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Pay me and ill give you a smooch 🙂
Call me the brutosaur if you sass me again brother
Ye but 30 bucks so i justified it for myself
still bad though
Brutosaur
Sup king
is the brutosaur worth the 90$ tho? i do alot of AFK in dorn right infront of it lmao
This is a timed 12 nectroic wake
I would log review for a brutosaur
Roast me
King Baldwin more like Horny for the Review amiright?
you did a fucking slice and dice

hahahahaha
he has snd on his bars
My friend bought it and he’s pissed at me for not using it. I’d rather hearth than let him justify the money he spent on it through me
Don’t roast lil homie
he asked for roast
Nah it’s okay it was outdated
He literally said toast him
That’s when slice and dice was being used
Varas has 0 chill
Do it
HOLY SHIT IM DUMB!!!
Pinged both of you sweeties
@subtle tundra roast me
I’m at work
can be said
tell me why i didnt not know you could continue to spread bleeds from 1 target....i was swapping to empty bleed targets to apply
That was act a very bad dungeon for me too rhat 12
This is fine, just more difficult
With ic you can do this but at the same time you get an extra dot if you swap to a target without one
this is going to make things easier lol
doesnt matter that much since scent already caps at 5 targets
but its a lil bit of damage
is there any reason to go ttk/ma? is it significantly more dmg overall? more prio? kinda getting back into assa coming for outlaw
and do you take double vanish w it?
ttk/ma isnt the play from what im seeing..atleast for M+
MA is definitely goated in keys, TTK is hit or miss
if taking ma what are you dropping just sb?
hmmm mr casualaddict is not running MA...thoughts?
hmm interesting ty, also you take double vanish in class tree?
Some people do but not everyone
awesome thanks for your help!
The extra 1-2 vanishes per key is iffy
theyre both fine
i didnt know if anybody knew if SB simmed higher or not than MA with yesterdays MA nerf
do I need to post the whispyr rant pin again
my fault. i didnt realize something was pinned already. my mistake for missing this and failing you so badly on this beautiful evening. I will swan dive out of my window now. Take care of the others
is it true we taking subterfuge in m+ now?
Pls no
^ hahahaha
It’s an option
15 builds
Within %
What matters is contextual
Just experiment and shit
(but yes a lot of people take subt)
SO STUpid the nerf we had
just gotta keep in mind that casualaddict has his own needs
what build do you use on raid?
I saw the nerf and I IMMEDAITELY rerolled enh!!!
Almost die for the photo but had to do it mythic sikran stonks
Ur so real for that
18 in a row 
that's the highest by far
That's fake
I hope blizz is keeping track of the world record stack counter
photoshop
Why does anyone lie
why wouldnt he lie?
It's the internet, you aren't allowed to post it if it isn't true
to take advantage of something
True and real bestie
the internet decides what is real and fake
And we decided that's fake
what build do you use for raid guys?

xD
The council has spoken
!guides
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the one there
I've run like 8 different builds in 12s
they all feel the same
except ttk builds are a little more cozy in ST
no noticable difference in Overall
Shmeeps quick q first time long time
just take talents that make your whiskers tingle and send it
How many hours have you played in the last two weeks
40 grim batol x 22min average
dear god
I resubbed on the 20th
what do you lose to get TTK
You’ve spent over half the time
No shot thats 10 days of play
Playing wow
You are insane
Are you okay king
18 rolls stonks
A casual doesn’t spend 5.66/10 days playing a video game

5.66/11
I mean to be fair
a lot of that
is just yapping in discord with friends
while afk in dorngal
I wanna see my played time this level let me see lol
unethical /played pad
what about a casual addict
That might track

I don’t really follow casual but he does seem to play a lot of keys
that's a knee slapper right there good one pal
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
100% original joke
It's already more than 1% of my character's lifespan for me!
gets pulled off in phase 2
gets ressed
misses the jump to the final platform
gets ressed
dies to tankbuster
like >?????????
Happens we go agane
I wish I could get pulled off in phase 2
Cease
you're complicit in my downfall
(I don’t actually care it’s a bit)
LOL
fix your gear @thorn fjord
Big
HOW
I wouldn't cease even if it wasnt
Lmao
you're responsible for at least 3 minutes of that /played yapping
I asked
i had to help you with rogue stuff...
Okay
i was @ in disc to help you... smh
Just covering for the duck
I explicitly told them not to ask you a question that I could look up on warcraftlogs

Seriosuly
You did half of my played at this level in 10 days bro grats lmao
how do you get killed that much in queen
i didnt even charge you, i did it out of the good of my heart
real one for that fr fr

Queen fucks tanks hard
Yeah Feast slaps insanely hard
Oh legitimately had a response prepped because I was certain that was gonna be a hornyposting
no I have too many nightmares over feast absolutely ruining my life
||this is a spoiler||
I’ve been got


See this is why you dont have Skardyns
im on my villain arc

noice
excuse me sir, my climbing immersion is broken because of you @balmy condor 
buddy
did you know this youtuber
that has 12k views on his video
recommends dropping iron wire
I’ve seen two questions about the YouTuber today
Haven’t heard of him before
Was reading
Classic
What was it, like shyv?
Shivz
free clout
ive considered just starting to make class guides and putting random shit in them
and seeing how many people i can get to come here asking about them
wh 
yea first time i hear about him too
i guess thats what happens when noone does youtube content
these fiends appear
and they get popular cause theres literally 0 competition
is it the same guy who released about 48 class guides at the beginning of the xpac
With a name like shivz I doubt
LOL
wait
wasnt that guy in here
pretty sure he got timed out for some argument about rupturing a dying mob

hmm
@light jacinth
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@spice spire
lmfao the famous youtube guy caught a timeout? insane that he would stoop to our level and argue
so do i drop iron wire now?
Hell yeah
SHIVZ himself said to drop iron wire do you even have to ask
yes famous man said so
man
When doing Court do y'all bleed both before Deathmark opener or do you just open and bleed after?
you have free will
Hold death mark until first charge
🤙
#assassination message oh yeah that guy was arguing with whispyr
saying you were wrong
xd
Yeah
When I see the pfp
Didn’t realize he was also self promoting
Xiani keeping tabs
Never gonna make that guy mad Smdh
bro's got that linkedin pfp
the last few nights..who hasnt argued with Whispyr 
Me
I don't know who to trust anymore
to be fair i havnt argued with em either..i just know alot have been floating in here rubbing their rank 1 titles in our faces
i stopped trusting whispyr after he personally ruined my broodtwister pug
no reason to argue anymore
I am zen itself

dropping iron wire made me realize
actually
that nothing I say or do matters
im going to call you out as soon as somebody comes in here and fires you up again lmao
people will do whatever they want
regardless of if it's a good idea or not
and that's their right ya know
it's whatever
I can't care anymore
being fotm in m+ for the first time ever
was not a good thing
i guess it explains the whole outlaw situation
Whispyr what makes upgrading 619->626 hero more efficient than crafting 619->636
I missed whatever specific event is being discussed, but iron wire is a good example of the conflict between insane utility and 0.5% sim dps
i just cant
when i see those questions it makes me fucking want to bust my skull open
lilianananana dont say anything about busting
Many many people will legitimately opt for the tiny sim dps
is it worth using an emerald gem for the blastphemite bonus?
im finna...
do as sim says
i don't know, I just think my damage is so low in m+ >.<
you pressing buttons hard enough?
You could drop iron wire for dam
if you value the meter more than the key, go ahead
!
The solution is obvious
!plater
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real chads know how broken blind is
i really really really recommend people playing with details off sometime
Let's get a tricks argument rolling again
your meter will be considerably lower when 5 mobs bolt you and no one in your group wants to press a button
Tricks of the Trade increases your dps by 3.2%
this is crazy based
the moment i vanish garrote and shit doesnt get silenced, assa is dead to me
and true for basically everyone
with ilvl 622, what number should I get at the aoe puppets?
then how am i supposed to know who to flame at the end of the key
two hundered bellion milliard million
i mean isnt iron wire the real reason assa pog? utility wise other 2 specs lacking
i guess i can just default to flaming healer
and at 620 1.2342 hundered bellion milliard million
WHO THE FUCK BROKE THE BOY AGAIN
And it absolutely blasts
Recovered Mental - aka nihilism
sorry dude I get 1.2% more dmg over trivializing half the current dungeons
we purposefully craft into slots that are unimportant because crafted gear is a lower ilvl than myth track. Bracers for example have the lowest agi/stats out of every slot, which is why every embellishment is crafted on bracers. Spending the crests to upgrade literally any other slot is going to be better
i would 1000x rather play outlaw but its such a throw 😦
no I need a answer, sim doesn't work for aoe no?
and prob my skill issue on assa
there is a dummy sim button
if you aren't doing rank 1 keys the spec you play really doesn't matter that much, outlaw is fine
Oh got it
i think pugging tho its way easier, also assa a lot less punishing on a wipe, like if you die right after pressing AR ur useless for a bit
I am based
I can’t speak for outlaw, but a sub rogue would probably never get invited to anything above 10 without a fat io gap
Assass is kinda free invites
So that’s nice
that's a single dummy no?
Imagine not being 630 yet
idk what groups you go into

do you just choose 6 bosses?
just push your own key and tell people to fuck off if they complain about your spec 
real
im at 624 and i sit right around 4.1m sustained w shit trinkets
yes
I have the gear to be 630 but I don’t have the will to farm those stones
6 boss for 5 mins > dungeonslice?
wtf
The one thing keeping me from the 630 club
i didnt see what u said before, dont yell at me bb

how? I get 1m xD can you tell me what you do?
varas, embrace nihilism
i have a 619 cloak
fellas, whats an ideal amount of crit atm? im sitting at about 10 100
at 632
that's fine 
omggggg
I started xpac late and have only had 3 vaults 😦 I really need to find a Mythic guild
a new onyx ring
Can someone explain to me why it isn't a damage loss if we just keep envenom buff up outside of cooldowns instead of "spamming" envenoms?
so grosss
i have multiple 619s actually
Onyx Annulet 2?
ye
Link character, lemme see that ish
Not again
Hey guys, just looking at the WoWhead rotation and wondering if I've been having an absolute brainfart this whole time..........do we FOK to clear the witnesses every time CTW is up? Or just in the opener? Rotation guide suggests just in the opener then muti/envenom spam but I have FOK whenever the proc is up
srsly they dont learn 😦
assuming ST where we don't FOK anyway
cloak trinkets boots
Because if you drop the buff by burning through all of your energy that's worse than spamming
not hard when your other slots are mostly 639
you do not have the energy to spam endlessly, you will end up going dry and dropping the buff / auto proccing tea at bad times
Okay so I should outside of kingsbane/DM just keep the buff up and chill a bit right?
Cuz I actually have that problem that I run dry too much
tbh if you want to spam
(in M+ ST)
Nah im just trying to understand things better at the core
Not wanting to spam just trying to get a grasp of things
even in raid build you have occasional dry spells
!design
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
Builder. Go watch porn or something idk. Spender. Builder. Pandemic time? Spender.

They're less common than in m+ though
you spam when you have the energy to do so, when you start dropping lower just try and pandemic your envenoms and maintain
are you using the right build? caustic spatter?
Bump - sorry this is bugging the shit out of me
assuming stay above 50 as to not consume tea ya?
you fok every time CTW is up
What should be a level of energy where i should start chilling more? At around half?
Also youre an energy class, as long as youre not capping energy youre not actually loosing anything by just maintaining the buff. Youre getting in more optimal windows
probably a bit higher than that in case you accidentally hit something / need to feint and don't want to proc tea
fok is a better builder than mut with ctw and not talented into vv
unless you want to hold it for an add spawn
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fUAMDnj6ExtQQtDjGBzXJr yeahh I try to keep it up
Counterpoint: rashananananan heroic.
Literally can’t spend enough
let see
people really be picking
Did you know rashananananana and I are related
random ass variables to sim
No shot
Sorry for killing your relative dog
my priest adds another na to the name
Yet to drop the cloak tho kinda pissed about it
so it's more obvious

Yeah I only have a normal rash cloak
Great, kind of what I assumed. The reason I ask is because there is me and a hard main sub rogue in the raid, hes rerolled sin and I have advised on a lot of the rotation / min-maxing / specifics etc. He's vastly improve and is now often just ahead of me in DPS, despite most raids I remember another nugget to share with him that hes not been doing. This is definitely not a WTF is going wrong, its just I'm teaching him how to optimise, but he has often been ahead of me without the finer elements down. Really struggling as to WTH I'm missing haha, come to the conclusion that hes the superior rogue and just better at implementing what I thought i was already doing!
You guys post dps stuff with a co rogue?
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IDC, I just want to improve, and help where I can haah
Yeah dude I love doz
There any videos that explain about how TTK and stuff works overlapping and such? I get the general idea, justn wanted to watch something in a bit more detail perhaps
holy shit imma use PAV in the future
it works like ironfur
fill up my WAs with PAVs
whispyr 11.0.5 vid
I asked my co rogue is he was doing some shit or whatever
and he just goes
has a picture breakdown of ttk
lmao
Unfortunately my corogue is a stinky outlaw player
if this is the case it is likely general gameplay stuff like positioning / maintaining uptime better, or he's just more consistent maybe 
meanwhile my interaction with anyone whos playing the same spec as me is to just change my details name to theirs to confuse people
I play everything
except sub is cringe
in modern day
okay so I simmed with 5 bosses on target dummy for 4 min ( https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fUAMDnj6ExtQQtDjGBzXJr ) and I make 30% of the sim target at the dummies xD xD Here's what I do:
I open with ambush for darkest night proc. I spam garrote and rupture twice (I know I waste CP here) then crimson, then muti for spatter then basically fok envenom and keeping crimson and spatter up. Also keeping an eye on the whole darkest night thing and keeping that up. envenom with 5cp / 7cp
Is there anything big wrong with that?
but still get stuck playing it sometimes
Yeah @balmy condor this for sure isn't a.....somethings missing from WoWhead, as thats where I have got 95% of my information, and have susbequently passed on.....its just fact checking my understanding really
they shouldve never changed sub 😦
Maybe im just an old guy that cant quite get the hang but gets the principle haha
I’m a one trick what can I say

depends on the boss too I guess, if he's just padding on adds better or whether he's consistently doing more ST damage on princess is a bit different
me and hi on ky'veza were big flippa and big slippa, #1 question in stream "is whispyr flippa or slippa?" 
yeh that's fine
lmao
i also apparently suck ass at padding on ulg and bloodbound
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comparing boss dam to overall like-
padding on ulgrax 
bloodbound padding is just taking caustic spatter and focusing the moving add, no?
get that boss damage
In general, we are very close - we both definitely make mistakes from pull to pull, and each edges it from time to time. Fight timing etc. heavily comes into play which I understand.....but hes not got skardyns and I do (imagine this gonna be big when he gets it) and without the "optimal" rotation he still bangs just ahead often times
bloodbound padding isn't real, the adds actually need to die
caustic will still hit him in that scenario
Isn't the optimal way for ulgrax dam
to not soak
since the soaks seemingly are always during cds
well the optimal way for every boss is to not do any mechanics
🤔
"whispyr we're hitting enrage on ulgrax and intermissions are taking a long time, what do you think about taking tempest to help with the aoe"
I almost crashed out
I think consistency is the big one....guess thats where hes dialled. Ultimately I think we are both about there, just wanted to make sure I was fully understanding whats going on and also make sure Im not passing on duff information
anyone have a mdt profile or wa that helps timing cloak for avoiding queensbane on kyveza?
well i meant specifically on those two it seems
the soak comes up right as kb comes back
cloak the big wave on BB for extra deeps
as long as you cloak the charge it avoids it, shouldn't be a tight timing
Any clue why specced into deathstalker I still have CB in class wa?
biggest lie
ups sorry for the @
you have to cloak within 1s of it hitting
no clue
do you still have cold blood talented 
^
i hope so
it's the same shit as 1st boss necrotic wake frontal
xD
I don't think that applies to this charge
its 1s no?
it's not a special thing
weird question, but how realistic is it to get 4 casts of mandate on kyveza when i play double on use? with transmitter pre pull? or is the window to get the last way too close because killing it on 6:25 is unlikely?
if you kill at 6:30+ you will
if you don't, you won't
Whats the best way to farm valorstone nowadays?
don't bother man please don't do that to yourself
anyone got a macro they could share that kicks the nearest worm on ovi so I can just stand near my assigned one and kick /wo having to mouseover or swap targets?
But then there's the dispute about whether cloaking the charge
worldsoul memories for stone is pretty fast if you have the thingies from delves
or cloaking intermission is better
how many you need? for low amounts a quick wq can give like 30-60
focus target the worm when it spawns and have a focus kick macro
i'd lean towards cloaking charge
probably best to use a focus macro, but you still have to make the worm a focus target
can I tell details to now show the dmg window on puppets?
intermission is chill, elusiveness + evasion + 2x feint covers it
I cook one specific thing for race 
and i can be quick to fix scuffed end of intermission lines
for one specific setup
friends came back to the game and theyre always starving valorstone to upgrade their mythic gear. they have the crest just not the valorstone. so like 1000+
guys, anyone else got the problem pulling packs and bosses in m+ because of "singular focus"?
intermission cloak is mostly in the off case that the lines are REALLY bad
in one set
I was losing my fucking mind man I would not wish this on anyone
worldsoul memories / low m+ then
I was thinking something like rasz ball macro but just for worms
Even besides the kill time, your kb between deathmarks can get griefed by the second dashes. I didn't send it until after I confirmed I wasn't getting dashes. And if that happens, it sets your CDs behind a few seconds
also have em clear low difficulty raids
Btw today wow its unplayable in raid
you have to send it on cd or it will desync everything if you want to do the 4 mandates in the fight
Its not even the same boss now
the lag we are having in ovinax is crazy
which also means you may be out of range for half your KB if you get a dash
but it is what it is
yes
Yeah that's what I was trying to say, sorry if I phrased poorly. But it doesn't seem worth the risk, I feel like I get second dashes quite frequently
but then i'd have to play outlaw wtf
I told exile to transmitter prepull to move the mandate back far enough to get an additional cast during enrage
cause they were playing on enrage margin
and then on kill he didn't even get the cast off, they killed while exile was mid cast
with elu

I did it every pull and then died on the actual kill so everything was off

skill issue frfr
I did it on the rekill though very pog very nice
sims didn't have you dying mister
maybe I just code in a 9 second death timer randomly in the middle


could I ask for some advice please, so deciding between dagger and legs from vault, currently the only rogue in the guild so if a dagger drops it's mine, we reclear 4/8 weekly, legs is the play right?
in an m+ build deathstalker - can someone explain to me how deathmark and kingsbane play into it?
probably leg yeah
what ilvl do the legs come from vault
it sounds like legs in generral but doubly so if they're high ilvl
i mean legs also drop on the first 4
both 623
yes legs are better, bloodbound will drop the dagger eventually 
so its a wait for drops angle
he has competition for legs though
yah but other classes use
they are very single target no?
well depends, legs from 1st boss are more common than dagger but gota use catalyst / otherrs might need
true true
id say go legs and chill
I mean I could wait until reclear next weds but nice to push everything for prog on Sunday
press on cooldown on a large mob in the pack
ok guess legs is the play thx everyone
So BIG question. On my rogue which I play since Legion I am rolling under 20 on good items and above 80 things I don't need... Question is: "Is the char cursed ? And should I delete it?" I am rly close to swapping to another rogue 😄
Yes swap
yeah delete it
you are playing rogue, you are cursed already by design
It is genuine question ngl
Man I was a 99 parser rogue but ever since the changes in a 95 parser
I must be messing up my opening
sorry bro i guess the class isnt for you anymore
can you pre cloak the webs in rashanan?
nah just some RNG and other small things. You doing this on HC ?
I mean it's pretty schizo to think your character can't roll 1-100
It partitioned (twice)
Ya but when I have been doing this since s3 of DF. It is hitting diff
but its basically single target no
Guys is it worth using 2x supercharger and forced induction in raid or stick with 2x lethality/1x supercharger?
kingsbane damage spatters to mobs around it, you do big damgage and it hits everything
yeah ur just assassinating the prio target
and cleaving everything else
they're basically equal
forced induction might be slightly better depending on the fight
Is it still possible to kill a healer while maintaining stun lock on him?
ok thanks that what I was looking for
forced induction sims 10k more for me thats why i asked
I havent played rogoue since legion
Who da fuq knows
where can i find updated specs for m+ ?
Wowhead
I think this is a #pvp one they’d know a little more!
can you pre cloak the webs in rashanan?
try
it says "Last Updated: 2024/10/21"
checka da pins
I don't think so but it's worth a shot I guess
The 5% ma nerf changed nothing
im on kyveza i guess it can be better
Move forward
Same shit
But we still have 15 builds that are viable so it’s kinda whatever
guys where can I find updated specs for m+
do you sim dungeon slice, or patchwerk 5 bosses?
all the guides say updated 10/29
do these guide writers just like
not care
slackers
DS is fine

is fine or is good
it's actually already the 31st in east europe, and the guides still say 10/29
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TWO DAYS?
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insane
we should kill them
okay just to confirm you cant pre cloak the webs kekw
how dare they
WTB new WoWHead writer with 4 Rank 1 titles
5 tries i a row with first webs despair
I mean he is working on the 11.0.5 video, give him some time 
There’s no absolute answer on what to sim. They’re just models to compare gear/builds. dungeon slice is middle of the road: if you’re looking for an aoe build do 10t, 8t whatever, if you wanna know boss damage just do 1t. There’s no exact answer for m+ simming it’s not going to spit out a number and you say “that’s what my dps should be” but it’ll give you the build changes and differences you need
just wipe your raid
and say oops
Thank you for your work swoldier
XDD

o7
even this week no dagger drop should i craft or wait 1 more wait for myth ?
Buddy he’s writing the script for the 11.0.7 PTR wdym
oh yeah totally forgot about that shit
inbefore he's getting crazy again with the new onyx thingy
what does your gear look like
In M+ when only running one charge of Shiv, should it always be held for the end of KB rather than sending together?
no point crafting offhand
ma guy I am with you. No myth dagger since start of tier
I am gonna craft
trinkets/hands/neck/chest/brac all myth
should i craft wrist ?
or keep haste mastery one
sim it
that's a myth track skardyn's?
I would imagine upgrading that is your biggest gain
It’s not worth crafting an offhand
it's basically not worth crafting anything outside of your 2 embellishment slots, upgrading myth track items is a more efficient use of crests
Ty legend 🫡
I mean if the FUCKING dagger doesnt drop
Uggz is doing gods work today god bless
you can sim that on raidbots though, just paste your string into top gear, click the little "+" next to the items you can upgrade and select their upgrade tiers, press everything you could upgrade and press sim, it will only upgrade things you can afford
I have been very bored today 
and I am fully upgraded now outside of my wrists that are 619 crafted
Yeah offhand isn’t big it’s just stats and you have a larger gain elsewhere with upgrades
Glad to have ya bud
the fucking game has 2 more weeks. Next week I upgrade wrists and after that I do dagger
if I dont end my life before that
well if you try to do that make sure you use your actual good dagger..has better stats

is not that deep bro its just a game
It’ll be okay it’s just the dagger
the offhand is a very small amount of dps it isn't important
Life is beautiful and don’t ever do that over some silly pixels. Ik you’re being hyperbolic but still

Piece of shit ret player coming to assa rogue. How long do I get hazed for?
forever
You don’t
Welcome
Hope you enjoy the class

…what if that’s why I switched…
Because you wanna be hazed or
👀
ret players cant enjoy more than 3 button rotations
roll hunter if ya wanna be hazed
yes because sin has so many buttons
Oh I’m still playing it with 3 buttons
Hey guys, im new to the assa rogue, can u tell me do i need to apply and manage Crimson Tempest in single target in m+, im playing DeathStalker
Mf seek help 
(I know this is a joke)
😂
Not worth worrying about
don't bother
never in ST
?
crimson with 2+ mobs
guyss, wich talents for m+ after nerf ?
Check ping
You actually made me check my dagger and it is actually mast/vers from my sub times 😄
Glhf
thank god they added wake of ashes to assa
should we reroll after nerf?
youre welcome
would be hard in aoe if not
yes reroll enhance
Yes reroll to enh immediately
It’s called wake of assa’s
i prefer to call mine Wake of Sin's
Wake of Ass's
thanks, so even in 2 target for example 2nd boss CoT i dont need it right?
funny my friends call me wake of ass but im not sure why
CT on 2 or more
yea just CT on 2 or more mobs. so on 2nd boss you can CT the adds 🙂
And one more question, i read IV guide and seems like our stats is close one to another but bis is pretty much without haste, and im starving a lot without energy in M+ builds on single target do i need just chill and just autoattack sometimes?
I have 639 transmitter and Sacbrood, should I pick Skardyn? sim's pick is head
I call mine quake of ass
I’ll be here all night
assass you WILL run out of energy. its just part of it bb gurl
Skardyns is likely the best especially if you don’t want to to deal with transmitter
!design
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
guys...im 35. is that too old to shop at Zumiez?
yea
Just because it’s kinda the rare drop where you can get a myth head pretty regularly
LMFAO
Solid vault tho
Idk what that is so yes
skate shop
skater clothing shop
what if im an ex skater/bmxer? still to old / uncool?
Yes time to shop at Costco
depends, are you tony hawk
Enjoy what you enjoy who cares about being too old
yes
Is this correct for Apm list for both sin hero specs ?
tony hawk sold out! he sells clothes at walmart/kohls
Had to clarify that one
Is ret at the top?
Add about 2-4 and yeah
Equal to Arms Warrior
@vestal sapphire already trying to switch back to his ret pala
Look he’s a Prot pala now…
I add some Fkeys into my rotation to up the apm but yeah that seems accurate
dont be a meta chaser
a trinket with cast time? 😮
Quakethree has a uh.
Reputation 
Yes
Prot Pally has highest apm score of 88
wait whats going on with sub, is the profile borked or something
prot pala throws shield and everybody is quiet
Honestly was just boring couldn’t really do much more with it.
Tanking is fun I enjoy it actually swapped from Prot to ret but he’s back to Prot looking for a more challenging dps spec 🥲
It’s not that low APm so it has to be
Someone not been sumbitting API for Sub
I would guess it's freaking out with losing shadowdust
Real
can send print for me pliss
yeh
I don't think we've submitted profiles for 11.0.5
probably should get around to that
so with thistle tea should i just be using it when i need it or just let the passive handle it
ok thanks
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
yes
say less
Less
less
ty
Hi. Why does the APL use Thistle Tea after sending Kingsbane, and not directly before it -- immediately after Shiv? I see on top logs they're sending it before-hand -- why? Does it matter? Thanks.
ty
okay I think I fixed my dmg issue at least on puppets to a big degree - thanks - still shit though 😛
i think im calling in the next two days of work. gonna work on my rogue skills and start my weekend early.
I’ve seen those logs, I’d call out next week too
(I haven’t seen those logs)
just like me 
no, you are not wrong.
are you guys running an amber gem for the special effect or not bothering?

Not running it
you are not wrong. im TELLING YOU ! I know the guy!
!wa
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
!talents
Guys, do u usually run droptimizer in raidbiots every time u get the best performing item from the last time u ran it? haha
I don't quite get how it works
top gear
You'd run top gear with a new /simc. Use droptimizer to find the pieces you should aim for getting.
so idea idea would be, running droptimizer once maybe for dungeons, get some of those items,
then run top gear to find out if you actually benefict from them right now, correcto?
every time you get a piece of loot, sim it with top gear
every vault, sim it with top gear
besides that run a droptimizer or a stat weight just once in a while to see what is off or what item to target
Do you guys track poisons on nameplates? Or what is the useful debuff to track on the nameplates other than rupture/garrote ?
ok, and about droptimizer
do u have any idea why wouldn't droptimizer recommend me the boralus trinket, the spyglass one? It's supposed to be BiS for assass.
Is there macro for Shadowstep+kick that works on mouseover and need to be pressed once?
I use Whispyr plater
!wa
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
any softcaps we should know about?
can i have 2 different profiles ?
you can have a lot with plater
only my rogue use his profile
my warrior use jundies
any idea why sometimes my marks dont get consumed?
depends on your gear/trinkets I guess
itll just sit at the same # of stacks for multiple 5+ usages and then eventually it just starts consuming
if you have DN up also, you need to spend that first
is the spending on the targeted mark?
ive seen it where darkest night wasnt up, and yes it's on the marked target
im assuming it's just a bug with threatplates
but i think ive seen it on the default target frame too
Link to current raid and key talent builds now?
Spyglass is not simming higher for me neither (same ilvl as other trinkets)
i thought skardyn was?
Because bis lists are content engagement that farm clicks
Just get skardyns/transmitter + literally anything
Delve trinkets, spyglass, arakara, anubikkaj it’s all the same shit
They’re budgeted the exact same on their ppm so it barely matters what you use
Just ask raidbots and sim for the content you are doing
Do people hold CDs before a boss mechanic that might mean they wont be able to take advantage of the entire duration?
Yeah I was looking at the Rash logs, but most of the top logs just blast at the start
the answer is it depends entirely on the fight and the mechanic, sometimes you have to send on cooldown because you would miss a use of the cooldown if you hold
just blast and hope you don't get web

Yeah that was me last night, but I guess its just luck
blast and if you get web, edge as close as possible 
first web we send to back so I cant edge that unfortunately
we sent web people all the way to the back to be safe when we first pulled it and never stopped 
but yeah, just is what it is
we say "back right" which means the warriors just go right and keep hugging boss 
!design
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
i picked caustic spatter on rash tonight, actual giga scam useless ass talent on that boss

adds not close enough
yeah the adds need to be right under the boss to get hit by it, and also everyone in the world wants to explode those adds
This is why I can't parse this fight, people slam them
press boss damage parse to make yourself feel better
so a 626 transmitter is better than 606 skardyns?
probably if you don't consider the headache to be a dps loss
i simmed and skardyns was better but just weird to see that idk
no iron wire good?
maybe not then
!tea
Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:
/cast Shiv
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
Does Deathmark duplicate the bleeds applied before or after you cast it?
both
it's dynamic
So should I reapply garrote and rupture before DM falls off?
Its unfortunately not maintained for rogues
damn
been a pretty bad resource every time i've seen it for every class i've played
i like the idea though
Its a lot of work to maintain it
But when it was working during ~aberrus for assa it was really good
yeah when its up to date for the spec it can be super useful, but i dont even want to think about the amount of work it would take to keep it up to date
For free as well
Are there any good resources for log analyses? So used to warrior discord where you can just chuck a log at em and they'll dissect it
how do you not lose DM on ulgrax intermission
for raid do we use fan of knives for anything with 2+ targets? like for council or on brood when just the big spiders are up
just save vanish for intermission and reapply on ads?
How does the new supercharge work? I don’t see any glowing combo points of buffs or anything. Am i missing something?
just save DN from the boss and hit an add with it
It’s not an buff/aura so you can’t see it unless ur weak aura tracks it
Your next spender does more damage
It’s on the cp itself
Its not tied to any specific CP at all anymore
If you go back to default bliz ui you can see it
isn't that just an indicator
Indicator yeah
that you have it
It’s not on a specific cp

So no glowing combo points or buff. Next spender just do more damage. Shouldn’t it be under like buffs or something?
!wa
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
I mean yeah probably but it's not
Your combo point do glow
No its not an aura
Youre likely just using a weakaura pack that doesnt have it
You don’t really need to track though I’m sure you remember when you cast shiv
^ Ye that too, its not necessary to track it
But it can be done via weakauras, just not via a traditional buff
Hmm. I’m getting a bit confused here. I haven’t noticed an animation for it either
There isn't one
Wait so if I cast Mutilate after shiv thats bad yea?
No, casting mutilate is fine
they took all the cool er stuff and got rid of it 
ahh kk



