#assassination

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quasi stump
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Right Foot of the Harbinger
Left Foot of the Harbinger

lethal arrow
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they gotta hire us for this

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and its like spine

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except the plates are the toenails

quasi stump
spice spire
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With my tongue maybe

quasi stump
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And the globs we kite around are like..

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Your spit

spice spire
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I mean

ebon notch
pliant remnant
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What in tarnation

drifting cloud
ebon notch
drifting cloud
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thats why hes gearing up multiple chars, to split raid xallytoes

glass lagoon
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idk why my combo points appear above platers. Who knows which setting is it?

balmy condor
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what nameplate addon

glass lagoon
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platers

balmy condor
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hm

tropic cedar
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@sudden brook im finding that p1 is much more bearable now with the new timings

runic hinge
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Yellow name pinging guy in assa channel

gloomy heart
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eww yellow

little saffron
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and I got it

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eta gege

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EZ PZ

gloomy heart
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e z

little saffron
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EZZZ brothers & sisters

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EZ

gloomy heart
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When does this new member role fall off, i wanna be red

static glacier
runic hinge
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you gotta go set your own role

gloomy heart
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i have new member role

static glacier
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speaking of roles I gota go ask for sbs

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since they changed snd to ds smh

runic hinge
runic gorge
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
tropic cedar
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or really the fight in general

runic hinge
runic hinge
balmy condor
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well no actually

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you can't get sbs role from anywhere I think

runic hinge
balmy condor
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oh nice

static glacier
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testing

runic hinge
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go uncheck the one from the bottom pin

static glacier
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we should be good now

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xd

solemn oracle
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How big of an inconvenience is transmitter compared to Skardyn's grace (both at 639 ilvl)?

static glacier
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some bosses / pulls it's np, others gl ur gonna die 1/10 pulls for it

real onyx
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hero ovi trinket or myth set piece

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ovi is higher dps but

static glacier
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I personally never use transmitter as sin, I have both at same ilvl too

real onyx
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mythic gear is mythic gear

static glacier
real onyx
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myth is boring but ye

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im swaying that way

solemn oracle
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I see, I'm kinda torn about if 8k extra dps from transmitter's worth it going into Queen prog tonight and for higher end m+

static glacier
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if you're prepared to put in a lil effort the ovi trinket is technically over-budget

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compared to other passive options

oak tangle
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rogue spymasters when

static glacier
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but i dont think the gain from crystal / spyglass / sacbrood > ovi is bigger than hero > myth tier

runic hinge
solemn oracle
runic hinge
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yyeah the orb is the one thats a bitch tbh

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that shit will fuck off right into some bad

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sat in last boss CoT orb for me

static glacier
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i've had it go in water / walls in siege

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the wall was right before the first spotter mob after 1st boss by like 2 packs

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i could see it inside the wall, couldn't get it

silent stratus
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does ovinax mercurial sim assume a perfect usage (<20 stacks) for all the dslice?
it sims better (+1.2%) but I am struggling to keep <20 stacks for all dungeons and I am worried it is a simbait

solemn oracle
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Alright, thank you gamers, I appreciate all of you. I'm just gonna go for the sake of consistency all across the board with Skardyn's and just get transmitter after we kill queen this week (hopefully)

static glacier
drifting cloud
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unless youre somehow staying under 10 stack of agi perma its good

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but if you have any of the other good trinkets also on myth track you can atleast consider them

stable coral
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i really cannot decide, both mythic track. ST the dagger (crit mastery) and M+ the dagger is a bigger upgrade although i thinks its easier to get any mythic track dagger, there is only one BiS trinket tho. also bloodmallet sims suggest the spyglass inst even that insane compared to other trinkets. (my main trinket is skardyns grace) murlock.io shows data that spygalss isnt used that often aswell. any ideas bois and girls?

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im currently running everforged stabber 636 and regicide 626

slate crown
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Also there is not only one BiS trinket

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BiS is a myth

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!bis

prisma monolithBOT
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BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.

Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS is especially not helpful, and we do not have any of them. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. Use Top Gear/Droptimizer to compare against your character

slate crown
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This chance is the only way you have to acquire spyglass myth track. You don't have to take it, but personally I would for that reason. There are many myth daggers

pliant grail
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Arakara or Crystal for m+? :/ got skardyn and knife 626 both

sudden sigil
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already got skardyns + egg in HC track, in AOE seems ara is a dps loss but gain in ST.
Legit thought mythic trcak ara > egg

sudden sigil
blazing pumice
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they are almost identical in sims

coral ibex
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crystal is quite good in m+

blazing pumice
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crystal sims like 0.1% higher than sacbrood

coral ibex
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or any aoe situation

sudden sigil
blazing pumice
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dslice

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mix of aoe and st

stable coral
gloomy heart
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W

stark helm
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
sudden sigil
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Well myth track chest gives bigger up grade than myth track ara kara so chest might be the play today

ionic fox
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Any other rogues here start on Takazj for mythic court? It is SO AIDS with mark

high ice
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Should i do double radiant power on my weapons or just 1 and get a writhing armor branding piece crafted?

blazing pumice
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the probability of getting a chest from the vault is substantially higher than getting the trinket

pearl steppe
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hey does anyone have recommendations on what "weakauras" or mods to use for assassination rogue

blazing pumice
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and obviously you can't get trinkte from raid

pearl steppe
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things that would maybe make it easier to track poisons and bleeds

blazing pumice
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
pearl steppe
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all of those?

blazing pumice
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whispyrs wa and cevs plater

vast patio
blazing pumice
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would be my recommendation

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but personal opinion etc

vast patio
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At least he said something like that in a recent stream

blazing pumice
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the heroic knife is better than anything you are getting without a vault

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but like, good luck getting it

vast patio
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I lucked out

blazing pumice
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the only diff is that it's farmable

sudden sigil
static glacier
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im fairly sure

vast patio
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3 delvers bounties today and the third gave it

blazing pumice
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isn't that an on use trinket

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idk i don't raid

vast patio
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Kinda but not really

static glacier
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you want it to be between 10/20 and 20/10

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the on use just freezes the stacks for a bit

slate crown
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They all aim to support what you asked about

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All will tell you the information you need, the selection is personal preference

static glacier
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ngl I need something to help me fall in love with rogue again, im raidlogging, doing 4 keys a week on my main :l

pearl steppe
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@blazing pumice for the plater

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is that through WA as well?

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or is it different

blazing pumice
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plater is a separate addon

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it's basically the gold standard atm

pearl steppe
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is it on curseforge?

blazing pumice
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yep

pearl steppe
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top one?

blazing pumice
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64 mil downloads

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yep

pearl steppe
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what does the plater do

real onyx
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Hey anyone know what the item is called that lets you put a socket into a ring or neck piece

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forgot

pearl steppe
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uh what did i do

slate crown
slate crown
real onyx
slate crown
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you didn't do anything, the addon author didn't update their file correctly

pearl steppe
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oh ok

ivory kernel
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If im trying to sim dagger with embellishment how do I with raidbots

dim estuary
magic thorn
ivory kernel
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tyty

magic thorn
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Only chance to get it to myth track is weekly

dim estuary
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I already have it

magic thorn
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Well then either trust your sim or your guts.

static glacier
pearl steppe
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@blazing pumice hey so i did /plater

static glacier
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you can re-gem / enchant to make stats on sikran neck more useful

pearl steppe
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and the website said to paste it into the scripting area on the pictures

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so i did that and hit okay etc

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but now reading the instructions again it says "whatever matches what you are importing"

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so is scripting the right spot

dim estuary
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  • the neck is free gilded …
pearl steppe
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im getting this issue

distant plinth
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Neck all the way if you dont have it!

pearl steppe
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nvm figured it out

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i had to do it under profiles

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ok cool i did whispers WA and cev's plater

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idk which does what but hopefully ill get used to them

solemn echo
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Howdy folks, had a question was looking through lorgs, and found the rank 1 sikran parse. Anyone know how he's getting KB back ever 50s instead of 1m?
His 2nd DM is also up before 2 mins.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VKbLvJWwn4fyxctY#fight=16&source=54&type=casts

It's not blessing of autumn. genuinely stumped and curious how he got those cds back that fast.

NVM, wcl has it blacklisted for bugged/exploited log. just lorrgs doesn't update to match

split grail
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Is the transmitter simbait or is the wowhead article out of date. It says mythic transmitter is a 1.9% upgrade over my max heroic sacbrood and mandate. Like I get its a higher ilvl but wowhead puts transmitter as a clist trink

slate crown
pearl steppe
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thanks lis

slate crown
split grail
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Fair

slate crown
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It gets c-tier because it's ass

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you can read what the article says

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It is very strong though

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Also if you dual spec it's cracked for sub

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I use transmitter because that's the only active I have (and I play sub too so it's good there)

split grail
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Been playing rogue since wrath prepatch. Have never once touched sub lol

slate crown
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First time for everything Surebud

silent wagon
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how we feeling about Sureki Zealot's Insignia for m+?

split grail
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I'm too old to learn new things. I'm happy sticking with sin through high and low

slate crown
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and yet ur name is yellow monkahmm

rotund oak
split grail
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I have corrected my bevahiour

tawny geyser
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I'm scared to pick this up.
I'm not used to stand still and I'm not sure how it works. It sims highest of all, do I still go for it?

rotund oak
split grail
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I...thought I did

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Hmm...I have isin selected, maybe an officer needs to confirm or something

rotund oak
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remove outlaw by unclicking it..

split grail
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It...isnt selected

rotund oak
slate crown
rotund oak
split grail
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I had to select and unselect

torpid gyro
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what is it about empowering crystal? I see a lot of top players runníng it but on sims sacbrood seems better?

tawny geyser
rotund oak
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missives and vantuses

cerulean nest
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just dont do it

slate crown
tawny geyser
slate crown
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today was a p good one

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can't read chat all day just brrrr

rotund oak
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pretty sure ovinax would win patchwreck

cerulean nest
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its not feasible to correctly do mythic raid mechanics and keep the egg at the proper stacks

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but if theres some other situation you want it for, it sims well

tawny geyser
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hmm, I might just pick up chest then.
ah man, why cant I just get the damn Skardyn in my vault 😢

cerulean nest
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so go for it

rotund oak
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and ive got resourcefulness tools

tawny geyser
cerulean nest
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im doing double on-use for silken and then will go back to skardyns and crystal for queen

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gonna be fine lol

slate crown
rotund oak
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comes out mages craft their bis wpn

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😉

slate crown
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I wish I hadn't put points in gear crafting, I can max staves and alchemy tools and it's pointless to me

gloomy heart
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what’s a good alt to
make

rotund oak
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druid

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gatherer

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making millions

slate crown
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wish all those points were in something else like vantus or ciphers or inks

rotund oak
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else mage

tawny geyser
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But I also did get a 626 Mandate...is it simming the cast damage from it?
However it's -5k dmg

rotund oak
slate crown
gloomy heart
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i need a alt, any suggestions

rotund oak
slate crown
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I already know what I'd do for most of my crafters, though most of them I'm actually fine with where I spent, I feel like I planned decently well this time around (though still have some mistakes I'd like to correct)

rotund oak
slate crown
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yeah I mean I have the gold to throw into any black hole they want to throw at me if it gets me something cool

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if respecs cost gold

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Honestly missives

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I feel like there's like... I don't know, some hidden multicraft multiplier, I feel likeI consistently get giga procs

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well above what craftsim predicts

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like more than just I'd expect from sheer luck

rotund oak
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need to investigate

slate crown
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I only realized they were worth doing in the last like 4 days

orchid pewter
rotund oak
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multicraft tends to proc,skyrocket the gains and then rebounds,then again the same to even out a bit

slate crown
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so haven't done them too much but been pretty good

rotund oak
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yup

autumn gyro
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Does the raid poison ring have any interaction with Shiv? Got it in vault an im sure it’s a great upgrade

blazing pumice
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no

orchid pewter
gloomy heart
slate crown
# rotund oak yup

What was interesting to me about it is that they also seemed to sell almost just as fast during off hours too. Like on Saturday/sunday when I would expect there to be less crafting, they still flew off the shelf very quickl. I was surprised

orchid pewter
slate crown
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extra damage = good so ring = good

orchid pewter
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Good stats too

dim estuary
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How do you guys check what is coming for 11.0.7 ? Not finding anything on wowhead (class balance wise)

slate crown
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we consult the crystal ball

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but if you aren't a wizard, sorry

wise gull
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I have the rashanan neck in my vault but I don’t want to take it in case I get the sikran one 💀

pearl steppe
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quick question does garrote apply in an aoe cause sometimes it looks like it does

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or do i ahv eto tab thru and garrote many targets 1 by 1

potent lance
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i need help with crafting

balmy condor
dim estuary
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😢 someone here talked about some KP rework for 11.0.7

slate crown
prisma monolithBOT
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Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

  • The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
  • You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

slate crown
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krebler pebbles

dim estuary
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I have no clue 😂😂

pearl steppe
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ah yes i have carnage ok that helps

balmy condor
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keebler pelvis

slate crown
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I mean knowledge points

hexed frost
idle inlet
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kitchen patrol he is in the army

pearl steppe
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ok noted

balmy condor
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kooking poop

pearl steppe
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i never know how liberal to be with my vanish to get the better garrote and ruptures

balmy condor
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that's part of the fun

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you have to do it on instinct

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skill check

balmy condor
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yooooooooooo

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KERMIT PORN?

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where

potent lance
rotund oak
dim estuary
pearl steppe
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should i always ambush over mutilate when ambush is available?

blazing pumice
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only with blindside procs

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in m+ you only ambush on opener for DM

slate crown
pearl steppe
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so if im trying to dump as much dmg as possible the sequence is something like:
ambush from stealth
death mark
kingsbane
improved garrote
rupture

and then mutilate / shiv / envenom until it's time to vanish and reapply the bleeds?

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not worried right now about learning the pandemic stuff just yet

blazing pumice
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kb is always after deathsmark

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er

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after your dots

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read the wowhead guide

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for rotation

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there's a few steps before putting dm/kb up

primal yoke
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This was a +10 Dawnbreaker, does this seem like a pretty usual Overall Damage breakdown if you are playing correctly? Wasn't sure if my tempest or rupture damage needs to be higher or not

fast mural
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Shall i pick Sureki ? Already have back

rotund oak
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doesnt look like a dilemma

clever sapphire
clever sapphire
potent lance
clever sapphire
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These are questions for a sim

final dawn
clever sapphire
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For me upgrading myth track to 639 was a bigger upgrade, than recrafting my 619 to 636

final dawn
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Not such a hard question I would say

clever sapphire
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Ye insane ring

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(Jk grats on skardyns)

silent wagon
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Might have a socket as well!

severe pagoda
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I haven't received any trinkets from the vault since the beginning of the season (even a weak one), do you change the loot spec to sub to get trinkets? or i'm just superiour unlucky ?

clever sapphire
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Unlucky

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I didnt get any either

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The only thing that would change your vault is setting to outlaw

final dawn
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I would consider myself lucky, tbh I never had a bad vault except maybe the first 1 or 2 (but started late into xpac)
But I already have skardyns (626) so this is not like a double dip

clever sapphire
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Now you wouldnt get daggers

severe pagoda
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yeah, i'm only spec on assa, outlaw is fun, but my guild needs me on assa

noble flume
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worth taking gloves and convert into tier?

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i already killed sikran mythic but dont get the drop

final dawn
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I guess depends on what you already have.

potent dagger
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Would wait up until after your re-kill of the boss ^^

noble flume
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i got head pants mythic

noble flume
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  • wrists 636 craft
left sundial
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Finally

late ravine
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gz

knotty canopy
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Is Wax even with Whetstone for m+ or Whetstone better?

tawny geyser
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I'm still having trouble deciding what should I take...
Whatever I sim, either DSlice or Patchwerk or Fatebound, Mercurial Egg always comes on top...
But how does the "On Use" work exactly?
The next big upgrade after the Trinket is the Chest Set.

fickle girder
balmy condor
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the on use locks the stacks yeh

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it also doesn't impact the cd of your other trinket

tawny geyser
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Oh I get it, so if I would stand for like 5-6 seconds and had to move because of raid mechanic, it would pause it.

final dawn
balmy condor
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yeh if you're at like

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20/10 stack

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you can use it

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and be at 20/10 for 20 seconds or whatever

fickle girder
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You always have 30 stacks in raid environment as they don't stop accumulating, unless you die. So on pull you'll always have 30, in whatever way you want them, and pause it on pull

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Or whenever you use your cds, I guess

tawny geyser
balmy condor
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yah I mean it's really just a passive trinket

tawny geyser
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Well I'm progging Silken, and there's a lot of movement there so that's why I'm a bit in dilemma.

tardy shard
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any1 knows why a 639 dagger from vault simes 40k lower than 636 crafted without embellish?ù

fickle girder
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Yeah there is no bad way of using it, really

balmy condor
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well the bad way would be to be hardstuck at 30 movement stacks

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like if you're hardstuck 30 stacks

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that's pretty awful

tardy shard
jaunty lotus
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Post the SIM?

balmy condor
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but as long as you're below like 23ish

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you're good to go

tawny geyser
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@balmy condor so based on the SS up there, do I take the Egg or would you say the Crystal/Chest is better?

fickle girder
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I think you'll have 20/10 ratio for the most part on any fight

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Unless you have ADHD and spam WASD all the time

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lol

rain wraith
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Egg is any A-D-A-D-A-D spammers dream

balmy condor
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crystal is a great passive

balmy condor
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the egg only changes stacks on its internal tick

jaunty lotus
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The blue crystal from dungeons?

tawny geyser
balmy condor
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if you're spamming adadadadada you actually miss

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a ton

rain wraith
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Crystal is great for m+

tawny geyser
jaunty lotus
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I have a hero track one that loses to ritual knife at 619 and only beats it by 0.1% at 626, pretty sad

rain wraith
knotty canopy
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!wax

prisma monolithBOT
tawny geyser
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I think I'll take the Crystal, because I will be rekilling Ovinax and I'll have a chance to get it again, while Crystal - welp who knows when it will drop again.

jaunty lotus
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Wait, is that wax good for m+?

fickle girder
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Negligible amount of dmg

late ravine
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Got cucked

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Do I craft now or take back 0_o

knotty canopy
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But is wax even with whetstone in m+ or way worse?

fickle girder
fickle girder
warm vortex
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:O

jaunty lotus
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I've been defaulting to whetstones, is mana oil better?

warm vortex
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Lots of optionsss

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time to sim

stray bloom
knotty canopy
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Kk, wax did at least 15kk overall in a +15 but idk how much the others contribute to dam

fickle girder
warm vortex
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Most likely sac tbf or tier heands

fickle girder
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But then again, if your trinkets are better...

balmy condor
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so

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it's simming high

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it'll get replaced when you get gear

warm vortex
fickle girder
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Sim

warm vortex
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dssadijoioij

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Bro went donwstairs and realised one of my partents left the milk out so i can't get tea
because im not using milk thats been left overnight

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Sac is a 0.3 % increase while tier is 0.2% on single target
I don't use sac in aoe but i will sim it

warm vortex
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Tea with milk in it yes
im not that big on black tea

fierce sigil
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Hey guys... im sorry i need ur help with my Vault today....
Which Item should i choose from this vault... raidbots just ignores Sacbrood and i thought this trinket might be pretty strong... im confused

balmy condor
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link the sim

balmy condor
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yeh

fierce sigil
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wait... i fixed that.... idk... ive seen that and fixed it before i started

proper seal
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dont see many rogues running Dead-Eye Spyglass, it seems to sim pretty good. Is it bait?

balmy condor
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I got it

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give me a sec

warm vortex
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Alright

balmy condor
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because it's not a complex trinket

warm vortex
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sac is better in st for me and also if i get it to max it's better than my crystal in aoe
pog

runic hinge
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Every thing is sim bait if you're tempted by it all

warm vortex
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Now all 3 of my chars have mythic sacbrood

proper seal
rain wraith
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I think only attacks against main target refreshes the buff

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i use it for ST fights and in m+ where i have alot of funnel targets

balmy condor
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so if you apply the debuff and then build the buff to 5 and refresh the stack when the debuff has 1 second remaining

warm vortex
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Fuck it imma also post my tiny warrior vautk

balmy condor
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you essentially get 19 seconds of crit

warm vortex
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here

balmy condor
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you can get stacks from any damaging cast on the target

proper seal
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so if I hit it with any aoe i get a stack?

balmy condor
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yes

proper seal
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seems easy

balmy condor
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for example here

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he gets maxed out in around 2 seconds

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and the buff lasts

proper seal
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nice, thought i was going to have to track yet another debuff but seems unecessary then

balmy condor
#

no

#

you don't have to track it at all

fierce sigil
balmy condor
#

but some people think you do

#

for god knows what reason

balmy condor
fierce sigil
icy acorn
balmy condor
#

yeah

#

you upgraded EVERYTHING

#

I only did vault stuff

#

to compare the vault stuff

#

but you just legit sent nearly 300 crests worth of upgrades

runic hinge
#

yeah well that's what he had selected originally i just added crests and disabled the gem replacements

balmy condor
#

wait no

#

more than that

#

465 crests

#

hollllllllllllllllllly

runic hinge
#

hell yea

balmy condor
#

just sim 5 weeks worth of crests ezclappers

fierce sigil
runic hinge
#

I should go to bed

balmy condor
#

yeh

runic hinge
#

I also simmed dslice

fierce sigil
#

Is Sacbrood even good for m+ when i dont have skardyns grace or Crystal from Dawnbreaker? @balmy condor

shadow ore
#

imagin the only good pick is this and that simms 1% better than my current heroic and champion daggers WHY does it have to be haste vers

runic hinge
#

get a scardyns and pair it with your sac and be happy

runic hinge
#

myth dagger is good

crystal helm
#

hehe, another week another mild disappointment, either upgrade to myth shoulders or spyglass?
currently running champ skardyns (25x 7-11 runs still no drop) & hero sacbrood

grizzled geyser
#

can rings/neck be put into the catalyst? I never tried

normal mist
#

No

ripe carbon
shadow ore
#

if im crafting a dagger its everforged stabber or stiletto?

grizzled geyser
#

stabber

shadow ore
#

ty

runic hinge
#

just don't craft the int one

fierce sigil
#

Is Sacbrood even good for m+ when i dont have skardyns grace or Crystal from Dawnbreaker? @balmy condor

grizzled geyser
#

offhand is kinda whatever and i dont think a crafted 636 will win out against a 639 mainhand even with "bad" secondaries

#

you can also do the recraft abuse and upgrade offhand for "free"

#

if you decide to craft that is

#

but idk if thats worth

normal mist
#

Usually isn't

shadow ore
normal mist
#

Stats on the MH aren't really important, it's the ilvl and the damage that comes with it

grizzled geyser
#

offhand is a weak slot

grizzled geyser
normal mist
#

Don't waste crafting oh

#

Literally the last piece of equipment to upgrade

wanton needle
#

should i take queens finger or just a myth 4set?isnt this finger a bit overated?

past bramble
#

Do you guys know if the recraft bug to save crest still works?

shadow ore
wanton needle
#

its not about siming right now the best upgrade its by long term

normal mist
#

Atleast for the rings it does

oblique flare
#

ring is a flat 1%

#

free damage, beats every myth ring

normal mist
#

It's the same as saying you're picking an item because of the bis list even if it sims like shit on your current profile

white siren
#

does ovinax works well as passive trinket or i pick an shoulder for catalyst

grim jay
normal mist
#

Gif didn't load damnit

wide sleet
#

any advice? got mych sacbrood and hc skardyn

warm vortex
ornate harbor
#

Got the poison ring in 626 HC version. And only myth track tier pieces (have hero from before maxxed)

#

Is HC poision ring better then seige and other hero ring?

tawny geyser
#

It's BiS

grim jay
naive sage
# warm vortex SIM

i think its safe to assume that a person with 3 mythic raid slots already simmed and is looking for further imput due to practicality of ovinax trinket or m+ input cause haste is fake in m+

iron carbon
warm vortex
#

How do i unload aweak aura without deleting it btw

tawny geyser
#

Well, it's 35k dmg increase for me and I'm 634 ilvl, the proc is just too good to pass on it.

willow relic
#

No clue what to pick ring or belt

warm vortex
#

Never assume people are smart X)
Like with what i just asked

grim jay
tawny geyser
#

hmm idk, and yes I was talking about HC. I might have a screenshot somewhere of the sim, but it was indeed 35k increase

subtle tundra
#

how is it not bis at hc?

#

even if you can get 639 rngs, it should outperform them

clever sapphire
solar wyvern
clever sapphire
#

i think its the 2nd or 3rd

iron carbon
#

For me at least

solar wyvern
#

Damn that is so wild, was it through top gear or droptimizer

warm vortex
#

realised after i typed kek

tawny geyser
#

erm i think it was gear compare

thorny crown
#

can i run 2 of them? Got one already

grim jay
grim jay
clever sapphire
subtle tundra
#

on hc

thorny crown
#

nvm rolled a 4 on it 😄

subtle tundra
#

yea if you have scuffed stats

#

all your haste is from fingers, and you replace one with the queen finger, its not gonna sim extraordinarely well

solar wyvern
#

Hmm, my fingers were crafted crit/mast and 639 siege ring. Only simmed 600 higher on top gear

#

With equal gems/chants ofc

grim jay
#

While not having low mastery in the first place

subtle tundra
#

but also at the same time

#

you wont get myth track fingers guaranteed

#

craft is best bet

grim jay
#

Probably ye

solar wyvern
#

Yeah crafted jewelry is op

subtle tundra
#

idk if youre gonna call some item BiS, its gonna the finger

solar wyvern
#

Good stats for cost

subtle tundra
#

not even skardyn is bis cause transmitter sims better, yknow

#

etc

solar wyvern
#

Yeah it dropped for my heroic reclear raid today and it went to the fdk because it was a sidegrade for me sadge

subtle tundra
#

transmitter has edge cases where you get 1 more use etc

iron carbon
#

Tbh, I find it weird to use it without CD

cobalt haven
#

Oh nooooo I crafted my dagger with the stats I wanted and now cant do the recraft

#

RIP offhand

cobalt sphinx
#

do it twice

#

or do feverflare

#

feverflare and peerless are fine

#

they are all fine

grim jay
#

Or just add griftahs

#

If you dont use ascendance

wise gull
#

can't decide between heroic sikran neck or mythic rash neck

#

myth neck is only like +4k dps but also crests

#

still have a couple weeks before extending

iron carbon
#

@balmy condor I guess you took a socket mate?

brittle viper
#

I am stuck guys. I got these trinkets but got sacbrood in vault. The wowhead guide says sacbrood is s-tier but bloodmallet shows it low for multi target. What would be the best way forward for me here?

little saffron
#

Imagine having a 580 gloves but mythic Skar

#

xDDD

brittle viper
#

hero sac 😦

wise gull
#

other options?

brittle viper
#

myth pants crit/mast

#

Simming 5 targets for 2 minutes shows 10k dps loss for sac vs the pants

clever sapphire
thorny harness
#

it's defo myth hands angle right?

clever sapphire
# brittle viper

take pants, its myth track and myth track is what you cant farm

#

you can always farm the hero track arakara if you decide so

little saffron
grizzled geyser
# brittle viper

i would for sure take pants and make them tier pants, hero sac isnt that great and you can just farm that in m+ endlessly as well

#

myth track is very hard to come by if you dont raid, really just vault

grim jay
turbid pike
brittle viper
clever sapphire
#

obvious choice

brittle viper
clever sapphire
#

thats the only item you wont be replacing probably ever this season

maiden bear
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
wet wharf
#

Finally got Skardyns Grace yesterday. With leech even!

pearl steppe
#

hey i use cev's plater

#

and right now ally summons all have names above their head

#

it was really cluttered

#

when the warlock summoned a bunch of demons in my party

#

is there a way to hide their names using the plater

velvet vault
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
manic quartz
#

This is trinket angle right if i have both trinket and cloak hero track.

blazing pumice
#

yes

#

actually idk

pliant remnant
#

I mean, the cloak is just a cloak with some avoidance and healing taken

#

Crystal is big

cobalt sphinx
#

639 is pretty good

pliant remnant
#

Yeh, a 639 Crystal is pretty good, I agree

cobalt sphinx
late surge
#

Its for sure a trinket angle

pliant remnant
manic quartz
#

took the crystal :3

lucid orchid
#

Hello guys, wondering if someone could help what is the best way to get your most out of kingsbane? I hit like 15M the other day and I’m unsure why it was so much higher than usual? RNG?

brittle viper
lucid orchid
#

Yeah

late surge
#

Make sure u dont drop envenom during kb

cobalt sphinx
#

make sure you get lucky with crits

#

in execute

late surge
#

With ttk the double envenom almost guarantees maxed kb

late surge
late surge
#

Twist the knife

#

But other then keeping ur envenom buff up and using shiv to cover the duration of KB its rng

wild hound
#

Not sure if everyone knows this already, but supercharged combo points now work super with deathstalker! Like it actually consumes darkest night if your Supercharged CP pushes you up to max

lavish geyser
#

pretty saucey, sadly I dont raid on this char :C

tawny geyser
#

Do we have any WA for Egg Trinket?

fierce bison
#

wait all day for a bus and 3 come at once

karmic hemlock
#

wtf

brittle viper
#

2x Dawnthread or focusing lense for M+?

blazing pumice
#

dawnthread

subtle tundra
#

i wish i could transition

#

fuck all of your vaults

grim plover
terse heath
#

'Fresh alt' with crappy gear still... Which one would you choose? (no luck on Skardyn's grace yet). Still need to sim btw

final star
subtle tundra
final star
#

I needed a 2nd trinket

#

I get a 2nd trinket

subtle tundra
#

so do i

#

but i get a socket

final star
#

I've lived off vaults for like 5 weeks

#

I need a socket too

subtle tundra
#

and last week i got the fucking back

#

from first boss

balmy condor
final star
#

I got a 2nd 639 weapon, so basically just gotta upgrade wrists next week

bronze pike
#

therefor your a bird

balmy condor
#

I have ovi’nax egg yeh

#

It’s not that bad

#

It’s only like

#

A little bad

lavish geyser
#

would it make sense to take trinket over a tier-peice? think chances of myth empowering crystal is quite lower to get again then myth pants

final star
#

myth legs are easy enough to get

#

trinkets are for life

lavish geyser
#

true, and I think also the pants sim better cause I have the trinket 626 but pants 619 since I wanted to hold my crests for vault

pliant remnant
pliant remnant
tawny geyser
pliant remnant
#

Yeh, it's really nice (as a new owner of a purple egg myself)

tawny geyser
#

Yeah I spent all morning thinking if I should get it, but after doing some in-depth research I said fuck it...considering we dont have ER anymore, this will do it 😄

snow hamlet
#

!bug

prisma monolithBOT
thin plinth
#

Hi guys, any ideas for a cool green toxic rogue transmog?

balmy condor
#

Hellfire citadel

remote oasis
#

Hello, I've changed my specialty to assassination because I can't handle deception, maybe that will help. I've already bought macros but they don't work. Does anyone have macros for me so that I can do more damage and use fewer buttons? It would also be cool if I could find someone who speaks German who could help me. My English is too bad for the discord here.

balmy condor
#

Blackrock foundry

tawny geyser
subtle tundra
#

deception?!? 😭

#

decepticons?!?!

orchid pewter
final star
pliant remnant
#

Can't handle deception KEKW

subtle tundra
#

he is german, i guess whispyr can help him with his deception

final star
#

we just had a massive culling of keybinds

#

and he wants to remove even more

balmy condor
vague solar
#

anyone have a plater mod for the mark

#

and for caustic spatter?

golden loom
#

wasnt too hyped about myth track gloves from vault but they rolled leech and gave me a lil dopamine boost

subtle tundra
#

i cant help with that cursed language

#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
balmy condor
#

I can and do not want to

grim jay
grim jay
subtle tundra
balmy condor
#

Its Wednesday varas

subtle tundra
#

i just hope its tuesday so i can open the vault again tomorrow

balmy condor
#

Understandable

grim jay
#

Varas was talking about BiS with me before, that probably kicked him back in time aswell

subtle tundra
#

haha i will touch your balls

pliant remnant
#

I can't wait for another Wednesday morning so I can open another vault without a Skardyn's in it so I can go do another 8 10 Grim Batols and slowly lose the will to live

grim jay
subtle tundra
#

🍥

grim jay
sharp viper
golden loom
#

champion track skadryns gang gang

balmy condor
#

Imagine doing m+ still

grim jay
#

I'd love to whip out the screenshot of someone having a myth skardyns with 580 ilvl blue hands from before

#

But im too lazy

subtle tundra
rotund oak
#

wtf

subtle tundra
#

NEED TO TALK TO THE TEAM. SEE OUR SCHEDULE TODAY

balmy condor
#

I have not done a key in 2 weeks and I am so happy

#

My life is better for it

#

My acne cleared up

grim jay
balmy condor
#

I could smell flowers

grim jay
#

Slacker

balmy condor
#

The birds sang

pliant remnant
subtle tundra
#

i push...

pliant remnant
#

So it's not that bad

subtle tundra
#

we cant do NW...... cursed fucking key

grim jay
#

So it is bad

remote oasis
pliant remnant
umbral sierra
#

if i kill heroic queen and get loot and a parse. am i able to say kill her again this week and while getting 0 loot get a 2nd parse?

pliant remnant
#

I skip out on guild's HC reclear, two Transmitters drop. I go to them next two weeks, none drop.

grim jay
subtle tundra
rotund oak
coarse aurora
#

I'm just gearing my rogue and I am trying Assa in ST. Is it normal for you to wait for ages for energy? I'm playing the M+ build but just practicing boss damage

grim jay
prisma monolithBOT
#

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

  • No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
  • 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
  • You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
grim jay
subtle tundra
#

ok babe

rotund oak
# grim jay Jawohl

the only german thing i know to spell is BMW 😂 (and that coz its short)

#

oh

#

and Mia San Mia

#

coz bayern

grim jay
prisma monolithBOT
rotund oak
#

grim jay
balmy condor
rotund oak
#

LOL

merry bison
#

crystal on 639 but still no skardyns in sight

rotund oak
#

😂

balmy condor
#

It’s even better cause the acronym works in English too

#

International joke

coarse aurora
# balmy condor !design

Does this still apply for the M+ build? I am not running vicious venoms in m+. Should I be?

grim jay
balmy condor
coarse aurora
#

Ok I understand the other stuff lol, just asking specifically about vicious venoms

balmy condor
#

Vicious venoms is dogshit

kind forge
coarse aurora
#

Why is it in the bot command then... Do you run it in raid build?

balmy condor
#

Because it plays into the design of the spec

#

It’s an example

#

Of how the spec is designed

umbral sierra
#

whyspyr could u look at a heroic kyveza log rq. i wanna make sure im not gimping my st rotation

iron carbon
balmy condor
subtle tundra
iron carbon
#

Taking it as exemple

grim jay
coarse aurora
#

Right thanks fellas

balmy condor
#

Consistency of tofu

ripe bobcat
#

got the GB Back on myth. wuhu. no trinket and no rings -.- Anlackyy

grim jay
balmy condor
#

You’ve discovered the joke

iron carbon
#

Fun fact, Depths sim lower in ST than Radiant Power

grim jay
#

Dang I got it even tho I didnt know what you were talking about

#

Mom, I did it

balmy condor
iron carbon
#

Neat, I don't have to bother switching it

subtle tundra
#

you didnt have to regardless

#

its only better on pure st

#

which is like 2 bosses

iron carbon
#

I had a lot of daggers so I was just switching these

umbral sierra
#

for 2/4/14 queen heroic should be looking at 7 melee 7 ranged or should we be more caster heavy etc

subtle tundra
#

you should be looking at having the best skilled players

final star
#

so that's me out then

umbral sierra
#

i thought u wanted extra casters for the bombs but i could be wrong

subtle tundra
#

nah bombs are put close to melee anyways

#

anyone can do them

umbral sierra
#

but u want 1 from each group right?

subtle tundra
#

?

umbral sierra
#

1 from odds 1 from evens from the split or na

subtle tundra
#

i mean sure

umbral sierra
#

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subtle tundra
#

but the unsplit dmg thing

#

does no dmg

#

anymore

#

was relevant week 1

umbral sierra
#

as in its dam is nerfed now

subtle tundra
#

dam nerfed, high stam

#

you dont need to minmax get 2 stacks

#

its whatever 5 stacker

#

do a bit of healing

simple spindle
#

myth boots or myth trinket? 628ilvl atm

sharp viper
royal lantern
#

if the answer is "no i dont" you take the trinket

bronze pike
#

I take the trinket cause I like crystal and it has a pretty icon

#

We are not the same

grim jay
#

Apparently

bronze pike
safe patrol
#

got empowering and skardyns myth, not sure abt taking sac if outlaw ever happens, legs are one of my few non myth track but boss 1 drop or socket

bronze pike
#

I must destroy you now

grim jay
light lake
#

is it worth catalysting champion gear to get the tier set advantage?

grim jay
#

Is it christmas already?

bronze pike
coral coral
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
bronze pike
#

It’s always good to have a arsenal of trinkets, but I think the play is do raid first then if you get pants or not

#

You get pants from vault or gem

bronze pike
#

Placeholder pfp

safe patrol
#

cheers

fathom nest
#

Crystal or Egg?

dry dagger
#

I guess I just got myself a new neck

fathom nest
#

sims dont tell you about emotions

dry dagger
#

No, but they will tell you what does more damage

sharp viper
torn mist
#

Nice hands xd

fathom nest
fathom nest
sharp viper
#

it doesn't exist

#

yet

grim jay
#

Soon

#

It will be a forum to post about your newest feelcrafts

sharp viper
#

no it will be a rng that justs picky any items from your /simc input and tells you "trust me bro"

rotund oak
#

😍

iron carbon
final star
#

DM

past panther
#

gm all

iron carbon
#

So you don't get more use than Skardyn, it's just that you don't have MM Skardyn or you just find transmitter better?

final star
#

Don't have 639 skardyn

fossil basalt
#

how do i get plater to track caustic splatter as a debuff? i tried just typing it in but it says it doesnt exist

iron carbon
#

It should track it by default

#

If you use the automatic shit

fossil basalt
#

i had it as automatic but it filled my entire screen with debuffs and i couldnt see anything, want to do it manually and just track like caustic splatter garrote kingsbane deathmark rupture

#

i was typing splatter and not spatter...

iron carbon
#

Tbh, I just blacklist the debuff I don't wanna see

warm vortex
#

So now I’ve got two mythic trinks

#

Grace and sac

iron carbon
#

As you can see on the left column

warm vortex
iron carbon
warm vortex
#

Cheers

#

Should be 632 once sac is upgraded

#

Now I need two mythic rings, boots and a neck

#

Then im full crafted/mythic

iron carbon
warm vortex
#

We have the same rings

#

Not boots and neck tho

iron carbon
#

Head and waist still need to upgraded

warm vortex
#

And gems are different

#

Wait

#

Yea similar set

autumn remnant
#

yo do we still shiv at the last 8 seconds of kb if we play 1 charge?

final dawn
#

Y would we not?

iron carbon
#

Unless your target do not leave all KB duration, yes

autumn remnant
#

cuz the sim shivs before entering kb, so I was wondering why

agile geode
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
iron carbon
#

So idk what you running

warm vortex
#

Sikran neck

#

And Whispyr boots

#

Or whatever they are called

final star
warm vortex
#

I did have the pendant but I socketed my sikran so I might wear that over it

iron carbon
#

Sikran goated in Raid

#

But boots? xD

fossil basalt
final star
#

it definietly does

#

It says by ID right there

#

I use manual tracking and I add via spell id to that

clever sapphire
warm vortex
#

That doesn’t sound natural

clever sapphire
#

i put a haste gem in, now im faster

#

this sounds like taking speed or dunno xD

autumn remnant
#

so any ideas on why the sim shows shiv before entering kb when u play 1 charge

#

instead of the last 8 seconds

warm vortex
#

Btw how are we all today

winged quail
#

ok Myth Skardyn's this week we gaming

iron carbon
#

Btw, read the yellow shit

winged quail
#

unless you are playing Arterial with one charge in AoE

#

you hold for end

iron carbon
autumn remnant
#

my talent

#

do u want a raw one

edgy cloak
#

ST opener. Why are we doing muti + muti after the rapture which triggers serrated bone and we have full combo points? Rapture (triggers serrated bone spike and give us full CP) -> Muti (Still full CP) -> Muti (Still full CP)?

iron carbon
solar wyvern
winged quail
solar wyvern
#

When you rupture in aoe, you're rupturing three targets, so three spikes go out

#

Thats why your cp fills

arctic socket
#

It’s isn’t multi multi it’s fok multi <

edgy cloak
#

Hmm. I tried it at the single target dummy but I got full CP. Maybe the other mobs target dummies are tagged somehow

final star
#

This is the important part

warm vortex
#

HOW THE FUCK DID IT TAKE ME THIS LONG TO NOTICE

iron carbon
subtle tundra
#

are you stupid

solar wyvern
#

Kekw

warm vortex
#

I always wondered why SBs did so much

warm vortex
subtle tundra
#

fair

warm vortex
#

It’s stupid it took you this long to realise

#

Like I knew it went on multiple targets

solar wyvern
#

Damn hittem with the martyrdom reversal

warm vortex
#

Because of the CP gen

final star
#

first gives 1cp, 2nd gives 2cp, third gives 3cp

warm vortex
#

But I didn’t know it was cause of IC

final star
#

one rupture does 3 with IC