assassination

[peak lake]

Well it's official, after 7 bloodbound horror and 3 kyveza kills, 0 daggers drop and were gonna extend for ansurek kill 😦

[subtle tundra]

that really unfortunate

im so sorry

😦

[peak lake]

BUT I HAVE THE RING HAHAHAHA

[subtle tundra]

what ring

[peak lake]

THE ring

[subtle tundra]

ah

ok

i dont

[subtle tundra]

ok

[ashen scroll]

Ok Gollum

[peak lake]

the funny thing is : i dont have 639 dagger, but i have outlaw weap 😄

[tight sparrow]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[grim glen]

do i care at all about the spyglass trinkets in keys? I just equip it and hit things and it is fine, or?

[sacred schooner]

if you switch target buff will drop

[runic basin]

Did they know that MA is bugged?

[west crown]

MA bug?

[subtle tundra]

games bugged gg

[olive lagoon]

!sim

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[olive lagoon]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[runic basin]

When you go out of stealth and enter it the buff still ticks down

[west crown]

Like the timer doesn’t reset reentering stealth?

[deep gyro]

Once u leave stealth again does it reset?

[hollow warren]

Nah it doesn't, its buggy for me too

U need to wait until the MA buff ended to regain it again via stealth

Same with vanish and so on

[runic basin]

Yes its stupid

[west crown]

It’s not really a big that matters I guess

[solid lily]

It is something similar to Mage hub website but for rogues?

[west crown]

There isn’t a situation where it should happen

[hollow warren]

U need to press vanish after it fell off during opener and that feels kinda weird

[deep gyro]

If u are running subterfuge and open on a pack and cds into it with vanish ma i can see it happening

[hollow warren]

Exactly that

So u need to keep track of the buff and then delay vanish until it fell off

[subtle tundra]

well you have to wait regardless if its bugged or not

[deep gyro]

But that is like the one situation we can prob around it knowing its bugged

[hollow warren]

Kinda feels clunky

[west crown]

Yeah I mean that’s just bad use of vanish in m+ but sure

[subtle tundra]

to maximeze the MA uptime

[subtle tundra]

thats how you vanish, for kb crit

[hollow warren]

But also during opener in single target

U need to delay vanish

Since it doesnt stack the buff

[west crown]

Ok a little awkward to delay 1 second on bosses

But you shouldn’t be doing that on pack openers

[hollow warren]

For me I usually need to wait like 3-4 secs and then vanish cuz its still running

[rotund oak]

u can also vanish to pandemic them bleeds fam

[subtle tundra]

ofc you can

[rotund oak]

big keys,fat pulls

[subtle tundra]

who said you cant

[rotund oak]

none

[subtle tundra]

but is it better than more burst aoe?

[rotund oak]

im just at work completely detached

[subtle tundra]

depends on pulls

[rotund oak]

well ye depends

[subtle tundra]

first pull necrotic wake?

you vanish for the MA

shit out dps

[rotund oak]

mists before last boss

stuff like taht ye

[west crown]

The double and triple packs yeah for sure

[rotund oak]

yup,thats the vanish juice

pretty obvious

[subtle tundra]

also if you always vanish with deathmark it means you never hold vanish

what if you hold vanish to put more bleeds up and pack is dead too fast

so you didnt use vanish at all

[hollow warren]

But u also in that pulls need to wait until your MA from stealth runs out to vanish again

[subtle tundra]

losing casts

[west crown]

But that’s just bad for m+

[hollow warren]

Feels kinda weird to me

[small viper]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[west crown]

Vanishing for DM in packs and then my tanks goes and chain pulls

[subtle tundra]

womp womp

yes man

and if your tank didnt chain

and you hold vanish for too long

and waste it

thats m+

[grim glen]

whats the go to trinket besides skardyns? sacbrood, egg, empowering crystal?

[wispy marsh]

@balmy condor I'm trying your Afenar WA edit vs the og and I gotta say, nice work. Lot of really good stuff here! Thanks for all the work!

[west crown]

More damage to use it not for DM outside of bosses on avg but sure

[subtle tundra]

sure bud

[west crown]

What is my English

[subtle tundra]

you do you

[west crown]

Holy

[hardy crypt]

you need one on use and one passive, ideally

[grim glen]

yes. I have skardyns and am trying to decide what to farm

[wispy marsh]

Sim them, crystal sims highest for me but I know others who egg does, same with spyglass

[hardy crypt]

so skardyns/transmitter + sacbrood/spyglass/empowering crystal

but yeah, sim

[wispy marsh]

I'd also add the shadowbinding knife, seems to be pretty well loved also

[wispy marsh]

I still gotta go get that just to see

[hardy crypt]

its from delves right?

[hollow warren]

Yep

It feels okay other trinkets still sim higher for me

Got it on Hero track

[karmic crystal]

Ovi nax egg too

[rotund oak]

hero track knife is pretty good

[grim jay]

Disgusting

[grim jay]

On mythic probably, but they shouldnt sim higher if all of them are hero track

[merry bison]

Why do we wait to envenom when garrote, rupture or caustic are running out?

[hollow warren]

For me it does haha, my cystal + skardyn combo sims higher than knife

Even hero track

[grim jay]

Wdym? You dont. Only DN envenom is more important

But there is also pandemic, so shouldnt really be tight either way

[grim jay]

Thats wild.

[winged sun]

Darkest night more important than refreshing dots?

[grim jay]

On ST if you had to choose

For whatever unprobable reason

[winged sun]

And aoe? Lets say spatter is up for long

Still darkest night? Since rupture does nothing i guess?

[merry bison]

We force 7cp envenom when DN is up but still I see some sort of pooling that is not relating to lining up cds, could it be stacking up Vile Tincture to 10 and then envenom?

[tacit otter]

Dn loses big importance in aoe. If you still have 5/5 ruptures then go dn. Otherwise I'd rupture

[grim jay]

On aoe mark is way less important, like you dont put DN to use in the opener until you got everything else going, which goes to show

[sinful scroll]

question: if you had 3cp and rupture is in pandemic, do you send, or do you get 5cp + first?

[hardy crypt]

pandemic is pretty long

[grim jay]

Wdym some sort of pooling?

You only delay envenom on ST to chain the buff

Unless you have DN up

[hardy crypt]

its better to send a 7point rupture on like 3s remaining than a 3 point rupture on 6s remaining

[blazing pumice]

i think you'd wait for the 5cp

[sinful scroll]

say 3 seconds then

[hardy crypt]

you shouldn't put yourself in that position

[rotund oak]

5cp+ always,no reason to refresh on less

[hardy crypt]

you can fit like 3 finishers in the 11s pandemic

[grim jay]

You only finish on 5+

Unless DN

No matter what

[tacit otter]

If you have 3 seconds on rupture, why not use 1 second to build couple more cp to use 5+ rupture?

[hardy crypt]

if one of them isn't a full rupture you're doing something wrong, I think

[sinful scroll]

I've learned something new today

[merry bison]

You mean the envenom buff or which one?

[blazing pumice]

what does the effect of sanguine strategem have on finishers when used on 5+?

[grim jay]

Yes

[blazing pumice]

it's not clear from the tooltip

[grim jay]

It is

[merry bison]

Now that makes sense

[grim jay]

You gain the increase at any point

[merry bison]

thank you mister davyn

[blazing pumice]

it just says "have increased effects"

what does that mean

[hardy crypt]

hover over rupture for example

it says what it does on 5cp and 7cp

[blazing pumice]

it is going up linearly on the tooltip

[hardy crypt]

for assa it's increased duration for most stuff or more damage + duration on envenom

[blazing pumice]

is it more damage on rupture or longer duration

[hardy crypt]

its same damage/second

but it applies it for longer

[balmy prism]

why does every dh tank have adhd and is unable to stand still with frontals

[hardy crypt]

so it's better to use a 7point rupture than a 5 point one

you're using like 30 energy to put a bleed up for more seconds

its more energy efficient

[blazing pumice]

it looks like it adds 3s to a 7cp rupture

[normal mist]

Actually

[blazing pumice]

so 10% increase in duration?

[normal mist]

You're wasting a global if you're forcing from 5 to 7

That's not worth

[hardy crypt]

I mean yeah, you want to finish on 5+

but if it lands naturally on 7

[subtle tundra]

any opinions? for improvements

[normal mist]

Obviously it's better

[hardy crypt]

its much more ideal

that's what I meant

[royal lantern]

dont talent deathmark

[tacit otter]

Hope for adds on every boss

[normal mist]

Yeah 5 is good, 6 is gooder and 7 is perfect

[subtle tundra]

surely it cant be that bad

[hardy crypt]

dn envenom enters the room

jesus I hate it

[thorn crater]

does this work?

[subtle tundra]

if theres no adds on bosses i can go like this

[subtle tundra]

ill try it

[tacit otter]

What one small change can do to a man

[hardy crypt]

being 6cp and using a builder makes me die inside a little bit inside every time

[subtle tundra]

when i have time

[thorn crater]

this looks better in general htough even with adds no?

just spend 5 globals to spread a couple of ruptures

[subtle tundra]

we will see

i will

those pugs wont know what hit them

😊

[thorn crater]

trueeee

HAHAHAHAH

[subtle tundra]

this build wants to use ic to bleed a lot

instead of as much spatter spam

maybe sanguine instead of MA

ill see

i cook...

i cock

[hollow warren]

In aoe do we just rupture for sent of blood and then spread improved garrots cuz they are more dmg?

And then spatter spam?

Like in big pulls like NW first pull

[blazing pumice]

yes

[stuck leaf]

I'm looking for a Rogue Assa guide taking into account the latest patch with the talent overhaul. Do any of you have this on hand? I thank you in advance.

[normal mist]

!guides

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[dry dagger]

Wowhead should be up to date right?

[normal mist]

Yep

[oak tangle]

i don't mean offence by this, but how are people finding their way into the rogue discord without understanding what wowhead is

[normal mist]

No idea

[onyx rock]

A friend of mine also googled the Hunter Discord before knowing about wowhead 🤷‍♀️

[obtuse latch]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[subtle tundra]

this is really bad

[oak tangle]

whispyr should make the reactions to get the ability to speak in this channel be in a pin in this channel. 2 birds one stone

[subtle tundra]

no tea and no vigor is kinda bad for st ngl

whatever

atleast i have ironwire

[mild spoke]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[regal cloud]

Yo is this a waste to use a builder let say 5 to 7 or 6 to 7 to consume darkest night?

[balmy prism]

true group first gamer

[marble hemlock]

Brother I wake up and this is the first message I see

[subtle tundra]

? i hate the tea change

so well

here we are

[marble hemlock]

No I mean

That's the build I memed about

Few days ago

[subtle tundra]

i was missing...

[marble hemlock]

But I'd go FI instead of lethality

[oak tangle]

no

[subtle tundra]

well if you like FI then sure!

we play for feels

[regal cloud]

Also with a darkest night ready and let say ur rupture fall it's darkest prio right?

[royal lantern]

yes

but that should not Happen

[regal cloud]

Aight ty

[grim jay]

AP instead of DM

[unborn python]

Do we reapply garrote before Improved Garrote falls off ?

[subtle tundra]

youre so troll

im bleed build

[latent pike]

Is bleed build supposed to be better for fority?

Fortify*

[subtle tundra]

[latent pike]

I play the hybrid, and i cant seem to match the damage when i swap to bleed build

[subtle tundra]

[lean portal]

bleed is meme

[latent pike]

Regardless of fortify vs Tyran?

[distant plinth]

Its both tyra and forti at +10

Potato potato

[subtle tundra]

bleed is not meme

wtf

[ornate dawn]

Hybrid is just way better

[subtle tundra]

yall coping

it has its place

[lean portal]

ye

fort tyra not rly a thing you should play around IMO

[latent pike]

And the cleave build?

[subtle tundra]

thats the meme

[delicate trench]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[grim jay]

Id never troll you

[distant plinth]

Just play hybrid, hybrid meta and stonks and good feels

[oak tangle]

if you have to decide between what to play in fort vs tyran, what you play doesnt matter

[lean portal]

hybrid is better everywhere IMO

[latent pike]

Certainly feels that way to me

[subtle tundra]

actually bleed is better

[oak tangle]

better or worse, if you're doing the content it doesnt matter

[grim jay]

You are better

[royal lantern]

i bleed you

[lean portal]

below 10 you could pick your talents randomly and above fort and tyra both here so

[subtle tundra]

the instant triple reply

guys

[soft shale]

make it quad

[royal lantern]

im bored at break rn

[subtle tundra]

i want to go gym today!!!!!!!

i cant wait!!!!!!!!!

[grim jay]

Im waiting for my Kebab

[soft shale]

tomorrow is a holiday

[grim jay]

[soft shale]

so that means triple pay

[subtle tundra]

highlight of the weeeeekkkkk

no uni and go to gym

thursdays are goated

[distant plinth]

What build are you running @subtle tundra

[subtle tundra]

this is what ill be running for some keys

[latent pike]

How does Subterfuge change the rotation?

[distant plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/pinkun-mega-man-maker-discord-gif-23961045

[subtle tundra]

i dont know

it doesnt?

[distant plinth]

Doesnt really change anything, more uptime on master assasin= more crit

More crit more "bursty" dmg

[tiny imp]

Is there any "valid" video guide out there for assa rogue m+ exklusively?

[royal lantern]

check whispyr on YouTube

and then ping him here with questions

he loves that

[thorny harness]

https://youtu.be/N_if0HnJ1gE?si=O5GFPjrOIln2yOFz

[drowsy hatch]

make sure to specifically ping him about auto tea, restealths, and crafted gear

[grim jay]

And without a trace

Together with dropping IW

[drowsy hatch]

Throw in tricks of the trade if you're feeling it

[thorny harness]

u guys are crazy

[drowsy hatch]

he knows what he has sowed

[thorny harness]

now that u mentioned tricks of the trade

what happened to the podcast

[drowsy hatch]

think that's just deadge no?

[thorny harness]

has fun listening to it in the background while doing m+ and i noticed there hasnt been an ep in years no

probably deadge ... sad

[drifting cedar]

how to check envenom stacks in wow logs?

[vague verge]

Is there a case where crimson tempest doesn't apply?

[blazing pumice]

st

[subtle tundra]

yes when it gets parried

[coral ibex]

i thought ct was a bleed and bleeds can’t get parried

[arctic socket]

“Parry this you filthy casual”

[pastel onyx]

u can also ping him without watching a video or reading a guide, he likes it even better

[drowsy hatch]

Better to watch it, say you watched it, but don't mention any points in it

[royal lantern]

think again

[tacit otter]

'it's not in the video I've watched it'

When it's clearly in

[drowsy hatch]

yes gaslighting is important

[pastel onyx]

do u guys think he is painting his hair, because they are all grey by this point

from all this

[subtle tundra]

he literally has blue hair

[quasi stump]

Hi sin rogues

How are we doing

[arctic socket]

Waiting in a line at a chick fil a picking up breakfast

[royal lantern]

he does dye them yes

[drowsy hatch]

I thought his blue hair was natty

[royal lantern]

2 more hours work, and then going home and playing games that are not WoW

[arctic socket]

Blue hair natty?

If only

[quasi stump]

NOT PLAYING WOW

[normal mist]

You beta testing Wilds?

I wanted to

[royal lantern]

nah

finishing Metaphor

[grim jay]

Metaphor was a cool streamer

Really good aswell

How did you end up hooking up tho?

[quasi stump]

Dude

Metaphor is so fucking good

What day are you at

[royal lantern]

24days before the desicion who will be King

aka at the very end

[quasi stump]

|| I MISS FIDELIO ||

[warm vortex]

Tbh after trying some pug runs imma swap lethality out for WoT

[grim jay]

[nova aspen]

it sims higher

[warm vortex]

Oh cool!

[nova aspen]

so i did

[warm vortex]

I assume from the uptime of ma mainly

and improved gar

[nova aspen]

probably

[warm vortex]

I also went back to sbs and doomblade

started to miss the SBS

[nova aspen]

but i also save it for heavy caster packs

silences goated

[coral ibex]

WAT sims higher than 1/2 leth in dslice?

[nova aspen]

im always sure to keep a charge rolling tho ofc

yes vanish charge simed like 15k higher

than 1/2 lethal

for me

since the tuesday hotfix

[real granite]

consider that the sim will dump both vanish chargues for dps

and wat giving you an extra chargue, and dslice lasting for 6 mins

[warm vortex]

Also

[real granite]

will give an extra advantage to wat

[warm vortex]

now im playing with WAs

im shocked i did not paly w them before

helps so much with splatter uptiem

[coral ibex]

lol we all were tbh

[warm vortex]

Yea just did an 11 Ara

[coral ibex]

much easier to track stuff

[nova aspen]

playing wow without WAs???

[warm vortex]

Could be better but god that plce is a fucking

[nova aspen]

[warm vortex]

brain anyurism when it comes to getting stealth

At least for me

i find it harder to get stealth in ara than any other dungeon, just cause some mobs seem to put me in combat cause fuck me

[hollow compass]

!pool

[warm vortex]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[warm vortex]

there you go :)

[grim jay]

No issue at all

Tbh

[warm vortex]

Ah fair

must just be me then

[hollow compass]

tyty

[grim jay]

Only mists is kinda fucky

[warm vortex]

feel like those lil spiders at the start just put me in combat
same w the ones after 1st boss

[grim jay]

With the lab getting you out if you are close

[warm vortex]

Oh i find that one fine, as long as you wait in the maze for shit to spwan

[hollow compass]

Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts (why is that)?

[real granite]

i go bananas when the spiders are about to kamikaze, and some brainiac stuns them when tank is chaining

i just go argbgbgrlbr

[warm vortex]

back to this build

tho

[grim jay]

Its old

Was bcs of sanguine

[coral ibex]

less energy eaten by sanguine is more energy for envenom

[grim jay]

We dont really play that

[warm vortex]

The funniest thing happed last dungeon acc

[hollow compass]

okay ty

[warm vortex]

Druid put down a vortex i didnt see

explosionm ads nearly die, im in a safe spot
snaps back to vortex cause of the pull in and kills me instantly with the explosion

lmao

[coral ibex]

i save my blind for those fuckers

hate dealing with that cast

[warm vortex]

Yea, i just didn;'t see the vortex

so i didnt expect it to come flying back at me

Also rating is getting a bit better

[coral ibex]

yea there’s always something that sends them my way

[warm vortex]

finding it much MUCH easier to pug 11s than 10s

[coral ibex]

better than mine

i’m like 2650 cbf to pug above 10

[warm vortex]

Might be because everyone was doing the 10s to get loot so people doing 11s are ones that just want the score and focus

I don't blame you tbh

also timed my first 12 last night being the mists

the CoT is overtimed

[glad tusk]

does assa suck in lower keys since u cant ramp poisons?

[warm vortex]

it was one of my worst runs ever
was like 11PM after full clear heroic raid, meds had worn off
i was out of it

[glad tusk]

like, doing keys with enh shaman and ret palas and im not even close to them in dps since everyting dies so fast

[warm vortex]

splatter was in third place which was so bad

Yea, lower than like 10s it can be ab it sucky

Imo at least

[amber brook]

Do we ever win ret?

[glad tusk]

also my single turget sucks so bad in m plus spec

[warm vortex]

People mess up the rota so yea

which

[glad tusk]

its so crazy

[quasi stump]

ara-kara is so fucking stressful

[warm vortex]

idk how you mess up the ret rota

[quasi stump]

its so frontloaded and back loaded

[warm vortex]

Tbh ara is easy as fuck its just

so unfun

for me

X)

[subtle tundra]

skill issue

[quasi stump]

i mean i enjoy everything before the last boss and after the first boss

[coral ibex]

ara is the easiest dungeon this season

huh

[quasi stump]

dawnbreaker

[warm vortex]

also reached 1% haste

lets go

[coral ibex]

can’t phase thru the floor in ara kara

[quasi stump]

ok fair

[warm vortex]

The balls that buff ads can still go under the floor on boss 1

unless they fixed that

the ones you need to grab

[quasi stump]

wait did you see that video of the spirit link totem drifting away

[warm vortex]

Or rather buff the boss

YES

OMG

[coral ibex]

yea lol

[warm vortex]

that was so fucking funny lmao

[quasi stump]

https://stupidpenisx.com/larenwow/status/1851603045009768631?t=qGJtERpcwNfCS6Ban1zzhA&s=19

[warm vortex]

also just had a run with 3 guild members called "listen to my calls sami" and that fucking video came into my head for the first time in like 2 years

[drifting cedar]

guys do we aim to have 2 envenoms up most of the time or 1 is enough?

[warm vortex]

We aim to if you run TTK yes

But idk if you can keep 2 up

[coral ibex]

SAMIR LISTEN TO ME

[warm vortex]

So you just go for it i think

medium left, medium le- MEDIUM LEFT

You can say a quote from that video whenever someone does literally naything wrong

hey can we get mana before next pull
tank pulls anyway

LISTEN TO MY CALLS

[grim jay]

No

You just play a different build

Potentially

@glad tusk

[grim jay]

Whispyr wa enjoyer

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

God it yesterday

And my dps became a lot better

[opaque sigil]

Ok, so a question to anyone running higher (12+ keys)
I’ve been running exclusively TTK+MA build, feels good but ST still kinda stinks (as you don’t get sick energy regen w/o dashing).
Did anybody run same subterfuge build w/o TTK (for example, with Sudden Demise)?
How big is TTK increase in ST in m+ builds?

[grim jay]

You could potentially just sim St on 2.5min

[coral ibex]

ST won’t feel any better with SD

[grim jay]

Or however long you think a boss takes

[subtle tundra]

our st stinky

it is what it is

[warm vortex]

You’re stinky

[subtle tundra]

fuck you

[warm vortex]

:(

[opaque sigil]

ye, it’s more like ST sucks anyways with TTK - so maybe just embrace AOE and go SD and screw that, 3rd place st it is

[opaque sigil]

Good point, will try

[grim jay]

It sucks less tho and ttk also offers prio damage

In aoe

[warm vortex]

Yea, and get more ST specs in the team comp
But still obv try on ST

What did you drop for TTK btw

SBS or SD

[quasi stump]

wtf ret pali is so fun

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/johny-gif-27696534

[opaque sigil]

SD, aint no way I’m dropping SBS
playing with other classes our CD opener already feels bloated af

[warm vortex]

Fair

[quasi stump]

[warm vortex]

I dropped Doom and SBS for TTK and DS. Felt ok but I missed SBS

SBS, serrated bowel syndrome

[high walrus]

if you think ret is fun you'll lose your mind at Whack-a-mole

[grim jay]

You should never drop sbs

As Whispyr advises

In the pin

[high walrus]

instead of clicking the glowing button you get to smack it with a hammer

[quasi stump]

if you think ret is fun you should try: skibidi toilet

[warm vortex]

This should be framed on a fucking wall

That’s so funny

Cause it’s true

[quasi stump]

ill have you know im a very skilled player (arms warrior main who has anxiety over not having hekili) so watch your mouth...

[subtle tundra]

does he?

or does he say to do whatever you want

[coral ibex]

pins calls dropping sbs questionable

[grim jay]

#assassination message

Point 3

[subtle tundra]

literally says day1, day 2 stuff

we have formed an opinion since then

[grim jay]

Did something change until now?

Do you suddenly open faster without sbs?

[subtle tundra]

bro

1 gcd

is not faster opener

holy moly

its irrelevant

its not the reason you play sbs

[grim jay]

Its a second faster if you wanna put it that way already

[subtle tundra]

dropping sbs is more than fine

[grim jay]

So its by definition faster

[subtle tundra]

id recommend dropping it

and id recommend not dropping it if you like the cp

[keen spruce]

i'm in my villan arc now

[grim jay]

But you also refuse to play tea, would love to drop KB and are a bleed enjoyer

[opaque sigil]

okay, so poor people of 12-13 keys in EU today will be subjects to intense “no sbs gameplay” testing

[subtle tundra]

i dont refuse to play tea

[grim jay]

Bro you didnt

[spice spire]

Shmeowdy

[subtle tundra]

ive never done a key without tea

[subtle tundra]

buddy its not a big deal

its not like IC

it doesnt make or break the spec

it sjust SOMETHING

[grim jay]

Varas soon playing the cleave build without tea

I can smell it

And it smells burnt

[keen spruce]

it actually doesn't matter what you play in 12s or 13s

just go purely on vibes

[subtle tundra]

it doesnt matter in 15s either mostly

[keen spruce]

well i haven't done those

[subtle tundra]

it doesnt matter in 16s mostly

[grim jay]

I vibe with not putting in any talent points

[subtle tundra]

unless extreme cases where you cant finish the key

[keen spruce]

if these bozos can get a 12 done

[subtle tundra]

sbs is good yes but its a 2 pointer

[keen spruce]

then u can play w/e you want

[grim jay]

They look like gamers

[real granite]

sbs gives probably more value through dose than per se

[keen spruce]

they were actually nice no flame

[opaque sigil]

I mean there’s also a difference of 12 dawnbreaker and 12 SV
one is snoozefest, another one is iq check deplete machine

[subtle tundra]

thankfully we have sims that take everything into account

[keen spruce]

but the key started with "if we blast this key we go 13"

[spice spire]

Arms seems kinda dog rn

[grim jay]

But dogs are great

[keen spruce]

sv is just a tank/healer check

[subtle tundra]

woof...

woof...

[spice spire]

Hey king

[keen spruce]

he was fury when the party was formed

[spice spire]

I don’t care if the man blasted

But that’s rough

[quasi stump]

well uh

[opaque sigil]

wouldn’t be so sure bout that tbf
waaay to many ways to fuck up your run on so may occasions in comparison to other dungeons, idk

[quasi stump]

i was in the pally discord for like 2 mins but they're talking about the elction

[keen spruce]

it wasn't like a 10 death run anyways

either*

relatively clean

just uh

[real granite]

thats nothing

[keen spruce]

not blsting

I was lied to

[quasi stump]

skamorak

[subtle tundra]

nice

[real granite]

i took a peek earlier to fdk disc

[keen spruce]

paly discord is beans

[grim jay]

How can they even talk about anything thats not pressing a glowing Button

[real granite]

there were people asking for PAID couching

[nova aspen]

their class is so easy they dont even have to talk about it

[subtle tundra]

idk i didnt care about dps and just carried all the add dmg on the boss with darkest night envenoms

[nova aspen]

[real granite]

like, offering money to ppl for them to coach fdk

[grim jay]

Whats couching

[real granite]

coaching

whatever its typed

[grim jay]

[coral ibex]

paid coaching for 3 button spec

[subtle tundra]

there was a guy saying yesterday he'd pay for key log review

[warm vortex]

Oh god

did anyone see the monk discord annoucment

that reminds me of it

[subtle tundra]

i should do my own key log review

advertise it

and sell that service

[tired gull]

“Yep you did some damage”

[kind forge]

@grim jay do you play with sbs atm ?

[subtle tundra]

WRONG. YOURE HITTING WRONG TARGET.

NO MARK.

NO SPATTER>

YOUREDOG

[opaque sigil]

end up saying “you did well brother, your healer was shit as always, better luck next time”

[drowsy hatch]

Just yell and scream at them

[grim jay]

Affirmative

[drowsy hatch]

But be objectively wrong

[subtle tundra]

HOW CAN YOU BE SO BAD

OFC YOU NEED COACHING

[spice spire]

You should - people would actually pay for your insight. Memes aside

[subtle tundra]

30 EUROS/HR

JUST AT ME.

[kind forge]

thx bud

[spice spire]

That’s low ngl

[keen spruce]

someone should do a "is it imba or do I suck" series but for key log review

[warm vortex]

Make a wa that judges your timing

[opaque sigil]

kinda cheap

[spice spire]

That’s like high value

[subtle tundra]

hHAHHAHAH

[quasi stump]

yes lmao

im in like

[warm vortex]

like it calls you shit if you bleed outside of pndemic

[spice spire]

If you’re watching them live

[subtle tundra]

if thats low

[drowsy hatch]

Coach players to retain your spot at the top

[quasi stump]

every class discord

[grim jay]

@kind forge

[subtle tundra]

then im gonna be a full time coach

[tired gull]

I saw a log the other day of heroic silken court and the sin rogue wasn’t running spatter, but had ct

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/tiny-text-cant-see-ken-jeong-gif-5957945

[spice spire]

And helping them key

[subtle tundra]

cause 30 euros.....

yea im not telling you how much money that is for me

[spice spire]

So like clientele is the biggest issue there innit

[warm vortex]

Fucking
"You need to vote,. if you post a picture of you with an "i voted" pin youll get a role or smth

[kind forge]

exactly what im running

[spice spire]

You have limited clientele

[subtle tundra]

thank god assa is fotm

so clientele is at all time high

[grim jay]

Looks like varas with feet pics

[spice spire]

Varas don’t need the help fr.
We idiots do enough

[keen spruce]

🦶

[quasi stump]

:peepofeet:

[drowsy hatch]

no no he needs to coach them to keep others down

[subtle tundra]

i mean

if i got money

from it

id do it

i need moeny...

[spice spire]

Yeah and most rogue players (myself included) are dumb and or apes

[spice spire]

Add it to your bio here, don’t advertise and you can probably attract a few

[warm vortex]

Id pay you in

Uhh

[subtle tundra]

feet?

[warm vortex]

Maybe

[quasi stump]

[opaque sigil]

Are we turning into fdk discord at this stage

[subtle tundra]

😼

[real granite]

add it also in rio profile

[quasi stump]

nah we dont have to lock down a channel cause we're getting nerfed

LOL

[warm vortex]

Feet pics for assa coaching

Sounds like a deal

[grim jay]

[drowsy hatch]

double up the OF and the coaching ad

[coral ibex]

sir

[opaque sigil]

indeed, we just have to ping whispyr for every question, problem solved

[subtle tundra]

i cant goon

[spice spire]

Dislike that

[subtle tundra]

rn

stop

[grim jay]

I can do some angry german voice lines for your coaching varas

[warm vortex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1107076212486066187/1263259719636877474/test23456.gif?ex=6724ac0b&is=67235a8b&hm=c73ec8e6c1e02a2fb831b25863c6382b4b59357b73914715c4f6cc78c9329e50&

[real granite]

undead feets

[warm vortex]

It has been 0 days without feet

[quasi stump]

ruby life pools

that was a rough dungeon

not as bad as HOI tho

[opaque sigil]

that’s funny ngl

[coral ibex]

and he just falls over again lmao

[warm vortex]

I forgot who did it

but someone posted it here like

yesterday

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/spazcat-nibby-kissy-paw-cat-paws-gif-6994583196286927575

[coral ibex]

isn’t that a vdh

[spice spire]

If you know whispyr well enough it’s always 0 days without feet

[warm vortex]

and i foudn it super funny so i saved it

😳

[quasi stump]

i think im cooked cause when im dragon flying all I can focus on is the dragons soles and I wonder why they're so detailed

[grim jay]

[warm vortex]

Bro

imo

HoI nowhere near as bad as RLP

Fuck RLP

acc random questio

[spice spire]

Rlp was fine imo

But dungeon enjoyment is subjective

[warm vortex]

What is everyone fav and least fave M+ dungeon
for me i think mechagon junkyard was p chill n cool. Tazavesh was goated too
and tbh lower khara and nelf lair can fuck off

especially nelfs lair

[coral ibex]

tazavesh streets and upper kara are big W’s for me

[spice spire]

Favorite is east it’s TOP BABY

[warm vortex]

gross

the only good part about that shithole is that the map looked weird

[spice spire]

Bro wdym

Hold cooldowns

[real granite]

storms shrine........

[spice spire]

Kill friend

[subtle tundra]

both taza were fun

[subtle tundra]

streets needed some better bosses

[subtle tundra]

fuck you

[warm vortex]

Bro thats literally what it looks like

[quasi stump]

I started in S3 so...

[warm vortex]

its made of flesh and shaped like that

[subtle tundra]

the uterus dungeon

[split cipher]

Freehold (preoverhaul)

[warm vortex]

Yea

[quasi stump]

Fave is probably waycrest manor?

[spice spire]

This is my favorite dungeon wdym

[quasi stump]

least fave is siege or stonevault

[warm vortex]

with the dudes that did it from front and back

SV is valid tbh

and waycrest was fun

[subtle tundra]

just frustrating dungeon when you tried to minmax it

[warm vortex]

only problem is if you misteped by a fucking cm you pulled the entirety of africa

[nova aspen]

i'm not looking forward to the bee dungeon next season

that will be aids

[warm vortex]

cinderbrewt yea

that first pull is gross

[slim pebble]

I hope they bring back plaguefall

[spice spire]

Least favorite is uh

[warm vortex]

tbh im not excited for 3/4 of the TTW dungeons next season

[stray adder]

bruh

who are youj

[spice spire]

Nokhud?

[slim pebble]

Spires of ascension can go die in a fire

[subtle tundra]

holy...

[warm vortex]

i think like
rookery will be fine

other 3

[opaque sigil]

With release tuning please!

[warm vortex]

no

[hollow river]

[spice spire]

Spires is also awful

[warm vortex]

nononono

nonononon

SPIRES SUCKS

[spice spire]

I’m also a court fan

[warm vortex]

"Hey wanna have fucking obnoxiious rp

[spice spire]

I did enjoy court a bit

[warm vortex]

where every time you want to move

you have some angel carry you

:)

[slim pebble]

Hey check DMs ❤️

[quasi stump]

I do truly hate atal dazar

[spice spire]

Hey check dms

[quasi stump]

mainly cause I always pug my keys

[hollow river]

[stray adder]

atal is free wdym

[quasi stump]

vol'kaal

[stray adder]

it's so easy lol

[slim pebble]

Seriously if they bring back Spires of Ascension I may be taking a break

[warm vortex]

Every time you enter SoA is like

[stray adder]

yeah spire is so bad

[warm vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[stray adder]

I wanna see Sanguine and HoA

[slim pebble]

I loved sanguine

[spice spire]

Sanguine enjoyers

[quasi stump]

try playing in a group that cant sync damage for the totems

[warm vortex]

Blizzard give us gnomer

plase

[spice spire]

[stray adder]

sanguine is the best dungeon they ever made

[warm vortex]

i want an aoe dagger

[subtle tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6sbV2L7YC4
bring back plaguefall..

[stray adder]

i pug all the time

[subtle tundra]

😔

[spice spire]

Mfs forget that they absolutely made the middle two bosses crank ur asshole

[slim pebble]

All I do is pug

Yall got groups?

[stray adder]

my group is on and off because my tank is in the army

and he keeps getting deployed

so fucking annoying

[warm vortex]

Wish i had someone who could do that to me

He needs to go tank iraq

[spice spire]

HuH

[warm vortex]

You heard me

[spice spire]

Guild groups are 50/50 and usually I’m pugging a healer

So life is pain

[subtle tundra]

wait, 5 max combo point assa felt so much better to play

i fucking hate this 7 cp

[warm vortex]

i prefer it

im just happy i can aoe spread now

[stray adder]

i just miss ER

[warm vortex]

i don't tbh

stupid minigame

[stray adder]

what

[warm vortex]

i want flag back for asa

would be cool >:(

[stray adder]

3 cp lights up, land on cp win big

wow

[warm vortex]

What if you don't land on those because your weapons dont feel like crit today

[slim pebble]

I get on too late so guild groups are already going. I tried to pug my 10 SV yesterday to get my last port and hopefully head into all 11s and… an evoker pulled through the wall in a hallway twice

[stray adder]

skill issue?

idk

[slim pebble]

Just tell them to crit

[warm vortex]

Dude i gave my daggers the hype talk and everything

they were like

"no sorry i don't feel like it today"

[stray adder]

did you rub them though

[warm vortex]

:(

No

[stray adder]

thats your issue

[warm vortex]

i only sharpened them

also that name is a mood

genuinly love GB this seasonm

happy whenver i get to run it

[slim pebble]

It’s like when you’re trying to get your 2009 Corolla up a snowy hill and you gotta sweet talk her

[warm vortex]

hell i wouldent mind running it more

[spice spire]

Timed that with a WW playing mw for the first time since bfa lol

That dude was an absolute gamer tho

[warm vortex]

SV is aids

[stray adder]

I don't mind GB but ive done it an unhealthy amount of time

[warm vortex]

hardest dungeon this season imo

[stray adder]

• valiona is a shit boss

[warm vortex]

i only had 31 runs for my trink

I WILL BURN YOU FROM THE INSIDE OUT

IF THEY DO NOT KILL YOU I WILL DO IT MYSELF!

[slim pebble]

I got so lucky this season compared to the nick of time dagger.

[warm vortex]

Fuyck you

[slim pebble]

40 runs for dagger, 6 runs for Skardyns

[warm vortex]

you just brought that item back into my mind

Yuck that dagger farm was horrid

nearly as bad as writher branch

When i played sub X)

[slim pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-gawrsh-a-goofy-movie-disney-cartoon-gif-26563660

[stray adder]

wait until outlaw becomes meta and we have to farm 2 x poxstorm

[warm vortex]

Also GB

i misread your name as GF burned me the f out

and was confused

No im good thanks

ill stick to assasin

[slim pebble]

I’m 31 mate, I’m not playing outlaw 😂😂

[stray adder]

I'm 32

[spice spire]

Boomer

[stray adder]

lets be old together

[warm vortex]

You guys are so old

nearly double my age

lmao

[spice spire]

Double boomer

What I’m saying

[warm vortex]

Well not nearly, still a few years off

[balmy prism]

mfers roasted you in the comments

[warm vortex]

but eh close enough

[stray adder]

stop pretending like you guys arent 40

[slim pebble]

THERES A RAIDER IN MY GUILD THATS 20 and I almost cried

[warm vortex]

im 18

[clear arch]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[warm vortex]

and im going to mythic atm

so yea, young blud

[balmy prism]

time for your bottle

[stray adder]

the game is older than you holy shit

[balmy prism]

and sleepy time

[warm vortex]

it's funny
I have a second group of people i do stuff with on my alts

[subtle tundra]

yea... but my other pf video was better received

[slim pebble]

Fr I think you’re in the wrong channel

[warm vortex]

and i think all of them are old people
like ones 60 X)

It is yea

[slim pebble]

The zoomers go in outlaw

[subtle tundra]

tbh i didnt play very well looking back

[warm vortex]

people have characters older than me

[quasi stump]

ur younger than me

[subtle tundra]

but who cares !

[balmy prism]

still timed

[warm vortex]

I mean i still gotta do uni, my driving lessons and my job

[stray adder]

tbh I substract the 4 years of covid, never agreed to give those away

[warm vortex]

ontop of the game
so assa is fun to chill on

[stray adder]

I'm 28

[balmy prism]

drop out and become a raider

[slim pebble]

You timed a 29 and had people telling you that you played wrong lol

[stray adder]

[warm vortex]

Yea ill hit up liquid

Im sure they will accept me

[slim pebble]

Covid got me back into wow

I came back in Nyalotha

[balmy prism]

ye I heard they're looking for 18-year olds for blood transfusions for max, he's getting old

[warm vortex]

Oh god infinite stars

[stray adder]

Covid turned me into a basement dweller

[warm vortex]

Like a healing pot but a person instead

[balmy prism]

covid was the best time of my life

was in uni and all exams were remote

[warm vortex]

Hold on wheres that clip of that dude going ham about corruptions

[balmy prism]

bring back 200% mastery fire mage

[real granite]

mad maximum

[keen spruce]

how scuffed is this

is it too small

too short

[balmy prism]

it's average sized

[cursive adder]

Is it normal m+ bleed build sims 250k less than raid build?

[drowsy hatch]

if you're simming st yes

[subtle tundra]

ok so looking back on why i liked assa so much
it was definetly cause of the doting

5 cp max meant i had to redot so much more often

[thorn fjord]

MASTER

MASTER

[real granite]

just call my name cause I'll hear you scream

[spice spire]

I should call her

Boomers in chat with Metallica references smh my head

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-cat-girl-talk-fast-online-chat-gif-16273991575876544877

[spice spire]

:3

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/valtteri-cat-valtteri-cat-cat-valtteri-booty-gif-18965648

[keen spruce]

hey that's my gif

https://tenor.com/view/punch-anime-girl-punch-gif-3087067746279166019

[spice spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979179421888028722/1292866945070141501/discord_says_stinky_feet.gif

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/bober-kurwa-wombat-not-a-beaver-beaver-gif-8961649020872801915

[subtle tundra]

id pay

[spice spire]

Seek help mister varas

[subtle tundra]

🫡

[gusty mirage]

Ain’t enough help in the history of mankind for this man

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-cat-bubble-gif-25359692

[spice spire]

I can fix him

[gusty mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/scratching-koala-koala-koala-bear-drop-bear-fluffy-gif-11913187552090775988

[nova aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-jumping-raccoonjumping-gif-460805335907106932

[gusty mirage]

@earnest remnant this u?

[nova aspen]

he just wants to fly

[gusty mirage]

True

[earnest remnant]

if ansurek doesent die very soon

yes

[nova aspen]

my guild still on broodtwister

[lime bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/bober-kurwa-wombat-not-a-beaver-beaver-gif-8961649020872801915

[nova aspen]

it reminds me of a 9 minute m+ dungeon

[gusty mirage]

BOBR

[nova aspen]

aoe cc rotation, assigned kicks, prios etc

[lime bloom]

😄

[gusty mirage]

That honestly sounds so unbelievably assington city

[gray horizon]

brood isn't bad

once everyone gets their assignments down its pretty fun

[nova aspen]

its a joke if ur a high key enjoyer

but most of my roster does not do beyond 10's

so

[karmic stream]

is there a way to see how much energy you get from dashing scoundrel over a m+ run for example? Does that show in logs?

[gusty mirage]

It doesn’t sound very fun unfortunately

[gusty mirage]

Yessir, resources -> energy will show it

Breaks it down between venomous wounds, tea, and dashing, and I think it shows natural energy regen

[coral ibex]

coordination required in mythic raiding

[karmic stream]

tyvm

[gusty mirage]

Coordination isn’t even required in 11s tho

Esp with the new timers

[coral ibex]

yea 11’s are piss compared to mythic

[nova aspen]

i only need 2 more timed 13s

[gusty mirage]

The jump from 10 to 11 is hilarious compared to 11 to 12s+

[nova aspen]

most of them have been done without discord too

[gusty mirage]

P sure 10 to 11 is lower than 9 to 10

[nova aspen]

yeah 10 and 11 i saw no difference

pretty much

[gusty mirage]

The new timers are wild

Out here timing shit that doesn’t deserve to be timed

Easy timing 11s with 15 deaths lmao

[nova aspen]

what was a rare W blizzard move was they made that change on tuesday retroactive

[gusty mirage]

With a 3rd dps doing tank damage

[nova aspen]

my failed 13 GB by a minute suddenly was timed

[gusty mirage]

Wtf you’re an absolute gamer

Holy

Grim Butthole sucks

I hate it so much

[nova aspen]

i think at 14 and above u basically have to skip the duo lavabender

[nova aspen]

having a lot of fun on rogue this season

[tall jay]

With the Ovi Egg Trinket, do we wait for the Agi to be 20 stacks or the mast to be 20 stacks before popping?

[nova aspen]

im never this motivated usually

[coral ibex]

oh that’s why my pug tank did that

in a damn 11

dragon boss was a pain in the dick

[nova aspen]

yea and if they ever fix the cubby tank spot

idk if that pack can be skipped anymore

maybe

[nocturne quail]

does anyone have the envenom tracker thats two horizontal bars and is updated for new twist the knife

[coral ibex]

just lust the lavabenders

[drowsy hatch]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[drowsy hatch]

whispyrs has that

[nocturne quail]

word ty

[coral ibex]

no whispyr’s are vertical