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you are too confident 
or dawn
Dawn is a banger
yeah ... its also too long and the damage doesnt scale properly and would be FUCKING MERCILESS at higher keys. the mechanics are fucking stupid
and no its not a banger... timeways is one of the worst designed mythic dungeon bosses EVER
thats not a hot take
thats fuckin fact
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those are some takes yes
yeah i have different takes than the 15% of the playerbase that even bothers with this shit anymore
Youre assuming it was ever much higher
it was during BfA and Legion. Even during S1 of shadowlands
Theres a reason you keep seeing Atal Dazar and Waycrest and Boralus and black rook in the rotation and how some have never been in the rotation even once
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how I feel when people say ttk wa doesn't matter because we have infinite energy now anyways
like leave me alone

No
Skyardin ever drops or its just a myth? swear never seen anyone get one
its easier to get from vault than from dung
Itâs mega rare
In keys
I personally never had it drop only once
And it was traded to me
But
On vault
I saw mythic skardynâs 4 times on my rogue

i still havent seen it,been farming the entire season
Hi, in the M+ build with crimson tempest, do you use that in ST with deathmark on the boss or no?
Thanks babe
Trinket farm feels mega stupid, honestly. Maybe we should get one coin per completed max loot level m+ to buy stuff at a specific vendor. Like 20 coins for a trinket. They could even make a coin per dungeon to force ppl still farming it.
Imagine not having skardyns until now and regularly farming GB
How many runs are you at now then?
580?

ive stopped farming gb specifically and did wahtever key i had.Think i am close to 35-ish gbs but dont care anymore
I had 35 on the 3rd day of the season 
my ponytails has 110 keys in total
mage another 120-ish
i had to stop obsessing
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In which dungeons you play the talent â sudden Demiseâ for m+ ?
I play it in all of them
None of them 
Blindside activates my neuron cells
Jk
Yall are on a bender fr fr
Sudden demise normally does 2-3% of overall, but on Ara Kara it does 6-7% of overall which is a big number
But the perma 10% bleed buff is nice
can't stop the holiday bender now
thhe 10% bleed is the point of the talent
not the "execute"
Ikr
thats just a side effect that kinda helps in content where stuff dies fast
When I get 6 blindsides back to back
Reminds me of the crackshot spam in DF S3
Absolutely surreal
If the pack lives after initial opener, do i spread raptures first thing after all the maintenance stuff?
packs normally dont live that much but there is a time factor in which u refresh ur bleeds
as in live enough to have value out of them
well i assume it varies quite a bit depending on target count since energy income is a factor
hard to say, are they gonna live for like 10 more seconds? probably not worth to spread and just spam envenom for spatter value, are they gonna live for like 30 more seconds? probably worth to spread ruptures
well no rupture kinda just is bad
itâs not rly a mobs living issue
after the 5 for scent who cares

or am i misreading
idk iâm tired i check this channel before i fall asleep
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im assuming he did the initial spread, did all the cooldowns and now its about time where ruptures are running out
and question is about rerupturing
mm
tbh i just assumed he wouldnt not spread the scent ruptures before cooldowns
âspreadâ is just a vague and annoying word
if spread means you have 5 ruptures already and youâre doing more then ew
iâm too sleepy gn
can the 150% random citrine also procc the mainstat one for 150% stats?
hey, how do i sim my char for m+? do i choose dungeon slice or what do i choose? đ
Dungeonslice, yes
is it normal that it takes so long? have premium and 650k iterations and it takes like 30mins đ
It takes decently longer than patchwerk yes
What about systemic failure now gives 20% crit chance to mut and ambush instead of dmg?
i mean if you are simming all gems and enchants its gonna take a while
Uh what?
What?
I'm sure there is, but is there any data on how much of a dps increase secondary stats are over others?
E.g if I wanted to try sin but I'm currently outlaw and wanted to recraft ring and neck for sin stats - would that be enough?
sin kinda likes all stats, but mastery is strongest for assa and dogshit for outlaw
you probably also have too much haste if you played kir
dumb ass question but how are ppl doing 1.9m+ dps on st bosses when we sim like 1.5 +14% raidbuff, is it only killtimings?
Sims donât necessarily represent actual in game dps, theyâre a tool used for picking gear
But some raid fights also have adds or damage amps etc
kill time is very important also, for example if boss dies right before you get another set of CDs off it looks kinda shit
ye im talking strictly st bosses like kyveza+sikran
Ye still, sims arenât always going to match in game dps
But lots of factors can also make gap wider
mastery is not "strongest for assa" đ
Always done HO so haste isn't massively high. But if I have a bit too high versa and slightly low mastery I should still be fine right
look up the 13% dmg buff
look up all the various random buffs other specs do/give
look up kill timers
look up high rolling
do some top gear sims where you swap stats on some of your crafted gear
yeah ok, it's not always strongest. But most likely strongest coming from outlaw stats
after a search i think i have my answer but just want to confirm: DM and KB are dynamic and do not snapshot, yes? i got treacherous transmitter and wanted to make sure iâm not missing damage by macroing transmitter into DM and completing the task after my CDs
word ty!
Does dynamic mean the bonus from transmitter applies on the already existing dot?
ye
Tyty

Nice to see you here
im in shambles after last reclear mik
Did they put you in rogue prison now
heck yes
Dm me if you need help brother
will do
a fate worse then death
anyone have a WA that tracks tricks?
hey, trying to sort my crafted gear, i currently have 1x dagger with Asendance 1x belt with dawwnthread.
i need to craft something else (probably another dagger ) but the wowhead line is confusing it says
"Unlucky Dagger
We all get unlucky sometimes, it happens. If you're not getting any dagger drops, it's worth considering crafting Everforged Stabber Everforged Stabber to try and have SOMETHING in that slot. Don't worry, I won't tell anyone. You can also put Darkmoon Sigil: Ascension Darkmoon Sigil: Ascension on it, free two for one! Pay special attention to make sure you DO NOT CRAFT AN int dagger"
i dont quite understand the two for one bit? what do they mean ?
and should my next craft just have no embelishment?
you can only have 2 embelishments
and if you use a dagger with ascendance, you want the nerubian patch as 2nd embelishment
ascenadance without the patch is bad
ah so recraft the belt - then make a dagger with nothing on it? for my 3rd crafted?
if all other slots are on a decent ilvl, yeha sure
offhand weapons is the lowest priority slot
at the point where i've fully upgraded heroic stuff and am just waiting for caches or crafted
so trying to get it right
overall the "gear importance" is Mainhand weapon>>>>>>slots that give mainstat>>>>Rings/Necks>>>>>Offhand
offhand is basically just a statstick
sure thanks
it has no impact on your abiliy dmg or smth like that
got you perfect appreciate it
so yeha, updated other slots first, and do offhand as crafted item only if you have a crafted item free and no other slot to fill with

the neat part about a crafted mainhand dagger is
if you get a Mythic level dagger from Raid/Vault
you can just put the crafted dagger in your offhand
well, cloaks or D tier trinkets is all the vault ever has

thanks again
me atm in cata, not getting a 1,8 speed Dagger
what are our go to trinkets for raid and m+
in m+ crystal sims a lil better than dead eye but dead eye sims way better in st so dead eye is the better option? got skardyns already
So if I have regicide and kukri, but Kukri is higher ilvl, do i use kukri in the main hand slot even though the bis guide says to use regicide mainhand?
Nah itâs the best prison, he couldâve been banished to play dh yâknow

Yes
It does not tell you to put your Regicide in the main hand
!bis
BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.
Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS is especially not helpful, and we do not have any of them. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. Use Top Gear/Droptimizer to compare against your character
^ Read this, internalize it
"bis" is a fake concept
The bis lists on wowhead are not gospel, they literally exist to drive engagement to the website, not to provide a gearing guide
Oh OK, that's good to know. Thanks for the info

no it fucking isnt
what the fuck does that mean
?!?!
ascendance doesnt immediately become bad if you wear another different embelishment
its still the same fucking shit
?!?!!
you can also have 2 daggers with ascendance on
bro they should honestly delete embellisments
nah
Giving the illusion of choice by making all embellishments suck is what sucks
arenas
yup they basicly need either a buff or get deleted
Illusion of choice is good though
Means you don't have to sweat different embellishment sets, but still gives something to chase
but itâs not even illusion
i donât think you people understand what the words you are using mean
if there are multiple options all at the same power level that gives you real choice
not an illusion

illusion of choice would be if thereâs one particularly good option and the rest are bad which isnât the case
embellishments donât matter is true but
You're just nitpicking lmao
If there was one particularly good option and the rest were bad, you still wouldn't have illusion of choice
'cause you can still choose the bad ones

like no shit you have "real choice"
It's just an "illusion" 'cause the difference isn't big enough to really matter
and there's always more in your own gameplay you can improve etc
but we're kinda just having a semantics argument so who cares
i am nitpicking but at least iâm nitpicking correctly
you literally would, having only one viable option makes the other choices fake

Yeap, I agree
all of them doing basically the same shit and and having the same power level ain't exactly super duper amazing
when nothing matters, it's pretty shit
Youâre so right pls bring back sporecloak
the alternative is one being the best and you having no choice to switch things around based on other gear drops
same goes for the spec itself
Need that shit biblically
Are there 391 daggers?
you can press any buttons in any order and still do 90% of the max damage
best would be to have clearly different options for different kind of content
but then you'd have to solve how you can swap that stuff around so you're not locked into it
it's all just a big mumbojumbo
t2 is highest ilvl dunno check the vendors
heart of azeroth 2.0
everyone gets a neck that u just switch an embellishment on
holy 
solution has been found
dps race
ye
probably sd then yea
ok
steal other peoples damage or something i donât know man 
will trade 3rd mythic skardyn for anything pls
.. yes that doesnt hurt at all
they should remove soulbound
all good
so i can give away my items iâm never going to touch again because the game sucks
i feel like vault rng is a lot worse than it use to be
im getting same thing every week almost
well thatâs the thing with rng
is that
the random number generator generates random numbers
so youâre just getting unlucky

next week pal log in
wanna go deep in some thots tbh
Haha hey
heyyyy quakey

well that was a good morning of arguing for no reason and threatening to have sex with quake again
time to get up and play poe
have fun guys
Login big dog
i think i make hcssf character today
i have trained enough
itâs time
:LOGIN:
Bruh
Just make it a monk and make it omega hard mode for you early on
i am making a monk yea
invoker is super broken

using lightnign arrow lightning rod until level 14 though
First 9 levels of monk are hard mode
monk pre ice strike is super dogshit
Dog ainât NO WAY
but as soon as u get lvl14
icestrike is mad op
and carries u
i did natty monk 1-14 on softcore
not doing it again
wasnt f un
Mf said monk? Iâm playing ranger
Yeah monk sucks early on
yo why do i keep getting raw singing citrine this week? i've got 3, if use all of them my ring will be at 658
its pretty chill
St yesh
invoker scales stupid hard
i played 1 day of softcore endgame and i have 6 active spirit buffs from 1 lucky body armour craft

Maybe Iâll retry monk.
Itâs legit the only class I died to the Miller on and I was like nah
Iâm also not deep into it at all
Cpu diff makes me want to Subaru when I get to certain bosses
this node is insanely fucked up

this one is also really good
Thatâs insane

L chatters
anyone know when season 2 gonna realsed?
Late February
ah kk
I have a 82 monk and it shreds, went flicker strike angle
Monk is cool. But Warrior is amazing (and awful initially)
Monk is great once you get past early game and I see it
Early is just so dogshit man
Random af question: So I have my DM and SG trinket on a macro but on the next usage the trinket is like, 5 sec behind DM. Am I being stoopid?
Early game feels dogshit on most if you donât have currency to buy twink items
Is FS good or is it kinda of a meme/expensive to make it work build?
Both
Iâm only at like 5-6div invest and it does fine
But need more levels for it to be smooth for more power charges
That should not happen, unless some paladin blessing of autumn of whatever shenanigans took place?
I've only done arc/lightning/spark since I like the visuals but fs looks cool and more fun to play
could be this weeks affix
Monk is probably retired now anyway, leveling a merc
EU?
Assume itâs the affix doing it
winning.
im jerkin something else
oh.
Whatcha jerkin king?
Some chicken? Love jerk chicken
Gonna steal that one
That is so fucking funny
But also good on you for going through with jacking it January
decent outlaw weapon next to it but the chest was so good ;-;
any1 know if i can carry essence on queen mythic and skip ring with Cloak of shadows?
"decent" and "outlaw" in the same sentence
shadowstep a mage
ye, beside shadowstep, you tried cloak? just to make sure
if won't put you the debuff but you will still get dragged along the wave
won't recommend
Aye, but is there no objectively better? top 100 just like 13 sub, but still, wondering
if you need webs to die for some reason sub would probably be better
or small spiders in last phase but i feel like other classes just do that better
And how are others dealing with webs, if you are assassin for example. like cloak/vanish/freedom, but then you lose vanish for dps
Isn't this answering your own question?
No
Yea, that was a rhetorical question
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
No, no it wasnt

Just because somesthing is high, or has more representation. doesnt mean its objectively better
you vanish the first one
so you dont really lose dps
cause the timing is almost right
If it's performing better. It's objectively better.
Yeah, i mean, you lose dps from master ass, on first vanish but i assume you just say f it, for first one
shh dude,

most of the time it lines up
nah you dont lose MA
i still vanish 6s before KB ends
lines up perfectly with first webs
Any idea what time the first webs come in at?
The exact second
Yeah just checking, that makes senes because Vanish would be around 17/18
Okay, sick, didnt even notice this
looking at an old log
in aoe, if shiv is off cd, but kingsbane is still on cooldown, do i send the shiv or save it for the kingsbane window?
I have no idea because I don't raid. But based on Kush opinion (I heard him say this on stream), Sub is better for progress because you need damage in p2 or something like that, and assa can not deliver properly I think
But I guess that it depends on your raid.
You save it
This makes more sense, and is a more rounded response, Vs the man telling me the logs have the answer, so thank you
shiv doesn't do much in aoe
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If in m+ you have 2 shiv uses to every one kb without taking a second charge. As long as you have shiv up for kb you can send the extra between cds
Just isnât worth using in aoe though
all bosses before get unlocked as vault options
I mean if want to let it sit off cd for 30s sure, but you still have a main target
And itâs still not really worth it
Heard
Guys i've seen that people are using improved wound poison talent on ovinax, which poisons do i use then with this talent?
Don't talent that. My only guess is a small minority of people are taking it to get imp crippling afterwards but that's such a waste
wound poison is unusable in pve
but yeah that's very strange
idk why you would even need superior mixture
Soooooo, what professions are you guys running with rogue?
the ones that sound the coolest
I did jewelcrafting for the first time this expac, pretty neat
mining and herbing cause its fun to fly around picking flowers and mining ore looking at the isle of dorn sunset đ
my rogue is engi/skinning
Might drop skinning for alch now that skininng mats are basically worthless, mostly for the duration buff on flasks
Alchemy for the 2hr flasks
we taking SD and TTK now?
we've been taking those for a long time bud
is it better
?!?!?!?
afaik it's the same patch notes we've already seen
if you put caustic spatter on a target are you stuck with it on that target for the 10 seconds? or will it sawp to another target you mutilate
thank you
slow the little adds
pretyt much it
Guys is it possible to evade blood gorge from 1st boss worm with evasion?
the suck in circle?
No you use evasion for throw up mech
In Necrotic Wake? No, Evasion doesn't work (but Monk dodge does for some reason)
For court prog should I use CDs on pull or wait until first increased damage window?
Would recommend following lorrgs
But you wait for first amp phase
Thanks boss
the first boss in necrotic wake frontal? evasion does work vs that
It works on the frontal, not the worms blood gorge.
ah gotcha
Kinda want to play fatebound on court cause I hate keeping track of mark
(Most of the time if you vanish you can make it someone elses problem when they re-fixate)
do i see it right that during skarmorak we need to kill as many shards as possible before shield phase?
do we have to be rogue?
no
whatserver
idk is there more than one ptr server?
prayge is fyrakk
he was in origrimar on stream
ah
Dornogal dummies stink and are buggy
@balmy condor where i org, i am rachella
dummy in valley of honor
the round hut
with the pvvp dummy
wheres ptr channel for all our changes?
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What is the talent that refunds all combo points on my first rupture? Feels like when I do my opener rotation my CP are refilled every time first
Serrated bone spike
bone spike refunds cp? TIL
It grants 1+ one for each
Yeah
So when you open in m+ it sends all 3
1+2+3, and any crits
we could do a wishlist type thing

ty
im famous now
Not true
We can see how good the tier is
It counts right?

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what are the best poisons for m+?
the ones you have talented + crippling
with sanguine blades in m+ do you use ct on bosses?
hey is mdt required for a +12? it seems every siege im in they ask for a two shrouds
No
To Whom are you responding to
You do not use CT on singletarget no
ok thx.
Both
okay thanks, someone told me i needed mdt going forth for +12s
I have mdt and Iâve never used it and Iâve been asked for shroud exactly one time all season and it was just a ping lol
Nothing matters. Entropy comes for us all
to optimize cds
and thats kind of like a group thing to do
to pull optimal for the groups key level and dps to adapt so cooldown lines up well
Heâs asking about 12âs. Relax.
is fan of knives more optimal than mutilate at 6 cp and dn up?
Nop
Mutilate

In st or aoe though?
how tf I always mess up something... ST
Ah yeye
You could save your ctw proc or hope garrote is in pandemic
whats the current max ilvl for the new ring? before eu reset
652, but you can get it to that ilvl now
649, but u can actually upgrade the ring already evn on EU so now its 652 as of this reset
aha kk ty
i just dont know the route for shroud in siege, the first one right before the first boss
Thatâs a time waste. Key will never be timed with all that nonsense typing smh my head
antropic,crippling,instant,deadly ?
Perfect
Deadly, amplifying, crippling and atrophic/numbing
hey guys, completely new to assa and rogue in general. I am REALLY struggling with energy on bosses in m+. is there any advice around this? or can you point me towards any guides on how to manage energy with an aoe centred talent build? can't find much about this on wowhead/IV
!design
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
so basically not 'casting' anything to maintain uptime on envenom is not bad
i've played relatively spammy specs before this so it feels weird
if for some reason you're talented into dragon-tempered and not amp poison, then yeh
correct
and yes that is why many people don't vibe with assas because it feels like you're doing something wrong by not filling all of your globals
but we're limited by energy instead of globals
so being efficient with your energy and buffs is more important
that makes a whole lot of sense now. I just thought I'm doing something awfuly wrong running out of energy 30 secs into a boss fight
but baiscally i need to stop spamming envenom

especially in an m+ build
you're gonna run out of energy
and that's just kinda how it is
but you can mitigate some of the pain
by playing around envenom uptime
instead of cramming globals
thanks shmeeps appreciate your answers
thanks shmeeps appreciate your answers
thanks shmeeps appreciate your answers

thanks shmeeps appreciate your answers
I have this exact same issue. The specs lower APM is hard for me to adjust to. Especially with most of my time playing is in keys where aoe is basically infinite energy.
these are my talents
They are simulating well
do you recommend any other?
Ăs there another power creep this week in raid? or still at 14%
whats stronger in mythic court, authority of the depths or radiant power?
those are single target raid talents yep. So the rule of poison the ones you have talented, amp poison, deadly poison, atrophic,and then crippling for the last slot cause nothing else available
power everywhere
someone said here, that deathstalker's mark should be on anub in p1, in intermission 1 and phase 2 it should be on takaj, then on intermission 2 and p3 it should go back on anub, is this true?
The deathstalker mark you mean?
yeah sure
deathstalker yes
it's always whatever boss you're hitting for the phase
and then just save the mark for intermission
whats confusing to me is that in p3 the primary amp target is takaj right
since in p3 youre supposed to leave anub's amp time so you can chase takaj for dispells/pulls
most strats skip the first damage amp on anub yes
Hi, can you clarify something for me?, the combo point skills (let's say envenom for this example) the skill description specifies the damage up to 7 combo points, any extra combo point (or the enchanced ones) are wasted beyond 7 or does it scale by the points spent on the skill?
Also, these talents at the end of the rogue tree make each enchanced combo point be worth 3 or 4?
it scales, combo points are linear gains, so the difference between 4 and 5 for example is the same as 7 and 8 or 11 and 12 or 1,000,000 and 1,000,001
the top talent is "as if they spent 2 additional", forced induction increases the bonus by 1, so 2+1 = 3
Then with this node would it make it 4?

"as if they spent 2 additional"
then the talent you just linked
forced induction
says "increase the bonus by 1"
what is 2 + 1
21
lebron james
I will stab you
With?
Basilisk tooth
ok sorry i was confused because supercharges said it were 2 additional, so I assumed "the one I already spent, plus 2", but with that out of the way, the envenom skill scales "linearly (sorry me not speak english)" with every point spent, but the bonus of each point is the same
it is the ones you spent + 2
what is confusing about this
let's talk about the talent super charger, each enchanced is counted as 2 or 3
brother
you can't be serious
it's 2
supercharger says 2
2 additional
if you cast a finisher with 4 combo points
and you have supercharger
it's now 6
4 + 2
TWO
ty bro
ok thanks
hey, just quick question, but why are the top rogues maghar now and no dwarfs anymore? isnt the dispell more worth or am i missing smth. ty ^^
so as dispell isnt crazy good rn, they just go for highest sim and thats maghar? alright thank you ^^
ok nice ty
Three?
ST with caustic is fine on Rash right?
how do i write a macro for tricks
why is whispyr called of hating 11.0.7?
Grim times for rogue?
Na patch just didnt do much of anything
@balmy condor u have tricks macro
!tricks
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

I'm having some trouble arranging the skills on the action bars and also with key binding, like, the stance bar, on invisibility, I prefer to have the same skills that I have out of invisibility, so I can see the timers and also use the both group of skills when I get out of inv using Subterfuge talent passive, also, I have the same skill multiple time on my bars, depending of the modifier related, normal on target, shift on focus, usually, I don't know, I'm not happy about it...
Caustic doesnât really have the range to hit adds on rash
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what are you asking exactly?
you can also use mod macros to have all of those functions on 1 keybind
I don't know, I'm lost, never played for reals, but I wanna improve in pvp and do arenas
I know, but is it a good practice, I mean, should I go for it? It would certainly free some space on bars
that's how i do it yeah
if you want to talk more we can go to the pvp channel #pvp
I gotta go right now, but I will bring it up again when on #pvp when I come back đ

what should minimum haste % be?
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
New player to wow. I'm lvl 73 on my first ever character which is a Assassination Rogue. I just got War Within and doing the Campaign. Having a big struggle on killing ads or bosses. Any tips on why that is. I'd appreciate the help.
Did we get nerfed and i not see it? i feel like im doing considerably less damage all of the sudden
Did you make sure to apply your poisons?
lol yes
ASk me how i know....I am people
But to answer your question, no
but thatw as first thing i checked
Afaik nothing changed today at all

You can post a link, someone might take a look at some point
Whatâs your build look like blud
I'm following this. https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/assassination/rogue/mythic-plus/overview/10/all-dungeons/this-week but as far as gear. just super random from doing quests
Build is probably fine. Rogue is just not very easy to level up. Bleed things up the best you can and use cds often
Take iron wire instead of sanguine blades and also change out caustic for internal bleeding
You could play the fatebound hero talent and sometimes the double tails flip from stealth will kill mobs for you too
i hate how blame is obfuscated in mythic court
which parts
betrayal, and also dispells
those are the most obvious things to blame on that fight

betray is just who wasn't in their group -> they fucked up
dispel is -> did it bounce? was the debuffed under boss? then it's the person it bounced to
if you just miss the dispel it's even easier cause the dispels are assigned and you already know which healer it is
Good new vid, this tier bonus is garbage unless 4 piece proc % gets buffed
if i didnt have video footage, my guild wouldnt believe i didnt betray the same healer 5 times in a row
theyre like "this happens to you all the time, whats going on"
uh, this guy is suicide bombing me
I mean you don't even need video
y'all got logs
just pull up the logs
takes 2 seconds to check who wasn't in their group
ty, actually reminds me I need to make a pin about it
I was told ilvl on a assassin rogue is usually king when considering upgrades. im wondering if anyone in here can tell me if this is simbait or not? i got 2 myth tier pieces drop and sim is saying to stay with my crafted. here are links to sims both aoe and ST https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/asH4MP51XMkrkTUySTUmEB https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8ZKCwwuEg1VYdTMwUgko1Y
Season 2 Tier Set PTR findings
The tier is insanely jank and probably bugged in like 5 different ways and really weak numerically and awful to play around and probably also not worth playing around and it sucks a ton I have no clue how this made it onto the PTR servers in this state, it clearly was not tested even a little bit internally.
2 Piece:
- The 15% chance to remove can trigger from rupture/ct TICKS. This means especially in AoE, you are just instantly losing your winning streak the moment it procs (10 procs per minute)
- The damage buff is dynamic, so no snapshotting bleeds or anything, just extra envenom damage essentially
4 Piece:
- "A chance" = roughly 20-25% from what we could see. This is REALLY BAD. Like Horrendously bad. The worst outcome. It means that you're basically just sitting there hoping to hit a random chance that gives you no feedback outside of your weakauras blinking and pray you can make use of the 4 second window. It's asinine.
- the "30% additional effect" part seems to actually be 50% for god knows what reason. So regular max stack -> +30%, when your 4 piece procs -> +45% (30*1.5)
- Triggering the 4 piece actually maintains your 2 piece stacks afterwards, so you just go back to the stacks you had before, which is great, except the whole rupture/CT proccing the loss effect so you just instantly lose it again.
Clown Patch.
haste sucks in aoe so yeah that makes sense, the single target one is really close
be like that
this is why we sim
Surely the next patch isnt a clown patch 
He says after all the recent patches have been
Clowntown in here
ilvl is generally king but like, it's not an permanent rule
so trust the sim?
I donât think it matters that much but he did sim 5 target patchwerk instead of dslice
am i simming wrong for rogue? im fairly new
if we can't trust the sim to compare stats then it fails at the most basic of tasks and we can just forget all knowledge of the spec and the game
Dslice is generally what people use for aoe sims
yeh
wait
5 target 1:30 is pretty funny
the thing gets removed by ticks as well
but m+ is generally dslice
oh that is something
Yeah pretty siiiiiick
how many targets/ time is best?
that is one of the tier sets of all time fs
Dungeon slice is its own sim you donât do time or targets
ahhh okay thank yall. go off dragon slice for both aoe and st?
No just for aoe
single target you sim 1 target patchwerk
would you have bloodlust in your m+ group?
some add pulls sure
then I guess you include blood lust
who are the pookies
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what the fuck lol
hahahaha fuck
Lmfaoooo
pain
should rename that shit to losing streak đĽ
hello people, is there a macro for dm+kb+potion?
almost there king
you dont press dm and kb at the same time
You canât macro more than one GCD
/use Tempered Potion```
Saw your vid Whispyr. Back to outlaw?
is outlaw just as bugged?
0% possibility of telling rn
im 38 runs into GB and still no grace
back to sub*
sub tier design is actually like
pretty good
Once they make it work 
It might be fitting for the spec but im fairly sure were gonna end up either afking or casting some extraneous ruptures outside of dance to be absolutely sure we dont accidently remove all our stacks
The numbers are just too big to gamble a 1/7 chance to not have like 100% more damage on your sectech for a puny eviscerate outside dance
what do you guys use for the third web break on myth queen?
Sub tier woooo
yeah it's strange that the set doesn't include rupture
Just like standing there backstab spamming
at max energy?
Then we just snd
Or afk

yes exactly
that surely can't be worth right

spamming snd between dances would be so many wasted cp
and least rupture you like don't worry about maintaining it and it does damage
but spamming snd just sounds unreal
beg for freedom/tiger's lust
we keep on winning
An eviscerate outside cds does like 500k, during big cds it does like 3M. So dropping a like 50% buff doesnt seem that worth
But ye maybe not, idk its just weird that it incentivizes being afk
Yay gambling
the tier certainly captures the negative part of gambling tho, w life lesson?
Either way shit just doesnt work on the PTR so 
it's thematic to the gambling fantasy of gambling all your money away and then having to eat nachos from a dumpster while you wait for your next paycheck so you can gamble again
getting and instantly losing the buff is just a simulation of putting money into a slot machine just for it to immediately disappear
very thematic!
Yep cant be doing more than 150k dps outside cds, thats way too much
Friday-Saturday - Michelin star resturant
Rest of the week - dumpster nachos
Damn your dumpsters have nachos? Where do you live
Can I get some
ttrolling or what
i have a mythic spyglass and hero skardyn which is irreplaceable
i dont think even at mythic anub is replacing skardyn
2 Piece:
The 15% chance to remove can trigger from rupture/ct TICKS. This means especially in AoE, you are just instantly losing your winning streak the moment it procs (10 procs per minute)
no way that's real
but idk, sim it

i simply can't believe it
surely they just fix it so rupture and ct ticks can only grant the buff and not cause the loss trigger

even dslice?
i didnt check lmao
now i just need to spam +2's befopre i can take my vault out LUL
is taking SD + TTK better?
smartest m+ player
maybe he's hoarse
yo, minimum combo points to get most out of envenom please?
5+
understood thank you
np
LFG
gz
grats
finaly skardyn
I got brezzed into a betrayal right at the end, thats how you know it was real
bro what is that font lmao
he's fancy with it
opening vault in style
m+ is great
im playing +2s now so i can take my vault
(1/8) chance every time
i like it 
Gotta play 20+ +2s before i can take my crystal from vault
So aids when u need to fish for a specific key
:/
I don't know what the everloving fuck you're talking about but it doesn't sound healthy seek help
Fishing for a specific key in my vault. So our team has 5x chances of a key we need instead of getting a bunch of random keys. So i have to run 2s in a 1/8 chance every time i run it

i try to time a +12 cot for a friend... but pugs are horrible in this key ._.
Last week it took 23 attempts
How do you know/change your vault key by running 2âs?
I wish they would remove it tbh but as long as its in the game people are gonna do it
You get a key from the end of the duengon if u dont take your vault yet
But if you turn off auto loot u can see which one it is
Without taking it
And then if itâs the dungeon you want you take your vault?
Oh even in a 2 itâll give you a 17 or 18 key?
Yes
Interesting
If you ran a 17 the week before
And timed it
So i have my bis trinket in my vault
But i cant take it
Until i find the key i want xd
sounds like a garbage system
may it would be cool to choose your key when you reach a specific level
like diablo 3 for rifts
idk
If they took it out youâre just gonna get a random one
Yep ofc
But the best thing would be if you could pick the duengons u wanted on reset
Just not the level
Level would be based on last weeks activity or w/e
Yeah that would be cool.
if i have done the weekly quest to upgrade ring, how do i upgrade on alts? quest not showing on my alts
Speaking to M+ alone, what is better...Spyglass or Enpowering Crystal?
All BIS Myth slot
just like you did every other week, just killing a rare should drop it
crystal is preferred generally
having such a hard time with zekvir as assassination rogue
Just assassinate big crab whatâs the problem
could try looking up an assa rogue doing it on youtube to see how they played it
in general solo content like that may take quite some attempts, like progressing a raid boss
if its lvl 1 zekvir then just make sure the adds are dead before they pop
thanks for the tips, ill check it out
I had peach today and I quite liked it
is gud
My favorite
gonna buy a 20pack on thursday
damn our tier set sucks
i just realised we finish -> build -> maybe do 1 finisher with the 4set and its only good if you use it on envenom
damn it fucking sucks LOL
not only is it not interesting, its just bad
have you checked the video varas, it's even funnier than that
at least right now
probably getting fixed
you put the video while i was eepy mode now im at work
will be a good car video though
I posted clip earlier as well very funny
yeah
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this one

it just insta eats
in aoe
cause all the bleed ticks are doing the 15% removal check
nice one blizz
can they just give use 10% bleed dmg
and 10% nature dmg
and be done













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