#assassination
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they gotta hire us for this
and its like spine
except the plates are the toenails
That just means we’re peeling off her toenails 
With my tongue maybe
I mean
What
What in tarnation
yes and?
Ok and you?
thats why hes gearing up multiple chars, to split raid xallytoes
idk why my combo points appear above platers. Who knows which setting is it?
what nameplate addon
platers
hm
@sudden brook im finding that p1 is much more bearable now with the new timings
You get me
eww yellow
e z
When does this new member role fall off, i wanna be red
can't you just set role to sin for red?
you gotta go set your own role
i have new member role
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
ya we were talking about ansurek p1 the other day :p
or really the fight in general
idk how to get there tbh
Make sure that's unchecked
you can get sbs from whispyrs message ^
oh nice
ty for heads up, used to be ask only
testing
go uncheck the one from the bottom pin
How big of an inconvenience is transmitter compared to Skardyn's grace (both at 639 ilvl)?
depends on situation entirely
some bosses / pulls it's np, others gl ur gonna die 1/10 pulls for it
I personally never use transmitter as sin, I have both at same ilvl too
mythic gear is mythic gear
id lean towards the tier, unless you have very poor trinkets / can't harm hero track dungeon trinks
yh hmm
myth is boring but ye
im swaying that way
I see, I'm kinda torn about if 8k extra dps from transmitter's worth it going into Queen prog tonight and for higher end m+
if you're prepared to put in a lil effort the ovi trinket is technically over-budget
compared to other passive options
rogue spymasters when
but i dont think the gain from crystal / spyglass / sacbrood > ovi is bigger than hero > myth tier
just pray for jump jump jump every pull
i gotcha ty
What're the variations? x3 jump, stand in an RNG spot and just pick up orb?
yyeah the orb is the one thats a bitch tbh
that shit will fuck off right into some bad
sat in last boss CoT orb for me
i've had it go in water / walls in siege
the wall was right before the first spotter mob after 1st boss by like 2 packs
i could see it inside the wall, couldn't get it
does ovinax mercurial sim assume a perfect usage (<20 stacks) for all the dslice?
it sims better (+1.2%) but I am struggling to keep <20 stacks for all dungeons and I am worried it is a simbait
Alright, thank you gamers, I appreciate all of you. I'm just gonna go for the sake of consistency all across the board with Skardyn's and just get transmitter after we kill queen this week (hopefully)
it's good, even when not used optimally, but I would err on the side of the sims over-rate it compared to reality where we won't always optimally play it
unless youre somehow staying under 10 stack of agi perma its good
but if you have any of the other good trinkets also on myth track you can atleast consider them
i really cannot decide, both mythic track. ST the dagger (crit mastery) and M+ the dagger is a bigger upgrade although i thinks its easier to get any mythic track dagger, there is only one BiS trinket tho. also bloodmallet sims suggest the spyglass inst even that insane compared to other trinkets. (my main trinket is skardyns grace) murlock.io shows data that spygalss isnt used that often aswell. any ideas bois and girls?
im currently running everforged stabber 636 and regicide 626
Offhand weapon (which this would be if you take the dagger) is one of the lowest contributing slots. You already have a myth mainhand.
I make my vault decisions based off of rarity / difficulty of acquiring an item, not necessarily its power
Also there is not only one BiS trinket
BiS is a myth
!bis
BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.
Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS is especially not helpful, and we do not have any of them. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. Use Top Gear/Droptimizer to compare against your character
This chance is the only way you have to acquire spyglass myth track. You don't have to take it, but personally I would for that reason. There are many myth daggers
Arakara or Crystal for m+? :/ got skardyn and knife 626 both
already got skardyns + egg in HC track, in AOE seems ara is a dps loss but gain in ST.
Legit thought mythic trcak ara > egg
Seems alot of the good assa rogues is running crystal + skardyns
they are almost identical in sims
crystal is quite good in m+
crystal sims like 0.1% higher than sacbrood
or any aoe situation
In AoE situations?
Feels like Ara is abit poor in aoe?
thank you for your thoughts, i was leaning towards the trinket aswell. im gonna take it

W
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
Well myth track chest gives bigger up grade than myth track ara kara so chest might be the play today
Any other rogues here start on Takazj for mythic court? It is SO AIDS with mark
Should i do double radiant power on my weapons or just 1 and get a writhing armor branding piece crafted?
Wdym
not necessarily
the probability of getting a chest from the vault is substantially higher than getting the trinket
hey does anyone have recommendations on what "weakauras" or mods to use for assassination rogue
and obviously you can't get trinkte from raid
things that would maybe make it easier to track poisons and bleeds
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
all of those?
whispyrs wa and cevs plater
I think casual is hunting for a heroic knife
At least he said something like that in a recent stream
the heroic knife is better than anything you are getting without a vault
but like, good luck getting it
I lucked out
the only diff is that it's farmable
True but im running hc egg + skardyns and they sim higher than ara
myth ovi egg is better
im fairly sure
3 delvers bounties today and the third gave it
Kinda but not really
it's a statstick that gives mainstat / ur highest secondary but the amount depending on stacks that change by you moving / standing still
you want it to be between 10/20 and 20/10
the on use just freezes the stacks for a bit
You can click through those and see which you like and pick
They all aim to support what you asked about
All will tell you the information you need, the selection is personal preference
ngl I need something to help me fall in love with rogue again, im raidlogging, doing 4 keys a week on my main :l
is it on curseforge?
yep
what does the plater do
Hey anyone know what the item is called that lets you put a socket into a ring or neck piece
forgot
Magnificent Jeweler's Setting
"Load Anyway"
tyty
you didn't do anything, the addon author didn't update their file correctly
oh ok
If im trying to sim dagger with embellishment how do I with raidbots
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1264673094849658960/1306136856131538954/image.png?ex=6735923d&is=673440bd&hm=792cb21f0f0e827885c7b0679722b7df5bfb7d6359786c40797080d054fcbecf&
Sureki no brainer ? The trog cape is simming 5k higher (on 1M5 dmg patchwerk lol) tho…
Go to Top Gear, add dagger in item search, add embelishment onto item
tyty
If Skardyns is Mythic think about it again
Only chance to get it to myth track is weekly
I already have it
Well then either trust your sim or your guts.
it's always neck, the cloak is invalidated by rash cloak's defensive value
@blazing pumice hey so i did /plater
you can re-gem / enchant to make stats on sikran neck more useful
and the website said to paste it into the scripting area on the pictures
so i did that and hit okay etc
but now reading the instructions again it says "whatever matches what you are importing"
so is scripting the right spot
Yeah you are right the cape is not BIS
- the neck is free gilded …
Neck all the way if you dont have it!
nvm figured it out
i had to do it under profiles
ok cool i did whispers WA and cev's plater
idk which does what but hopefully ill get used to them
Howdy folks, had a question was looking through lorgs, and found the rank 1 sikran parse. Anyone know how he's getting KB back ever 50s instead of 1m?
His 2nd DM is also up before 2 mins.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VKbLvJWwn4fyxctY#fight=16&source=54&type=casts
It's not blessing of autumn. genuinely stumped and curious how he got those cds back that fast.
NVM, wcl has it blacklisted for bugged/exploited log. just lorrgs doesn't update to match
A Website to compare top parses in World of Warcaft.
Is the transmitter simbait or is the wowhead article out of date. It says mythic transmitter is a 1.9% upgrade over my max heroic sacbrood and mandate. Like I get its a higher ilvl but wowhead puts transmitter as a clist trink
Plater is for the health bars above your enemies. Cev's plater updates the tracking on them to be more specific to our spec's needs.
Whispyr's WA is the icons and bars in the center of your screen
thanks lis
Transmitter is strong but it is ass to play
Fair
It gets c-tier because it's ass
you can read what the article says
It is very strong though
Also if you dual spec it's cracked for sub
I use transmitter because that's the only active I have (and I play sub too so it's good there)
Been playing rogue since wrath prepatch. Have never once touched sub lol
First time for everything 
how we feeling about Sureki Zealot's Insignia for m+?
I'm too old to learn new things. I'm happy sticking with sin through high and low
and yet ur name is yellow 
no feelings,its good
I have corrected my bevahiour
I'm scared to pick this up.
I'm not used to stand still and I'm not sure how it works. It sims highest of all, do I still go for it?
not rly,Upper left side of ur discord panel==>channels and roles==>change ur role
I...thought I did
Hmm...I have isin selected, maybe an officer needs to confirm or something
remove outlaw by unclicking it..
It...isnt selected
if u dont have a crystal go for it,its underneath
It seems to not be now
you did it
.. welcome to the boomer club
I had to select and unselect
what is it about empowering crystal? I see a lot of top players runníng it but on sims sacbrood seems better?
Well, 639 Crystal is 0.1% compared to my 626 Hero Track Crystal and this Egg is 1.1%
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4NXvV1qmNQKN6S3vjC1qy9
made an irrelevant push on iscription,ended up making 300k yday 
missives and vantuses
the egg is a-hole to play around
just dont do it
I was sleeping on it for awhile, Missives are p good, went into them over the last few days
Yeah exactly, that's what I'm worried about.
crystal isnt ideal ST,u need spyglass for that,its pretty strong for m+
pretty sure ovinax would win patchwreck
its not feasible to correctly do mythic raid mechanics and keep the egg at the proper stacks
but if theres some other situation you want it for, it sims well
hmm, I might just pick up chest then.
ah man, why cant I just get the damn Skardyn in my vault 😢
so go for it
the only boring thing is milling,i hate it 😂
and ive got resourcefulness tools
Nah, progging Silken at the moment, this trinket would be useless.
im doing double on-use for silken and then will go back to skardyns and crystal for queen
gonna be fine lol
yeah I didn't do anything with milling or inks or ciphers, I wish I did, I just buy all the missive stuff, my next goal is ciphers for points but that's going to take a while before I actually get anything out of it
its also good for crafting mage and warlock stuff
comes out mages craft their bis wpn
😉
I wish I hadn't put points in gear crafting, I can max staves and alchemy tools and it's pointless to me
what’s a good alt to
make
wish all those points were in something else like vantus or ciphers or inks
else mage
11.0.7 KP respec
But I also did get a 626 Mandate...is it simming the cast damage from it?
However it's -5k dmg

Yeah, they pulled it back for now but I'm super curious what they're cooking and how it will work
i need a alt, any suggestions
im willing to swim on a goldsink idk,so many possibilities there
I already know what I'd do for most of my crafters, though most of them I'm actually fine with where I spent, I feel like I planned decently well this time around (though still have some mistakes I'd like to correct)

yeah I mean I have the gold to throw into any black hole they want to throw at me if it gets me something cool
if respecs cost gold
Honestly missives
I feel like there's like... I don't know, some hidden multicraft multiplier, I feel likeI consistently get giga procs
well above what craftsim predicts
like more than just I'd expect from sheer luck
Paladin
multicraft tends to proc,skyrocket the gains and then rebounds,then again the same to even out a bit
so haven't done them too much but been pretty good
yup
Does the raid poison ring have any interaction with Shiv? Got it in vault an im sure it’s a great upgrade
no
Its still good tho, should sim high

What was interesting to me about it is that they also seemed to sell almost just as fast during off hours too. Like on Saturday/sunday when I would expect there to be less crafting, they still flew off the shelf very quickl. I was surprised
Not much brainpower needed and its fun, good alt option imo
yeah it's just a ring with a bit of extra damage to it, no interaction with our amps
extra damage = good so ring = good
Good stats too
How do you guys check what is coming for 11.0.7 ? Not finding anything on wowhead (class balance wise)
Well for those of us that are wizards
we consult the crystal ball
but if you aren't a wizard, sorry
I have the rashanan neck in my vault but I don’t want to take it in case I get the sikran one 💀
quick question does garrote apply in an aoe cause sometimes it looks like it does
or do i ahv eto tab thru and garrote many targets 1 by 1
i need help with crafting
we wait until the patch notes come out
😢 someone here talked about some KP rework for 11.0.7
!carnage there's a talent at the bottom of the tree that allows it to cleave, look at your bottom row for indescriminate carnage
Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required
- The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
- You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets
Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.
It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.
wtf is kp
krebler pebbles
I have no clue 😂😂
ah yes i have carnage ok that helps
keebler pelvis
I mean knowledge points
Indiscriminate Carnage Talent.
You can spam garrote and ruptures on the prio target and it should spread automatically
kitchen patrol he is in the army
ok noted
kooking poop
i never know how liberal to be with my vanish to get the better garrote and ruptures
yeah its the product itself,its something ppl would buy w/o thinking the gold for it.Missives are pivotal and relatively simple to craft
What should i craft?
#assassination message
ok I get it now 😂😂
should i always ambush over mutilate when ambush is available?
Yeah that's fair, it's also relatively cheap so yeah people will just click buy and they only buy it once at a time typically, they're not purchased by other people doing bulk crafts who are careful with what they're buying
so if im trying to dump as much dmg as possible the sequence is something like:
ambush from stealth
death mark
kingsbane
improved garrote
rupture
and then mutilate / shiv / envenom until it's time to vanish and reapply the bleeds?
not worried right now about learning the pandemic stuff just yet
kb is always after deathsmark
er
after your dots
read the wowhead guide
for rotation
there's a few steps before putting dm/kb up
This was a +10 Dawnbreaker, does this seem like a pretty usual Overall Damage breakdown if you are playing correctly? Wasn't sure if my tempest or rupture damage needs to be higher or not
Shall i pick Sureki ? Already have back
You already have the 2 embellishment slots, now its whatever you prefer
If you wanna fasten up the opener you skip the envenom. Dm without bleeds doesnt do anything pretty much so pressing it before putting dots up is a waste
also i ahve 1x myth track item dont know upgrade that or not
These are questions for a sim
For me upgrading myth track to 639 was a bigger upgrade, than recrafting my 619 to 636
Not such a hard question I would say
Might have a socket as well!
I haven't received any trinkets from the vault since the beginning of the season (even a weak one), do you change the loot spec to sub to get trinkets? or i'm just superiour unlucky ?
Unlucky
I didnt get any either
The only thing that would change your vault is setting to outlaw
I would consider myself lucky, tbh I never had a bad vault except maybe the first 1 or 2 (but started late into xpac)
But I already have skardyns (626) so this is not like a double dip
Now you wouldnt get daggers
yeah, i'm only spec on assa, outlaw is fun, but my guild needs me on assa
worth taking gloves and convert into tier?
i already killed sikran mythic but dont get the drop
I guess depends on what you already have.
Would wait up until after your re-kill of the boss ^^
i got head pants mythic
other things are heroic
- wrists 636 craft
Finally
gz
Is Wax even with Whetstone for m+ or Whetstone better?
I'm still having trouble deciding what should I take...
Whatever I sim, either DSlice or Patchwerk or Fatebound, Mercurial Egg always comes on top...
But how does the "On Use" work exactly?
The next big upgrade after the Trinket is the Chest Set.
The use on egg just pauses the effect at whatever stage it is.
the on use locks the stacks yeh
it also doesn't impact the cd of your other trinket
Oh I get it, so if I would stand for like 5-6 seconds and had to move because of raid mechanic, it would pause it.
I personally do not use chest and instead have crit/mast 626
yeh if you're at like
20/10 stack
you can use it
and be at 20/10 for 20 seconds or whatever
You always have 30 stacks in raid environment as they don't stop accumulating, unless you die. So on pull you'll always have 30, in whatever way you want them, and pause it on pull
Or whenever you use your cds, I guess
Oh that's a good piece of info. Didn't know that one.
yah I mean it's really just a passive trinket
Well I'm progging Silken, and there's a lot of movement there so that's why I'm a bit in dilemma.
any1 knows why a 639 dagger from vault simes 40k lower than 636 crafted without embellish?ù
Yeah there is no bad way of using it, really
weap enchant maybe
well the bad way would be to be hardstuck at 30 movement stacks
like if you're hardstuck 30 stacks
that's pretty awful
its up OO
Post the SIM?
@balmy condor so based on the SS up there, do I take the Egg or would you say the Crystal/Chest is better?
I think you'll have 20/10 ratio for the most part on any fight
Unless you have ADHD and spam WASD all the time
lol
Egg is any A-D-A-D-A-D spammers dream
I mean if you don't wanna deal with egg don't take it
crystal is a great passive
it isn't actually
the egg only changes stacks on its internal tick
The blue crystal from dungeons?
Yea
Crystal is great for m+
I know, it's good - but even then, DSlice still shows that egg is better than a 639 Crystal 😂
I have a hero track one that loses to ritual knife at 619 and only beats it by 0.1% at 626, pretty sad
Egg is extra minigame to keep track of
!wax
- Can be pickpocketed from kobolds in e.g. The Ringing Deeps. (needs The Final Candle questline completed.)
- Only use it on one weapon. (does not stack)
I think I'll take the Crystal, because I will be rekilling Ovinax and I'll have a chance to get it again, while Crystal - welp who knows when it will drop again.
Wait, is that wax good for m+?
Negligible amount of dmg
But is wax even with whetstone in m+ or way worse?
Your helmet needs a socket anyway 
Whetstone and Mana oil probably better
I've been defaulting to whetstones, is mana oil better?
Hello guys, can someone look at this: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nanX4UZJJWBB4Y22p7mWiJ is this candle trinket any good? Since in the wowhead guide it's listed under D tier and it wants me to change my MQM trinket, which I really enjoy
Kk, wax did at least 15kk overall in a +15 but idk how much the others contribute to dam
Whetstones are better
Most likely sac tbf or tier heands
If you raid, you'll get mythic hands anyway. You can't get ara kara trinket on mythic track any other way
But then again, if your trinkets are better...
yeh it's bad but it's your only stat use
so
it's simming high
it'll get replaced when you get gear
I use sac on heroic for ST
Exactly what im doing
dssadijoioij
Bro went donwstairs and realised one of my partents left the milk out so i can't get tea
because im not using milk thats been left overnight
Sac is a 0.3 % increase while tier is 0.2% on single target
I don't use sac in aoe but i will sim it
wait
tea+milk
?
Tea with milk in it yes
im not that big on black tea
Hey guys... im sorry i need ur help with my Vault today....
Which Item should i choose from this vault... raidbots just ignores Sacbrood and i thought this trinket might be pretty strong... im confused
link the sim
wait... i fixed that.... idk... ive seen that and fixed it before i started
dont see many rogues running Dead-Eye Spyglass, it seems to sim pretty good. Is it bait?
Alright
no it's just people refuse to accept how the trinket works and it's strange
because it's not a complex trinket
sac is better in st for me and also if i get it to max it's better than my crystal in aoe
pog
Every thing is sim bait if you're tempted by it all
Now all 3 of my chars have mythic sacbrood
hm does it mark something other than your main target?
I think only attacks against main target refreshes the buff
i use it for ST fights and in m+ where i have alot of funnel targets
let that cook
it applies a 10 second debuff to a target, if you hit that target it gives you a stack of a crit buff, up to 5, which lasts 10 seconds. Adding a stack refreshes the buff
so if you apply the debuff and then build the buff to 5 and refresh the stack when the debuff has 1 second remaining
Fuck it imma also post my tiny warrior vautk
you essentially get 19 seconds of crit
here
you can get stacks from any damaging cast on the target
so if I hit it with any aoe i get a stack?
yes
seems easy
nice, thought i was going to have to track yet another debuff but seems unecessary then
ty very much! How did u do that... 😄
if you hit "run sim again" you can see the setup
Ah ok! y true.. tyvm man

yeah
you upgraded EVERYTHING
I only did vault stuff
to compare the vault stuff
but you just legit sent nearly 300 crests worth of upgrades

yeah well that's what he had selected originally i just added crests and disabled the gem replacements
hell yea
And Sacbrood didnt get simmed cause of the same issue that i had
I should go to bed
yeh
I also simmed dslice
Is Sacbrood even good for m+ when i dont have skardyns grace or Crystal from Dawnbreaker? @balmy condor
imagin the only good pick is this and that simms 1% better than my current heroic and champion daggers WHY does it have to be haste vers
get a scardyns and pair it with your sac and be happy
stats are fake and can't hurt you
myth dagger is good
hehe, another week another mild disappointment, either upgrade to myth shoulders or spyglass?
currently running champ skardyns (25x 7-11 runs still no drop) & hero sacbrood
can rings/neck be put into the catalyst? I never tried
No
only tier peices (chest/legs etc), bracers, belts, cloaks, boots
if im crafting a dagger its everforged stabber or stiletto?
stabber
ty
just don't craft the int one
Is Sacbrood even good for m+ when i dont have skardyns grace or Crystal from Dawnbreaker? @balmy condor
but did you sim your vault dagger at 639? idk if crafting a dagger is worth for you
offhand is kinda whatever and i dont think a crafted 636 will win out against a 639 mainhand even with "bad" secondaries
you can also do the recraft abuse and upgrade offhand for "free"
if you decide to craft that is
but idk if thats worth
Usually isn't
if i take that dagger then my oh is heroic blood-kissed kukri so im just crafting to have to high IL daggers in both slots
Stats on the MH aren't really important, it's the ilvl and the damage that comes with it
offhand is a weak slot
sim your options before commiting
should i take queens finger or just a myth 4set?isnt this finger a bit overated?
Do you guys know if the recraft bug to save crest still works?
alright ill craft belt or bracer then and leave the hc dagger in oh untill im finished withe rest of my gear
its not about siming right now the best upgrade its by long term
Atleast for the rings it does
It's the same as saying you're picking an item because of the bis list even if it sims like shit on your current profile
Im always so sad it mentions stat weights
Gif didn't load damnit
any advice? got mych sacbrood and hc skardyn
SIM
Got the poison ring in 626 HC version. And only myth track tier pieces (have hero from before maxxed)
Is HC poision ring better then seige and other hero ring?
It's BiS
No
i think its safe to assume that a person with 3 mythic raid slots already simmed and is looking for further imput due to practicality of ovinax trinket or m+ input cause haste is fake in m+
Just a 0.2 % upgrade in ST compared to Crystal for me
How do i unload aweak aura without deleting it btw
It's the assa discord
Well, it's 35k dmg increase for me and I'm 634 ilvl, the proc is just too good to pass on it.
No clue what to pick ring or belt
Never assume people are smart X)
Like with what i just asked
Sounds weird. Its not BiS at all on heroic tho and depending on other slots you can definitely get higher dps with a crafted/myth track ring compared to heroic
hmm idk, and yes I was talking about HC. I might have a screenshot somewhere of the sim, but it was indeed 35k increase
there is a tab where you can just click the option to never load
My 626 ring simmed 600dps higher than crafted. Are you really low on crit chance or something?
i think its the 2nd or 3rd
HC 6/6 Queen Ring sim higher or equal at other 6/6 MM rings
For me at least
25% + spyglass
Damn that is so wild, was it through top gear or droptimizer
erm i think it was gear compare
can i run 2 of them? Got one already
Depending on gear it didnt at every point for me and its by definition not BiS, because you will replace it with myth track atleast.

Yes
i dont see a reason why you shouldnt, its not unique
if youre not gonna kill it on mythic, its bis
on hc
nvm rolled a 4 on it 😄
yea if you have scuffed stats
all your haste is from fingers, and you replace one with the queen finger, its not gonna sim extraordinarely well
Hmm, my fingers were crafted crit/mast and 639 siege ring. Only simmed 600 higher on top gear
With equal gems/chants ofc
Iirc it simmed the same as the grim butthole ring for me at that point, so it was just more mastery vs more crit
While not having low mastery in the first place
but also at the same time
you wont get myth track fingers guaranteed
craft is best bet
Probably ye
Yeah crafted jewelry is op
idk if youre gonna call some item BiS, its gonna the finger
Good stats for cost
Yeah it dropped for my heroic reclear raid today and it went to the fdk because it was a sidegrade for me sadge
transmitter has edge cases where you get 1 more use etc
Tbh, I find it weird to use it without CD
Oh nooooo I crafted my dagger with the stats I wanted and now cant do the recraft
RIP offhand
do it twice
or do feverflare
feverflare and peerless are fine
they are all fine
can't decide between heroic sikran neck or mythic rash neck
myth neck is only like +4k dps but also crests
still have a couple weeks before extending
@balmy condor I guess you took a socket mate?
I am stuck guys. I got these trinkets but got sacbrood in vault. The wowhead guide says sacbrood is s-tier but bloodmallet shows it low for multi target. What would be the best way forward for me here?
myth sac?
hero sac 😦
other options?
myth pants crit/mast
Simming 5 targets for 2 minutes shows 10k dps loss for sac vs the pants
sac sims worse for me than the crystal at same ilvl, both in dslice and in st
take pants, its myth track and myth track is what you cant farm
you can always farm the hero track arakara if you decide so
can u show me ur gear? also that legs is mythic?
i would for sure take pants and make them tier pants, hero sac isnt that great and you can just farm that in m+ endlessly as well
myth track is very hard to come by if you dont raid, really just vault
Probably 
put your higher ilvl dagger in main hand
Here is my gear currently. I'll be recrafting dagger to remove ascension soon and replace with dawnthread lining on wrists and new belt. Pants in vault are myth
aye take myth track pants
obvious choice
Thank you 🙂
thats the only item you wont be replacing probably ever this season
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Finally got Skardyns Grace yesterday. With leech even!
hey i use cev's plater
and right now ally summons all have names above their head
it was really cluttered
when the warlock summoned a bunch of demons in my party
is there a way to hide their names using the plater
!wa
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This is trinket angle right if i have both trinket and cloak hero track.
I mean, the cloak is just a cloak with some avoidance and healing taken
Crystal is big
639 is pretty good
Yeh, a 639 Crystal is pretty good, I agree

Its for sure a trinket angle

took the crystal :3
Hello guys, wondering if someone could help what is the best way to get your most out of kingsbane? I hit like 15M the other day and I’m unsure why it was so much higher than usual? RNG?
Did you shiv for the last 8 seconds of KB uptime?
Yeah
Make sure u dont drop envenom during kb
With ttk the double envenom almost guarantees maxed kb
True 
ttk?
Twist the knife
But other then keeping ur envenom buff up and using shiv to cover the duration of KB its rng
Not sure if everyone knows this already, but supercharged combo points now work super with deathstalker! Like it actually consumes darkest night if your Supercharged CP pushes you up to max
pretty saucey, sadly I dont raid on this char :C
Do we have any WA for Egg Trinket?
wtf
2x Dawnthread or focusing lense for M+?
dawnthread
Buy a lotto cupon
'Fresh alt' with crappy gear still... Which one would you choose? (no luck on Skardyn's grace yet). Still need to sim btw
fuck you too
I took 6 coins, I haven’t turned it in yet cause I have all my sockets
What
I got a 2nd 639 weapon, so basically just gotta upgrade wrists next week
would it make sense to take trinket over a tier-peice? think chances of myth empowering crystal is quite lower to get again then myth pants
true, and I think also the pants sim better cause I have the trinket 626 but pants 619 since I wanted to hold my crests for vault
I actually just fully hate you
Thank you, this one is so much better than the one I found. Really appreciate it.
Yeh, it's really nice (as a new owner of a purple egg myself)
Yeah I spent all morning thinking if I should get it, but after doing some in-depth research I said fuck it...considering we dont have ER anymore, this will do it 😄
!bug
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Hi guys, any ideas for a cool green toxic rogue transmog?
Hellfire citadel
Hello, I've changed my specialty to assassination because I can't handle deception, maybe that will help. I've already bought macros but they don't work. Does anyone have macros for me so that I can do more damage and use fewer buttons? It would also be cool if I could find someone who speaks German who could help me. My English is too bad for the discord here.
Blackrock foundry
I used to wear this 99% of the time, but after I finally acquired the Shadowlands Cloak daggers I switched to Red Mode
Tbc season 1 arena set
probably subtlety mistranslated
Can't handle deception 
he is german, i guess whispyr can help him with his deception
Do not drag me into this
wasnt too hyped about myth track gloves from vault but they rolled leech and gave me a lil dopamine boost
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
I can and do not want to
We dont use many macros. Actually just macroing trinket and deathmark
Potentially shiv and tea
Sei nicht so frech
ok! hope you have a great tuesday
Its Wednesday varas
i just hope its tuesday so i can open the vault again tomorrow
Understandable
Varas was talking about BiS with me before, that probably kicked him back in time aswell
haha i will touch your balls
I can't wait for another Wednesday morning so I can open another vault without a Skardyn's in it so I can go do another 8 10 Grim Batols and slowly lose the will to live
🍥
Imagine not having skardyns this late into the patch
champion track skadryns gang gang
Imagine doing m+ still
I'd love to whip out the screenshot of someone having a myth skardyns with 580 ilvl blue hands from before
But im too lazy
PUSH DAY
NEED TO TALK TO THE TEAM. SEE OUR SCHEDULE TODAY
I have not done a key in 2 weeks and I am so happy
My life is better for it
My acne cleared up
I atleast did 1 vault key
I could smell flowers
Slacker
The birds sang
tbf I do, but it's 606
i push...
we cant do NW...... cursed fucking key
I mean thats a just use transmitter angle
So it is bad

Ok thanks I just have problems with the rotation I do no damage unfortunately i have think Makros can help me
there are no macros
IF I COULD GET ONE
if i kill heroic queen and get loot and a parse. am i able to say kill her again this week and while getting 0 loot get a 2nd parse?
I skip out on guild's HC reclear, two Transmitters drop. I go to them next two weeks, none drop.

Rotation Makros sind ziemlich schlecht für rogues, genau wie rotation helper addons. Da hilft nur Dummy Training
Yes
ofc parses have nothing to do with the game itself, its all 3rd party
yavol
seek help

I'm just gearing my rogue and I am trying Assa in ST. Is it normal for you to wait for ages for energy? I'm playing the M+ build but just practicing boss damage
Jawohl
!design
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
ok babe
Ah okay thanks 😍🥰
the only german thing i know to spell is BMW 😂 (and that coz its short)
oh
and Mia San Mia
coz bayern
!wa whispyrs plater und WA helfen aber schon ziemlich mit dem Tracking
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Bayerische Motoren Werke AG is the name tho
You gotta know that IBM stands for Idioten bauen Maschinen
thanks i looking later
hold on need to google translate 
LOL
crystal on 639 but still no skardyns in sight
😂
Does this still apply for the M+ build? I am not running vicious venoms in m+. Should I be?
It applies when you’re specced into assassination
Ok I understand the other stuff lol, just asking specifically about vicious venoms
Vicious venoms is dogshit

Why is it in the bot command then... Do you run it in raid build?
Because it plays into the design of the spec
It’s an example
Of how the spec is designed
whyspyr could u look at a heroic kyveza log rq. i wanna make sure im not gimping my st rotation
It says that VV amplify the starving effect
Already did, looks great king keep it up you’re blasting
sometimes you play it. sometimes you dont
talent choices are based on tuning
just happens that you dont rn
Taking it as exemple
thank you 
I think its time to change your name again fam 
Right thanks fellas
Mental is firm
Consistency of tofu
got the GB Back on myth. wuhu. no trinket and no rings -.- Anlackyy
Ngl I never touched that. Isnt Tofu like quite wobbly
You’ve discovered the joke
Fun fact, Depths sim lower in ST than Radiant Power
Can happen depending on char yeah
Neat, I don't have to bother switching it
I had a lot of daggers so I was just switching these
for 2/4/14 queen heroic should be looking at 7 melee 7 ranged or should we be more caster heavy etc
you should be looking at having the best skilled players
valid. first time doing/ seeing queen heroic and ive been put incharge of raid comp etc.
i thought u wanted extra casters for the bombs but i could be wrong
but u want 1 from each group right?
?
1 from odds 1 from evens from the split or na
i mean sure
https://youtu.be/PAladvFsWoA?si=gIxSWDSFi0pxMA7k its what im getting from here but does it not matter?
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as in its dam is nerfed now
dam nerfed, high stam
you dont need to minmax get 2 stacks
its whatever 5 stacker
do a bit of healing
myth boots or myth trinket? 628ilvl atm
what if you press extra firm tofu?
do you have a mythic level sacbrood/spyglass?
if the answer is "no i dont" you take the trinket
You take the trinket cause it’s a decent boost in power
I take the trinket cause I like crystal and it has a pretty icon
We are not the same
based

got empowering and skardyns myth, not sure abt taking sac if outlaw ever happens, legs are one of my few non myth track but boss 1 drop or socket
I must destroy you now
Finally someone thats about to do it
is it worth catalysting champion gear to get the tier set advantage?
Is it christmas already?
Outlaw never happens
I mean how sure are you about outlaw
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It’s always good to have a arsenal of trinkets, but I think the play is do raid first then if you get pants or not
You get pants from vault or gem
Crystal or Egg?
sims dont tell you about emotions
No, but they will tell you what does more damage
have you tried feelicrafting.org?
Nice hands xd
Egg for ST, Crystal for Aoe/Cleave
never heard of it. is it good?
no it will be a rng that justs picky any items from your /simc input and tells you "trust me bro"
s@xy ponytails is infinite dps gain
😍
You press Transmitter on cd or you line up with DM each time?
DM
gm all
So you don't get more use than Skardyn, it's just that you don't have MM Skardyn or you just find transmitter better?
Don't have 639 skardyn
how do i get plater to track caustic splatter as a debuff? i tried just typing it in but it says it doesnt exist
i had it as automatic but it filled my entire screen with debuffs and i couldnt see anything, want to do it manually and just track like caustic splatter garrote kingsbane deathmark rupture
i was typing splatter and not spatter...
Tbh, I just blacklist the debuff I don't wanna see
As you can see on the left column

gz
Cheers
Should be 632 once sac is upgraded
Now I need two mythic rings, boots and a neck
Then im full crafted/mythic
We're the same
Head and waist still need to upgraded
yo do we still shiv at the last 8 seconds of kb if we play 1 charge?
Y would we not?
Unless your target do not leave all KB duration, yes
cuz the sim shivs before entering kb, so I was wondering why
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use spell id instead of names :3c
I did have the pendant but I socketed my sikran so I might wear that over it
I don’t think plater lets you it says type in the name otherwise I would’ve
it definietly does
It says by ID right there
I use manual tracking and I add via spell id to that
gz, i have a socket in my head now 
Please go to the doctor
That doesn’t sound natural
so any ideas on why the sim shows shiv before entering kb when u play 1 charge
instead of the last 8 seconds
Btw how are we all today
Sim plays wrong I guess X)
ok Myth Skardyn's this week we gaming
It doesn't
Btw, read the yellow shit
What did you change in your input?
ST opener. Why are we doing muti + muti after the rapture which triggers serrated bone and we have full combo points? Rapture (triggers serrated bone spike and give us full CP) -> Muti (Still full CP) -> Muti (Still full CP)?
Lemme check
Rupture doesn't give full cp in ST
SbS only gives max combo points in AoE with IC
When you rupture in aoe, you're rupturing three targets, so three spikes go out
Thats why your cp fills
It’s isn’t multi multi it’s fok multi <
Hmm. I tried it at the single target dummy but I got full CP. Maybe the other mobs target dummies are tagged somehow
WAIT WHAT
HOW THE FUCK DID IT TAKE ME THIS LONG TO NOTICE
Subterfuge + TTK seems to tend to this
are you stupid
Kekw
I always wondered why SBs did so much
Yes
fair
It’s stupid it took you this long to realise
Like I knew it went on multiple targets
Damn hittem with the martyrdom reversal
Because of the CP gen
But I didn’t know it was cause of IC
one rupture does 3 with IC











