yeah booting ppl mid tier
#assassination
novel star
week 10 or whatever and HALF the raid gets replaced
and ur not extending at that point
lethal arrow
thats ill behavior
coral ibex
i think they want to extend starting next week
lethal arrow
and that means your pickups would be low quality
highly unlikely any good players are floating around LFG rn
novel star
i think i’m a good player and i only got in my current guild 2 weeks ago 🥹
coral ibex
yea i mean i disagree with the replacement strategy but i just want to kill bosses and its not my job to figure that out
lethal arrow
yeah ofc thats like everyones goal
coral ibex
i think i’m a good player and i only got in my current guild 2 weeks ago 🥹
same lol
lethal arrow
but if ur guilds not cut out for a specific tier of content, booting ppl isnt really gunna solve that for this tier
lethal arrow
1 or 2?
novel star
but half is fucked
coral ibex
kyveza was a killing field
coral ibex
no room to prog
novel star
not chill
coral ibex
i recorded every pull so i could have evidence to defend myself against accusations
novel star
and then ur chilling
lethal arrow
thats playing it way dangerous
novel star
step boss on first cast 
lethal arrow
thats a go behind the boss angle imo
coral ibex
sure
humble verge
hm... officer decided to nitpick my ST, and apparently i sim better with full mast/vers gems guh
novel star
hm... officer decided to nitpick my ST, and apparently i sim better with full ma...
Man
how do you people find these guilds
that like
still don’t have ce
novel star
but are this insanely fucking annoying
humble verge
well idk
novel star
about everything
humble verge
he just decided to like
novel star
i would leak my officers address
novel star
before i let him tell me to switch gems
lethal arrow
what boss are you on
novel star
what a loser fuck
humble verge
im on ovi
novel star
BRO
humble verge
xd
humble verge
re-craft my belt for writhing armor + ascension
novel star
literally tell him to fuck off and pay attention to something better
wise whale
Blood parasite officer
humble verge
xddd
novel star
re-craft my belt for writhing armor + ascension
dps loss on ovinax most likely
vs dawnthread
humble verge
im thinking more about crafting dawnthread wrists
cause i got uh
blood dagger now
1 week after i crafted everforged lul
humble verge
i cant see
wise whale
Is your officer paying for it?
humble verge
no i am
wise whale
Tell them to get bent
coral ibex
yea tell them pay for my gems or stfu
humble verge
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/a1CcVuk1mqM51d6nf4x64n its basically like
+30k dps in total
if i go for armor band lul
wise whale
Goldshire npc officer
coral ibex
what a clown
humble verge
and change my gems + enchants xd
humble verge
make a difference no
fringe crow
hi im new to assassination, just wondering why cant i macro blood fury and skardyn and deathmark, doesnt seem that they are are on global but its still making me click twice ?
lethal arrow
esp on that fight where we're not the premier add killers
novel star
Shitstuck on an easy ass boss that doesn’t have any remotely relevant gear check and he’s giving you cancer about gems
tell him to fuck himself
literally
lamest shit i’ve ever heard
humble verge
esp on that fight where we're not the premier add killers
but i am tho (clueless)
nah jk
faint vessel
did you like, actgually parse poorly to make them interested?
humble verge
i just pad crimoson
novel star
crimson isn’t padding
faint vessel
i really want the story to be you parsed a 95 and got told to fix it
lethal arrow
if ur the #1 dps on adds
novel star
it’s a boss damage gain
lethal arrow
gtfo
wise whale
Crimson is prio
humble verge
did you like, actgually parse poorly to make them interested?
ill show my logs
2sec
lethal arrow
that means ur DK and warriors are shitters
wise whale
Raidlead prep carries that fight
faint vessel
heres the twist
lethal arrow
addpad is cringe
humble verge
im the top damage rogue there, i had 1,4m just on ovi this wipe
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/takRJn278pbmgVD6#fight=46
faint vessel
the officer is another rogue
humble verge
nah
faint vessel
no
humble verge
ohok
coral ibex
wait you are top dam and an officer is nitpicking your gems?
humble verge
¯_(ツ)_/¯
faint vessel
you have people doing way shittier that they can be concerned with
dude i was 100% right
coral ibex
say sike rn bro
humble verge
we have 3 ass rogues
because 2 of them were running shitty specs/classes for the fight
faint vessel
dude tell em to pound sand and review his own log
humble verge
1 was ele
coral ibex
no you have 1 assa rogue and 2 ass rogues
humble verge
and the other was a uh
coral ibex
faint vessel
which one of these players is that officer
lethal arrow
aww hell naw
novel star
no you have 1 assa rogue and 2 ass rogues
HOLD UP!!!! his writing is this fire??
faint vessel
who is the officer in this log
humble verge
which one of these players is that officer
sorry not outing 💀
mint urchin
no you have 1 assa rogue and 2 ass rogues
I was gonna say this 😦
faint vessel
alright well its not the warrior, right?
humble verge
no you have 1 assa rogue and 2 ass rogues
im main, they are both alts
faint vessel
if its not the warrior, he literally should keep his head down lol
novel star
Ye not sure what to tell you idk
novel star
like everyone else to ever play that boss ur wiping to egg breaks not damage
kill your officer in real life
humble verge
why are there 2 ALT ass rogues
because they would do less ovi damage on their mains
lethal arrow
my god
normal mist
kill your officer in real life
👀
lethal arrow
incredible
humble verge
which IS funny
normal mist
oli
normal mist
please
humble verge
kill your officer in real life
also, crazy statement btw
novel star
i meant in game
novel star
mistype
ornate wagon
Feels really sluggish 😩😩😩
novel star
normal mist
humble verge
so we were doing pretty good on damage
fringe crow
hi im new to assassination, just wondering why cant i macro blood fury and skardyn and deathmark, doesnt seem that they are are on global but its still making me click twice ?
wise whale
your bm hunter is actually afk uber
normal mist
hi im new to assassination, just wondering why cant i macro blood fury and skard...
you can... can't you?
faint vessel
hi im new to assassination, just wondering why cant i macro blood fury and skard...
deathmark is a global, i dont know if blood fury is
mint urchin
You can
novel star
yea u can
normal mist
blood fury and trinket are off GCD
humble verge
i get like maybe 3 foks off in my raid
i can get like 5 LUL
ornate wagon
spec doesn’t work when it’s too fast
Makes sense 👍 thanks mate
lethal arrow
hi im new to assassination, just wondering why cant i macro blood fury and skard...
post your macro
faint vessel
if blood fury isnt a global then yeah you should def eb able to
lethal arrow
might be an issue with ur macro
normal mist
^
humble verge
but hmm
fringe crow
#showtooltip Deathmark
/cast Blood Fury(Racial)
/cast Skardyn's Grace
/cast Deathmark
humble verge
i wonder if i should atleast replace my current dagger
humble verge
the answer to that was definitely not! 2 more ass rogues
why not tho
novel star
#showtooltip Deathmark
/cast Blood Fury(Racial)
/cast Skardyn's Grace
/cast Deat...
/use skardyns not cast
i think
humble verge
oh
faint vessel
/use 13 or 14
mint urchin
Are there more then one Blood Fury?
faint vessel
winning
wise whale
/use skardyns not cast
this. or use /13
mint urchin
Does (Racial) do anything in a macro?
normal mist
idk
wise whale
get the racial part out
normal mist
lol
novel star
no racism please
fringe crow
dont know thats how it linked when i shift clikc the spell xD
uncut sphinx
You do not need (Racial)
novel star
take out the racial but it’s probably the /use thing
and not the racial thing
if i had 2 guess
fringe crow
ok its fixed now after the /use thanks guys 😅
fringe crow
thx cant wait 😄
humble verge
no racism please
"am i a socialist or a leftist? no im a racist, i mean racer"
only some people might get this reference
lethal arrow
cant wait to pray for only 2 possible pieces of loot from vault
that would be upgrades
humble verge
man
humble verge
i had so many potential upgrades
novel star
humble verge
this vault on god
i had spyglass myth
legs myth
rashanan cape
uh what else if
lethal arrow
my options are, mythic skardyns/transmitter or poisoned pact
ringworm would be used for all of 2 weeks then we get the siren isle ring
humble verge
i was truly hoping for rashanan to drop cape in raid
but i just went and took it in vault rather
novel star
ringworm would be used for all of 2 weeks then we get the siren isle ring
this where i’m at rn
humble verge
honestly
novel star
other than ringworm i’m just done tho
humble verge
how good is ovi trinket?
novel star
lethal arrow
its ok
novel star
how good is ovi trinket?
good but annoying
lethal arrow
wouldnt matter i dont think
humble verge
hm ok
lethal arrow
i would never take that trinket anyways
lethal arrow
get ringworm
humble verge
cause ive got 5 kills,
lethal arrow
then leave the guild
humble verge
is it that good?
wise whale
you wont kill it unless you regem tho
humble verge
real
wise whale
you should ninja it tbh
humble verge
i think ive skipped that ring so many times in heroic atleast
past marten
is it better to save pot for sub 35% phases instead of using it on pull in shorter fights (where you can only pot once)?
humble verge
well i cant
wise whale
roll need
lethal arrow
as you should be
novel star
is it better to save pot for sub 35% phases instead of using it on pull in short...
no because lust
coral ibex
so true honestly i support that
wise whale
fr
uncut sphinx
Orc or Troll racial better?
humble verge
YEAH BUT LIKE
lethal arrow
and catalyze it
coral ibex
if any officer simmed gems for me i’d say thanks i’ll be leaving lmao
wise whale
"ayo need u to regem u dont do enough boss dam"
wise whale
steal it back brother
lethal arrow
kill him
wise whale
pickpocket
wise whale
fuck bubbling wax
humble verge
you have a chance at stealing someones gearpieces on pickpocket
wise whale
yoink that egg
humble verge
honestly
the sikran trinket also dropped yesterday
but like
is that shit even good
humble verge
i did offspec loot it but didnt win the roll
wise whale
for mog yea
humble verge
kek
faint vessel
myth endless aresneal simd .8% worse than my hero trinkets
humble verge
yea havent simmedi t so
lethal arrow
that trinket is doodoo
novel star
yeah arsenal is shit
humble verge
but also
i got rashanan belt as mog cause it dropped twice 2 weeks ago
dont even use that shit
faint vessel
what are you using?
faint vessel
ah
wise whale
disenchant to pay for the new gems tbh
humble verge
nah im a herb/minor
wise whale
i like minors
humble verge
ok bro
wise whale
miners*
rotund oak
which we should on sunday
You should aim for :
- Skadryns ( omegapoggers,we need this)
- Spyglass ( ST poggers,alternative and even stronger should be mandate )
- Overpowering Crystal ( Very good trinket for m+ )
- Delve Knife Hero Track ( Very poggers all-arounder )
humble verge
smite his ass
proven jasper
humble verge
You should aim for :
1) Skadryns ( omegapoggers,we need this)
2) Spyglass ( S...
i have all the 3 up there
wise whale
any diddies in chat
humble verge
what the hell is delve knife
faint vessel
shadow binding ritual knife
rotund oak
dark ritual knife iirc is the name
humble verge
to get skadryns tho
faint vessel
68
rotund oak
sounds about right
faint vessel
68, then got myth vault right after. it was bittersweet
humble verge
funny enough
first week
i couldve gotten skardyn in vault
only heroic tho
but my myth track was a dagger
so ofc went for that
rotund oak
heroic doesnt worth from vault since its farmable
humble verge
yea
faint vessel
dont worry, I did that too to take tier to play outlaw and fiugred 'i run enough M+, its just a hero trinket'. I regretted that decision
wise whale
skardyns feels like such a mid trinket but theres almost nothing better as an on-use so its like
rotund oak
unless its hero track knife
wise whale
yea
faint vessel
you say its farmable and then I spent 2 weeks not doing keys with friends to farm GB
humble verge
ok lads
rotund oak
skardyns feels like such a mid trinket but theres almost nothing better as an on...
its massive mastery boost,dont think its that mid
wise whale
its massive mastery boost,dont think its that mid
definetely mid compared to other classes on-use
urban mantle
Can someone help me to understand why Shadow-Binding Ritual Knife 626 simc better for DG then Dead-Eye Spyglass 626?
rotund oak
definetely mid compared to other classes on-use
idk for others,speaking only for rogue.Another trinket thats comparable to power is transmitter for sub
but its kinda stronger even compared to skadryns when u press
faint vessel
the only on use thats really stronger for other classes is like...spymasters, right?
wise whale
^
lethal arrow
unless they nerf it
faint vessel
yeah I mean it is super strong, but thats the outlier for on use
sharp viper
unless they nerf it
they might, they did that in df
faint vessel
yeah sure, but there's a lot of other classes
steep matrix
!wa
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
gloomy heart
yeah I mean it is super strong, but thats the outlier for on use
are you the guy from twitter
faint vessel
what guy
lethal arrow
i would say its very likely
scarlet spade
You should aim for :
1) Skadryns ( omegapoggers,we need this)
2) Spyglass ( S...
no sacbrood?
faint vessel
I dont have twitter so no
faint vessel
no, im a ShitE player
gloomy heart
me too dw
rotund oak
no sacbrood?
i could express how cringe/bad/bait this stupid trinket is but i dont wanna get nuked by lord whispyr
proven jasper
sac overrated
wise whale
it just takes time to ramp
so as kill times get shorter
its use gets diminished
still solid tho
scarlet spade
i could express how cringe/bad/bait this stupid trinket is but i dont wanna get ...
so for keys purely overpowering crystal and skardyns then?
wise whale
crystal giga in keys
faint vessel
heroic knife if youve got it is an option, crystal still great pick
rotund oak
so for keys purely overpowering crystal and skardyns then?
yeah it looks the most optimal as far as sims go but u should always follow ur personal sim
and act accordingly based on reason,coz arakara is just bad
example given^^
rotund oak
yeah any nelf can meldskip it
scarlet spade
well I had noticed recently just fishing for upgrades sacbrood wasnt as high just wasnt sure at the time if it was cause I havent gotten one on myth track but also havent simmed the dps increase for one on myth
rotund oak
humble verge
how that shit works 🤨
sharp viper
tank agros and runs back u move ahead,he dashes and melds
or augment teleport crystals
sharp viper
but fuck augs
rotund oak
but fuck augs
yup
humble verge
yall hate augs?
rotund oak
yeah
humble verge
thing is tho
coral ibex
fuck aug 
humble verge
the only thing that sucks about aug
is the player
if they are a bad aug
it shows
spice surge
have you guys skipped this before?
Ye and i hate it
You have to kill two of those mobs right after anyway
So theres practically no difference to pull those 2 ontop as well
Instead of spending way too long to do the skip and wasting vanish
midnight mist
4 frontals is a b it much
last moth
Hey guys, what you say is the max % for mastery stat ? when i prock trinkets and Flask i got around 70%
brave vector
Are you doing this in a pug?
spice surge
"frontals"
brave vector
Pugs that insist on skips like this are poopoo
rotund oak
Hey guys, what you say is the max % for mastery stat ? when i prock trinkets and...
wdym max %
as in max % we can reach?
or max % needed
last moth
How much Mastery you prefer
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
last moth
max needed when its intelligent to switch to Krit
coral ibex
read the bot post again
rotund oak
u can just read carefully brother
spice surge
Also like half the time those mobs charge the players that have already run through anyway
urban mantle
There is a hast and mastery cap? I have 3.7k hast 19k mast and 9.6k crit
spice surge
So you end up needing to either die or kite around with evasion until they charge again
rotund oak
There is a hast and mastery cap? I have 3.7k hast 19k mast and 9.6k crit
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
coral ibex
final dawn
for m+, do we use bubbling or whetstone? cant sim bubbling in raidbots
rotund oak
double whetstone
gloomy heart
for m+ what consumables do i use
coral ibex
i thought augment and hearty feast was implied king
humble verge
man wtf
dawg had to die to normal hit
sadge
my overall was finally good for an SV
rocky spear
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
granite cipher
healer's fault guys should've given him an external
granite cipher
unlucky i think
humble verge
unlucky in real time
final dawn
!tricks
prisma monolithBOT
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
cursive mortar
Hey I'm curious, what trinket are you guys running other than Skardyn's Grace? Been having terrible luck with Raid trinkets. Dead-Eye Spyglass?
golden ivy
I've searched the discord for this but couldn't find anything: Anyone else getting randomly not being able to stealth AT ALL out of combat in dungeons?
Happened after 1st boss i dawnbricker and after 2nd boss i GB for me, could not stealth for the remainder of the dungeon?
gloomy heart
Hey I'm curious, what trinket are you guys running other than Skardyn's Grace? B...
or spyglass
cursive mortar
So Empowering Crystal over Spyglass or are they situational?
Crystal for M+ and Spyglass for Raid?
normal mist
sounds reasonable
i dont have a spyglass so i'm purely using skardyn's + Crystal everywhere
cursive mortar
I just got my Hero Skardyn today upgrade from Vet finally. I have a hero crystal but no spyglass so I'll just use that then. Thank you.
normal mist
Yeah don't really overthink it.
As you get more gear, just keep simming Dungeonslice / patchwerk and see your best choices overall. I have 2 different "sets" for both M+ and Raid
For raid, sims tell me that i want way more haste than what i have with M+ gear
while as dungeonslice just shits on haste overall
M+ VS Raid
^ Those are my OWN profiles, please do not look at % values and think you need those
wide sleet
ok so i need 28-7-54-3 for m+ and 26-14-47-3 for raid. thank you
humble verge
@lethal arrow he sent me a new one; https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gVehoBc1csBhRK1RLAWWAp
lethal arrow
send a bomb to his house
golden ivy
No one experienced suddenly not being able to stealth out of combat in dungeon?
normal mist
send a bomb to his house
in game
lethal arrow
in minecraft
normal mist
in Midnight
humble verge
in kazaksthan
normal mist
You meant Karazhan
normal mist
the one with the Eye boss in the end. Upper?
wide sleet
!sheet
prisma monolithBOT
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
lethal arrow
thats upper i think
raven dew
what combo point builder should i be using in subterfuge?
normal mist
i don't think it matters much, but probably still mutilate, in case you already have DSM on the target
raven dew
wowanalyzer says not to use mutilate in subterfuge 😂
normal mist
i dont think wowanalyzer is 100% working for us
raven dew
ah okok
normal mist
mostly general tips
raven dew
gothca okok
normal mist
i could be wrong
raven dew
how about wowlogs
normal mist
Yeah you can check pretty much everything there
raven dew
isnt it like relative performance
lethal arrow
wlogs m+ is not dps related
raven dew
oh hmmm lemme see if theres a legend around
lethal arrow
its purely based on speed/completion
normal mist
oh hmmm lemme see if theres a legend around
guys parsing "well" are doing the highest keys, 99% sure
raven dew
lethal arrow
just means u guys went too slow
raven dew
oooh ok
interesting
how do you actually compare your dps to whats theoretically "perfect"?
lethal arrow
u cant
raven dew
ah ok
lethal arrow
because people will do keys where they pull insane
and it looks like theyre doing 5m dps a pull
lethal arrow
at best u can like maybe compare ur dps to ppl in a video on a boss
and see how ur doing
raven dew
at base level im aiming to be #1 dps in the party 😂
lethal arrow
but like gl finding a video of someone ur exact ilvl doing ur exact key level on a boss
normal mist
at base level im aiming to be #1 dps in the party 😂
EXACTLY
raven dew
oh really
normal mist
Do that while carrying silences/kicks/interrupts/helping your healer by using health potions + Lock stones
raven dew
thats a mind boggler
lethal arrow
our class sucks!
raven dew
Do that while carrying silences/kicks/interrupts/helping your healer by using he...
🙏 will do!!
normal mist
When i do a M+ (which i dislike) i always try to be sure that i'm doing my absolute BEST to help carry the group. If not by damage, by being useful
raven dew
i find reapplying bleeds during a big pack the hardest lmao
lethal arrow
as long as ur playing ur class correctly
nothin else matters
aside from timing the key
vast loom
i find reapplying bleeds during a big pack the hardest lmao
Most 10s 11s i do there's usually not enough time left on the pull to really re apply bleeds between pulls
lethal arrow
well thatll happen regardless if packs live too long
raven dew
i might need to modify my plater profile to just show garrote and rupture
raven dew
Most 10s 11s i do there's usually not enough time left on the pull to really re ...
ahhh im just starting out so im only just getting into 4s
normal mist
The one time i felt like a clutched a key, was stonvault, during the double boss. Casters forgot to interrupt the dwarf boss so i shadowstep kicked everytime to be sure we wouldn't have to run back because of a wipe
raven dew
The one time i felt like a clutched a key, was stonvault, during the double boss...
DAYYUUUMMMM
raven dew
just track ur ruptures for the 5
ok this is clutch ty
lethal arrow
most of ur M+ dmg will be from caustic and CT
vast loom
Sin is very awkward in low keys
normal mist
Plenty of good folks doing videos
lethal arrow
i think uhhh
raven dew
me
raven dew
oooo dope
timber stump
should i craft 636 dagger or wrists? wont be able to get mythic dagger anytime soon
inland escarp
Who wants to watch it
Feels like bait
lethal arrow
should i craft 636 dagger or wrists? wont be able to get mythic dagger anytime s...
dagger off hand
timber stump
so i craft 636 dagger
arctic socket
Feels like bait
How
cobalt sphinx
what daggers do you have
arctic socket
Is that boat
timber stump
regicide heroic, and tanglewood thorn heroic
cobalt sphinx
yeah dagger for sure
timber stump
thanks
lethal arrow
yeh go ahead and craft ur 636
cobalt sphinx
mainhand dagger is the biggest upgrade you can get, offhand dagger is trash garbage
lethal arrow
then just pray u get one from vault/bloodbound
timber stump
thanks guys
humble verge
man
another 13 SV wasted
on the robot boss
literally
no kicking killed us
💀
humble verge
bro shutcho ass up before i beat yo lil bonkilonki sodonki ass
ok that was a bit too much
mb lil bro
the thing is
he wasnt on that end
he was literally RIGHT beside us
humble verge
but i had used the kick bnefore
and i SAW
healers kick was up
which was a shamn
normal mist
just the best interrupt in the game
humble verge
real
cobalt sphinx
did you guys overlap 4 kicks then
humble verge
did you guys overlap 4 kicks then
IDK MAAAAN
dumbfounded ngl
also idk
we were lock rogue and arcmage
never ran this combo in high keys
cobalt sphinx
lock is good damage in stonervault i think
cobalt sphinx
i have never seen arcane do anything useful outside of mists
humble verge
though he did chainpull
lotta shit
arcane be like
burst 6m on this pack
next pack
900k.
wait wtf
im in the earthen starting area
uh.
fleet pagoda
whatcha got there step golem
humble verge
how i even got to go through that portal idk
but damn
this is a nice spot, can just port to org/SW from there
normal mist
thats the "starting zone" of the new dwarves
onyx nymph
!wa
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shy whale
Hey guys,
I am main frost dk and i was wondering how assisinaton rogue compares to frost dk in playstyle in m+ environment.
I dislike fdk's big 2min cd's where even the tank has to play around my cooldowns to make it effective. Wondering how assa rogue does in that department?
lethal arrow
its completely worse and more work in every aspect
spice surge
Its less reliant on its cooldown during aoe pulls
cobalt sphinx
Hey guys,
I am main frost dk and i was wondering how assisinaton rogue compares ...
rogue is a lot more fun and does a lot moe damage outside of cooldowns
i'd say it flows much better too
spice surge
But its also harder to use the cooldown since you need a big target
cobalt sphinx
i actually hate playing frost, it feels sluggish and messy with resources and globals. i think sin flows much better
shy whale
But its also harder to use the cooldown since you need a big target
Hmm, sounds like Breath of Sindragosa to me
vast patio
Whatcha guys think is the drop for iron wire here?
spice surge
If your target dies when you have breath it doesnt matter
shy whale
i actually hate playing frost, it feels sluggish and messy with resources and gl...
Exactly how id put it myself - sluggish
spice surge
Whatcha guys think is the drop for iron wire here?
MA, SB or TTK
vast patio
all hard choices, bleh
coral ibex
sanguine for sure
cobalt sphinx
@shy whale i have a 625 fdk and 636 rogue, and i'd say the only things i like about fdk are that it is invincible and has grabby hands
vast patio
sanguine for sure
really? for like 10-12s?
coral ibex
yes sanguine is turbo bad for m+ ST which is the specs weakest aspect
quaint scaffold
Guys does someone have a build for low keys where trash dies fast ? Something with Zoldyck Recipe and Sudden demise wouldnt it be better ?
vast patio
sudden demise for sure
shy whale
<@254762496043253760> i have a 625 fdk and 636 rogue, and i'd say the only thin...
What do you like about sin conpared ro fdk? (trying to u understand what i would be getting into if i reroll)
quaint scaffold
I have the one from wowhead and it doesnt have Zoldyck recipe
balmy condor
then it's not a bleed build :P
quaint scaffold
Ok so its still not worth to combine these two on low keys ?
quaint scaffold
To me it made more sense since basically sudden demise would execute trash buffed with Zoldyck
quaint scaffold
Thanks appreciate it. So its only good in lows right?
cobalt sphinx
What do you like about sin conpared ro fdk? (trying to u understand what i would...
i like that it does great damage outside of its cooldowns and that there's a lot more freedom for gameplay optimization and room for error, you aren't forced into tight windows with as strict rules
balmy condor
Thanks appreciate it. So its only good in lows right?
it works in higher keys, it's just not preferred by people cause it doesn't really shine anywhere
less burst and all that
vast patio
I like how all I need is stealth and I pretty much have good enough damage for every single pull.
quaint scaffold
Ok then i guess its fine to stay the classic m+ with poison bomb and Dragon tempered if i dont win much from bleed build
vast patio
Large contrast to my mage lol
slate crown
These options seem rather limited. Could you perhaps provide some additional options from the above that allow for a greater range of playstyle expression?
quaint scaffold
I like how all I need is stealth and I pretty much have good enough damage for e...
Thats what i also like, having a fdk with a pretty decent rio
shy whale
damn, that's exactly the things i hade about fdk as well! This feels like a god choice already! @cobalt sphinx
To others that wrote back to me: I think i am going to be re-rollng rogue, aftert all, my first char was Rogue ^^
rotund oak
and it's in the wowhead guide
just dont say to anyone to read or search for anything,too hard,takes too much for their precious 10 seconds while playing 10 hours a day
trail flax
damn, that's exactly the things i hade about fdk as well! This feels like a god ...
If you are coming from dk like i did, the first thing you will notice is that you actually have to play the game, the chances of falling over is way higher than dk
plush iris
can you cloak retch on first boss of nw?
balmy condor
!nw
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The breath/frontal from the first boss in Necrotic Wake is an attack, not a spell.
In order to immune the the breath, you must be in the first second of cloak of shadows (“a moment of magic immunity”). After the first second of cloak of shadows has elapsed, the attack will hit you and no longer be immuned.
Alternatively you can use evasion to dodge the breath.
plush iris
ye just wondering
balmy condor
ye
plush iris
felt like i have claoked it before
balmy condor
it's weird
proud rune
what are some good weak aura/add ons you use for assassination rogues?
shy whale
If you are coming from dk like i did, the first thing you will notice is that yo...
i don't think i understand - falling over because of messign up your rotation?
If that's what you meant, i feel like fdk is much more punishing becaue it's so easy to mess up your big cd and that's it (plus it's so dependent on big pulls and higher keys)
Please, i'd like you to elaborate if you don't mind
balmy condor
so what if i evasion it i take 0 damage then
yes, it's dodgeable
cobalt sphinx
yeah and it can be intervened too, if you get a warrior it can cover every single one
balmy condor
i don't think i understand - falling over because of messign up your rotation?
I...
falling over cause we aren't giga tanky like dk
shy whale
oh 🙂
proud rune
what are some good weak aura/add ons you use for assassination rogues?
looking for some kind of rotation helper for assassination rogue
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balmy condor
there's weakauras here
proud rune
there's weakauras here
ty bro
pliant jay
guys are we using oil or whetstone on our weapons?
lethal arrow
looking for some kind of rotation helper for assassination rogue
the best rotation helper is to go practice on a target dummy until you have it down
shy whale
i watched the dk im paired with on kyveza take like 6 lines
yeah, fdk is like a tank (i mean literal tank) but as real tanks goes, feels sluggish as well..
vast patio
Curious, would we take sudden more to high keys if it wasn't supposedly bugged?
balmy condor
what's bugged about it
proud rune
the best rotation helper is to go practice on a target dummy until you have it d...
that's the plan for the next week - ty
vast patio
A purple name said it was bugged a few days ago /shrug
coral ibex
source
balmy condor
what
vast patio
Something about only checking one time when it hits the 35% threshhold?
balmy condor
vast patio
idk
coral ibex
oh i do remember reading that and then i thought to myself what a stupid thing to post
vast patio
my source is that i made it the fuck up
vast patio
oh i do remember reading that and then i thought to myself what a stupid thing t...
I'm not crazy i swear.
balmy condor
it checks constantly
it just only procs once
and if it doesn't kill it has an internal cooldown
to prevent like dummies going wild and shit
vast patio
I didn't know it can proc without killing tbh.
balmy condor
it can in open world with scaling issues
vast patio
All I know is it's a really funny talent on 'trivial' keys.
pliant jay
guys are we using oil or whetstone on our weapons?
guys are we using oil or whetstone on our weapons?
coral ibex
yes
lethal arrow
guys are we using oil or whetstone on our weapons?
yup
vast patio
I use wax+whet
balmy condor
but I'm not aware of any issues with it in dungeons
coral ibex
oil or whetstone is fine
vast patio
It seems broken in delves.
coral ibex
rotund oak
guys are we using oil or whetstone on our weapons?
double whetstone and plz read the guide
vast patio
but otherwise seems fine to me?
balmy condor
It seems broken in delves.
..yes
shy whale
A couple more questions i'd like to know about:
- Does sin also has issues in lower keys due to mobs dying too quick as breath fdk has?
- How's the AOE dps profile compared to other classes? Or is Sin more of a single prio target spec?
vast patio
I'm pretty sure there's delve specific tuning?
balmy condor
- yes
- idk you spread some bleeds and then pound one target with caustic spatter and it spreads like blade flurry
lethal arrow
do not use the F word
balmy condor
I'm pretty sure there's delve specific tuning?
yes but delves are in open world, which is what breaks it
crimson nova
i've enjoyed sin a lot more than fdk this season for 10s and below
vast patio
I missed my rogue and sin didn't disappoint.
Probably gonna get my demo lock going soonish.
shy whale
1. yes
2. idk you spread some bleeds and then pound one target with caustic spat...
1. yes - hm, any ways to play around that - different build/rotation?
lethal arrow
not really
balmy condor
Guys does someone have a build for low keys where trash dies fast ? Something wi...
that's what this was about
cobalt sphinx
i feel like the damage is still great even wth short pulls and things dying fast
lethal arrow
`1. yes` - hm, any ways to play around that - different build/rotation?
you just press the same buttons u press for ST a couple extra times
lone lantern
`1. yes` - hm, any ways to play around that - different build/rotation?
do bigger keys ;D
cobalt sphinx
you aren't below the tank like afflock
crimson nova
it's also ok if you aren't super pumping on easy keys , if mobs are dying fast that's a good thing lol
shy whale
alright, thanks for all the info guys, much appreciated. I think i am going to give it a go!
proud rune
is there a way to hold a key down where it mimics the press key action? I'll watch videos/streamers cast the same action 3 times in a row without a delay. Any tips?
wondering how they are doing this
proud rune
that's some fast key pressing then
coral ibex
not really, the spell queue is pretty forgiving
proud rune
not really, the spell queue is pretty forgiving
is it a setting of some kind in the wow interface?
or it happens automatically?
coral ibex
it’s just a feature of the game
proud rune
k cool
silk sundial
How much do sin Rogues benefit from PI? If I'm consistently parsing in the 80s, would PI make a significant difference?
balmy condor
about 4%
lethal arrow
How much do sin Rogues benefit from PI? If I'm consistently parsing in the 80s, ...
PI would show on the logs anyways
vast patio
One thing I need to get better at is pooling in ST.
silk sundial
And we don't benefit as much as other classes like destro locks
hot ingot
Heyo, I have Hero Skardyn's and Sakbrood but I see more people running crystal and a couple running Ritual knife on logs
I simmed both and both are a good deal worse than Sakbrood, is this a sim issue or char specific? I hate having so much haste and I wish I could swap it
vast patio
I'm surprised a sac outsimmed heroic knife tbh.
ornate wagon
where can i find thebest m+ build to please guys?
hot ingot
619 Knife
normal mist
where can i find thebest m+ build to please guys?
You can't
vast patio
sin has a lot of variety for M+
lethal arrow
where can i find thebest m+ build to please guys?
TO DO WHAT?
coral ibex
where can i find thebest m+ build to please guys?
paypal me $1000
coral ibex
$450
lethal arrow
vast patio
Does sanguine influence SD at all?
limber lion
No
late tusk
!wa
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humble verge
@lethal arrow im in voice with the officer, considering telling how you guys blasted him rofl
lethal arrow
just a fucking weird thing for him to be hung up on
vast patio
what did I miss
late tusk
I think its not related to assa, and its more general, but what do yo recommend more, BigWigs/LittleWigs or DBM?
vast patio
I dropped dbm for big/little awhile ago
humble verge
just a fucking weird thing for him to be hung up on
the thing is, we have a lot of people who arent running atleast r3 enchants or gems
vast patio
no regrets
lethal arrow
his officer is telling him to reslot his gems for .001% dps
coral ibex
<@121800614245040128> im in voice with the officer, considering telling how you ...
screenshare the channel to him
lethal arrow
when hes top dmg on the fight
humble verge
screenshare the channel to him
💀
i even managed to get a 97 log on sikran with what i have
humble verge
like
ive spent probably around
~300k in stuff since start of this expac
in repairs and upgrading gear
its getting to me
vast patio
fortunately leather farming made me like 3 mil to cover all the stupid shit I've been buying >.>
humble verge
rofl
honestly
i should just do some crafting at the start of an expansion one time
vast patio
im thinking about just boosting keys
doesn't sound so bad as sin tbh
humble verge
but i didnt even join at the start
humble verge
doesn't sound so bad as sin tbh
the thing is ACTUALLY getting to boost
the advertisers prefer teams
vast patio
mmm
vast patio
I've had some boosts and uh, man, some of those people are special.
not the boostee, the people doing the boosting.
cobalt sphinx
we almost +2ed a boralus 10 with a 530 pally and our damage wasn't even that good
spice spire
Breadgetter getting that bread
pearl steppe
hey im using whispyrws weakaura
spice spire
Yeah I don’t get why people hate siege so much.
Outside of like. The last boss key is super free
pearl steppe
wondeirng if there's an explainer for like
stray adder
isnt 778k kinda low for a 630 prot
pearl steppe
what things like the abilities being highlighted, dotted line borders etc what it all means
vast patio
Last rogue question for now: watching kingsbane's CD, around what time would you start pooling for it?
20s?
cobalt sphinx
just invited us to a group on a monday night and told us he needs a 10
stray adder
I wouln't pay either if one of the booster was a BM hunter 
spice spire
They weren’t getting paid
golden ivy
Two keys today I am suddenly unable to stealth out of combat, even after /rl, trying everything
no one else experiencing this?
vast patio
did you kick an orb
cobalt sphinx
5 guildmembers gearing an alt that will never be played
spice spire
Nahhhh
Palapete better pay up
Or he’s not getting another piece on main from raid
Ya feel
cobalt sphinx
2 mail pieces from every boss every week, he already has all the loot so he wouldn't be mad
stray adder
quake you watching Tyson Vs Jake Paul tonight?
lethal arrow
Last rogue question for now: watching kingsbane's CD, around what time would you...
no pool
spice spire
Absolutely not
lethal arrow
giga chad
cobalt sphinx
what are the chances the fight isn't fixed
stray adder
lethal arrow
just dump all ur energy all the time
spice spire
what are the chances the fight isn't fixed
Almost 0
cobalt sphinx
lift
spice spire
stray adder
lifting at midnight is kinda crazy
spice spire
Went hard last night
spice spire
lifting at midnight is kinda crazy
I do that all the time on the weekend
No excuses big dog
stray adder
unhinged
cobalt sphinx
i go at 10pm
spice spire
Kinda demonic schedule rn
Rest day on Friday so both weekend days are lift days
Kinda fucked up
cobalt sphinx
before 10pm the gym is packed with broccoli hair pajama pants npcs
spice spire
I’m an 8 pm guy
stray adder
before 10pm the gym is packed with broccoli hair pajama pants npcs
that is such an accurate description
i know exactly
what you're talking about
cobalt sphinx
i need some heavy dbs at home, i have a bench but i hate it
doesn't feel like a natural movement
stray adder
you don't need that, ive heard you can barely db press 45 pounds
spice spire
I love the home bench
But gym just has the heavy stuff so 
I focus on movement and form at home and just work until I’m tired during the week
humble verge
not the boostee, the people doing the boosting.
the thing is, atleast oblivion has such a low fucking cut off
its 2,5k
and that just barely scratching having all 10s timed
you cant guarantee most of these guys even timing the 10s they are atleast doing xd