assassination

[novel star]

small L all things considered

[cobalt sphinx]

i think the ring needs gems

[runic hinge]

Wish someone would siphon my stiletto

[stark scroll]

Yeah

[novel star]

but yeah make sure you’re simming with gems and enchants

and then just take whatever the sim tells you to take

[hollow gazelle]

I do need to fix that it may change the sim

[novel star]

don’t think about bis ever is the main thing

the only time it’s relevant is for trinkets(sometimes)

[hollow gazelle]

I just said bis to say it. my current gear sims highest but i want to get that extra il but not lose dps. thats just dumb

[novel star]

like skardyns or transmitter are a requirement but beyond that bis lists are fake

sure but why do you want the extra ilvl on a ring

ring ilvl doesn’t matter like other slots

it doesn’t have mainstat

you just equip the thing that make damage go boom

[stark scroll]

I need some haste vers

[tawdry mica]

just simmed a ring and it says it's a bit better but even though it won't recommend equipping it? what would you guys do

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nJxRGPeteQ7rEmQL8QPNm1

[cobalt sphinx]

i think it just doesn't care if it's a sidegrade

[balmy condor]

Yeah it’s within margin

[cobalt sphinx]

aren't you comparing 619 vs 626 jk its champ

[balmy condor]

If you don’t wanna equip it

Just resim until it’s not better

There’s your life hack

[spice spire]

[tawdry mica]

I see

[balmy condor]

If you’re really bored you can get the sim to say 8008135 even

But from experience you’re gonna need to run the sim around 85 times

Its one of those destination not the journey type things

[tawdry mica]

I wouldn't mind equipping it since I'm just mad at not getting a good ring for 3 weeks

And wanna get rid of the 619

[balmy condor]

Valid enough

[tawdry mica]

And if the difference is minimal then I'm down

[stark scroll]

Sup bro

[balmy condor]

It’s not even minimal

It’s completely equivalent

The sim can’t tell the difference

[warm vortex]

Tbh I’m gonna have like 20% haste this week
:(

[tawdry mica]

Ok ok then I'll grab it

Cheers 🙏

[cobalt sphinx]

gonna need all the vers you can get to survive those unsilenced spell casts you are letting through am i right??

[balmy condor]

Honestly why talent iron wire when I can get more vers

I think I’m starting to get it

[stark scroll]

Yes

[tawdry mica]

LMAO

[stark scroll]

69% vers

Need more haste too

[novel star]

i’m going to wrap an iron wire around ur neck little guy

[cobalt sphinx]

i'll live, i have cloak and evasion

[stark scroll]

Mythic ringworm

[balmy condor]

I beg please

[cobalt sphinx]

casters are everyone else's issue

[tawdry mica]

exactly

[stark scroll]

Steal from the survival Hunter

[novel star]

court that bad huh

[balmy condor]

Bro I wake up and I go “it’s Wednesday, that means I have court prog tomorrow”

[novel star]

oh not today?

[balmy condor]

We don’t raid Wednesdays

[novel star]

interesting

well enjoy the day off goat

get hammered so u can use ur hangover as an excuse to call out of raid

[balmy condor]

I mean I fucking might, it’s the first week of league for me today

[novel star]

bottoms up

[balmy condor]

and because I worked at the alley, I know that 75% of our bar revenue on wednesday nights

are kamikaze's

which is insane

[warm vortex]

Same with running elusive or cheat death

Get more vers to out weigh it

[lavish geyser]

for skip in seige I wanna sap the mob that is furthest to the right. correct?

im talking abt skipping the 3 mobs

[cobalt sphinx]

is this with shroud

[lavish geyser]

y

[cobalt sphinx]

shouldn't matter as long as everyone is on the same page i think, right side should be fine

[rotund idol]

yeah

sap first go check if patrol is there

and if he's gone then shroud

[hallow glade]

When I’m in my opener, I often find myself capped on cp right before the first shiv is about to expire, do I cast envenom, let shiv expire, and then recast shiv on the next gcd, or overcap cp and shiv before pressing envenom to ensure that it stays up the entire kingsbane?

[foggy juniper]

even when simming with diamond, simc is telling me to use 1 algari + 6 deadly onyx, something is off?

[royal lantern]

no

the bonus effect is just a joke

[foggy juniper]

bait guide

[royal lantern]

so its often not even worth playing around it cus the gain is so small

[royal lantern]

not really

its just that for some its not worth it

cus its frking 0,1% crit dmg lol

[foggy juniper]

for me never was on any sim i ran so far, though i was doing something wrong lol

[thorny berry]

anyone know if there is a good platter for rogue?

[runic hinge]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[cobalt sphinx]

Are you checking the boxes to use different colors and then enabling a bunch of different colors

[runic hinge]

The true og mcdondals breakfast platter was pretty good tho ngl

[thorny berry]

thankkss 😄

[foggy juniper]

yep

[tawny junco]

opinions on void reaper's contract?

[cobalt sphinx]

Basically equivalent with the other trinkets of similar ilvl as far as i know

Knife sac spyglass crystal, all the same thing

[west crown]

It’s a little bit worse but you aren’t griefing by running it

[cobalt sphinx]

Yeah without running any sims i imagine stats scale better on multi target than a flat damage trinket

[real pike]

Ffs I died the least out of our entire raid over the course of the evening on silken court and then died twice on the kill

Absolutely cursed

What a horrible horrible boss for assass

[grim jay]

I often experience the same in our first killtries

Something weird and magical happens

And its dogshit

[real pike]

Ye lying on the floor toxic praying for a wipe

[grim jay]

Its not always that extreme. Sometimes I just fuck something stupid up

Or get tons of mechanics

Or get my kb parried once in 300 pulls/kills

[real pike]

My first death was unavoidable but my second was 100% skill issue

Feelsbad

[real pike]

This happened loads on ovinax for some reason but not really had any on kyveza or silken court

[keen umbra]

does someone has an up to date pi target dps gain sheet?

[hollow gazelle]

not us lol

[spice spire]

Bloodmallet is close enough

[limber lion]

Fuck PI

[ornate wagon]

Hey guys what’s the best way to deal with adds on a boss please? Ty ♥️👍

[limber lion]

Spatter

[cobalt sphinx]

depends what boss and what adds

[ornate wagon]

For example first and second bosses in wake please

[cobalt sphinx]

first boss just spatter and maybe tempest and fan, don't let them hit you

on amarth you can vanish and garrote to group them if you don't have any other answers

[violet berry]

Is there a weak aura that will alert you when your thistle tea is about to proc

[cobalt sphinx]

dk will trivialize the adds, the anima ball can keep them interrupted

[ornate wagon]

Thanks mate appreciate that loads ♥️👍

[slate crown]

Make 2 ticks on your energy bar. One placed At Value = 30. One placed Offset from Progress with value of the cost of mutilate. Make them different colors. When mutilate one is below the tea one, your next mutilate will proc tea

[buoyant rivet]

Guy should i mark as bis void reaper contract if i didn't have the boralus trinket?

[cobalt sphinx]

i think i use cev's plater and the mages have purple health bars, so i just sprint vanish and garrote the two purple health bars and get back on the boss for spatter

[buoyant rivet]

i got ara kara 626 and skardyn 626

[west crown]

I feel like you could set up a glow if tea available and below 80 energy it would work too

[cobalt sphinx]

you can sim it, kinda sounds like robbing your guild

i guess you could do that if you wanted to, that's up to you

[west crown]

Highway robbery for sure

Much better classes than us

[violet berry]

How on earth do you do that

[slate crown]

by clicking the button "Add Tick"

[buoyant rivet]

so i should mark it as an upgrade? it sim overall 8k dps on my rog, and boralus trinket 10k

[slate crown]

and selecting the options I said

[buoyant rivet]

but it's rng if i get it or not

[west crown]

If your only goal is single target the trinket is ok. But if you want any sort of aoe ir cleave it loses out

[blissful cosmos]

when my kingsbane is dsynced from my deaths mark should i hold my kingsbane for deathmarks on a boss fight in keys?

or just send the kingsbane then wait to use death marks when it comes back

or just send them seperartly

[cobalt sphinx]

probably depends how far they are desynced but i assume you'd rather delay kingsbane than delay deathmark

[west crown]

Resync I’m pretty sure

[blissful cosmos]

im just worried if im losing a kingsbane usage sometime sin a boss fight and hurting my dps

[west crown]

KB without DM isn’t as big. Probably depends on the fight for fight length too

[blissful cosmos]

in keys

[slate crown]

Looks like this. Personally I don't really care for it but it is a way to show. Could add conditions based on Tea having charges left to show the tick, etc. If you cast mutilate while the blue is below the green, you will proc.

i like effects like this because it gives you the context for how close you are to getting into that range at any point, rather than just a simple "yes/No" indicator like a glow.

[west crown]

Keys always have a lot of nuance. Like when the next pack or boss is that you can even use DM is

I’m probably holding to sync for boss and sending otherwise

[blissful cosmos]

if i dont have cooldowns on pull for a boss fight it really feels like shit in keys

like its embarassing

[west crown]

As long as you have DM and KB once in a boss fight, (likely twice for higher keys) you should be fine to send before and just send cds like 30s- a min into the fight

[signal turtle]

Hey all, new rogue here. Does anyone know the proper spell ID for Corrupt the Blood? I’d like to add it to my Plater debuff blacklist. WoW’s tooltip shows 457066 and Wowhead shows 1035037. Plater does not recognize the latter number, and the effect still shows even though Plater recognizes 457066 as Corrupt the Blood and says it’s blacklisted.

[keen spruce]

Tf is corrupt the blood

[signal turtle]

Hero talent, third from the top, middle, in Deathstalker

[keen spruce]

Sec lemmy get on compooter I just got home

I imagine that is very not worth tracking

[signal turtle]

it’s not, and it’s annoying

thank you 🙏🏼

[fickle sluice]

Is Sanguine blades worth taking over sudden demise for higher-ish keys?

[regal linden]

imo SD was replaced by TTK, not SB.

[slate crown]

My wow says a different ID, 457133

[signal turtle]

Ok great, Plater recognizes that as well - just might do the trick, will check it out - thank you!!

[slate crown]

np, get the idTip addon if you want to see those

Unless you already have it and were using it on the talent

[signal turtle]

ok bet

No, I don’t

[slate crown]

Ahh yeah I see

The talent's ID is what you stated

[signal turtle]

Mmhmm

Getting idTip now 👍🏼

[fickle sluice]

Twist the knife? i suppose i could see that being better for poison damage over the extra bleed damage

[signal turtle]

Haha that worked, thank you!

[slate crown]

[drowsy zodiac]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[west crown]

Sanguine, TTK, and SD are all pretty similar. Just different damage profiles

[silk sundial]

If you cloak the web on myth rash, will it break the web and kill others or will it just negate the dmg you take?

[stable bluff]

dumb new rogue question, is there a certain number of combo points that is the sweet spot for spending? (on say envenom) or is it always best to try to get to 7 without overcapping?

[west crown]

At least 5, don’t overcap, force to 7 when you have darknest night (envenom)

[slim pebble]

Just got pulled in off the bench. im terrified

[coral ibex]

[amber brook]

How do you remove the web threads on mythic rash

using cloak

[tropic cedar]

red or blue team?

[slim pebble]

Blue is what I was assigned

[tropic cedar]

blue team best team

[vale raven]

Hey guys! what's the % of haste we need?

[cobalt sphinx]

No breakpoints, doesn’t matter

[vale raven]

Oh okay, Im trying to see what stats should I craft gear with... Im very confussed cause wowhead guide says haste/mastery but I see the top rogues for M+ and they crafted pieces with crit and mastery

Any idea what's the correct one then?

I though about it was cause we need to reach certain haste amount, but now that u say it doesnt matter, Im more confused lol

[storm forum]

my rogue somehow has a myth spyglass before a hero dagger

[balmy condor]

Wowhead guide crafts haste to make people not hard stack stats. Assa likes all the stats, so there’s no direct “craft this”. It’s all situational and generally not impactful at all

[cerulean nest]

can someone give me a shadowstep macro to a specific person?

[slate crown]

!stats let the crafted gods pick your stats for you

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[vale raven]

Thank u very much guys!

[rotund oak]

the irony of a good vault

[frosty igloo]

new to rogue guys, want to take a look into assassin spec, any videos/guides that have easy starter information, just the basics i want really, just enough dmg to get into heroics/tws is what im after for now

[coral ibex]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[west crown]

Look up Whispyr on YouTube too

[frosty igloo]

will do thanks alot

[coral ibex]

the video with the thumbnail that says "guess we doin damage now"

its long but good

ignore the specific numbers as they're out of date

the theory is applicable

[frosty igloo]

large amounts of info all at once overwhelms me and confuses me 😄 but ill give it a look

ty all! ❤️

[frosty igloo]

yeah this says 3 months ago, still worth watching?

[coral ibex]

theory hasn't changed much

subterfuge is better

which makes without a trace line better

[frosty igloo]

not a clue what that is XD

[west crown]

On the bottom right of the rogue class tree “extends stealth effects 3 seconds” or something along those lines

[frosty igloo]

on his vid he dont use that XD

but ok

[west crown]

Yeah again, numbers have changed since then. Without a Trace and subterfuge are good now

[frosty igloo]

hmm ok, ill get to 80 first i guess, then focus onto rotation

[gusty plover]

Can anyone tell me why top rogues have 60k agi with 633 ilvl while im at 637 ilvl with 56k agi?

It must be the trinkets right

[coral ibex]

i have 60k agi and these trinkets

[west crown]

Ilvl distribution on items and trinkets probably

[coral ibex]

im 635 ilvl

59929 agi

[gusty plover]

I guess its a trinket diff then

[balmy condor]

That’s cause it got semi-reworked a couple weeks after the video

Major major buff

So it’s good now

[coral ibex]

sac has haste with an agi proc iirc

yea

[buoyant pier]

is the proc on wings of shattered sorrow significantly better than the mastery/crit that royal emblem of nerub ar give? Have a myth emblem of nerubar and don't know whether to invest gilded crests into it or just wait for possible chance at the wings.

[coral ibex]

you can sim the marginal difference

the sikran neck has more total stats due to the proc

since we're a spec that likes stats, thats good for us

[drifting cloud]

the cloak is whatever, personally Id send the crests

unless you get it for sure if it drops I guess

[coral ibex]

does cloak not cleanse the dispel in court??

[west crown]

Nope

[coral ibex]

bruh

[west crown]

Just immune the damage

[coral ibex]

gg im a bot

[west crown]

But once cloak is over it comes back

[drifting cloud]

dwarf does

but yeah just hardcoded to prevent accidents or whatever

so healers can have more fun

[coral ibex]

i wanna dispel

when im ready

[gloomy heart]

i hate raid night

[vast loom]

maybe you shouldnt raid then lol

[gloomy heart]

on my mage i meant

Raiding with a guild who finally killed 2nd boss

Milks my motivation right away

[desert vault]

you can have 2x of same crafted dagger? guess that is my life after 10 blood kills and still zero daggers

[short quarry]

what is worth dropping to pick up iron wire? I usually drop master assassin but its simming as a 50k single target loss. curiously also simming only 50k loss on 5t

considering how bad m+ build single target is im trying to maximize my st. probably gonna end up dropping iron wire but god its nice in pugs

[west crown]

Keep IW, take 1 of Sanguine Blades, Sudden Demise, or Twist the knife

[short quarry]

dropping twist makes bosses shit imo

i cant remember what else i drop

oh ok ill try dropping sanguine

i still have that talented

[unkempt ginkgo]

in NW, for the mobs before 2nd boss, does evasion work on separate flesh

[desert jungle]

Do you have a build you can link that takes twist the knife please and thank you

Because the build I use won’t have both sanguin and sudden demise

[hollow gazelle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8MkJ4pUnwShSeaEbU7JcM1

this but with iw in dungeons where needed. atleast this is what i run. you can also drop serrated bone spike for sd i guess. not really sure what people run 100%

[desert jungle]

Thank you much!

[hollow gazelle]

taking ttk over sd is basically the same dps. serrated bone spike is actually really good for starting packs

[desert jungle]

Yeah I like Bone spike. Been running

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ubW3kE1fmgdwByd61u33EY

I want to try twist the knife instead of sudden demise and see if it feels better on prio mobs and bosses

also I pug a lot, having IW is really nice to cover for people not interrupting

[shy creek]

After plyaing fatebound for a bit

is this actually better than deathstalker

theoretically if u hit lucky early enough

[balmy condor]

In pure single target yes

On average it is better

[river shoal]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[blazing pumice]

ttk is substantially behind sd

in terms of overall damage

[hollow gazelle]

substantial is?

[blazing pumice]

like 2-3%

[hollow gazelle]

oh no thats alot

[blazing pumice]

simcraft doesn't include the proc damage

from sudden demise

cuz the mobs don't die

it only includes the bleed damage

[hollow gazelle]

thats completely fair. id prob rather have the st though its pretty bad on assassin in mythic

[blazing pumice]

well that is why people run it

[hollow gazelle]

yeah

[balmy condor]

If you want the single target you don’t drop sd generally

You’d drop sanguine

Cause sanguine is not single target

[shy creek]

Idk anybody else that plays fatebound

but once u hit 5 stacks

and u hit vanish

the envenom u do isnt guarenteed to be the 5 stacks of coin

is it?

like ist not guarenteed to be the 5 heads or tails u have

[balmy condor]

What

No

You vanish for your cold blood matching your edge case flip

So you deathmark -> envenom -> vanish envenom

And that gives you edge flip, edge flip, 2 edge flip

[maiden plaza]

is there a way to get rid of the poison bomb animation? the amount of mechanics it covers is infuriating

[cobalt sphinx]

@subtle tundra

[west crown]

Looks like a normal death to me

Getting healed is overrated

[balmy condor]

No

[balmy condor]

Tempered

Dude that single talent is more spaghetti than both our trees combined it’s insane they haven’t done anything about it

[novel star]

i don’t even know what it is

never run into it ingame

just see the screenshots

wow man 30 minute necro post on accident. nice. i’m depressed

[runic hinge]

Join the club

[subtle tundra]

but i was told tempered in battle doesnt kill you

[cobalt sphinx]

i remember that

[balmy condor]

prot paladin hero talent

[coral ibex]

i know it as evil spirit link

bc it fucking kills you xd

[balmy condor]

https://www.twitch.tv/yodatv/clip/SoftTardyPicklesFreakinStinkin-MKnct5lccZIzQ9r_

[subtle tundra]

skill

something

[rotund oak]

wild

[grim jay]

His healthbar flickering like a candle in the wind

Deserved tho, as he is playing paladin

[bronze dune]

@balmy condor is there a way to adjust the scale of your weakaura pack? its just slightly too small on my screen

[balmy condor]

if you click on the group as a whole there's a scale slider

[bronze dune]

thanks man

[grim jay]

Ewww scales

Filthy dracthyr spotted

[clever sapphire]

my only hate is against the aug, i dont mind dracthyr personally

would i play it? nah

[cobalt sphinx]

hey guys let's run some keys

[clever sapphire]

that looks like one of my elden ring characters

where i make sure it gets as ugly as possible

[gloomy heart]

i don’t know what to main for good, i like assa bc it’s good rn but i wanna play something different

[clever sapphire]

you can play a 2nd assa

[gloomy heart]

….

[subtle tundra]

go something else fotm

[grim jay]

Ye just fotm enhancer

Or something

Enhancer unironically is cool

[subtle tundra]

☹️

[grizzled cargo]

I've been running the M+ build from wowhead, and it's been working fairly well for me - I have a quick question, though; when using it on longer boss fights without adds, it feels like everything starts out well, and then after a burst cycle or two, it slows down tremendously. It simply feels like the energy coming in is not enough. Am I doing something wrong, or is it supposed to feel like that? I'm not throwing out Crimson Tempest in ST, but I am keeping up Rupture and Garrote.

[gloomy heart]

i wanna main something even when it isn’t form

form

[cobalt sphinx]

The build just sucks on st

2.5 overall, 900k st

[subtle tundra]

it just sucks

nothing you can do about it

[grizzled cargo]

Ok, thanks

[grim jay]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[grim jay]

I mean sometimes you just gotta try out stuff

Ive been maining rogue for well over a decade now, something might just click for you

Personally, mage is fun if you wanna go ranged, monk/enhancer/dk are a blast for melee

[gloomy heart]

Yeah i might try mage more

[grizzled cargo]

Thanks, I'll try to be more consevative with my Envenoms and stretch them out more. 👍

[gloomy heart]

Just don’t have pve friends and my guild isn’t rlly good, sucks going from pvp to pve bc u know nobody

[grim jay]

Getting into a guild is pretty easy

As long as you dont immediately shoot for CE guilds

[gloomy heart]

I am in one but they aren’t that good

aka wiping on 2nd boss repeatedly and bashing head in on sikran

[celest crescent]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[slender grove]

if u dont play master assassin for a key do u still vanish in ur deathmark kingsbane windo

[blazing pumice]

no

for what

[glacial stump]

Improved garrote

[celest crescent]

guys does shadowmeld (nelf racial) -> stealth work during raid boss fight? or raid boss combat does not allow to enter stealth from shadowmeld?

[glacial stump]

no

[celest crescent]

aight thanks!

[fringe crater]

Is there any information known about the Cyrce's Circlet from Siren Isle? Will it actually be a good item or is it purely meant for catch-up for alts?

[glacial stump]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/news/how-to-obtain-cyrces-circlet/

[spring stream]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[fringe crater]

Is it easy to swap things around in this ring if you want to swap specs? Just spend some gold and buy the sockets? EDIT: or can you get 2 versions of the ring f.e.?

[spring stream]

gonna be bis item

[fringe crater]

Sorry, I have bene lazy I guess in reading the guide 😄 Thanks for that!

That's nice at least that you can easily get it to be BIS for multiple specs

[glacial stump]

free gear is free gear, I'll take it

[main hemlock]

Would you rather play 2x mythic 639 dagger or 1 crafted with embelishment instead of one mythic?

and also what should be happening on assa when having no teas and low energy? Do I just only use envenom when its about to fall off or casually spam envenom whenever I have energy?

[glacial stump]

In what content ?

[glacial stump]

Whatever sims higher

[fringe crater]

This

[main hemlock]

raiding

[fringe crater]

I have 2 Kukri's, but my embelished 636 dagger still sims higher with the double effect

and having the 2 kukri's and 2 dawnthreads or elemental lenses also still sims lower

It's also because OH damage is very irrelevant for assas

[glacial stump]

Raiding is fairly simple, If you get your opener correct and go into your envonom/deathmark burst properly you should be fine

Inbetween those youre just keeping up your dots, maybe pooling some energy when you can for going into burtss

[fringe crater]

You should also look for opportunities to increase your energy when a fight is not 100% pure ST but has adds

popping a rupture on a low health add just to get 150+ energy back is worth a lot of the time

Or a high health add just to get the passive energy ticks from it of course

[main hemlock]

So pooling energy when kb/dm is about to be up again right?

[fringe crater]

Don't think you need to pool much energy for dm at least, as it gives you a ton of energy on its own with the duplication of your bleeds

for the 1 minute kb window it can be useful ye

[main hemlock]

what about when im nexus princess fight and I just finished my kb rotation and have no energy no teas anymore. Do you pool energy too and only envenom when its about to fall off?

[fringe crater]

Not 100% sure on that. I can imagine that it might be better to pool a bit to get 2 envenoms in quick succession for twist the knife, over having 1 application constantly, but I might be wrong.

[glacial stump]

Just dont waste your teas, you generally use a tea with a shiv. Tea gives mastery buff so best used within your burst

You shouldnt ever really be super dry with no tea up

and no energy

[main hemlock]

I thought teas gonna be used only when low on energy and not with your burst anymore

[glacial stump]

You got a log?

[main hemlock]

I have this one bit older from sikran

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hJYZ6z21jQmTWxaw#fight=79&type=damage-done

[glacial stump]

Right

You didnt use a single Tea for 1min+

you wanna be sending a tea with your shivs

[fringe crater]

You're also not using fan btw

[glacial stump]

You also went into your burst without envenom up but i guess could just be this 1 log mistake

[fringe crater]

I mean, you used it twice but that's it

[main hemlock]

Yeah I usually envenom before I fixxed that

so I can always use tea at start rotation when using shiv?

when do I have to use fan of knives I didnt get that one

[fringe crater]

After darkest night

[sacred schooner]

clear the witness

[glacial stump]

You get a proc called clear the witness

[fringe crater]

It's a more energy efficient way of getting combo points

It's a 10 second buff, so you have 10 sec to use it after every darkest night is consumed

[main hemlock]

Oh okay so everytime I reapply deathstalker when being visible

right?

[glacial stump]

I see some people pressing DM>tea+shiv>KB, but guide says just press tea when you press shiv in the last 7 seconds of your window so idk, but most press with shiv

[fringe crater]

Well, actually i'm wrong in what I said

it's actually when you apply the mark that you get clear the witnesses

so also after vanish + ambush and when you start the fight from stealth you get the buff

[main hemlock]

ohh alright alright

good to know thank you so much guys

[glacial stump]

I'd recommend you read the guide and your talents, because your actually doing great damage, few corrections and you;re flying

[fringe crater]

idd, it's just small optimizations at this point

and min-maxing your time on the boss

[main hemlock]

yeah thats exactly what I was trying to do because I saw a assa rogue doing abit better on nexus myhtic so I was wondering what the issues were

[fringe crater]

f.e. you can cloak the shattering sweep of sikran

there's no need for you to run away from it

you just have to cloak it in the window of 1 sec before he casts

otherwise cloak will not immune it

[main hemlock]

ohhh that works?

[fringe crater]

only the first second

!nw

[prisma monolith]

The breath/frontal from the first boss in Necrotic Wake is an attack, not a spell.

In order to immune the the breath, you must be in the first second of cloak of shadows (“a moment of magic immunity”). After the first second of cloak of shadows has elapsed, the attack will hit you and no longer be immuned.
Alternatively you can use evasion to dodge the breath.

[fringe crater]

it works similar to this ability

i'm not sure if evasion works on it, I have not checked that part

[main hemlock]

ohhh well thats also cool to know lol

I tried that on sikran few times and died lol but didnt know u have to be 1sec before

thanksbro

[fringe crater]

Yeah I learned about that the hard way pushing NW keys

[deep gyro]

Evasion works on it for whole duration.

[tawdry mica]

I learned this the hard way too

Didn't know about evasion working

[fringe crater]

Yeah evasion works on "attacks"

Although honestly even evasion has some funky thinks going with it. For example you can evade the fixate scientists before the 3d boss, but only base melee hits, they also have a tank buster hit which for some reason is not evadable with evasion.

again, found out the hard way

[blazing pumice]

you can vanish/meld that

[grim jay]

Because its a spell probably

[fringe crater]

Thinking about it, I guess youcan also use evasion on the big mob before the second boss, with the frost scythe, since that's also a physical attack and not a frost spell or whatever

[tawdry mica]

Yeah I've been using evasion for these 2 mobs, but paying extreme attention to the remaining duration

I think it lasts the whole fixate or most of it

[fringe crater]

Yeah but again, they have a chance of casting a tank buster while doing it

which will one shot you through the evasion

[tawdry mica]

smh my head

[glacial stump]

Shaking my head my head

[fringe crater]

It's this one i think, if they cast that, you're dead through evasion

[orchid pewter]

Yup, dont evasion, just book it

[soft shale]

you can evasion the beginning but they cast that at the end

[royal lantern]

just dont have any flesh to separate

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blown-mind-blowing-broken-mind-no-way-gif-11598907879309600373

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/smoking-skeleton-gif-25491807

[frosty bridge]

@winged sun my goat

[winged sun]

[frosty bridge]

[arctic socket]

You didn’t invite right?

[frosty bridge]

sadly no

[arctic socket]

Rude

[frosty bridge]

i was mostly worried about last boss as 2 assa rogues lel

[arctic socket]

Woulda been fine

[frosty bridge]

probably tbh

[warm vortex]

Can't wait for people ot spam

"Hey what are the best gems for the ring"

despite it not even being out yet

[humble verge]

i havent even seen the ring

i dont even know when the patch drops 😭

[warm vortex]

Somoene posted

An i think 17this?

*17th ish

Idk tho

[humble verge]

what the hell kind of futuristic icy veins is this

[warm vortex]

Wait thats icey veins?

Holy shit i looked at the website

i didn't know it was IV X(

[humble verge]

wait wtf

i thought it only was 4 gems

not 12

[topaz badger]

hey, can someone explain to me why according to icyveins guide (assa) the crafted dagger is so bad (even tho it hast optimal stats).. why is regicide and kukri (offhand) better ?

[humble verge]

💀

[humble verge]

double linethread probably sims better

dawnthread

i mean

[royal lantern]

ilvl good

[humble verge]

and yes

[royal lantern]

stats dont matter

[humble verge]

ilvl is a bit better

[royal lantern]

higher ilvl = better

crafted items =not max ilvl

[topaz badger]

so if i am gearing up.. and the dagger have all the same ilvl (619) the crafted one should still be better right?

[royal lantern]

idk

secondary stats are a meme

[topaz badger]

really ? :/

[royal lantern]

if you have 2 weapons at 619, why craft a 619weapon

[humble verge]

yeah but youd rather have 30 crit over 30 vers as assa tho

so its not that of a meme

[royal lantern]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[royal lantern]

you know that thats not true

so stop saying that before i get rude

[humble verge]

you can get as rude as you want

[topaz badger]

its the other way round... thats why im asking.. i have the crafted one and yesterday both dagger dropped for me

but thanks for responding so quickly

[royal lantern]

[humble verge]

before you check yo self

[royal lantern]

answer for 99% of gear related question

[topaz badger]

ye

[royal lantern]

like

ilvl wins

if same ilvl sim

thats wow gearing

[fringe crater]

I mean it's all just stat weighting and indeed, just sim it

for me dagger and double nerubian thingie is better than double dawnthread still

ilvl on OH isn't super big because OH damage is super irrelevant for assas

[topaz badger]

alright thanks

[fringe crater]

I have a second myth dagger at the ready to get to 639 but it still sims better to keep my nerubian 636 OH over getting 2 dawntread gear items

[grim jay]

Well it always will sim better

If you are talking St

[marble wagon]

If DM is about come off cd should I stop unloading into envenom's and refresh rupture/garotte in pandemic/before pandemic to ensure we have them up in our burst window?

Or do we just let them drop, like if dm comes off cd in 10 seconds, and ruptures have 12 seconds left

[fringe crater]

Yeah, I could play around with the percentage threshhold for dawnthread I guess, take my message with a grain of salt as I keep it on the 60% as set by raidbots

[marble wagon]

afaik in the apl / sim it just lets them drop and respreads during dm/kb

[fringe crater]

I dunno, it feels bad to refresh rupture during your burst given that you play fully into supercharger now, and missing a supercharged envenom in KB feels bad

[royal lantern]

you are stinky

:C

[glacial stump]

Refresh dots, before you go into burst

[coral ibex]

40% on court this week, surely it dies soon

[grim jay]

I do have hope for you

[grim jay]

As rogan said, you just refresh

You want scent stacks for your windows

If possible

[winged sun]

man

ass in m+

is so much fun

holy cow

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-cow-holy-cow-gif-25938150

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/arab-monkey-gif-21471466

[spice spire]

[gusty mirage]

where did you find this video leak of me

[grim jay]

In your cloud

[winged sun]

anyone can do log reviews for me

[grim jay]

[gusty mirage]

@spice spire loves it

help the man out quake

he's also mentally ill because he does them on mobile

[winged sun]

maybe i had weird shiv timings apart from that i dont know what i did wrong

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/N6mqTJ7zPpr2KfLW#fight=15&type=damage-done

ty ty

[gusty mirage]

us apes strong together

https://tenor.com/view/gorila-ligón-gif-15180072019903262289

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-my-ass-funny-monkey-gif-15084422

[winged sun]

orc is the best race for dps ye? or is bloodmallet weird

[grim jay]

Imagine blizz releasing an ape race

Oxi would be so back

[royal lantern]

we did the prog classic on sunday

first pull goes into 20%, followed by wiping in P1 for 2 1/2 hours with only a handfull of pulls surviving into the 2nd intermission

[novel star]

yeah not by a huge amount tho

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[coral ibex]

my new guild is pretty good about not repeating mistakes

and not stacking orbs too badly

only 2 days tho so no prog again until next week

[grim jay]

Thats the worst phase of progress

Ngl

[winged sun]

[fallow canopy]

at least at this point with the stacking buff and gear if you have enough damage you can "screw up" the dispels at the end and just kill with the entangle on big beety

no nasty overlappy

[ebon notch]

Xd

[stark scroll]

hozen rogue

[winged sun]

?!

[digital venture]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[digital venture]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[ebon notch]

When you pop everything on prio target and enhance just oneshots it

So fun

[winged sun]

well

assa isn't just doing the rotation normally

its about trying to setup ur bleeds as fast as possibl

so u have to somewhat ninja pull with evasion

and tricks

bleed up and cd insta

[ebon notch]

Wait are you finally tired of outlaw or what

[winged sun]

wdym i always play the best spec

[stark scroll]

there is a reason we are in here

zeross and I exodus in october

then outlaw got buffed and we were already geared

for sin

lol

[winged sun]

never played a bad spec in m+

always the best rogue spec

[winged sun]

well outlaw is rly bad atm

even after all the buffs

i can bet that i will outgap any outlaw by a rly huge amount

[stark scroll]

their numbers are getting better

[winged sun]

if u want

i'll dps race zac today

[stark scroll]

but i can sleep and outperform them

on sin

[winged sun]

pretty sure he can only beat me in target capped dungeons

[stark scroll]

i have to be big brain on outlaw

yeah race him on CoT

[winged sun]

even that dung i feel like its neutral if the tank pulls super big

which should be the case in high keys maybe

[stark scroll]

Yeah we would do good on first pull of 2nd boss

triple pack

and the two packs after that

[winged sun]

i might end up playing outlaw

we're dps racing so i might want to see how washed up i am after that long break

[stark scroll]

I am going to play it for BTM

I got mythic sac last night

and a mythic splice and dice

[minor finch]

Hey I have a quick question with m+. So on a regular pull I put you know mark on the primary target and then blast I was told to not tab target Is there a time when I can to kick bad shit or just stay on target?

[coral ibex]

use a focus kick macro or mouseovers

you don’t need to tab to kick

[minor finch]

Where can I find that

[midnight mist]

you just do a focus macro

so

/focus @mouseover

or is it /focus mouseover

or maybe /focus [@mouseover]

either one

[stark scroll]

I just use a smart tab targeter

i cant mousover

[midnight mist]

then alol your kick/ccs etc can be

/cast [@focus] kick

[stark scroll]

i also havent done anything above a 13

#showtooltip Kick
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead][@focus,harm,nodead] Kick

this one is nice too

[slim pebble]

Heroic mandate > myth spyglass for court prog?

[stark scroll]

I made because i was force to kick fo rbrood

[solar wyvern]

Tbh theres absolutely no dps race in court, spyglass will serve you better overall imo

[worldly bridge]

any rotational differences for fatebound vs deathstalker ?

[royal lantern]

deathstalker=forced max cp envenom for mark applications with the capstone

fatebound=LOL RNG

[hard garnet]

Does fatebound have to potential to outperform deathstalker then? If so what scenario?

The*

[spice spire]

ST only

[worldly bridge]

supposed to be better on pure ST

[hard garnet]

Oh but due to rng?

Or across the board bc I don’t see many logs of it

[spice spire]

Check Kyveza and sikran

Those are the two main

[snow kindle]

even though it sims higher

no one has parsed high enough to justify it

[tall jay]

Spy glass or Emmpowering Crystal for queen?

[snow kindle]

sim both on a 9m fight

[tall jay]

oki

[lilac wind]

Anyway to update LE WA to show algari potions of different ranks

?

I am using rank 2 and it shows i have 0

[worldly bridge]

is there any secret trink that's good for 2T+ cleave ? Thinking about Silken M

[snow kindle]

not rly

all trinkets are good on silken most ppl use crystal tho

[tall jay]

ok

[worldly bridge]

i used to think Araka Sacbrood was the golden go-to until you get the Transmitter but looking at bloodmallet data there is actually a lot of viable // sligthly better option

[coral ibex]

i think your queen kill vod just popped up in my youtube feed unless there’s another assa rogue called genesis who just killed queen recently

[snow kindle]

Iam Genxsis

[coral ibex]

not you i think

[snow kindle]

Das me

[coral ibex]

oh nice

[hollow sphinx]

am i underutilizing caustic?

[spice spire]

Likely

[hollow sphinx]

ty

[wild pine]

Im 633 ilvl, a 615 ret pali is doing more damage than me in general, dungeons and raids. Am i just bad or is ret pali that broken

[spice spire]

Likely both.
Keys it depends on the level

Like in 8s you’ll get smashed for no damage being needed

[wild pine]

What about 10s

[spice spire]

But if you’re in a higher range you should kinda smash

[wild pine]

Which is what we usually so

Do*

[spice spire]

Eh

Even then I kinda have the issue of things not living

But it depends on the other dps there

[glacial stump]

Sounds like a you problem, without being mean

[wild pine]

Yeah generally everything dies so quick, barely have enough time to spread bleeds

[glacial stump]

18ilvl out dps is kinda huge

[spice spire]

Raid is 100% a you thing. Should smash in raid.

But keys I can see

[wild pine]

Thing is i do by a mile except on queen, when we’re both doing same mechs so idk

[spice spire]

Assume hero

[wild pine]

I genuinely dont know whats going on

[spice spire]

And if so

Check p2 damage diff

[glacial stump]

If youre doing lower keys, just skip a few steps in your ramp and just send it into your CDS

[spice spire]

Also p1 should have a static cd spend

[wild pine]

P2 is where my damage falls off yes

[spice spire]

I lose a little p1 but ended up fucking the intermission

[glacial stump]

Best think to do if post a log man

[wild pine]

Cz the queen talent tree is normal single target plus caustic which seems meh

[spice spire]

P3 it’s best to open with vanish to set mark

[wild pine]

Yep exactly what i do

I can send logs in a sec

[spice spire]

log it yeah

[tall jay]

do we sim it as patchwork 1 boss 9min? I also have the egg trinket ... puke

[snow kindle]

yea

add dmg isnt important for ansurek unless its like the worshipper which still isnt rly a problem

[spice spire]

Worshipper? Buddy I hardly know er

[wild pine]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XFxkVKbz1MLgB3TN#fight=58&type=damage-done here was our best queen pull where we almost had her

[tall jay]

This Ovinax egg is going to be the death of me...

[wild pine]

last time we raided i asked myself why do i do half the damage i do in heroic than in the mythic raid

cz thats just insane

[tall jay]

is it worth just macroing it and forgetting about it or do i have to play mini game to actually win

[spice spire]

Hold dm for intermission

Also

Wueenninvolves mechanics

[wild pine]

do you mean after the pull? when the waves are coming

[spice spire]

Yes

Gets out of that phase quicker

And you’re Getting 0 use out of it popping it on cd there

Because mechanic happens and then intermission

[wild pine]

yeah that makes sense

what do i do in p2

i usually ignore the spiders and rush the dude

especially the one with the shield

[snow kindle]

yes thats what you do ideally

[spice spire]

Yeah

I send kb on shield add but like

Nothing lived there

[nimble vector]

Your opener needs some work, use trinket with death mark, vanish last 6s of KB, should always envenom > deathmark > shiv > kb at the start of CDs

[wild pine]

yep i do that

[spice spire]

Damn uggz a real one going in

You want me to thread you king?

[wild pine]

i usually use skardyns a little bit earlier than deathmark cz its 20 seconds while dm is 16

am i not supposed to do that?

[spice spire]

(This isn’t sarcasm btw it’s really appreciated)

Just macro together

It’s less brain power for equal gain, personally

[wild pine]

i do have a macro yeah but i stopped using it because of that haha

[wild pine]

cz of this i mean

[nimble vector]

You will do more damage in the 4s after dm than the 4s before dm most likely

[spice spire]

The case of the curious Ret Pally

[wild pine]

makes sense

the thread name xD

[nimble vector]

I am in bed it is very hard to check logs past the opener on phone

[spice spire]

Weak willed I’m an only mobile enjoyer

[royal lantern]

proving once again that you are the biggest chad on the server

[wild pine]

he do be

[spice spire]

No I have mental Illinois

I’m also seeing a fish

Then going in Watson

[wild pine]

eyoo

buy me dinner first

[royal lantern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392807916543017000/1313582845427716257/IMG_0769.png?ex=6752a31b&is=6751519b&hm=75e12e19e31db7c5f07916442bb53135cb03714c6069e4e2347434f63e200304&

?

[subtle tundra]

hi

i have the bun

[royal lantern]

i have the

[subtle tundra]

nice!

dream team

[cloud marsh]

what language is this btw, i weirdly understand the recipe

[agile wedge]

team does faint help actually in princess intermission?

[coral ibex]

with elusiveness

[agile wedge]

this is ds talent? iam fb currently

[coral ibex]

no

choice node with cheat

[agile wedge]

ah instead of cd

thanks!

[main blaze]

Yeah cheat is problematic on that fight

[agile wedge]

cause if you get executed

it does not trigger?

[spice spire]

Correct

[slim pebble]

After one night of silken prog I think I’m gonna run fatebound on it

Keeping track of mark feels like ass on that fight, and not like @spice spire ‘s ass

[fallow canopy]

with enough reps you get used to it but yea

[spice spire]

Ur a married man mister foss why you feeling some slut

[slim pebble]

[slim pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-dissapear-vanished-gif-13003152

[spice spire]

[arctic socket]

Cum on the bun typa mood

Real

That picture looked rly yummy

[spice spire]

Dog are you good

[coral ibex]

just make a little reminder to save your DN

it’s pretty easy

[spice spire]

If foss keeps making me act up well reenact that recipe 😈

[vivid mulch]

Do we even know the dropchance of items in grim batol, more specifically skardyns?

[arctic socket]

If I had those cinnamon buns I would be a lot better

[spice spire]

1/12 iirc

If you go outlaw 1/11

For skardyns

And that’s if you get an item

[spice spire]

Damn call foss cinnamon buns

[arctic socket]

Naw bro

The picture that was posted

[spice spire]

Yeah I’m tryna get him to post pics lil bro chill

[arctic socket]

Just ask

[spice spire]

Nah

[arctic socket]

Pussy

[spice spire]

I really just want the Luna pics

(He’s already posted pics with him in it)

[fleet patrol]

for the shiv tea macro is it best to have a second keybind for shiv because i didnt think you want to tea on the first shiv before kingsbane

[vivid mulch]

bro

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053037639852380170/1260166045612642324/er.gif

[spice spire]

It’s fine either way xerky

I wouldn’t

[fleet patrol]

ok just wondered thanks @spice spire

[arctic socket]

https://tenor.com/view/real-spider-man-sad-walking-rain-gif-1924155781469686297

[spice spire]

No worries homie

Glhf

[spice spire]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/a97e5b7c34badf7bd33e6a9ca6ea829e/b7c1dd4293a0091d-c1/s640x960/4d15e643a36166d3a73024cc01c8d349aedcccce.gif

[arctic socket]

I read that wrong at first

[winged sun]

ambush on 1st pack circled with red (double rupture), into garroting orange packs into crimson tempest and double garrote rupture gatekeeper+blue circled pack into mutilate envenom(full cp) +cds any better ideas?

all packs circled in black will be affected by crimson tempest

and re applied to everyone once it falls off

[coral ibex]

[subtle tundra]

????

just give me your account man

i can play for you

[violet berry]

Yall takin iron wire on seige?

[main hemlock]

can you already have max raid buff from finery ?

or how many times is max this week?

[stark scroll]

should be at 9%

(actually 9.25 or something) but it will say 9%

[main hemlock]

alright thank you

[shy creek]

I'm trying to learn how to review logs myself accurately, is there a way I can check what stack my deathstalker's mark was on, and where I have darkest night

I can tell that Im using it on the boss by the damage, but I can't tell if I'm holding DN

On certain parts incorrectly

[snow kindle]

you should get a DS tracker wa

[shy creek]

Im talking about purely logs

Not ingame

[grim jay]

I can send you pics

[snow kindle]

what does holdign DN mean

[shy creek]

On Ansurek, you hold DN on the intermission shield so you have it for platforms

That way you can send DN on platforms

[grim jay]

holding deez nuts

[shy creek]

Same with Ulgrax

[grim jay]

ye, you just make sure you have DN up when boss disappears

[shy creek]

Silken you needa have DN on the right timer for then ext damage amp as well

[grim jay]

no matter how you do it

[shy creek]

Yeah I just wanna be able to check it

[nimble vector]

for stacks of deathstalkers mark just click enemies > select deathstalkers mark debuff

[snow kindle]

[dawn heath]

how long is it gonna be until we have the full ring unlocked?

[waxen field]

Hi, i'm progging on princess, thought i had assa relatively mastered but i find myself lackign in dps (at least i feel like so), but i can't really see what im doing bad, i mean i could have a bit higher uptime on both garrote and rupture but i don't feel that this would implies that much of a change.
Does anyone have a bit of time to look at logs ? (im also not sure where to look at this point)

[spice spire]

I can in a bit

[snow kindle]

link em

[waxen field]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/63Q1nAhygqGtjBCM#fight=76&type=damage-done&start=17206257&end=17567017

tyvm

[grim jay]

6 weeks after release

is maxed ring

[dawn heath]

so bad

so basicly ring comes out

no one wants to wear it until like week 5-6

[grim jay]

no

it all depends on how strong the gems are

[dawn heath]

this ppatch is such a joke

[spice surge]

Theyre just gonna buff it

So its good

[noble flume]

i should priorize regicide over blood kissed mythic?

[grim jay]

the one that sims higher

[dawn heath]

I kinda just wanted to push my title keys and be done with the season

but it seems like i'm gonna have to wait for the patch then aqnother 6 weeks

before i can play the game

[snow kindle]

you dont need a ring to push title

[dawn heath]

but if its overpowered its gonna result in title shooting up +150 rating or whatever

so if u play without the ring and then its released later

and u are inactive

[wet plover]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[dawn heath]

lets say i farm 3400 now then quit for the season

that would be enough if they didnt drop a ring

but now its most likely gonna shoot up beyond that which means i need to play when ring is out

[snow kindle]

maybe but i dont think itll have that big of an impact

[dawn heath]

depends how op it is

if its a 5-10% dps gain then it will absolutely have a massive impact

10% hp scaling is a full key level

[grim jay]

best bet is it will end up somewhere around the same as the DF ring

[slate crown]

<Horny leashed doggirl dot jay peg>

[modern barn]

Need help, my rogue assassination goes out of Mana very soon in Delve and Dungeons.

[spice spire]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[coral ibex]

stop spamming

you won’t run out of energy

[royal lantern]

bro i run out of energy when going up the stairs

[slate crown]

well were you spamming?

[coral ibex]

[modern barn]

I am new in WOW, this is my character.

I am not sure how to fix it.

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/out-of-shape-out-of-breath-too-hot-the-studio-handsome-filipe-gif-17315062

[slate crown]

You don't fix it. That's how the class is played. Read this: #assassination message

[cobalt sphinx]

what talents are you using

[shy creek]

ty

[modern barn]

Thanks

[cobalt sphinx]

yeah looks fine, the build just runs out of energy

[modern barn]

Yeah.

[cobalt sphinx]

your build is fine, just make sure you are spreading bleeds and fanning for venemous vim

[sharp viper]

in the Edit Mode you can assign keybindings as you like to the ability slots on your bars

[cobalt sphinx]

so you should be good on aoe on energy but single target sucks

[modern barn]

Correct.

[rotund oak]

[idle radish]

how do u guys appproach silken court? gonna help my sin rogue friend

[grim jay]

typically jumping while in stealth

[idle radish]

i got got

[cerulean nest]

CDs on damage amps

gg

[grim jay]

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/rogue-assassination/the-silken-court is pretty good to see what people do

[humble verge]

i just ambush gatekeeper, double garr and rup and then i go into cds

damage will be enough from the other 2 dps anyways

[idle radish]

i feel like the annoying part is when you consume darkest night (swap marks on target)

[grim jay]

I mean... potentially. thats just something you gotta have in the back of your head

[chilly bay]

does anyone use transmitter? is this really more worthy than skardyn?

[humble verge]

i hate mark fr fr

[grim jay]

its better yes

is it worth? depends

[humble verge]

like

if you get the orb or the jump

transmitter is fine

but depending on where the spot-placement is

[snow kindle]

transmitter better burst

[humble verge]

ofc

[snow kindle]

skars better consistency

[grim jay]

the spot placement is aimable

if people still have issues with that

[humble verge]

yeah i know its like

[grim jay]

then idk

[humble verge]

top left?

no

top right*

of where you place yourslef

[chilly bay]

76% of top100 rogues use skardyn instead of transmitter so I thought it was obvious that skardyn is better than this

[grim jay]

no, its just better to use

[chilly bay]

so just because it's easier to use?

understood

[grim jay]

the difference is kinda low

and you dont need to think

[snow kindle]

most ppl get there shit from vault tbh

alot of classes beside rogue use transmitter aswell

[gentle rover]

After branch last season I vowed to never pick up a mini game trinket again lol

[idle radish]

do you guys try and have darkest night line up for dmg amp?

[coral ibex]

yes

[rotund oak]

for me skadryns just sims better,all i need to know.Transmitter also sus coz it can bait u into mehcanics to get the buff,check ur deathlog while at it

[idle radish]

how long is too long to hold it

[coral ibex]

your mark should be on the amped target

[coral ibex]

more than 30s lol

bc you will lose the buff

[idle radish]

i mean yeah lol

but like, surely at like 20 seconds you simply lose cast of it

[coral ibex]

there’s no damage check on court

you can stop hitting the boss for multiple minutes at a time it won’t matter

so however long you want to hold it

probably don’t reapply marks within 10s of a transition

bc it doesn’t take much more than 10s to consume 3 marks

[idle radish]

can someone explain the variance of first DM usage on court?

is it simply, first DM can be used while adds+stacked bosses + you dont get a full one on amp?

[humble verge]

anyone here who have had to focus the extra add in blood?

as in saving KB for it or just going with normal rotation

[coral ibex]

someone asked about that like a week ago and the conclusion was tell your RL to stop smoking crack and put literally anyone else on that job