assassination

[subtle tundra]

sanguine blades

[frosty bridge]

samgije

[midnight mist]

ah

[frosty bridge]

bladd

wtf

[warm vortex]

When you do like 14s, or so IMO, you have enough time to setup. But as Varas said try the Serated bone spike one

It makes it so when you rupture you immediately get like 4-6 CP or something

What was your dps like in those keys

[midnight mist]

i didnt know that

i dont like sanguine tho

shit talnte

stealing my energy

[brazen sluice]

with aug in nw i did like 2.6m overall

[subtle tundra]

well you dont notice it anyway

[subtle tundra]

your build is also worse for aug, cause its an execute build and aug wants more direct dmg

on pull

[brazen sluice]

im no expert just trying to master rogue

[warm vortex]

Fairs
If you are enjoying the build then you can keep playing it. But I would suggest trying the SVS as Varas said
And sometimes if you are pugging, taking iron wire could be good as it provides a very nice silence. In GB I always take it

[subtle tundra]

yea knowing your talents is the first step

i wouldnt play without subterfuge, ever

[brazen sluice]

i hate shortcuts for talents what is svs

[subtle tundra]

sbs

[warm vortex]

I typed it wrong

I’m silly

[tawdry mica]

serrated bone spikes

[brazen sluice]

oh kk

[warm vortex]

I’m in uni class atm on my phone with fat fingers

[brazen sluice]

thats why i love rogue help channels , the sacrfies they make to answer is unreal ty

[midnight mist]

i love subt

let me be bad

very yuge

[frosty bridge]

fuck wat though

[subtle tundra]

????

WaT goated

[tawdry mica]

what should my build look like if I always play with an aug? didn't know that

[midnight mist]

who is wat

!wat

[subtle tundra]

2nd vanish

[frosty bridge]

Idk man

[subtle tundra]

goated

[warm vortex]

But yea
SBS = serrated bone spike
SD = sudden demise
SB = sanguine blades
KB = kingsbane
WaT = without a trace
TTK = twist the knife

Here are one I would say are used commonly

[frosty bridge]

WAT = WITHOUT A TRACE

[subtle tundra]

like every build people in high keys play

[frosty bridge]

you forgot the goat

[warm vortex]

Tbf I need to get my rota better

No I just typed it wrong

[tawdry mica]

fair

[warm vortex]

Again

Because I’m a moron

[midnight mist]

no way you guys call without a trace wat

[subtle tundra]

WaT

WAT??

[midnight mist]

assa people are ocoekd no cap

[subtle tundra]

ass*

[frosty bridge]

sin

[brazen sluice]

lmao

[warm vortex]

Wait it’s WoT or WaT

[outer cairn]

Miss you all. 4 more months till I can get back and play again. I hope Sin has been holding up

[frosty bridge]

World of Tanks

So WoT

[warm vortex]

Tbf
I feel like I do nice raid damage but just shit M+ dps

[midnight mist]

we call it double vanish

[warm vortex]

I’d why

[midnight mist]

over in outlaw channel

[warm vortex]

*idk

[midnight mist]

we are more simple minded

[warm vortex]

Like maybe my CT uptime is shit? Usually at like 50%

[frosty bridge]

who even plays outlaw nowadays

[brazen sluice]

100% agree

[subtle tundra]

zac do you like double vanish on assa?

let me flame you

[midnight mist]

well

[subtle tundra]

if your answer is no, youre bad

[frosty bridge]

every time i watch your stream you're playing sin

[midnight mist]

i never played it varas

[frosty bridge]

so

[midnight mist]

i know you told me last time to play it

but i forgot

[warm vortex]

Uhm Aschkyually, some high builds Chan Run ITr 🤓☝️

[midnight mist]

wtf do i even do with the second vanish

[subtle tundra]

having more garrotes for when you play IW
having vanish for aoe for bosses where adds spawn(arakara first boss)
mists first boss

[warm vortex]

Use it

[frosty bridge]

thats what im saying

[subtle tundra]

NW 2nd boss

[midnight mist]

i never play with iw

[warm vortex]

But yea I need to post a log review next time I try a 12 to see why I’m so washed up

[midnight mist]

shit talent for noobs no cap

[warm vortex]

[subtle tundra]

idk if you dont play it in stonevault/grimba

youre trollin

[frosty bridge]

do you just send 2nd charge regardless of kingsbane or

[midnight mist]

we just kick

[warm vortex]

I just use my 2nd charge when I need to

[subtle tundra]

no way you can kick all of those

[warm vortex]

So if tank chain pulls or I need to re add rupture

[subtle tundra]

when you pull big

[midnight mist]

prot pal render my iw useless

[subtle tundra]

nah

[midnight mist]

you wont convince me to play iw

unless you do

[subtle tundra]

half our pulls in stonevault are constant casters

[midnight mist]

i will wait to be convinced

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/chuyfoxy-cat-kitten-angry-kitten-kicking-cat-gif-23206688

Bro kicks like this

[midnight mist]

kicking is so overrated anyway

[subtle tundra]

also we dont play enha so we cant high roll kill the pull in 30sec

[midnight mist]

not playing enha in 2024

bruh

[warm vortex]

I will Give you a guaranteed max RtN for one run w iron wire

[midnight mist]

[midnight mist]

who is rtn

[warm vortex]

I’m fucking useless

Aren’t I

RtB

[midnight mist]

ya

[subtle tundra]

not gonna tell the 1 trick to swap specs when i wouldnt either cause im a 1 trick

[warm vortex]

XD

[subtle tundra]

that would be hypocritical

[warm vortex]

Tbh I do kinda wanna play outlaw as it seems much easier than Assa M+

[midnight mist]

wtf you got 2 one trick already ?

want a third or

[warm vortex]

Nd also one handed mog

[subtle tundra]

not playing with frenchies

sorry

[warm vortex]

But tbh, I don’t know what I’m doing wrong in M+

[midnight mist]

aint no wae

[warm vortex]

Like I’ve gotten 2 95s so far in mythic

[midnight mist]

varas

[solar wyvern]

Nice Hat Zac, glad to see SOME PEOPLE have a festive spirit

:^)

[subtle tundra]

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[subtle tundra]

I WANT HAT TOO

aaaaaa

[midnight mist]

at some point i will want to do damage as sin i think

so i will go read wowhead guide

when that time come

would you be willing to watch a vod of a key, and tell me if i have things i still can do better

the time hasnt come yet

[warm vortex]

I would need to get my oc drawn with a Christmas thing to change it

[midnight mist]

but it will

[warm vortex]

Tbf I could do that

[subtle tundra]

let me know and i can help!

i love talking about assa

[midnight mist]

i cant say the same

[warm vortex]

Yea I can help you too zac
Just sometimes I might not be the best

Well I love you Varas

You good

[midnight mist]

imma start playing double vanish

you convinced me

[brazen sluice]

could u send me the talent build for m+? no iron wire ofc

[midnight mist]

(i did a dslice sim and it sims higher )

[solar wyvern]

Im still a forced induction believer tbh

[brazen sluice]

x2 vanish simming higher than 1 lethality for me too

[subtle tundra]

i can give you examples everywhere why double vanish is good

ofc it sims higher

not gonna tell you why

but dslice is not a good representation

[midnight mist]

i think it can help me anyway

cause im still very bad at the game

and i often forget about deathsatlker

on bosses with intermission

like gb third boss

that will come tho

[warm vortex]

Personally

[midnight mist]

but i do suck no cap

[warm vortex]

I would advice taking IW in SV/GB

Other dungeons IG you can drop it if you really need the dps

[solar wyvern]

I've just come to the conclusion my job is to press darkest night on the elementals and ignore the first boss phase

[warm vortex]

But for me I always run it unless it’s MoTS or SoB then I am more open to dropping it

[midnight mist]

I always need the DPS I'm trinna outdps an enhance cuh

[warm vortex]

Is it a good idea to swap to a low hp target to mutilate then DN them

[brazen sluice]

this guy represents my mindset

[warm vortex]

Or nah

Fair

[brazen sluice]

i got beaten by ele

[warm vortex]

I do not have a premade

[solar wyvern]

You can solo the totems with DN envenoms in stonevault

[warm vortex]

And pug everything

[solar wyvern]

Dont even need mut

[brazen sluice]

pugs sux

[warm vortex]

So I go for IW
I assume you have a premade Abo?

[warm vortex]

I meant for like

[brazen sluice]

yeh

[warm vortex]

Low heath targets in pulls

[brazen sluice]

got ele aug prot pala and resto shaman team

[warm vortex]

Ok yea it’s fair to drop then

But I think you can see why I prefer running it in pugs

Haha

[brazen sluice]

yeh got u

[warm vortex]

Same reason I run double vanish

Because pug routes vary so much

[brazen sluice]

yeh and chain pulling kills in pugs

[warm vortex]

But imo it’s a good thing you can change a lot of talents

Imo it’s more so chain pulling badly

Like if a tank gets smth, waits 3 sec then pulls more its fine

But if it’s like
The pack after throng in GB where there is the ascend dude, they pull him and another pack and like 12 sec later pull another
It’s like
Why

[brazen sluice]

i feel u man

[warm vortex]

Yeye

Plus I’m not a pusher
Got 3K and I might do another 14 if I get bored some day

Cause rn I’m pretty geared at 636 so I just need vault items and that’s it

Picked up Beast master and I’m liking it

[subtle tundra]

need to play monk more...

[brazen sluice]

its been 8 years since i plaied wow on and off and my dream didint come true till this moments , mained most of dps , now mained rogue to try to achieve it , ( getting CE M+ title and glad rank in pvp ) all in 1 season , and rogue looks best fit now

[warm vortex]

Yea, Assa is good raiding too atm

I mainly play Assa for fun so I’m happy it’s good too

[jade abyss]

endboss ara ara we shadowstep under 1 second when he casts his purple circle spell?

[warm vortex]

You can

But I’m personally not good enough to time it

[jade abyss]

thank you

[icy nacelle]

hi guys, do we play the dagger that drops in necrotic wake (stichflesh's scalpel) ? it is crit/mastery but in every guide, they pick other daggers with hase/master or crit/versa. is that dagger just bad?

[warm vortex]

Sim

Stats can change depending on character

For example rn I got like 13% haste even if Crit mast is our best. My haste items are just simming higher

[icy nacelle]

imo this dagger is perfekt, i would sim it ofc but why is no guide recomending it

ahh ok

i mean makes sense

[warm vortex]

Yea

Tbh the main draw of a dagger is the dps

So if for example you have 2 heroic ones and a mythic one comes up in vault, don’t pass on it because it’s not “good stats”
The weapon damage is the main part of daggers. Hence why OH are a lot worse than MH

[icy nacelle]

ofc i would choose ilvl over stats

but im grinding for the necro dagger atm, maybe its wasted

[warm vortex]

Fair

I haven’t had to grind in a bit

The only big one was GB and even then I got lucky

31 runs for grace

[nova python]

also guide assumes top gear with exact item combination that show best results, if you will have 1-2 items different than this specific guide for you another dagger might sim better

[nova python]

it dropped in my 1st run for someone and they didn’t need xd

[warm vortex]

Lolll

[nova python]

same with sacbrood

[warm vortex]

But yea for example I have 13% haste despite it being not as good as crit or mast
But simming says like
Wear the sikran neck in ST over the Crit/mast one for example

So yea, sim everything and don’t throw away gear

[frosty bridge]

aint no way you're still a goblin

[warm vortex]

Why the hell would I change

[frosty bridge]

[warm vortex]

Why

I’m not a caster so I don’t get LoS blocked by grass

[frosty bridge]

https://youtu.be/RIG7TwwjS38?si=pV_jpwR2KhWCkAlL

[pliant remnant]

86 for me, and I ended up paying an elemental shaman 200k for one on the 86th run

but that was just to get my 606 WUE Skardyn's to a Hero track one

just couldn't be arsed to go back there anymore

That's the kind of luck you get when you get a WUE Skardyn's in the first GB run you do in a season

[warm vortex]

Lol

I’m sorry for your loss

Hope next season goes better

[rotund oak]

u betrayed our faith to the cause

keep fighting

im the only one left

[arctic socket]

Yall don’t have 6 skardyns?

[solar wyvern]

Fate decided it for me

Kill Kyveza

A transmitter!

Whats that noise???

Buh gawd, its Skadryn's from the next vault!

Now i have both xd

[frosty bridge]

Double on use gaming

[grim jay]

People that had issues farming are just too weak

[grim jay]

For me it can only get better in terms of vault

[subtle tundra]

youre going on my note

[slate crown]

The Thistle Tea bubbles and bar on the far left side of the energy bar will not dynamically adjust, that one you may have to modify if you care to have it scale up (though you may just leave it as is, it won't break it will just be relatively smaller).

The Kingsbane shiv timer locations will work dynamically, you are free to extend that bar and the tick/icon positions will adjust dynamically.

[orchid pewter]

Already sold 4

[vast shuttle]

how to i get a mythic key?

[tawdry mica]

How should I read a sim with SD talented? Since I can't find it in the result

Like more or less how much of an impact does it have

[tawdry mica]

talk to the panda next to the portal in the m+ portal room

[vast shuttle]

ty

[subtle tundra]

it is not part of the sim.

the execute is a bonus

[tawdry mica]

Yeah I see

man it's hard to choose between SD and TtK since i'm simming higher with the first, assuming SD doesn't even show up there

[subtle tundra]

what about sanguine blades

[tawdry mica]

sorry what about it?

[subtle tundra]

its a 3-way choice, this whole ttk sd sanguine debacle

[tawdry mica]

Oh I never thought of removing SB

lemme check

[snow quest]

Can also drop sbs and get all of sd, ttk and iw

[tawdry mica]

sim-wise, SB+SD give the best result

I'll try dropping sbs later

[subtle tundra]

yes i might drop sbs in IW dungeons(stonevault, grimba)

[subtle tundra]

yes cause sims tend to prefer the aoe heavy options

cause they dont care about doing more prio

or funneling into boss

etc

[lusty hedge]

Guys is it better to cast crimson first before rapturing if the mobs are grouped and i cant stealth

[tawdry mica]

i see

but anyways the difference between sb, sd and ttk shouldn't be that big right

specially doing 11-12 keys for now i cba about higher keys atm

[snow quest]

You can play whatever build you like out of those yeah

[subtle tundra]

Yes you shouldn't care

[tawdry mica]

that's nice to hear

[snow quest]

Rupture first then ct so you don't have to refresh CT during cds I think

[tiny brook]

What CT stands for?

[snow quest]

Crimson Tempest

[tiny brook]

Ok thank you

It’s nice to read what people opinions are on class you are trying to play

Sometimes I don’t understand what you are talking about

[lusty hedge]

ı having trouble deciding how many raptures i need to cast before going into cds couse mobs are dying fast in early keys

[snow quest]

2 casts I think is plenty, even if you send into same target you still get 5 total which is enough for energy

[vast loom]

get 5 out in total, usually 2 casts with no tab targeting is plenty

[lusty hedge]

2 cast of garrote and 2 cast of rapture right ?

[spice surge]

You want 5 ruptures for your scent

Stealthed garrote is just a fine builder to use if there are targets without it

[snow quest]

Garrote you can keep using a bit more if you want

[lusty hedge]

But if i cant stralth ?

[snow quest]

For 12s after breaking stealth

After that it's no point in spreading more garrotes I think

[spice surge]

besides stealthed garrotes your bleeds are pretty much only used to get scent and energy, not for their damage itself

So you'd want enough bleeds to sustain you and get scent, which are both 5 targets

[lusty hedge]

i see

[spice surge]

So you dont need to non-stealth garrote unless you cant have 5 ruptures out

[lusty hedge]

But still do i need to spread rapture manually to 5 target if i cant stealth

[spice surge]

Yes

Otherwise youll have no energy

[snow quest]

That's why 2 vanish charges is nice in pugs

[spice surge]

Most of the time if you cant stealth you should already have a rupture or two

on the previous mobs

[snow quest]

Can also try to kill the remaining mobs in the old pack without touching the new pack if tank chains

You can often get a restealth in that way

[lusty hedge]

its very clear now thanks for your help guys

[coral ibex]

who’s ready for vault pics in ~2h

[arctic socket]

I’m rdy for your pictures

[sharp viper]

EU gotta wait :/

[novel star]

i will get a ring i will get a ring i will get a ring

or a transmitter for sub

[fallow canopy]

[shut aspen]

I to am willing a ring

too*

[rotund oak]

be careful what u wish for guys

i ended up breaking up

[arctic socket]

My vault

Will be loaded

I didn’t do a damn thing so

[rotund oak]

im gonna have the worse vaults the entire season,im farming my 10s 24/7 no trinkets no wpns

[arctic socket]

I could be item lvl 637.5 ish

[rotund oak]

im resigned to my fate

[arctic socket]

But I’m too lazy to get crests

[coral ibex]

i only have 2 myth boxes for raid and m+ i was busy progging the new xiv ultimate and didn’t do all my chores

[spice spire]

I’m a 3m+ only enjoyer box this week

[coral ibex]

surely i get boots to replace my 619

[spice spire]

Easy 2/3 of a socket

[arctic socket]

Craft

[novel star]

2 raid 1 m+ for me, i was busy jerking off

and crying

[spice spire]

Why draft when in vault

[spice spire]

Dog are you good

[novel star]

yeah i’m alright

[spice spire]

[shut aspen]

after 3 years of endgame prog in xxiv, wow mechanics felt trivial

[novel star]

xiv bosses look so fun

[shut aspen]

ultimate game of simon says

[novel star]

why rest of game so bad

i wanna level in 5 hours like wow

[shut aspen]

its fun, but if you're not into the story and ffxiv culture... cutscenes, etc, it gets old pretty quick

it's super repetitive

[novel star]

i’m not into the story in wow either

or any mmo i’ve played

[spice spire]

Love cutscenes into cutscenes

[novel star]

i’m just a gamer

[dawn heath]

are u guys not gearcapped by now

or very close

[novel star]

Everywhere except a ring

[spice spire]

Nah I’m a filthy casual atm

[snow quest]

Chance of getting an upgrade in vault seems not great rn

[novel star]

one of my rings is hero ansurek and the other one is just a regular useless hero ring

[dawn heath]

just craft a ring

[novel star]

no

[rotund oak]

will be 634-ish after reset most likely

[dawn heath]

ill be crafting a ring

[rotund oak]

but capped no not rly

[novel star]

crafting is more expensive

[spice surge]

Crafting doesnt get you the gilded discounts

[rotund oak]

its whatever now

[spice surge]

Need 639

[rotund oak]

craft isnt that expensive now

[novel star]

i don’t mean gold idc about gold

[rotund oak]

only wpns

[novel star]

crests

[rotund oak]

ah crests ye

[novel star]

[dawn heath]

gear status

[rotund oak]

thats an issue

[dawn heath]

crafting a ring on reset

[novel star]

i have to optimize my crests that i can’t use on anything else anyway

[dawn heath]

then its only a trinket left

[novel star]

[rotund oak]

decked out

bro has everything

[novel star]

holding crests for next patch bro

[rotund oak]

can remember like a month ago u had no gear and what was the rotation and all and now look at you

gg my man

[shut aspen]

I need to replace my vet poison pact lol

[dawn heath]

yeah

i mean

i've gotten okay at the class

still not good good

[hearty coral]

40 fps on dormogal is ok or i should have 60?

[dawn heath]

m+ has a tremendously high skill ceiling

playing assa in raids has been really easy

[rotund oak]

cant remember an fps police lurking

u are fine dw

[hearty coral]

its the first time using my new pc do im not sure

[dapper cradle]

New pc pog

Specs?

[dawn heath]

new pc is super pog

i remember g oing from a cluster fuck of lag to having 0 fps drops in 30man raiding playing on ultra graphics

[novel star]

ye

[shut aspen]

its subjective, but I get around 60-80 in dornogal unless im staring into the bank but I have "most" settings around medium mark except for aliasing and textures which are max

[novel star]

but somehow ppl fuck it up still

[dawn heath]

there is skill variance in classic raids

when u only press 1 button

people fuck everything up

[novel star]

fair

[dawn heath]

i remember reliably beating all our other raiders in tbc as a warlock when the rotation was literally just shadowbolt and life tap

[coral ibex]

you can’t say the quiet part out loud bro

[placid radish]

didn't ffxiv have shit raiding

[hearty coral]

anyone has the kb wa that shows the stacks and dmg?

please

[midnight mist]

helo zech

one letter in your name is wrong

should be zach

fix

[hearty coral]

No, im Zechs

[placid radish]

yeah ultimate raiding is 8man or I'm missing something
that's shit raiding

[deep gyro]

I dont think its shit raiding however gear diversity doesnt exist.

[deep gyro]

Cause it’s 8man?

[snow quest]

Isn't the kb wa still counting to 99 btw?

[coral ibex]

that’s a great opinion you have, thanks for sharing

[placid radish]

8 people is a raid?

[coral ibex]

brother you think 20 is a raid?

[placid radish]

ye definitely

[slate crown]

probably, the author stopped playing

you can make a WA to show you stacks

[coral ibex]

if you aren’t exploiting 80 people into classic raids don’t talk to me

[snow quest]

8 sounds pretty close to m+

[deep gyro]

Ok. I see where ur coming from sorry i fed this conversation. Not worth

[slate crown]

you literally have a buff on your character

that syas your stack number

[snow quest]

Yeah it's easy

[hearty coral]

https://wago.io/PFTo3o6Ug

here is the wa

[slate crown]

what times we used to live in

[novel star]

least braindead wow player

me need big number

small number.. bad

[placid radish]

it's not about big numbers

[novel star]

yes it is

[placid radish]

it's about personal responsibility having higher impact in bigger raid sizes

[novel star]

you cant make any valid points about mechanics as xiv bosses have been gapping wow bosses for years mechanically

and also, that’s just wrong it’s the other way around

you can make harder mechanics with higher individual responsibility in smaller raid sizes

[deep gyro]

It basically is because it’s ur only reason. Have u even tried it? Dps checks are insane in ff14 starting out.

[shut aspen]

complete opposite

[novel star]

the bigger you go the soupier it gets

as far as responsibility goes

[deep gyro]

There is no point in reasoning with a person who’s only argument is 8<20.

[novel star]

but it’s whatever you’ve probably just never actually thought about this opinion you have

you just got it from somewhere and repeated it

which is normal and fine

but boring

[placid radish]

how would that be opposite if we are talking probability?

[novel star]

how does adding 12 people give every individual person more impact/responsibility

[placid radish]

if that were true I wouldn't write more than sentence and I just did

[novel star]

you wrote words that don’t make any sense like this shit yea

[deep gyro]

Giving an opinion about something you haven’t tried is crazy.

[placid radish]

probability
already explained

[novel star]

[placid radish]

okay

another question

[novel star]

homie said probability

[marble hemlock]

can one of you explain to me how this dispute is assa related?

[novel star]

no

[placid radish]

what do you think raid should be? and how should they differentiate from other content?

[marble hemlock]

not that theres much else going on atm

[coral ibex]

have you ever raided ultimate in FF?

if you haven’t i don’t care about your opinion of it bc you have genuinely no idea of the difficulty

[spice spire]

I can make things happen

If that’ll make you feel better

[marble hemlock]

ill raid your ass. ultimate.

[spice spire]

[novel star]

a group of people coming together to kill bosses with harder mechanics than you can find in a dungeon

you cant put raid mechanics on dungeon bosses

[coral ibex]

most people who have done both will agree that ff ultimate raids are equal to or harder than mythic end bosses

[novel star]

which makes them relatively kinda uninteresting

[placid radish]

where did I said that ultimate raids are easy

mate

[marble hemlock]

wouldnt go that far

heavily depends on the ultimate

[deep gyro]

U said shit raiding

[placid radish]

how old are you
like really
dude

[coral ibex]

well you said they’re not real raiding which implies it

[deep gyro]

What did u mean by that then

[marble hemlock]

FRU does seems significantly easier than dsr or top

[coral ibex]

probably older than you

[marble hemlock]

either way

your cock fight is entertaining. continue

[novel star]

i just think this guys brain is interesting and i want to hear more about why player count matters

[placid radish]

#assassination message
this is what my original post was about

[novel star]

cause even like destiny raids have access to so much cool shit wow can never try to do

cause of the limitations of 20players

[placid radish]

not that "ultimate raids are easier"

[deep gyro]

Ur original post said ff14 has shit raiding followed by 8 people is no raid

[marble hemlock]

i mean that argument goes both ways, no? wow raids can make a lot more intriciate mechanics that require a lot more coordination, simply cause they have more players?

[coral ibex]

[marble hemlock]

(nevermind the fact that that coordination usually just means a weakaura tells you what to do)

[coral ibex]

[placid radish]

exactly

[deep gyro]

Exposed

[novel star]

They could but they never do because it’d be too hard giving all 20 people that much responsibility. And also communication with group sizes like this becomes very cancer

[deep gyro]

What does shit raiding mean to you then?

[subtle tundra]

FF 🛌

[novel star]

in a destiny raid all 6 players are talking all the time and it works

[marble hemlock]

amirdrassil quite literally did though, and its why we saw 2 300+ pull boss fights back to back

[placid radish]

#assassination message

I'm repeating this question a third time

holy shit

[marble hemlock]

to no ones surprise, the different raid sizes have pros and cons for both games

crazy

[coral ibex]

how about you explain what “shit raiding” means

[placid radish]

reveal your age first

with proof

[marble hemlock]

[placid radish]

timestamped

[novel star]

i think just different definitions of coordination maybe

[coral ibex]

lmao you’re 17 years old

[marble hemlock]

with todays newspaper?

[novel star]

[deep gyro]

You arent just good at explaining, since most people here dont understand. You just a troll . Definitely no need to feed

[coral ibex]

guaranteed

[placid radish]

exactly

[novel star]

this is actually based

if you gave your own

but you didn’t so it’s not based

[subtle tundra]

I'm 12

[marble hemlock]

i mean, more people = harder to coordinate. thats why you end up having more than just 1 person calling the shots at some point, because you have to compartmentalize responsibilities and duties

[coral ibex]

this kid just wants to say LOL UR OLD and then repeat

[subtle tundra]

Also ad hominem

[coral ibex]

here’s your verification

[placid radish]

you are underage

that's shit writing

[novel star]

that’s true i just think when you have a smaller group you can stack more things that require coordination cause of it being like easier fundamentally

[novel star]

define shit writing

[deep gyro]

Lmao got em

[marble hemlock]

i mean, its obviously not black and white

smaller groupsizes can require much more precise positioning as a result, and can be more individually punishing

ultimately one isnt necessarily better than the other just due to group size or any other single difference

[coral ibex]

https://youtu.be/mLoeKAPX7TQ?si=VSV6ZYpgQkM0kxR0

here’s my DSR clear, i do the content

[spice surge]

Yet they sometimes make mechanics like early tindral seeds, which is definitely more in the category youre talking about

But its for 20 people

Which makes it insanely difficult

[marble hemlock]

its almost like its possible to like both, and have preferences on certain things in one game, and then also stuff you like more in the other game

[coral ibex]

feel free to try to beat my prog speed of 860 pulls over 5 weeks

[marble hemlock]

imagine fyrakk without weakauras

wouldve easily hit 800+

[coral ibex]

it’s a 7 phase 20 min fight

shits tough lol

[midnight mist]

they massively failed tho

fyrakk weak aura dies of cringe

[marble hemlock]

but pullcount means very little in terms of difficulty/enjoyable challenge. tindral had a super high pullcount but was a dogshit boss

[marble hemlock]

cool. thaemine was >35-45minutes on release on ilvl. so what.

[spice surge]

🚫 Wrong, tindral was bangin

[marble hemlock]

are we playing baseball cards in 5th grade school yard fashion where bigger number = i win?

[faint vessel]

wasnt Tindral actually liked by the RWF guilds? not disputing, it seems like a shit fight to me

I recall recently Max referring to it as one of the best fights theyve made in a while and I was really surprised

[marble hemlock]

well yeah

[faint vessel]

I touched it once on mythic for a few pulls and thought 'fuck this'

[marble hemlock]

it was a fight designed for the top 3 guilds pmuch

[coral ibex]

no bro it’s just more detail about the fight lol

[marble hemlock]

everyone else hated it

[placid radish]

looks like a glorified dungeon

[spice surge]

Tindral was phenomenal to prog

[marble hemlock]

exactly because it was a fight made for those people

tindral can suck my left nut

and then get a hair stuck between his teeth

[subtle tundra]

If your guild is shit, you can't brute force it

If your guild was good, one of the best ever

[spice surge]

My impression is that the vast majority of HoF type raiders loved it

[coral ibex]

beyond your capabilities i fear

[marble hemlock]

so many of the more recent end-tier fights are just dogshit

[faint vessel]

which was a problem because the bosses priopr to tindral were a lot easier, right?

[marble hemlock]

cause theyre designed to be beaten by the RWF guilds and then require either insane amounts of pulls, the absolute creme de la creme of raiders, or very heavy nerfs to be killable

[subtle tundra]

Tindral made me feel like I was useful, not just on random person in the raid

[marble hemlock]

a fight where DPS have to taunt the boss to ensure spawns on a mechanic arent dogshit can already go fuck itself

[novel star]

ye sometimes fs but it’d be a lot more common/viable with smaller groups i think

[spice surge]

Ye

[novel star]

i like wow raiding regardless both are cool was mostly just interested in that one guys brain

but he stopped being funny :(

[novel star]

agree

[marble hemlock]

lost ark raids are better than both anyway

wcyd

[novel star]

never played or watched lost ark anything

korean mmo upgrade mechanics gave me cancer

[marble hemlock]

ye

rest of the game is kinda ass

well not all of it, but upgrading/gearing system

but their raids are insanely fun

[novel star]

sadge

[marble hemlock]

@earnest remnant can confirm

and whatever stealthi says is the law

[novel star]

every mmo ever: good raids but the rest of the game is shit

[marble hemlock]

nah

[novel star]

m+ mentioned

[marble hemlock]

most mmos have dogshit endgame

[novel star]

Ok prolly

i lose interest in any mmo that doesn’t have a fun looking endgame loop before i even play it so maybe i’m not even an mmo fan

just retail wow guy

forever

[placid radish]

I can be funny
produce some wild takes

[novel star]

iron wire is good

seems to be a hot take nowadays

[lusty hedge]

Hey all, ım trying to learn how deathstalker mark works, lets say tank is chain pulling mobs are running constantly etc, i still need to cast ambush first to apply marl right ? then spread couple dots and come back to marked target anc cast cds did i get it right ??

[placid radish]

#assassination message

[faint vessel]

you only have to ambush to apply the 'first' mark, when a marked target dies you have darknest night and can reapply deathstalkers mark to a new target

so in your chain pull example you keep funneling your marked target until it dies, or when you consume all your stacks and have DN, and then move it to another target

[novel star]

nice

[lusty hedge]

Okey thanks

[slow echo]

We prayge for Skardyn's grace/Sikran neck

Let me absorb all of the rogue discords luck

GIVE ME YOUR ENERGY

[arctic socket]

Imagine not already having both

[slow echo]

https://tenor.com/view/luigi-gif-21396237

I SUMMON THY DEMONIC RITUAL

[grim jay]

If you absorb my luck you will definitely not get it

If you are talking about vault

[slow echo]

I have the sikran neck on my warlock

No skardyn's though :()

Someone ping me when servers are back up

[slow echo]

I'll absorb your good luck

[gilded wolf]

At what key and ilvl do sin rogues get competitive? I’m just getting to heroic dungeons and I’m not ever top dps. Wondering how long I’ll need to put up with that

[slow echo]

If your competition is higher ilvl it'll be hard to compete

But try using wowanalyzer on your logs

[faint vessel]

also please please use a sudden demise build and not a build you grabbed from top warcraftlogs or something like that

[gilded wolf]

Is it just a case of the mobs not living long enough?

[faint vessel]

possibly, but if youre running SD you kinda make up for a lot of that in lower dungeons. SD rips heroics lol

[gilded wolf]

I’m doing subterfuge and Indescriminate carnage

[frank niche]

when is SD not good anymore?

[oak tangle]

never

the rogue builds are super flexible with a few nodes

[faint vessel]

^

[oak tangle]

it's just what you need, so you can shift to more st, more bleed, more aoe it's basically a small amount of adjustability

the nodes mostly changed are: sudden demise, twist the knife, sanguine blades

[frank niche]

Yeah, I am trying to decide between SB and TTK

[grim jay]

#assassination message

[frank niche]

lol

[oak tangle]

it equates to nothing in the end sure, it's just a slight split in what spells it comes from

[frank niche]

So then I have a trinket question, is shadow-binding ritual knife a trick or actually good?

I have a hero version of it

[deep gyro]

Yes but because it is hero capped other myth trinkets beat it. If u have it sim it and trust the sim

[frank niche]

I just picked up my rogue, so I don't have many myth track items yet

[deep gyro]

I never had one but i heard overall it being good.

[frank niche]

in sim you trust 😉

I just know that some trinkets the sims have issues with

[faint vessel]

knife is good, itll outperform quite a few trinkets that are higher level than it depending on gear etc

[spice surge]

Hero knife is generally about as good as myth track crystal

Aka pretty much the best you can have

[faint vessel]

yarrrr. its so good lol

[coral ibex]

first

ring W

[slate crown]

yes

buy rings

[coral ibex]

though the contract is tempting

[slate crown]

[tawny geyser]

Damn, if not for that belt you would've had full purple vault 😂

[coral ibex]

[tawny geyser]

I'm so happy I got all I needed from dungeons, now I dont need to grind 8x M+ anymore 😄

[slow echo]

dead-eye spyglass 😦

[gilded wolf]

Ok just realized the build I copied didn’t have SD but it does have both TTK and SB. What is the thought process behind choosing between TTK and SB so I can put the other point into SD?

[coral ibex]

SB is strictly aoe pad

ttk improves ST

and also has small benefit in aoe

[gilded wolf]

I’m also using Subterfuge, like you.

[arctic socket]

If you’re doing low lvl keys take SD over ttk

[gloomy heart]

EGG 🥚

[coral ibex]

i’ve started taking SD for my weekly keys bc my ilvl is high enough

shit dies so fast in 10/11 keys

[slow echo]

I shouldn't have absorbed your luck

[gloomy heart]

show me vaults!

[arctic socket]

11 and under I take SD for the pad

[gilded wolf]

Yes but then the question is SB or TTK

[arctic socket]

Anything 12n up I take ttk

[arctic socket]

Do you need more single target? Take ttk

[coral ibex]

i like ttk bc it makes bosses feel less shitty

[arctic socket]

Want more aoe pad? Take sb

If you’re doing 1-11s take sb

12 n up I would take ttk

[gloomy heart]

1?

[arctic socket]

Yeah

[coral ibex]

[arctic socket]

Regular mythic

[gloomy heart]

oh

[coral ibex]

LFM +1 NEED DRAGON

[honest pelican]

vault checking time!

[arctic socket]

I can dragoneese nut on your forehead

[faint vessel]

vaults. i need to live vicariously through you guys because im sitting on vault until thursday

[novel star]

are servers up

[faint vessel]

quite up

[novel star]

okay i go vault

[novel star]

but im likely taking tokens for 6k gold

[arctic socket]

W

[gloomy heart]

[spice surge]

Its just that easy

[gloomy heart]

just luck 🍀

[arctic socket]

Add to the collection

[amber brook]

Can we jump this giuy

[coral ibex]

i just imagined a world where you could let someone else take an item from your vault instead of you and the degenerate sales that would happen

[amber brook]

did you enjoy it

[arctic socket]

The first time

Now it’s just sad

Suffering form success

[novel star]

nothing takeable W

[gloomy heart]

🥚

[novel star]

i can take wrists for 639 achievement progress ig

[amber brook]

Or tokens for gold

[novel star]

surely

the wrists are socketed holy value

[faint vessel]

thats like 2 shitty vaults in one

[rough hawk]

Is Tauren rogue a good fit? Idk why but I’m feeling the cow for rogue

[spice spire]

Sure

[amber brook]

pika influence

[faint vessel]

do you like how it looks? then yes

[placid radish]

fashioncraft

is the only way

[snow quest]

I want undead buffs in 11.0.7

[gilded wolf]

Possibly dumb question but does mutilate require daggers still?

[gloomy heart]

yes

[gilded wolf]

Ty I didn’t see it on the tooltip

[waxen oyster]

spyglass one week, then sacbrood, then crystal from vault

hello??????

[gloomy heart]

you like trinkets

[waxen oyster]

Also love how my rogue still doesnt have rash cloak

yet first 4/8 i do on my dh, gets cloak in vault

[waxen oyster]

where skardyn though

its funny because i've also seen harvester's edict as an option twice now

[gloomy heart]

LOL

[waxen oyster]

rash cloak mostly would just mean not having to send crests on that slot

Even though the only slot i can send 90 on atp is trinket 1, then random slots from 636 to 639 if i have a myth not crafted item there

[short night]

holy fucking barnacle sac. WITH LEECH

not myth but oh well

[half igloo]

I have an esoteric cook of a question that I need someone at the bottom of their thistle tea bottle to answer

[arctic socket]

Lmao

That’s a fat ass F

If you done more keys you would have gotten a 623 with leech

[waxen oyster]

major tragedy

[tawny geyser]

that's rip

[short night]

im a casual player shut the fuck up. also butterfly effect- if i diiid more keys i probably wouldnt have gotten the same rng

idiot!

[arctic socket]

The copium lmao

[short night]

i also applied for like 30+ keys last night and couldnt get in

[short night]

die

weeb pedophile

[gloomy heart]

??

[cloud yew]

which

[tawny geyser]

spy ST, Crystal AoE - sim yourself.

[cloud yew]

i am m+ only is it crystal time

[wraith oar]

So SnD is an ability I don’t cast anymore?

[tawny geyser]

yeah Crystal is cool for M+

[short night]

do u skardyns the last half of cds or frst half?

[honest pelican]

between my monk, rogue and druid. all 3 got harvester edict in vault. 2 of them 623 ;x

[drowsy lotus]

Do you actually have to use sacbrood trinket? or can u just ignore it and get stats

[spice spire]

Sure

Also why are you guys being toxic today

[spice spire]

[peak mulch]

is ovinax egg better then crystal both at myth track for m+ dslice says its a 25.7k increase but i know theres a mini game too it

[cloud yew]

macro it to deathmark and ur g2g

[sudden swan]

Your CDs are shorter than Skardyns brother

[spice spire]

Yeah keep it around 20 stacks and your fine

You’ll need to game it slightly but it’s nbd

[tawny geyser]

around 20 stacks ure good, its better than Crystal yes.

[peak mulch]

thank you guys ! ima start using it and try to keep 20 red stacks 11 mastery stacks

[spice spire]

[tawny geyser]

There's a good WA for it

[peak mulch]

care to share it?

[raven egret]

Well I finally won the game I think

[short night]

im new to rogue

and melee

[waxen oyster]

How does being melee relate

[tawny geyser]

Let me see if I can find it on WA, I have it ingame but can't login atm.

[half igloo]

so hear me out - in higher keys we have to slam faint/other defensives A LOT which costs us a lot of dps, currently sacbrood costs me like 1.7% DPS on AOE however could it be that if we could somehow take the energy loss from defensives into acount haste from sacbrood would actually be a gain? 🤔

[short night]

im new on melee is all

[spice spire]

No

[waxen oyster]

haste does like nothing

[half igloo]

haste does a lot on st

[spice spire]

10% haste adds like 100 energy per minute

It’s not going to offset anything on that line

[waxen oyster]

i mean all stats are good on st

what's your point

[spice spire]

And 10% haste is a lot

[waxen oyster]

me when my only haste piece is sikran neck

[half igloo]

I'm not "making a point" I came with a question O_O

[royal lantern]

dmg its like all other sstats

energy no, haste has literally near 0 effect on energy

[waxen oyster]

i swear haste on energy regen is, the biggest placebo ever

[grim jay]

see

[half igloo]

I see - I remember in DF the higher keys I went the better haste was simply cos I had to slam more faints which is why I assumed it'd be something like that again

[waxen oyster]

Not sure where it started

That also didnt happen in DF

at least on energy regen

[royal lantern]

it never had a effect on energy

[tawdry mica]

Just don't faint tank it all

[royal lantern]

10% haste is literally 1 energy reg more

[half igloo]

my tyranical set (which is when I had to slam most faints) had like 5 more haste items 🤔

[royal lantern]

thats 60 energy in 1min

aka 1 mutilate

[royal lantern]

did you play more ST talents

[half igloo]

5head

[tawny geyser]

https://wago.io/3h6u99R3h/1

here you go. there are different variations of this weakaura, but this is my favorite one.

[gloomy heart]

sigh

simming time

[half igloo]

nah it was ssn3 I'd play identical talents for both tyra and fort

[royal lantern]

crit rng/dashing scroundrel procs then

haste has nothing to do with that

never had, and probs never will

[half igloo]

for example last boss of brh was impossible to do with the "lower haste" items

[royal lantern]

again, 10% haste is 1 energy reg more

you legit life in a placebo bubble rn

that had nothing to do with haste

[half igloo]

very useful imput

feels like home (warrior discord)

[royal lantern]

yes, because thats what it is

idk what else to say

you act as if haste made a big difference

it doesnt

and then say "but i did for me in X fight"

[waxen oyster]

crit probably contributes to more energy realistically

[half igloo]

I know for a fact it did in ssn3 df so I'm asking if it still does is all 😄

[lusty kraken]

doesn't haste technically increase your energy gain by making bleeds tick faster?

[royal lantern]

which it didnt, cus it literally doesnt have a effect on that thing

[waxen oyster]

more seal fate less mutilates

"know for a fact"

spec didnt change

[royal lantern]

no it literally didnt

jesus

nothing ever changed in that regard

haste never had impact on energy

[raven dew]

im simming my gear and its showing that scroll of momenum + trasmitter is higher dps than grace + spyglass....is this legit? if so, why?

[royal lantern]

hell, before BfA haste didnt even had any usage on assa at all

[half igloo]

haste can impact your energy in different ways other than direct haste-into-energy conversion

[royal lantern]

????

what

@balmy condor pls, help with the brainrot

i beg you

[grizzled ember]

Currently on Ovi'nax, should I be going council build or just cleave w/spatter? Is it immoral to use CT?

[half igloo]

if it allows me to squeeze in an extra global because I had to use a global on a deffensive for example it will allow me to have healthier energy in my CDs

just an example

[royal lantern]

you play CT on ovi cus its more ST dmg

[spice surge]

It doesnt allow you to squeeze an extra global in

[honest pelican]

4 of my 6 toons had a harvesters edict in vault...2 took them simply for ilvl upgrade(623)

[waxen oyster]

rogue gcd is flat

[royal lantern]

and your job on ovi is ST dmg

[spice surge]

Haste has literally no effect on the gcd

[gloomy heart]

2 weeks in a row

[honest pelican]

got one more char to open, best not be a edict

[spice surge]

For energy classes

[gloomy heart]

i get a sacbrood

it rlly wants me to take it

[granite lantern]

Hey guys, which poison for assa in Solo Shuffle ?

[grizzled ember]

Ok thanks, wasn't sure if it it was more or less on it. I feel better now 🙂

[gloomy heart]

#pvp

[royal lantern]

energy classes have a flat 1sec gcd that doessnt get reduced by anything, with the only exception being outlaws adrenaline rush

again, its placebo mate

[half igloo]

🤔

[raven egret]

the great haste fallacy

[gloomy heart]

how bad is spyglass for m+

[royal lantern]

keeping CT dot up is more dmg then envenom at 2 targets

and ovi is a fight where you more or less always have some targets that boost CT

so you basically just tunnel the boss and keep the CT dot running the entire fight

[royal lantern]

its really good

[raven egret]

Sim it, but its not bad at all

[gloomy heart]

i have myth skardyns

[spice spire]

[grizzled ember]

Get outta here with that lol

[spice spire]

Good vault

[gloomy heart]

feel like its gonna sim sacbrood bc of haste

[raven dew]

im simming my gear and its showing that scroll of momentum + transmitter is higher dps than both BIS items: grace + spyglass....is this possible?

[alpine wagon]

what are the best trinkets for pve sin rogue? or is it literally all abt simming? i use 619 skardyn's grace & 619 VRC (both champ rn). i've simmed trinkets a bunch & 626 spyglass & 626 crystal both sim worse than 619 champ VRC, but every top sin rogue i see in raids or on logs uses skardyns/spyglass or skardyns/crystal. i cant figure out why VRC sims so high for me but the others do worse. if anybody can help me figure out the trinkets that'd be awesome ❤️

[hearty coral]

its any good?

[spice spire]

Yes

[grizzled ember]

EN DIRECTO

[raven egret]

Sims depend on your current stat balance and gear, sim different scenarios and go with what you need for the content you do

[subtle cipher]

its like the third one, give me a break

[royal lantern]

skardyns+any decent passive trinket

[spice spire]

Or mandate

[alpine wagon]

is there a reason why 619 VRC would be simming higher than 626 spyglass or 626 crystal?

[royal lantern]

whats VRC

[alpine wagon]

even on patchwerk

[spice spire]

Void reaper

[alpine wagon]

void reaper contract

[royal lantern]

idk, the stats on it i gues

[spice spire]

The trinket from kyvez

[waxen oyster]

I feel like if a damage proc trinket sims higher

your gear kinda sucks

[gloomy heart]

what do you guys think i should take

whatever sim says?

[waxen oyster]

spyglass normally sims higher than sac

[raven egret]

[vivid stream]

why is simcraft wrong for assa

[raven egret]

Sim yoself AND make a decision based on content you play, already said that

[spice surge]

Wdym, why would it be wrong

[gloomy heart]

each week i get a myth itemfrom sikran but not the one i wanted

[royal lantern]

eh, makes no real difference, spyglass is probs a bit better in m+ then sacbrood

[alpine wagon]

i've checked 626 sacbrood, 626 crystal, 626 spyglass & 626 mandate all over 619 VRC. only trinks simming higher than 619 VRC are 626 mandate which was like +6k i think + 626 VRC is like +3k i think

[arctic socket]

That’s a first

[royal lantern]

wdym wrong

[alpine wagon]

626 spyglass vs 619 VRC is like -500 dps

[gloomy heart]

taking spyglass

[vivid stream]

simcraft has dmg at 1.467 for fatebound.. im already over that

[slow echo]

Empowering

[alpine wagon]

also i play deathstalker btw if that changes anything

[spice surge]

What

[royal lantern]

i mean, yeha what they said is wrong

but why where you a dick for no reason in the first place

[raven dew]

how is it possible that grace + spyglass isnt top dps for my sim?

[alpine wagon]

same here

😭

[raven dew]

weird isnt it

[royal lantern]

i mean yeha do it

BUT, also put a mark on relative dps so you see the % instead of dmg numbers

[raven dew]

lmao

maybe the wowhead guide is out of date

[royal lantern]

cus many people get kinda blinded by numbers like 8k-15k and think its a big thing

[alpine wagon]

skardyns + vrc is mine, 619 vrc vs every 626 trink ;-; minus 626 mandate or vrc

[spice surge]

Oh ye the default profile just havent been updated since the .5 patch

[alpine wagon]

even tho the crit from spyglass sounds like it'd be rlly nice for more crits = more cp

but idk

[raven dew]

🤷‍♂️ doesnt seem like anyone knows

[gloomy heart]

0.2% better than sac

[spice surge]

Well youre not simming 639 items

[raven dew]

oh is raidbots tuned for myth level items

[spice surge]

No

[raven dew]

but even so, carnage is seeing the same thing with his sims

[spice surge]

The wowhead bis profile is

[alpine wagon]

i do understand bis list is meaningless unless you have every single item on the bis list, but every top sin using skardyn/spyglass or skardyn/crystal makes me think that'd be bis but idk

[royal lantern]

ye, just want to give you that as a reminder, so you see that it doesnt really make a real difference in the end

[raven egret]

The guide is not out of date, your sims take into account your -CURRENT- context and gear, stats, all of it. You have to do some critical thinking as you are gearing up

[alpine wagon]

only big item i'm missing i feel is sik neck, everything else is p good gear-wise

stuck w the rash neck 🫠

[tawdry mica]

just craft one

[waxen oyster]

its not "good gear" if its not myth

tbh

[royal lantern]

sik neck is not a "big" item tbh

like, its very slightly better then a normal neck lol

[alpine wagon]

it sims a lot higher for me than the rash neck

[royal lantern]

do you compare both at the same ilvl, and maybe your secondary are just kinda skewed towards it aswell

[spice surge]

Afaik the sim doesnt account for the extra proc, so its just the stats

The extra proc is only like 1½ gems worth of stats anyway on average

Its not massive

[alpine wagon]

i usually compare same ilv or a 626 vs my 619 (so i can see how big hero vc champ would be if i get & upgrade it)

[royal lantern]

like, the biggest gain of sik neck/rash cloak is not the effect

its that they are max upgraded mythic pieces, which meant you saved a lot of crests in early prog if you where lucky with them

[raven egret]

And stats can be manipulated with gems, enchants, crafted pieces, etc; if it sims higher for you right now, its either or a combination of simming higher ilvl than what you have and stats rebalancing that could achieve the same goal

[royal lantern]

^

[alpine wagon]

a lot could be stats, idk. rn im at 29% crit, 15% haste, 38% mastery & 3% vers. idk what yall's stats look like as sin

623 btw

[short night]

i don’t know how many more boxes you could possibly check

[royal lantern]

you should not be an asshole aswell

[short night]

they started it
i’m just retaliating

[spice surge]

Dont

[royal lantern]

calling somebody a pedophile is a bit much, isnt it?

[raven egret]

And that right there is your problem

[waxen oyster]

guy has a dbz pfp

[grim jay]

idk if thats even the worst

[royal lantern]

we dont speak about the W word

[grim jay]

like being as narrowminded in 2024 to call someone that just because of "weeb" stuff

speaks volumes

so as we know TO aint one

but the narrowmindedness remains

it might not be the worst thing about that

[grim jay]

wurst?