i try not to cloak ever for the affix
#assassination
sonic zinc
i only do it as last resort
but im usually in disc witht he folks i run with and they let me know if they got the affix or not
dire sphinx
i'm using LE's wa to keep track of timers, my caustic isn't dropping
i feel like i'm missing something fundemental, but i can't figure it out
wispy marsh
i'm using LE's wa to keep track of timers, my caustic isn't dropping
First thing I do is mut after applying bleeds. You want to get that up asap. if you're delaying it at all it'll cost you
silk sundial
I don't have a dwarf, but stone stone form take care of thr affix?
wispy marsh
adds up after a while
wispy marsh
I don't have a dwarf, but stone stone form take care of thr affix?
yes
umbral sierra
Im having to cloak it becausei f it goes out between pulls it rips me from stealth
slate crown
sonic zinc
if u have a log of that run it would probably be easier for someone to spot something
if u provided it
ornate harbor
Like when do i FoK single target and any wa to track the buff??
severe sparrow
I low key always want to run keys with a second sin rogue so id know how scuffed i am but there's no other rogues in my friend group/guild/friends of friends somehow
wispy marsh
i feel like i'm missing something fundemental, but i can't figure it out
Are you NA or EU?
dire sphinx
NA
limber lion
Like when do i FoK single target and any wa to track the buff??
When you get CTW only
You get it everytime you apply a mark
very simple
pliant silo
Yeah man if you’re NA you just do less damage not much you can do about it
crimson zephyr
no idea but palter still seems convoluted
wispy marsh
NA
If you want to run a key rq I can check it out. I'm not the best rogue but I usually top all my keys
severe sparrow
Yeah the pulling out of stealth is annoying this affix that is true
limber lion
no idea but palter still seems convoluted
Plater looks good to me
Very necessary to play the game well
crimson zephyr
confuses the fuck out of me
limber lion
How?
sonic zinc
Yeah the pulling out of stealth is annoying this affix that is true
god i hate all the things that pull u out of stealth this season
dire sphinx
If you want to run a key rq I can check it out. I'm not the best rogue but I usu...
working right now, won't be able to run for a couple hours, just chatting on break
wispy marsh
mists kills me
limber lion
It's literally the same thing as a normal wow healthbar
sonic zinc
mists maze knocking me out of stealth so often
limber lion
except you remove all the useless trash
silk sundial
The orbs were annoying last week. Even after all the orbs were cc'd it would keep you in combat so it was difficult to restealth
hollow stone
you have to wait for the pack to actually spawn in in the maze before stealthing
severe sparrow
the maze is annoying but dealable with after i learned to just stealth after the mobs appeared but
wtf blizz
why do we have to do that at all
wispy marsh
hollow stone
(:
fickle lotus
some of yall need help, playing with quest tracker during combat is unforgivable
wispy marsh
working right now, won't be able to run for a couple hours, just chatting on bre...
Send me a message whenever you're off if you'd like and we can run one. Off the top of my head the only thing I can think is it's dropping or not being applied quickly. Sorry that I can't help much :/
severe sparrow
mine only hides in combat in dunjos n raid i think
open world combat is not actual combat
wispy marsh
you have to wait for the pack to actually spawn in in the maze before stealthing
Little me vibing back watching my fury warrior friend shit talk me because I can't just zug zug in
sonic zinc
hollow stone
Little me vibing back watching my fury warrior friend shit talk me because I can...
what a fun feature
pliant silo
This MDI reset lmao
pliant silo
The one team was getting fucking gapped
And they encountered a bug or something that forced both teams reset
sonic zinc
oof
drowsy hatch
well kasps bugged
pliant silo
Couldn’t spawn the lady 3x in city of threads to progress rp
drowsy hatch
which is why they were getting slapped
pliant silo
But they were behind by a full boss due to fuckups before any bug occurred, got hard rescued by the reset. I wonder if there’s a way to reproduce the bug as well
crimson zephyr
look at this shit ^^
limber lion
look at this shit ^^
Get a better profile then
pastel talon
How you get your shape to show up in the middle of the nameplate instead of the left for focus targets?
severe sparrow
this is the one i use, but i have to maintain the scripts n mods myself since it's outdated https://wago.io/1ZozQnKxj
crimson zephyr
Get a better profile then
default ui
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Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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LE's Rogue Collection
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Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
severe sparrow
i ran into luxthos in game the other day. it's the only time ive ever run into a named person
sonic zinc
How you get your shape to show up in the middle of the nameplate instead of the ...
raid mark
crimson zephyr
yeah I try for a day but I think I'll go back to default ui
like I don't need all that info
wispy marsh
yeah I try for a day but I think I'll go back to default ui
Try a couple, there's a few around.
fickle lotus
You could just make your own 🙂
crimson zephyr
can I change the cast bar to be not the same visual element as the health bar?
crimson zephyr
You could just make your own 🙂
why bother though if I am very happy with the default UI? ^^
limber lion
like I don't need all that info
But the point of the plater is to remove the useless info
Like wut
crimson zephyr
the stacking algorithm could be better with default
limber lion
Normal default ui nameplates are the worst
severe sparrow
if youre happy with default ui then just use default
sonic zinc
the stacking algorithm is the same for default and plater
limber lion
Is displayed on it
strange python
!tea
prisma monolithBOT
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
i hate the stacking ngl
crimson zephyr
Is displayed on it
I can handle that way better than plater
severe sparrow
like i want to like it but the implementation is just not doing it for me
limber lion
I can handle that way better than plater
No you cannot
severe sparrow
but i have to use them cuz i have mouseovers for like half my binds
limber lion
You're just not used to plater
wispy marsh
why bother though if I am very happy with the default UI? ^^
Try it for a bit and see if it works out. When I came back to the game I legit redid all of my keybinds. Was dying to common leveling mobs a month ago after a 6 year break. Now I got nice pink parses and damage is feeling nice. Stuff might take a minute to feel good but it'll help you improve.
limber lion
If you want to gimp yourself, you can do by not using a nameplate addon
But if you ever want to improve in the game and on the spec, you should always invest in a nameplate addon
crimson zephyr
You're just not used to plater
xxThen I need a profile that doesn't do the modern flat design
limber lion
Just edit them yourself
Idk
You're not forced to use the nameplates as is
You can modify them to your liking
wispy marsh
!wa
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Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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LE's Rogue Collection
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sonic zinc
wispy marsh
There's 2 different plater's there
stray adder
can we argue about auto tea instead
wispy marsh
Give them a try
sonic zinc
if uw ant to change the texture of the healthbar
hollow stone
all that type of stuff is best if you do it yourself, but it's time consuming or ppl dont have the expertise to do it
uneven rover
Was the first thing i did after starting assasin earlier, created my own plater better said im in the process for it
dapper cradle
wispy marsh
can we argue about auto tea instead
Hate it, give me old tea.
limber lion
Alchemical Chaos everywhere
severe sparrow
alternatively, just look through all these for one that you like the general look of https://wago.io/plater/plater-profiles
fickle lotus
mastery for keys chaos for raids
crimson zephyr
There's 2 different plater's there
god sure but then I haveto do like +2 keys because I am literally useless with plater xD
severe sparrow
you can make any of them fit your needs
stray adder
bro plater will improve your game dramastically
limber lion
god sure but then I haveto do like +2 keys because I am literally useless with p...
How???
stray adder
at the cost of FPS 
limber lion
I don't get it
limber lion
It's not though
wispy marsh
god sure but then I haveto do like +2 keys because I am literally useless with p...
We all gotta improve somehow. I still run +2 keys to help my wife out 😛
limber lion
It literally removes useless shit
crimson zephyr
how does plater improve your gameplay? honest question
severe sparrow
i dont like the aesthetics of the ones from this discord so i took the important parts of them and put them into a plater i liked to look at, ez pz now im happy with everything
limber lion
BECAUSE it removes all the useless shit
severe sparrow
it's easier to track stuff
limber lion
And you only see stuff that you need to see
You blacklist everything else that you don't need to see
stray adder
plater is insane wdym
limber lion
You use the coloring to keep track of Spatter
To keep track of pandemic
to keep track of bleeds
like
idk
stray adder
it gives you so much information in keys
crimson zephyr
You use the coloring to keep track of Spatter
why do you need spatter on the name plate to begin with
severe sparrow
i honestly could not play this spec without plater
limber lion
why do you need spatter on the name plate to begin with
Brother
coral ibex
nah plater is an L, costs fps. just run natty nameplates fuck it
wispy marsh
purple mobs get kicked, cyan mobs get stunned. Instead of reading names and going omg this guy, I just look at colors
pliant silo
My plater literally shows a tick mark on a cast bar for when kick will be off cd
stray adder
so you know which mob to go back to after target switching for CC
wispy marsh
Not to mention having all the poisons and useless info, I just need to know how many bleeds I have up and who has caustic/deathmark
pliant silo
And color changes if I have kick or WILL have kick
hollow stone
purple mobs get kicked, cyan mobs get stunned. Instead of reading names and goin...
hm but what if we dont see color? checkmate
coral ibex
who gives a fuck if this random fotm player uses plater or not
pliant silo
That’s p nice
coral ibex
if they don’t wanna that’s their choice
wispy marsh
hm but what if we dont see color? checkmate
Damn, you win this round
limber lion
who gives a fuck if this random fotm player uses plater or not
He has said in the past that he wants to get better at the spec
That's why
hollow stone
streamlining relevant info is goat'd who knew
arctic socket
hm but what if we dont see color? checkmate
Add a shape
coral ibex
plater good
gritty laurel
plater keeps me from looking as dumb as i really am when i play sin
uneven rover
And tbh like one said earlier you can adjust everything dont like splatter on plater? Just remove it, i couldnt play anymore without plater way too good addon
severe sparrow
i changed some of the stuff on whispyrs to be borders instead of colors bc the colors werent working for me
that's the beauty of plater
limber lion
You always know where everything is
So you don't need to look for stuff with your eyes
Like you do with default bars
17 debuffs, gl trying to find garrote somewhere there
coral ibex
look with your special eyes
limber lion
in a pack of 8 mobs
crimson zephyr
You always know where everything is
I don't know shit, I literally can't kick. adapting plater will be serious work.
wispy marsh
I copypasted my buddies and I love it, never seriously used it before.
severe sparrow
stray adder
if you dont know shit stop arguing and install plater
severe sparrow
yesss
limber lion
I don't know shit, I literally can't kick. adapting plater will be serious work.
Time to get used to it then
wispy marsh
I don't know shit, I literally can't kick. adapting plater will be serious work.
Better now than never
arctic socket
That’s hard
fickle lotus
me when i actually have to put in effort to get better 
severe sparrow
if you want to get better at a game it's gonna take time. do the lil step of putting on plater, the ability to read it and do things like kick with come in time
but plater will make it easier to learn how to kick
severe sparrow
vs raw dogging blizz ui
coral ibex
just reroll enhance
wispy marsh
That profile you imported, pick a purple mob, those guys cast, and then just press kick. gg we're improving
big edit: kick when they cast
crimson zephyr
me when i actually have to put in effort to get better <:MadgeNow:90845707451669...
I just don't have so much time and this would takes a lot of time and so far I never had big issues with default UI. So excuse me for thinking why basically go bac kand play +2 keys or whatever just to learn an addon
vernal snow
I can't kick and play +13 keys no worries. If they focus u, just vanish and let them snipe ur teammates
limber lion
crimson zephyr
That profile you imported, pick a purple mob, those guys cast, and then just pre...
I can do that without plater by just knowing the mobs
limber lion
This says everything
severe sparrow
oh god
fickle lotus
I just don't have so much time and this would takes a lot of time and so far I n...
just go hit cleave training dummy??
pine cave
!wa
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Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
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severe sparrow
is the right one actual base ui?
arctic socket
I play like the second pic and I do fine
coral ibex
ok what are you even trying to accomplish, bc right now you’re just complaining about having to adjust
crimson zephyr
This says everything
right one is way sexier from teh design of the nameplate itself.
severe sparrow
i havent ever turned blizzards nameplates on actually
limber lion
is the right one actual base ui?
Yes
limber lion
right one is way sexier from teh design of the nameplate itself.
THEN USE THAT DESIGN
severe sparrow
that's heinous
coral ibex
sexy nameplates
limber lion
Idk
coral ibex
this is where we’re at
vernal snow
I love the right one
limber lion
You can use plater and use that exact design
wispy marsh
I can do that without plater by just knowing the mobs
I feel enough people have given you solid advice, at this point it's yours to run with. Be free my friend, and play the game you want to play. 
coral ibex
i wanna improve but i want sexy nameplates
limber lion
But seeing 17 debuffs on a single monster
coral ibex
uneven rover
Ceve sorry to bother you but the left one is this yours other the other one? I quit like it
limber lion
that's actually demonic
limber lion
Ceve sorry to bother you but the left one is this yours other the other one? I q...
Yes
!wa
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Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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LE's Rogue Collection
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crimson zephyr
I feel enough people have given you solid advice, at this point it's yours to ru...
yep true
limber lion
Like 2 ruptures and 2 garrotes
which one is the deathmark one
and why do you see it
uneven rover
Thank you very much
hollow stone
if you see 17 debuffs, you know that's your funnel target
limber lion
4 different poisons
hollow stone
calculated
severe sparrow
every single one of your 4 poisons showing is very important knowledge
limber lion
Yeah
severe sparrow
gotta know i got crippling poison out
gritty laurel
that's how you know they're turned on, duh
fickle lotus
default nameplates be like:
6 CONSOLES, 10 computers, BUNCH OF FUCKING WIRES, SOUNDPADS, SPEAKERS, ANTENA, SATELLITE, DOG, DOG CAM, CAT CAM, CAT TREE CAT THIS, and a bunch of dogshit dude, able to analyse NASAs landing speeds dude.
wispy marsh
every single one of your 4 poisons showing is very important knowledge
What if one hasn't applied yet???
stray adder
I have feelings for plater
severe sparrow
i gotta stop shitposting and get back to work
limber lion
Instead of searching
Unlucky the target I mutilated doesn't have rupture or poison
severe sparrow
arctic socket
Well no poison is like impossible
severe sparrow
What if one hasn't applied yet???
you have to reapply it to your dagger every time it doesnt apply
arctic socket
Rupture mayb
severe sparrow
just to make sure
arctic socket
But that’s what your weakaura is for
gritty laurel
can plater put subway surfer in the corner of the screen so i don't get bored while my raid lead explains our strat?
limber lion
No it's not
wispy marsh
you have to reapply it to your dagger every time it doesnt apply
Ahhh, I appreciate the advice. I'll make sure to take it into my next keys 
limber lion
can plater put subway surfer in the corner of the screen so i don't get bored wh...
Just open up payphone on youtube and mute the discord
severe sparrow
can plater put subway surfer in the corner of the screen so i don't get bored wh...
sorry it can only support rumble atm
arctic socket
I have the bejeweled game toy I play with during Strat explanation
gritty laurel
ooh good idea
wispy marsh
I have the bejeweled game toy I play with during Strat explanation
Actually genius
ornate harbor
You get it everytime you apply a mark
When do i apply a mark?
vernal snow
Guys, for high keys whats the best talent choice overall? Subterfuge + Lethality without MA, Lethality + Supercharger 1/2 or Subterfuge with MA? I dont have time to test it all out, I just wanna cook
limber lion
Subt + WAT + MA + SD
stray adder
I have a playlist of Whispyr yap videos that I watch during raid
limber lion
TTK/Dashing instead of SBS if you want
vernal snow
cheers mate
limber lion
np
patent heart
Supercharger doesn't feel good. Sub feels way better
stray adder
you get a proc every time you consume DN
stark scroll
hi have you updated the wowhead yet
crimson zephyr
can I do follower dungeon for e.g. grim batol?
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ornate harbor
Ok ill try dno it seems bit tricky to track
ornate harbor
But i need to do it more often then every death mark lol
winter gale
Guys, whats the command for shiv/tea macro? 😄
drowsy hatch
!tea
prisma monolithBOT
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
uneven plume
can mandate one shot shield in SV with 6 orbs?
slate crown
So, any wa to track CtW so i can press fok when it comes or something
#assassination message ^ The LE Collection link has a standalone CtW wago
slate crown
Ok ill try dno it seems bit tricky to track
It's just a buff on your character, nothing special to simply looking for the buff.
The added complexity is not using it if you have Vicious Venoms talented, or if you play sub too, incorporating those rules. The standalone aura accounts for those above.
vernal snow
@limber lion I sent u a private message
limber lion
don't
uneven plume
fatebound currently simming higher in patchwork than DS?
past bobcat
fatebound currently simming higher in patchwork than DS?
Yeah. I've been playing it on queen prog it kinda slaps
uneven plume
do we still need to swap to more crit?
or can we play high mastery like we do in DS?
past bobcat
Stats don't matter tbh
drowsy hatch
It shouldn't be a big difference
past bobcat
Just sim and see
drowsy hatch
That optimization was fairly negligible in the first place
crimson zephyr
okay so playing around with all the settings. don't lynch me, it's a serious question: Is there anything speaking against very thin health bars?
stray adder
jesus christ
prime hull
okay so playing around with all the settings. don't lynch me, it's a serious que...
Might be harder to click them.
I often click on mobs to focus a prio target or do a more accurate mouseover kick.
wispy marsh
okay so playing around with all the settings. don't lynch me, it's a serious que...
It's all preference, whatever works for you and what you enjoy most.
stray adder
it's probably too thin
pliant silo
Most nameplate addons have good customization for clickbox size separately from visual width or height
There is an invisible clickbox buffer around nameplates, even thick ones
ebon geyser
Do we play twist the knife in M plus?
stray adder
you can yeah
stray adder
8 is not enough for skardyn
uneven plume
got mine on my 3rd then got mythic in vault a day later
stray adder
honestly I don't mind spamming GB it's just the valiona fight
so annoying when your pug tank doesn't know the cheese
uneven plume
doesnt that boss die in like 30 seconds on an 8?
crimson zephyr
ok thank you
stray adder
doesnt that boss die in like 30 seconds on an 8?
depends if it's tyra and if your healer is able to clear the affix before it heals boss to full 
you have all sorts of players in a 8
spice spire
Fuck that’s real
vernal snow
@limber lion so smth like this?
stray adder
no IW is crazy
drowsy hatch
no iw 🤢
spice spire
I’ve ran 2 rat 9 mists this week with pugs and one had a Ret pal 500k below me and the second had a hunter 400k and the Ret pal 700k below me
Idk
spice spire
<@165215952479322112> so smth like this?
whatcha running bud
vernal snow
Well I asked him and thats what he said 😄 Also when I check Speed or Casual recently timed keys all of them were without Iron Wire so idk. Thats why I asked 😄
spice spire
Casual and speed also have coordinated groups they run with
Idk if this one is a recommender in general
vernal snow
True, I play 13/14s
spice spire
Fine key level
stray adder
at the end of the day you can play whatever you want but no IW is crazy to me
spice spire
But idk if you’re pugging or what
And randomly seeing that is always a sketcher to me
vernal snow
I mean its crazy for me too tbh 😄 Idk how that will work out
stray adder
no IW is great when you hate people you play with
vernal snow
😄 😄
wispy marsh
I'm taking a nap because my wife wants to go out tonight, wish me luck. gg boys and girls
vernal snow
So what would u recommend instead?
spice spire
Gn king
uneven plume
remove doomblade and sbs
vernal snow
No Master Asssassin?
uneven plume
talent into iron wire and TTK
spice spire
how come were back to double vanish
There’s 15 builds that are valid
Pick the flavor you like best
uneven plume
double vanish sims higher for me than 1/2 lethality
and double vanish great for 15s
spice spire
double vanish sims higher for me than 1/2 lethality
In dungeon slice?
spice spire
An extra 2m cd in a 6m sim does sim well
stray adder
honestly WaT or 1/2 lethality is whatever, pick what feels the best to you
uneven plume
its situational
not playing double vanish in high SV is troll esp in pugs imo
esp during skarm hallway
spice spire
That value isn’t necessarily dam.
It’s not something i’d sweeping recommend. But if someone knows their build, and knows what they need. 
Likely random new player number 13 asking the best built shouldn’t be recommended it
uneven plume
you dont need double vanish in mists unless you dont know how to juggle mark
uneven plume
esp for first boss
vernal snow
@uneven plume Just to be clear by SBS u mean Sanguine Blades, right?
uneven plume
no bone spike
stray adder
bone spike
vernal snow
oh okay, ye all those english shorts are sometimes confusing for me srry because no sanguine blades sounded crazy for me xD
uneven plume
removing sudden demise is crazier to me
but its recommended (dont ever untalent this btw in M+)
vernal snow
Like this then?
ionic fox
So Ovi egg trinket is not showing reckless or deliberate incubation on logs... is it bugged?
vernal snow
And swap WaT for Lethality 1/2 situational?
uneven plume
yah that looks good.
yah certain dungeons you dont need to emergency silence
certain routes I mean
vernal snow
okay, thx mate
uneven plume
np
vernal snow
will try that out
stray adder
that's a good no sbs tree
silk sundial
No serrated bones? How does that feel playing?
stray adder
it's better ins higher keys
vernal snow
I mean I always wondered how good sbs is anyway compared to taking the other talents...I just checked and last boralus +13 i did yday SBS did 52 million overall and 1,8%
atomic finch
Heya guys , Im quite new to rogue what is the prefered talent build on M+ higher keys couse im trying to push... is the wowhead one enough? or what should i swap out and when? Also probably the most nub question which dagger potions do we use
stray adder
I mean I always wondered how good sbs is anyway compared to taking the other tal...
sbs is a faster setup
atomic finch
pushing M+ higher keys + which dagger poisons question is wild
i rolled from a healer to rogue T_T
i cant find it written
winged quail
with subterfuge extending IC I don't feel like SBS is necessary anymore, the extra global it saves isn't as important
drowsy hatch
it's all in wowhead
jolly summit
so outside of stealth abilities what else should be on my stealth bar?
drowsy hatch
jolly summit
or if someone has an example of their assassination stealth bar
silk sundial
So 10s and 11s, stay with Serrated? Stuff dies so fast i cam barely get setup before stuff dies
stray adder
@atomic finch you run Deadly / Amp / Crippling / (numbing or atrophic)
coral ibex
another fotm sick
slate scarab
i rolled from a healer to rogue T_T
Welcome and hope you have fun with it. People might be laughing because assassination has historically been weak in M+ (and frustrating with tab targeting required), so to see people actively swap to it to push is a new thing.
With that said, Wowhead is the most up to date info, the person who runs this discord channel keeps it updated (Whyspr). I use that build exactly and it works good for me.
GL
coral ibex
reroll enhance they don’t have to apply poisons
atomic finch
Welcome and hope you have fun with it. People might be laughing because assassi...
thank you very much couse i am looking into the talents and trying to understand it couse if you go numbing and Atrophic for example why does wowhead talent into this for example
coral ibex
did you read the capstones you allocated
you can apply 2 lethal 2 nonlethal
amp is lethal
coral shard
Hey my friend did a patchwerk 5, 5 targets sim, and the timeline shows to use shiv before Kingsbane? That doesnt seem correct does it?
slate scarab
You get to use 4 poisons when you pick the Dragon Tempered Blades, 2 lethal and 2 non lethal.
atomic finch
😮 wouw so its way difrent then outlaw =/
slate scarab
Oh yeah, very different
coral ibex
yea it’s a different spec
atomic finch
they use only 2 thats why im confused
runic hinge
I would never play outlaw. Wack af. Imagine only having instant poison
twin bay
Hey my friend did a patchwerk 5, 5 targets sim, and the timeline shows to use sh...
it is correct to do so. both your shivs will last the entire kingsbane
slate scarab
You will find a lot of the Sin talents around bleed and poison damage. Big shift from outlaw.
runic hinge
Disgusting tbh
coral shard
it is correct to do so. both your shivs will last the entire kingsbane
No he is running single shiv
twin bay
oh mb
atomic finch
No he is running single shiv
thats why im asking if the wowhead one is the one to go with
twin bay
its the last 8sec of kb usually but idk if something changed
coral shard
exactly
slate scarab
thats why im asking if the wowhead one is the one to go with
He is replying to a different question. That's the raid spec. Very different than M+ (also on Wowhead, but under Raid tab). Stick with the M+ for dungeons. You really really need Indiscriminate Carnage to enjoy a M+ imo.
quasi stump
hi sin rogues
twin bay
heya
modest nexus
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pcJ7oarQR7M662gMs2u6Vh
Why should i use FoK in ST fights? o0
uneven plume
Clear the witness proc
twin bay
read your hero talents
normal mist
modest nexus
ah make sense, ty 🙂
atomic finch
He is replying to a different question. That's the raid spec. Very different t...
oke awesome good to know i tought it still was on my topic ty for clarifieng. really much apriciated
clever sapphire
I mean I always wondered how good sbs is anyway compared to taking the other tal...
also remember, bonespike is faster setup, and its 2 more lethal dose stacks with bonespike and doomblade, which is just overall more dmg
coral ibex
wym
drowsy hatch
you just yell at healers
quasi stump
i never like using FOK in st it feels wrong
drowsy hatch
no need to actually tank
coral ibex
ignore pain
subtle tundra
its the magic damaje
dry dagger
Is it worth tracking the stacks of Deathstalker's Mark on your target in addition to the buff on yourself?
dry dagger
I just wait for DN
What about in aoe situations?
clever sapphire
Is it worth tracking the stacks of Deathstalker's Mark on your target in additio...
i like doing that in case i swap target and cant find my marked target
drowsy hatch
Just keeping track of what's marked
dry dagger
i like doing that in case i swap target and cant find my marked target
Yeah that's what I'm thinking too
coral ibex
choosing to refresh rupture for your last mark instead of having it potentially fall off during DN 7cp gen/finisher
i find it encounter this situation frequently
maybe it’s a skill issue
loud nest
I pay attention to stacks so I can kinda prep my spenders a little, like sending rupture at 1 stack so I can make sure it doesn't fall while building to 7cp for DN
twin bay
of you wanna track it. even if its just to not lose it when swapping targets
clever sapphire
you guys are doing math in your head? i just send whatever i wanna send at that point
not thinking 2 steps ahead
drowsy hatch
Yeah I mean I track it, I just don't worry about the actual count
loud nest
Only thing I carea bout is trying to not lose rupture uptime while making sure to send envenom at 7cp to get DN
losing rupture is fucking unfun so
twin bay
council is a perfect example why its good to track your mark stacks so you can make sure to put it on the correct boss while the other does his thing
loud nest
Ansurek is important too
If you dont catch DN before intermission ends
your mark is fucking gone
coral ibex
yea that blows
loud nest
and you have to vanish to get a new one instead of last 6s of DM
wet vapor
I will pay you money to get this covered up
crimson zephyr
what makes assa fotm?
twin bay
install details and look what most classes do
coral ibex
it cranks aoe dam
cedar hatch
!tricks
prisma monolithBOT
Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0
Sin just blasts man. You can not be in CD's and just beat people who are
coral ibex
and does big boss dam in raids
split veldt
these MDI boys going subterfuge and empowering crystal
loud nest
Caustic spatter is fucking hilarious
crimson zephyr
it cranks aoe dam
are you much higher than other in damage in m+?
loud nest
Subterfuge probbaly for iron wire value?
coral ibex
i only get beaten in overall by people with much more ilvl
drowsy hatch
subterfuge just interacts with a lot of things well now
loud nest
and spreading more bleeds on big pulls?
drowsy hatch
MA damage, IW value, more imp gars
loud nest
master assasing value too
coral ibex
these MDI boys going subterfuge and empowering crystal
iron wire stonks
loud nest
Saw casualaddict and gave it a try, feels really good imo
coral ibex
how else are you doing pulls with so many casters
twin bay
its either iron wire or prot pala
crimson zephyr
should I be able to out dps most classes in m+ of same ilvl?
coral ibex
yes
loud nest
Yeah
coral ibex
by like a lot tbh
drowsy hatch
the only other class that should give you significnat competition is enh
twin bay
only enhancer/dk/boomie(?) should be able to pull ahead of you
drowsy hatch
and a bit of fdk
loud nest
if its NW, frost dk fucking ascends
drowsy hatch
boomie depends on fat pulls but that's possible
loud nest
boomie too
crimson zephyr
ok I'm truly terrible then
torpid lion
a good surv hunter can also pump
drowsy hatch
only thing to note in low keys that some more bursty classes can just beat you by nature of shorter pulls
torpid lion
surv is the closest any class have been to beating me in keys damage
reef island
Im having some trouble with single target sitting at like 700k dps after 1.5m burst, any tips?? (622 rogue)
drowsy hatch
like gl beating a ret pally in a +5
drowsy hatch
Im having some trouble with single target sitting at like 700k dps after 1.5m bu...
m+ st assa damage is just ass
twin bay
yeah thats impossible
loud nest
Im having some trouble with single target sitting at like 700k dps after 1.5m bu...
got a log?
or M+?
drowsy hatch
I'm assuming M+ since 700k in raid st should be impossible
loud nest
If you're playing the stock standard M+ build w/ Carnage and SD, your ST is kinda just not ever gonna be insane
drowsy hatch
but that's like, not that far off of what's expected in m+
cobalt sphinx
st in keys sux
loud nest
yur
reef island
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/stormrage/Ñeedhealing those are my 2 mythic parses, somehow my heroic dmg is higher 😦
loud nest
There's a cleave build I play in GB that feels really g ood but its highly specific
reef island
I think ive figured it out with letting my envenom buff fall. but that cant be all right?
loud nest
W/ twist the knife you shouldn't drop envenom much
twin bay
envenom buff uptime is the bread and butter of the specc
silk sundial
How much dps do you avg on a 10 key? I feel like a lot of packs still die pretty fast. I dunno if I'm just underperforming or if it's the key level
cobalt sphinx
1.6-2 depending on the key at 633
cursive mortar
Playing supercharger now or Cold Blood?
silk sundial
Like I rarely get off a full kingsbane before anything dies
drowsy hatch
Playing supercharger now or Cold Blood?
cold blood if youre fatebound, supercharger / forced induction in raid build otherwise
reef island
How much dps do you avg on a 10 key? I feel like a lot of packs still die pretty...
Overall 2.0B dmg overall with 1.4/1.5mill dps overall
crimson zephyr
In 10s I'll do 1.3 to 1.5
is that overall dmg?
silk sundial
OK, I usually get 1.2-1.4 at 620ish
fresh kelp
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/stormrage/Ñeedhealing those are my 2 m...
for one, you only cast kingsbane with deathmark, missing the cast you can fit in between each dm
patent heart
is that overall dmg?
Ye overall
crimson zephyr
OK, I usually get 1.2-1.4 at 620ish
I thought that's terrible?
drowsy hatch
At 620? 1.2-1.4 is fine
cursive mortar
Fatebound better than Deathstalker right now? I haven't played fate
drowsy hatch
Fatebound better than Deathstalker right now? I haven't played fate
In pure ST fatebound is slightly better. Otherwise DS
patent heart
In lower keys like that I don't think u can do more than like 1.5 mil
dry dagger
!wa
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patent heart
Everything dies too quick
silk sundial
I just play with ret pallies that get like 1.5+
crimson zephyr
At 620? 1.2-1.4 is fine
but that's for a 10 right?
reef island
for one, you only cast kingsbane with deathmark, missing the cast you can fit in...
Hmm ive been casting it when its off CD generally. not sure haha.
deep gyro
In pure ST fatebound is slightly better. Otherwise DS
Is it higher due to rng or innately higher?
twin bay
10 is super low for a group full of 630s
drowsy hatch
but that's for a 10 right?
Sure that's fine
cursive mortar
Was looking at icy and wowhead and the mythic builds are a little different guess it just depends on play style?
reef island
I just play with ret pallies that get like 1.5+
Ret is sucking BUSTED. dont ever compare yourself to them lmao
drowsy hatch
Is it higher due to rng or innately higher?
I believe the numbers just work out a little better. Not sure the exact reasons though, sorry
Generally I see fatebound is like 1%ish higher
patent heart
Low key level assa is just gaped
drowsy hatch
assa is just a little variable on group too
twin bay
overall dmg isnt the only thing thats speeds up keys
deep gyro
Assa sucks we need buffs
drowsy hatch
go with enh and fdk exploding every pack then yeah youll just get blasted
silk sundial
Played a 9 with a 630 BM getting PI the whole time, they finished with almost 1.8. Dps. I felt like I couldn't do anything
magic fossil
zekvir talents anyone
dry dagger
zekvir talents anyone
Go outlaw
clever sapphire
Was looking at icy and wowhead and the mythic builds are a little different gues...
there are like 10 m+ builds currently that you can go, its really just preference
twin bay
Played a 9 with a 630 BM getting PI the whole time, they finished with almost 1....
the exact same hunter will feel the exact same way you did when he is playing with a 630 enhancer 😄
loud nest
@reef island Your opener is a bit long, you can shorten it up a lot and get into DM earlier and setup your 2nd KB earlier. You wanna send that like no later than 1:10, additionally losing rupture and garrot on boss (idc about rupture on adds because). Bleeds = energy and energy == envenom uptime.
drowsy hatch
plus a bm hunter might be training down your spatter target
and screwing you over a little
crimson zephyr
are there staiswtics like overall dmg distribution given ilvl and key number?
rain wraith
for some reason blizz decided to give my Monk the vault items i was suppose to get on my rogue
limber lion
are there staiswtics like overall dmg distribution given ilvl and key number?
No as it varies a lot depending on route, group, how tank pulls, how your team uses their cds, what is the ilvl of the other people in your group, how fast you are, how you use lust, how big the pulls are that you do and so on
Too many variables to track anything of that sort.
minor berry
Hi all ❤️ question, which is better to upgrade. Offhand to 636 (crafted) or boots to 636? Stat wise the boots have about twice more stats but not sure how much more dps it is
limber lion
Boots
crimson zephyr
Too many variables to track anything of that sort.
ok I see thanks
limber lion
Offhand last
loud nest
Oh is pepehands
crisp steppe
wcl shows this on someones log. wassup with that?
reef island
<@195651983422652417> Your opener is a bit long, you can shorten it up a lot and...
How would someone shorten up the opener?
crisp steppe
1 point supercharge
drowsy hatch
wcl shows this on someones log. wassup with that?
its just bugged from old talents
crisp steppe
aight
drowsy hatch
gotta just look at post patch
crisp steppe
so is it spending 1 point too little?
drowsy hatch
you cant take it without spending 2
spice spire
Offhand last
Call me offhand
drowsy hatch
so it has an extra
crimson zephyr
Too many variables to track anything of that sort.
but are there logs liek warcraft logs so you can check it for youself?
drowsy hatch
comparing m+ dmg is an exercise in self torture
limber lion
but are there logs liek warcraft logs so you can check it for youself?
Yes, you can log your runs to warcraftlogs just like in raids
But details numbers and log numbers are completely different
crimson zephyr
not for comparison just to look at for myself
limber lion
And comparing dps is just not a good idea
Yeah you can do that
Just as you would log a raid
sturdy mesa
for some reason blizz decided to give my Monk the vault items i was suppose to g...
Silly you're not supposed to use swords as assa rogue
loud nest
@reef island
sturdy mesa
Oh nvm didn't see u meant the trinkets 😭
silk sundial
I just look at the overall dps at the end of the key myself. As long as I'm not doing tank dmg I'm good lol
limber lion
I'm 615 and I bounce between 1.5-2m dps in my piss +8 keys
With a proper group that can pull more than one pack at a time, you should probably be doing much more
shadow jungle
how slow is assa compared to outlaw playstyle?
drowsy hatch
slug
shadow jungle
slug?
maiden zodiac
walking vs running
cursive mortar
Sanguine blades or iron wire?
drowsy hatch
if you enjoy your life basically always iw
limber lion
If you know what you're doing, you can play Sang somewhere
silk sundial
I imagine a dungeon with tons of casters like SV or GB you'd want iron wire. Dungeon with less casters you could probably play SB easier?
drowsy hatch
That's pretty much the logic yeah
I just have the rule that if you need to ask
You probably shouldnt do it
(for IW specifically)
zinc willow
!wa
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shadow jungle
a little slimy slug
is it fun tho?
drowsy hatch
I wouldn't be playing it if I found it boring = )
maiden zodiac
apm doesnt = fun
loud dome
does subterfuge extend MA to 9 seconds?
loud brook
MA Or SB?
loud dome
master assasin
inner scroll
!tea
prisma monolithBOT
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
1 subt takes it to 9, 2 to 12
crimson zephyr
can someone post their dmg breakdown fomr details from m+? please 🙂
spice spire
can someone post their dmg breakdown fomr details from m+? please 🙂
Caustic > CT/envenom> bleeds etc
loud dome
does that mean i vanish at 11 seconds in KB
arctic socket
Idk caustic seems like a bottom
coral ibex
nah wym caustic be spraying all over
pliant remnant
HOOOOLY
coral ibex
very dominant
spice spire
Bro are you good
pliant remnant
I AM
spice spire
You glazing me or
pliant remnant
B R I C K E D
atomic finch
Does anyone know how or where to get this plater profile
spice spire
Batman couldn’t get that one outta me Peter
arctic socket
B R I C K E D
Lmao dawg?
pliant remnant
spice spire
Lmao dawg?
minor berry
hot
slate crown
you can't keep getting away with this
spice spire
you can't keep getting away with this
Mf got me twice today ain’t no way
spice spire
WHAT
spice spire
HUH
spice spire
What are you supporting
novel moss
The feint nerf got me angry tbh t.t
balmy condor
You
balmy condor
The feint nerf got me angry tbh t.t
There is no feint nerf
wispy apex
the tea/shiv macro stops working sometimes. Is there a way to solve this?
hollow warren
Finally got Grim trinket after 68 runs
novel moss
Oh its just datamined
Ive grown to trusting of wowhead
😛
Well hope its doesnt happen
balmy condor
Yah well data mining ain’t really wowhead either
It’s just database updates and the post is every change
That includes tooltip changes and all sorts of shit
People were screaming the sky is falling when 11.0.5 got datamined
Because of a HUGGGEEEEE Crimson tempest nerf
spice spire
People were screaming the sky is falling when 11.0.5 got datamined
Still am tbh
balmy condor
Of like 45%
spice spire
Nothing works
spice spire
Oh also speaking of bugs
balmy condor
And it got datamined and people saw spooky number in the data mining and lost their shit
balmy condor
I did
spice spire
I really wish they weren’t pushing deadlines to be so quick. That’s my sole negative thought on wow.
Outside of that
Game good
Just wish bugs fixed
novel star
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1023996025859473421/1061710865189048391...
🐐
cant believe my eyes
what a channel
crimson zephyr
1.3m overall, 623, +7 GB (++ times) - and I did a shit ton of mistakes (I had no darkest night in 2/3 bosses e.g.) but the distribution is fine overall like that?
cobalt sphinx
looks fine
novel moss
Looks like clear evidence they need to revert the caustic spatter nerf 
balmy condor
Looks like clear evidence they need to revert the caustic spatter nerf <:pepelaf...
Dude that’s with sudden demise as well 
warm vortex
Istg if my game break mid key ill be sad :(
spice spire
You good dog or
balmy condor
You good dog or
sturdy mesa
Speaking of GB, has anyone else here had the bug where the 2nd boss just refuses to spawn?
warm vortex
?
balmy condor
That’s me
novel star
You good dog or
why u hatin bro
novel star
balmy condor
Uno reverse
novel star
balmy condor
You’re getting fished
spice spire
this is so fucked
You’re cooked young Oliver gg go next
balmy condor
thats nOT MY NAME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whatever you say Lars
novel star
mannnn
novel star
dont worry
void pecan
The Superior rogue players obviously
novel star
people wake up soon and say braindead shit in here
crimson zephyr
You good dog or
funny how you say dog and ha ve a dawg in your profile pic 🙂
balmy condor
Sub players are stupid poopy heads worrying about numbers and shit NOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO BE OPTIMAL
Meanwhile we’re just basedpilled buttonchads, we just press our shit and it does a bajillion damage and we move on
spice spire
funny how you say dog and ha ve a dawg in your profile pic 🙂
That’s just kinda me though.
And I love my dog so much so he’s my profile pic 🙂
spice spire
its not abt the length of the toe
So ur a girth person eh
crimson zephyr
Sub chat rn:
maybe I go over there sounds like fun
novel star
🫂
novel star
So ur a girth person eh
Ya
spice spire
Nice
balmy condor
That’s just kinda me though.
And I love my dog so much so he’s my profile pic 🙂
You love me so much but I’m not your pfp, curious!
novel star
gotta suckle on it like a ring pop
balmy condor
Praying on the impressionable youth
slate crown
spice spire
I always pray for the youth
novel star
man
spice spire
Id never prey on them tho.
That’s for creepy old men
gritty laurel
whispyr is a vulnerable young lady, just look at that avatar. for shame.
spice spire
whispyr is a vulnerable young lady, just look at that avatar. for shame.
Ass master but not rogue
balmy condor
If I clean shave you think i could pass for like 16
novel star
no
novel star
drowsy hatch
If I clean shave you think i could pass for like 16
you do not want this torment
spice spire
Yeah exactly
balmy condor
I’m tempted to try it but the gabster gonna gab me if I de-beard
novel star
the eyes themselves imo
you look too tired
a 16 year old has too much joy in their flesh still
balmy condor
True, the eyes hold the weight of a thousand m+ arguments
spice spire
I’m tempted to try it but the gabster gonna gab me if I de-beard
I almost shaved last night then decided nah
novel star
True, the eyes hold the weight of a thousand m+ arguments
Legit this
spice spire
Doesn’t exist
spice spire
It does it’s just very old
Nope doesn’t fit my head canon sorry
slate crown
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1292477218462634115/vl...
This is the only meme gif I've clipped that's actually taken hold, and it was your fault too
balmy condor
also sorry in advance I take awful selfies so no matter what I send it’s gonna be cringe
novel star
balmy condor
Okay how did you find that before me
kindred hinge
I just got dispelzoned. Blizz please give us poison dispel, it fit with lore 😦
spice spire
I think he just enjoys having wacky hair colors
novel star
Okay how did you find that before me
just went to ur twitch channel
idunno
i was looking for the marble one in the command
novel star
??????
gritty laurel
Blazzer can't possibly keep daydreaming about you until you revert to natural hair color. fix now
spice spire
Wat
novel star
so u gonna post face or
unique bolt
slate crown
okie dokie.
novel star
just talk shit to someone anonymously and then drop casual transphobia for no reason
?
pliant remnant
balmy condor
Hey @slate crown I also think my hair is nice and looks good idk what this mildly transphobic person is talking about but they’re making me uncomfortable and I don’t care for the opinions of others
Very cool!
pliant remnant
"you don't look like a normal human being who looks appealing"
novel star
i wasnt talking shit im just implying u look bad and unappealing and not "normal" 
pliant remnant
"not talking shit btw lol"
balmy condor
An unhinged assa wowhead writer
Thank you for accepting me queen, I will shotgun a monster in your name
spice spire
Thank you for accepting me queen, I will shotgun a monster in your name
Call me a monster?
drowsy hatch
Thank you for accepting me queen, I will shotgun a monster in your name
I like the pineapple monster zeros
novel star
pineapple monster goated
drowsy hatch
Golden flavor
loud dome
dungeon slice works for us? or we do 5-6 patchworks
drowsy hatch
Big fan of the green one too
spice spire
Can’t do pineapple anything without allegations
novel star
dungeon slice works for us? or we do 5-6 patchworks
dslice
novel star
Can’t do pineapple anything without allegations
huh
spice spire
dungeon slice works for us? or we do 5-6 patchworks
DS is more than fine
small knoll
is haste the only thing that gives us energy? im being energy starved towards the end of boss fights unless im doing something wrong
balmy condor
Posted this a billion times but this was the first time I dyed my hair, I took a gamble and went full blue the literal night before senior prom and it was the fattest W and I’ve dyed my hair since
drowsy hatch
!design
prisma monolithBOT
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
novel star
call this guy a slur
runic hinge
Posted this a billion times but this was the first time I dyed my hair, I took a...
So good looking tbh
ionic fox
Do logs just not show Deliberate and Reckless incubation buffs or bugged trinky?
balmy condor
call this guy a slur
Every day in the mirror bud but im gonna marry that woman one day and you won’t so how bout you mald and seethe
balmy condor
Do logs just not show Deliberate and Reckless incubation buffs or bugged trinky?
Logs don’t show it
spice spire
Every day in the mirror bud but im gonna marry that woman one day and you won’t ...
Bro 
Shut the fuck up
balmy condor
Shut the fuck up
See, marriage mentioned and you’re seething
That’s what I was expecting
spice spire
Too soon man damn
novel star
im not seething 
drowsy hatch
ive only got cope here
spice spire
Sunday it’ll actually be a year since the incident eh
subtle tundra
Sunday it’ll actually be a year since the incident eh
wwwwwwwwwwwwwoah
balmy condor
Sunday it’ll actually be a year since the incident eh
We should go out and get Baja blasted
runic hinge
Live mas
dark lake
Anyone recommend a coach?
spice spire
And you’ll be mega shit faced
runic hinge
Have two
spice spire
Anyone recommend a coach?
For what
balmy condor
Life
dark lake
That too
spice spire
One brain cell ass mfs
dark lake
But for rogue stuff
balmy condor
Life coach
Imagine being this slow
drowsy hatch
+1 word meta
balmy condor
Less word more info
balmy condor
Allow type faster
runic hinge
I’ve had to drink an extra beer to feel normal for each day I’ve been in Florida
runic hinge
Tomorrow I’m gonna have to drink 5 beers just to be a human
static glacier
whispyr my guildies keep referring to people as blue haired, are they talking about you?
balmy condor
Can’t be, it’s red
gritty laurel
tell the kitty we say "meow"
slate crown
u already got one today
balmy condor
Send cat picture
slate crown
spice spire
I said cat not kitten
balmy condor
oh my bad
winged widget
"hey", not "hiya" 5/10
balmy condor
quake doesn't respond to hiya
violet sluice
!tea
prisma monolithBOT
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
he's desensitized
arctic socket
quake doesn't respond to hiya
Can I get a hoooooooooyiiiiiiiia
spice spire
he's desensitized
Honestly I’ve become desensitized to a lot of things from you
Idk if that’s good or bad
novel star
Is this from right meow
balmy condor
ofc
spice spire
Would btw
novel star
hair looks a lot less washed out than it does on stream
spice spire
well I just rolled out of bed
Sorry for keeping you up late pookie mb
hollow warren
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/v7KRqVQeQBKbYm6La5Rk23 Why does it tell me to get more haste? I am really confused
balmy condor
also when you dye, stand under a heat lamp or something
spice spire
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/v7KRqVQeQBKbYm6La5Rk23 Why does it tell m...
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
hollow warren
it says I should re enchant to haste
spice spire
We like all stats
balmy condor
haste is a good stat
slate crown
it says I should re enchant to haste
then re enchant to haste
Or don't look at how close those are, it doesn't matter, do or don't
it's w/e
balmy condor
you got 3 crafted pieces with crit/mast, you got a crit/mast neck, crit/mast cloak, mast on use trinket
so we can rule out mastery, you got a ton of that