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its not now. I just dd a lap and nothing is dropping. if its set to the internal WQ cooldown it wont be til reset
i dont know why everyone is still doing the excavation things rn
unless theyre holding onto the boxes?
i'm doing those to farm the currency
and buy warband gear
warband gear is veteran no?
so one of the best gems is the legendary skipper citrine. That has a chance to proc any of the other gems, even ones not equipped. So it has a 1/11 chance to proc the warqueen gem which we unlocked earlier that procs the gems of 4 nearby allies.
The warqueen gem is 1 proc per minute, but the skipper is 4 procs per minute, so you basically have a 4/11 to hit the warqueen once a minute, which makes the skipper gem essentially the warqueen gem at 36% value, on top of being able to proc all the other gems that just give you stat and do damage and whatever
so yes
that skipper gem is giga
and basically everyone will be wearing it, which will then give everyone a chance to proc the gem that procs everyones gems
and you're all gonna be RNG rolling to proc each others gems and it's super cool and totally not cooked beyond belief
that sounds really fun yes
also the legendary skipper gem says "150% effectiveness" but that doesn't work on the warqueen gem
but that's okay because the warqueen gem is also just giving a 30% boost undocumented
for no reason
that's a complete mess
but in practice we just play like always and wait for procs to proc
- Periodic Effects still not triggering gems
- Role nerfs for tanks/healers actually seem to work now
- War Queen and Skipper procs still give 30% more stat than expected
- Fathomdwellers snapshotting fixed, but uses the same mastery calculation as before (ignores 8 baseline mastery points & mastery% buffs)
- Storm Sewers still applies to pets.
for a throwaway patch it is very exciting how poorly implemented everything is
and how blizzards solution for timegated gems is just throwing them on a vendor

except they arent on a vendor yet
I think that's just supposed to be the weekly ones that wouldn't otherwise show up in the cavern events on the command table
game is incredible

Once I looked at 11.1's tier set bonuses where everyone gets casino buffs all the time, I figured none of this matters anyway
I mean
"Today, we’re working to update the game with a hotfix that will make all of the Singing Citrines available on Siren Isle, allowing players to acquire all of them in the current week."
"all of the singing citrines"
Is this pog or dog
they should unlock from the command table
so like ... the 1 gem?
but the table doesn't update until dailies
ALL of the 1 gem?
I'm pretty sure
what
Yeah not like the new ring was a casino as well. S2 looking fresh 
Which one are we missing thats good
all of them
they said this?
yes?
POG
Sorry was sadging bc my monster is empty
its a good thing this game doesnt have any REAL competition ... reminds me of picking cell carriers in canada
im doomed..
Do you rather dislike RNG style play and therefore prefer to avoid Outlaw and Fatebound? Too freaking bad, everyone gets a slot machine!
you can have this shitty carrier or this other really shitty carrier
blizzard has done a pretty good job masking how RNG the classes really are
but yeh this is uh
something
Will these missing gems make it usable or we still wait
it always surprises me how few people actually understand how rng it is
ofc
can't believe I'd say that I miss bfa corrupted gear
YAY
i hate this ring
i dont think anyone likes it
frost dk deathbringer is the most rng spec in the game atm
some people are ok with it bc they get ilvl on their alts
thinking about this ring is making me get warmer irl
like currently
dog ass content
lmk when update is out
even the "lower" rng specs like sub have like 11% dps ranges
wow is just inherently
a game of rng
I like it that way
you like luck being more important than skill?
no, just that everything isnt free or handed to us
I don't mind RNG to a certain extent
like gear etc
But this is getting out of hand
"i worked for this" bro you literally high rolled every crit
can't wait for fatebound in single target next raid with an RNG tier set
fatebound is like a 17% or 18% dps range
with tier and the 11.0.7 that number easily goes over 20%
maybe even 25% depending how awful the proc rates are
fun fun fun
do a pull, 2 mil dps
next pull played exactly the same, 1.8 mil
"what did I do wrong", hm.
whatever try again
2.2 mil

clown game
especially on short pulls like p1 queen wipes I love when I get the whisper from the other rogue in my raid "wtf how did you crank so hard on that pull"
and I have to respond with "idk I didn't do anything different"


yeh I mean if you're concerned about racials you just play regular orc though
Imagine being a racial meta chaser
yeh
the "better orc" is too ugly

they're identical just one of them is red
25% ... thats ... interesting
the red one has better hair styles
did you play assa during dragonflight S3
fair enough I guess
was 18%
about where fatebound is atm

and it's only gonna get worseeeeeeeeeeeeee
WAHOOOOOO
Yeah. I can only control what I can control

fere have you seen my masterpiece

can we like .... strike or yell or something? paladins get 1% of something weird and they go apoplectic
and blizz reverts it like the very next day
LMAOOOO
why the fuck do rogues get this kinda hate.
class with lower player count = less people going batshit crazy on 20 different social media sites at once = they do less panic reaction changes to a class
There were like two things under rogue. I'm used to just scrolling down and seeing it go straight from priest to shaman
crtl+f ROGUE->diablo4 rogue guide
the classic
so we suffer from being the victim of so many class blunders and nerfs that ppl dont even bother playing rogue anymore .... so we have even less say when they fuck something up...? Thats kinda depressing
its not the ONLY reason
but its a one why rogue gets overall less attention
and ye its kinda vicious circle
the class equivalent of battered wife syndrome

current snippit of guild chat
it blows my mind that deathstalker was added to alpha 7 months ago, and both of the damage choice nodes have not even gotten tuned a little bit
i mean, i dont really would change that much
my biggest gripes are: why do assa bleeds do so low dmg, and wtf is going on with our hero trees
anyone else having to spam this macro to get the potion to go off? just started happening to me recently
momentum vs blood is legit just the same talent but one is far worse
Just use the id
even just like
tuning the number up
on shit that is never played
get them even a little closer
but no
do nothing for 7 months
hero talent iteration is snails pace for no reason
yeah I mean they can do it for other classes
the fatebound changes we got were like
something
but they weren't really buffs

I want fatebound aoe
what's the id?
it just made fatebound in aoe go from giga omega ultra shit to just regular giga shit
the positive thing: because rogue is the least played class overall, you have a kinda easy way for raidspots, they are desperate for people that commit into the class 
I just want us to have moderately compelling talents... thats why ppl picked Deathstalker over fatebound. For class flavor
Do i want to be an assassin or some dude flipping a coin outside a 7-11?
hmmmmm
coin flipping is for pirates
i mean, most people pick deathstalker over fatebound cus they think deathstalker is stronger everywhere tbh
you see "wait fatebound is simming higher???" regulary here
but ye, the "fantasy" behind fatebound is just not very appeling to most, which is not really suprising
until the RNG makes it sim lower ....
sims are average dmg
the rng is calculated in
sims are not "lol fatebound only if it has god pulls"
fatebound in pure ST is just doing kinda fine and on average better then deathstalker
but if you add a 2nd enemy, it falls off HARD
cus they gave it a self nerf talent lol
Fatebound sums higher for me ST by like 2.5% lmao
2.5% is pretty normal
has anyone else noticed that if u meld into ambush u don't always get DSM?
Meld is inconsistent in itself, I wouldn’t be surprised
i didn't think you could meld to proc dsm
when i press meld for some reason i could press ambush but not stealth
u can
if u get the restealth off
oh
yes
meld allows for stealth abilities to be cast
but does not grant the benefits of stealth
Any theory crafters around know how much faster KB ramps if death mark is up?
interesting question
I thought most KB ramp was from auto attacks
so lets see
normally you have 2 poisons
and then you press deathmark
and then you have 4 poisons
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so I'm gonna say twice as fast
Auto attack poison application is affected by death mark too?
what
your poisons have a % chance to proc from a hit, correct?
so you have 2 poisons, when you auto there's a 30% chance to proc them or whatever your chance is at the time
if you have 4 poisons, you have twice as many poisons to proc
so next week, we get to use ring and balst
this week technically
Oh that makes sense
werent they gnna hotfix it
whenever the gems get added to the vendor
also yeah of course this won't work
or are they cheap
you just pressed meld and then insta smashed ambush
ye its actually macrod to press my stealth after pressing meld but it didnt work
cause i stood in the pack
its just this amazing bug in this key when i kill a mob i don't get my buff back
then i forget to press it
yeh but if you're gonna do that you gotta give it a second and smash your macro over and over
when does that go live?
it doesn't just insta go into stealth just cause you have it macro'd
supposedly hours ago, but the vendors haven't reset so who knows
Does meld trigger carnage / subterfuge or just enables stealth abilities like cheap, ambush, etc.
it procs everything
meld triggers the usage of stealth abilities
Interesting
if u sucessfully sget it off
it does NOT trigger stealth effects
Gotchu
you have to be in stealth for stealth effects
so meld -> stealth would work
meld on its own does absolutely nothing
no carnage, no mark, no master assassin, no imp gar, nothing
just lets you cast an ambush
And obviously in a key or such you can't drop combat to actually utilize it, correct?
Mostly just a pvp thing?
:0
any boss fight you are hard locked from dropping combat
on trash it's a 50/50 if the game lets you
cause any damage, any debuff, any combat event
So discount vanish outside of bosses then
will rip you out of meld
Ty, good to know
it is
insanely janky
even just being like too close to mobs
will break your meld
i swear to god
DSM just dissapearing
is so fucking tilting
esp whwen u dont notice it
which happends to me
M+ players love night elf though because they see stealth and ooga booga 
most of the usage for meld over the years has been to cheese targeted mechanics anyway
https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/jkfGqO5n4yqI7JWaM?invite=cr-MSw3WEssMTcyMzI0NTA1LA wtf happend here
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there's not a lot of utility in either nelf or dwarf this season
Would've mostly used it as a faux feign death if anything
compared to previous seasons
80% UI / 20% Game
1080p things
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what happened
my DSM just dissapeared
yea i see it now
the next pack i had no DSM
happends to me way too often
i dont get it back
it happends every time after you kill like stonevault first boss or after arakara first boss
u just dont get it back
for whatever reason
only reason i can find on the clip is that maybe it happened cause the mob died slightly before the envenom even though you still got it off, or maybe it's late and im tripping idk
and perhaps that queueing bugged it out or something
im just assuming here
nothing new there though, I think thats been the case for a while
what about the 2nd clip though
you have DSM on orange, orange dies, you get DN
mfers will call sudden demise a bait talent and then rip a full 7cp darkest night envenom into a mob with 0.2% hp

yeh I mean not you specifically
but that's a common thing
you got sudden demise'd on your mark I'm guessing
how is sudden demise bait hmmmm
but ye it was probably wasted
can happen where you envenom like that, and sudden demise triggers
and you lose it
I think that's the interaction
makes more sense
so picking sudden demise is bad is what you are saying
mplussers be yapping about how the execute effect on it is pad bait bad awful when it's just free damage and also not accounted for in sims so any comparisons they're simming aren't even using the execute
so we re forgetting 10% bleed dmg, noted
although its nice
yeh I mean same logic with "my boss damage is so bad I wish we had more boss damage" and then dropping sudden demise for sanguine blades
the thing is
you can't polish a turd
our st is already garbage
we may as well just play to our strengths
if they want more st, just go ttk i guess
I mean then don't take ttk
they're thinking of the omega sanguine blades value when you pull with boss obviously
then why are people taking ttk
and not taking without a trace
those are playing to our strengths
but clearly polishing the turd is acceptable when it's other talents
i mean
idk the wat thing is weird
TTK is not only for ST?
it's only like 1% st increase
im not sure what u mean
2% dslice decrease for me
play m+ for 16h a day and you will get it
I mean that's why people take it
there are better options for overall
like sudden demise
you don't just take ttk for fun
the argument is boss damage bad, so I take ttk
But ttk isn’t even GIGA gains without dashing right?
i like to take TTK in Mist and & NW specifically because those bosses have damage amps/burn bosses where you need burst
and TTK is good there

my logic is it's more funnel
i just play sub for those bosses 
i need a bigdog add to die, not the pissy low hp mobs around it that are proccing sd
u kind of need to play TTK and MA for mist first boss
its very bad for the burn
if u dont play those talents
ttk is just kinda fine without dashing
felt really sad i had to play iron wire today
its probably like a 5% dps overall loss
real, i also hate helping my team
just drop sbs and doomblade
its more like
dashing gets a good boost with ttk, but ttk doesnt need dashing to be good
Real I also hate utility
just wait 2months and utility is giga important again
First two months of 11.1 round and round we go
m+ parses 
its not about bragging like raid
its just to compare to other people to see how much dps ur doing really
but
gems are dropping from the excavations now
can you check the vendors
they took out the turtle
a turtle made it to the water 😢
will check in a minute
You can excavate my gems
Coulda been kb
the turtle man sold me the legendary gem
he is him
how are you in front of sikran
others dont appear to be in
tanks are fucking braindead
nice
hit the butt budd
literally faced sikran into everyone
lets calculate how much more dps i would do with sudden demise
everyone above me is playing no ironwire
padders
what are we looking at
4.5% dmg gain
all secondaries gem just dropped from event finally
fuck
i wanted to buy the pink skirt from the vendor
fuck the ring
which vendor has the gems?
i only see one
gotta earn all of them once
did you unlock the gems
idk
wdym you don't know
go do the events
go do the mission table mate
you have to unlock the gems
they aren't just on the vendor for free
the legendary one is but the rest arent
literally takes 5 mins
5 minutes i could have spent in dornogal
based
thats my m pluser
m+ is so based
Y
ty
are u still playing the game
my group members have finally finished their schooling/on break from work and such so we about to start gaming
also i am now in enh prison
my boy who's played it before thought he was gonna enjoy it
honestly
turns out he doesn't like stormbringer and also has a 638 dk/boomie
when u get to 17s
rogue start to become a liability
not good enough
unless ur like kush or casual
our single target is just so fucking trash its tragic
yea that's why i was hoping to play outlaw some keys since their st is insane
but ah well
i just missed the stormbringer's event ree
it bugged the last 2 times it came up i think youre good
what is stormbringers event
man, i downgraded my rash parse
ive played enh before and its a fun spec, at least its melee and not boomkin or something miserable
enhance has kinda high skill ceiling ngl
sadge
we can get all gems this week? or only 3?
whenever hotfix drops
its out
balanced spec

what a gamer xd
y
i have a clip of me doing 4million dps on first boss in mist in 580 ilvl
on my enhance
crazy class
at 605 with no tier and 2 darkmoon decks i nearly beat my peak dmg in stonevault on my 637 law
was wondering the same thing
i didnt get my fathomdwellers maaan
it took a couple attempts for it to actually give it
but it did work eventually
so just keep running it, do you have to actually submit or is that just triggering for the zone?
ive assumed the latter
so u dont need to spend any currency?

u just do these events for the gems?
where do i get those 2
for all of them?
prob just catch em on rotation
all except legendary
how do u get legendary
i didnt even spend money on the events i just ran and did them and it gave it
turtle vendor
is it ex pensive
50 of the currency, no
legenddary skipper's?
yea
do yall think it's even worth doing splatter on second boss for raid
I got some gems for you right here
yes,its 50 like the others that you can buy
yea why not

idk i just got the ones i need
got all 12
its happening guys
why cant i get it
is that after stormbringer
u need rpe
how much rep
but the turtle randomly had legendary skipper on him when ive never gotten it before
fathomdwellers 2nd attempt still didnt get
this is bis?
@fresh kelp whochj vendor has the legendary gem cant see it in the vendor
yes papi
taljori
the guides have the bis gems listed in like 5 places
TURTLE MAN
i dont see it mentioned 3 times here but ok
any updates on bis gems for sin?
there are in fact, more pins
and its been mentioned for the past like 2 weeks
turtle guy in the camp hes on a raised platform
there's a turtle??
yes i know but i cant traduce to spanish this names
i see
tortollan
(I haven't been to the island yet)
xD
I havnt checked, what makes the Legendary Skipper so good for everyone
tyty
Sims higher
Bigger number better person
is the mastery still snapshotting when u apply the gem?
so u want to pop skardys etc
to get more stats
thank fuck
but fathomdwellers also doesn't account for the base 8 mastery points atm
thank you sir
for fun
my secondaries seemed to go down abit when equipping the ring
3rd fathom attempt this shit is borked
Random and uncontrollable events are fun game mechanic just like when my parents divo…
the one that picks your highest secondary does still appear to snapshot btw
if ur trying to snipe a specific stat
i guess its random if you get the gem?
it shouldnt be its probably just too many people trying to get it at once
0 problem with the other gems
6 poop gems drop for me then fathomdweller's bugged. i just wanted my gems and then do m+ 😦
yeah ive tried to get fathom dwellers 4 times now
Fathomdweller eventually dropped for me. Took like three times
they're all on a rotation
you can't really "miss" them
it'll eventually just spawn it
seems like the cave instance bugs out which is what makes it not drop
real shit?
i didnt get fathomdweller wtf
I tried for Stormbringer's and it didn't give it either
what's the bug
its not 100% drop chance?
legendary skipper's was also randomly on the turtle for me
The rock dude seems to have issues dropping the gems he's rotating in
Anyone just not getting gems to drop?


i didnt get fathomdweller
yeah currently its bugged out for me, wont let me contribue to the event
Where’s fathomdweller come from?
all come from events
except legendary its from vendor
yooyoyo fathom event up
pog
So I just gotta get lucky
no u just have to do all the events that drop epic gems
and eventually the one u want will be there
I am... It isnt dropping lol
I got 3 out of four!!!
idk just try getting it to drop?
this channel always has 5 pins for the same answer
is it simming better
i can't read period
yo this is bis, now read another pin to know where the bis is bis at
and where the other bis is good at u need to read the 3rd pin
4th pin explains the bis gem and where u have to place it
zeross vs whispyr is something I'd love to see
immovable object meets unstoppable force
u need to make a new rogue

i cant even contribute to events even though i have 3k iron lol
rock guy has to be bugged, he aint dropping shit
ye
All is dropping for me
bet
im gonna try it on my alt, that i unlocked the island on first and see if it drops
I refuse to argue with dumbfucks
we tried this like a couple days ago
i refuse to argue with a 5 pin placer for the same topic
ain't worth the loss of my brain cells
yo can't wait for the 10 pins for the new mythic mount coming up in 11.1
how to acquire the mount
first pin go to the raid

9 more steps
they should buff fatebound so i can just gamble even more next tier
damn wtf, i sim at 1.95 as Sin
huge
nah my sub rings were just hot dogshit
hast/vers
sadgeers
damn, how'd yours go 645
it just dropped? not from a quest?
poggers in the lair
from a rare
yeah
how big is the upgrade for ring?
i don't
did it sim for yall
i'm was just farming the regular gems and it dropped
guys which vendor would be selling fathomdweller gem?
cuz i think the guy isnt gonna drop it
i think it's angorla
ye i guess she doesnt have it
they only sell it if you have earned it
yeah
how did u guys get urs from
spam bug report for it
collectively
guildy says they got it on 4th kill, i didn't :Shrug:
someone mentioned that if the add isn't killed within a certain time frame
it'll bug
sin sim is almost done
the ilvl upgrade item dropped from a rare
dslice 
then ill go back adn grind
ring is back lfg
did they stop droping
how long did it take you to get?
holy fuck everyone simming LOL
why do sims when u can math it out yourself
did they stop all the events spawning lol
why are we simming if the ring that's an upgrade is an upgrade
legit i wanna know if the ilvl upgrade thing is a bug or not
or is supposed to be a rare drop from rares
it's an alt catchup bug
no clue
Shouldnt this ring be increasing my mastery a whole bunch
uhh
Wait I just cant read
bro did u do the isle intooduction thing on a alt? or how did uget this
fathomdweller and stormbringers should be like a combined 2500ish?
did the intro with an alt
but not many quests
has anyone managed to get skippers yet
yes
on the turtle vendor
you buy it from the turtle vendor
killed this mf like 5 times and no gem yet
took me 4 goes to get it
i did do another gem inbtween 3rd and 4th
maybe u need to get a gem drop from another then go back to it? dunno
incredible game
0 for 5 on fathomdwellers very cool game
is seabed or skippers better?
tried contributing to the event itself
That damn ring is making my sims really confused
man i wanna know how this bug works
Stupid rental gems
well i got fathomdwellers 1st go lol gg
need to upgrade my ringie boy
think it’s quit wow time

4th guild disband in a row
into shit ring patch into shit tierset patch
simply cant do it.
🫡
my ring is proccing windsingers and its not even slotted
have you read the legendary skipper gem
that trinket has leech on it by default
oh
if the raid looks like it has ridiculously good bosses maybe but that’s it
LOL
i have like a gf now and other games to play i need to enjoy life.
blizzard entertainment are scum
Am i supposed to tick the Only 4+ color when using the culminating gem for sim? I just realised it now
yes
speaking of we say 1/11, legendary skipper can proc the flat Master buff..? or only the gems that have an activation
what do you mean tick?
yep, it can proc fathomdweller and give you 15 seconds of mastery
i think maybe the bug is that u shouldnt upgrade ur ring or some shit and kill rares
So much rng, I'm almost sad we wont be wearing the ring with that new tier set in S2 for long, I'd like more RNG! /s
and i think its too late for that
what guild
always use
what is ur rogues name?
Wrisks
ya lmao
xd
not maining rogue is based
not maining wow is based
based
Is some of the drops for gems bugged ???
do i need to have the gems unlocked in order for them to be triggered?
or does it just trigger any gem regardless of equipped status and regardless of unlocked status
yeah, you gotta do the event over and over until it drops
:)
any gem
fully random 1/11
roger
Do we have a "list" of who the bosses drops what gems ???
every other gem 100% drop but the one we need 4th attempt 🙂
any1 having problems to drop the rock rare gem?
poe2
Seems like the rock dude gem is the one people have problems with >_<
:worldofwarcraft:

how long did it take you?
freedom
uh, like 15 min
GJ
Whispyr why do you hate 11.0.7
Nope
yeah figures
Thats why I ask
Cringe
did you play 10.0.7?
Ring good at least?
with the onyx annulet
Yes
yeah so it's just that but worse
Nice
dude u just buy it
Ill be back in 11.1 then
you want this gem
to randomly rng into this gem
and then you're pogging
otherwise it's just a ring with a bunch of secondary stats
i assume running warqueens natty isnt good, but is that even simmable
yeah
small indie company etc. I've killed it 20 times too
from the rock rude
has anyone gotten fathomdwellers after like 6+ kills? Everyone saying they got them all hasnt said more than 4 kills
natty is just worse than legendary because the proc rate on warqueens is bad and the proc rate of legendary is really good
but yes
you can sim warqueens
@balmy condor can you give me my thistle tea role? It fell off QQ
me
Fathom took me 5
we don't have thistle tea role
the gems dont even show up as a possible reward on the map either
going for kill 7 now...
F
Someone in my guild said they think the loot rolls for you as the cave spawns. Every time he went there the map didn't show the gem, until the time he had it drop.
Anecdotal, but worth looking at I guess
how tf are people simming 2mil
dungeonslice
its showing the gem every time and just killed rock dude 7 times no drop
yep
OHHH i thought it was ST haha
great game
you need the bonus objective to pop up from what i can tell
what is ST sim?
only seen it pop up for the other 2
mine? or like what
My ST is 1.844
Ima try relogging
yeah I'm like 1.85 or something
That's what I'm at
yeah that's reasonable
missing a lot of gear
I'm 637.81. Trinkets are gonna make a big difference
that's also caustic
Ahh yeah, my 1.844 is Caustic also. Could be higher I guess, not concerned about it lol
I think if you didn't get teh gem early on you're cooked
seems like the bonus objective is broken
lemme check with internal
relogged, left zone, still not poping up as bonus objective
wheres the fathom gem from?
the mission table
a hot fix
Ima try a diff toon that hasn't done weekly
wait are we simming single target
I forgor
so wait, what are we simming I want in too XD
oh also @balmy condor i finally got CE, ty for all the guides and tips
yes ST haha
np, gratz
That damned Legendary's skipper onne
so i'm not too far behind

I mean yeh you're 630, that's not too many ilvl
@ 638.6
idk why was i able to buy legendary skipper from the turtle
w/e have them all now
hehy champion did you know it needs to drop before you can buy it?
I got the bonus objective when i swapped toons
I think the 3 from the turtle are the weekly world quest
they just slapped them onto the turtle
why they need to have 8 vendors for all this shit
baffles me
but ya know whatever
are the gems intended not to be garunteed from the events?
or bug
ive done this one event 3 times in a row and it hasnt rewarded it lol
i bought my legendary from turtle, and got the other two one shot from the event bosses.
if I didn't have so much god damn haste I might be able to get fatebound to work again but with the ring giving so much mastery my sim between deathstalker and fatebound is equal again
bug
it's completely bugged
what is the name of the turtle
sigh
I just did all 3, a few moments ago within about 30mins









