win

[final phoenix]

ST is a bit low atm for assa

[ionic fox]

because Assa is love

[lusty kraken]

buff kingsbane, nerf spatter

[final phoenix]

i guess ill start assa and see how it goes, and yea rob

[ionic fox]

Dave, Rob, & Bob talking about ass

[final phoenix]

or just buff kb

dat ass

[spice surge]

Nerf kb, buff garrotes and rupture

[ionic fox]

^

[final phoenix]

buff auto attack, nerf everything

;p

[spice surge]

Hes deathstalker posting

[ionic fox]

Let me tmog my daggers to swords

[final phoenix]

i wanna tmog my daggers to warglaives

for edgy meme material

[spice spire]

Can’t wait for momentum of despair posting

buff fok damage

Maybe that’s clear the witnesses posting

[spice surge]

Fok yeah

[bright turret]

Is what each spec's DPS lookling like for S2 posted anywhere?

[clever tartan]

Can you sm me one too pls

[uneven marsh]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[lean plover]

buff poison bomb, make it op

[bright turret]

what happened to poor lil sin

[spice spire]

Everything changed we stayed the same

[maiden sierra]

@balmy condor can you do me a favor and make the very rare cloak be on the wowhead bis list for 5 mins so i can convince my loot council to give me the cloak when it drops?

do a homie a favor

[spice spire]

He’s asleep

Also sucks to suck

[maiden sierra]

whispyr doesnt sleep

[golden loom]

Bis lists for loot council decisions, its cooked

[spice spire]

Barely but he does

[pliant remnant]

BIS lists

[nova flax]

Anyone who knows Whispyr knows he effectively chooses random pieces for his bis lists

[golden loom]

Might give him a stroke when he wakes up

[nova flax]

As he doesnt believe in them

[subtle tundra]

@lethal heart rip blumpkin gearing

[spice spire]

They’re not entirely random

They were very specifically picked based on his best sim at the time

[maiden sierra]

we have rules of what can be considered bis, only trinkets and very rare items if they are really much better than anything else.

[spice spire]

I was with him when he made it

And at the time was the pre-buff which should change almost nothing

[maiden sierra]

niether do i, i just want the cloak for a meme and im trying to gaslight my loot council

[golden loom]

Just say its a major upgrade

[radiant raven]

Just send them a screenshot with the cloak in the list suddenly

[maiden sierra]

i do not dare to fuck with the loot council

[radiant raven]

Valid

[subtle kiln]

On LC. Don’t fuck around.

[warm vortex]

Anyonw know what time it launches for Eu

[severe meadow]

Was canceled for EU, sorry

[lean plover]

at this rate, same time as na

[warm vortex]

?

[warm vortex]

Yipee no more wow

[radiant raven]

Typically in the morning.

[warm vortex]

Kk

[radiant raven]

7 - 8 AM GMT is when I've seen it go up in the past. Who knows right now though. Maybe longer.

[warm vortex]

only asking cause tomorrow is a workout day

[radiant raven]

Roll outta bed and roll into WoW.

[frozen glacier]

[spice spire]

Time to superset that shit king

[drifting cloud]

weve had patches where they went live before our weekly reset

so its literally just blizz rng

[warm vortex]

Jump outta bed

Into the gym

then roll onto wow

[radiant raven]

Hell yeah

Put WoW on a treadmill. Tie your character to your own movement.

[warm vortex]

How the fuck do i spinning crane kick on my treadmill

[spice spire]

Perks of having dumbbells at home that work for me

[radiant raven]

High5

My gym is right behind me. It rules. Gaming and lifting.

[radiant raven]

really carefully

[warm vortex]

Same

[spice spire]

I need heavier but it’s getting v expensive

[warm vortex]

Bro your built like a monkey

no shit

[runic inlet]

Dropping a big turbo in my new car this evening

[spice spire]

In game or irl?

[spice spire]

Okay but like

[warm vortex]

Tbh i try and work all the areas of my body

and rn im ok with smol weights

[runic inlet]

Ig ofc I'm NA scum

[radiant raven]

Need to throw on the speed racer theme and blast it as you drift around

[spice spire]

Why am I forced to drop 172 TWICE for gains

[warm vortex]

Yikers

[radiant raven]

Expensive gains 😦

[warm vortex]

I assume thats for deadlift or smth
Not curls n such
Or are you build like a brick

[spice spire]

That’s for dumbell bench and rows

And even on db bench it’s lighter but helps force form

[warm vortex]

Kk

[spice spire]

I can’t funnel deadlift

[marble hemlock]

can i buy you for that price?

[spice spire]

Dumbell

[spice spire]

Honestly id meow for the set

[warm vortex]

Tbh

I've only been working out for like

a few weeks

[marble hemlock]

screenshotting that, goes straight into the evidence folder

[warm vortex]

But i've been eating healthier for a few months now

[spice spire]

Good for you king

[spice spire]

I started eating healthier a year before I started working out

[warm vortex]

No crisps since last sep
No chocolate (minus some stuff i got given during christmas and bday) since sep
No sweets/candy since sep

Also have at most 1 takout amonth
Always have the same breakfast, most of the time just salad and chiken for dinner

[dapper cradle]

🫡

[radiant raven]

[lethal heart]

@subtle tundra

its joever

[runic hinge]

[lethal heart]

would only need 500 schlussens next reset to upgrade/craft everything

[spice spire]

I currently have 5 meals a day and one shake

For 2400 calories

[subtle tundra]

my meal plan

is

eat as much

[warm vortex]

Oh fair

[subtle tundra]

AS I WANT

[warm vortex]

I probably should eat more tbh

[spice spire]

I’m on a 1k deficit currently

[warm vortex]

I try and eat healthy tho

Porridge and berries bfast
Usuauly some nuts and rasins for dinner alongside a sandwich
And chicken and lettuce for lunjch

[hexed frost]

Should I run this for my 15 arak tonight?

[amber isle]

Can you shadowmeld into stealth mid pack?