Okay, something like CD's not lining up properly
#assassination
indigo mulch
indigo mulch
All good then i guess
balmy condor
Did they not line up on nymue?
indigo mulch
So no fuckery like smolderon going on?
indigo mulch
balmy condor
That’s bad for us, we’re a burst spec
indigo mulch
I mean just from personal opinion (no whats good or bad in term of dps) i just prefer when we can actually line up our cds properly without having to miss phases because the boss goes afk in a corner or having to do some fuckery to line up our cds every 90s.
balmy condor
That’s fair I guess, they kinda always line up for us cause raids are designed for 2min cds
Usually sub the one breaking things in half
indigo mulch
spice surge
Usually sub the one breaking things in half
Hey! Thats....ye i guess thats kinda true
balmy condor
Like assa was great on smolderon
It’s just that sub was like 15% ahead of every spec in the game
So yeah playing assa was “trolling”
Cause instead of an anime god
You were just a really good normal spec
spice surge
Nah BM was somewhere around there at the end of the fight
Sub just looked insane on prog on it since you often wiped early
And you would be the only spec that had cds on pull and on intermission
indigo mulch
balmy condor
It is a very natural wow player response though to see bar and go “everything under this bar is bad”
earnest remnant
Nah BM was somewhere around there at the end of the fight
only one that was sneaking up on me was our Udk
iirc
on farm tho
BM got close
balmy condor
Be that details or wcl ranking or even fucking play rate graphs on raider.io and weird ass stat charts on some aggregate page
Hell, the fucking doom because I said we sim 2.2 mil in s2 when the spec, the talents, the hero talents, tier, trinkets, and special items haven’t been tuned
It’s insane
indigo mulch
But look at the sims! X class is doing 3mil so assa must be shit. Doomed spec.
balmy condor
True
indigo mulch
Clearly.
balmy condor
Assa tier is 4.7% and sub tier is like a billion %
indigo mulch
Shurley nothing will change right?
balmy condor
assa bad and will be all season and I can’t even think about playing it in 3 weeks when the actual content opens
indigo mulch
I mean the 0.2% 4pc will shurley not be changed.
spice surge
Assa tier is 4.7% and sub tier is like a billion %
Ye if it works 💀
balmy condor
That’s what I’m saying
indigo mulch
balmy condor
Ye if it works 💀
That’s the nerf for the sub tier
indigo mulch
Making it work? lol
balmy condor
It’s 300% damage 1/100th of the time when it works
Therefore 3% tier
Balance restored
indigo mulch
They still have plenty of time.
If assa still plays the same as release then its all goochie
spice spire
balmy condor
They still have plenty of time.
“But the patch is a release candidate” I say, a complete dumbass
balmy condor
how much worse is ovi egg with sub optimal stacks compared to sacbrood
Depends how suboptimal is suboptimal
Do you have the adhd jitters and can’t stop fidgeting and moving for even half a second? Really fucking bad
indigo mulch
I mean, how many times do they not nerf/buff shit the first 2~3 weeks into a raid. Specially underpreforming sets. Its happend a milion times already
wild thorn
yes i play rogue
balmy condor
Do you have to like step out for a mechanic for 2.5 seconds? Not important
drifting cedar
Is the Lil rotational change for next patch doable right now?
balmy condor
Yes
drifting cedar
That's cool
balmy condor
Yeh I guess
drifting cedar
Ez 0.5 % gain
soft surge
what rotational change
golden loom
what rotational change
pinned
soft surge
royal lantern
"change"
some mfs make big talks about OMG DRY SHIV
when its 0,5% for using it outside of big cds once lol
static glacier
some mfs make big talks about OMG DRY SHIV
when its 0,5% for using it outside o...
alright mister wet shiv
subtle tundra
yes!
soft surge
bake shiv into thistle tea already
subtle tundra
bake these 🥜
royal lantern
bake shiv into thistle tea already
you cant bake tea silly
nova aspen
yea i only figured it happening once
royal lantern
yea i only figured it happening once
nah, ita basically just
after you did a full cd kingsbane, send the next shiv on cd
cus dn envenom does dmg
and a KB with no other cds doesnt really do dmg
i love 99% of the spec being Envenom btw
nova aspen
its still far more complex than say enhance
they just press 2 buttons and stare at sunder procs
i was watching my raid lead play last night they got ansurek to .7% (he raids weekday team and raid leads weekend team where i raid) crazy that ascendance is just spam windstrike and sunder procs and he hit like 8m at one point
gusty mirage
i was watching my raid lead play last night they got ansurek to .7% (he raids we...
he's just the better player
picks specs better than other people
ya know
nova aspen
rogue is definitely the hardest class i've played so far
but i've only ever played hunter mage rogue shadow in difficult content
gaunt ledge
@balmy condor great vid! Just watched
languid frigate
How does 3.2mil in dungeon slice compare to other classes at the moment? Pins mention we are below average on single target but does not say on dungeons.
elder torrent
is it better to use Transmitter on Deathmark or the Skarydns grace thing?
wanton ridge
is the assasin set fix being implemented today on ptr?
dawn seal
is it better to use Transmitter on Deathmark or the Skarydns grace thing?
I think u sim it
dire blade
am i able to go daggers with this gear?
or am i stuck swords without the shadowcraft
scarlet barn
😱
lean plover
Frost resistance too low
scarlet barn
I’m not entirely sure they help with classic sims in this channel but idk
lean plover
Theres a #classic-discussion server for those kind of questions
This is more retail oriented
scarlet barn
He also posted there 
scarlet barn
Honestly post it in every channel fuck it
scarlet barn
B& speedrun
oak sparrow
!pooling
prisma monolithBOT
- Energy just is low on the spec there's nothing to do about it
- Super Min-Max stuff includes avoiding the auto proc of tea (less than +0.2%, tea/shiv macro is optimal)
- Refreshing Envenom in pandemic instead of spamming it (mostly relevant for m+ without TTK, can be up to 0.5%)
- Otherwise nothing matters. Pooling before kingsbanes isn't important because of tea lining up and deathmark giving a huge surge of energy
spice spire
Fair enough! But yeah retail oriented
spice surge
Read the tooltip of Thistle Tea
lofty junco
Read the tooltip of Thistle Tea
oh. never knew that was there
gusty mirage
So thats probably why
love you king
spice surge
spice surge
love you king
Truly an enjoyable experience trying to write a guide on how the new tier set impact the spec without the tier set actually working
Blizzard 
golden loom
am i able to go daggers with this gear?
if you get perds blade and core leather gloves go daggers, shadowcraft is better for swords anyways so dont worry about that
lofty junco
whats the easiest bountiful delve? since i feel like nightfall sanctum tier 7 was already pretty hard
with 586 ilvl
grim tree
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
dire blade
so the play is to hold out as swords will i get the gloves ?
lofty junco
if i can clear tier 8, i can open that bountiful chests without a second thought?
dire blade
till*
golden loom
so the play is to hold out as swords will i get the gloves ?
lets go to #classic-discussion 😛
half tartan
Anyone else gonna alt a hunter? BM is looking kinda juicy
static glacier
already have an alt hunter, it's sv
static glacier
my rl 😦
clever sapphire
gusty mirage
one of our best dps is survival
static glacier
its v strong atm
royal lantern
shot out to Lorá, man is a beast
wild thorn
!simguide
prisma monolithBOT
Guide to Simming yourself: https://www.wowhead.com/how-to-use-raidbots-sims-stat-weights
For more accurate results you should always sim yourself using Top Gear for gear you already have in your bags
or Droptimizer to see which content drops the biggest upgrade for you. Do not use Stat Weights sims to evaluate gear.
shy axle
@lofty junco i did it with around 590 as sub with perma tricks, was fine-ish
spice surge
gusty mirage
bro?
spice spire
Yeah what’s good dog
spice spire
?
spice spire
God I’ve gone too unhinged here
normal mist
... That makes you special tho
spice spire
normal mist
Hey that's a good thing
lavish geyser
been some time since I played a 12, how does assa deal with lower keys, they just dont get to do much dmg?
acoustic sky
spice spire
been some time since I played a 12, how does assa deal with lower keys, they jus...
Sudden Demise gamers
lavish geyser
at least on 11s I dont think I can get a single deathmark off
like will never pop at the end
and that was with 2 dps
marble hemlock
you good bro?
spice spire
you good bro?
Yeah dog what’s good
slate crown
Yeah dog what’s good
Seli is clearly a cat sir
golden loom
meow
spice spire
marble hemlock
told you before but if you have to quote, youre kinda doing it wrong sir
ember mural
spice spire
Oh god Ronkles is going to get me 
stuck knoll
I forgot how to spell Brittiny so you get away with it this time
radiant raven
this image terrifies me.
spice spire
Terrifies how
radiant raven
in a primordial way
man was not meant to fit such volume of foot within their maw.
worldly sail
Terrifies how
because it could be him in the picture next time 
subtle tundra
bro i want a foot in my fucking mouth so bad
tomorrow is valentines day all im getting is probably a toothbrush
stuck knoll
📸
spice spire
tomorrow is valentines day all im getting is probably a toothbrush
Yeah you are (someone’s toes)
No but fr can someone do an ms paint job on Varas’s response to a reaction type gif
I feel like that could be a banger
cerulean walrus
Yeah you are (someone’s toes)
slate crown
bro i want a foot in my fucking mouth so bad
Toeslurper Varas
royal lantern
Toeslurper needs to be the Mythic Title for the Xal fight
Mythic Raid numbers quadruple
radiant raven
They need to bring back the per-dungeon titles again 'cos there wwere some amazing ones
buoyant herald
tomorrow is valentines day all im getting is probably a toothbrush
Better chance of getting that foot if you’ve got fresh breath my bro
desert crest
Has anyone tested the blind changes does it feel different or is it still more or less insta canceled?
sharp viper
Better chance of getting that foot if you’ve got fresh breath my bro
but once he gets the foot he will have foot-breath
it's a vicious cycle, man
warm vortex
I love how I wanna farm black war mammoth because I can glitch through the wall into the raid
Just feels like that blizzard quality assurance
wild thorn
is ovi egg optimal 20 main stat and 10 secondary
spice surge
Yes, but it doesnt really matter much
As long as youre below 20 on either its all fine
gusty mirage
ok this channel is beyond salvation
how bold of you to assume it was ever capable of salvation
lofty junco
how do u improve ilvl of the isle ring?
gusty mirage
iirc there's a weekly quest associated with it
spice surge
Ye the "purple main quest markers" on the island should give you ilvl increases for the ring
bright cipher
how bold of you to assume it was ever capable of salvation
for a second as i opened, i was like 'did i click at the dh discord"
bright cipher
then i realized no, because they did purge the nsfw channel
gusty mirage
dude retired from being a green name to become an absolute degenerate
gusty mirage
Ban his ass
your punishment is being stuck here for the rest of your life
bright cipher
isn't orange a rank above green around here?
bright cipher
i am sorry for you
spice spire
Yeah I’m his punishment
gusty mirage
spice spire
We’re literally punishing each other uwu
gusty mirage
guys sorry for my impulses
no you're not
midnight mist
its okay vara
gusty mirage
hello zac
gusty mirage
comment vas-tu?
subtle tundra
why is my name getting shorter
midnight mist
mb varass
spice spire
speaking non english
Mf doesn’t even know the word delay and is policing language
Ain’t no fucking way
gusty mirage
Mf doesn’t even know the word delay and is policing language
zac's one and only filter
notorious
spice spire
Surely that’s not his only
gusty mirage
I'll check
gusty mirage
Surely that’s not his only
prisma monolithBOT
Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage
Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/
spice spire
Damn
proven jasper
Zamnn
proven jasper
Lots of naughty boys
spice spire
One of mine was a bit
gusty mirage
either by asking for it, or through the old mute roulette
supple spindle
imagine getting muted on assa channel lmao
spice spire
One was an emote
royal lantern
either by asking for it, or through the old mute roulette
oh yeha, i forgot that one
supple spindle
what do you need to say so bad that you get muted
spice spire
imagine getting muted on assa channel lmao
I’m in OT as well
royal lantern
so many timeouts from the mute roulette
golden loom
just dont say bad words 
slate crown
I put an Everyone ping in a code block once as a bit. It didn't ping, but Moroes still got my ass for it
winged quail
getting muted is weaksauce, inciting someone to slowmode a channel is where it's at
royal lantern
getting muted is weaksauce, inciting someone to slowmode a channel is where it's...
slowmode channel is just on patch day wdym
supple spindle
getting muted is weaksauce, inciting someone to slowmode a channel is where it's...
you mean like starting a drama or what?
spice spire
No changes?!
winged quail
patch day shenanigans
supple spindle
whyspir won't kiss me :c
midnight mist
im almost certain its all false positives tbf
gusty mirage
I put an Everyone ping in a code block once as a bit. It didn't ping, but Moroes...
moroes once banned shiennar
or I suppose
"banana'd"
midnight mist
Mf doesn’t even know the word delay and is policing language
tbf my usage was correct, not my fault
spice spire
tbf my usage was correct, not my fault
Yeah it was
You legit just didn’t know the word for it. The second I saw it Ik exactly what you were going for
midnight mist
no but i mean its also an english word
gusty mirage
im almost certain its all false positives tbf
1 was when we added a word to the filter and never told anyone about it
midnight mist
oh ye right
supple spindle
roman languages < germanic languages
midnight mist
supple spindle
sorry that's the truth
midnight mist
1 was when we added a word to the filter and never told anyone about it
tbf this one i still dont get
its such a normal word
slate crown
tbf my usage was correct, not my fault
Sounds like something a criminal woulds ay
spice spire
roman languages < germanic languages
Saying Roman instead of romantic here 
midnight mist
to me
subtle tundra
roman languages < germanic languages
fuck you
spice spire
Also romantic languages make way more sense imo
gusty mirage
through movies and music prolly
midnight mist
any english movie i will watch
gusty mirage
like most people
midnight mist
they just spam that word
gusty mirage
ye
spice spire
And I primarily speak a Germanic language
midnight mist
how can i know its bad
supple spindle
Also romantic languages make way more sense imo
i agree to disagree, germanic languages seem more streamlined both in lexical and in grammatical way big imo
midnight mist
I'll DM you
blocking you
gusty mirage
midnight mist
aint no mf gonna dm me
supple spindle
but i don't think my opinion matters much, since i touched only french really slightly
midnight mist
?
gusty mirage
?
Listen. Outlaw really need a full rework. I get it; you’re busy. Doin what? Who know. Ill tell you this much. Go and ready the official outlaw discord. We want devs to listen. We want to be heard. So far, from what i’ve seen and heard, we haven’t been. I challenge any member of the rogue dev team, if you are real; to give any feedback at all , whatsoever. Show up to raven and what you have to say we will listen. Hope you’d do the same. Rogues have been sile t and we need answers for your crimes against us. Show us. Prove to us.
royal lantern
but i don't think my opinion matters much, since i touched only french really sl...
allready too much
golden loom
I love the 2 national languages being so fkin different, and I have the 6% of the population one as my mothertounge wooohooo I cannot understand 94% of my fellow finnish people 
royal lantern
Listen. Outlaw really need a full rework. I get it; you’re busy. Doin what? Who ...
Listen. Outlaw really need a full rework. I get it; you’re busy. Doin what? Who know. Ill tell you this much. Go and ready the official outlaw discord. We want devs to listen. We want to be heard. So far, from what i’ve seen and heard, we haven’t been. I challenge any member of the rogue dev team, if you are real; to give any feedback at all , whatsoever. Show up to raven and what you have to say we will listen. Hope you’d do the same. Rogues have been sile t and we need answers for your crimes against us. Show us. Prove to us.
spice spire
but i don't think my opinion matters much, since i touched only french really sl...
I’ve also only spoke English on the Germanic side so my opinion is costs solely from that
But learning Latin/spanish
Their language made way more sense
Than English
royal lantern
English is a abomination
supple spindle
But learning Latin/spanish
ye, latin/spanish are cool
royal lantern
nothing makes sense
spice spire
French more or less the same
supple spindle
English is a abomination
yeah no english is the easiest of them all
royal lantern
yeah no english is the easiest of them all
its kinda easy, but its still a abomination of a language
supple spindle
its kinda easy, but its still a abomination of a language
french fault
royal lantern
like, all the "xdddd "insert language" has so many weird rules" stuff
yeha?? cus thats normal language rules and english doesnt have them lol
supple spindle
like, all the "xdddd "insert language" has so many weird rules" stuff
yeha?? cu...
well, yes and no
calm ravine
would be nice to get such condition in real fight
dapper cradle
!log @dapper cradle
prisma monolithBOT
Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage
Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/
royal lantern
would be nice to get such condition in real fight
you sometimes do
but its a wipe then
cus a tank forgot to taunt or smth like that
runic hinge
!log <@533772072845836302>
Ping quake
dapper cradle
nah he might eat my ass out from the back
dapper cradle
yeah was that not clear?
spice spire
humble verge
with subt too ig
proven jasper
subs dance uptime is like 50-60% maybe?
proven jasper
My guess is law
golden loom
random check on a zac log on Sikran, 3 min fight and 12 vanishes cast
humble verge
jesus
golden loom
so 144 seconds out of 180 spent with stealth effects
proven jasper
Yeah thought so
dapper cradle
i mean, that's the way the spec is built so I guess it makes sense
golden loom
so 144 seconds out of 180 spent with stealth effects <:kekw:1217165081251414168>
wait im dumb, subterfuge is 6 seconds not 12
my mind is warped from sin
gusty mirage
Damn, finally killed Court
spice spire
I know "ThIs LaTe In TiEr"
Don’t let anyone take your happiness from you
Grats homie
uneven plume
Ptr down rn?
iron carbon
royal lantern
I know "ThIs LaTe In TiEr"
who cares about that
kill is a kill
talking achievments down is a loser move
gusty mirage
kill is a kill
most people don't even go into heroic
let alone kill mythic bosses
red schooner
I've randomly destealthed on pull 3 times tonight on queen, so idk what the fucks going on with this
iron carbon
I've been playing rogue for 7 years now. I started to check this discord recently, I never improved so hard
balmy condor
I've randomly destealthed on pull 3 times tonight on queen, so idk what the fuck...
the first tick of aoe dam
red schooner
the first tick of aoe dam
damn. weirdly its not happened on any other night
just tonight, constantly
balmy condor
are you standing like 3 zipcodes away from the boss now and waiting for it to come into melee instead of standing on the boss and walking into melee with the boss
that's usually what destealths people
balmy condor
strange
red schooner
last 4 queen nights not had the issue though so i'm doing something fucked tonight
balmy condor
sims highest then I guess its good for you
tall atlas
yeah i dont have any comparative pieces on me rn to sim and i cba adding items n stoof
looking like this rn
final star
This my gear
balmy condor
640 ilvl, looks good to me
could you shuffle some stats around? yeah probably
but like
does it matter really?
so what if you're losing like 0.4%
runic hinge
This my gear <:CAUGHT:1250659892465762345>
strange python
No.
royal lantern
need 10.9% more crit
strange python
That 16.28% haste should actually be 16.09% but okay bro, nice „BIS“ flex, maybe next time 
sharp relic
how bad is the m+ build for raid single target bosses?
marble hemlock
no 34% crit = trash
royal lantern
how bad is the m+ build for raid single target bosses?
bad bad
dapper cradle
how bad is the m+ build for raid single target bosses?
Pretty bad bro
royal lantern
look at assa ST dmg in dungeons lol
dapper cradle
You have giga dead talents for st in that build
pulsar elk
Whats the best way to use double vanish?
runic hinge
If something needs to be silenced. If the tank chained badly. If the group did something stupid and you wanna dip
lament timber
If something needs to be silenced. If the tank chained badly. If the group did s...
last one is the most important
pulsar elk
Oh okay, wasnt sure if it was a save for every DM or DM+KB
runic hinge
Generally you wanna send one with cds. Yes. I figured you meant what are you doing with the extra
tough needle
Really weird, it says that I'm needing haste in my sims. But I thought that we take all mastery gems, and as much mastery as possible
balmy condor
we don't do that
buoyant herald
We do what our robot overlord tells us to
tough needle
Okay, so simc is always right lol
dapper cradle
whispyr knows the exact stat breakdown you need as sin
tough needle
I used the top gear feature
dapper cradle
but he doesn't want to share it
final star
you can use the feature incorrectly
spice spire
balmy condor
simc is always right, with the asterisk that you understand what its telling you
the same way whoever told you to max stack mastery is braindead, blindly following a sim with 0 understanding is equally braindead
it's a tool like anything else
pulsar elk
yeah mb havent played in awhile, would I send that extra vanish for every kb or just the combo?
balmy condor
you would only vanish during dm, kingsbane without deathmark is just a dogshit envenom that takes 14 seconds
tough needle
Im pretty braindead tbh, I need to be told exactly what to do to execute it
balmy condor
the other charge is just for aoe/restealthing
royal lantern
Im pretty braindead tbh, I need to be told exactly what to do to execute it
hello pretty braindead tbh
tough needle
😂
pulsar elk
in a big pack and its taking long to kill, whats the best way to apply rupture?
royal lantern
by pressing rupture on beefy targets that will not die in the next 8seconds?
sacred schooner
from stealth
idle radish
sup sin rogues feeling pretty poison today?
ill take one assa burger, hold the poison please
dapper cradle
assa has some of the hottest lore toons fr fr
valeera goonguinar and garona (goonrona) halforcen
royal lantern
spice spire
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/124169701881282560/1339637073660870756/im...
Somnius could never
dapper cradle
yeah I'll have to keep looking for a new job
proven jasper
Bro’s gooned out
desert crest
What da fak is happening in this log?https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/z3y64M2wRbZaC1Xp?fight=630&type=damage-done
negative dmg is wild
balmy condor
cringe people modifying the gcd in logs
proven jasper
desert crest
seems kinda wild that it is not detected tho
lethal onyx
wow sincord been a while since i stepped my foot in here
balmy condor
it is detected
lethal onyx
hows everybody doing
desert crest
ahh found it through loorgs where it is rank 1
balmy condor
yeah, lorrgs doesn't have any of that
wcl gets the upload, sees it's bugged, and then gets rid of it
desert crest
Yeah makes sense
balmy condor
lorrgs (and every other dogshit aggregation page)
simply scrubs the shit
and then plops the whole thing on your plate
desert crest
Yeah they could quite easily check if the reports are blacklisted before incuding them
desert crest
No but they could check it again
balmy condor
oh sure
but that requires more than minimum effort
and that's not making any of these pages money
lyric hill
what can i cut for iron wire?
runic hinge
Sanguine
spice spire
Sanguine blades
spice surge
Demise, master assassin or sanguine blades
plush iris
i assume for for 11.1 you just use house of cards with ur deathmark
runic hinge
proven jasper
Love you tony
runic hinge
Love you tony
broken chasm
These are my logs from 25 ovinax wipes and as you can see, I get a lot of hp from leech because I had one item that gave it to me, if I replace it with another one without leech, will I lose all healing?
spice surge
These are my logs from 25 ovinax wipes and as you can see, I get a lot of hp fro...
You have 6% passive leech from leeching poison already, so that one item with leech is likely only giving you like 0.6% more leech, so thats maybe 10% of that leech healing lost (at most)
broken chasm
thanks, I'm satisfied with the answer
timid bramble
storm forum
sap should not put you in combat
proven jasper
if you get into combat after sapping i think it keeps you in combat
tawdry halo
^true, if the sapped mob is close enough to get social aggro
but if you sap something in narnia and then get into combat with something not in narnia you won't have aggro and you'll be fine
runic hinge
sap should not put you in combat
What are we playing next tier
storm forum
im probably playing disc priest
balmy condor
lanille on the egirl pi princess arc
storm forum
i force our OL rogue to play assa, give them PI, and pretend im a puppetteer
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UwU
dapper cradle
thanks, I'm satisfied with the answer
An unbelievably based thing to reply with
I’ll be using this
storm forum
Need help with disc?
balmy condor
Need help with disc?
yeah actually could you herniate one of mine
runic hinge
He wants it BULGING
storm forum
I am not allowed to help woth those kinds of discs anymore
spice spire
Need help with disc?
Yeah I’m absolutely dog
tranquil bough
Hey do we still have no insight on s2 ? Tier set still bugged?
shy nest
check pins
spice spire
What do you need help with?
Dungeons mainly.
Likely it’s just need to read a guide a few times and practice a bit. But a lot feels… unintuitive, granted last time I healed was dragon soul on resto shaman. So like I’ve never done m+ healing.
Just would like flexibility on the toon because I’m dogshit at shadow
And often we need healers. Likely going to climb into ur dms
But I don’t want to wear the disc cat
slate crown
nevermind
balmy condor
W comms lisonna
storm forum
Disc in dungeons is just press damage buttons and rad/pws when damage comes out.
You can take renew off ur bars unless ur running gale of shadows trinket
How to use rad/pws/fh and externals is really just ur judgement of what kind of damage is coming out. Just make sure you use them early.
That takes getting used to
humble verge
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cSdJPy5FyyoSK6fRzgYkzb
you running all different gems?
for more on the diamond
balmy condor
queen ring isn't an upgrade for me
uneven plume
never realized how bad sin is on queen
humble verge
wdym its fine
also maybe i should actually craft writhing armor banding
ive yet to do it
tall atlas
does the APL on raidbots always have the player hp at 100%?
balmy condor
yes
bleak ledge
@balmy condor weakaura request for your pack: a tactical nuke launch wa sound that goes off with every envenom in the lingering darkness window 
spice surge
does the APL on raidbots always have the player hp at 100%?
Yes but if youre asking for the embellishments theres a setting you can change to adjust its uptime
Its 80% at default i believe
polar timber
is that lingering darkness env thing worth doing on live btw?
balmy condor
it's like 0.1%
balmy condor
<@167090536602140682> weakaura request for your pack: a tactical nuke launch wa ...
you can add that to yours, but I don't play with audio so I'm not gonna put audio :P
balmy condor
just music and stream roasting my ass
sinful thicket
need advice/help on just staying alive in mythic 8's or more
balmy condor
ilvl, dodge, feint
sinful thicket
ilvl is 623 I hit feint. but idk.. maybe just not fimilar with some mechs. just did a stonevault and felt bad.. cleared with time but died like 4 times
it was an 8
balmy condor
sounds like you're standing in stuff then
8's shouldn't really require feint for anything
sinful thicket
I was dying more on ad pulls more than anything didn't die on any boss fights
balmy condor
missed kicks?
sinful thicket
mm probs. Not good at swapping kicks from target to target yet. usually just kinda stay on one and let others take of other interrups to maybe I'm fumblin on that
whats the way to like like a prio target then switch back to it? shift tab?
sinful thicket
alright. I'll try and work on that ty for advice. Appreciate you as always
balmy condor
half tartan
!guide
prisma monolithBOT
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dawn heath
Rogue devs forgot about the class entirely
dawn heath
My baby havoc got buffed though so ill be returning to that most likely
dawn heath
Crazyyy
I only enjoy Assa as Rogue so Rogue is a risky choice
I refuse to play sub and outlaw is target capped so idk
buoyant herald
but 6% aura buff
buoyant herald
6% aura buff is like adding 0.5 targets to the cap
buoyant herald
Is this from 2022?
dawn seal
Oh no 8 hours ago
Quite fresh lmao I just sent it cuz
It looked funny
With poisoned knife
balmy condor
Most accurate dalaran gaming thumbnail
balmy condor
It’s also Valentine’s Day happy Valentine’s Day pookie
subtle tundra
THANKS I WILL OFF MYSELF
where are you going with your gf?
youre romantic i know you
balmy condor
No where cause she’s out of town for work
lusty narwhal
balmy condor
Im jorking my shit silly style
subtle tundra
No where cause she’s out of town for work
................ :((( sad ass day
golden loom
Anyone else gonna be enjoying valentines day in the online universe of Azeroth?
subtle tundra
Im jorking my shit silly style
im jaking it
subtle tundra
need to warm up
balmy condor
Kk
pastel cradle
sup guys,
Is there a playstyle change in +14 mythics? Like would I be doing anything different from +13?
balmy condor
10 min of Jerkmates aimlabs
balmy condor
sup guys,
Is there a playstyle change in +14 mythics? Like would I be doing anyt...
Nope, that’s the beauty of m+
It’s the same shit but you get one shot sometimes
pastel cradle
got it, so i take more dmg and its a little harder to kill i suppose.
sharp viper
Poisoned knife on thumbnaill
sharp viper
Balast? Sandbagging is whispers job
balmy condor
I don’t live in Florida we don’t have sandbags
sharp viper
I don’t live in Florida we don’t have sandbags
Skill issue tbh
prisma monolithBOT
Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs
pseudo nimbus
Hi, I am a bit confused about maintaining the Envenom debuff. Do I try to maintain two stacks? Or is maintaing 1 enough?
whole steeple
!plater
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subtle tundra
@balmy condor
runic hinge
por que no los dos
balmy condor
Hi, I am a bit confused about maintaining the Envenom debuff. Do I try to mainta...
you can try to maintain 2
gentle flower
runic hinge
Wow is 2eZ
pseudo nimbus
one more question, in my kingsbane window it happens quite often that I reach 5+ (7cps) at the time shiv drops, do I shiv with full cps or hit envenom and shiv after that?
balmy condor
you would shiv
in general the only buttons you care about the combo points on are your actual generators
mut/fok
snow hamlet
!fuu
prisma monolithBOT
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strange sleet
I just logged into the ptr and stuff. Is there a weapon vendor or no?
balmy condor
no special weapon, so no weapon on the vendor
ptr vendors only ever have cantrips, trinkets, and tier
subtle tundra
yes
balmy condor
close enough
strange sleet
I'm trying in the dummys and it seems fine
subtle tundra
fr? we play ct in st now?
subtle tundra
ok...
balmy condor
why tf would we do that
subtle tundra
fuck if i know
balmy condor
fuck if I know either bro
strange sleet
Maybe I was lucky but it didn't drop with CT ticks for me in the dummys
balmy condor
it's not the ticks
that's fixed
last week it was calculating the 15% chance for each target hit on cast
subtle tundra
last week it was calculating the 15% chance for each target hit on cast
spam ct in aoe?
balmy condor
varas please shut the fuck up bro
subtle tundra
15*7=105% to proc
marble hemlock
those arent mutually exclusive are they?
subtle tundra
i drive to work so they kind of are
ofc drive drunking is a hobby for some
wide sleet
i drive to work so they kind of are
ofc drive drunking is a hobby for some
Dont knock it till you try it
dawn seal
guys is it normal to get bad parses on ur first season
subtle tundra
define bad
dawn seal
like I only killed brood and kyveza once
on my mage yeah I have gray logs
I think after rasha
its all gray
except queen
but queen is invalidated
and I died on silken
marble hemlock
ye its not ideal, but depending on ilvl, kill times etc. parsing much higher than blue on a first kill is kinda unrealistic
since youre competing with a fuckload of people who are rekilling the boss for the 5th time with much better killtimers and sitting on 639 ilvl
that being said, greyparsing = no bueno and almost always indicates that youre doing something wrong too
strange sleet
last week it was calculating the 15% chance for each target hit on cast
I'm gonna give it a try.
And just to be sure, in theory if the set is not bugged I should be losing the stacks on average 1 every 11 casts aprox (less because of the 4p but yeah). If is still bugged then it's 1 every 2 casts in 5 targets yeah?
dawn seal
I learned my character When I was progging queen
but yeah like fully understand it idk what I ll do if I do a reclear
balmy condor
I'm gonna give it a try.
And just to be sure, in theory if the set is not bugged...
should be losing a little more than 1 every 2 on 5 targets
it's basically 50% on 4
so on 5 it would be closer to 60
strange sleet
yeah ok gonna try
subtle tundra
weird ass math
balmy condor
normal ass math varas
if you flip a coin once, you have a 50% chance, yes?
heads/tails, 50/50
if you flip it twice, does that mean you have a 100% chance of landing heads?
hollow river
Yes.
hollow river
subtle tundra
i wont elaborate
theres a reason i almost failed my probabilities class
and ive studied probabilities for both my bachelors and masters
balmy condor
💀
marble hemlock
hes not wrong there
marble hemlock
if you flip it twice, does that mean you have a 100% chance of landing heads?
depends on whether you flipped heads the first time, imo
cuz obviously the odds of flipping heads twice in a row are lower than flipping tails and heads, right?
marble hemlock
ill just go to bed before whispyr mutes me for trolling
marble hemlock
(respectfully)
strange sleet
So, it's definitely not 1 every 2. Not sure about 1 every 11 either but seems kinda right.
After 11 mins of spaming FoK/CT
with some ruptures in between
Also 4p it's garbage? I didn't see the stacks go from sub10 to 10 stacks directly in those 11 minutes
subtle tundra
yes our tier set is garbage!
strange sleet
Also, my WA doesn't want to track the Winning Streak! buff
balmy condor
So, it's definitely not 1 every 2. Not sure about 1 every 11 either but seems ki...
yeah they probably hotfixed it
that was the last remaining bug
probably made it in with the patch this week
strange sleet
Well that's good I guess
But they have to do something with the 4 piece tho
it's horrible I think
subtle tundra
he thinks
balmy condor
you think?
strange sleet
Maybe it's bugged or something I hope
balmy condor
that is the correct way to play it atm
it is not bugged
it's just bad
see also when I said exactly that
marble hemlock
i cant read
balmy condor
I know seli
subtle tundra
youre sleeping thats why you cant read
marble hemlock
what are you saying?
strange sleet
0.6% chance or 0.6% DPS increase?
wild thorn
does it matter if i clear the fok proc after or before rupture if i have 5+ combo points before it
subtle tundra
it doesnt matter when you use the fok proc as long as you do
subtle tundra
ok
dawn seal
how is that rng :o
wild thorn
crit
dawn seal
dont u get fok thing when u apply death stalkers mark
strange sleet
0.6% dps
okok. I was just confused because I didn't see it proc even once in 11 minutes. At least while having less than 10 stacks.
balmy condor
wild thorn
dont u get fok thing when u apply death stalkers mark
yea but if im not mistaken critting with fok gives additional points
balmy condor
didn't you just say you aren't tracking it
dawn seal
ye
strange sleet
I said WA was not tracking it. I was watcjing my buffs all the time
balmy condor
I see
strange sleet
I see
Do you know what's the chance of the 4p proccing? If it is implemented in the Sim it should be known right? Or am I tripping?
balmy condor
Do you know what's the chance of the 4p proccing? If it is implemented in the Si...
20%
subtle tundra
strange sleet
Okok. Then I guess I was super unlucky (by not proccing or procing while already at 10 stacks)
balmy condor
can happen I guess
strange sleet
Yeah which is shit, because going from 1 to 10 is way better than going from 10 to 10...
I think 😮
balmy condor
I mean doesn't really matter
you have the improved 10 stacks for 4 seconds regardless of how many stacks you had before
and the stacks are maintained after the 4 second window
so you don't lose anything
1 stack or 10 the benefit in total is the same
strange sleet
Yeah I guess that not losing 10 stacks is kinda the same as losing 1 and going directly to 10
hearty reef
and the stacks are maintained after the 4 second window
Oh then thats where the power of 4p is
It's like a lucky shortcut to get to 10
balmy condor
what
no
if you're at 3 and it procs, you get 10 stacks for 4 seconds
then sets you back to 3
hearty reef
Oh
strange sleet
oh what?
hearty reef
balmy condor
it's 0.6% dps
strange sleet
yeah.....
hearty reef
Can i ask something wellspyr?
prisma monolithBOT
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
when did the napkin math for it a while back I estimated it at 0.7%
and the maintaining of the previous stacks was worth like
0.012%
or something
hearty reef
What enabled the lingering shiv this new tier that didnt past one?
royal lantern
"what if all of assa dmg is envenom" gets more real every patch
and the result is that kb without other cds is weaker then envenom
so you shiv for envenom
balmy condor
we're up to 34% if you count poison bomb
fringe crater
!nw
prisma monolithBOT
The breath/frontal from the first boss in Necrotic Wake is an attack, not a spell.
In order to immune the the breath, you must be in the first second of cloak of shadows (“a moment of magic immunity”). After the first second of cloak of shadows has elapsed, the attack will hit you and no longer be immuned.
Alternatively you can use evasion to dodge the breath.
fringe crater
Does evasion also work for sikran? Given that his aoe works similarly with cloak only working the first sec
fringe crater
🤨
What's the reasoning behind that being different from the breath? is it because it's a full aoe in 360 degrees around you versus the breath being a frontal which you can face?
subtle tundra
cause theyre coded differently
fringe crater
I thought sikran also only worked in the first second of cloak because it was an attack?
or does sikran work for the full cloak duration?
balmy condor
cloaks first second is a magic immunity
subtle tundra
theres plenty of aoes you can evasion btw
balmy condor
has nothing to do with spell or not
subtle tundra
yes!
balmy condor
!!
winged quail
You just have to guess which kind of AoE it is
Or learn the hard way and brick someone else’s key
balmy condor
I mean there's not that many weird ones
fringe crater
But what's the difference for cloak then in terms of sikran? I thought the first second was immunity vs magic spells AND magic attacks versus after that second it working only versus magic spells
at least that was how I interpreted the !nw command
balmy condor
first second is a super immunity, the rest is just a regular immune
subtle tundra
its a 20 year old game, the code is a convoluted mess with inconsistancies
balmy condor
yeh
subtle tundra
rogue defensives have always been trial and error
even with cheat death there are mechanics you will die through ocasionally
subtle tundra
i mean if its a big enough hit
balmy condor
yeah but that's a known, consistent thing
subtle tundra
what i meant to say with that ocasionally is that theres some of those mechanics
not that its inconsistant
balmy condor
oh sure
fringe crater
Great, I was finally happy with my reasoning of cloak first sec = magic spell + attack, rest is only spell. But instead it's just cloak first sec = you're good, rest is = "just hope it's coded the way you think it should be"
balmy condor
yes
cloak doesn't matter for attacks, it's just if it's magic and then maybe good enough maybe not
typically good enough
1/100 times it's not, and that's when you get sikran
evasion is just fully "can you dodge"
which is never the case on spells
fringe crater
Evasion logic is in that case = 1. has to be an attack 2. has to be directed towards you?
balmy condor
just has to be a dodgeable attack, and you are in position to dodge it
fringe crater
Yeah ok because there's also undodgeable attacks like those scientists before boss 3 in NW that just clap you with a tank buster even though you're evading when they are chasing you
fringe crater
aha ok, didn't know about the spell part in that case. Just thought it was an "undodgeable attack"
so that they can actually code properly
balmy condor
most tank busters have to be spells or else monks would just dodge tank busters
and that would be insanely op
fringe crater
Yeah that makes sense I guess
subtle tundra
most tank busters have to be spells or else monks would just dodge tank busters
i remember in shadowlands where sometimes id hear the tank call he has 100% dodge chance so he is fine
that was funny to me
wispy epoch
most tank busters have to be spells or else monks would just dodge tank busters
Exploding Keg 😭
balmy condor
what is the difference between omega super immunity and regular immune
The first second of cloak has super immune and the other 4 seconds have regular immune
That’s it
wispy epoch
Yeah. Like Silkran you’ll get knocked back if you cloak too early
rare jackal
The first second of cloak has super immune and the other 4 seconds have regular ...
if that doesnt make sense, dont worry, its not meant to 🙂
midnight mist
well its written in the tooltip so
spice surge
I mean sure its kinda written in the tooltip
But its written way more like flavour rather than the specific super immunity thing
royal lantern
^
spice surge
The amount of unltra jank around it also indicates that its not really intended to work like that either
rare jackal
its completely nonsensical
whole snow
Is assasination actually really bad on ptr or is it just bug/sim issues
maiden gale
bug issues
winged sun
idk if u guys tested
tier set
but it looks like it works fine as of around 8 hrs ago
spice spire
It’s just weak
spice spire
Only thing that was bugged now was CT dots proccing and I’m almost positive that’s been fixed
spice spire
its weak for sub aswell
Did they fix sub?