assassination

[royal lantern]

man, by that logic, pokemon mystery Dungeon is like m+, cus you go into a dungeon with a time limit, defeat enemys and a boss at the end

[novel star]

based on watever area ur in

[royal lantern]

thats a REALLY big stretch lol

[novel star]

no point in comparing them directly tho

[midnight mist]

We were talking about

Like your whole point is

People don't want to do m+ type content

But I don't see how m+ is that different from these type of games

It is different

But not THAT different

So that people would just refuse to play it

I think the issue with m+ is the framework

It's inaccessible

Both with gear etc

Fomo requirements

[royal lantern]

can i say quickly once again that arpg is such a Horrible name for those type of games and idk why it became the norm

[midnight mist]

And lfg

Etc

[royal lantern]

they are very very very very different lol

[novel star]

shrug

[royal lantern]

like, who looked at D2 back in the days

and said

"action rpg"

[midnight mist]

Idk I don't see it

Its instanced kinda solo PvE dungeon type content

There is differences of course

Otherwise I would be playing diablo

Instead of wow

But it shows that people are willing to do these type of content idk

[gusty mirage]

well blizzard for one

[novel star]

[royal lantern]

it comes from them?

[gusty mirage]

no

but they labeled it as such

[royal lantern]

thought it was one of those stupid "fan names" that became the norm

aka metroidvania

or souls like

[tawdry kindle]

what else would you call it

[gusty mirage]

souls games are also arpgs

[royal lantern]

idfk

[gusty mirage]

[royal lantern]

arpg is such a wide term

[gusty mirage]

just like mmo rpg

it's the overall genre

with subgenres

[royal lantern]

the good ones (none)

and the bad ones (the rest)

[lusty kraken]

@royal lantern seems like I was right about the 6 weeks thing

who is the redditor now

[royal lantern]

and Hi oxi btw

[gusty mirage]

[midnight mist]

Hi oxi

Long time

Daddy uwu

[rotund oak]

🫶

[placid radish]

they didn't call it anything
it's like with the word "medieval"
it wasn't used up until the late middle ages

[slim pebble]

I’ll do better dadd… I mean bro

[spice spire]

Don’t tell this to me

[gusty mirage]

Brevik literally set out to create a turn based RPG

[spice spire]

Tell this to Hilsh

[gusty mirage]

but okay

those are his words not mine

[placid radish]

that's true

but diablo turned up to be something different in the end

[crimson zephyr]

there are 7 mobs, you open from stealth and spread your garrote to 3 so 3/7 have garrote, now if you press garrote again on a target with garrote, will it spread to 3 new ones or just 2?

[limber lion]

2

So you'll have 5 mobs with Garrote

And if you Garrote your main target again, all 7 will have Garrote on them

[stark scroll]

get one of those mouseover if available macros else hit target macros and you can easily do a more efficient spread

[limber lion]

Well on 7 targets it doesn't matter if you swap or not

You still have to press Garrote 3 times

[crimson zephyr]

I do have those since a few days and its kidna the reason I ask ^^

[limber lion]

It only matters on 6 targets or 8+

[stark scroll]

yeah but if you gums get ripped up and your roots softened then you will be in trouble

[crimson zephyr]

so I have 1/2 subterfuge atm. If you have a big ass pull you could bleed every mob but is it worth it or do you tell yourself after 6 targets, you just go into aoe rota?

[stark scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-critics-choice-awards-side-eye-confused-clapping-gif-14741917063569043913

[crimson zephyr]

also if you have a big group that lifes long, let's say 6-7 mobs, do you spend 6 gcds just spreading bleeds again?

[limber lion]

You want to spread 5+ Ruptures for maximum Scent

Garrotes don't really matter and you want to press your cooldowns asap

[crimson zephyr]

Scent?

[limber lion]

Scent of Blood

[rotund oak]

stacks

agil per stack

u need 5 of them

[crimson zephyr]

ah the agility thing

[limber lion]

Yes

[stark scroll]

NO, Get your agi buff from bleeding thr goup but then you are already late and need to get into your even

[limber lion]

The talent that you should be playing

[placid radish]

scent of blood is giga important

[crimson zephyr]

ok I see - there's also something that funnels more dmg to main target based on bleeds right?

[limber lion]

Doesn't matter

[stark scroll]

THats why you need to tricks and prepull to get early start on bleeds so your dam is coming same time as the teams

[rotund oak]

thats singular focus from deathstalker

and funnels all ''aoe'' dmg iirc

but should ask whispyr for specifics

[limber lion]

Lol

Not again with the Whispyr specifics

It just funnels all damage that you do to other targets

But it doesn't matter

And you don't care about it

[crimson zephyr]

so prio 1 is 5 rupture for the agi buff. garrot is nice for silence but the garrote dmg doesn't matter? doesnt interact with anything?

[limber lion]

And don't play around it

[limber lion]

Yes

[stark scroll]

Whispyr of Recovered Mental — Yesterday at 3:29 AM
how is applying 1 bleed to everything and spamming envenom fun?

[limber lion]

Garrote is good for energy, but because we play Scent permanently, you don't even care about that

You just use the Ruptures for energy instead

[solid venture]

!wa

[limber lion]

!wa

@vestal wren Moroes sleeping

[solid venture]

moroes plz

[crimson zephyr]

care to elaborate?

[limber lion]

Rupture and Garrote both work with Venomous Wounds to give you energy

Previously we used Garrote mainly for energy because it's more efficient than Rupture

But because we play Scent of Blood, we don't need the extra energy from Garrote as we're saturated from the 5 Ruptures that we spread

[stark scroll]

sin is such a boring class lol

how have i played this everyday for four months

[crimson zephyr]

ah I see

[limber lion]

Make it 10 years

:-)

[crimson zephyr]

so if I dont wanan silence anything, there isn't much point to garrote other than ST

[limber lion]

No

And in single target you maintain it for the energy mainly right

[spice spire]

Make it 20

[limber lion]

Because you only get one Rupture and one Garrote

[limber lion]

As if

[spice spire]

Yeah pre mop I definitely never played assassin

Fake one trick tbh

[fierce sigil]

Whaaaat…
Assa ist cool af… 😜 Not as Boring as sub and Not so bloated Like Outlaw.
Assa ist the best Rogue specc imo

[crimson zephyr]

outlaw needs to be outlawed hehehe

[limber lion]

I only started playing Assa like a degenerate back in Legion

Played rogue in Cataclysm, but other random bullshit in BC

[spice spire]

I still liked myself (retired) in legion.
Played combat in cata until daggers

[royal lantern]

well, had my on and offs, but playing Since TBC and Assa is my main spec since roughly....MoP i think?

[spice spire]

But then started healing lmfao

[crimson zephyr]

lifes though sometimes

[quiet oar]

I liked you since i saw you the first time

[limber lion]

Very good, probably would have been for me as well if I played during MoP

Didn't play WoW at all in MoP or WoD

[royal lantern]

tbh, during SL my mainspec was Outlaw

[spice spire]

Never healed again

[royal lantern]

you can throw stones now

[spice spire]

Dead to me

Blocked

[quiet oar]

Based

[crimson zephyr]

so how come garrote is in the opener of wowhead's m+ rota?

[limber lion]

I prog'd SLG as Outlaw and did one clear as Outlaw in SoD but then never touched it again

[royal lantern]

was the only rogue spec that was not 100% garbage at SL launch (assa got a 40% aura buff, rember? ), and SL outlaw was my fav version of outlaw gameplay

i REALLY dont vibe with DF/TWW outlaw gameplay

[limber lion]

It is used to generate energy quickly so you can spread Ruptures and get into cds quicker

[spice spire]

Ceveriontwo remembers

[limber lion]

idk outlaw was just too easy

[stark scroll]

It may be the best but that doesnt make it any less boring

[limber lion]

too boring

[crimson zephyr]

dont think energy's the problem at the start no? but I guess cp?

[limber lion]

one clear was enough

[limber lion]

It is

No

[quiet oar]

I played sub mostly i think

[limber lion]

If you don't get your garrotes up, you starve immediately

[spice spire]

Bro only 95’d the grue. Was washed Smdh

[limber lion]

If you want CP, you press FoK

[quiet oar]

Season 3 Was Outlaw

[limber lion]

We weren't allowed to pad for the best powers :/

[spice spire]

:/

[limber lion]

Had to use whatever we got

[spice spire]

Fake WF guild :/

[limber lion]

Gg

[spice spire]

Need that colour speed run tech

Of spending an hour getting perfect powers

[limber lion]

30 mins rerolling powers

[spice spire]

For a 40s fight

[limber lion]

Oh yeaaah

Good stuff

[crimson zephyr]

how do you starve? If I open with fok and just spread 2 ruptures so all 5 targets have it have pretty good energy reg.

[stark scroll]

huh

open with fan of knives

now thats something

[limber lion]

It's just more efficient to Garrote to immediately get the energy regen from a single ability than spending time generating CP and potentially only getting 1CP from a FoK

[crimson zephyr]

yeah just assuming garrote didnt exist

[limber lion]

You cannot guarantee getting 5+ CP from a single FoK both times

But you can guarantee spreading 3 Garrotes and then getting close to energy saturation immediately

From a single button press

[crimson zephyr]

ok thanks

[limber lion]

Nothing would suck more

Than you pressing FoK 3 times

and getting 1 CP each time

And then you're just staring the enemy down and waiting for energy

on a pack of 17 mobs

[royal lantern]

YEHA, IMAGINE THAT HAPPENING :)))

[crimson zephyr]

ok thanks a lot

[limber lion]

Exactly

[royal lantern]

or having DN up and needing 4x mutilate :))))

[limber lion]

Exactly

That's why you gotta have enough energy to spam that shit

[quiet oar]

Und than get it parried by queen, because she can parry with her ass

[stark scroll]

LOL

[spice spire]

Hey what’s dn?

[quiet oar]

[stark scroll]

@ whispyr and ask him

he is always very helpful when I have questions!

[spice spire]

@balmy condor what is DN, king?

[rotund oak]

[quiet oar]

[rotund oak]

take cover

[stark scroll]

Maybe DN means dungeon

[spice spire]

Surely

[rotund oak]

this is gonna shockwaves

[stark scroll]

No that doesnt make sense

[quiet oar]

Diese Nüsse

[stark scroll]

Whispyr of Recovered Mental — Today at 6:01 AM
What am I explaining

[vestal wren]

he is running, maybe the server latency was bad

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[stark scroll]

hi fuu

[vestal wren]

hey, whats up

[stark scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/ceramic-scary-cat-im-bad-hiss-arched-back-gif-15455192

[warm vortex]

Yo Assa bros
Any ideas how someone could make money in wow atm
Got to the point where I can make tier 3 potions without concentration but buying the mats and making the potions isn’t a profit
I could try making the glass on an alt if

[limber lion]

Buying a WoW token

boosting

[fallow canopy]

hm at this point of the season, boosting/carries

[rotund oak]

boosting keys or blacksmith(alloys or frameworks sell good) or raw material farming(druid:herb/mining=>finesse tools/enchants and bountiful harvest/ironclaw enchantment

[coral ibex]

if you can’t make more than like 300k/hr it’s time to swipe

[warm vortex]

Fair

Idk if I’m good enough to boost keys, I’m 3K but don’t have a team

[rotund oak]

dont need a team,join a community my man 🙂

[warm vortex]

I just don’t wanna run out of money

[rotund oak]

raw material farming does something like 50k/h

idk if u can consistently make more if u dont have all profs

[warm vortex]

I might look into that then :D

[rotund oak]

i can do about 400k in 3-4hours but got all profs

[warm vortex]

I mean
Next patch I can prolly make most armor and weapons at R3

[rotund oak]

yup best thing u can do for fast profit

i can do everyhting now^^

ez

[warm vortex]

Uhhh sap

What sever are you on

[rotund oak]

im on 2-3 but allie side on ravencrest

[warm vortex]

That EU or Us

[rotund oak]

EU

[crimson zephyr]

no idea, you make money during 2 weeks of exp release and be set. read a bit in the woweconomy discord from time to time and subreddit

[warm vortex]

Yea

I mean I could probably just advertise that I’m making like

Leather armor, plate armor and shiz

[crimson zephyr]

sure too much hassle tho

[coral ibex]

if i was going to work for my wow gold i would boost for sure

at least you get to play the game

[raven vapor]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling wax:

• Can be pickpocketed from kobolds in e.g. The Ringing Deeps. (needs The Final Candle questline completed.)
• Only use it on one weapon. (does not stack)

[dapper cradle]

How much is the gilded discount?

For the 636 achievement

[golden loom]

its from 15 to 10 right?

[dapper cradle]

If it’s 10, that’s pretty sweet

Is it for all crest levels

Or just gilded?

[golden loom]

ye I mean you have the previous discounts already by that point

[dapper cradle]

Oh derp ye you right

Ty king

[vapid shore]

How does one go about joining a boosting community?

[fallen patrol]

I have a question for anyone willing to help me out. I recently started playing assassination along with another guildy. I have a few iLvls on him but he seems to always finish stronger than I do on any bosses we parse on. My opener seems to be stonger but he will just pull on me a pass me when the fight finishes. If anyone is willing to help I would apprecaite it.

[normal mist]

Did you read the guide?

[fallen patrol]

Yessir..

[dawn heath]

new helm

[spice spire]

Sounds like it’s log review time

[dawn heath]

mastery fiend

[spice spire]

[stark scroll]

?

[dawn heath]

just crafted this to get rid of the haste on the helm

sikran neck is all the haste i need

[fallen patrol]

Yep.. I've been comparing us in different fights just not sure why some of his things are just higher than mine, while others are not.

[spice spire]

Post logs

And we’ll look

[stark scroll]

post logs

[spice spire]

[stark scroll]

LOGCHAMP

[fallen patrol]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/9x8YHRvjAyZqMLVm/self?fight=30%2C30&type=damage-done&source=250%2C44

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/9x8YHRvjAyZqMLVm/self?fight=33%2C33&type=summary&source=250%2C44

One for ST and the other for MT.

< nostepbro

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-for-something-captain-kirk-william-shatner-star-trek-the-original-series-gif-23503712

[eager root]

I have a 636 everforged stabber as an OH with ascendence. I have a 639 blood kissed kukri as a MH.

I got another blood kissed kukri last night but even when adjusting to Dawn thread on my sims the everforged stabber is a lot better. Is the stabber out actual BiS OH?

[fallen patrol]

Not sure if he's just getting more envenoms off or if they are doing more damage individually.

Our stats are also wildly different.

[spice spire]

Step Rogue Whatbare you doing

[sharp viper]

for raid ST yes, if you want to do m+ ascendance buff sucks hard

[eager root]

Thanks so good to have an M+ set and raid set

[dawn heath]

be me

never loot queen ring for 20 weeks

tried to buy it for 5 times it dropped offer over a mil each time

now i don't need it anymore

[sharp viper]

!wa @fallen patrol

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[static glen]

I have trouble dotting every mob and being able to target the correct priority mob, any help? is it suggested to use some sort of nameplate addon or macro to help targeting be easier?

[manic quartz]

whispyrs plater is pretty dope

[clever steeple]

I have 639 arakara sacblood but.. do i need to get 639 crystal of anub' in vault?? (I prefer playing raid than mythic+ and i also have 626 skar)

[stark scroll]

they are roughly equivelant, for me crystal sims higher

if you have one i wouldnt deem it neccesary

see if there is another upgrade in vault

[sharp viper]

you don't - go to is usually one active trinket like skardyns or transmitter and one passive like crystal, sacbrood, ovinax egg or even spyglass

[sharp viper]

I probably would also go for another upgrade in the vault

passive trinket sidegrades are not too impactful

[stark scroll]

even socket would be better

yeah

[sharp viper]

and always

[stark scroll]

crystal and sack are like a 2k difference

I have simmed every combination of them with gear they are barely an auto attacks difference

Sometimes crystal gives me stats that are very helpful in certain situations

I think sin likes all the secondaries

but not worth taking a sidegrade

[sharp viper]

just crit once more or less and the difference is negligigbbglelebgbelle

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-gif-13575853101874488635

[hallow glade]

Thank you!

#showtooltip
/castsequence [known: Atrophic Poison] Deadly Poison, Amplifying Poison, Crippling Poison, Atrophic Poison; [known: Numbing Poison] Deadly Poison, Amplifying Poison, Crippling Poison, Numbing Poison

[dapper marsh]

Ah I understand now, thanks for the macro!

[hallow glade]

yw!

[vivid mulch]

Is there a specific WA for all trinkets?

[rotund oak]

wdym WA

[vivid mulch]

like that tells you what to do quickly

[rotund oak]

like tracking the duration cd for all trinekts?

[vivid mulch]

like for treachouris

Actually its prolly only for transmitter

[rotund oak]

i have no idea what treachouris is

[vivid mulch]

Treachorus transmitter

Treacherous transmitter

[rotund oak]

ah u mean the minigame announcer

[vivid mulch]

yos

[rotund oak]

well u can make a custom one for each trinket u use individually

but sin has the benefit to just macro skadryns on daethmark

they always allign

other one is prolly a passive like crystal or knife

so i dont rly see a reason unless its something rly specific which u have to mention

outside transmitter that is

[split veldt]

man, sad about the ring this time around, the DF one was fun

[fallow canopy]

Isn't it basically the same thing?

[split veldt]

kinda, but this one sucks apparently

the DF one had some decently interesting things on the gems

and i had fun getting that grassy mammoth or w/e it was called lol

[split willow]

How do I reliably vanish/meld skip the two frontal charge dwarves in stone vault?

[fallow canopy]

the DF one sucked too, but got hotfixed quickly into being BiS for almost everyone iirc

[split veldt]

ye, im hoping for hotfixes

they keep saying it's supposed to be a power bump for people still needing to clear content, so fingers crossed

[mortal badger]

it 100% will get buffed dw

[split veldt]

the crest changes are so nice, S2 gonna be fire

[royal lantern]

people making a big deal out of a ring that has the INCREDIBLE effort behind it of

do a weekly quest 1x a week

[fallow canopy]

I don't mind that personally just that we'll get the "full" version of it right before the season ends

[spice surge]

The DF one was horrid as well

And then it got massively buffed right before/right after release

[shy axle]

ds sim is fine for m+ or is there anything else/new like mdt sim?

[split veldt]

ye, hope it happens again

[spice surge]

It surely will, no point releasing a ring if nobody is gonna use it

[royal lantern]

use dslice yes

its maintained for rogue

[shy axle]

thank you

[royal lantern]

i mean

doesnt that make it even more "pointless" for you then

[uneven plume]

better to let it be catch up geare

[royal lantern]

thats literally what it is rn

[uneven plume]

and hopefuly itll stay

[royal lantern]

and they said that they want it to be that

[uneven plume]

that way

[royal lantern]

and people go crazy for some reason and act as if they need to hardcore grind rep for weeks lol

[fallow canopy]

I have a toxic relationship with fomo don't judge me 😳

[royal lantern]

but if i dont judge you now, you are maybe missing out

[fallow canopy]

shiiiit

https://tenor.com/view/gatomirandomeme-gif-14777214025595338942

[rugged umbra]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[vivid mulch]

Yeah whats the WA for transmitter?

[runic hinge]

JUMP THREE TIMES

[lusty kraken]

I see Tryan still simping for blizzard

[vivid mulch]

I know :)

But WA :)

I want it c:

[spice spire]

https://wago.io/xWkCDegWH

[runic hinge]

FIND ORB OR STAND IN CIRCLE

[vivid mulch]

tyvm kind sir :)

[rotund oak]

ty fam

20more seconds holding my hot chocolate rather than googling

[vivid mulch]

Its not that i dont know what to do, but it saying it quickly will just help instead of me looking on the ground and what not

[rotund oak]

btw idk if u know but there is a site that has concentrated all kinds of WAs for almost anything which u can visit by urself

in case u dont know its wago.io

[spice surge]

!transmitter

[runic hinge]

Yeah I just like saying the instructions very loud

[vivid mulch]

Yeah i do kno wage.io but i just tried searching for the trinket

[spice surge]

Damn its only in sub

[vivid mulch]

Nothing came up

[past bobcat]

These guys play skar

[spice surge]

#subtlety message

[rotund oak]

wait is there a sub command

[vivid mulch]

Wish i had skardyns :c

[rotund oak]

cool

[spice surge]

@vivid mulch Check out that post too, its helpful

[vivid mulch]

ah ok i see

wrong reply

[rotund oak]

no problem friend

[vivid mulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807809192537882647/1278044097596096632/4x.gif

[manic quartz]

Tempest or nah in M queen? i see people use both tempest and no tempest

[spice surge]

Absolutely not unless you want to pad

[past bobcat]

Does caustic have a range? Can it get the ads on queen?

[spice spire]

8y from center of target

[coral ibex]

maybe some but not many and not reliably i think. you mean the p3 ads?

[hollow rivet]

Guys I'm lost, almost want to switch back to my warry.
Look at this logs, the first rogue with the same ilvl did 40million more total dps with evenom than me.
I feel like I did not do massive mistake so maybe something that I don't get.
Tried to send log to wowanalyzer and it seems that we have the same perf.

Someone can have a look?
https://fr.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kgHFAcNPG8WC7tVh?fight=last
https://wowanalyzer.com/report/kgHFAcNPG8WC7tVh/5-Heroic+Queen+Ansurek+-+Kill+(6:15)/Skyrìder/standard
https://wowanalyzer.com/report/kgHFAcNPG8WC7tVh/5-Heroic+Queen+Ansurek+-+Kill+(6:15)/Pyrokaid/standard

[golden loom]

I mean you have different talents

I assume he is the one with forced induction

that adds a lot of damage to envenom

[hollow rivet]

mmh that much?

I try to use standard talent used by the most of the player

[golden loom]

personally I switched over to forced induction a few weeks ago but

idk I mean it just changes ur damage profile a bit

[hollow rivet]

Already seen that my evenom is kind of low compared to other rogues, there a specific meca related to evenom that I don't get?

[coral ibex]

forced induction specifically adds combo points to your finisher (envenom) which increases the damage

[hollow rivet]

So no obvious mistake in my log? because even the other with lower ilvl is above me

[spice surge]

Yes,read your hero talent

Youre not using it

[brave comet]

is fan of knives actually necessary in single target?

[hollow rivet]

what do you mean?

[golden loom]

you use it when u have clear the witness proc ye

[spice surge]

Read the darkest night

Youre not using it

[brave comet]

oh that wasnt targeted at me

[hollow rivet]

no me 🙂

[unborn pendant]

Reading through this spec's opener is making my head spin LMAO

[winged quail]

then don't look at Sub

[brave comet]

it's actually simple, its just unnecessarily long

vanish > ambush > garrote > rupture

[royal lantern]

tbh

sub and assa opener both look complicated

then you play it and its just "yeha, you use everything with your high dmg stuff"

[hollow rivet]

You mean I miss the Darkest Night buff couple time? so evenom with max combo?

[brave comet]

if theres more than 3 targets rupture again and garrote again, then press mutiliate

[spice surge]

You used it literally once

[winged quail]

now that Sub delays Shadowblades until after sectec I hate it

[spice surge]

During the entire 6 minute fight

so yes

[coral ibex]

one DN in 6 mins…

how

you will accidentally get 7cp

like all the time

[hollow rivet]

oh damn maybe i use it to often once i got 4cb+

[coral ibex]

you should never finish with 4cp

[hollow rivet]

Sorry I mean 5

[coral ibex]

you have to consume DN with a 7cp envenom or you are playing entirely without a hero talent

[hollow rivet]

ok so i think that is my main mistake -_-'

[dapper marsh]

Weakaura packs should highlight your 7th combo point when you get the proc

[hollow rivet]

I have luxthos but only have a little icone with the buff

[spice spire]

Take it step by step and it gets a lot easier

[coral ibex]

apply mark
apply bleeds
envenom
cds

btw do you guys build to 5cp for your first rupture or do you just send it with however many cp you have after ambush+garrote

[dapper cradle]

i go for minimum 5

to keep mark cycling

[heavy nebula]

Wait how exactly is supercharge working?

And forced induction…

If I have 1 blue combo point… it goes to 4?

[shy creek]

What somnius does, if it isn't enough to cycle mark then I hit mutilate

[shy creek]

Yes

This allows for things like 10 CP envenom

[unborn pendant]

Yo wait, if you fuck a Vanish window up with the ST build you're kinda just boned for 2 minutes LOL

I need to practice this like crazy

[manic quartz]

how you fuck up vanish window?

[unborn pendant]

I have severe Shrouded Suffocation muscle memory.

[snow kindle]

what does that change though

[spice spire]

You don’t bone your rotation

But it definitely makes the burst less

Unless you just

Don’t crit the final few ticks either way

[drifting cedar]

how to see on logs kingsbane stacks?

[spice spire]

Buffs

Like

Do you want to see tick damage

Or how many stacks per

The latter is buff

First is damage and list out the kb ticks

[runic hinge]

I want to see his cat

[spice spire]

Same

I love ubod’s cat they’re so cute

[runic hinge]

fr fr

[thorn slate]

is there a WA for only keeping track of the Master Assasin talent?

[slate crown]

create new: icon: trigger tab: aura player (all of this is defaulted in): Spell Name -> Master Assassin

Or use a template aura

[proper hare]

people said this was badge but i would argue tempest over CS on rash seems decent. im aclassic andy and not top 10 world but seems to me when cs got fuck all value CT is kinda good

[fringe crater]

What's the amount of PIs you can get before your log is invalidated?

[sullen gyro]

1 every 2 minutes

[snow kindle]

Ct doesn’t even last 3s

More DPS if they are perma alive to FOK envenom spam

[stark scroll]

CT is worthless on that fight!!

ONLY TAKE IT IF YOUR GUILD LETS YOU PAD!!

[proper hare]

either way its 40 mill, 30+ish over ib

[safe field]

does sudden demise works for both rogue if there are two rogues with the same talents?

[sullen gyro]

that looks like about 2-3 ticks of ct per add including initial damage

[proper hare]

just wanted to try it out and it felt good with going tempest since IB sucks and i cant get spatter value at all

[sullen gyro]

for the cost of 2 talent points

[snow kindle]

The adds don’t do anything though rash is the best boss for ST

Cause perma execute phase

[spice spire]

No

One person gets SD the other does not

[sullen gyro]

if you want to pad adds just play sub and press black powder or outlaw and blade flurry

[spice spire]

The extra bleed dam yesh

But not the execute

[safe field]

i see, no wonder i got raped by higher geared rogue with same talents

my sudden demise damage was pathetic

literally none

fuck that lol

[stark scroll]

wait what

only one rogue gets the SD

haahahahaha

thats fucking funny spaghetti code shit

[spice spire]

How could two things execute

[sullen gyro]

whichever rogue triggers sudden death first would get it

[stark scroll]

if two rogues garrote at the same exact millisecond

[subtle tundra]

thats literally how it should work

[spice spire]

So the higher ilvl rogue always

[stark scroll]

and the garrotes are ticking at the same time

[sullen gyro]

so if your bleeds have higher value when the target is below 35 you'll get it

[stark scroll]

for the same damage

[spice spire]

Because his bleeds will do more dam

[stark scroll]

and each kill at the same time

which one gets the sd

[sullen gyro]

unless you have the exact same gear that's impossible

[subtle tundra]

thats like impossible to happen

[stark scroll]

hahahaha

[subtle tundra]

cause 5% variance aswell

[spice spire]

If you have the same exact gear and race

[subtle tundra]

etc

[spice spire]

Lmk

[sullen gyro]

and time it perfectly to 1/100th of a second

[subtle tundra]

every dmg instance has 5% dmg variance

[sullen gyro]

since that's the tick rate of the game

[stark scroll]

so as long as we have the same gear

stronge rogue wins

[round swift]

Think I’m gonna rc to maghar from NE… get some freshness on Tuesday.

[spice spire]

[fresh kelp]

that's when you wait to open on the pack so that your bleeds have more duration on them so they execute first obv

[humble verge]

nice

finally got orange log on rasha too

looking at details tho o_0

[crimson zephyr]

I think I start to understand why people take eluvisness vs cheat death xD

[humble verge]

yeah, you need elusive on high keys :3

[crimson zephyr]

Just tried a COT 12, no idea if that's what you consider high ^^but god damn would I have liked the anti dmg 😮

but the buff says "magical damage", so the tooltip is a bit wanky?

[spice spire]

Yeah uh

You don’t live the last boss without elusiveness

[humble verge]

yeah 12 is high

cause you dont have affix

extra damage from everything

[crimson zephyr]

I didn't make it there but I heard the healer scream before that already

[spice spire]

Yeah it’s a uh

Lot

[humble verge]

yeah youre basically just spamming feint on last boss cot

no damage :D

man

[spice spire]

Ye

[humble verge]

i do hate that

[spice spire]

Last boss is like

Giga death

[humble verge]

:D

[crimson zephyr]

so how come buff says magical but talent say "damage".

[crimson zephyr]

have fun

[spice spire]

Splice? Fuck you. Slam? Fuck you? Roots? Yeah fuck you too

[pliant remnant]

Blizzard tooltips

[spice spire]

The only respite you have is the tank getting fucked

[humble verge]

feint splice

feint slam

feint root

feint my balls

[crimson zephyr]

without cheat death I have to learn how to play tho

[spice spire]

[humble verge]

nah

you just have to spam feint always

[spice spire]

Honestly

You’d be amazed how little it actually comes up

[humble verge]

if you havent spammed feint atleast

60-70 times in the run

youre taking too much damage D:

atleast in cot

[crimson zephyr]

In general I oerspam feint probably because I don't know what dmg it reduces so I rather assume it does vs it doesnt - too much of a m+ noob to know the details yet

23 feints until after 2nd boss I just had - because I was living on the edge of death 😮

[humble verge]

you should most of the time feint dots, and aoe

esp dots

as thats what elusiveness gives you help with

f.exp in cot

the big scarab

he pops a dot every 30 or so seconds idk

feint as he pops

[crimson zephyr]

that dot is nasty

so because he casts it to everyone it counts as a dot?

ah with elusivness you ahve teh 20% right keep forgetting that

[humble verge]

it is a dot yes

im in the middle of raid

so im late on replies

ive found out i can keep my charged CP

[crimson zephyr]

pressing feint makes way more fun with elusivness 😛

[rotund oak]

spaming keys mindlessly for crests,to craft sht

very fun

[crimson zephyr]

arent you just capped anyway?

[spice spire]

Cap ended yesterday

[rotund oak]

not 636 yet,had another bad vault

[spice spire]

Same king

632.75

So many pieces to get

[crimson zephyr]

by how much is the limit per week extended?

[rotund oak]

im 634 currently

[spice spire]

Nothing instead 🙂

[spice spire]

Infinite

No more cap

[rotund oak]

wdym extended

the crest cap is removed

[crimson zephyr]

ah really

[spice spire]

Ye

[crimson zephyr]

so I can craft the dagger and shit without feeling bad ^^

[rotund oak]

i want trinkets and a wpn

idk,sht game denies me trinkets

[spice spire]

Got a weapon already

Trinkets

[rotund oak]

yeah its my next craft

[spice spire]

Absolutely not

We have 6 options

And I’ve gotten 4 trinkets in the last 2 weeks in vault

None right

[crimson zephyr]

GB trinket is the biggest troll item ever

[rotund oak]

yup big loot table to drop

smol chance

literally jails us

[crimson zephyr]

I think most of those are when I started m+ and really farmed that trinket - bet 70 80 GB runs xD

[rotund oak]

the previous vault had 5 tirnkets,abyssal trap,arakara,candle,mists trinket and nw trinket

i was about to uninstall

literally enraged

punched my door

worse luck in 20 years

5 trinkets nothing i need

[spice spire]

Grom harvest, overclocked, ocarina, and I don’t even remember the last one

Like

Incredible and generational luck the last two weeks

[rotund oak]

just put a bad luck vendor FFS

now that i need 3 items theyve nerfed the crest craft,like idk,i think poe 2 angle

[spice spire]

[crimson zephyr]

can stuns still be parried?

[rotund oak]

physical source can be dodged as well

magical ones no

those only immuned

[elder kiln]

Hey guys, I seem to be quite low on ST in dungeons, is this something to be expected ? I'm barely 629 but i figure i should be doing more than, i'm systematicly last on st bosses fights 😦

[lusty kraken]

Yes assa is bad at ST in m+

[runic hinge]

Assa m+ st is bad

Thanks Rob I’m slow

[elder kiln]

ah thanks ! i was worried but i was doing every thing right 😦 tyvm

[lusty kraken]

Pure ST tho, if the boss has adds or if the tank pulls some mobs into the boss assa does great damage

[crimson zephyr]

can someone explain pooling to me?

[crimson zephyr]

1st boss pirate land dungeon is nice 🙂

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

• Energy just is low on the spec there's nothing to do about it
• Super Min-Max stuff includes avoiding the auto proc of tea (less than +0.2%, tea/shiv macro is optimal)
• Refreshing Envenom in pandemic instead of spamming it (mostly relevant for m+ without TTK, can be up to 0.5%)
• Otherwise nothing matters. Pooling before kingsbanes isn't important because of tea lining up and deathmark giving a huge surge of energy

[crimson zephyr]

hmm there was another command something about 50% energy

[runic hinge]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[runic hinge]

I think they changed the pooling command

[crimson zephyr]

so on ST I just go until im drained and if I see I get CDs I let it build up a bit - but not sure if that's how you are supposed to do it

[crimson zephyr]

yeah not sure I understand teh tea lining up bit I dont think that's always true no?

[runic hinge]

If you macro tea to shiv you’ll have one charge for every kb

[crimson zephyr]

which talent makes tea auto use?

[spice surge]

Thistle tea

[crimson zephyr]

I could swear that if I go raiding (which I didnt do for ages) the tea never procs by itself

hm

[rotund oak]

u never drop below 30 energy then

[crimson zephyr]

so you make shiv tea macro and just make sure you never go below 30 energy?

[runic hinge]

It doesn’t matter

[rotund oak]

its just an optimization for both rly.Shiv+tea adds the dmg on last ticks on KB

[crimson zephyr]

ok thanks

[runic hinge]

Because you’ll use a tea charge with shiv during kb and it’ll always be there

[rotund oak]

tea is mastery buff,energy and shiv amps dmg in general

[runic hinge]

Kb is one minute and tea is one minute

Even if you use the other two due to low energy you’ll have that one on the correct timing

[coral ibex]

the only time you won't get a tea charge with your kingsbane is if you drift your kingsbane and then proc your tea

otherwise you are guaranteed to get one back every minute, aligned with kingsbane

since you use the first charge just before you press kingsbane in opener

[keen spruce]

you need to keep track of your mark and move it around with darkest night

depending on what boss is jumpin away / damage amp'd

or just play fatebound and

[distant helm]

you only need to swap the mark twice realy

[coral ibex]

no

[somber sparrow]

I keep the deathmark on fatty until the intermission is going to happen then activate it on skinnylegs

[keen spruce]

no it should stay

but it might be expiring

during the intermission

[sharp viper]

no but it can time out

[keen spruce]

I normally overcomplicate it

try to get 2 sets of DSM on skinny before the leap

then swap to fatty

[somber sparrow]

i consume all 3

[keen spruce]

but really just keep it on fatty

swap it for first intermission

then put it back on fatty

[acoustic roost]

Liquid reminders is great for reminding

[coral ibex]

mrt has reminders

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-breath-simpsons-ralph-gif-14104833

[somber sparrow]

a big thing to remember is in a fight like this with 2 bosses up is to keep garrote and rupture on each of them

[keen spruce]

Dogs smell like fritos

[sharp viper]

you got a dog?

[keen spruce]

no just dogs in general

if i had a dog I wouldn't leave the pet channel

[sharp viper]

I was about to say I was surprised to potentially have missed yoru posts in it

now get back to #1231592737221120152 ing

[keen spruce]

I'm pretty sure the number turns read

red

when it's in pandemic

well would the healthbar change color for garrote or rupture?

or envenom

seems confusing

which buff tho

there's a lotta things

you put on mobs that pandemic

debuff*

sounds more confusing than tracking them by icon

!ui

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[coral ibex]

nah fuck icons

[keen spruce]

could try one of these

they might fit your eye better

I think i'm using cev's

with some tweaks

[quiet oar]

Shmeeps

[coral ibex]

you can just export the recoloring mod

and import it into your plater

[sharp viper]

wait are you actually playing wow atm

[keen spruce]

[quiet oar]

I need a hug

[coral ibex]

i've stolen lots of little things from all the popular plater profiles

[keen spruce]

wanna interlock toes? that's like our feet are hugging

[keen spruce]

yeah comin up on 2 months

[quiet oar]

Thats ok

We didnt kill spider

[coral ibex]

[quiet oar]

Im depressed

[spice spire]

🤗

It dies soon king

[coral ibex]

whispyr's plater has a recolor mod

[spice spire]

So does cev’s

[keen spruce]

next week surely

[quiet oar]

Not everyone had 11% dmg buff

[spice spire]

0.4

[quiet oar]

Sunday (hope fully)

[quiet oar]

Yeah

[quiet oar]

With a whole dps dead

Since p3

Start

Ive never felt so disapointed after a raid evening

I think

[spice spire]

That’s rough pal

Sunday it’s free

[quiet oar]

Idk, some players are absent

[deft vault]

I cant use a faction change to swap from night elf to gnome right?

[keen spruce]

pretty sure u gotta use a race change

[quiet oar]

Yeah

[keen spruce]

if they made those things like 10 bucks

[wet plover]

Probably nf to blood elf

[keen spruce]

they'd have gotten so much money from me

[quiet oar]

Its so dumb

[deft vault]

nah going gnome for queen

[quiet oar]

Thst it Costs 25-30 bucks

For an Automaten Thing

[keen spruce]

actually insane

[quiet oar]

???

[wet plover]

Race change it is

[deft vault]

shit game

[keen spruce]

I'd race change like every season

if it was 10 bucks

[quiet oar]

I didnt change to gnome for queen fuck this

Just have a Paladin save you

[deft vault]

cant

[keen spruce]

but now i've been velf since raz

andi haven't used my racial

since that boss

[deft vault]

only people who dont have anything for p1 is both our rogue for the third root

hes getting the pally freedom and i wanted to gnome cuz i had 2 faction cvhange but fuck it ima get rooted and broke out of it i guess

[runic hinge]

Faction change over and change back

[unreal kayak]

with changes to void elf is that a nerf dmg wise ?

[spice surge]

It goes from always proccing every 60s to proccing every 60s (-haste) on average

So on average its probably slightly worse for a burst spec like assa yes

On fights where you use your stuff on CD that is. But overall it doesnt matter much

[novel star]

damage buff from racial buff

less downtime indeed

[royal lantern]

we are months past that point lol

like

first root is automatically with vanish anyway

2nd is just cloak

and 3rd root breaks in 1second from passive cleave

[fallow canopy]

at this point roots fall over

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[drifting cedar]

hey yall can someone help me out why is my envenom dps so low? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LVxbDHwBAmpg6ZKq?fight=13&type=damage-done&source=23

[balmy condor]

Stat Citrines just got around a 7% Buff I hate this ring so much.

Now equal to:

• 636 ring in Deathstalker Single target
• 0.6% better for Fatebound Single target (BiS)
• 0.3% better for Deathstalker Dungeonslice (BiS)

Cyrce's Circlet Info

"Legendary" is also a dangerous gem cause it is so insanely RNG.

You can also read THIS ARTICLE to see some other nonsense like snapshotting Fathomdweller's.

[spice spire]

I love .7 rings I love .7 rings I love .7 rings I love .7 rings

[runic hinge]

That reminds me of this song

7 rings by Ari

[coral ibex]

lets have a round of applause for a 636 ring

[storm forum]

my rogue coming out of retirement

[runic hinge]

[storm forum]

cant wait to run around in circles and then use an on-use trinket + potion, to change my rings

[limber lion]

Why does Blizz love mid patch rings

[spice surge]

Because theres 2 slots

And not as "cool" as trinkets

[coral ibex]

blizz when their analytics tell them MAUs go up when there's a mid patch ring

[soft surge]

fresh pins

!fb

what was that fatebound macro for the ability and the other ability

cold bloo

!macro

is it cold blood to kingsbane?

nvm m*thod has it on their site

[brave comet]

on mythic broodtwister, should i use cleave or should i use the mythic+ build

[spice surge]

Not the m+ build no

Generally just pick CT and youre good

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/telepurte-pingu-noot-noot-gif-25837050

you said the s word

[balmy condor]

Shotfix?

[slate crown]

Do the ring effects really snapshot with increased mastery?

with the fathomdwellers

[balmy condor]

the effect on fathomdwellers is the one that snapshots

[bright tartan]

the ring is cursed

[dawn heath]

Hey dont say that you hate the ring tryan will come after you and tell you why its amazing

The island is amazing content and the ring is irrelevant 🧢 wow players throwing a tantrum when they have to leave dornogal you all should be bowing to Blizzard for releasing such amazing content and time gating it to make sure we have something to keep ourselves busy each week with alot of fun

[balmy condor]

thanks for sharing

[dawn heath]

Personally i am so excited to see the actual ring on my hands isnt that amazing? I am so impressed with what they have cooked up well done!!

[balmy condor]

[runic hinge]

Players whining about having to do something other than m+ lfg queue simulator

For a .6% increase

Like maaaan if you hate leaving the city so much just don’t do it

[dawn heath]

Counting the hours until i can visit the island and explore so excited hype hype

It will be buffed even more

[sacred totem]

any klnow what the fan of knifes proc called

[balmy condor]

the deathstalker one is clear the witnesses

[sacred totem]

ty

my WA aint telling if its proced or nto

not

[keen spruce]

which wa do you use?

[sacred totem]

Quazii TWW Rogue

wich one do i ude

use

[keen spruce]

i was just wonderin

it should be on there

[balmy condor]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[oak eagle]

quick q, does cloak make me immune to the pull on Queen

[fallow canopy]

no

[oak eagle]

gross

[fallow canopy]

you can step after getting yanked

[oak eagle]

yeah ig thats how ill get more uptime during mythic int

shits cringe rn

[manic sphinx]

i have a heroic ring at 619 (and a crafted one at 636). any point in upgrading the heroic ring?

[balmy condor]

Recraft the 636 to save crests and then upgrade the heroic one for free

[manic sphinx]

recraft? it's already 636

oh, is this that duplicate ring thing? 😮 sounds good! how do i do it? :p

ooh ok, just watched a quick vid - thx! That'l save me a few crests, thx ❤️

[balmy condor]

Yeh np

[rotund oak]

Lol man,0.6% still wont make me farm this thing

[runic hinge]

I’ll farm it just cause I know whatever the island meta achieve is will be included in the end of expack meta

[rotund oak]

im remaining skeptical about s2.If there are no improvements in m+ might play something else

[balmy condor]

You also can’t fly without the ring quests

[runic hinge]

Yeah I just like playing wow

[balmy condor]

Point and laugh at this man having fun

[fringe oxide]

Wait we're not supposed to have fun?

[sturdy python]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[balmy condor]

Playing wow is CBT

You either smash your face into a raid boss 2-3 times a week wishing you were somewhere else

Or you have the mental damage to sit in town and queue m+

[frail mural]

guys how many percent overall that mythic ansurek ring?

[sturdy python]

there probably isn't, but in case there is, is there somewhere someone compiled sim fight styles or like ideal lengths/settings per boss or is there a general one we should use? for example, what would be optimal for ansurek mythic? I've tried both patchwork and hectic cleave add but both give different gem recommendations, naturally

[balmy condor]

Depends on the rest of your character, sim it

[balmy condor]

Patchwerk 1 target for anything raid

Simming adds ain’t worth it

And hectic add cleave is giga troll

Hectic add cleave is basically ovi’nax but more frequent adds

[sturdy python]

awesome ty, and is changing fight length worth it or just leave it at 5 mins?

[balmy condor]

And less adds

You can move the fight length if you want but it shouldn’t matter

You’d get the same recommendations for 3 min that you do for 8 realistically

[sturdy python]

yeah fair, thanks a lot as always ^^

[balmy condor]

Np

[runic hinge]

I think getting CE is where the game gets worse. Being a casual aotc Andy keeps it fun and I don’t feel like when I log in I constantly need to do things for player power and I don’t have the slam face into boss or spam keys mentality. But some people can’t play games like that and I get it.

[balmy condor]

Yeah for me, casual Andy aotc is just far too easy

Would be even more frustrating cause there would be such an insane skill discrepancy compared with the people im playing with

[runic hinge]

Sometimes it is for me too but I just don’t have the time.

[balmy condor]

Yeah that’s fair

[rotund oak]

im not even trying to raid but it looks like there are more ''walls'' than usual

like ppl were stuck on ovinax at start,then kyveza then court

court being the peak degeneracy

[past marten]

When people still confuse left and right on Rashanan farm, you know that Kyveza will be a "wall".

[rotund oak]

how do u confuse left and right

[balmy condor]

Idk if I would consider ovi’nax and kyveza “walls” really

They were hard

But they were progress-able

Court was just a mess

[past marten]

Still trying to wrap my head around that

[golden loom]

have u ever seen people do thaddius in naxx

the only mechanic is going left or right and people still fuck up

[rotund oak]

thaddius had tossed bombs in diff ''charged'' areas but fair point

[balmy condor]

Some people also consider rash a wall boss

When it’s like

30 pulls

For bad guilds

[snow kindle]

i like court since no almost no rng once u got it u got it

better than tindral

fk that

[balmy condor]

Tindral is on the verge of not even being top 3 worst raid bosses for me

Court and SLG are fighting for first

[storm zinc]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[royal lantern]

court is

so bad

it feels like a very bad ff14 raid fight

tuned up 4x to make it not a joke

make a 2nd boss part of it

and then put it into wow without any adjustments

but ye, the "difference" bettwen AotC and CE is just a bit....idk man

[runic hinge]

It’s a big difference

[royal lantern]

AotC is doable in groups with randoms and no VC in week2 ans then just turns into a joke

and then the next difficulty step is......multi week prog with some fights wherr you dont know how they go months without meaningfull changes, until they suddenly nuke multiple things at once

[west crown]

Just do AOTC with a mid group. Then you get AOTC week 6 and feel somewhat accomplished

[runic hinge]

Hey that’s me

[keen spruce]

court seems bad is a fairly unique way

which mich bump its numbers up

might*

[golden crane]

Dumb question guys, is it better to macro Skarydyns with Kingsbane or Deathmark ?

[keen spruce]

deathmark

DM 20s skardyns 20s

[golden crane]

Ez ty

[hushed tangle]

i have a question, i know you are supposed to shiv the last 7 seconds of kingsbane if you only have 1 charge but why does that do more damage?

[runic hinge]

You sure?

[runic hinge]

Kingsbane ramps with more poison applications

[golden loom]

cause kingsbane ramps, does more at the end where u have poisons applied

[runic hinge]

So it does more damage at the end

[golden crane]

And Shiv increases that damage so you want the Shiv duration to cover the end of kingsbane

[keen spruce]

i uhhh

yes?

[hushed tangle]

oh ok thanks for helping me understand

[keen spruce]

no

DM 16 seconds

answer still the same

[golden loom]

u macro them cause both are 2 min cds 😛

[runic hinge]

I tried sub today. Was kinda fun but not more fun than assa

[keen spruce]

destro isn't qualified for BTM

so i'm not doin BTM ig

[runic hinge]

I might sub for btm

Maybe spriest

[spice spire]

Btm this btm that, how about you bottom for some hoes

[runic hinge]

Whoops wrong channel

[sick garnet]

Bro, it took me a good while to understand this boss back in wotlk naxx. But Heigan was my kryptonite
I was young and played DK without diseases since i only pressed buttons that actually did damage while pressing. Big numbers small brain

[golden loom]

only ever done vanilla naxx as I started wow this year with hc classic, but I can understand people not getting it 20 years ago

but its kinda funny seeing people die to it in this day and age

[sick garnet]

Yeah, today an average m+ trashmob got more abilities thant a Naxx Boss

[golden loom]

to be fair tho, you as players have less tools at the same time

but I had such a blast cause I was completely fresh and experiencing the raids for the first time while trying to stay alive in hardcore

but now I just wanna do damage and play fun boss fights so retail is fun

[royal lantern]

court just feels so bad to play

its a dance Fight where the fight part feels like as if its missing, and a single misstep kills 2 people instantly with a 1hit mechanic

and then there are the adds that just feel giga pointless and bring nothing to the fight except "lol DK tax or somebody gets a auto hit crit for 4million dmg"

and the dispell such a tight mechanic, its stupid how it went THAT long with no changes lol

its not a good sing when you kill a boss, and instead of joy we had multiple people asking the RL if we can not do re-clears this time because they never want to see that boss again

[golden loom]

it makes so much sense that they start designing bosses with heroic, and then just add stuff for mythic to make it harder when you look at court

cause the heroic fight slaps

[royal lantern]

heroic palace is legit a really damm good heroic raid

mythic palace is a absolute mess

[golden loom]

yeah I have only done 4/8 mythic so I think I have missed most of the bullshit thankfully, but heroic is so fun

[royal lantern]

4 fights that are almost no changes from heroic, followed by the visual clusterfuck and lagfest that is ovinax, and then court

[amber brook]

but kyveza is fun no?

[void horizon]

Hello guys, very "new" at assa. In aoe environments it's all ok, but in ST i feel very weak. I feel I'm always thirsty of energy, sometimes just auto-attacking in order to wait resources... don't know what i'm supposed to do out of cds and teas

[novel star]

Yea

Ovinax is also fun when ur not having wa issues or bad player issues

[tacit otter]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[novel star]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

• Energy just is low on the spec there's nothing to do about it
• Super Min-Max stuff includes avoiding the auto proc of tea (less than +0.2%, tea/shiv macro is optimal)
• Refreshing Envenom in pandemic instead of spamming it (mostly relevant for m+ without TTK, can be up to 0.5%)
• Otherwise nothing matters. Pooling before kingsbanes isn't important because of tea lining up and deathmark giving a huge surge of energy

[royal lantern]

!cute

😦

[novel star]

345 vibe

decent

[clever sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/little-devil-smile-cute-gif-3423571824772054786

[viral spire]

For ST are we considering using the new ring at all?

I wonder how it effects fatebound vs deathstalker considering its better on fatebound

[rotund oak]

wdym effects

fatebound is rng,u flip a coin

guess the citrine gem jsut adds more dmg than the fatebound rng

[flint comet]

Hey guys, kinda new to assa rogue and the server, I was wondering how much dmg a good Kingsbane is supposed to be doing. Im currently at 624 ilvl and the highest I got was like 4.5M i think

[royal lantern]

i wish i could answer you that, but i never look at the number

[rotund oak]

it used to be somethign like 6-7mil but might be wrong

not 100% sure

[flint comet]

aight cool, that seems doable in AoE