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Oh, you copy paste ur wtf folder
Yes
afaik yes
No not rly
aight ty
Just install my rogue ui package, and i remember all my keybinds by heart+my ui is rly simple doesnt require elvui shit
And
Few camera stuff and qol things here and there
Curious to see your package
this is getting sus
Well search zerossxdd in twitch
he wants to see your package, you streamed today
Why would i care about fans i dont even have a sub button 
I'll check tonight while team B reclear raid
I'm an ElvUI user on my own so we won't speak about my UI
Kinda clean but ElvUI
you can see my package

My ui is totally unfinished
Didnt have time to fix alot of basic things
I’ll probably work into it soon
outlaw over fotm enha, outlaw broken confirmed pls nerf
might aswell ye
always
Enh guy is under geared
doesnt matter, we dont talk logic when its about enha
enh = windfury
windfury = buff for warrior
that means we should nerf fury
well assa does same as enh dps if theres no aug/pi in the grp
Sometimes does same as enh with aug in some keys
Or close to it atleast
Is it in raid or in keys too?
Everywhere, i check chatgbt i’ll do what he said
He has alot of great solutions
Man chatgbt is crazy good
I backup my wtf and interface folder every wednesday smile
U ask him a question its like he played wow all his years
I just need my rogue package thats all
I need everything
Rest is just bigwigs and shit
😄
I would mess with your input lag affecting settings in graphics, and consider reinstall the game
let us know if you found the solution. im just curious now
https://www.mechanical-keyboard.org/key-rollover-test/ just to make sure
The term key rollover refers to the number of keys that can be simultaneously registered by a keyboard. The following online key rollover test makes it easy for you to verify specifications from manufacturers. You can try out various key combinations and test how many keys your keyboard can handle at once.
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
i'm trying to play pvp with rogue assa but don't know if my rota is correct
is there any guide on what rota/opener i should do?
Morning fam, I checked the pins and searched deeply in wago to no avail.
For like whispyr and other rogue streamers I see their weakaura packs including some envenom tracking bars to know when to send it for rapid injection.
But when I download the packs to rip just that component it’s never included in the !wa downloads.
Anyone know where to find it either as part of a pack or stand alone?
Clean
Check LE standalone
Will do ty
!wa
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Rude, typically.
Hi. When opening on a pack of 3-4+ should I garrote all then immediately crimson tempest? Or do I garrote then rupture then crimson tempest? Thanks
Ah I ran into that but it looked so different I guess the others just did some heavy editing. I can make that work thank you
Will I be labeled a heretic if I said I enjoy fatebound more in raid than deathstalker? Lol
Garrote and rupture then CT
Then maintain rupture and CT that shit
Okay great info. Thank you ❤️
With pleasure
It's the one I use as well, btw it adapt when u got ttk or not
its still ambush first yeah?
If you're playing subterfuge you can garrote first
What's the gain?
If you don't have DN up, yes
question; people seem to be using imp garrote and master assassin over vicious venoms or sanguine blades in NP heroic, even on ST bosses like Sikran; is the bonus that significant from a vanish reset that it outperforms VV over the duration of an encounter for example?
are you looking at some old aggregate stats
you must have looked wrong then, I see 0 logs using both those talents on sikran atleast
sikran hc
oh nvm I read your original question wrong lol, thats just the new build
Yeah that’s just the standard build
right; I haven't kept up to date then clearly 😛
Vv literally eats your energy, which you don't want with current design
still, suprises me that i guess 18? seconds of those bonuses outdoes VV overall
hey guys? is this actually normal? ulgrax and rash on mythic
Read what I said!
idk what to do when there are adds on bosses
and I guess for fights like ulgrax and bloodbound, is it worth stalling vanish on the opener to make use of imp garrote/MA in cleave? obviously without CT and IC the cleave opportunity is still limited (basically non-existent) so i guess probably not?
i've been treating them like ST fights tbh.
are the wowhead builds updated for mythic raid?
cz ive been using those talent trees for each boss
Idk I dont try to minmax add dmg
Just spatter on adds
For Ulgrax
And I full ST Rash
You should talent spatter on rash too
Yes it doesn't feel like it does anything
But neither does internal bleeding
Such a low impact talent
Yes but spatter does 0 damages on rash
The top logs are literally 99% spatter
So I take internal bleeding
The chance that it does is enough for me
Yep, but we run 2 fury warriors, trash stand legit 2 gcd
I still would
What if shit goes wrong and half the raid dies
And you need aoe to finish the boss
A slightly different build, more crit from MA and more time to spread bleeds
At the cost of internal bleeding
2 GCD of Spatter is probably still better than IB
Truly
if spatter does 2% of your damage (insanely bad) it’s better than ib by what like .3?

I'll test tonight again
Not exactly, considering IB also counts for Lethal Dose
But yeah still
Spatter is super strong, IB is shit
Point still stands :p
Yeh, semantics
point is dogshit caustic value still gaps
No, I mean, using Garrote and apply mark later?
big time
They should bring back the energy regen for it
Truuue
But last time I tried spatter, it did 0 %, so I prefer the 0.3 % than nothin
But yes, I'll post logs tonight if you want
60 apm gayplay...
make envenom full ironfur let me stack 6 envenoms at once please and thanks
Would someone be able to give some tips? I don't think I'm doing my rotation wrong but my caustic splatter isn't #1 like it should be it's always crimson, garrote, rupture, caustic
so depending on how many cp I have I spread my bleeds then use envenom at 7 cp. Usually steal ambush garrote rupture rupture garrote crimson and try to keep up on my spatter. Starts out good but the longer the fight goes my dps dips
you only need to rupture twice usually
From stealth though right?
it doenst particually matter you just want to get the stacks for scent of blood
yep, as long as there are 5+ targets in range, 2 rups will max out scent
it's optimal to target swap to spread more ruptures, but in practice if that's causing you to screw up the rotation you're probably better off just wasting a rupture and cranking spatter
That's a game changer. I feel like I'm constantly applying rupture. You're right I think I'm to worried about applying garrote and rupture
Yeah on aoe I can garrote 2x, rupture 2x, garrote, ambush, Ct
for aoe, just keep garrote on your main target and maintain your scent stacks as best you can based on how much longer the pack will live
So, where us the gain?
I always try to reaply garrote at 2 seconds but more times then not I see some people on streams not reapply their garrote. Why is that?
No gain to apply mark later
garrote and rupture dont do that much dmg compared to caustic and CT
it justs a means to an end
Garrote if the main target is beefier than the others
yep, if the pack is almost dead there's not much point in reapplying DoTs. you could kill them a couple of GCDs faster by just sending spatter
So 3 or less just focus on spatter?
You dont have to mutilate to apply spatter
if it's 3 or fewer targets, it should be simple to maintain rupture on all 3 for energy gain
But you Loose a mark proc from rupture
I thought you did? it says you need to?
Anyone have a Tempered Potion macro with /use item:id for Fleeting > R3 > R2 > R1?
Hi guys I have a quick question. If I have an item or a trinket that add a bleed or poison (for ex: Barman Shanker dagger from BRD raid) does it count for talents and abilities? (for ex: Mutilate Flesh's Envenom bonus damage)
So do you want all of your marks used on env?
Mutilate or ambush. In the specific case i was responding to its using ambush
No
no, the general rule is that class talents won't interact with item procs
anyone shiv macro ?
Cause right now the way I am opening is rupture and crimson eat up 2 marks
No you dont need to use the marks with envenom
mark procs do the same damage no matter what finisher pops them
Ye the better usecase is on pulls like GB first pull where you dont need to ambush the first 3 mobs but you can instead save it for the drake
Or first cot pull
That's the only situation I can see it useful
is it a gain or loss to mut on 6 to get max for darkest night proc ?
always push to use DN as fast as possible
Thats a gain, so yes you do that
unless you're saving it for an intermission or something
that's what i thought but it feels so dumb
you could always flip coins like the gigachad you were meant to be
am i right in understanding that both hero options have bugs?

Is the effect on the Rash cloak worth it to use it > a Mythic cloak at champion level?
I can flip for you if you want
no way
Cool, thats what I thought, but im not very smart
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On Silken, do you guys send rupture on both bosses when you can or just one, and then do you guys keep deathstalker on the melee boss or the mage
!shiv
definitely bleed both
deathstalkers mark depends on who’s gonna be damage amped next
/ who’s staying up in intermission
This fight is lowkey a pain to play having to track both of them
guys how much haste is good for assassin ?
The answer is gonna be sim it, the base answer is a bit of it is fine, don't want too much of it
ty good sir
the base answer is also sim it
never look at stats other than agility
waste of ur time thinking ab it
why type more when you can type less
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
Because I’m a yapper
I sold out so maybe wasn't from me
unless it was deadly emerald those took a bit logner for some reason
it's ok every craft I have is red to craft now so I'm stunlocked
on crafting
game dead
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
is this DPS ok? I'm 607
I'd say caustic and envenom should be higher
hmm I see, thanks!
Caustic seems too low, and envenom being that low is the reason probably
But if pack's die just after u apply bleeds it make sense
It was a masterful emerald
I’m clean 
Well two
But yeah
Yeah those seem to go the fastest so mine were out the door before the afternoon
is it just me or is it weird master assassin doesnt show 20% crit on your character stat page
Yeah I didn’t get on until 10 pm so I avoided the LE scam 
yeah it doesn't show
i think whispyr said it's because it's not a universal buff
it doesn't affect trinkets
Ye it only works on rogue stuff
I ahve been talking on the morning about a wa to see KB dmg, but not sure if he said me the name
I would like to test dummies
to check my dmg on kbs
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should i not be using caustic on ovinax? apparently its the source of a shit ton of lag?
Someone know what it is?
dropping caustic on ovinax sounds pretty wild and crazy
And also got the details photo of a 10 Mist
yeah thats what im thinking
but potentially if it saves my entire raid from getting destroyed by tlag maybe?
what wa is working with supercharger?
do u need a wa for it?
ye combo points
o tru
since not using blizz
tbh i just look at regular elv ui combo points but i think afenars does
Sorry mate, I got your's in my vault again
Outlaw weapon tho
Already got 3 MM dagger, trying to get some outlaw stuff
!wa most of these should have an indication
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You don't necessarily need it for assa though, you don't really react to it at all
poisoned pact, no question
Thanks for letting me know 😂
the cantrip alone is like 1.5% dps*
does supercharged go over 7 cp btw?
You'll get it, i'm sure of it
Yes
ok thanks
np
btw you inspired me, I don't remember when this happened but you did this to me once ages ago and now I got to do it to oli #assassination message
😭

Proud of ya
Spreading the wisdom

That’s just the Finland culture
Common Finland W
🇫🇮
You had fixate on you?
Did you have a mobile tank and they ran away from this cast?
so guys....with new undermeme leak....we thinking rogue might get some orange? some corporate espionage? some shady back alley deals? some elimination of the competition?
Like warrior/monk/etc?
well i say leak, i just mean the like.....patch notes
do u guys use any weakauras for preventing auto tea proccing or do u just stare at your energy bar happends all the time for me in keys on single target
is it proximity
Just play for envenom uptime in st
if he isnt close he goes to closest
i just play outlaw instead. less management 
or
In 2 targets, do we generate combo points with mutilate or fan of knives?
Fok
Not 100% but as I’ve been tanking, learned that some abilities if not in range, will just hit closest ally
Fan of fucking knives?
Doesn't matter, it's fine
Like the tank buster on speaker boss
fan of flying* knives
Will hit someone if you leap away
ye i knew about that on some mobs
but didnt know about vanguard in nw
it just depleted 14 nw
went on me killed
got cr
killed again
FoK if talented in Thrown Precision
I do not. If you really want to add something, consider adding a tickmark on your bar either at 30, or at 30 + 50 (mutilate cost). It doesn't matter though
i think it matters actually
accidently proccing your only tea charge before going into your 2minutes
then add a tick to your bar
ye im a dumbass when it comes to weakauras thats a great idea though just no idea how
ty assa discord for the help i graduated from blue parsing last night 🥹
worth going crimson tempest on mythic ulgrax or nah?
no
do u use cds on adds phase? cant pad enough with dks and paladins in my group
if i use vanish on opener to get master assassin buff, its not up in time to improved garrote for my next cd window, am i doing something wrong? it doesnt come up until 5-6s after i can deathmark + kb
hey everyone i used to play a lot of rogue but its been a few years honestly and im kinda struggling. can anyone point me in the right direction. i thought i had a handle on this itteration: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/at67PrHhpCJn1kjd#fight=39&type=damage-done&source=539
that’s because you don’t vanish for imp garrote
you vanish for ma and then just vanish for ma again
on the next dm kb
what guide is this
immediately
outdated
on rashanan? im just literally full cleaving off boss and sending everything on cd
when ads come out i press fan and envenom and thats kinda it
Funny enough, we've never built to 6+
Outdated or not, just completely wrong information
yeah i was so confused lmao
wrong
maxroll very bad do not use 
we build to 7 for darkest night
?
it says echo people write these guides so i just assuemd it was fine
is wowhead or IV more accurate
Yes?
Same good ** shit
Literally read what it says buddy
use wowhead (I think IV is the same but I've never looked at it)
ik it says 6+ rup
you're using it for MA?
Yes and you use it for MA in AoE as well
you still press garrote when you vanish, it's just less important than MA
echo people 
More like maxtroll
You can reapply Garrotes during it, but you don't go out of your way to do that
Raid build running MA so rules is like it : Vanish for MA at end of cd window > Vanish for IG before DM
you never vanish with the intention of maxing out imp gar value, correct
makes perfect sense ty
imp gar just happens when you ma vanish
If you just run Imp Garrote (M+ build for exemple) you can vanish to apply IG before DM
When they got released, they were full of AI garbage. A lot of them, like this one, are still very outdated.
Just use Wowhead.
Just we don't play around IG in ST cuz it's kinda bad
But it still better to DM on an imp garrote than sit on vanish
In my humble opinion
But I'm just a casual
this is wrong
We literally run it
we do run ig in raid because it’s required to get to master assassin
Maybe just a translation error or something

He probably means that we don't reapply Garrote
hmmm
i mean you still do it even if the garrote isn’t in pandemic
but yeah
it’s not the purpose
i wish wowhead didnt such so much fucking dick. im pretty sure it has some massive memory leaks because it just freezes my computer if i leave it long enough. its so shiutty
LMAO
at how many combo points do you guys proc envenom then?
I’m not explaining it to Cev - I missed everything ngl
don’t we all wish wowhead sucked less dick
Huh
Yeah, I edit
its awful
5, same with any finisher
Damn
Get ublock origin. It's the ads.
!macros
Never had any issues ever
But my computer is older than olii
Never heard of that also
hmm, anyone has a focus/mouseover kick macro?
whats the reason behind that
Yes, soz, I mean we don't play around cuz MA > IG
bro no it ain’t
You never heard of ublock
Pretty close
much more likely to overcap cp if you hit a builder at 5
Wut
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead] [] kick
vs below 5
I have ublock
Oh nvm
@dense talon the biggest tip I can give on that fight is that if your raid is walking forward to give the webbed people space to move, you can immediately shadowstep the knockback to get more uptime
also 5 is the minimum for hero talents to work but yea
I mean it’s not issues
I have for years and it's usually the ads
What uptime % are we looking for in M+ build on pure ST boss . Like 90%? Envenom**
It just performs badly because of ads
Didn't think a website would slow down any computer in this day and age
it’s because of mutilate cp gen
And I’m here to pay jez ig
Doesn't matter
#showtooltip Kick
/cast [mod:alt, @focus] Kick; [target=mouseover] Kick; Kick
this should work no?
The envenom uptime doesnt matter?
No
You just press Envenom if you have the CP
And that's it
You don't have to look at Envenom uptime or anything
i dont understand this. ambush + garrote doesnt get you to 5cp rupture guaranteed, also , why woudl you not 2nd garrote before going to cds?
@mouseover instead of target=mouseover
anyone has a energy bar with a tick marker at 80 energy?
why would you do a 2nd garrote
so its full duration? idk
It says to use a Mutilate before the Rupture if you're not spec'd into Shrouded Suffocation
is it higher dps to improved full length garrote before cds, or to re-use garrote when you vanish during DM
why not use FOK trigger tho?
the proc i mean
Look at it this way
nvm i saw it here thank you
Garrote isn't your top damage, it's usually envenom and kb by a considerable margin
ok so we’re spending a gcd and energy on 5 seconds of garrote duration but losing the combo points and poison applications and damage and talent interactions from mutilate
So long as you use it before it times out
why? also I think the order is wrong hmm
whic skill should i use to avoid Bligh focus skill?
oh i see ok
What
!nw
The breath/frontal from the first boss in Necrotic Wake is an attack, not a spell.
In order to immune the the breath, you must be in the first second of cloak of shadows (“a moment of magic immunity”). After the first second of cloak of shadows has elapsed, the attack will hit you and no longer be immuned.
Alternatively you can use evasion to dodge the breath.
the one that spread toxic
@late tusk
What do we do When empowered garotte is up and we Hit 6cp. Do we mutilate again, FoK (without buff) or what is the most dps Gain?
evasion
Mutilate
Ty sir
I used evasion and still get killed
hmm I can't get it working. Anyone has a normal target/focus target/mouseover macro?
were you facing the boss
yes, face to face
you can't dodge if he's behind you, it was probably that
then you didn’t press evasion idk
The dodge from evasion only works if you are facing the target that does the attack on you
it’s a 100% dodge chance
Then you did it wrong
did a worm get you?
either you didn’t press it or you turned away
he start casting, i used evasion
You press Evasion and keep staring him down
And you dodge it every time
You probably turned slightly
And he hit your side or whatever
did not know this
thank
i need to stay then?
if you're inside his hitbox it might be a bit buggy
this is why i love hanging out in this discord. Rogue has so many things that are not obvious
No, you don't need to stand still or anything
You need to face the boss
That's it
You have a 90 degree angle in front of you
Where you block the damage
If you popped evasion and turned around to run away that's why you died
And a 270 degree area around you where you take damage
Np
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Welp...500k gone for a HC Queen Ring 😛
I rolled 97 he rolled 99...
Tbh that’s kinda wow in general, there’s so much obtuse shit in this gane
does cloak of shadow work the same way with the 90* angle or is it just a no u?
why would you do that lol
Only evasion (and parry if youre playing arms with dtbs up)
cloak doesn’t work like that no
Well it's a 25k upgrade.
You can't dodge attacks from behind and evasion is dodge based.
Cloak is just outright immunity.
right, makes sense
check how much % 25k is 
Melee works like that as well
it's why dps sits on a boss' but. Can't dodge from behind but can get parried from the front (I've heard nightmare stories about KBs getting parried and the rogue dying on the spot from cringe)
So you can reapply bleeds if you're side to side to a target, but you char won't melee.
can confirm, i die atleast 2x a raidnight from that
i dont have mage tower daggers, maybe i should just quit rogue and try next year.
So if a boss has a shield that instakills you if you melee, you can still reapply bleeds to it even if you have it targeted, as long as you turn away from the boss
1.7%
whatever, it's gone. I got gold so it don't matter. I'm just happy I finally have it. I have 5 weeks of Socket vaults, not sure whats up with that too.
Sin and outlaw Mt weapons are pretty pog
Only thing that's left is 639 Skardyn and Sureki neck and im done
Sub is lol
i just got druid and mage
wish i got thsoe daggers in legion
mayb legion remix will bring it back
that will be replaced in....what.....like 2 months?
They did bring back the cloaks so maybe.
can't even be used for TWing anymore
the mop cloaks?
i didnt even play mop remix
whatever makes u smile i guess idgaf
life is pure
Nah they didn't bring back cms.
But I'd argue Mt was a joke and shouldn't be held to the same standard by the time people had tomb gear.
I would call mop remix an "arcade mode"
you eventually just got so fucking strong that you can solo entire raids by yourself.
i was sad i missed the ez garrosh shoulders on remix so i farmed them a few weeks ago and got it in 300 runs
not a faithful re-do, but still a very fun sandbox to romp around in for like 3 months
I was one of the higher cloaked people that didn't frog and got the frog nerf 😦
So cringe
bruh that sucks.
i raided mythic tomb and heroic antorus, i coul have gotten them so easily i just wastn aware of how awesome theyd be looking back
i think i barely apid attention tot hem
I made an Eredar Warlock in anticipation of either TBC, WoD, or Legion remix. Her vibe fits in with any of the xpacs, I don't have/never played a max level warlock, and it's a race I don't have yet in my class roster. plus she looks pretty
that said i very much do like the "lore" of warlocks now. They are essentially the leash-holders of the rememnants of the legion
i mean, not really?
warlocks always have been, and still are, literally guys that perform dark forbidden magic and are mostly outcasts
that didnt change
but who else is in charge of demons now that Sargearas is in a permanent cage match with illidan?
i like how u can see him in the sky
the sargeras prison
shiton of other demons infighting for that position
You'd likely have to make a new char tho :p
OH that's the thing, I made her and designed her fit and reserved her name. Like the character is made, I just have to delete her and recreate her when the new remix drops
Idk about you guys but if we get ethereals that's an instant race change for like half my roster
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
same but snek
I was so looking forward to sneks being a playable race in BFA for Horde
instead we got furries
mfs act as if vulpera are not 1 of the more popular races in the horde
and played more then 3 of the "Original races" allready 
of course they are, people can finally fulfill their deepest fantasies
remind me, is there a title of "Master" ?
or i guess monk has grandmaster right?
All the fuckin Vulpera Monks called Shifu (or some mispelling of Shifu)
guys just checking, are servers down for EU ?
brother doesnt know

you really think that vulpera was the "last straw"?
oh god thats innocent as fuck
I don't even know what you're on about but I'll let you do whatever you think you're doing
if it makes you happy
guys i have a tough vault choice to make, looking for opinions,
I have 639 mists neck (crit, mast), and 619 rings, (will craft one this week for use, and either buy boe or use vault one)
My vault choices are mythic very rare neck, and mythic crit mastery ring.
I'm more towards the ring but i think there's a lot of hidden value in the very rare neck, with the versa proc and such, even if haste is not that good of a stat for m+ (i only care about m+)
mythic very rare neck
its also bis
and sim urself
also
have a nice day 🙂
this goes beyond the sim, i have simmed already
sim doesnt care about the versa proc
so,u are asking for an excuse to take the ring
Go neck
We'll chamge ring in few weeks
And you got 2 mastery crit ring avaliable in vault
then u go for the higher ilvl
and be done
being in a spot like that means smaller gains
a very rare neck u might never see again isnt a bargain
it also depends on your priorities
i already stated that it's m+ only, (which is why the neck isnt as huge)
how easily can you get the neck vs how easy would it be to get the crit/mast the rings offer?
Also the neck helps your healers, they always appreciate that
It does
hi whispyr
Hi
!up
how much uptime?
how has ! up not been updated yet
i dont see it as a configurable thing, like i do for the embelish
Yo how much dps increase is the gb trinket for sin
it's our bis
big
it's basically manditory
its bis,u dont ask u take it
then u are forced to bait urself into mechanics to get the mitter buff
nvm found it
Well yeah duh, that’s cause you’re always being healed, what is there to configure
sure, i just assumed it wouldnt account for that
Shit just procs
Sudden Demise does 5% of overall damage in Ara Kara and 2-3% of overall in other dungeons.
Really wish if the damage was more consistent
what's your take on the choice btw, if you don't mind giving
Neck sucks giga bad in m+ and it’s like on par with rash neck for most people cause it’s such an insane amount of haste
High density lower keys it does wonders.
Sudden demise gives you 10% more bleed damage
Are you accounting for that
Even if still prog raiding?
Neck sims good in ST for me
if you care about prog raiding take what's best for prog, if not then take whatever
Go ring then mate
i dont get why you wouldnt vanish improved garrod before dm
is it really more damaage just to have MA?
guys im 637 ilevel
i'm not
If it sims higher go for it
It’s worse for me
Huge amount of haste is kinda rough depending on your gear
unless we specifically go for the bleed build, bleeds are just an enabler and source of energy for us, right?
Otherwise, bleeds are more of a cat druid thing
I wouldn’t go that far
I guess the 3% must be a thing
Theyre mostly energy yes, but its just tuning
Yes
Crit the last 6 sec of KB is huge
Next patch they could buff it and we get big bleeds
The highest I did was a 13 but % floats around the same
Ist jemand Deutsch hier der mir Helfen kann für Raid und M+ Rota wäre echt super nett , einfach anschreiben PN
Yeah, but just conflicted between taking SD+MA or TTK+MA, although TTK sims 3% higher on dslice.
Fcuk Iron Wire though
I've had it top on some pulls when I was carrying friends.
I hate dropping it on higher keys but it loses a lot of value when it stops instant killing at execute lol
alas, let the games begin
Pog
Proud of u
what crafting stuff can i get off rip to catch up
Do the uh. Story mode queen fight
And you can craft a free 619
Gotta finish story though
you'll be able to craft like 7 crafts in a row, (altough hard because valorstones)
I'd advise on crafting a weapon with that free 619 first
Ye
and what if gold isn't an limiting factor (i may or may not have a sugar daddy who said he would bankroll me)
don't worry too much about embelishments because they are all poop
Also delves are a really really really good resource to gesring early
Buy three boes then
mythic ones
The limit point on crafting is going to be crests
Which means you have to do specific keys
You wish big dog

ok so finish story -> delves -> story mode raid or what order
Thank you for the muscle pic quake
Absolutely not
Story > story ansurek > delves > world content / etc
Keys are kind of after you get your free chance at stuff
4 weekly chests a week (first 2 have 587 gear, first 4 have keys)
Delve it up
Just drop bonerspike and take ma sd ttk and iw
Then key time
Nah I’m too awkward to talk to iladies
The cope is real
?
is the hybrid build gonna be best option while i'm getting started here
yeah
i thought without a trace was bad
@spice spire ur cringe
Pookie? 
Somebody call the burn department
Nah she burns me all the time this is nothing 
Watch out, he’ll kiss you right on the lips
He’s a wuss
Won’t happen
A wuss?
The DMs too spicy
does the craft/recraft tricks for ring/weapons still works for free upgrade? sims telling me uping my 2 rings from 619 to 636 is way better than 3 up on cloak and 3 on gloves , both in mono (bout15K) and aoe(17k)and if it still works how u proceed exactly?
Hold up
Mayo is yucky, not spicy, just….weird,
Yeah if you happen to accidently craft a ring with like mastery+vers and then realize thats the wrong stats and recraft it to mastery+crit
Didn’t even react to the turtle selfie
accidentaly :p
accidentally ended up with a 75 crest discount on my dagger and ring
It can happen to anyone
Yeah I did - I said I was jealous because I wanted to hold the turtle man: they’re so cute
Lots of people during world first apparently didnt know their stat priorities
Very odd
just indecisive with my embellishments
where do we craft gear?
Its not just about taking and getting, sometimes life is about giving
Yeah call me life
Tell quake to start giving then
Its every man for himself out there in the wild
hey guys! is it ok to craft both of your daggers if you havent found a better dagger yet¿ or should I craft some other equpment
Treating life like barrens chat
Other equipment
Craft/upgrade pretty much any other equipment slot before offhand
Mythic dagger isn’t rlly too hard to get
Mainhand is very important
Dog are you okay
Offhand is not
Yes, and its worse at giving stats than bracers
Is there any class that actually values OH for weapon damage? Fury? Enh? Ww?
DH?
No
Oh shit you proposing? Hell
Yeah dog get that bread
LOL
Imagine proposing to your SO by crafting them a ring of binding
Has anyone seen Xiani around?
Want to ask them a zekvir wuestion
Or really I am going to fight Zekvir (as outlaw) and ideally I want to one try him so I don’t get the achievement for dying to him
Is zekvir easy never did it
Neither have I. He’s ambushed me 3 times in delves now tho and I’ve won every time.
easier with gear
Don’t want to break my streak
I’m 622
you shouldn’t struggle then
Well I’m not out of PP yet so I would certainly hope not
I’m 637, is my ilvl low?
yes
Hi royal
Bye royal
Yeah noob
Hi mate, hope you're having a good week
It’s going

645
One day I will acquire a mythic queen ring
To replace my 4 heroic ring I have from queen
One day
One day….
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We agree the only reason Transmitter sim higher than Skardyn is the fight length?
No
Transmitter will always sim higher then skardyns on single target the reason why some don’t like it is because of the mini game
let me borrow one
In aoe though it loses value
Transmitter does more damage it’s just a mini game
Even sitting on it for 30 sec? Interesting
Yeah, on pure single target it pumps
bros gonna have a thanos collection
What difference would 30 seconds make for it?
Collecting alll of the infinity stones
I mean, it's not sync with cd so we "waste" 30 sec
surely you have a myth track one by now
And it still stronger
what's m0 ilvl
593 gear drops
Isn’t much of waste but ye
I hope you never get a myth trinket
makes sense
It’s a 2m trinket
But says 1:30
Trust
Would also only be “wasting” 25 seconds since you would use it early to do the mini game
Transmitter matters on fights over 6m 
25% of cooldown is still a thing
If your kill times are over 6m
Phew
i thought transmitter was toxic
Even if youre wasting casts its still better to line it up
Wouldn’t be the first time you’ve said that to me
Ye
But you “lose one” three casts in
Ofc, but I didn't realize the bonus was so strong for 1:30 cd that it's better that a trinket that perfectly line up with cd
But no fight really hits that archetype where you’re just pounding something for 6+ m
Ovinax and court.
But queen seems like a weird one too
I see why it's awesome on sub
People make a lot of it
Weak auras make the trinket pretty whatever
It is toxic
Anyone else having a problem logging in on EU?
Why not just use your skardyns
so many people in our raid have been having trouble with logging on lmao

like it's been an hour and we are still stnading in front of ulgrax XD
Choose between tour 639 sac / crystal
i'll feel your sac
just a lil tease
Imma do much more than feel it
im so annoyed though
mythc prog night and we are held up cause a lot of people are stuck on the update

this affix seems fun af gonna try to pump some 11s this week
It was more like “Aahh~” lmao
Just a weasel getting excited
Movie: Barbie as Rapunzel
My main channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/Luna11
and we havent started
(I now have a weak aura that plays this when I taunt)
!wa
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english is not my first language so plz tell me that lust got another definition
xD
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Short for blood lust
The uh
oooooh
Blood lust or timewarp
Big buff shamans and mages (now augs too) use
or hunt pet
Oh yeah
Is anyone having problem with damage being low af all of a sudden? i just went from doing 1.9 mil dps in a key to doing 1.1mil.
btut they had a weakaura thatd play the pedro pedro song when they lusted and had the racoon dancing
Show details
Got that lust in me
i can show log
heroism
details was weird
Sure
which of those wa to use ?
Which rogue were you
2nd seige i am torek
back in wrath classic i had a weakaura that tracked crits on a speedometer and it was called the pog o meter
and it played GAS GAS GAS if you crit a lot
Its maybe bc your main damage is super low
Caustic should be #1
by a mile
How low was the key
Reapply poisons ig
or swap the other talent from caustic, back to caustic
Try it on training dummy b4 you do another key
Hey queen
Did you reapply poisons or change anything
nop
yea felt horrible being so low in dmg while pressing everything i had xD
the other rogue had the same damage profile
I also feel like you shouldnt do a ton in siege
I love my piss mage i barely play has the heroic ring LOL
Shhh
trink also hc?
Try to do like a big damage key like NW
Nah im lf a group rn
Do we drop grey when grab starts, mid, or end on ansurek?
is it legal to be in narnia before grab if ur stepping it or will you drop grey where you were







