assassination

[novel star]

now show it on a panda or a vulp

[balmy condor]

Set looks horrible idk

[novel star]

outlaws eating i think

but yea

[runic hinge]

S2 is surely an outlaw season and the fotms will migrate back to there

Based on the gambling tier set and the pistol in belt on mog

[pure moth]

Outlaw can stay in is own corner

[severe sparrow]

i like pirates and outlaw but still that's... what are those shoulders and that helm

some davy jones locker shit

are we back in bfa?

[tidal laurel]

@static glacier @pure moth @spice spire thank you for your help guys. I had to step away for a bit. But I will try my best to put all of the info you have provided in practice.

[spice spire]

No worries homie good luck

[pure moth]

Yw!

[tidal laurel]

But I'm trying to come out of that corner... Lol

[spice spire]

Just do your best homie

That’s all we can ever do

[slate crown]

Np

[pure moth]

We (i) don't like outlaw here. Lol 😂

[spice spire]

Np

[spice spire]

I don’t either

But i hate the spec not the player

[pure moth]

Truth

[balmy condor]

Wrong

I am a generational hater

[coral ibex]

hate the player not the game brah

[balmy condor]

I hate both

[coral ibex]

its a big river, can't hate the flow

nahmean

[balmy condor]

I thought blizzard ruined the flow

[runic hinge]

That’s not what I heard you say about @ember mural

[ember mural]

[bronze pike]

pirate set

outlaw wins after 4 tiers of sin and sub theme sets

[desert wren]

hmm

[spice spire]

Yeah hate on this pal

[spice spire]

Yeah but that’s because he’s a bitch

[balmy condor]

What are we hmming

[jaunty sky]

It's 645 and he's got 3 more upgrade thingies

[balmy condor]

Yeah

And?

Bug abuse gg

[subtle tundra]

Hampy new year

[runic hinge]

Drunk yet?

[fleet whale]

why are people dooming

[spice spire]

?

[subtle tundra]

First new year since 2016 I'm not drunk

👽

[ember mural]

Bruh wtf

[spice spire]

[ember mural]

[balmy condor]

11.0.7 sucks huge cock and a lot of the cantrips and tier for 11.1 that have been revealed are super shit

[tardy trench]

how upg this stupid ring this week

[runic hinge]

Hell yeah

[fallow canopy]

Do the % weekly invasion quest and the upgrade quest will be available after

[tardy trench]

ty

[dense badger]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[sage dagger]

I'm compeltely new. I've seeun multiple guides recommending to open with slightly different rotations, but with two Garrotes in a row. Why would you ever apply two Garrotes in a row? Shouldn't you just wait until the Garrote bleed expires (or is right about to expire) before reapplying it?

[runic hinge]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[balmy condor]

you're looking at an aoe opener

[runic hinge]

Read your talents

[sage dagger]

Okay, so I guess it only makes sense if there are at least 4 mobs

[balmy condor]

yes

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/idc-ratio-didnt-ask-cry-about-it-stay-mad-gif-13756437846027037034

[runic hinge]

Damn. Quake btfo

[dapper cradle]

Ye I was seriously expecting the cantrips to be giga omega

But they seem ass

And I’m expecting them to be the very rare raid items?

Did they even release loot for the new dungeon yet?

[oak musk]

is it imperative that I always use rupture with full combo points? Or are we mostly using rupture for its synergies with other talents?

[balmy condor]

all finishers with 5 cp

[oak musk]

okie

[spice spire]

Mf tryna beat me the fuck off fr

[raven egret]

aight I beat the game can I get a break

[subtle tundra]

Hmm I heard earlier something about some situations

[dawn heath]

guys

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/213770519076405248/1323798204709343232/image.png?ex=6775d2a6&is=67748126&hm=a8daad550135b0d212735ba998a4ba84583803c36a152793c2362d6b98fbbad7& who are you kissing for your mistletoes

[spice spire]

@gusty mirage but he keeps playing

[versed mica]

Ur mom

[dawn heath]

such a handsome dwarf should def hit her up

[subtle tundra]

The gun

[keen spruce]

if you don't kiss the homie

you're not gettin the toe

[dawn heath]

true

[keen spruce]

I have a 100% success rate gettin toe from the homie

[runic hinge]

[keen spruce]

[sharp oxide]

<

[grim jay]

I feel betrayed

happy new year guys n girls

[woven shore]

Happy new year Bitches

[dawn heath]

i found out getting buffed by mistletoe breaks your stealth

https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/joKCPxcLVJykX_ooJ?invite=cr-MSxuNmIsMTcyMzI0NTA1LA

so if u wanna grief your fellow rogues in your raid u know what to do

buff them just before the pull

[tame dome]

to anyone who has beast zekvir 2 what was your build?

[runic hinge]

Single target build with spatter and the class tree I dropped supercharger for double vanish to get rid of the poison

Wait a second on each poison to see if brann dispels if not cloak or use a vanish. He should dispel you every third one so you’ll have an extra vanish charge just in case

[tame dome]

awesome ty

[runic hinge]

I saved kb for most eggs except when I got him to 50% or whenever p2 is I had dm for it and used drums then

Tried to time it so I could phase him right after I killed an egg

[crude helm]

I chose to use outlaw for it since killing spree removes the poison, but i had issues using vanish bc it would reset the boss

[runic hinge]

Yeah and you lose aggro to brann who can get feared out the entrance or when he does the aoe it’s the whole room cause of where he’s facing

Felt pretty rng

I did it in like 16 tries I wanna say and some he just 2 shot me with autos

[tame dome]

yeah the 2 auto sucks everytime im sitting at 629 and brann is 46 but I get my ass kicked everytime

[runic hinge]

Just keep the potions running and pray for good rng

[tame dome]

@runic hinge what would you is better for the hero talent DS or FB? for it

[humble verge]

holy

i came buckets rn

literally

timed 15 gb right before servers went offline

[runic hinge]

Tbh I only tried it with DS

[cyan karma]

Just got myth stitchfletch dagger… why isn’t it bis being crit/mastery? I’ve actually never seen it drop before

[balmy condor]

because that's not how stats work

and crit/mastery happens to not be better with all the other pieces taken into account

[cyan karma]

I see, ty 🙂

[pliant remnant]

But it is BIS on Fuu's sheet, no?

[balmy condor]

it's bis on something somewhere

[pliant remnant]

Yamete

How'm I meant to know what to equip like this

'boutta disenchant all my weapons 'cause I don't have a myth regicide

brb

[balmy condor]

People be giving so much of a shit about the differences in items when sims aren’t accurate enough to know a difference over tens of thousands of pulls

Actually insane

[pliant remnant]

[cyan karma]

“If your not BIS, your WIS” - Ricky bobby

[pliant remnant]

I want you to say "crepes are BIS"

[balmy condor]

what if we took like the top 40 bis lists

and we paired the bis lists into a double elimination bracket

and then whichever bis list ended up being higher in the margin of error in its head to head matchup would move on

[spice spire]

What if we kissed under the top 8 bis list bracket

[balmy condor]

what if we tongue punched each others fart boxes under the raidbots march madness tournament parlay

[spice spire]

God damn that’s hot

You get me

[rotund oak]

Happy new year chat

only Ws for everyone

[fallow canopy]

Happy new year, hopefully 2025 is full of stat weights question and data aggregation websites and bis lists

[spice spire]

Going to eat ur ass boli

Until it’s the consistency of a cat’s tongue

[rotund oak]

too much wine i think

im not like smashed but definitely seen better days

[fallow canopy]

Threat or promise?

[spice spire]

Yes

[spice spire]

Drink some water king

Take it easy today

[rotund oak]

already started half an hour ago,the hordes of relatives playing poker still

[spice spire]

Poker?

Buddy I hardly know er!

[rotund oak]

ive won like 60euro,gave it to the kids

whatever

[fallow canopy]

Damn this guy gonna parse 100 on 11.1

[rotund oak]

if i wanted to parse hihg ild try fam,im too old to be competitive or be bothered to 😄

ild settle with 95s

[spice spire]

Mf understands gambling fr

[fallow canopy]

Frfr no cap

[brave comet]

what enchants do you guys prefer on the rings?

radiant mastery or radiant crit

[coral ibex]

the one that sims higher

[brave comet]

what does it mean to pandemic rupture?

[royal lantern]

never stop?

[spice spire]

Amen

[spice spire]

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[thorn fjord]

Happy new year from the east coast guys

[runic hinge]

happy new year big dawg

[thorn fjord]

Care about a lot of you in here… be safe tonight!!

[coral ibex]

happy new year gamers

[spice spire]

Happy new years east coast homies you all be safe

[hollow river]

happy new years

[vivid mulch]

i tried simming, with dead-eye spyglass 639 on. Does this mean its a bit better than a 639 sac?

[pliant remnant]

Happy new year from the far east coast (aka EU) (still no Myth track Skardyn's in vault)

[pliant remnant]

Spyglass is good

I have both Myth Sac and Spyglass and Spyglass sims better for me even in ST

[vivid mulch]

better than sacbrood?

I just tried on dummy, and it only showed up once at the start?

I thought it would keep going

[vast patio]

good, I don't need to raid this tier kek

[balmy condor]

Yes, 2500 dps better, so barely outside of margin of error

[spice spire]

Happy new year from the real time some

[vivid mulch]

The thing is, it doesn't keep going tho

[balmy condor]

Wdym it doesn’t keep going

[vivid mulch]

I tried 3 times now on the 5 dummies in dornogal, at the start it procs at the 10 stacks, after that no more.

[balmy condor]

It’s 1 proc per minute

[vivid mulch]

Is that just cos its dummies

[balmy condor]

So

[vivid mulch]

ohhh

[balmy condor]

Yeah?

[vivid mulch]

well doesn't say that anywhere

how am i supposed to know?

[balmy condor]

I mean not every effect in the game is 100% uptime

[vivid mulch]

Yeah nah

Just like sacbrood

feels so underwhelming with sac

[balmy condor]

I feel like you’re overthinking this quite a bit

[vivid mulch]

But hey, great if spyglass is a bit better. only good thing i got from vault so :)

Yeah i might be

But with the procs, do you just have to get real lucky for it to continue with the 10 stacks at 10 sec?

Or is it just normal it goes down after like a couple of sec

[balmy condor]

You proc the spyglass, it marks a target for 10 seconds

As you hit that target, you stack the crit buff

The crit buff lasts 10 seconds

So if you hit the target with the mark having 0.2 seconds left, you get a refresh on the 10 second crit buff

[vivid mulch]

Yeah and you can get lucky and keep doing that or?

If you understand what im asking

[balmy condor]

Well I mean it procs once a minute so not normally no

[vivid mulch]

Yeye that i get but, lets say the target has 300 mil, and your dead ahead debuff just procced on them 10 stacks 10 sec left, can you keep having the debuff on them for a long time if you get lucky with the hits, or will it just go down eventually

[balmy condor]

The debuff is 10 seconds

[vivid mulch]

ok so after you got the 10 stacks, the 10 secs just goes down and poof no more dead ahead

[balmy condor]

Yes

[vivid mulch]

ok that way

[balmy condor]

Well no, you can refresh it obviously

[vivid mulch]

Now i see

[balmy condor]

But without the debuff

You can’t refresh of course

[vivid mulch]

Nah that i get

it has 1 min cd

[balmy condor]

Yeah

But there’s no weird rng thing on the stacking

You basically stack it instantly

[vivid mulch]

Yeah

Imma have to check it out :)

But ty anyway

[bronze plover]

morning is there any siren isle ring upgrade for this week? because I dont see any quest for upgrading in the island

[spice spire]

Have to do the weekly first this week

[umbral cypress]

same

i think its gonna randommly drop from rares

gonna try rn

[umbral cypress]

wait what weekly

all the blue quests?

[runic hinge]

fill the bar to go in the storm

[blazing pumice]

completing the blue quests is the easiest way to do it yes

[frail dust]

ive gotten 2 citrines aside from the quest just by killing the guys in the caves while i fight lfg boss

[trim storm]

mythic skardyns or set piece from vault ? what i should i take ? propably skardyns no ?

trinkets harder to get

[runic hinge]

definitely the trinket

[trim storm]

okie dokie

[lofty forum]

this is from Nexus Princess Heroic from earlier, what am i doing wrong? (im 10th)

[balmy condor]

kind of impossible to know without seeing a log

[lofty forum]

it feels like i suck at Rogue and im 618 iLvl

the guy in 5th was the leader and hes a streamer

hes off of Doomhammer

[runic hinge]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[lofty forum]

danke @runic hinge

[rotund oak]

5th time sacbrood on my vault man

[runic hinge]

trinket makes you ugly, un-useable

[rotund oak]

i took it

wanna ascend gilded crests

already 637

im one craft away

stupid@ss game never gives me skadryns,never gives me wpn,never gives me crystal

[crude helm]

so i stepped into the class hall for the first time

kinda wish it was still used at some capacity still, this place is cool

[blazing pumice]

that would require blizzard to hire staff to put work into the game

they've been doing skeleton crew since df

[runic terrace]

Class hall from Legion? Oh yeah, that was nice

[jade abyss]

the upgrade item dropps this week? or is there a quest for it?

[runic hinge]

You have to fill the bar and go into the storm section for it this week

[balmy condor]

I will save you tony

https://www.wowhead.com/news/how-to-get-week-3-upgrade-of-cyrces-circlet-now-also-available-on-eu-357655?utm_source=discord-webhook

[jade abyss]

Ich küsse eure Herzen x)

[hoary remnant]

You can double Dib on eu servers if you did it yesterday

[balmy condor]

what a patch

[runic hinge]

Beautiful patch. Some might say a patch of all time.

[jade abyss]

praise the patch !

[runic hinge]

I’m having fun tbh. I’m 3 rares from finishing the island meta achievement

[jade abyss]

what is the reward?

[runic hinge]

A boat

[jade abyss]

no jar of dirt ): ?

https://tenor.com/view/ive-got-me-a-jar-of-dirt-pirates-of-the-caribbean-jack-sparrow-guess-whats-inside-it-gif-16566321

[sharp viper]

happy new year, you stabbin cuties

[heady elbow]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[frosty bridge]

fuck yes

blessed 2025 vault

[keen spruce]

Happy new years amigos

[sharp viper]

heroic transmitter outsims the transmitter for me now with the ring upgrades

[subtle tundra]

Surely they come back from holiday and hot fix everyone who abused

[keen spruce]

Transmitter outsims the transmitter?

[balmy condor]

you heard the man

[sharp viper]

transmitter outsims skardyns*

words are hard man

[jade abyss]

skardyns is my only item under 636 :<

[sharp viper]

skardyns on use is hitting the -20% stat dr range

[wet glacier]

@sharp viper Transmitter outsims skardyns 2 weeks now for me . The same with Ovinax's egg outsims all of my trinkets. My best combo in Sim is always transmitter and Ovinax egg

[balmy condor]

that's fairly normal

[subtle tundra]

I'm pretty sure transmittrr has outsimmed skardyn the whole patch

[balmy condor]

they've been around equal

depends on the character

but like the good old !stats command says, having more of a stat diminishing its value in comparison to other stats

and 11.0.7 ring gives a ton of mast

[sharp viper]

early on skardyns outsimmed transmitter for my rogue by a small margin

[balmy condor]

which means mast on use worse comparatively

means transmitter value go up

means transmitter better

[subtle tundra]

Transmitter also gets an additional use sometimes based on kill timer

[balmy condor]

very normal things

[sharp viper]

I sure as hell will probably not use it in raid though, transmitter is unnecessarily annoying to use, i'm juzst gonna get myself killed

[subtle tundra]

I use it on monk and its fine

But I used it on sub and I fucked my ass

So uh

[sharp viper]

i tried transmitter as sub on last court progress and don't want to use it anymore if I have to learn the fight itself first

[keen spruce]

i just housed $35 of taco bell to ring in the new year

I think i'm gonna die

[subtle tundra]

😼

Caca bell

[sharp viper]

please don't, I need you to keep pedro'ing with me

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-rave-dance-gif-15389662957248741331

[keen spruce]

[digital venture]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[tall jay]

So, I’m getting to the point where I’m really digging m+ and trying to move in up past the “pug” 10 scene etc.

Is there any good weak auras for marking interrupts etc I see a bunch of them out there but they all seem very complicated to set up etc?

Anyone have any good sets?

[humble verge]

fak

ive gotten crystal and now spyglass

in vault

still no skardyn

zzz

[golden loom]

Overclocked gear-a-rang might not have been the trinket I wanted from vault but atleast I got harbringer of the gilded now 😎

[median scroll]

hey guys, returning rogue after skipping DF. With crafted gear, if i craft 636 now, when season 2 comes can you recraft to higher ilvl and carry on using through out the expansion or would 636 be the max and item no good after season 1 ends?

[spice surge]

You can recraft it at upto 675 next season

[median scroll]

ok tyvm

[frosty bridge]

did anybody encounter the bug in grim batol where you permanently stay in combat?

it always happens after the first boss

[subtle tundra]

Any attempt of coordonation is pointless at that level. No-one will care nor will have the necessary brain

[ornate escarp]

hey guys i need some help:
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5g91wCsLa2V3LDU3njk7UB
sim would say just the craftable trinket but every guide i see say its not that good 😄

was thinking about to get a crafted neck for m+ so i can get more crit / mastery out but it sims still lower.

what would u guys do ?

[thick juniper]

Good morning and happy new year! Do we still use "Clear the Witness" in rotation?

[wise whale]

Yes

[thick juniper]

ok, ty!

[brittle fulcrum]

Why does Blindside still transform mutilate into Ambush in the spellbook.
Will anyone try to bring this up to blizzard again because theres no GOOD reason for removing our control over our rotation

[coral ibex]

it doesn't matter, you shouldn't care

the 2 spells are basically equivalent output

blindside just gives you like 50 energy

[grim jay]

it just got added basically

yknow

[spice surge]

Not needing an extra keybind is a very good reason

[grim jay]

wait for the

[brittle fulcrum]

For the entirety of the last atleast two years since they made this change and until the end of the games lifespan they will be functionally the same? No

[grim jay]

"mutilate applies more poisons per cast than ambush"

[grim jay]

they are supposed to be roughly the same

ambush is even superior

[coral ibex]

i dont know what your point is there

[grim jay]

if you disregard the doublehit

[coral ibex]

they are currently basically equivalent

[spice surge]

And even if they werent, you cant really hold it anyway

So theres no real scenario where it would matter

[brittle fulcrum]

It doesnt matter theres no BENEFIT to it. If they did it to pistol shot it would make more sense, but theres no benefit to telling me I cant hold blindside for a global or three

[grim jay]

one less keybind

is the benefit of it being like it is, there is none the other way around

brother

[spice surge]

Well you would never want to hold it

[coral ibex]

i still dont know what point you're trying to make

[spice surge]

And one less keybind is a benefit

[coral ibex]

there is no benefit to holding it

so why would you want to hold it

[brittle fulcrum]

Im right here existing in this world wanting to hold it if I have enough energy to mutilate for extra poison procs during kingsbane

[coral ibex]

and there it is

xd

[grim jay]

funfact

it doesnt matter

[spice surge]

Well thats not the real world

[grim jay]

you wont deal more dmg in the kb window

if you replace an ambush with a mut

[brittle fulcrum]

Are you going to tell me why that is or

[spice surge]

Enjoy being upset at air

[coral ibex]

because the overwhelming massive majority of your poison applications come from auto attacks and not from mutilate's extra poison applications

so you are obsessing over something that doesn't matter

[grim jay]

because you realistically cap KB fast anyways and 1 application more or less wont change it

[grim jay]

and that obviously

[spice surge]

Its like dropping a penny and being upset your pension is ruined

[brittle fulcrum]

You dont cap kingsbane all that fast

[coral ibex]

you do, because you have double envenom buff the whole time in kb

[grim jay]

[coral ibex]

and if you dont then you have rotational issues that are more important than trying to optimize ambush usage

[brittle fulcrum]

Bruh

[coral ibex]

[brittle fulcrum]

How many auto attacks a second count for me

Im sure youve counted before since your so sure

[grim jay]

yknow eleem and whispyr do the math

and prepare sims

they thought about everything you just thought about

[coral ibex]

if you're disagreeing about autos applying most of your poisons its not like i'm making it up

this is established fact about how the spec works

[spice surge]

Like 4ish without BL

[brittle fulcrum]

Why is it any time people care about something all everyone else does is pour out of the walls to tell them stop caring

[grim jay]

because 99.9% of the time its irrelevant stuff

and life is to short to care about something that doesnt matter at all

[spice surge]

Doing 10 more dps when youre doing 1 600 000 is not relevant

[brittle fulcrum]

There is no benefit. To keeping me from using mutilate. You can not make any excuses for it.
You cant say lifes too short when your sitting here trying to change my mind because YOU care

[spice surge]

Not needing an extra keybind

Is a benefit

Like weve said

10000 times

[brittle fulcrum]

No its not, macros exist

next

[spice surge]

You cant macro it

[coral ibex]

bro what are you talking about

[grim jay]

im writing here because I enjoy helping people

[spice surge]

Buddy

[grim jay]

you just stepped in

stop getting weird

[spice surge]

Thats not how macros work

[coral ibex]

you're way more invested in mutilate vs ambush than any of us for sure

but the facts remain

[brittle fulcrum]

Im not getting weird I asked if we can try to make something better and you all poured out of the walls to talk down to me over nothing

[grim jay]

I prefer ambush

[coral ibex]

they are equivalent and it doesnt matter

[grim jay]

[brittle fulcrum]

Thats fair

[coral ibex]

TIL that posting in a channel i'm active in counts as "pouring out of the walls"

[spice surge]

Youre trying to make it worse, and were explaining why

[grim jay]

well because it doesnt make it better at all

[coral ibex]

sorry i didn't immediately stroke you

sheesh

[grim jay]

you can stroke me if you like

wait what

[spice surge]

Theres a reason they removed the keybind, and it has literally no impact on people minmaxxing dps

All it does is help people

[coral ibex]

"why doesn't anyone complain about this"
"because they're equivalent"
"REEEEEEEEEE UR ALL WEIRD FOR DISAGREEING!!!"

this is what ive experienced so far

so thanks!

[brittle fulcrum]

No, its your opinion that it helps

[grim jay]

its an established fact

[spice surge]

?

[grim jay]

that the majority of people

complains about too many binds

[spice surge]

Genuinely cant tell if im being trolled

[normal mist]

january first

[foggy thicket]

Lol, assa doesn’t have many binds

[normal mist]

keep that in mind

[foggy thicket]

Sub has

[normal mist]

sure thing brother

thats why they keep gutting it

[grim jay]

who asked

[coral ibex]

i mean

i still haven't filled my old snd or er binds

[grim jay]

I replaced the old ER with shiv

and snd with blind

now those spots are open

[brittle fulcrum]

I shoulda known better than to ask for public opinion when theres so many losers acting like theyre always right and noone elses opinion is allowed to survive

[coral ibex]

fuck you

[brittle fulcrum]

Get in line i dunno

[coral ibex]

got 3 people giving you reasonable answers

and you're being shitty

[spice surge]

If thats your takeaway from this

[brittle fulcrum]

Im not being shitty im telling you those are not good reasons thats my opinion

why are you losing your minds

[spice surge]

My condolences

[subtle tundra]

Literally blizz is going out of its way to make ambush = mutilate

Idk how it's an opinion

[grim jay]

you are literally the most obnoxious person ive seen in months

[subtle tundra]

When it's a fact

[coral ibex]

"i'm not being shitty" -> literally just called us losers

you're a fucking idiot for sure bud

[grim jay]

the majority of people has a different opinion than you and you just think your word is golden

[brittle fulcrum]

Because Im annoyed by some tiny thing in a game and your not?

Fuckin really?

[grim jay]

nah because you behave like you do

[brittle fulcrum]

Keep telling yourself im public enemy 1 I guess?

over this?

Hello?

Im public enemy number 1 because I didnt agree with you about this? Do you hear yourselves?

[spice surge]

Nobody is saying this

[grim jay]

literally karen rn

[brittle fulcrum]

look at the chat

The only karens here are the mob showing up to jump me because I dont agree with something silly like

[grim jay]

you: "x needs to be changed, because it sucks and it matters"
everyone:"no, x is better that way for the majority of people and it doesnt matter at all"
you:"NO IM RIGHT HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT"

[brittle fulcrum]

Its my right as an american to have an opinion and I didnt yell about it like your trying to pretend

HMM

[grim jay]

that sentence kinda says it all

ty for your time

[brittle fulcrum]

Cute cop out so you dont have to address the point

[crystal vault]

is there a string, to sim racials?

[grim jay]

#tc-research might have one

[latent gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[crystal vault]

could not find 😦

[grim jay]

sec

[brittle fulcrum]

To thoose of you who dont agree with my opinion. Thats great. But I dunno why you came in here trying to change my mind. Didnt ask

[subtle tundra]

HUH

narrow ass minded

[brittle fulcrum]

Holy shit kid

[crystal vault]

got it

[subtle tundra]

Stay in your bubble where you can't have a conversation without being attacked

[brittle fulcrum]

Agree to disagree and walk away im still waiting

[subtle tundra]

Victim mentality

Stay bad

What's your rio

[latent gazelle]

Eleem counting to 20 n do breathing exercises atm

[subtle tundra]

Wr?

[brittle fulcrum]

You STILL cant stay on topic man why is that?

[subtle tundra]

Idk how you pretend I'm a part of this convo

I don't give a shit about you

I'm trolling

[grim jay]

got it as in you are waiting or you found it

[sour delta]

summoning my God given rights to win an argument on the internet

[crystal vault]

found it ❤️

[grim jay]

eleem is just better at walking away from stupid arguments than most of us

[grim jay]

nice

[brittle fulcrum]

See was that so hard? admitted to being irrational on purpose easy block

Im going to find a human to talk to

[subtle tundra]

Damn

My loss

[coral ibex]

get blocked varas!

owned

[subtle tundra]

Davyn, can you ask his rio

[grim jay]

read his profile and #assassination message

you can only lose

atleast in his mind

[grim jay]

nah I'm scared

I'd lose the following argument

[brittle fulcrum]

He doesnt need my rio hes trolling

[subtle tundra]

Well I have higher Rio so my opinion is worth more

L

[brittle fulcrum]

literal scum trying to harass people over something this dumb thats crazy

[subtle tundra]

Haha yes

What's your wr

[brittle fulcrum]

Noone cares

How about you focus on letting other humans have opinions and quit trying to beat people with yours

[spice surge]

Time to stop and move on

[brittle fulcrum]

Iv been wanting to thankyou. So does anyone know a way I can get a question with a wow dev?

[subtle tundra]

[coral ibex]

lmfao

https://careers.blizzard.com/global/en

here you go lil bro

go apply

[brittle fulcrum]

Ohhh look, more being rude because I dont agree with you about somethign stupid

[grim jay]

atleast you admitted its stupid

to answer your question tho, no there is no way except posting on the forum

[brittle fulcrum]

Its SUCH a small thing and your all pouring out of the walls the be assholes

crazy

[spice surge]

What part of moving on did we miss

[coral ibex]

this person should never speak to a dev

[brittle fulcrum]

As if you know anythign about me thats cute

[subtle tundra]

This is pure content

New year starting strong

[brittle fulcrum]

Are you done being a dick instead of letting me look for someone to talk to?

[grim jay]

you already got your answer tho

there wont be any dev to talk to about it

unless you are there at one of 4 moments over the year

[subtle tundra]

And he doesn't even talk about designs anymore, does he

[brittle fulcrum]

I take it the forums are locked or something

[grim jay]

wdym with locked

[grim jay]

he only conveys ideas that seem good at most iirc

but its also not his job

either way

[subtle tundra]

It was a cesspool before anyways

[fleet whale]

Getting fewer poison procs during Kingsbane due to blindside replacing your mutilate bind with ambush has to be on the absolute bottom of the list of assassination issues
(if it's even an issue at all as KB stacks go up fast regardless)

[brittle fulcrum]

I just wanna control when I use procs dude

its not that much to ask and for people to come in here just to tell me im objectively wrong and im being weird about it is silly

Your opinions great leave mine alone and tell me if you know a work around or not

[subtle tundra]

No class has that

Sorry eleem

[spice surge]

Again, what part of DROP THE CONVERSATION did you miss?

[subtle tundra]

MY MARVEL RIVALS IS STUCK AT 99%

[grim jay]

ew

[brittle fulcrum]

I was trying not to say it

[subtle tundra]

Hawk tuah

[subtle tundra]

I thought I was blocked buddy

[golden loom]

What if blindside doesnt proc a poison and also doesnt crit, then you saved energy and gained 1 combo point and at the same time it doesnt matter for kingsbane

[atomic jolt]

guys

I got tier set

[brittle fulcrum]

Iv been clicking expand unfortunately discord enables my habit of talking back to trolls xD

[atomic jolt]

or this trinket

what should I get

from chest

both 613 ilvl

[golden loom]

Probably trinket, tier is more easily obtained

[atomic jolt]

ok

[brittle fulcrum]

Is that trinket from raid or just a dungeon

[golden loom]

But doesnt matter too much, just go by vibes tbh, ur not locked out of stuff for heroic track

[brittle fulcrum]

Cus raid is time gated

[golden loom]

Can just get any heroic piece and catalyse if you want tier tho

[atomic jolt]

i think

its raid

[golden loom]

Nah the trinket is from dawnbreaker

So m+ vault slot

[atomic jolt]

oh

[golden loom]

It is good tho so you probably wont regret it

[brittle fulcrum]

Personally I dont mind doing the same key 100 times

[subtle tundra]

I'm not home so I'm playing whatever I can on my friends puter

[golden loom]

Farming m+ for heroic track gear always sounded aids to me

Just do some weekly +10s and pray for vault

[brittle fulcrum]

Yea im prob weird on this one too but I just like keys

[gentle rover]

Got champion skardyns first try still waiting for hero or myth from vault 😭

[brittle fulcrum]

You spent all your good karma when you only ran one GB you gotta time a 12 to appease the universe

[gentle rover]

I did that it didn’t work

[strange sleet]

That will take you 150+ hours if you are lucky. Given you are playing with pugs

[agile geode]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[brittle fulcrum]

Well there goes MY model of the solar system Iv gotten everythign wrong

[pliant remnant]

He feels his control slipping once more

[fresh kelp]

Recruiting the bros for the diabolical agi 5stack makes it go by 10x faster

[rustic zealot]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[wet glacier]

Hey guys. What embellishment for Everforged Stabber? It will be equipped in MH and i run mostly M+

[runic hinge]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[craggy basin]

rebuilt comp and forgot to save wa/plater stuff. Figured id just set up something new. does anyone have a pref for plater profiles? i see whispyr and cev's in the pins.

[coral ibex]

whispyr’s is a good base, i don’t like the shape and size of it but the recolor for debuff mod is great

[oak lagoon]

Hello if you play with 2 stack of envenom do you try to apply them both everytime?

[normal mist]

just play normally

don't overcap energy

spam if you have a lot of energy

[cunning cloak]

in p1 queen for root breaks, are we just not using vanish for opener and using it for root breaks?

[neat smelt]

tends to line up well no?

first roots with vanish

[cunning cloak]

i have no idea, just killed council and starting queen tonight

[neat smelt]

im progging it as sub, but i think vanish lines up well

[cunning cloak]

ok cool

[bold drum]

p1 lines up rly well just need jesus for the second one but 1 and 3 you can quite comfortably break with vanish

[spice surge]

Better to cloak the second one

You have more time (and warrior cooldowns typically) for the third set

[bold drum]

oh ye mb havent rekilled it in a bit vanish cloak nothing vanish is the optimal situation

[spice surge]

Theres no fourth set bud

It was removed in like november

[hollow compass]

ring gems

[grim jay]

they got fancy names right?

[tawdry flint]

everyone thinks that until GB

[sturdy python]

Does anyone know what ilev the new ring should be per week (i.e, what should it be this week, and is it just +3 every week thereafter?)

I ask because I got +6 ilev this week when I thought I was already at cap last week (so I only expected +3)

Apologies if this is answered somewhere else

[frosty bridge]

649 this week

but some people abused race changes last week to get an extra 3, not sure if its fixed yet

[sturdy python]

oh shit

is that what did it

I did actually race change last week, back from Gnome which I took as part of our Ansurek mythic strat (racial escape thing)

Oooof

Holy shit, that's crazy, I didn't even mean to

[long hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[grim jay]

dw the cops are already informed

[humble verge]

wasnt this only a pre-nerf strat?

[haughty silo]

Need help with macro. Want to have rupture mouseover but if my mouse isnt over an enemy I want the rupture to me in the target I have targeted. Anybody who can help?

[short tangle]

/cast [@mouseover][@target] Rupture

[sturdy python]

We started it pre-nerf, I don't know if it wasn't useful post-nerf, but I stayed gnome after that because I'm lazy

[haughty silo]

Hmm it doesnt work, wont put rupture untill i have the mouse over the target

[short tangle]

try this then:
/cast [@mouseover,exists][@target]

[humble verge]

ah alright

[haughty silo]

lovely! ty!

[strange sleet]

😮

[daring glen]

did anyone do the ring upgrade quest on alts

can you skip it or you have to do it on every char

[worn badger]

So is skardyns even crazier with all the mastery from circe ring ?

[short tangle]

have to do again 🙂

[daring glen]

whats the fastest way to do it

[short tangle]

You can skip to get the ring, but have to do quest to get upgrade.

Can't do them faster.

[daring glen]

this one it takes so long

[short tangle]

Do weekly

[rotund oak]

ye those two minutes

[brittle fulcrum]

GBs my best key this season I play assassination and there was a lot of useable gear in there 😛

[rotund oak]

of gathering and blasting everything

[daring glen]

wdym 2 mins

one boss gives like 12%

[rotund oak]

take a mine or a robot

and blow up everything

wdym wdym 2min

i did it in like 2min

[daring glen]

it doesnt let me take the robot

before i complete this

[rotund oak]

if u havent done the first upgrade then will take like 10min

kil;ling elites

with the mine

[short tangle]

weekly quest count toward activities

[rotund oak]

and that

daily quests count towards that progress

so u need like 40%

and the quests

which u will finish either way to get that 40%

[fallow canopy]

quests give a shit ton of progress

[worldly dock]

Guys wich build should i play on queen? Full ST?

or maybe some cleave

[clever sapphire]

i would assume you just run the normal build with spatter

and call it a day

[grim jay]

dang, sometimes I wish there was a site where that kind of info is displayed

[worldly dock]

well there is
warcraft logs

[radiant osprey]

hi, what tier pieces should i have

[spice surge]

Whatever

It doesnt matter much at all

[runic hinge]

Whatever you got that’s the highest ilvl

[radiant osprey]

when do i not wanna use crimson tempest

is single target bad

[spice spire]

Yes do not Ct st

Any 2+ target

[broken moth]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[radiant osprey]

ok thank u sweetheart

[sturdy python]

looks like people are actively abusing it, so by the above logic, this guy has paid for multiple race changes https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/draenor/Bonskichamp

https://tenor.com/view/when-your-team-too-good-ban-salt-bae-gif-7580925

[clever sapphire]

wdym ban, its free money for blizzard

[marble hemlock]

race changing isnt/wasnt the only way to do it tho

some people got 1k+ ilvl on it

but ye its kinda crazy how much random stuff is happening rn to give additional power, made the entire highkey pushing kinda stupid when some teams just abused the hell out of it

[slate crown]

Was that ever verified? I only saw scuffed screenshots of it

[marble hemlock]

ye

[slate crown]

wild

[marble hemlock]

theres one rn where you can just get 100% crit with some weird trinket abuse

idk

game is whack as hell atm

and all flasks

[grim jay]

based

[restive bobcat]

newer to sin, trying to learn as much as i can, if anyone has a moment to take a look at this log real quick and tell me what i need to focus on i would appreciate it!

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FW71Bm8VqfTzLrpD?fight=7&type=damage-done

I know my cd usage was pretty poor, and crimson tempest wasn't used enough i'm sure.

[narrow jungle]

@restive bobcat no matter the class or spec, cooldown usage on certain packs in keys. Is what makes or breaks ur dps

Assassination has a 1/2min CD so usually u should be popping them as often as possible. Especially in higher keys when ur 2min is gonna come back mid boss fight anyway

[restive bobcat]

I kinda figured. If i used cd's on cd there, i thought my dps would be probably about where it should be

[sudden torrent]

anychance someone could drop whispers plater profile? I feel like i need to update mine

[pure moth]

!wa @sudden torrent

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[sly gale]

sorry to bother, any good way to apply rapture to the full dex bonus?

[old halo]

not sure i understand the question, can you re-phrase

[pliant remnant]

Think it's a Bible thing

[soft surge]

is the ruptue macro better than the inbuilt mouseover function?

same for kicks?

i feel like i miss kicks using the inbuilt mouse over function

[hollow river]

i think it's basically the same thing, macros just have additional conditional functions like harm/nodead etc

[soft surge]

dono maybe its my plater strata/level

[uneven nymph]

hello, i want my first message here to be that i use my mouse to click abilities on my 2nd bar

[soft surge]

feel like im mouseovering and its missed

[soft surge]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-nerd-gif-9743791

[uneven nymph]

idk how else to play it

also like to mention i started a week ago

[soft surge]

an effiecnt binding system revoling around two side mouse butons that work as modifers like ctrl and shift

[hollow river]

you can key bind them if you'd like

[uneven nymph]

how do macros work?

can i bind the whole rotation onto 1 key?

or 2?

[hollow river]

no

[uneven nymph]

😭

[soft surge]

Q E R F C V 1 2 3 4

then shift and ctrl modifers of those

[hollow river]

if you go into the game's settings, you can key bind everything

[uneven nymph]

would it make much of a difference to my dps ?

[hollow river]

yes

[uneven nymph]

i feel like id only struggle in raids with whats happening on the screen

[balmy condor]

Depends how bad your dps is I guess

[uneven nymph]

because im usually watching my cds

[balmy condor]

Like if clicking is actively holding you back from pressing things

Then it has an impact

I’ve seen clickers be successful

[uneven nymph]

i feel like rn its not that bad but like 1 or 2 more cds anad ill be losing on major dps

[balmy condor]

It’s rare but it can happen

[uneven nymph]

but i wanna ask is how do macros work?

like what can i use it for as a clicker ?

[balmy condor]

Fairly little

[uneven nymph]

tryna dumb down the rotation as much as possible

[hollow river]

you can macro off GCD things together

or 1 GCD and multiple off GCD abilities

[uneven nymph]

gcd?

[hollow river]

global cooldown

[uneven nymph]

whats the difference between a global cooldown and a normal ability?

[sharp viper]

global cool down - most abilities but not all trigger a 1s ( for rogues) cooldown on everything

[balmy condor]

Like your combat potion, racial, thistle tea

[uneven nymph]

oh

oki

thatd be useful

would safe me clicking troll racial and stealth

so i cant macro dmg abilites?

like lets say to hi shiv, mulit, and rupture?

hit*

[balmy condor]

If an ability does damage it’s probably on the gcd

[uneven nymph]

oh okay

would it be worth for me to start using macros than?

cuz it doesnt seem to be worth the hassle

[balmy condor]

for assassination there's kinda 2 macros that are fine to use

macroing your trinket/potion/racial to deathmark, and macroing tea to shiv

everything else probably isn't worth your time

[uneven nymph]

wdym potion like crimson veil?

or a pot from inv?

[hollow river]

like dps potion from your bags yeah

[sharp viper]

Tempered potion

[uneven nymph]

dps potions?

oh boys

i see im far behind where i am i need to be to actually start using this advice xd

[sharp viper]

This thing for example

[uneven nymph]

yeah i didnt even kno that existed 😭

[balmy condor]

have you been reading guides?

[hollow river]

there's a lot of guides on wowhead

[sharp viper]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[drifting lily]

a question answered a ton im sure but am i running authority of the depths on both daggers in all content?

[balmy condor]

probably a good place to start yeh

[balmy condor]

yes

[drifting lily]

okay thats what i figured thanks

[uneven nymph]

question what is authority of depths

[balmy condor]

weapon enchant

[uneven nymph]

do i need to worry about it before i hit 70-80 cuz im 64 rn

?

[balmy condor]

oh if you're not max level nothing matters

[uneven nymph]

PERFECT

[balmy condor]

you haven't started the game yet if you're not 80

[hollow river]

[uneven nymph]

ive been doing dngs to lvl 😭

[sharp viper]

you can slowly start reading through one of the guides once you want to prepare

[uneven nymph]

ill start at problably looking at it once i get to 80

i was told by a guildie to get 80, go siren island, farm gear, than learn

[balmy condor]

I heard the twink that wrote it is super mean

[sharp viper]

super hot though

[balmy condor]

that's a plus

[uneven nymph]

aight thank you all for helping ill back once i got questions

❤️

[pliant remnant]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/924436307202174976/1170474444624511078/giphy.gif

[balmy condor]

good luck

[balmy condor]

frfr

[waxen oyster]

Is stepping ansurek or a melee better for uptime

I assume dk tank would be best

[balmy condor]

that's the same innit

[waxen oyster]

tbh i def feel i lose a sec or two of uptime

being ubee safe walking out of melee for like 2 secs

maybe dont need to

[balmy condor]

I mean you still need to walk out of melee for 2 sec if you're gonna step a tank

you still get yoinked

[waxen oyster]

oh true

step a tank might not take a web tick

ig?

[balmy condor]

maybe idk

feels like pointless optimization

[waxen oyster]

is the damage just from being near other people

or what exactly

[balmy condor]

during what exactly

[waxen oyster]

intermission splash

[balmy condor]

you take ticking damage from being in a circle

[waxen oyster]

i.e why you cant stack on other people

oh

its from their circles

[grand trail]

cant wait for guide writter first impression for rogue tier set ❤️

[waxen oyster]

it sucks

cue circus music

[balmy condor]

can tell you my section is insanely negative

[grand trail]

no spoilers pls

[balmy condor]

and if you play other melee dps classes

theirs will most likely also be insanely negative

[waxen oyster]

wont the spammy classes

not feel it as much

[balmy condor]

what

[grand trail]

tbh i just hate the mog

[waxen oyster]

well its shit design but feel losing the buff

[grand trail]

mog is so no rogue like

it bother me

[waxen oyster]

is worse for bursty

we had a good s1 set

guess they have to balance it

[balmy condor]

well it could be like sub

where you just don't lose the streak

[waxen oyster]

no 1.5min trinket

sub deadge confirmed

[balmy condor]

yeah surely

sub unplayable

[grand trail]

or two on use again

[proven jasper]

Full unplayable

[grand trail]

anyway they forced sub to be 90sec and than they refuse to do 90s trinket to support those spec

not bad

[balmy condor]

after like 7 raid tiers of meta rogue spec

sub finally dead cause no 90s trink

that's what's gonna do it

[waxen oyster]

[grand trail]

i dont care what spec i play on progress

[proven jasper]

tbf they have str 1:30’s but just cant remember to make an agi one ig

[grand trail]

assa sub both were fine

[waxen oyster]

isnt every str spec 1:30

and ret doesnt even have a cd anymore since wings just procs when you wake

[proven jasper]

ya p much

Isnt uh 2 mins tho

[grand trail]

ret would need 30s trinket

😄

[nova python]

Hey, anyone willing to take a minute and help me figure out where i am making mistakes that i cant do, apparently the dmg i should be doing? (according to parses)

[balmy condor]

link the log

[nova python]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JN4Qk9BgMLtTaC2d?fight=113&type=damage-done&source=314

its heroic kyveza so full ST and idk i still cant get even close to 90 parses so theres definitely something im doing wrong

[soft surge]

why blessed grip

isnt that super duper rng

[balmy condor]

this kill time is horrid

[grand trail]

Not sure how is blessed grip but saw people running with it

[balmy condor]

no deathmark in execute

[woven shore]

whats ring level this week

649?

[grand trail]

Yes

[balmy condor]

649 yes

[woven shore]

okay thank you guys

whisp did you kill queen?

[soft surge]

same and i have the crests and gold to craft one, just dono if its people tryna be cool and wacky by playing it

[woven shore]

or christmas brea

k

[soft surge]

maybe ill just craft it and test

[balmy condor]

we haven't raided in 2 weeks cause holidays

thursday again

[woven shore]

same

first time fighting the last boss for CE titel

im so nervous my god

[waxen oyster]

Kb below rupture means you played your kb windows wrong

[woven shore]

but with that fat ring uf

i doubt it be hard

[waxen oyster]

Ring is more rng than anything

[balmy condor]

I mean not really though right

[grand trail]

I was running with that zap thing and it do some dmg

[balmy condor]

he only got 1 kb in execute

kinda dogshit

[grand trail]

Like mandate withniut critting

[soft surge]

zap fun

storm sewer legendary skipper proc is pretty good

[nova python]

whats the execute then because im confused rn

[balmy condor]

zoldyck

[woven shore]

what exactly gets stronger by upgrading the ring ?

the life right

[grand trail]

I got mythic mandate in vault i felt so hyped but than i critted once per 10 use and put it in bag again 😄

[woven shore]

the stats on the ring gems are set / improve by other gear stats

[soft surge]

does this use much resource? as in lower fps

[woven shore]

?

[soft surge]

the time to kill

https://i.imgur.com/X02qZzv.png

[balmy condor]

the gems increase I think

[woven shore]

hm okay

tx

[waxen oyster]

iirc wasnt best setup to have all your healers play war queen’s

so dps skippers could proc it

[balmy condor]

none of the healer guides recommend it

[grand trail]

Man I play 6 alts and all have the same gem combo

[balmy condor]

yep

welcome to 11.0.7

[grand trail]

Fun

[waxen oyster]

i’ve seen healers play no ring

idk if trolling

[grand trail]

I see many people play no ring

[waxen oyster]

90% sure the only gem people really change for dps

is stormbound for thunderlord

[grand trail]

Open logs:D

[nova python]

im kinda confused, is it according to log i posted or its to something else?

dont really have any idea what that means

[sharp viper]

I certainly know what those gems are by name

[waxen oyster]

Its weird since corrupt the blood is added to rupture on logs

but yeah that is not a good kill time

[sturdy python]

where are you seeing all of this? the 1k ilev, the trinket abuse?

[nova python]

yeah its some random pug heroic thing i did cause im bored

but more i was concerned by my parses/dmg. idk just feels like im doing something wrong if, my personal play is wrong, or wrong udnerstanding of spec/abilites that im not doing as much as i should be

thats what im looking for tbh

1 kb in execute
kinda dogshit
no deathmark in execute

thats the only thing i think was according to log that i cant even understand what you mean by that

[waxen oyster]

Because kbs in execute

do much more

due to zoldyck

Or be like that one week where I had all 9 kb ticks crit with radiant power up

[nova python]

ok, but would that be the only thing i did wrong or are there any mistakes according to idk cds usage/rotation or anything?

[balmy condor]

rotation was fine

[nova python]

ok so wrong usage of kb and missing deathmark in execute potentialy missed bigger dps window right?

usually parsing as dps is harder than as tank or its pure knowledge/class understanding?

[waxen oyster]

I mean missing deathmark is massive.

[old halo]

parsing is for try-hards smh, Boss kills most important XD

[nova python]

i cant propely remeber but i quess deathmark came up like at last 3-4% so idk i just didnt use, thats wrong but otherwise its good to hold deathmark for execute when he is back at around 45-50%?

[waxen oyster]

yeah thats kinda a shit timer

not even sure if holding would fix

[misty holly]

Are we going to get a guide writer first impressions of the rogue tier set bonuses article on wowhead soon?

[waxen oyster]

Search a poop emoji

[spice spire]

Yes

I’m sure

[thorn thorn]

"Yes the 11.2 tier for assassination is certainly a set bonus of all time, I will see you all in 11.3"

[tawdry mica]

the guide in question:

[marble hemlock]

Some of it was public logged (they since deleted the logs)

[pliant remnant]

Don't forget the clown music

[worldly sail]

we love gambling

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/coin-flip-gif-25047701

peak rogue gameplay

[balmy condor]

5 paragraphs of me bitching about how unbelievably stupid it is, yes

[spice spire]

They didn’t let you use the manifesto?

[balmy condor]

idk the review is 1k words

it's basically manifesto

[royal lantern]

cant you prepare a "fill the blanks" review for that?

less Work in the longterm

[balmy condor]

what

[dawn seal]

hey

omg