assassination

[potent lance]

1 sec

[dense badger]

Click save bottom right

Try dat

You are rupturing the dummy and not just pressing mutilate right?

[potent lance]

i do but still not working i ahve a wa for track caustic its up but the name color not changing

[dense badger]

Tried a /reload?

[potent lance]

did that too :((

it was fix after i update the plater profile

its not working

anymore

[dense badger]

I’d delete it and re-import then maybe. Mine works beautifully

[potent lance]

:((

you didnt import any extra things form shiv for color?

[dense badger]

Nope

[potent lance]

i mean maybe need another modding or script for colors

[dense badger]

That is literally the script for the colour

[potent lance]

yeap

[dense badger]

Yeah idk man, mines working fine even after updating plater addon etc

[spice spire]

Real question did u tho

[runic hinge]

[vapid shore]

What’s the play for the add phase on the last boss of NW. Past a 14 key it takes forever to kill it as sin. Any tips? I know some just leave and go sub.

[dense badger]

Shadowmeld let someone else deal with it😂

[spice spire]

You can also vanish it

But the real answer is stun and kb when you’re down there

[ashen totem]

i play mandate for that add, didnt know ppl where using KB on it on a 14

[fresh kelp]

weyrnstone

[thorn fjord]

Yes I had a really good christmas

[spice spire]

Glad to hear!

[round vapor]

Which poisons should I be rocking in M+ as assassination?

Deadly, Atrophic, Amplyfying, and ?

[spice surge]

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[round vapor]

Appreciate that, sorry didn't realize that function exists.

So I can't go Deadly, Atrophic, Amplifying, and Instant?

[novel star]

no

[round vapor]

Thank you

And here's a final question, in relation to DTB, does it matter the order in which the poisons are applied to the weapons?

To ensure which one will be docked the 30%?

[novel star]

no

[spice spire]

no

[spice surge]

All of them get -30%

Or well, times 0.7

[novel star]

no

[spice spire]

Negative 30%

[balmy condor]

Yes

[royal lantern]

no

[novel star]

i’m going to feed you my balls bro.

[placid adder]

Maybe

[balmy condor]

On jah?

[round vapor]

What order should I be casting them in then, Whispyr?

[novel star]

Deadass.

Boiled

[balmy condor]

Order doesn’t matter

[novel star]

Just for you

[round vapor]

Thank you.

A lot of no's and yes's thrown around, got confused.

I saw that you could also have an instant equipped so I figured I'd ask.

[spice surge]

Instead of deadly or amplifying yes

But its worse than those

So

[round vapor]

Gotcha. Thank you!

[past bobcat]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[vast patio]

I didn't open my vault all week

let's gooooo

[humble verge]

hoooooly

[smoky rock]

Hello stabbers! I'm a lifelong victim of your stabbing (warrior) that has finally decided to try rogue. I walk in here with shield wall hoping for some advice. Coming from fury where you just smash buttons without tracking, this specs feels very alien to me but im trying to get used to it. A question i have regarding the rotation and guide:
Cast Envenom Icon Envenom with 5+ Combo Points. Refresh Envenom in the last second of its duration to benefit from Rapid Injection Icon Rapid Injection. Cast it with 7 CP when Darkest Night Icon Darkest Night is active.
So should i hold from casting envenom until the last second? ( i feel at sometimes when all your dots are rolling, there isnt anything to press?)

[heady elbow]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[spring moat]

essentially yes. but with twist the knife talent you can stack evenoms

we need an adult over here @spice spire

[spice surge]

Its fine to not use your envenom (that isnt darkest night) immediately

[spice spire]

Assuming this is st

Adult eleem is very real

[spice surge]

But ye assa's limiting resource is energy, not globals like fury (and most other specs)

On ST that is

During shivs (and/or kingsbane) you want to use your stuff asap though

Or during other damage amps like mist first boss etc

[smoky rock]

during opener after ambush > garrote > rupture > FoK is it better to use ambush or mutilate (until the stealth buff drops and ambush isnt usable anymore)

[spice surge]

It does not matter

[smoky rock]

Guide is a bit confusing to me on AOE, you stealth and apply garrote and rupture on the whole pack, then crimson tempest, then use cds and ST on the high prio? vanish to reapply garrote and spread ruptures again?

[spice surge]

Get 5 ruptures out, ct up and then go spatter and envenom

Can build with garrote while stealthed

[smoky rock]

for spatter its simply mutilate on the main target?

[runic hinge]

Yes it’s a ten second debuff

[smoky rock]

Wonderful, thanks guys, ill go practice this now 😄

[fading vigil]

did i sim this right??? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/toDWccFrcJ6pE8cWeznxk7 i was seeing if i need to put on authority of depths and change my gems around

for my ST raid focused

but sim is telling me to run what i had for keys haha

[spice spire]

Seems legit

[keen spruce]

gud button to keep things in context

monkey brain sees numbers in the thousands and thinks "oh that's a big difference"

but really we're talkin about .2%

[native heron]

So outside of death mark/kingsbane I envenom only to keep it from falling off correct?

[keen spruce]

pretty much yeah

[native heron]

Jfc I fucked yo so bad last night then

[keen spruce]

you're just not cramming every global you can between CDs

[native heron]

No wonder I been energy starved haha

[keen spruce]

well you're still gonna be energy starved

at some point

but this just helps a little bit

[native heron]

Fair enough

[keen spruce]

like with TTK you're still gonna be filling up a lot of globals keeping 2 stacks of envenom roling

while keeping bleeds refreshed

[balmy condor]

with ttk you're basically full spamming anyway

[keen spruce]

but it's just not cramming every single global on the frame

you ccan occasionally vibe out for a second or two

but that's only gonna get you so much energy to work with

[native heron]

Gotta say I’m not a fan of this passive auto drinking tea.

[keen spruce]

I think for people that really care about the ins and outs of the rotation probably lean towards a negative opinion of auto-tea

but mostly neutral

idc about it tbh

[balmy condor]

they care too much

[keen spruce]

just remove it from my bars, macro it to shiv and it's no longer on my mind

my energy occasionally goes up quickly

[balmy condor]

yep

[native heron]

I didn’t think about that!

[fading vigil]

for brood

do yall run ST?

a heroic parse run

[spice spire]

Likely just st with caustic

[gloomy heart]

is there a way to make this show hm time is left on bleeds and kb

Like if i kingsbane i want it to show the number on it

[distant plinth]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

probably need an addon to replace the entire target frame

I know elvui can turn debuffs on the target into bars

but yeh idk

[runic hinge]

Did I make the cut

Or is it just TC’s

[keen spruce]

I don't think you're in there

i can't remember

[runic hinge]

Exsang and uhh fragment

[keen spruce]

@cunning needle

[ruby kiln]

Hey guys! So qq about Zekvir ??. How do you manage to dispell yourself the poison? I mean I save the kick for the heal and then we have like 2 min cd on cloak.

[clever wolf]

Vanish

[runic hinge]

Vanish will dispel it

Also I waited a tick to see if bran would dispel cause he will for you about a 1 min cd

[ruby kiln]

Ahhh gg, thanks brothers

[cunning needle]

[keen spruce]

i'm getting you into this TC raid

i'm talkin u up

[cunning needle]

😮

❤️

[strange sleet]

hey guys how good is the ring?

do I need to get it or nah?

[slate crown]

Da pins da pins

[strange sleet]

Oh ok I see the ping

yeah yeah

[slate crown]

Got you first

[strange sleet]

😦

[slate crown]

It’s ok you checked them at least

[strange sleet]

yeah didn't remember at first

I'll read it later, it's pretty big

[tired oyster]

At what key lvl does Sudden Demise stop being the play? 🧐

[spice surge]

No

[strange sleet]

depends on your party dps and the week

[spice spire]

Real

[spice spire]

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/no-giga-chad-no-gif-21613582

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-interview-it-goes-without-saying-gif-12669775144079688963

[cunning needle]

im in ❤️

[vast patio]

so has anyone run the math on the tier set diffs

[spice surge]

No

Because we dont know how they work

[vast patio]

oh yeah ptr isn't out yet is it

[spice surge]

As PTR isnt up

[vast patio]

yeah nevermind

MB

[keen spruce]

[rain mortar]

on silken court i should try to keep rupture AND garrote up on both targets?

[analog hornet]

Hey 🙋🏻‍♂️ Im twinking now with a heal monk and see many rogues without Iron wire... in Pugs... with no interrupt... often obertime... 😅 why? Its a Single talentpoint we can choose to make the way easyer 😅 "It dont make dmg!" 🥲😭

[spice spire]

A lot of rogues go for whatever the top rogue is doing, despite the top rogues being in a coordinated group without the need.
Iron wire dropping is not advocated for here.

[old halo]

IW a must unless higly coordinated high keys

[spice spire]

It is a very good talent for pug adventures, helps tank survivability, and saves the group in a pinch and makes the overall start to the pull a bit smoother,

[spice spire]

I drop it in Mists

But I’m a hater

Don’t do that

[old halo]

i only do like 10s i dont push so IW all day

[spice spire]

Same

I’ve done a 12 and a few 11s

I cba

[old halo]

im running pvp gear at 30% verst so idk just play whats fun XD

[spice spire]

Amen brethren

At least you’re not fighting for your life in siege if the boss decides your his favorite at the end

[analog hornet]

Its sad 🥲 so many Talents to help the groupe 🥲 and no one can see it and honors it 🥲🥳

[humble verge]

yikes

depleted a fucking 14 mists

😭

[green pier]

think i fixed it 😛 understand what i was doing wrong now 👍

thanks for the help ❤️

[gloomy heart]

am i just HIM

[humble verge]

what, kicking more than the ranged?

[gloomy heart]

Not used to being 1st dps on kicks

bc i have silence

[humble verge]

yeah, i rarely kick myself nowadays tbh

[strange sleet]

You mean is a must in high keys unless the group is coordinated? If the key is not really high I don't think it's a must tbh. It's nice to have, but I've never used it again since I dropped it

[humble verge]

i either wait out the cast and blind

cba swapping targets

-dps

[runic hinge]

Hunter has double the cd and priest has 3 times the cd. I hope you’re top

[gloomy heart]

Garrote Garrote Garrote

[runic hinge]

You ever do the first hallway in SV and not have a single cast go off cause you’re just silencing everything? Makes me feel like IW is worth it every time

[strange sleet]

Maybe in that scenario. But in most of my groups there is a protpally

[runic hinge]

Same. And I like IW cause the dr helps them cause they kinda squishy at the start of a pack

[wheat tiger]

Any advice on M+ pulls for 14+ and above?

[humble verge]

dont die

[wheat tiger]

I do really good dps 10-12, but when other good players join higher keys shit dies before I can get stuff rolling

[gloomy heart]

@balmy condor monster zero tierlist when

[blazing pumice]

download the targeted spell WA and spam feint

[runic hinge]

It’s been posted before

[old halo]

been carrying pugs in low keys since 2004 lmao, its a must

[humble verge]

are you outlaw or assa tho, youre in assa chat

[strange sleet]

ye sure, why not?

[solar wyvern]

Haven't watched but strawberry and peach better be in Stier

[gloomy heart]

WHERE IS IT

i need rto see

[strange sleet]

Don't overdot. You wanna get 5-6 ruptures for the agility, and an early crimson. Kingsbane soon so you can hit the most amount of mobs withs caustic. Cast envenom as much as possible for the poison bombs.

[solar wyvern]

People play IW in gb 17 and sometimes in stonevault as well. But yeah its not required

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-energy-drink-anime-gif-18381333

[humble verge]

original monster supremacy

[spice spire]

Rehab stan to avoid the creatine cramps

[pure moth]

Hello

[spice spire]

Howdy

[runic hinge]

Meowdy

[fallow canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/meowdy-howdy-cat-howdy-cat-in-a-hat-cat-in-the-ten-gallon-hat-gif-27347110

[spice spire]

Meowdy everybunny! How’s it hopping?

[pure moth]

Its hopping

[slate crown]

dog?

[balmy condor]

Yes?

[slate crown]

what's monster taste like?

[balmy condor]

Salty

[slate crown]

So it tastes like the picture?

[balmy condor]

Depends on their pineapple intake

[slate crown]

Hmm

wtf is monster rehab lol

like half the caffeine?

[balmy condor]

It’s like electrolyte vitamin tea monster

[slate crown]

lol

You go into the hospital to get put on an IV

and they ask what flavor you want

"monster"

[ember mural]

MMMMMmeow

[spice spire]

Hate you

[spice spire]

Dog ain’t no way

[balmy condor]

Hm?

[spice spire]

Hell yeah

[spice spire]

Miss u(s)

[balmy condor]

Sorry who are you

[runic hinge]

Gonster stream when

[spice spire]

I’m actually going to rip ur ass a new one

[subtle tundra]

Cute

👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[runic hinge]

Varas do you have any good copy pasta today

[subtle tundra]

I'm trying to sleep it's 5am

😒

[keen spruce]

@cunning needle I'M WATCHIN U LIKE A HAWK

I WANNA SEE 100S

[cunning needle]

bro im so washed

i dont even have the ring

i havent played for 2 weeks

i cant even remember how to do my opener properly anymore

help

[spice spire]

Bro that’s crazy, my wife just asked if the dishes were cleaned and I just sent her “Fimbulvtr” and she already knew they’d been washed

[cunning needle]

oi

[keen spruce]

[spice spire]

I’m sorry you didn’t deserve that

[ember mural]

Living up to your name

[violet jackal]

ME first please👉 👈

[vapid geode]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling wax:

• Can be pickpocketed from kobolds in e.g. The Ringing Deeps. (needs The Final Candle questline completed.)
• Only use it on one weapon. (does not stack)

[spice spire]

Hey king see you in Atlanta xoxo

[keen spruce]

my man is playing sub

nvm

I can't watch him like a hawk

[spice spire]

(Ik where you are, just reminiscing to November of 22)

[keen spruce]

[cunning needle]

because assi is poo

[keen spruce]

[runic hinge]

Trickster sub kinda fun

DS sub pretty stinky

[keen spruce]

well he's not giving me a pov to watch

so idk what he's doin

[cunning needle]

there pov is up

he's right though, ds sub stinky

[keen spruce]

I left to do keys

[cunning needle]

i've been streaming for nothing!

using up my precious bandwidth

do you know how many pidgeons it takes to stream

[keen spruce]

more than 3?

[balmy condor]

soup man I have missed you

where have you been

[cunning needle]

going through phase 2 of my mid life crisis

attempting to not be a degenerate

by sleeping by 12

and waking up at 8

then going for a walk in the morning

it worked out up till the part where i somehow stuffed up my knee

and now i need to ice it

[spice spire]

Oh I know why it happened

old

[cunning needle]

[spice spire]

It’s okay king I’m old too

[cunning needle]

bro i stretch every morning now

[spice spire]

Same but that’s preworkout shit

[cunning needle]

its acutally done wonders for my back

[spice spire]

I bring a resistance band to work

Like I’m oldge

[cunning needle]

do a sneaky workout between meetings?

[spice spire]

Nah the night workout is the heavy stuff so it’s just to loosen it up before we head home

[cunning needle]

ahhh yeah smart

i should probably start incorporating some mid day stretching

i need to loosen up my shoulders

[spice spire]

Im only gonna tear a major muscle once before I learn

[cunning needle]

[spice spire]

That’s a majority of what I stretch

My shoulders are infinitely more mobile than they were six months ago

[cunning needle]

nice

solid work mate

[frigid niche]

!racial

[empty hinge]

It’s in pins

[frigid niche]

Thanks guvnor

[gloomy heart]

@balmy condor top 3 monster zeros

[fading vigil]

how are we looking for season 2

[runic hinge]

Beautiful

[balmy condor]

White, green, strawberry

From best to 3rd

[gloomy heart]

does strawberry have a strong strawberry taste

or not rlly

[balmy condor]

Yeah

And idk, to me at least it isn’t like a chemical laffy taffy strawberry

It’s like a legit strawberry

Pretty good

[runic hinge]

I like purple

[bright tartan]

Alchemy

[rotund oak]

green tastes better but i could settle for that

[gloomy heart]

isnt green the original

that one is awful

[keen spruce]

mango monster gud

the turquoise and orange one

[rotund oak]

yup and it has alot of sugar

[gloomy heart]

ooo i wanna try it

my fav is peachy keen and white

[keen spruce]

peach gud

[jaunty sky]

I love the ultra red one

Not watermelon

But they don't sell it anymore

[rotund oak]

try some natural juice,its not that strong a dope but it wakes u up

[native heron]

anyone have the shiv/tea macro?

[hollow river]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[native heron]

ty

[balmy condor]

Green apple

Not original

I don’t drink sugar

[slate crown]

I don’t think I’ve had a soda in like 7 years

[ripe carbon]

they have no sugar original here in aus

[dawn seal]

HELLO

[bronze pike]

hemlo

[solar wyvern]

Holy fuck i knew you were based

Thoughts on "peachy keen"

[balmy condor]

meh

[primal jolt]

bros are we getting changes yet?

for next season

do i resub yet

no pins so i guess i got my answer

[jaunty sky]

Maybe they're cooking something and we see it sometime in January

We can hope

[primal jolt]

okay I'll check in a bit later

[pure moth]

next season is like 2 months away. no one knows anything yet

[balmy condor]

we know the tier set is utter dogshit

[subtle tundra]

Don't resub

[pure moth]

truee

[subtle tundra]

They won't do anything to assa

Vote with your wallet

Life is pointless

[low ruin]

quick Q:

Should we be using Blindside procs in aoe over FoK or is it negligible enough to not matter either way?

[subtle tundra]

HUH

[balmy condor]

you can use the blindside proc to refresh caustic I guess

but not as a main generator that sounds horrendous

[lyric coral]

yes

[bright tartan]

what's wrong with the spec, besides the bugs?

[subtle tundra]

insert 30 paragraph long rant

If you haven't liked playing assa before df, then my opinion would be wild to you

[bright tartan]

only played it for half the season, 20 apm on bosses in M+ is too boring tho

[subtle tundra]

You see, I'd like ic and/or spatter removed

[bright tartan]

then how would you deal aoe damage

[subtle tundra]

Rupture garrote ct

Like God intended

[bright tartan]

why do you want trash damage profile instead of literally the best

[balmy condor]

“If you haven't liked playing assa before df, then my opinion would be wild to you”

The prophecy

[bright tartan]

we are rogues not prophets

Varas go pickpocket someone

[subtle tundra]

Fatebound...

[bright tartan]

the forbidden hero spec

[tawny junco]

I Just got the finger from the isle, can i upgrade It to max possibile atm or Will I be 1 upgrade below?

[grim jay]

20 apm

[spice surge]

Green blade flurry

No bleed damage, only flurry

[bright tartan]

at least it feels like 20

[hearty reef]

Red blade flurry

[dense badger]

So is sub the new rogue meta in S2?

[hearty reef]

For raid who knows

Up to how really crap sins tier set turns out to be in practice

[rotund oak]

green apple is like

almost bitter

[dense badger]

If they ruin sin then brb uninstalling

[grim jay]

not even

it depends on tuning

not on just the tierset

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-tax-guy-verohallinto-crystal-ball-kristallipallo-future-gif-20470121

[grim jay]

that one is sour

if whispyr means the one I think he means its not green apple tho

its kiwi-lime

[lusty kraken]

damn you guys really want to go back into irrelevancy huh

[grim jay]

funfact

relevancy depends on tuning overall

not on single skills

[lusty kraken]

to be honest I don't like the devs giving every rogue spec bladeflurry

they could remove spatter

but leave indiscriminate carnage

[rotund oak]

kiwi is kinda funky i dont mind,green apple is like

harsh to drink

even to eat

my father used to eat coz its kinda ok for ppl with heart conditions

[grim jay]

I mostly ate green apples

my whey is green apple flavor

the red ones are too sweet sometimes

[rotund oak]

I eat starking ones,not the completely mature ones,they become very sugary

[spice surge]

Because i like dots doing damage

[lusty kraken]

the problem is they are unable to balance dot specs

[spice surge]

I know

[lusty kraken]

maybe they could soft cap dot damage depending on the number of targets, idk

[spice surge]

But it doesnt change the previous statement

[solar wyvern]

Remove spatter and makes dots do damage again. to balance this you're required to input a captcha code each tick. Thoughts?

[subtle tundra]

I'm literally a bot

I couldn't play

[royal lantern]

"sorry that my dmg is bad, was not sure if those 2 pixels still counted as a part of the bike or not"

[grand trail]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[orchid adder]

can someone please explain the pandemic mechanic to me? I don't feel like im doing it correctly or even understand it hehe

[royal lantern]

!pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[royal lantern]

but tl:dr

its just that some of the old dot timer gets transfered into new dots

every dot in the game has it, its not a rogue only thing

[orchid adder]

does the amount of combo points effect it? so if i have a max combo point rupture on the target and I apply a 5 combo point rupture on pandemic timing, am I just adding 30% duration to the 5 combo point and losing the max?

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/mega-based-mega-based-shitpost-gif-23772128

[humble verge]

wait where

[sharp viper]

yes, pandemic timing depends on the duration of the new buff/debuff

[humble verge]

new patch notes?

[orchid adder]

thank you

[sharp viper]

he is probably referring to caustic spatter for sin and nimble flurry for trickster sub

[balmy condor]

Yes, check war within alpha patch notes from July

[humble verge]

gaming

[humble verge]

ai karamba ok

[runic terrace]

Soooo, quick question: When I'm (nearly) full with energy, like with BL, do I finish with 5 CP or do I use another builder to 7 and finish then?

And what during regular play? Finish as soon as I hit 5 or build more?

[balmy condor]

You finish on 5

And normally you finish on 5

[humble verge]

5 and up

[sharp viper]

only if you count me down

[balmy condor]

And then like during CDs you finish on 5

And in aoe you finish on 5

And if you have supercharger, you finish on 5

And if you have darkest night you finish on 7 gottem

[humble verge]

just remember to count the fingers on your hand

5

or well if youre missing any or your hand is mutated, thats not my problem

[balmy condor]

Yeah I always look down at my keyboard after every mutilate to double check with my fingers

[humble verge]

good job whispyr

[orchid adder]

if youre not refreshing crimson tempest until pandemic, would it not be better to finish on 7 initially or still just 5?

[sharp viper]

maybe that's why you didn't kill queen yet

[humble verge]

[balmy condor]

:3 finish on 5

I will scream

[royal lantern]

:3

[sharp viper]

this depends a bit on context of content you are doing but most of the time crimson tempest lasts longer than needed, you don't need to max out the duration

[balmy condor]

No it doesn’t :3

Please shut the fuck up

:3

[humble verge]

dont listen to whispyr

hes just lying

finish on 7

never on 5

[subtle tundra]

5

[royal lantern]

he is losing it

[subtle tundra]

Have you finished?

[balmy condor]

Finish on 5 you absolute fucking apes I will beat the shit out of you with my bare hands so help me god

:3

[humble verge]

:3

[orchid adder]

sorry man i dont mean to frustrate you, it just feels counter intuitive so i just wanted to ask

thank you

[humble verge]

damn, dont look like there will be fireworks today

[balmy condor]

Not you

[humble verge]

its raining cats and dogs outside

[balmy condor]

Vaeira catching these hands

[sharp viper]

it's not you, it's us

[balmy condor]

You’re just asking questions

[orchid adder]

love u guys stay safe pls

[royal lantern]

its not you, its everyone else being dumb fucks

[sharp viper]

catching hands for saying there is no point in maxing crimson tempest duration?

[balmy condor]

Not if I have anything to say about it

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-11816971814746635421

catch this

[balmy condor]

Catching hands for what is the point of any of this other than raw confusion

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-cat-cute-cute-smile-cat-smile-gif-3506344065033604903

[balmy condor]

You don’t get to say “it depends” and then immediately follow it up with “it doesn’t matter” and then claim you said it doesn’t matter

That’s not words work

[sharp viper]

okay true, I can understand that

my bad

[humble verge]

whispyr answering questions from newbies, and then the next second later getting pushed mentally out by someone trolling in#assassination

[balmy condor]

Ur very cute though sepsis my beloved

[spice spire]

Need that

[dawn heath]

i finish within 5 :3

minutes

[balmy condor]

Call me the ex gf the way you boutta get clapped homeskillet

[royal lantern]

stop braging wtf

[balmy condor]

Incredible endurance

[spice spire]

If that were the case I’d be calling you Val because your cheeks would be getting clapped

[humble verge]

rookie numbers

[spice spire]

Get woke bozo

[humble verge]

i last 30

microseconds

[dawn heath]

goongodx

[runic terrace]

But your hands are so small and tiny, it would be like getting slapped by my little boys😁

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-mad-cat-cat-mad-cat-jealous-gif-23378592

[balmy condor]

Drive me to the parking lot of Nissan stadium bucko I gotta listen to that taytay

[spice spire]

I hope you drink the potion (in raid) twice

[balmy condor]

I have big hands though

[humble verge]

damn they fixed it

[royal lantern]

quake

can we get a good luck new years George pic? :3

[spice spire]

This was him last night happy NY

[royal lantern]

love him

[runic terrace]

Do you? On screen they look quite small- sorry

[spice spire]

Same

Haha it would be crazy if we got hand pics right?

[humble verge]

😅

[balmy condor]

Got them long ass piano player fingers yuh

[spice spire]

Maybe around a nice 6 inch long 5 inch around circumference cylindrical object

That would be insane

Lolololol

[balmy condor]

What

[humble verge]

what

the fuck

[slate crown]

dog?

[spice spire]

Sup

[balmy condor]

Bro knows what he likes I guess

Respect that

[runic terrace]

Me too, but I'm 6'5, so nothing unusual 😅

[humble verge]

6 x 5 inch thats crazy

[balmy condor]

Yeah okay you’re a giant

[spice spire]

Mf playing video games when he belongs on the court

[runic terrace]

Not that popular where I live unfortunately

[humble verge]

the White Mamba would tell you otherwise

[spice spire]

Ahh that’s unfortunate

[spice spire]

The who

[humble verge]

this guy

really old pic but

[spice spire]

That’s literally someone’s unc

[balmy condor]

2.5 paperclips horizontally is insane

[spice spire]

And you can’t convince me otherwise

[humble verge]

yeah hes 40+ something idk

but he still an nba champ somehow

[spice spire]

Boston is a bum ass program

[humble verge]

>least racist fanbase

[woven karma]

Random question but what Embellishment should i use when crafting neck for my assa rogue?

[balmy condor]

What notable sport team do you have in your area

[balmy condor]

None

[woven karma]

ah, does it not work on neck then

[humble verge]

no it does, but there are so many more and better embellishments

[balmy condor]

I mean you could embellish something on your neck but idk why you would

It’ll just be worse

[woven karma]

ok

ty

[spice spire]

Our hockey team is usually pretty relevant and our football team was the 1 seed going into the afc playoffs like twice in the last decade

Both are fairly relevant

[humble verge]

twice in the last decade

[spice spire]

They just suck this year

[humble verge]

yeah we only care about now

[spice spire]

Yeah then his dog ass 69ers aren’t relevant either and his opinion is moot get woke pal

Also I don’t even like the titans

[balmy condor]

Good excuse

[spice spire]

But my team infinitely more irrelevant

[balmy condor]

Predators are literally 29/32 overall

[spice spire]

Yeah I literally said “they suck this year” hello

Is this thing on or

[balmy condor]

They suck every year though

Titans suck every year too

Y’all got the grizzlies I guess they been aight

[humble verge]

ok but why did minnesota trade kat

im still tryna figure that one out

[spice spire]

They were literally the 1 in 21?

And predators are like playoff perennials until this year

[subtle tundra]

American sports...

[balmy condor]

And then what happened

[spice spire]

They just got bounced by Patrick mahomes

[spice spire]

Silence twink

Sorry you didn’t deserve that varas

[balmy condor]

1st in division then first round euthanasia

Nice

[sharp viper]

Go sports team

[balmy condor]

One time in the last 10 years

Also god damn I’m gonna rip these fucking tonsils out my mouth on my own get me a butter knife holy shit

[bright tartan]

carnage

[spice spire]

Also in 2018

[spice spire]

Just get them removed hello

[balmy condor]

I hate drinking, I hate eating, I can’t swallow without the entire right side of my face gettin numb

These mfers suck

[sharp viper]

probably costs like 150k$

MURICA

[balmy condor]

They are an important part of the immune system quake

[subtle tundra]

I need to be talked to like this by a dom woman

[spice spire]

I do not have them anymore

[balmy condor]

I just wish they didn’t hurt so fucking bad

[sharp viper]

you got plenty of other lymph nodes

[spice spire]

Because my adenoids or whatever carried step

[balmy condor]

What are you carrying step quake

[sharp viper]

My parents had my tonsils removed when I was a kid

[balmy condor]

I usually don’t have beef with them

[sharp viper]

but then again my immune system is absolute dogshit, so don't listen to me

[balmy condor]

But like 2-3 days ago specifically the right one turned into a bitch

Left one is fine

My whole face fucking lopsided

[balmy condor]

Sure

[sharp viper]

are you this attractive now?

[balmy condor]

No

I’m very ugly cause I can’t fkin sleep man

Every time I get tired I swallow and it keeps me up

[sharp viper]

good boy

I mean

Pain killers could help with falling asleep?

[balmy condor]

Yeh if it ain’t better tomorrow that’s the move

[slate crown]

same

[balmy condor]

NyQuil or some shit

[slate crown]

My insurance covered it but I also have good insurance

Recovery sucked but glad to have them gone

[balmy condor]

Call me lisonnas insurance the way I be covering it real good with my tiny deductible

Or whatever

[slate crown]

step whispyr that made no sense

[balmy condor]

Its 6am and I cannot feel the right side of my face I tried my best okay

[sharp viper]

yeah, if someone is from the USA I don't assume they automatically have insurance or a good insurance

[slate crown]

yeah, most don't for sure

and shouldn't be assumed

Also most don't have dental even if they have health, because for some fucking reason they're different

[balmy condor]

I’m dental

[sharp viper]

you mistyped mental

[balmy condor]

Cause I’m different

In the brain

[hearty reef]

?

[sharp viper]

insane in the membrane

due to tonsil pain

[hearty reef]

we posting celeb crush?

[balmy condor]

What

[spice spire]

Mine was uh.
20 years ago?

[balmy condor]

We’re talking about my tonsils fucking me up and lisonnas incredible insurance

[slate crown]

Mine was uh, at legion launch

whenever that was

[balmy condor]

Where in that are we horny posting

[slate crown]

I took off the expac launch for recovery and to play

[spice spire]

And there had to be 6 evidences of strep every year for 5 years straight

[hearty reef]

who said horny

[sharp viper]

He refers to me posting a natalie dormer pic probably

cause of lopsided

I should have gone with Forest Whitaker instead

@balmy condor

[spice spire]

Talking about the thrussy gets em going y’know

[hearty reef]

hey no judgment here

[spice spire]

2016 - almost a decade ago LE

[slate crown]

fuck

[spice spire]

I wasn’t even playing wow then pal

You’re cooked

[balmy condor]

When did wod release

[slate crown]

~2014

[balmy condor]

[slate crown]

Maybe late 2013?

[balmy condor]

Remember when we were mad about wod only having 3 raids

[slate crown]

I don't remember, one of those, it lined up with when I left college town for job

[balmy condor]

Good times

[slate crown]

I never was

I liked wod

[hearty reef]

wod on 10th anni

[slate crown]

I didn't mind wod's raids and content

[balmy condor]

What anni is it now

[hearty reef]

erm

try not to panic

i'm afraid it's been

20th anniversary

[spice spire]

I skipped soo - nyalotha

[balmy condor]

I’ve been playing this game for a decade dog

[hearty reef]

continuosly uninterrupted?

[sharp viper]

two decades here

https://tenor.com/view/savingprivateryan-ww2-old-soldier-matt-damon-gif-4203998

[balmy condor]

I took a break for crucible

[slate crown]

Same

[balmy condor]

Oldge

[sharp viper]

is it okay to call a person younger than you daddy?

asking for a friend

[hearty reef]

idk how much that lasted anyway im sorry

[slate crown]

If they're ok with it

daddy is a state of mind not an age

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/nodders-gif-26414892

[balmy condor]

Like 2 months idk

[balmy condor]

That’s why quake is a daddy

[sharp viper]

can daddy status be self-proclaimed or just assigned by others

[jaunty sky]

If u gotta tell others you're really cool are you actually cool?

[slate crown]

daddy is an identity like all others, we fans of self id here

[spice spire]

Hey

What the fuck man

[spice spire]

I self identify as a problem

[grim jay]

same

[spice spire]

You also self identify as a kitten

[fallow canopy]

same

[spice spire]

Hey king

[sharp viper]

I wish I was a kitten

[fallow canopy]

sup fellow king ready to meet 2025?

[royal lantern]

👉 #1080572530554835072

[spice spire]

You spelled meat wrong

But hell yeah brethren

[fallow canopy]

[grim jay]

@spice spire since you have no Mrs., I thought I could be your Mr. in the coming year

[ember mural]

[spice spire]

Not into men Unfort

But I can be ya feel

[grim jay]

I aint either

but sometimes you just gotta take life as it comes

[spice spire]

Damn call me life

[rotund oak]

Uwu so cute

[rotund oak]

✊

[rotund oak]

You need to earn it(then u should consider urself unlucky 😂 )

[calm grail]

Haven't been here in a week or so. Any new news?

[spice spire]

Yeah

Happy new year

Outside of that nah

[calm grail]

TRUE

You too man.

[sharp viper]

ask whispyr about the ring

[calm grail]

No, that's not news.

I want that man to stay sane.

[spice spire]

I don’t

[calm grail]

He needs time to mentally prepare for 11.1.

[spice spire]

But I’m a hater

[sharp viper]

you are way too late

[fallow canopy]

You know what they say, hater on the streets...

[rotund oak]

dog fathers cant hate u lie

[coral ibex]

what the fuck is up dennys

[spice spire]

I’d never hate ‘er in the sheets

True

[coral ibex]

amen

[dawn heath]

why am i more excited for next travelers log than the game itself

have i become a casual content enjoyer

[rotund oak]

tell me ur age so i can tell u when u will be

[spice spire]

Ahoymatey known transmog slut (they fiend for the mog)

[trim storm]

any1 here who actually using hekili addon and could send me import code ?:)

[eager condor]

empowering crystal with leech mythic, this better beat sackbrood 629

[rotund oak]

no it doesnt give it to me

(weird flex btw)

[atomic jolt]

guys I have a question

i have 599 ilvl

most of it is siren isle gear

should I put my items in catalyst for 2 or 4 piece?

or wait for better items

[pure moth]

Id wait personally. You'll be replacing things quickly depending on how much you run.

[past bobcat]

@slate crown did you ever post what settings you use for your wa size and style?

Doing some for my MW monk and want to copy the exact thing you do for rogue ❤️

[slate crown]

not sure what you mean beyond the wa itself?

like you can get my pack and look at the settings in it, unless you mean something different?

[atomic jolt]

im playing m+

but

idk

im not getting any items

[slate crown]

My display icons are basically always:
Icon - Zoom: 30%, Keep Aspect Ratio, Width ~35, Height~ 28, insert a border, 1px, color black, size 2 offset 1, place border under Background, and above everything else

[spice spire]

Okay but what’s your ideal font, size and style.

These are the real questions

[bright tartan]

times new roman

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/basic-thegoodplace-argument-gif-14723858

[slate crown]

My progress bars are almost always texture: Solid, Foreground color (pick a color), enable gradiant, horizontal, gradiant color a lighter shade of foreground, background color is same color as foreground but darkness slider near 0 (but not exactly 0).
Border 1px, color black (typically, sometimes it is an off-shade of the background or foreground color), size 2 offset 2, then make sure the border is placed above everything else (makes the content of the bar seem to "fit" better inside)

that's waht I can remember

Don't know if you were asking for something else but there's my answer

Oh, font I use is Fira Sans Condensed Black, usually size 14, size 16 for charges, sometimes size 18

[spice spire]

18 is wild ngl

[slate crown]

I used to use the default font

but thanks to @subtle kiln for suggesting the better font

[slate crown]

I think I only use 18 for the big energy number in the very center of everything

[spice spire]

Fair enough

TIL LE lore

It’s a good day

[subtle kiln]

ah font lore and WA design.

[slate crown]

don't be grumpy with me

I know you have assa muted

[primal yoke]

Went to Siren Isle to get my next ring ilvl upgrade, but no quest. anyone else have that issue?

[plucky pasture]

yo boyz any one know how to add deathstalker mark to plater some how visible? like color changing or big icon?

[spice spire]

He’s real for that

[spice spire]

Did last week’s weekly reset yet?

Usually early on there’s like a small desync

[quasi coyote]

i picked up every quest on siren isle think it just not here yet

[primal yoke]

oh people are saying you gotta complete the weekly, then it gives you a quest to go into storm and get it

[spice spire]

Ahhh

Hate that

[quasi coyote]

what 1 is the weekly called

[spice spire]

Into the storm or whatever

[pure moth]

Then burn chargers on tier. Will help with damage to help in dungeons. You prob have 8 charges?

[quasi coyote]

whats the prerequisite to into the storm i dint have that yet this week

i did that b4 tho i know what ur talking about odd

[gusty mirage]

imagine not having all the wow channels muted

[slate crown]

Best janitor, doesn't even have to see the messes to know they're happening

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-roll-dark-souls-roll-somersault-gif-26164281

[atomic jolt]

yes

should I burn 4 charges for 4 se t?

i mean i still have 599 ilvl

[pure moth]

Go for it. Will help damage as well. Hopefully you start getting some drops.

[past bobcat]

This is what I was looking for godbless

[atomic jolt]

aight thx

❤️

[pure moth]

You're welcome

[agile kestrel]

Mythic Ovi egg sims higher than dead-eye spyglass, but is it a gimmick?

[slate crown]

[fervent rune]

just got a M transmitter in vault. Do i just bind it to deathmark?

[spice spire]

I have no channel here muted 🙂

[runic hinge]

:3

[spice spire]

Yes sorry yes you do

[shy pecan]

some people are masochistic

[shy pecan]

Ikr

[pure moth]

I have discord muted.

[spice spire]

Yeah and I definitely am

[shy pecan]

[spice spire]

Good job with ur drafts last night btw ho

[shy pecan]

Ain't hard when you're passed one bomb and crack two others in the same colors

First game I just T6 Liliana and the OP scooped

[coral ibex]

what were you drafting

[spice spire]

Only time I beat that in draft was with a t5 nissa

Foundations

[coral ibex]

hows the limited environment

i dont really play draft

[shy pecan]

Just like any base set. Just fundamental drafting and you win games

4-3 first draft because my mana base was just basics and so got screwed with not drawing double black for some removal. 7-2 the second having Liliana, Twinflame, and Embercleave

[spice spire]

[coral ibex]

i'm just a simple commander/highlander player

i get confused when there's multiples of a card in my deck

[shy pecan]

I mean, limited is pretty much one-ofs... lol

I should get back into playing more limited though. Feel rusty

[heady elbow]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[fading vigil]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ds1NUwL9ejxPQz8hYkXP3a what's the move here boys, sim is telling me necklace over a 639 sacbrood

[static glacier]

you're making the wrong comparison

it should be crafted 636 neck + 639 sac vs 626 sac + 639 neck

you can craft a 636 neck no problems, sac is harder to substitute

[fading vigil]

I like your tinking!

let me check that too

[spice spire]

Your sim wanting haste crit gems is insane work

[fading vigil]

yea idk wtf

I just do what the computer tells me to do

and hope it works haha

[vapid geode]

is waywards lantern sim bait?

[fading vigil]

what's the item called to put a gem in your gear?

for the rings and necklaces?

[vapid geode]

jeweler's setting

[fading vigil]

ty sir

[fading vigil]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1W3jbRkBLZobwA6LDZ5j2W new sim now!

ty for the input haha

[coral ibex]

i keep getting dc'd when i aim the siren isle cannon too quick

literal multi dollar company

indie devs working from home

[gloomy heart]

vault
time

[desert spire]

When is the best time to use Ovi'nax's Mercurial Egg? Do I just use it with my skardyn's?

[coral ibex]

when you have less than 20 stacks

[desert spire]

So get a WA

Or make one

got it.

[true venture]

hello is there no ring upgrade ? this Week?

[spice spire]

You have to do the weekly first

Then you get the quest for it

[true venture]

kk

[gloomy heart]

i finally got myth pants

jesus

[gloomy heart]

which weekly

[coral ibex]

the one with the bar that takes a long time to fill

by doing activities

[spice spire]

^

[timber sage]

I just noticed that the top 2 assa rogues swapped to mag orc, surely the buffs dont make that big a diff

[timber sage]

Ive seen the pin, im just trying to figure out why he would swap. Only thing I can think of is hes trying to max out dmg

[spice spire]

Surely it’s not for 3 ilvl on the ring

[coral ibex]

surely not

[timber sage]

Wait lmao I wasnt aware, could u get an extra item after a swap?

[runic hinge]

faction change yea

[spice spire]

Racial also

[timber sage]

Oh man I just physically cringed

[spice spire]

Amen

[timber sage]

He got to 3700, good for him I guess

[tidal laurel]

hey guys. im trying to get into assassin coming from outlaw. and im struggling to figure this out. i have followed multiple videos and tried to get stats right as well. but i know for sure im messing up hard during keys. would anyone be able to take a look at my log and help a bit and point me towards the right path?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LNqgDVbzf3pFAav2?fight=20&type=damage-done

[pure moth]

Looking at the damage breakdown you're not optimally playing with spatter. It should be your top damage. Once your bleeds are out you mutilate a ruptured target to to use apatter and only mutilate once every 10 seconds to keep spatter going. Otherwise your builder is fok on 3+ targets and you should be doing fok>envenom into your primary target.

[cobalt sphinx]

Guys is the ring good

[pure moth]

Yes

[spice spire]

You’re also not using your cooldowns

And the few pulls I saw you didn’t launch from stealth then just bled one target

You have to have to have to have to rupture max targets to maximize our damage outputs

You can launch a Ct early

But scent is a big boon

[tidal laurel]

i should start marking my primary so i dont lose track of them to keep this going. i shall keep that in mind for the future runs. thank you!

[tidal laurel]

yeah there were many fights where i messed up on pulls and i thought i was in stealth. and i did not start with ambush as well. im trying my best to keep track of all the bleeds. and for the cd's i tried my best to keep them lined up with deathmark when i can. and once more during the cd. but i mess up on that as well

[spice spire]

Just send em

[pure moth]

Also, keep in mind once you have 5 bleeds you can go into the fok> envenom funnel because at that point you have enough energy.

[spice spire]

A mislaid cd is better than no cd at all

In a 25m key, you DM’d 7 times, kb’d 10, and vanish’d 4

That’s a lot of missed damage

But also like kriz said

From stealth you can just focus on target, get the bleeds out and then just sit on a prio target with our st focused CDs

[tidal laurel]

would it be worth giving up lethality to take without a trace? to try to get more bleeds out for big chain pulls?

[spice spire]

If you’re having issues sure

But lethality is more than fine

Even on a numbers game you didn’t hit vanish close to enough with one

[supple compass]

whats the general consensus about the tier set rn

[tidal laurel]

that is true.. im so used to outlaw with the CDR just to keep sending things out. and now im trying to be mindful but also make sure i use them but i dont use them at all...

[static glacier]

you don't apply deathstalker's mark

at the first pull of the key

first ambush of the key is at 1.13

[spice spire]

Next tier? It’s not even on PTR

It doesn’t look great

But won’t know for sure

[pure moth]

Pop them on cd so you can see the gain. Then you'll learn kinda where you can get away with holding them. But missing casts is the worst thing because you aren't gaining

[static glacier]

generally speaking sin's aoe dmg is pretty consistent and high with or without cds

our st is what really needs cds

and where losing casts will show

[tidal laurel]

i thought i did... i would need to be more careful on that... and for DM would i not need to send all the bleeds first before casting it?

[static glacier]

you need to be applying it early on, you're just losing DN procs / uptime on hunt them down dmg

both of which contribute to spatter

other than that I think you're likely muting too much in aoe

im seeing a lot of casts

[tidal laurel]

yeah.. i spammed the hell out of it..

[pure moth]

Doing that means you're constantly restarting spatter so that's why it wasn't doing much

[grim jay]

wish they would model more tiersets after you

so they would look fucking AWESOME

[static glacier]

it does

homie it's so SPOOKY

[grim jay]

the rng stuff is indeed pretty spooky

[grim jay]

the tiersets and the effect ring kinda already took quite a toll on my hope

[static glacier]

im talking aesthetics

the rng is w/e

[grim jay]

looks like an outlul set

so its bad

[static glacier]

nothing says sin can't wear longcoats

perfect place to hide daggers after all

[grim jay]

ye but the head

[static glacier]

more than anything it just doesn't fit sub

[runic hinge]

pistol in belt

[grim jay]

kinda screams captain

[marble hemlock]

bottom half is fine imo

[runic hinge]

PISTOL IN BELT

[marble hemlock]

i dont get the shoulders

with those weird almost feather looking things

would literally look better without it imo

[grim jay]

arent shoulders like 95% of the time bad

[marble hemlock]

ye

[static glacier]

they seem to have a thing for these type of shoulders recently

[marble hemlock]

cause every pauldron or shoulder set is "PUT MORE SPIKES/FEATHERS/DAGGERS/EFFECTS" on it

not recently

thats been the case for like 10+ years now

almost every set has space marine shoulders

[static glacier]

I remember this style of shoulders in s2 df

with feathers

[gusty mirage]

Didn’t ask

[spice spire]

Bro that’s crazy because I told ur dog ass anyway