#assassination

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winged sun
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ye

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no longer perma 10

spice spire
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Oh no

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RIP

winged sun
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i didnt test it alot tho? i recall losing stacks at weird times

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like im not sure if i was losing it in dance or not

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i just had limited time and it seemed fixed

lean plover
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I think you are losing set way more often bc of sec tech clones

winged sun
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idk

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i think 15% chance to remove all stacks is harsh

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u just never have good uptime

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heres the sub tier

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info

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havent tested sin much either i think it just works in a different way now tho

lean plover
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I expect it to get buffed

burnt star
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and u cant lose stack in sdnvm i was wrong

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this set has u not using spender outside of cd

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beside rupt

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to not lose stack

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cancer

golden loom
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but you also have to use spenders to get dance cd back monkahmm

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sounds aids

burnt star
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rupture is a spender that doesnt consome stack

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and contribuet to cdr

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lol

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see how cancerous this is

golden loom
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yeah but are u actually gonna sit and spam rupture kekw

burnt star
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and damage outside of burst has been known to not be that good

lofty junco
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after getting the island ring to 658 and having all the 3 gems socket, it becomes not worht doing anymore?

burnt star
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u dont spam much outside of dance btw

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u lack a lot of energy in st

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and ur dancing at almost every 30 sec

golden loom
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ye I guess thats true

burnt star
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i just dont get who designed the whole melee tier

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caster one isnt as aids

golden loom
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caster stuff looks sick imo without further knowledge

spice surge
burnt star
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XD

spice spire
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No shot

spice surge
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So while you still have 10 stacks, the clones dont benefit from the 60% from the 4p most of the time

whole snow
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bro what

spice surge
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About 2/3 of the time the clones just dont get the +60% dmg from 4p

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For seemingly no reason

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So my guess is that they somehow roll to remove their stacks independantly

burnt star
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so the theorized "giga 20%"

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isnt that much anymore

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in real life

spice surge
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"anymore"

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This is likely to get fixed though

burnt star
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they have a lot of issue with those clone

spice surge
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Yes

burnt star
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i dont wanna doom, but i dont have a lot of hope

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lol

spice surge
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Clones and shadowed finishers are bugged 10000% of the time when they introduce new things

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Only exception since DF release is nerubar tier set

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That one worked as it should on release. Nothing else has

burnt star
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maybe that why rogue doesnt getr a lot of bluepost attention.. 100% of the effort is trying to fix the 10000 bug

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for both sin/sub

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everytime

worldly sail
hearty reef
earnest remnant
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when you can just deal with it

spice surge
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So its pointless for them to put effort into that

gusty mirage
wanton spear
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I get that we don't get any attention but like, can they at least get rid of the auto tea at 50 energy b/s that nobody wanted... or make it a toggle or something

spice spire
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You can play around it

wanton spear
# spice spire You can play around it

you can, but its still a feels bad to hit like 48 energy and just lose a tea stack because you needed to get that quick finisher off before a boss mechanic

spice surge
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Its 30, but ye

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It also doesnt particularly matter from a numerical standpoint

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It just feels bad

fallow canopy
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Daily reminder to be a tea scalder instead of a tea malder

golden loom
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idk the tea thing is like the smallest problem in the world

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legit does not matter

wanton spear
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it just seems like such a simple qol of making it a toggle

golden loom
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you would still just macro it to shiv and forget about it

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cause having it autoproc is fine

wanton spear
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i hit it natty in case i only have 1 charge for 2nd kb

golden loom
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that cant happen if you macro it to shiv

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you use the macro twice during opening deathmark -> those teas go on 1 min CD, they are back up for kingsbane

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like maybe if you forget to kingsbane when it comes back up and just spam and auto use teas maybe but

wanton spear
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its a safety tea, in case i proc the auto tea from being bad

golden loom
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the main thing is, you cant autoproc tea if its on cd

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and if you use stuff on cd, they line up perfectly šŸ™‚

wanton spear
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i can give macro'ing it a shot.

golden loom
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
wanton spear
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right because its off the gcd maybe i'm just wasting tea's spamming the button to make sure it goes off

golden loom
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ye

wanton spear
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you know that makes sense why it says i have so much wasted energy gain in my logs... jesus i'm bad

wanton spear
wise whale
wanton spear
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so do u run a shiv macro and a regular shiv then? also why no 2x tea in opener

desert crest
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It wastes energy

golden loom
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what do you mean dont tea twice in opener

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what are we cooking here

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not only do you get tea cds rolling, you also gain the mastery during your deathmark

lusty kraken
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as long as you don't waste energy it should be fine to double tea I think

golden loom
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you dont care about the energy anyways during deathmark

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you have infinite

lusty kraken
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or just run a sim and see what the simbot does

golden loom
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but you dont just sit and hold tea charges

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while in cooldowns

desert crest
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You use 1 charge tho

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so it is on cooldown idk tho might be better to use it twice

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i know i do it

golden loom
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I mean by nature of macroing tea to shiv (which is optimal) you use 2 teas

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idk what we are trying to say

wanton spear
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also figured youwant the mastery buff for the end of the kb primarly anyway

desert crest
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Yeah that aswell

golden loom
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like we are not innovating new tech here guys

wanton spear
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^

sharp viper
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maybe you can innovate stuff in season 2

spice spire
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How about you innovate this hypergrab

golden loom
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now this tea I actually have to think about when to use

wanton spear
golden loom
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meow

spice spire
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What is your ducking naming scheme

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Fucking even

golden loom
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ignore lebron

spice spire
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I could never

golden loom
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lebron only made it to level 30... Jordan however made it to 60

sharp viper
spice spire
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I do?

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Except for 2

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They’re all quake related

sharp viper
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you do? enlighten me so

warm vortex
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Quake are you named after the game quake

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Or just because you wanted the name quake

spice spire
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I am not

warm vortex
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Vaeira

spice spire
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Makeitquake was funny rhyme

warm vortex
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give me a good transmog

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Oh fair

spice spire
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That was the beginning middle and end of my thoughts

warm vortex
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youi played the og quake?

spice spire
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Dog how old do you think I am

warm vortex
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I have

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and im 19

spice spire
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(I was an unreal tournament gamer)

warm vortex
golden loom
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bro played quake before quake released

warm vortex
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Longest queue ive had for love is in the air

sharp viper
warm vortex
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Ew

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elf

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Nice mog tho

golden loom
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elf based

warm vortex
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Hold on i saw a cool one
I wanna show you to see what you think

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Saw someone have an assasin creed mog

sharp viper
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someone had a better altair transmog somewhere

warm vortex
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Tbh id wanna make more mogs of my own

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but im super uncreative

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And i just got with tier sets

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Like current mog on this alty

golden loom
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bro is gnome kyveza

sharp viper
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Gno'veza

sharp viper
warm vortex
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Could do maybe

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But idk how id do it
I just go with sets i like
Tbh most of the time i just have a white shirt + shorts

sharp viper
warm vortex
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Tbh

sharp viper
warm vortex
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I'm a goblin
So something that looks cool on most chars would look eh on mine
Most likeyl

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Tbh i lke doing it with my bm

golden loom
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I wish I could play classic and retail at the same time on the same account, aint no way I am paying for a extra sub

sharp viper
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I got some time over the weekend, so maybe I'll cook something and/or help you out if you want

warm vortex
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Im pretty sure te only mog i have that isnt a ocmplete set just makes my DK look homesless

nova aspen
warm vortex
nova aspen
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i hate being a gnome

golden loom
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human gigabis, void elf 2nd bis

spice surge
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Y'all just havent realized the true endgame is being panda male

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Utter perfection and peak performance

nova aspen
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i can never take panda seriously LUL

warm vortex
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You mean pandaran female?

spice surge
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No, male

sharp viper
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male panda > female panda

warm vortex
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You spell female weird

spice surge
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Big chonky male with a belly that flops when you sit down

sharp viper
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male pandas are for beer belly enthusiasts, female pandas are for furries

golden loom
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male panda would not fit with my name

spice surge
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Female panda is some karamelldansen type shit
Male panda on that kazoo train fr fr fr

golden loom
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did you guys listen to the gallywix theme

warm vortex
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Tbh

golden loom
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it goes fucking crazy

warm vortex
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Both are pretty furry

sharp viper
spice surge
warm vortex
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Like 80% of furries like fat stuff

golden loom
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I swear they are gonna hit the theme of this patch out of the park

sharp viper
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How'd you know unless you are one suskaygeagreegebusiness

spice surge
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Here is the gallywix one

warm vortex
golden loom
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also, there is for SURE a mythic phase after listening to the theme kekw

sharp viper
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I never asked a question starege

spice surge
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Ye the dungeon journal heavily suggests it too

golden loom
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like the pause at 7:45 OMEGALUL

sharp viper
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just a rhetorical one kekdog

warm vortex
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Thats still a question

golden loom
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just gonna drift around town vibing to music for a big part of next patch

warm vortex
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Next patch idk if it’s assa, outlaw or sub season

golden loom
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just play all 3

warm vortex
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Nah
I wanna focus on one and get the best possible gear I cans

golden loom
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well sub and sin overlap pretty well

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and then once ur geard just have loot spec outlaw while playing sin/sub EZ

dawn heath
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do wejust stop here

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3600 clean it looks nice

golden loom
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that does look clean af

dawn heath
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just one minor pr oblem

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its rounded up

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šŸ’€

warm vortex
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Your an elf?

dawn heath
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yes

warm vortex
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I remember my rating being 2499.9

warm vortex
golden loom
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the BRD shit ruins the profile kekw

dawn heath
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wrong spec

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there is only one spec

warm vortex
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Yea

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Bro your literally called ahoymatey

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Play outlaw

elfin sapphire
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outlaw cringe

warm vortex
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True

gusty mirage
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The man’s just chasing dopamine

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It’s his pfp

golden loom
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3600 raiting, put that in the tinder bio

gusty mirage
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Nothing hits as hard as the rare 5 roll and realizing it doesn’t actually mean shit anymore

golden loom
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and round up your height also

warm vortex
warm vortex
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Like TW on an alt

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Or smth

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Tbh outlaw does feel fun when I get the swing of it

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However I keep forgetting to RtB

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Like I roll it at the pull

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Then it leaves my brain

golden loom
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they just need to make blade flurry have its original sound

warm vortex
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And not be fucking target cap[ped

humble verge
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hmmm

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to craft writhing armor bandign wrists

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and also change up and use transmitter

warm vortex
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Why the fuck are you asking us a stupid question

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Jk love you

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Idk if this is eve n aquestion

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I just saw your name

humble verge
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the thing is

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less than 2 weeks until next tier

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do i even bother

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i guess ill have to recraft them into higher ilvl but

warm vortex
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Most likely yea

wild thorn
warm vortex
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Im more happy to see a nelf than a belf

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any day of the week

wild thorn
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dwarfs are ugly asf and humans too

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vulpera is the worst

spice spire
spice spire
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They’re goofy

golden loom
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night elfs are good cause they flip but they are a bit too tall

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I wish voidelves would flip

golden loom
tough oyster
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Hey, i wanted to ask someone.
I’ve been playing rogue quite alot in this season.

This is my first exspansion to play wow, and i’ve played every class.

I’ve liked rogue, pala, sham alot this season, so i wanted to ask anyone with knorledge on how to interpritet the class changes for season two.

How is assasination looking into s2?

golden loom
tough oyster
golden loom
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Nothing about the gameplay changes so that will be the same

tough oyster
# warm vortex Anything but pally

I marined ret pala as my starter class, but im a bit more experienced so i tried every class kinda, and Got alot into rogue so i prob main rogue for s2

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Mained**

warm vortex
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I just hate pallies

tough oyster
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Ret been quite op, i mean its not the highest dps on cds, but the short cds timings is kinda op

humble verge
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yeah if you wanna be facerolling dps

warm vortex
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I'm getting

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so sick of farming Love co

golden loom
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Ret is like the most played spec isnt it?

warm vortex
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I want the rocket

golden loom
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atleast it feels like that in pugs

tough oyster
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I just wanna be rogue, vanish into the shadows 🫣

red schooner
warm vortex
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I'm only doing like

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16 runs a day too

waxen field
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'only'

red schooner
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I do one a day and then I check out

tall atlas
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yeah i saw that eleem ty

warm vortex
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Per day

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Im on 172 runs so far this month

iron carbon
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Why not pally?

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So you can just put ur brain on the side

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And press button when you see lights

waxen field
warm vortex
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50 runs a day

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for a few years every love is in the iar

dapper cradle
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yeah Ret playerbase is huge

humble verge
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the biggest there is

dapper cradle
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best part about it is that a new player can basically perform 95% of how a pro veteran can

humble verge
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aaaaaaa

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95% idk

dapper cradle
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you can giga parse as ret with a beer in one hand and a ciggie in the other

humble verge
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most people dont know how to ST as ret

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even at a high level

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atleast in keys

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imo

dapper cradle
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idk man if you're coming from even a slightly nuanced class

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ret is gg ez

humble verge
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yeye

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but ive seen

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3,3k rets

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doing like 800k on st

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while im sitting on 1m in m+

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so idk

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there is some difference to it

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i guess raid might be easier in terms of ret

royal lantern
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fail 30keys by being dogshit->get carried trought one by good players->score go up->"as a 3,1k player......."

humble verge
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ome

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real

humble verge
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at a certain level

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nobody invites rogues or retpals to pugs

royal lantern
humble verge
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and you gotta find a team on your own

royal lantern
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but you can fail upwards to a pretty impressive score

humble verge
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yea sure

royal lantern
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then you che r.io and see 600keys done in 3months with 30timed

subtle tundra
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there's really only one min-max you can do which is hard to pull off but its not a HUGE deal

warm vortex
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Reminds me
I saw a clip of a dps (3K btw) Missing the hook twice on NW and flaming the tank

humble verge
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i think i saw someone on reddit complaining about that

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missed hook and blamed the tank

wanton spear
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has luxthos said anything about updating his WA package for s2? seems to have hit just about everyone xept rogue

royal lantern
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what is there to update

wanton spear
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has some lua errors randomly

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idk if maybe its just fighting with some other weak aura tho. i was getting really bad memory usage when using it. but its my favorite of the rogue ui setups

trail wind
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My assassination damge is like 60% of what my subtlety damage is so clearly I am doing something wrong. I think I am struggling with how to use thistle tea, should it be applied before or after applying dots?

dapper cradle
trail wind
royal lantern
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thistle tea is never the problem

dapper cradle
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if you're using the one charge of shiv build, you'd shiv last 7 seconds of kingsbane

royal lantern
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like, never at all

dapper cradle
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2x shiv, you'd shiv before kingsbane and then again at around 8 seconds

royal lantern
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100% minmaxed tea VS ignoring tea and auto consume only is a 0,4% difference

trail wind
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I just did a +8 CoT and only netted 750K average DPS, there was 1 or two chain pulls that I lost DPS on but overall I can't tell what I am doing wrong

wanton spear
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where is your CT ?

royal lantern
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why are you not playing crimson tempest

humble verge
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well

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that aint your overal ldamage

royal lantern
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why is kingsbane under a auto attack buff

humble verge
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rofl

royal lantern
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(and chain pulls are good for assa, stop blaming chainpulls, only redditors do that)

spice spire
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Yeah we got a lot to unpack here homie

trail wind
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I swear I was casting CT, clearly not enough but I don't know where it went

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OHH that was the damage loadout for just the last boss, this was the overall. 1.1 million. Still not good

royal lantern
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ok, you literally dont use buttons in aoe then

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castic spatter/crimson tempest should be #1 and #2

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garrote/rupture do 0 dmg, they should be waaaay under those 2

dapper cradle
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speccing into CT and not using it is a giga chad move

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I kneel

royal lantern
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like, your aoe gameplay is

trail wind
spice spire
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No

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2+

dapper cradle
royal lantern
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apply rupture/garrote to 5 targets for energy/scent of blood stacks->apply crimson tempest->cleave with spatter

trail wind
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In AOE I was still spamming envenom to trigger deathstalkers mark and caustic spatter, and only casting CT to keep up the debuff

dapper cradle
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the only time you need to hard force envenom is when your mark turns into Darkest Night after 3 marks are consumed or the mob dies

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then build to 7 and envenom

trail wind
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Should I be using a WA to track caustic spatter?

spice spire
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Most wa have them already in

dapper cradle
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yeah it helps, I'd recommend a good plater profile for it

spice spire
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So if you’re using whispyr’s or LE’s they’re there

dapper cradle
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my caustic dude's name plate turns green when I apply it

spice spire
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That’s sbs for me

dapper cradle
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saggy ballsack?

spice spire
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(Also barely matters lmfao colorblind)

dapper cradle
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(i'm kidding)

spice spire
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Serrated bone spike

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Oh I thought you were serious on asking

trail wind
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Okay, so more crimson tempest, more Shiv+Envenom, less focus on garrote.

royal lantern
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there is a simple thing

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assa does fuck all dmg with garrote/rupture

wanton spear
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are you mutilating during aoe or foking?

royal lantern
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those 2 buttons are more or less just resource generators now

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you only want to apply garrote/ruptre for energy and buffs they give, dmg wise the are really bad and its bad to spend time doing it for a long time, cus you could press buttons that actually do dmg

trail wind
royal lantern
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aka envenom or applying crimson tempest

spice spire
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I think we may need a log if you can ascertain one @trail wind

agile osprey
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Gib sepsis rogue again

royal lantern
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(i love that the spec is reduced to envenom now, 10/10 dot spec desing blizz)

spice spire
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In aoe we like fok a lot

wanton spear
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during aoe fok your ass off, only mutilate to keep caustic

spice spire
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It’s a good builder (more seal fate procs = more cp = more finishers) and spreads our poison well

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On 3+ iirc maybe 2+ with mod

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But 3+ is safe

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And you’ll Mut just to reset caustic

dapper cradle
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yeah i think it's FOK at 3+

spice spire
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Essentially (In aoe)

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Momentum of despair is fucky

trail wind
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Okay okay this is good. Then my single target damage was just embarassing, is there anything more to it than just garrote/rupture upkeep and spamming envenoms?

spice spire
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We all start somewhere

golden loom
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People saying caustic should be number in an 8 are coping

spice spire
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Don’t beat yourself up homie

spice spire
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I’ve hit a 2.4 in an 8 because 0 dps from others

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In general yeah it’s rough

trail wind
golden loom
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garrote does a fuck ton in lower keys so it being top isnt weird

wanton spear
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caustic is also very positional

spice spire
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Because it doesn’t do a ton per cast. So that is like

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Initial spread

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  • then a lot of its value would be like
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Sudden demise yeah

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Not garrote

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If things are GIGA dying

golden loom
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I mean improved garrote does a lot of damage, but if stuff lives past its duration you dont reapply it so ofc it does piss

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but if a mob dies during the duration it has done a lot of the dam

pure moth
wanton spear
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do you guys reapply it a 2nd time before the subt window fades or just get it out on as many targets as possible and continue on with life

trail wind
golden loom
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!carnage

prisma monolithBOT
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Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

  • The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
  • You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

golden loom
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spreading bleeds has smart targeting

trail wind
golden loom
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nah its fine to do, especially as the last line says

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you get your energy and scent stacks which is the important part

dapper cradle
golden loom
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thats a question for quake

wanton spear
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I was more talking about imp garrote up time with reapplying

golden loom
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with reapplying what do you mean

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as in when you vanish

wanton spear
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subterfuge timing when it can still be reapplied as improved dmg

golden loom
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if there are targets that arent bleeding, sure you can just garotte as a builder why not

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but again, if you are in a key where stuff lives, spatter should be the main focus

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then the bleeds are there to fuel the energy for your envenom to go kabooom

grim bronze
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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
lavish geyser
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why are people playing different builds when it comes to different dungeons. im mostly thinking abt swapping between WaT and superchjarger

pure moth
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They are probably just testing things to see what works better for their group. It ultimately doesn't matter though as it's minimally different.

onyx rock
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Any idea when the ptr is back online ?

royal lantern
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500 different "m+ builds"

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that all do the same thing in the end

spice spire
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The secret sauce even

golden loom
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even tho I am rusty af and died like 4 times I just bled this 10 dawnbreaker so hard my game crashed

subtle tundra
#

Looking at your groups dps the standard build would've been great

golden loom
#

yeah, tbh tho I had a blast

#

that was so chill

spice spire
#

Dog I bet those bosses had to rotations or CDs

stark scroll
golden loom
#

just pressing bleeds was chill

#

now I have to figure out why my game crashes tho, have had this a few times this week

velvet nacelle
#

wow just got caught up on the s2 set, things are looking... so good... for us...

#

like even if it weren't bugged on PTR it sounds like whoever designed it has no concept of the class

#

i know they took a "one-size fits all" approach to sets this time

#

but hoo boy

buoyant herald
lofty junco
earnest remnant
#

if you only have you

#

you use it for the last bit of Kingsbane

lofty junco
#

since the m+ build has only 1 charge of shiv, was wondering how the opener changes for m+ bosses

earnest remnant
#

now dont qoute me on it but im fairly sure thats stated in the wowhead guide

gusty lichen
#

Are there any common mistakes people make in between CDs that could explain why my burst damage is often similar to other rogues, but my overall damage is often quite lower? Feels like I’m doing something wrong but idek where to start.

lofty junco
earnest remnant
#

it indeed is

#

it is cropped annoyingly tho

lofty junco
#

well thats aoe, not single target, so i didn't check that

#

and yeah can't read the left part

runic hinge
#

You would have 2 charges in single target

lofty junco
#

the m+ build doesn't ahve 2 charges

runic hinge
#

okay but that's the aoe build

lofty junco
#

yeah but my question was for m+ bosses^^

#

but its all fine stealthi answered my question

#

thanks for that

earnest remnant
#

it does kinda say it here

#

but worded a bit weird

#

so i can understand the confusion

lofty junco
#

yeah i did read that too.

and yeah teh wording was confusing, so i wanted to ask my fellow rogues for a more clear answer^^

earnest remnant
#

all good

lofty junco
#

stealthi to the rescue^^

rotund oak
#

stealthi and rescue on the same sentence

lofty junco
#

just a question, why do we not dump a rupture after the garrote before kingsbane ends?

runic hinge
proven jasper
#

Can rupture after if u need

earnest remnant
#

as long as rupture isnt dropping

#

its fine

dapper cradle
#

yee if you follow the opener, your rupture shouldn't be dropping by that point

#

but if it is about to, you should reapply

rotund oak
#

normally u send KB having ur bleeds secured for its duration anyway

lofty junco
dapper cradle
#

ideally, you're going into raid encounter with x2 SC on prepull

#

so your first rup will last for a while

earnest remnant
#

you running around shivving rodents or what?

#

dedication

lofty junco
#

uhm btw. is the delve build supposed to look exactly like the m+ build?

royal lantern
#

yeha sure

#

kinda the same thing

#

aoe stuff into boss fight

lofty junco
#

no like they ahve the exact same import code

dapper cradle
#

and just don't finish on rup/env

earnest remnant
#

imma keep it 100% with you

proven jasper
lofty junco
#

both buttons copy the exact same code

earnest remnant
#

dont think anybody is really doing that xD

dapper cradle
#

i do it on parse runs haha

rotund oak
#

bruh

dapper cradle
#

obviously it doesn't guarantee a parse, but it smooths out opener a bit

#

yuge for outlaw though

#

big ace resets

lofty junco
#

cause in the planner both m+ and delve build are slightly different. just thought maybe whispyr wana correct that^^

golden loom
#

The real tech is pre slice and dicing on Ulgrax

rotund oak
#

it doesnt rly matter fam,u can run delves with m+ build

proven jasper
#

Bruh u can do delves with full st build

#

theyre easy

#

Not that u should

#

but

rotund oak
#

ive made 20mil gold out of delves alone

#

so ye

proven jasper
#

Ye ye

rotund oak
#

can second this

lofty junco
#

how?

rotund oak
earnest remnant
#

havent done a single delve outside of week 1 of the expansion

golden loom
#

is sapzilla a dirty tinderbox farmer

proven jasper
#

Likely

rotund oak
#

yes i am

proven jasper
rotund oak
#

and every delve material

#

not only boxes

lofty junco
#

does it matter if solo or in grp?

golden loom
#

solo is fine, but also if you have a friend to do it with its kinda fun

lofty junco
#

and i didn't test it out yet, but would using vanish in a bossfight in delve reset the boss?

golden loom
#

vanish is weird in delves yeah

lofty junco
#

so bran doesn't keep the aggro from the boss and the boss resets then?

golden loom
#

like if you have tricks of the traded some threat to brann without that breaking, you can vanish sometimes and sometimes you cant

#

I just did not press it at all but idk what the good play is

lofty junco
#

wait....u can trick bran?

golden loom
#

yeah but sometimes that also resets boss

rotund oak
#

yes and that

golden loom
#

like opening from stealth with tricks on brann sometimes resets boss

rotund oak
#

you can expect to have some difficulty with 591ilvl on +8 delves

#

not all but there are some that can kill

lofty junco
golden loom
#

yeah its good to do

subtle tundra
#

That doesn't mean they are easy

rotund oak
subtle tundra
#

But they are easier than being invited to a decent level key

rotund oak
#

u can also rng a very good trinket(ritual knife)

lofty junco
rotund oak
#

all delves have the same loot table iirc

#

just aim for ritual knife

#

its very very good

broken chasm
#

Why do speed, casual and most high key rogues play without dbl vanish if they have more dmg aoe?

rotund oak
#

......

lofty junco
#

And is there like a difficulty ranking for them?

rotund oak
#

as in which delve we like less?

#

they are about the same,the submerged ones kinda funky coz u wanna breathe from bubbles etc

#

others have huge poison detonations which can oneshot

#

especially in ur fluffy ilvl

lofty junco
subtle tundra
golden loom
#

Personal favorite is dread pit in ringing deeps

#

gotta do some stuff on final boss on low ilvl tho

rotund oak
golden loom
#

like running away or cloaking the aoe

rotund oak
#

pretty sure littlewigs has notificaitons for those as well

lone ingot
#

!nw

prisma monolithBOT
#

The breath/frontal from the first boss in Necrotic Wake is an attack, not a spell.

In order to immune the the breath, you must be in the first second of cloak of shadows (ā€œa moment of magic immunityā€). After the first second of cloak of shadows has elapsed, the attack will hit you and no longer be immuned.
Alternatively you can use evasion to dodge the breath.

wintry pagoda
#

whats the new patch saying to rogues

#

guilds sitting on 0 rogues, contemplating to reroll

spice spire
wintry pagoda
#

man i hope ur joking

#

i cant reroll from warlock to another bottom3 class

balmy condor
#

read pin or I'll read it for you

wintry pagoda
#

ok bestie

#

would that be like an audio book or....

balmy condor
#

I mean is youtube an audio book

wintry pagoda
#

ok imma give ur vid a view once this nlc game is done

balmy condor
#

tldr is no changes no tuning, still waiting

#

many weeks to fix things

balmy condor
#

rogues always kinda been good though

#

like damage wise

#

just isn't right now on ptr

#

but what can you do

pure moth
spice spire
pale ibex
#

hey stupid question, but shouldnt cloak immune me in nw first boss?

prisma monolithBOT
#

The breath/frontal from the first boss in Necrotic Wake is an attack, not a spell.

In order to immune the the breath, you must be in the first second of cloak of shadows (ā€œa moment of magic immunityā€). After the first second of cloak of shadows has elapsed, the attack will hit you and no longer be immuned.
Alternatively you can use evasion to dodge the breath.

pale ibex
#

dafuq

#

thats something

runic hinge
pale ibex
#

was it also in sl?

balmy condor
#

yes

pale ibex
#

insane, cant remember. Thanks guys

slate crown
somber sparrow
balmy condor
#

W ragebait

spice spire
#

Wish you’d ragebait me today, king.

gusty mirage
spice spire
#

Jealousy is a disease, get well soon

spice spire
#

I don’t play that disgusting class

wheat tiger
#

Anyone know what we should aim to achieve for the Egg, 20/10?

#

Or full 30 mastery on the trinket

balmy condor
#

20/10

#

Next best being 10/20

#

The reduced value is kind of killer

#

60% is a big number

wheat tiger
#

Yea ok

#

Thanks. Also how are we looking for S2.

#

Last I played PTR everything was bugged

balmy condor
#

Pins

spice spire
#

Pin Griffey Jr

wheat tiger
#

And I don’t trust any sources but you guys

#

Thanks fam

spice spire
#

Pinjamin Franklin etc

hearty reef
#

New pin?

#

Oh no it's old...

spice spire
#

No

dapper cradle
#

quake is for sure a closeted moonkin player

dapper cradle
#

60% less I mean

balmy condor
#

what

dapper cradle
#

is that how much behind suboptimal egg play is?

balmy condor
#

?????????????

dapper cradle
#

i apologize king

#

tooltips are hard

balmy condor
#

it's kinda the whole gimmick of the trinket kekW

pliant remnant
#

bro just rawdogs trinkets

#

yolo

dapper cradle
#

trinket tooltips are out of control these days

#

100-200 word paragraphs

balmy condor
#

you know, I always wondered why they keep dumbing down classes

dapper cradle
#

if x then y then z but if a then c then b

balmy condor
#

but I get it

#

I see it

onyx scroll
#

reading is for rich people

vapid terrace
#

My small brain uses egg at 30 stack every time šŸ‘€

dapper cradle
#

you need more than this?

balmy condor
#

oh my god

pliant remnant
#

I just macro /use 13 /use 14 into all of my abilities and let Jesus take the wheel

dapper cradle
#

no reason for this insanity

vapid terrace
#

I have it macrod with KB and just let it happen, but I'm 99% sure it's capped at 30.. I'm sorry šŸ˜ž

balmy condor
#

we're macroing egg???????????

#

it just gets worse

vapid terrace
#

ā¤ļø

dapper cradle
#

this is what god intended

balmy condor
#

spider every 6 seconds give stat, stacks

#

use to get REALLY BIG stat and consume stacks

#

this the shit that's too much?

#

wow's doomed

dapper cradle
#

give me uhhhhhhh X stat and uhhhhh Y stat proc chance

pliant remnant
#

how big is the really big stat

#

are we sure it's enough to be worth pressing

#

so many questions

dapper cradle
#

yeah uhhh lemme get a static secondary with a uhhhhh giga mainstat proc

#

next

balmy condor
#

if I ever see you complain about anything in this game being boring somnius I am going to find you and tie your testicles into a knot while you sleep

dapper cradle
topaz horizon
somber sparrow
#

this has a 50 second internal cooldown, and the agility buff lasts for 10 seconds. how much can i trust the sim on these old timewalking trinkets lol

spice surge
#

It does not have an 50 second ICD

#

It has 2 rppm, aka on average it procs twice per minute

humble verge
#

cooking around with the queen ring

#

and a lot of different gear D:

#

i might try transmitter next raid

somber sparrow
#

maybe i was seeing a different version of it

somber sparrow
spice surge
spice surge
nova aspen
#

get me out of nerubar palace

hard pond
#

i could be blind but am i missing the logs post spot i was hoping for someone to take a look

hollow river
arctic tusk
#

how do I see the little dropdown for tc sin channel

#

or thread

#

nvm I got ot it

pallid totem
#

Which spec is looking to perform the best next patch.

balmy condor
#

no one knows

indigo mulch
rotund oak
#

also hi

indigo mulch
#

He is an assassination rogue afterall.

rotund oak
#

plot thickens

lofty junco
#

timewalking dungeons even worth it after u reach like 593-600 ilvl?

hollow river
#

which should be a 610 or hero track item iirc

median citrus
#

For PvP whats assa stat prio? mast > crit?

hollow river
median citrus
obtuse robin
#

dun slice on fuu's sheet not work for anyone else?

balmy condor
#

probably timed out

#

when was the last update

warm vortex
#

Saw this on Reddit, doing this next time I get asked

balmy condor
strange python
#

Whispyr when you visit Germany again can you bring me guava monster

#

I’ll pay big bucks

#

Europe is too small to get it into stores apparently

indigo mulch
#

If it keeps going on like it is in the world i'm pretty sure eu is going to stop most trades with the us šŸ˜„

balmy condor
#

guava MONKA

serene flicker
strange python
#

Guava strawberry

balmy condor
#

don't think I've ever had it

#

these?

strange python
#

Yessss

balmy condor
#

I didn't even know they existed

strange python
#

They came out this year

balmy condor
#

I see

strange python
#

And were very hyped

tawny geyser
balmy condor
#

maybe one day

strange python
strange python
balmy condor
strange python
#

Hahahahahaha he doesn’t know kekw

indigo mulch
balmy condor
#

I stay away from twitter in general

strange python
#

Twitter is so funny when you don’t interact with anyone

#

Especially wow twt

#

It’s crazy takes everywhere

indigo mulch
#

There is to much politcal bs on twitter nowdays :C cba

balmy condor
#

I only used twitter once and that's to call out maxroll for plagerizing their bullshit guides

#

and that's about it

#

and then elon took over and I can't escape the neo nazis

#

so I just gave up

strange python
#

Yeah I started filtering words

#

Now my main page looks good

#

No politics nun

#

Just wow drama OMEGAKEKW

balmy condor
#

these mfers man

bright cipher
#

wait did they do it again?

balmy condor
#

well they didn't not do it

bright cipher
#

i like xerwo, but the guides did look machine made at parts

static glacier
#

pick one monster chugging mechanic vs an AI bot

bright cipher
#

aibot

balmy condor
static glacier
#

gg whispyr lost

bright cipher
#

oh no

indigo mulch
#

I only use maxroll for poe. šŸ˜’

balmy condor
bright cipher
#

😩

warm vortex
warm vortex
balmy condor
#

true

warm vortex
#

If I need something in wow I just look at wowhead tbh

balmy condor
#

yeh they do other games though

warm vortex
#

Fair

balmy condor
#

and the entire foundation of their business model, especially for arpgs

warm vortex
#

But I mainly just play wow and balatro atm

balmy condor
#

is hiring streamers

#

to get the name recognition

warm vortex
#

Good god I can’t want for love is in the air to be over so I don’t have to farm fucking rockets anymore

#

Fair

balmy condor
#

putting out some like, maybe okay stuff

#

and some very shit stuff

#

with no editorial stuff

#

and then calling it a day

warm vortex
#

Acc no I go to thotbot or what ever it’s called for my wow info

balmy condor
#

thotbot HOLY

warm vortex
indigo mulch
#

I mean, they have a lot of content creators there who puts out builds. If you already understand how PoE2 that's all you really need.

warm vortex
#

JK love you

balmy condor
#

regardless of the quality of the content

#

just cause they're content creators doesn't mean they know what the hell they're doing kekW

indigo mulch
#

For people like me and you who prob have 800hrs in PoE2 it dosen't really matter, but for Susan the casual gamer logging in to PoE2 first time i wouldn't recomend it šŸ˜’

warm vortex
#

I mean
I think I should write the assassination guide
I totally know when to shiv

#

Deffo didn’t learn something a few days ago

#

About assassination

#

Anyway poolside is calling cya

balmy condor
#

wtf where's my poolside

indigo mulch
#

Enjoy!

#

I don't even know what poolside is but i'm sure its enjoyable.

warm vortex
warm vortex
#

I’m lifeguarding

#

More enjoyable for the customers than me

balmy condor
warm vortex
#

I know a guy

#

More of a snooker player though

indigo mulch
#

Imagian having a pool in the winter 😦

warm vortex
#

It’s an indoor one at a leasure centre

#

Lifeguarding a beach in winter must be the easiest job ever

#

But during summer?

#

No thank you

balmy condor
bright cipher
#

kekdog simple, never have a winter

warm vortex
bright cipher
balmy condor
#

true

warm vortex
#

Just don’t drive in it

bright cipher
#

the issue is getting out, but god its good

balmy condor
#

the only thing I drive is women crazy

warm vortex
#

My mum said I could never drive a car made out of spaghetti

#

You should have seen her face when I drove pasta

clear jewel
#

For caustic in m+, is my position or the position of the mob more important to maximize damage?

indigo mulch
balmy condor
#

but the range of caustic is insane

clear jewel
#

Ok, thanks!

balmy condor
#

should rarely ever matter

subtle tundra
#

no protection

balmy condor
subtle tundra
#

RAW

bronze pike
balmy condor
bronze pike
balmy condor
#

yeah

#

I just said

#

dont mind if I do

#

do you read

bronze pike
#

No

#

Reading is for soyjaks

balmy condor
#

mfers refuse to read tooltips but then complain game is simple

bronze pike
#

I don’t read tooltips

#

The info is directly downloaded to my brain

rotund oak
#

average wow gamer

west smelt
#

Does blackjack work on bosses or only mobs which are not immune to the cc part of blind

rotund oak
balmy condor
#

You have to hit the cc

rotund oak
#

the debuff is what comes after cc

rotund oak
#

and hi

west smelt
#

thats what I figured from reading the talent but just wanted to be sure

rotund oak
balmy condor
royal lantern
#

you probably deserved it

spice spire
balmy condor
spice spire
#

?

brittle quail
#

i mean for poe 1 maxroll did a good job hiring steamer that made build at least the content was okay

lofty junco
lavish geyser
#

Does atrophic poison put a dr, on casts as well? or is it just melee dmg? like will it reduce the pulsing dmg on last boss of gb?

gusty mirage
#

as long as the pulsing damage comes from the actual boss and not "environment" yes

#

they've done a good job of cleaning that up so atrophic is useful in all situations

lavish geyser
#

great

#

Im mostly thinking of gb, CoT and dawn

#

those type of casts

golden loom
lavish geyser
#

would that just be the option always, going that poison? feel like most ppl can interrupt in time

golden loom
#

numbing isnt really for the cast speed reduction

#

its more for the attackspeed slow to reduce white hits on tank

lavish geyser
#

what is it for? i have never read em, it slows down casting speed i see

#

tank busters?

golden loom
#

you can think of it as
Numbing = less damage the tank takes on packs
atrophic = less group damage

lavish geyser
#

wouldnt atrophic not just be much better then?

#

okay šŸ™‚

golden loom
#

think they are close enough to be fine either way probably

#

I just run atrophic personally

lavish geyser
#

yeah, the vaule on bosses sounds nice though, have been using it for CoT

golden loom
#

in really high key pushing theres probably some reason to take 1 over the other idk

lavish geyser
#

is it aa's that trigger it?

golden loom
#

Poisons?

#

fan also procs them

spice surge
#

Everything you do can trigger them

dawn seal
#

yes

spice surge
#

And yes for pushing you should generally use atrophic

subtle tundra
#

dont underestimate the value of longer casts

#

šŸ™‚

spice surge
#

Ye in a dungeon like GB its really good.

royal lantern
harsh bronze
#

In a Mythic+ dungeon, my group is fighting one group, and then the tank grabs the next group while we're still fighting the last bit of the previous group, as they should. how can I apply my bleeds to all of them like at the beginning of an encounter? Do you usually just manually apply them to each individual enemy?

pliant remnant
#

Generally you wanna just focus on keeping up Scent of Blood stacks and Garrote on your main target AFAIK

harsh bronze
#

Ok. I was just wanting to make it go faster by damaging all of them at once

lofty junco
#

delves feel just like m+ now....getting declined for a +8 with nearly 600 ilvl

timid bramble
#

Are we excited for season 2 babes

golden loom
#

ye

#

gonna be gaming hard

lofty junco
#

hmm with nearly 600 ilvl, the raidfinder is pretty pointless right?

timid bramble
#

At ilvl 600 you can do higher content

#

Straight to gilded crest

royal lantern
#

becase fuck that release date

#

i wanna play mh wilds

timid bramble
#

You can play both

#

Be a real gamer nooblet with two tits

glad osprey
lofty junco
#

ah that thing for crafting

spice spire
#

Do your prog and a few keys

#

And enjoy SoCute

subtle tundra
#

I did the benchmark for wilds, I got a whole 37 average fps

spice surge
subtle tundra
mossy ingot
astral plover
#

Cant wait for the throwing knife build to be viable

runic hinge
drifting cloud
royal lantern
#

lies of p got a dlc trailer btw

#

why did nobody tell me

subtle tundra
drifting cloud
#

swap the setting above it

royal lantern
#

turn settings to medium and realise that it looks almost the same as high but with +20fps lol

subtle tundra
#

buddy do you think i have 37 fps and complain while on high settings

#

its on lowest

royal lantern
subtle tundra
#

i play every game on lowest settings

royal lantern
#

based tbh

subtle tundra
#

even on tarkov where it actually was a disadvantage

#

cause being able to see is so important

drifting cloud
#

@subtle tundra you have to swap the setting above frame gen away from nvidia stuff since it requires you to have like a 4k series

#

and then it should work? or is your gpu from 2015

#

it should give you like 20 fps maybe?

marsh grail
#

@vestal wren sowwy for the ping sir. I am using your transmitter weakaura and I wan't to only see the instructions and I am having a hard time figuring out how to do that :/

#

Could you perhaps assist kekman

subtle tundra
#

no i wont be able to play monster hunter

vestal wren
#

its above 24 fps, so fine

subtle tundra
#

its below 30 in any place with enemies

#

the cinematics are hard carrying the average

drifting cloud
subtle tundra
#

it is turned on, it asked me when i opened the game

#

benchmark

lofty junco
golden loom
royal lantern
#

the actual gameplay will be smother

#

cus MH is mostly just 1 Monster, not 10+multiple npcs everywhere

#

everyone that tested the beta says the same, the town with npcs kills the fps, and the fights are the best part in performance kekdog