assassination

[rotund oak]

yup

[winged sun]

i mean he kinda did low dps too

but

sub was just insane on tindral

[rotund oak]

now its sin,we got all the crazy takes in here

[winged sun]

and i pumped the boss's asshole

[waxen oyster]

sub on tindral opener with double aug

makes you pretend you're good at the game

[winged sun]

[subtle tundra]

man im so good!!!! i outdps'd someone

holy moly

ego stroking the whole day

[winged sun]

man im so good!!!! i got r1 on my 1st kill

holy moly
ego stroking the whole day

[waxen oyster]

I mean best one is probably still nibren

Not even trying to glaze

[winged sun]

my log was private

private logs > public fake logs

[proven jasper]

Stroke dn

[spice spire]

Ok

[strange sleet]

Every class is kinda hard to minmax tho. Assa too, but it's kinda noob friendly I think. But maybe I say this cause I've been playing priest for ever

[rotund oak]

u are gaslighting guy now but i aint tagging him,he's gonna nuke me 😂

[brittle fulcrum]

EXACTLY

[proven jasper]

[spice spire]

I am ASS at priest

Respect

[waxen oyster]

I meant on who probably is the best at class consistently.

[brittle fulcrum]

Which is why make outlaw meta again so I can click rupture in peace

[proven jasper]

Click???

[spice spire]

Buddy trying to click tea in peace too

[uneven nymph]

clicking is meta

[brittle fulcrum]

not literally

lmao

[waxen oyster]

I've never heard nibren have baked takes.

But maybe i just missed them.

[rotund oak]

ild say lok is the most based pirate

[winged sun]

[brittle fulcrum]

The only thing I click is nameplates anybody else?

[waxen oyster]

For pirate yes

[winged sun]

i need to ask outlaws of how baked my takes are lately

are they super hot or what

[spice spire]

He’s a musclebrah fan

[waxen oyster]

Sub I'd say is stealthi or nukkz

[spice spire]

So you know he’s incredible based

[waxen oyster]

90% sure its jokes

[spice spire]

It is

Nibren good lad

[rotund oak]

[waxen oyster]

his dh was named musclebrah too

last i checked

[winged sun]

muslebrah

[spice spire]

[winged sun]

dude i wonder if he ever thinks one day of what the wow community thinks of him

[proven jasper]

GARRET 1 GARRET 2 GARRET 3

HAHAH

Such a Funny clip

[waxen oyster]

When does zeross blue class

come out

[winged sun]

he's there

im just preping for season 2

not rly trying to rly push

cuz i was away for 7 months

kinda rough to just push all the way to the top when ur already behind

[waxen oyster]

isnt enhace being like

boned by their 11.1 rework

[winged sun]

idk

havent been looking anything at 11.1

waiting on season 2 ptr then i'll play the meta class

[rotund oak]

racoon god

too based

[winged sun]

sad that shaman discord is mega trash

like

i feel like im talking to green rio players whenever i ask things

but when i go to sub/sin channels

i feel like im asking raidbots

everybody knows everything here

[spice spire]

I’m a one trick I just don’t play the game

[winged sun]

maybe its just that rogue players like to actually be good

[spice spire]

So I am ASS

[winged sun]

good one

[spice spire]

2.7k Andy

[strange sleet]

Egoclass

[spice spire]

Strokin it every day king

[fallow canopy]

dog?

[spice spire]

What’s good

[runic hinge]

Rogue is one of the least played classes but one of the highest represented in title and CE. Basically no one plays it unless they’re good

[winged sun]

hmm i agree

[fallow canopy]

thankfully I'm bringing the curve down 😎

[spice spire]

Counterpoint. I play it

[winged sun]

i also think rogue is probably the hardest class in the game

[runic hinge]

I mean I play it

I’m definitely bringing the curve down

[spice spire]

If you’re ahead of the curve

Are you really bringing it down

[winged sun]

dude

[runic hinge]

[winged sun]

i swear

qquake has the best emotes in the world

[ember mural]

Only at spriest

[runic hinge]

I be playing spriest this week

So fun

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-handshake-deal-agree-gif-7134721403924803840

[runic hinge]

Archon kinda jank but overall fun spec

[fallow canopy]

their void star hole thingy looks cool af

compared to our stuff

[spice spire]

I’m going to actually factually void eruption on your back post backshots if you sass me again

[waxen oyster]

i can't think of a class

with worse hero talents

[spice spire]

Archon is meant for big pulls

And in reality

I’m not doing them outside of like

Stone vaults and mists

[ember mural]

If it does the same damage as you did in our last key I'm safe (love youuuuu)

[runic hinge]

Yeah I played it in mists

[fallow canopy]

hunter at launch maybe? tho idk sentinel was cool looking just janky af

[winged sun]

guys

i'll be a fotm reroller in season 2

fk rogue

[waxen oyster]

maybe dh trees

But

same dev

so not a good look

[winged sun]

dude

[spice spire]

0 kick group in a grim batol

[winged sun]

i literally do more dps than every pug enh in the game

[spice spire]

Ain’t no way I’m getting flamed for this

[winged sun]

holy fuck how do i convince them to invite me

[uneven nymph]

holy shit

wait

im locked out the next 10 levels

[spice spire]

Send them a video of you stroking it

[uneven nymph]

until i buy dragonflight?

😭

[runic hinge]

Buy tww

[spice spire]

Oh

[uneven nymph]

im doing tww rn

[waxen oyster]

Yeah zeross where's your enhance

[uneven nymph]

i got the campagin quest

[waxen oyster]

its like outlaw if outlaw had an actual dev

behind it

[winged sun]

man

[runic hinge]

You only need newest expansion

[winged sun]

i heavily enjoy sin atm

its so much fun

[ember mural]

And an undergeared boomie icant

[waxen oyster]

ngl enhance does something

to the monke brain neurons

[uneven nymph]

is this not it?

[waxen oyster]

something about the procs

[uneven nymph]

cuz its the quest im doing

but i dont have an exp bar anymore

[winged sun]

dude

[runic hinge]

Yeah you need new expansion to level past 70

Just cause you’re doing the quest doesn’t mean you can level

[winged sun]

pug enh's are so bad i literally never know that they procced hard

[uneven nymph]

aight time to dump 30 quid on wow

[winged sun]

because they literally miss tempests

24/7

im 100% sure

[waxen oyster]

Yeah pug enhances suck

[winged sun]

its just like outlaw where ppl miss 50-80 bte's entire key

in DF

[winged sun]

even more in some cases

[waxen oyster]

idk zeross i've seen people fuck up havoc

and the log review was

"press more chaos strikes"

[winged sun]

idk people just cant react to tempest procs

meanwhile

we react to bte every 3-4 gcd

ace procs*

as outlaw

[waxen oyster]

I think there are some rules to it?

like sometimes you get refunds

[strange sleet]

Windsinger's Runed Citrine vs Legendary Skipper's Citrine. Opinions?

[winged sun]

for what enh?

like

[waxen oyster]

Yeah

[winged sun]

idk

[waxen oyster]

You wouldnt play the ring if skipper's wasnt a thing

[winged sun]

enh's just suck i always see even top players missing tempest procs

its fine i dont think anyone's able to play something rly fast anyway

everyone*

[waxen oyster]

Yeah enhance is very

proc based

[winged sun]

even tho outlaw is way faster

than enh

[waxen oyster]

and you need to react pretty fast

[winged sun]

but sure

[strange sleet]

Casual is playing with the mastery one I think? That's what murlik.io says

[waxen oyster]

I would say in most scenarios yes

outside of maybe PI lust

[winged sun]

i had situations where i wanted outlaw to just be 0.5 sec gcd

[winged sun]

i rly wanted to play something faster

because red bull is amazing

makes everything slow to me

[waxen oyster]

Yeah surprised you dont play enhance then

[winged sun]

[waxen oyster]

That spec goes pretty zoom

[winged sun]

i do

wait let me show u

[lethal heart]

@gusty mirage

[winged sun]

i hope its still there

[lethal heart]

i need help

[winged sun]

i played with a 639 shaman

at 629

[strange sleet]

Bro Zeross, do you even change target to rupture/garrote in the operner?

[winged sun]

dps diff in the key was 300k i think

[waxen oyster]

You beat him by 300k?

[strange sleet]

I think assa is fine 4 u

[winged sun]

to rupture? u always rupture before u do dps

[winged sun]

no i lost ofc

hes way too geared to win

[waxen oyster]

I've beat 635+ dhs on my 628 one

in raid

[winged sun]

here

[waxen oyster]

was weird

[winged sun]

i mean he isnt that bad

but here

[winged sun]

when do u mean in opener

like

[strange sleet]

I mean when u have 6+ mobs

[waxen oyster]

Why is everyone maghar now

[winged sun]

u always garrote/rupture before spattering kinda

[subtle tundra]

ele shaman is extremely hard

[winged sun]

its more dps in keys

than orc

[subtle tundra]

in its current iteration

[waxen oyster]

than orc?

[winged sun]

ye

[waxen oyster]

surely mainstat is better

[winged sun]

well sims say no

maghar is better

[winged sun]

mid pull yea i do in some situations

if i need energy or if the pack is rly high hp

[waxen oyster]

Yeah depends on spec but I feel mainstat should win for more?

than secondary

[winged sun]

well

orc is better st

maghar is aoe

thats all

also

maghar gives mastery

or crit

so if it procs mastery

big

[waxen oyster]

isnt it one of your 2 highest stats

[winged sun]

ye

so crit/mast now only

which is insane

[waxen oyster]

on rogue i assume

Me when I proc highest stat gem from ring while my chaos flask is on crit

[winged sun]

or if u abuse the chinese bugs u may proc vers

[spice spire]

Okay but imagine you get vers on the final boss of siege and it still eats your ass raw

[winged sun]

u can get

10% vers

basically 10% vers u dont deserve

in keys

+battleshout

[spice spire]

Which means only overkill by 300k!

[winged sun]

i mean u always feint on +16 or someshit

[waxen oyster]

granted both probably fall off

later in expac

[winged sun]

oh its kinda getting late i go bedge

[spice spire]

Gn

[tight ginkgo]

I’m imagining

[spice spire]

muse is into tentacles

[winged sun]

btw guys

when is new raid

?

which month approx

[spice spire]

Late February/march

[winged sun]

ty

gn gn

[lethal heart]

@spice spire

[spice spire]

Hello friend

[lethal heart]

i have embarasssing question to ask but

does that matter if i rpess this trinket before deathmark or after?

[subtle tundra]

you macro it

so you press at the same time

[lethal heart]

ye thats the smart approach

im not smart tho

[subtle tundra]

but i believe its 20 sec though?

[lethal heart]

ye it is

i should just do it you're right

[subtle tundra]

so it doesnt matter if its 1 sec before

[lethal heart]

[subtle tundra]

poe2 so good got sebek playing assa

[lethal heart]

real

[spice spire]

Nah it doesn’t. Likely would want before since it lasts longer than dm. But if that matters I’ll bark for chat

[static glacier]

woof

[spice spire]

[static glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/woof-woof-gif-15795375198049791824

[dawn heath]

i wouldn't really say rogue is high representation in title

[spice spire]

Higher % of rogue players get title than any other class was more the point

[dawn heath]

this is last weeks top 2000 runs so that would be title keys

[spice spire]

Because it’s a lower played class

That always has title players

Well it’s the lowest

[dawn heath]

we have the same play rate last week as ret paladin

[subtle tundra]

meta pretty good this season!

[dawn heath]

it's been worse

but its pretty bad

the good thing is that anything works with the strong 4 specs

if u can convince them to play with you

[subtle tundra]

even enha has an alternative

elemental

ik same class

[dawn heath]

if enhance wasnt played elemental would be played instead

that spec is broken af

[spice spire]

I didn’t say spec

[keen spruce]

chicken stonks are r ising

[dawn heath]

its almost as broken as enhance

[spice spire]

I said class

[subtle tundra]

i know

[keen spruce]

huge

[dawn heath]

aint no way ur gonna swap this deep into the season

[subtle tundra]

well i can easily get 635 if i quickly tell me GM i want to push on it

[runic hinge]

It’s the percentage of rogues not the percentage of title getters

[dawn heath]

season is practicall over

[subtle tundra]

oh i wont swap

but i want to play a range

[spice spire]

Man saw one too many conversations in here and said get me out

[subtle tundra]

and it was between boomerman and frostyboy

[dawn heath]

boomerman is a solid pick

[subtle tundra]

feral as a side chick aswell

[dawn heath]

i used to main feral in castle nathria

convoke & moonkin weaving as feral

those were the days

[subtle tundra]

guess im not leveling for 30 minutes...

[runic hinge]

Can’t wait for s2 !!!!

[dapper cradle]

surely they don't let the dungeon go live as is

[radiant raven]

Praying they change the latter half. Dreading they won't. But at least it'll be funny...?

[proven jasper]

Last boss will surely be so fun

[wet plover]

Is there a way to recraft weapon and remove embel?

[latent gazelle]

recraft with griftah's heavy-duty embellishing powder

[thorn thorn]

Ele very difficult to play

[gusty mirage]

[gusty mirage]

hey woah slow down a little, I got lost after the 2nd cast. So it is lightning bolt, lightning bolt, and then lightning bolt?

[thorn thorn]

[gusty mirage]

[thorn thorn]

But make sure you cast Lightning Bolt first

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-oprahs-bank-account-meme-laptop-gif-20803826

[thorn thorn]

Otherwise your Lightning Bolt wont do as much dam

[gusty mirage]

[midnight mist]

how does mist boss works

[grim jay]

mr lawyer, tell me, can I sue steam because it just yeeted half my games while I only uninstalled the client?

[midnight mist]

how long is the damage amp

and do you guys kinda pre cd

[gusty mirage]

no

read the terms of service

[midnight mist]

i think i dont get my last 2/3 ticks inside the damage amp

[grim jay]

who the fuck does that

[midnight mist]

but im not even sure i know how long the damage amp is

[gusty mirage]

people who want to sue big companies usually

or they pay me to read it for them

at $300/hr

take your pick

[thorn thorn]

Are you talking about the first boss

[midnight mist]

ye

[lethal heart]

[grim jay]

I'd pay more for 1h of your time

[thorn thorn]

Damage amp is like 8-12 seconds?

[gusty mirage]

[thorn thorn]

When you kill tree it does a channel on the actual boss and damage amps

[midnight mist]

there is a difference between 8 and 12 sec

[grim jay]

its 4s

[midnight mist]

ye about thta

is the boss amped only during the channel

[thorn thorn]

Its 15s according to wowhead

Amp is only while channel is active

There is a short time after tree is freed that it starts casting its channel

[gusty mirage]

ye from the initial stun to when he breaks free

[grim jay]

12s sounds about right

[thorn thorn]

I thought it was 12 but wowhead says 15

[grim jay]

no I mean the dmg amp

[thorn thorn]

Ya

Says the channel lasts for 15s

Feels more like 12s tho

[grim jay]

hu

[thorn thorn]

Maybe im just weirdge

[grim jay]

weird

[agile wedge]

so had my first night on queen and what i noticed is, i dont really know how to pull 2m cds in p2, as iam assigned to the portal, shortly after we enter second plattform, which is when my cds come up. on third plattform though add is dying super fast. any recommendations here?

[subtle tundra]

i dont use 2 min on platforms

only a kb

idk if that helps you

[agile wedge]

with our timing we go up and i directly need to go into the portal like before i even reach the mobs, i just cleave spiders and directly go to portal and enter with 2s left

would need to see if i can fit a kb afterwards

[uneven nymph]

what is the macro for envem and cold blood?

[grim jay]

noone knows

because noone plays coinclown

[agile wedge]

i do 😛

[uneven nymph]

wut?

[grim jay]

[jade abyss]

We all will be coinclowns with new tier set x)

Without choosing coinclown

[runic hinge]

Macro cold blood to kingsbane

[uneven nymph]

you sure?

not envenom?

[runic hinge]

Yes

Correct

[uneven nymph]

#showtooltip Envenom
/Cast coldblood
/cast Envenom

what do i change?

[runic hinge]

Change envenom to kingsbane so you cast cold blood every time you kb

[uneven nymph]

as in

#showtooltip Kingsbane
/Cast coldblood
/cast Kingsbane

?

[static glacier]

Ye

And remove it from envenom

[runic hinge]

Cold blood is 45 seconds kb is 1 minute but it takes a bit to use the cold blood charges

So it lines up pretty well

[uneven nymph]

its not like im spamming kb tho

so it works

[runic hinge]

Right

[uneven nymph]

weird

it didnt proc cb

just kingsbane

[balmy condor]

What’s the problem exactly

You should get your 2 stacks of the buff

[grim jay]

Dont remind me

[runic hinge]

Capitalize Cold and lower case the first /cast

Also idk if cold blood is 2 words and I’m mobile

[grim jay]

Hi mobile, im davyn

Its 2 words yes

[uneven nymph]

ty

moblie?

like wow on phone?!

[runic hinge]

No im just at work on discord cause my job is boring

[sick hazel]

Fellow rogues - if you have to run one HoJ vs. Blackhand breath as sword combat spec - which are u going w/?

[earnest remnant]

kinda like when @marble hemlock plays Assa its Mutilate, Mutilate into guess what? Another Mutilate

[marble hemlock]

hope both sides of your pillow are warm tonight

also that only happens when DN is up so 6 CP isnt enough

[earnest remnant]

make it 4 in a row

[runic hinge]

Mutilate on 6 gonna make me garrote myself irl

[dapper cradle]

Garroting yourself isn’t so bed

Auto-erotic garroting

[grim jay]

What the

[spice spire]

That classic question unfortunately were retail Andys! I’ve never checked #classic-discussion but I’d assume that the answer would be there!

[coral ibex]

i think you're lost, this is for retail

[dapper cradle]

I swear people on classic are having more fun than retail

[lyric crater]

not sure how hated the 40 mile walk around

[grim jay]

Doubt

[runic hinge]

I am having a lot of fun with retail tbh

[grim bronze]

So i was doing a key tonight, and was about to shroud, i have the Old Salt's Bardic Citrine gem active from legendary skipper, i stealth and my stealth breaks, cause that gem triggers my augs fate mirror. Have anyone else experienced that? or something like it

[bronze pike]

mr lawyer

i didnt see you since last year

[paper raptor]

How are you spreading dots. I tab target and move but feel like i am tagging same primary mob/mobs multiple times?

[runic hinge]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[paper raptor]

hmm so no secret strategy to getting all mobs hit! Thanks for posting this

[runic hinge]

You’re welcome I hope you have a great year

[tardy trench]

how get ring 652 anyone knnow

[tall jay]

Wait one more week

[nimble tartan]

if u want to get 652 now i know how but im sellin for 500k gold info

[tardy trench]

ppl already got 652 tho

[spice surge]

Faction change

[tardy trench]

rly lol

[spice surge]

Yes

Wouldnt recommend

[tardy trench]

yea im not doing that

[balmy condor]

ty we're back on race to world last queen today will be using my shiny new 700 ilvl ring

[uneven nymph]

got to 71

i have no realised

my talents are wrong

but i dont think itll effect me

so were staying with my build on assn

[fallow canopy]

no 1000+ ilvl? that seems reportable for trolling ngl

[balmy condor]

my applecheese sir

will do better next time

[spice surge]

YEPSK

[subtle tundra]

ayo i got the cool trinket

[balmy condor]

aren't you double 639

[subtle tundra]

i dont like brood egg

[balmy condor]

is that better than brood egg

[subtle tundra]

idk

but its around the same as 626 crystal i think

and thats what im wearing

[spice surge]

Why didnt you loot a heroic ritual knife first week from delves

[subtle tundra]

cause i got mythic skardyn in my first vault so it equaled out

[spice surge]

I see i see

[drifting vortex]

Does assassination ever get out of energy starvation?

[spice surge]

Not on singletarget no

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[drifting vortex]

Ty

[glass socket]

is shadowstep safe after wrest during intermission on Queen?

[static glacier]

yes, so long as you're a little bit out from the boss so you don't die

[glass socket]

or does stepping to her one shot you?

[static glacier]

before you can step

[spice surge]

Yes its safew

[static glacier]

after wrest is safe, before is death

[glass socket]

so you just press after the inertia of your pull or does the step cancel your loss of movement?

[spice surge]

Step cancels it

[glass socket]

alright cool, ty ty

[spice surge]

So as long as the grip has happened

You can step

[runic hinge]

Need that grip

[spice spire]

Amen

[viscid marsh]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[bronze pike]

its better tghan eggs for ret

[spice spire]

[timid grotto]

is double duskthread alot better than ascension+double effect

[runic hinge]

No. Embellishments are kinda whatever

[spice spire]

We’re also dawn not dusk users

[bronze pike]

[hasty gate]

arent u lucky cause i havent seen skardyn drop once

[runic hinge]

Just loot it!!!!!!

[cunning nexus]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[strange python]

in ansurek, we can cross the wave at 3rd phase with cloak if i have an essence?

[spice surge]

No

You shadowstep somebody

[static glacier]

if you do you need to call for like 2-4 externals and healing while the debuff is on you

[rancid wind]

Does envenom just get used whenever there's nothing else to press or do I actually ahve to pay attention to not overlapping?

[thorn thorn]

Envenom when Rupture or (2+ target) Crimson Tempest is active and/or not close to expiring

[timber sage]

Its not myth track but I finally got the damn thing to drop in a key >.>

[woven shore]

hold cooldowns

for pull in

on queen

?

with lust

@balmy condor

[limber lion]

He's streaming Queen atm

You can just go see what he does

[brazen sluice]

any1 got the KB stacks weakaura? 1-50 stacks

[woven shore]

for what you need that

[brazen sluice]

so u know how many stacks did u do inside ur kb

[woven shore]

uh then dk sorry

[balmy condor]

for which?

[balmy condor]

why would you need to know that

[woven shore]

shield

or before third jump up

for cd

[balmy condor]

shield for prog is generally safer

but damage should be high enough that it shouldn't matter

you're not getting an extra set of cds regardless

[woven shore]

okay

thanks

will hold for prog

[balmy condor]

I think I'm probably moving my dm off of the shield and just slamming on boss

we're very ahead of shield

but early on you should def hit the shield

[woven shore]

yea first prog today

def funnier than court

tx bro

[brazen sluice]

coz im struggling too much in st in m+ and with this weakaura ill be notified on how many stacks i did so i dont spend more evenoms

or am i understanding it wrong?

[woven shore]

that wouldnt help you improve that

[balmy condor]

what

[woven shore]

safe energy or tea

[thorn thorn]

[balmy condor]

you want to full slam envenoms during kb

[woven shore]

for that dmg window

[balmy condor]

why would you want to not envenom

you're during shiv

[brazen sluice]

so u evenoms inside kb even when u r at 50 stacks?

[runic hinge]

Yes

[woven shore]

ofc

[balmy condor]

yes of course

[brazen sluice]

man so many misinformations

[woven shore]

you always want env uptime

[balmy condor]

you want to be fully spamming away all your energy during shiv

that's your burst window

holding energy during shiv is dumb as shit

[brazen sluice]

outside of kb and dm do i try to keep evenom up and not spam it unless im in my cds correct?

[balmy condor]

yes

outside of cds you're playing for uptime since there's no windows to hit

[woven shore]

whisp whats best try

[brazen sluice]

kk good tysm

[woven shore]

int 3 ?

[balmy condor]

44.2% we're in p2

platform 2

[woven shore]

ok

crazy

2 so much harder?

[hexed root]

finally

[woven shore]

gz

!

any ring

[hexed root]

worst loot ever lol

[woven shore]

ofc

lol

and now time to afk

for 2 months

[hexed root]

tmog rolls

[woven shore]

XD

[brazen sluice]

if im spamming evenoms during shiv in st , when do i vanish then? also during the vanish window do i care about reapplying rapture if its not almost out? since garrot benifits from vanish but does rapture do?

[runic hinge]

No you don’t care about rupture

You vanish with 6 seconds left on kb for master assassin

[brazen sluice]

in that 6 secs window i apply 1 garrote then back to full sending evenoms correct?

[balmy condor]

yes

[brazen sluice]

kk got it ty guys

[woven shore]

cant wait for my first ce

my gooood

❤️

[brazen sluice]

Last question , according to sim the egg trinket sims highest for me , but idk if apl treat it as if u always get the maximum stacks 20-10 or its still bis even if u dont play around it?

[woven shore]

fuck that trinket lawl

if you wanna min max ofc

[hexed root]

uh oh

[balmy condor]

if you suck at playing the egg then it's like 0.7 or 0.8% worse

so whatever it sims at

knock like 1% off in worst case

[brazen sluice]

aha kk ty coz currently my dslice sims tellming me alchemist crafted trinket is bis after egg and sky

[balmy condor]

yeh alch trinket is fine

[hexed root]

could anyone help with a log review/dive by chance?

[winged sun]

No ofc not

If u pre cd it will expire mid amp

U can pool abit pre amp and make sure u have a full cp envenom before the amp and u reach full cp before the amp starts

Ofc bleeds already up and all

I have darkest night up for the amp usually

It’s probably useless to pre envenom

[subtle tundra]

Waking up cause a car exploded 10 meters from my house ☹️

Someone fucking put gasoline on it

[hexed root]

sheeeeesh

[subtle tundra]

I have camera outside

Just looked

[slate crown]

???????????????????????????????????? like intentionally?

[subtle tundra]

yes

at 7 am

he first walked a bit towards our own car, then changed his mind ☹️

[rotund oak]

u know thats criminal right?

[subtle tundra]

should we ask oxi?

maybe he knows

[rotund oak]

u dont have to,if someone does somethign to ur property thats damaging its criminal

what if u got cought in that fire

fukin unreal,find him and kick his ass

[slate crown]

Uh

if I saw someone ignite a vehicle outside my house

the last, absolute last thing I would want to do is go confront them

[runic hinge]

Same

[slate crown]

ok maybe second to last with last being jumping into the flaming car

[rotund oak]

thats because u aint the alpha

[runic hinge]

I also live in the woods so it would be crazy

[rotund oak]

ild wipe the floor with his face

[slate crown]

I bet

[rotund oak]

u should bet

[winged sun]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

wtf\

[rotund oak]

irrelevant question but do we know how much is the severed strands buff in nerub palace?like exact %

also hi 🙂

[balmy condor]

Uh

13 maybe

[strange python]

Whispyr I’m out of monster send help

[rotund oak]

i think its 2.25% per week

google does say how much is it but i hope there is a catchup system or something else ill be far behind the rest

[balmy condor]

Help sent (thoughts and prayers)

[balmy condor]

It’s every other week isn’t it

[rotund oak]

killed 3 bosses on lfr ive got 5% buff currently,repeated twice

idk

im confused with the math

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Hello! The Severed Strands buff tooltip showing 0% is a visual bug only and will be fixed in the 20th Anniversary Celebration update. The 2.25% damage and healing bonus from the buff is working as intended.

this is from the blizzard forums

[wet apex]

How about we remove flightstones and make crests account bound? This would give people who don’t necessarily enjoy pushing a good reason to still play their main if they decide to that day. It would also somewhat alleviate the problem of having alts take too long to gear.

Tell me everyone, what do you think of this idea?

[marble hemlock]

it rounds to the next/lowest full number

but its 2.25% per turn-in, and obviously you can catch up to the current maximum (13.5%)

[rotund oak]

cool cool thx

[dawn seal]

[dawn seal]

I DID PURPLE PARSES YESTERDAY

[balmy condor]

Banger

[dawn seal]

I amma cook on mythic tonite

[polar rampart]

random question, why does a loading screen come up if i shadowstep a garrison mob?

[sharp viper]

small indie company

probably some phasing issue

and/or bug

[signal burrow]

Hey all, newbie to the game and the spec here, just need a confirmation for something in the wowhead guide. I understand it's not the end of the world if you can't re-stealth between packs in M+, but what exactly should I do then ? the guide seems to say I should apply bleeds to 2 targets and go into the CD window anyway, is that correct ?

[rotund oak]

need to rewatch ur vods now for the first 5

doubt i can do 95s but ill try

would be cool to upload them kills as part of a series

[balmy condor]

There is old bugs where training dummies with a higher elevation means you can bug through the floor

[grim bronze]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[manic sphinx]

Finally! After 37 GB runs, finally got Skardyn's 😒

[balmy condor]

lucky

[manic sphinx]

I assume I can just macro it to Deathmark?

[balmy condor]

yes

[manic sphinx]

thx! lol, well with noone really paying much attention and s2 around the corner, guess it doesnt mean much

still can't get into any 12s, hah

[balmy condor]

yeah, that's the m+ pugging experience

[manic sphinx]

Yea

[balmy condor]

game mode is unplayable for 99% of players

[sharp viper]

37 Gigabyte sounds like an odd number but congratulations

[manic sphinx]

Thanks! Least we aint into the Terrabyte range

[golden loom]

blizz just needs to remove mythic raid lockouts and add soloq m+ and game will be crazy

[radiant raven]

Hell yeah

[sharp viper]

solo m+ sounds both fun and very toxic

[jaunty sky]

i really dont see how solo queue m+ is gonna make things better

[radiant raven]

I think it could work, but it would need to be done with a lot of care and thought. And most likely only up to +11 or +12. It's a system that'd need to be done properly.

[jaunty sky]

ppl will just leave and send everyone back to queue

[balmy condor]

isn't party finder basically just soloq m+

[jaunty sky]

that's what i'm sayin

[balmy condor]

yeh

like instead of party finder soloq

you just remove the ability to invite people

and then people will hover the people they got matched with

[radiant raven]

It'd let you just queue and do something else instead of constantly applying though. Which I think is a key difference.

[balmy condor]

and see 2500 io

and say kys

and then leave

[sharp viper]

yup

[balmy condor]

it's the same process but now parties will just disband if they deem a member to be a shitter

[jaunty sky]

surely randomly generated groups will solve the problem of creating a game mode with a big focus on individual responsibilities

[balmy condor]

tank 100 io lower than the rest of the group

whelp gg guys go next

everyone back into queue

like it just ain't feasible idk

[jaunty sky]

got a non top 10 meta spec? gg back to queue

[sharp viper]

top 10 seems a bit generous in that statement

[balmy condor]

I mean people are already declining non-prot pal and non-aug from keys

you can just open party finder right now

and see "need aug"

"need lust"

[radiant raven]

I think it is, but you'd need to structure it properly. Only able to queue into a +10 if you've timed a +9. Focusing on the weekly key aspect, not the pushing aspect. But a lot of these are things that'd take thought and good design approaches and I don't see blizz doing that. Nor does it completely solve the social perspective issues you guys are talking about.

[balmy condor]

the core issue is that the m+ community has painted themselves into a corner on what a group means

[jaunty sky]

it's currently close to impossible anyways to get into a key level you havent timed

[balmy condor]

anything that is not deemed to be in the realm of meta is just instantly thrown away

[radiant raven]

Yeah, pretty much.

[golden loom]

I mean if you would be matched in your io range and they made punishments for leaving harsh, just make the players figure it out

[radiant raven]

I still get people in +8's sometimes going "wow a sub rogue, play ass please" and like lmao it doesn't matter!!!

[golden loom]

idk league does it 😎

[balmy condor]

league does it cause that's what they started with

[radiant raven]

Yeah, something like that. I totally think it's possible, but I don't know if Blizz is up to really designing a system to make it be possible.

[jaunty sky]

i think we just gotta recognize that in our own unwillingness to risk key depletion we kinda brought this upon ourselves

[balmy condor]

there's is a fundamental difference between league queue and m+ queue

first off it's pvp

[radiant raven]

Remove depletion imo

[balmy condor]

second off, m+ party finder has the disposition of being able to invite off of applicants

[jaunty sky]

i think their idea of putting 'key depletion stops' starting with 12s next season is a nice idea

[balmy condor]

like imagine if you just opened your league party to anyone on earth to apply to and you invited based on top rank

that's wild

[radiant raven]

Yeah I wanna see how it works out.

[golden loom]

yeah if that was the case it would look like current M+

[jaunty sky]

maybe throw em in at every crest level too, so no depletion under 3 and 8 as well

[radiant raven]

Ye

[jaunty sky]

once you've timed all keys on that level

[golden loom]

idk a que system is ofc not the perfect fix but something surely has to be done

[balmy condor]

and that open application process is why m+ is so brainrotted in the first place, but now that it exists you can't just rip it back out

[radiant raven]

Making it easier to do weekly content and push content is a good approach. I hope they expand it 'cos it's an interesting idea that i wanna see how it goes.

[jaunty sky]

doesn't solve high key problems obviously but i also havent done anything higher than 11 so idk what to do about that

[rare jackal]

thats unironically how amateur scene recruiting works lmao

[balmy condor]

yeah and it's a fucking shit show

[radiant raven]

same but 10

I just want weekly keys to be better because I hate the 45+ minutes to get into a key shit

Which, I know a queue won't remotely solve BUT I could just queue and do something else.

[jaunty sky]

for that you just gotta find some friends

be social and all that

[balmy condor]

yeh, for weekly keys it's just a guild angle

[radiant raven]

I typically bother some of the tanks I know, but sometimes I just wanna pug.

[balmy condor]

that's diabolical

wanting to pug

willingly

[radiant raven]

I love pugging.

[jaunty sky]

then pug your own keys

[rare jackal]

play mmo RPG based on group content
only pug and never talk to anyone
i will never understand this

[golden loom]

you can pug and talk to people

thats the beauty of it

[rare jackal]

a large amount of players seem to want a single player like experience from wow

[radiant raven]

I run my own Heroic raid pugs every week, host my own keys. It's great, it's fun. But sometimes my key is a cursed +10 and I wanna just turn brain off and do my 900th DB+10

[balmy condor]

I tried to do that once and I said hi and they replied "are you the guide writer" and I said yeah and they told me my io is shit and I don't know shit and kicked me

[radiant raven]

lmao, geez.

I got called a nazi on Wednesday because I kicked someone for repeatedly wiping my raid.

[sharp viper]

should have just dropped writing guides on the spot

and apologized

[final dawn]

Why can we not have pugging like now and soloQ for the people that do not get into keys?

[rare jackal]

most social wow player

[final dawn]

Having both options would be fine

[golden loom]

I love soloq stuff even if it might be brainrotted a majority of the time, having been a league player for 12 years, I just love being able to que whenever I feel like without having to organize with friends (who also sadly are worse at the game so I can't do actually challenging content with them) so idk maybe I am doomed

[balmy condor]

dropped to my knees and begged them no please I need this +10 for vault you can't do this to me please please please you don't understand, I have a wife at home don't do it to me I beg you

[radiant raven]

I still think it's worth them trying a solo queue, but ye. I wanna see how it goes.

[rare jackal]

yeah for league soloq works great, was my preferred game mode too

but wow is literally built on the foundation of grouping up, the idea to not engage in social circles seems wild to me

[radiant raven]

It'd also be nice to change your key to something else without having to time the same or higher key level, too.

Sometimes I get a Stonevault+10 on reset and lmao I don't want to run that.

[balmy condor]

I don't understand why we need a key at all

[golden loom]

because also if you make a group you kinda have to comitt to playing for hours I feel like, I just wanna que a game, then take a 20min break, que again etc

[radiant raven]

100% agreed. Just let us run the content

[balmy condor]

why can't we just walk up to the stone and start a key for that dungeon

delves can do it

technology exists

[jaunty sky]

I'd like a system where you just 'level up' your dungeons

[rare jackal]

you can do a single key with your friends no? 🤔

[radiant raven]

I really liked Zac's suggestion of how M+ should work. No keys, just running content and if you time it, you can run it +1 higher.

[jaunty sky]

do a 2, you can do up to a 3 or 4 now depending on how quickly you did it

[balmy condor]

yeah so just greater rifts from d3, or delves

[radiant raven]

yeah absolutely

[jaunty sky]

or just remove the +2 stuff

[golden loom]

irl friends that started retail are leveling to 80 atm, so maybe in the future

[rare jackal]

nice

[radiant raven]

hell yeah

[final dawn]

Because Qing in lfg is serving that?

[golden loom]

but also, I would say the group finder is far from social

like any classic wow dungeon experience is 100x more social if its with pugs

[final dawn]

That is the point

[golden loom]

than whatever signing up for a +12 is

[jaunty sky]

cause the game is piss easy

[rare jackal]

i disagree
pugging is "join, never talk (except to flame people), leave"

[final dawn]

Retail is so damn anti social. People leave after 1 wipe

[golden loom]

yeah, so it doesnt need to be social for it to be hard, so make it a que system 😎

[balmy condor]

when I pugged my own keys, I used to put "send me a funny joke" or something into the description, and then one dude just sent me the n word with nothing else and I stopped doing that

[jaunty sky]

is it still the same with the new crest amounts on depletion?

[balmy condor]

m+ players are not human

[radiant raven]

I think the way people act online has changed a lot. People are a lot more aggro, a lot more hostile. But it's what you put in, really. If you join a group and are chatty, people tend to be chatty, etc. But some people do just wanna join, do content, leave. Having options for everyone is good.

[final dawn]

In the keys i play, yes. But also said this related to pug raids

[rare jackal]

right, im not advocating for the removal of options
i just have a hard time understanding people subjecting themselves to an objectively worse experience

[radiant raven]

Yeah I think that's fair

[jaunty sky]

the raids are an easy fix, just make it the mythic lockout system 🙂

[rare jackal]

also people were just as unhinged back in the day
in the 2010s it was way more socially acceptable to say the n and f slur openly in games

[radiant raven]

truth

[golden loom]

okay the real question, if they made it a que system where if you failed the timer you would lose IO, and harsh punishments for "rage quits", doesnt that sound like heaven

[radiant raven]

ye that'd suck a lot

I don't think punishments for failure are at all a good approach to M+

[rare jackal]

sounds like a sidegrade

[golden loom]

but imagine how hard people would try

[radiant raven]

The crest change recently was great 'cos it's made non-timing a lot less punishing for weekly content.

[rare jackal]

good matchmaking is really hard to do, id rather them not try

[final dawn]

No. Just add soloQ and keep it as it is (maybe remove key system)

[radiant raven]

I'd like to see them try but I completely agree with you haha

[rare jackal]

hot take: make pugging even WORSE so people are forced to find guilds and make friends

[radiant raven]

What if all your friends are really bad at the game

[final dawn]

Can pugging be even worse?

[radiant raven]

Yes

Absolutely, no question.

[final dawn]

I mean people are pushing 20s and i cant ger into 14 because i do not have 3200 rio and 650 gs

Community in m+ is just not flexible

[golden loom]

yeah its sad compared to raid pugging which slaps

[radiant raven]

I think pugging into push keys is a pretty different beast to weeklies and I don't have experince or good ideas for solving that side of it.

[golden loom]

REMOVE MYTHIC LOCKOUT

[radiant raven]

100%

[jaunty sky]

actually, if you remove the key system you could then think about a queue system for dungeon levels

[golden loom]

like I dont even care about loot I just wanna go hit bosses over and over

[final dawn]

I would rathern run 10 keys in a soloQ not timing them because of fucked up comp than to not run any key because of no invites

[jaunty sky]

cause no shot the group finder will be better if EVERYONE can make groups

[radiant raven]

Ye. Also you'd have people just rekilling bosses to help people.

[jaunty sky]

cause everyone will have 'a key' for that dungeon level

[radiant raven]

I've done that on Heroic where I'll just run a few Heroic pugs because I like doing the content. You'd see it on Mythic too.

[golden loom]

yeah I just join random heroic runs multiple times on different chars to try and parse

would gladly do that in mythic also

[radiant raven]

Ye, it'd be a lot of fun. Also just practice and testing and.. Let people play the content. It's fun!

Slap the 'ol Heroic lootlock on Mythic and call it a day

[golden loom]

but its crazy how easy it is for my shitty alts to get into raids just cause I have main raid progression linked to it

[jaunty sky]

i had this discussion with guildies too and we came to the conclusion that they want the added organisational difficulty for mythic content where you HAVE to get 20 people to show up at the same time on the same classes and roles

[final dawn]

My 614 dk does not get invites to hc raids

😄

[rare jackal]

nay

remove mythic loot from m+ vault

[golden loom]

like should it take 40min to get into a weekly 10 at 639 ilvl 2500 io when all I care about is the vault slot

[final dawn]

And to keys also no invite

[radiant raven]

Just keep applying. Some raid leads are weirdos about iLevel, some are doing it for a free ride and some are purposefully doing parse groups.

[rare jackal]

you can
the chinese are killing ansurek 10 times in a day on 10 different chars

[golden loom]

[final dawn]

Yeah no other options but it takes ages to get into a grp that disbands at bloodbound bc tanks cant taunt

It is such a shitty system

[golden loom]

just gotta make a name like that

[radiant raven]

I absolutely invite people based on their names

iLevel 600 guy but his name is "Bigmuscleduck" or something? slamming the invite button

[jaunty sky]

i just skip bloodbound whenever i try to pug hc

court hc is easier than bloodbound

and gives gilded crests

[golden loom]

the things you see in low lvl heroic bloodhound groups

[final dawn]

Well if u go for full run you need to kill bloodbound

[jaunty sky]

that's why i dont run pugs myself

i just dip after the inevitable first wipe to beams on bloodbound and queue for sikran

[golden loom]

cant wait to get off work in a few hours, gotta pug some 99s

[radiant raven]

Hell yeah

[golden loom]

I love joining court/queen groups where 10 casters leave after court

and run dies

gotta kill 2 courts for every 1 queen

[radiant raven]

I hate Queen as a pug lead 'cos people drop every single wipe, even if it was a 'good' wipe.

Which means having to reassign stuff constantly.

[golden loom]

dont wanna flex too many logs but I do any one of the most impressive 100 parces...

[dense badger]

In LFR

[radiant raven]

Hell yeah LFR parses

LFR parsing is hardmode because it's pure randomness and the kill time could be six thouand years because half the raid is afk

[golden loom]

LFR is legit harder than heroic, like why was this queen kill so long

5:22 is craaaazy

[rotund oak]

in lfr u can legit stand in one place or just into mechanics and tank everything with 1 feint

wouldnt say its harder

[balmy condor]

it is when you take into consideration the skill of an average lfr player

[rare jackal]

something something large fish small pond

[rotund oak]

wanna deliver my 95s to daddy whispyr

testify the guide works

[golden loom]

looking through that lfr ansurek log I might've found the most crazy sin rogue rotation ever done

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HpgXKJBFVLrCq4vd?fight=32&type=casts&source=325&view=timeline

okay nevermind there was even a crazier one in the same run https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HpgXKJBFVLrCq4vd?fight=last&type=casts&source=318&view=timeline

[radiant raven]

I want one where they just use the knife throw and nothing else

ranged rogue, let's go

[golden loom]

deathmark and kingsbane?
poisoned knife ✅

[balmy condor]

when people ask why my guide is so long and goes over so many basics

this is why

[golden loom]

its a beauty

[balmy condor]

how am I supposed to explain pooling to someone who slams 11 poisoned knifes in a row

wow whispy an hour and a half video about m+ holy yap

yeah

you see what I'm dealing wiht?

[golden loom]

tbh that guy probably has 100x more fun pressing poisoned knife than anyone pressing sign up in M+ LFG

[balmy condor]

oh for sure

that guy feels like john wick

[dawn seal]

I had a dh 623

[rare jackal]

lmao, unironically that china shop scene from the third movie

[dawn seal]

Do holy pala damage on queen

Consistently

300k

No less no more

[golden loom]

like this LFR run was with an irl friend that just hit 80 and wanted to tank, he hit lvl 60 on classic HC but quit right after never doing any dungeons, and he said that after this LFR run he had felt nothing like it and his pulse was 200

[dawn seal]

[golden loom]

love to see it

[dawn seal]

OH

BOYX

U ARE ON MY FRIEND LIST

U are uwucutegirl

Right

[golden loom]

yee 😄

[dawn seal]

I am Alysa

[balmy condor]

I thought you were bora

[dawn seal]

That's my bnet

Whispyr

I name change after my pet dogo died

[radiant raven]

I love this. This person is a gem.

[golden loom]

I made the name on hc thinking I would die at lvl 10 but somehow it became my go to wow name

[dawn seal]

LMAO

[dawn seal]

U are from Argent Dawn as well

Right

[radiant raven]

Yep 🙂

[balmy condor]

a real slab of aluminum foil in the rough

[dawn seal]

Wait

Are we suppose to use posing knife

[balmy condor]

fuck no

[dawn seal]

I watch all ur videos but I missed it

Oh

Okay nvm

[balmy condor]

it's not even on my bars

[dawn seal]

[golden loom]

the guy throwing 11 knives has access to whispyrs patreon exclusive guide

[dawn seal]

That's +1000 aura

Oh what's that

Whispyr

🤔

[balmy condor]

its my onlyfans

feet pics only

[golden loom]

not a single good name in sight

[dawn seal]

Ooo

Not interested

[grim jay]

did someone say feetpics

[dawn seal]

Have u guys seen a

[balmy condor]

super premium ++ subscribers get sent toenail clippings with extra schmalz

[grim jay]

bruh

as if there are people with Schmalz

at their toenails

[balmy condor]

you gotta let it crust

[dawn seal]

620 dh do consistent 300k dps through out on all queen up to kill

🤔

[radiant raven]

Maybe they're scared of spiders

[dawn seal]

my logs are terrible but don't u do bazillion when u accidently hit eye beam

[grim jay]

idk when I've been as disgusted the last time

[balmy condor]

weakling

[grim jay]

oh I am

with that stuff