#assassination

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subtle tundra
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?!?! you paid real money for it

quasi ingot
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Pay me and ill give you a smooch 🙂

spice spire
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Call me the brutosaur if you sass me again brother

feral mason
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still bad though

spice spire
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Sup king

quasi ingot
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is the brutosaur worth the 90$ tho? i do alot of AFK in dorn right infront of it lmao

sacred bloom
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This is a timed 12 nectroic wake

arctic socket
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I would log review for a brutosaur

sacred bloom
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Roast me

feral mason
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Depends how much money you have to spend

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gotta decide that for yourself

spice spire
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King Baldwin more like Horny for the Review amiright?

sacred bloom
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Wait

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IGNORE THAT

spice spire
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Just repost in thread

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I’ll use the right one

subtle tundra
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you did a fucking slice and dice

feral mason
quasi ingot
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hahahahaha

feral mason
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MODS he has snd on his bars

subtle tundra
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whats that fucking shiv

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doing

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for fun shviing?

sacred bloom
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It was outdated

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Ok this was today

high epoch
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My friend bought it and he’s pissed at me for not using it. I’d rather hearth than let him justify the money he spent on it through me

arctic socket
subtle tundra
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he asked for roast

sacred bloom
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Nah it’s okay it was outdated

spice spire
sacred bloom
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That’s when slice and dice was being used

spice spire
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Varas has 0 chill

sacred bloom
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ROAST ME

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roast my 12 key

spice spire
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I put it in a thread

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Should miss nothing

quasi ingot
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HOLY SHIT IM DUMB!!!

spice spire
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Pinged both of you sweeties

arctic socket
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@subtle tundra roast me

subtle tundra
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youre literally on league rn

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nothing worse

arctic socket
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I’m at work

subtle tundra
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can be said

quasi ingot
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tell me why i didnt not know you could continue to spread bleeds from 1 target....i was swapping to empty bleed targets to apply

sacred bloom
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That was act a very bad dungeon for me too rhat 12

drowsy hatch
feral mason
quasi ingot
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this is going to make things easier lol

feral mason
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doesnt matter that much since scent already caps at 5 targets

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but its a lil bit of damage

zenith coral
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is there any reason to go ttk/ma? is it significantly more dmg overall? more prio? kinda getting back into assa coming for outlaw

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and do you take double vanish w it?

quasi ingot
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ttk/ma isnt the play from what im seeing..atleast for M+

drowsy hatch
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MA is definitely goated in keys, TTK is hit or miss

zenith coral
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if taking ma what are you dropping just sb?

drowsy hatch
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Lots of damage with subterfuge, longer IC and IW uptime

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Yeah SB or SD. Probably SB

quasi ingot
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hmmm mr casualaddict is not running MA...thoughts?

zenith coral
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hmm interesting ty, also you take double vanish in class tree?

drowsy hatch
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Some people do but not everyone

zenith coral
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awesome thanks for your help!

drowsy hatch
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The extra 1-2 vanishes per key is iffy

drowsy hatch
quasi ingot
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i didnt know if anybody knew if SB simmed higher or not than MA with yesterdays MA nerf

drowsy hatch
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do I need to post the whispyr rant pin again

quasi ingot
deep wave
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is it true we taking subterfuge in m+ now?

spice spire
quasi ingot
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^ hahahaha

spice spire
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15 builds

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Within %

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What matters is contextual

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Just experiment and shit

drowsy hatch
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(but yes a lot of people take subt)

final warren
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SO STUpid the nerf we had

stray adder
# prime hull

just gotta keep in mind that casualaddict has his own needs

final warren
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what build do you use on raid?

drowsy hatch
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I saw the nerf and I IMMEDAITELY rerolled enh!!!

strong wing
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Almost die for the photo but had to do it mythic sikran stonks

spice spire
strong wing
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that's the highest by far

tawdry crypt
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That's fake

drowsy hatch
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I hope blizz is keeping track of the world record stack counter

quasi ingot
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photoshop

spice spire
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Why would he lie

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What do they gain

tawdry crypt
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Why does anyone lie

quasi ingot
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why wouldnt he lie?

drowsy hatch
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It's the internet, you aren't allowed to post it if it isn't true

strong wing
spice spire
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True and real bestie

quasi ingot
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the internet decides what is real and fake

tawdry crypt
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And we decided that's fake

final warren
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what build do you use for raid guys?

tawdry crypt
strong wing
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xD

spice spire
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The council has spoken

drowsy hatch
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!guides

drowsy hatch
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the one there

keen spruce
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I've run like 8 different builds in 12s

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they all feel the same

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except ttk builds are a little more cozy in ST

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no noticable difference in Overall

spice spire
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Shmeeps quick q first time long time

keen spruce
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just take talents that make your whiskers tingle and send it

spice spire
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How many hours have you played in the last two weeks

stray adder
keen spruce
quasi ingot
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dear god

keen spruce
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I resubbed on the 20th

spice spire
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Buddy

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That means

vital haven
spice spire
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You’ve spent over half the time

thorn fjord
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No shot thats 10 days of play

spice spire
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Playing wow

thorn fjord
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You are insane

spice spire
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Are you okay king

keen spruce
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weather bad no flying

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weather bad no golfing

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but now i'm caught up

strong wing
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18 rolls stonks

keen spruce
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so I can be a casual

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surely

spice spire
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Bet

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Brother

keen spruce
spice spire
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A casual doesn’t spend 5.66/10 days playing a video game

keen spruce
spice spire
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5.66/11

keen spruce
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I mean to be fair

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a lot of that

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is just yapping in discord with friends

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while afk in dorngal

thorn fjord
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I wanna see my played time this level let me see lol

keen spruce
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unethical /played pad

balmy condor
spice spire
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That might track

restive falcon
spice spire
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I don’t really follow casual but he does seem to play a lot of keys

stray adder
primal schooner
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guys what macros r u using in assa rogue?

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i am not using a single one

warm vortex
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Dude

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one of my main tanks in the raid

drowsy hatch
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There basically arent macros

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at most

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!tea

prisma monolithBOT
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Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
balmy condor
limber lion
warm vortex
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gets pulled off in phase 2
gets ressed
misses the jump to the final platform
gets ressed
dies to tankbuster

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like >?????????

spice spire
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Happens we go agane

drowsy hatch
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I wish I could get pulled off in phase 2

spice spire
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Cease

keen spruce
thorn fjord
spice spire
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(I don’t actually care it’s a bit)

thorn fjord
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LOL

quasi ingot
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fix your gear @thorn fjord

limber lion
restive falcon
drowsy hatch
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I wouldn't cease even if it wasnt

spice spire
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Oh

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Understandable

drowsy hatch
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Lmao

keen spruce
spice spire
restive falcon
spice spire
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Okay

restive falcon
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i was @ in disc to help you... smh

spice spire
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Just covering for the duck

keen spruce
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I explicitly told them not to ask you a question that I could look up on warcraftlogs

warm vortex
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Seriosuly

thorn fjord
warm vortex
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how do you get killed that much in queen

restive falcon
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i didnt even charge you, i did it out of the good of my heart

keen spruce
restive falcon
spice spire
drowsy hatch
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Yeah Feast slaps insanely hard

spice spire
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Oh legitimately had a response prepped because I was certain that was gonna be a hornyposting

drowsy hatch
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no I have too many nightmares over feast absolutely ruining my life

coral ibex
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we found the line for lilianana

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congratulations chat

spice spire
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God I Wish queen Ansurek would ruin my life

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I could fix her fr

stray adder
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||this is a spoiler||

spice spire
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I’ve been got

coral ibex
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fugma

spice spire
drowsy hatch
thorn fjord
stray adder
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im on my villain arc

spice spire
wispy marsh
spice spire
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Got

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Hot even

warm vortex
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Yea but like

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we have killed her before

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And the other tank isnt having an issue

uneven marsh
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excuse me sir, my climbing immersion is broken because of you @balmy condor kekW

spice spire
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I’m just seeing that they got the grip

subtle tundra
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did you know this youtuber

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that has 12k views on his video

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recommends dropping iron wire

spice spire
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I’ve seen two questions about the YouTuber today

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Haven’t heard of him before

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Was reading

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Classic

drowsy hatch
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What was it, like shyv?

spice spire
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Shivz

quasi ingot
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free clout

haughty flicker
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ive considered just starting to make class guides and putting random shit in them

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and seeing how many people i can get to come here asking about them

uneven marsh
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wh OMEGALUL

subtle tundra
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yea first time i hear about him too

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i guess thats what happens when noone does youtube content

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these fiends appear

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and they get popular cause theres literally 0 competition

stray adder
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is it the same guy who released about 48 class guides at the beginning of the xpac

subtle tundra
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he is watching casual addict vod

spice spire
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With a name like shivz I doubt

subtle tundra
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LOL

waxen oyster
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wait

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wasnt that guy in here

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pretty sure he got timed out for some argument about rupturing a dying mob

spice spire
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I sit no shot it’s the rupture guy

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Okay

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This all makes sense

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Holy

soft shale
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hmm

spice spire
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@light jacinth

stiff bronze
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
light jacinth
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@spice spire

quasi ingot
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lmfao the famous youtube guy caught a timeout? insane that he would stoop to our level and argue

spice spire
subtle tundra
spice spire
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Hell yeah

drowsy hatch
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SHIVZ himself said to drop iron wire do you even have to ask

quasi ingot
subtle tundra
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man

wispy marsh
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When doing Court do y'all bleed both before Deathmark opener or do you just open and bleed after?

subtle tundra
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being fotm

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is so much fucking misinformation

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its unbelievable

balmy condor
light jacinth
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🤙

waxen oyster
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saying you were wrong

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xd

spice spire
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Yeah

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When I see the pfp

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Didn’t realize he was also self promoting

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Xiani keeping tabs

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Never gonna make that guy mad Smdh

stray adder
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bro's got that linkedin pfp

quasi ingot
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the last few nights..who hasnt argued with Whispyr kekdog

spice spire
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Me

waxen oyster
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Tbh my favorite are people who say

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the guide says different

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to whispyr

stray adder
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I don't know who to trust anymore

quasi ingot
# spice spire Me

to be fair i havnt argued with em either..i just know alot have been floating in here rubbing their rank 1 titles in our faces

haughty flicker
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i stopped trusting whispyr after he personally ruined my broodtwister pug

balmy condor
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I am zen itself

spice spire
balmy condor
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dropping iron wire made me realize

subtle tundra
balmy condor
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that nothing I say or do matters

quasi ingot
balmy condor
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people will do whatever they want

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regardless of if it's a good idea or not

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and that's their right ya know

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it's whatever

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I can't care anymore

subtle tundra
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being fotm in m+ for the first time ever

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was not a good thing

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i guess it explains the whole outlaw situation

cobalt sphinx
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Whispyr what makes upgrading 619->626 hero more efficient than crafting 619->636

subtle tundra
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whispyr casualaddict crafted feet should i too?

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LOL

pliant silo
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I missed whatever specific event is being discussed, but iron wire is a good example of the conflict between insane utility and 0.5% sim dps

subtle tundra
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i just cant

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when i see those questions it makes me fucking want to bust my skull open

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lilianananana dont say anything about busting

drowsy hatch
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well its not gonna be casualaddict anymore

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its gonna be the goat SHIVZ

pliant silo
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Many many people will legitimately opt for the tiny sim dps

haughty flicker
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you've done it whispyr

green nebula
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is it worth using an emerald gem for the blastphemite bonus?

quasi ingot
subtle tundra
crimson zephyr
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i don't know, I just think my damage is so low in m+ >.<

quasi ingot
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you pressing buttons hard enough?

pliant silo
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You could drop iron wire for dam

subtle tundra
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!

pliant silo
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The solution is obvious

late tusk
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!plater

prisma monolithBOT
green nebula
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real chads know how broken blind is

subtle tundra
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i really really really recommend people playing with details off sometime

drowsy hatch
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Let's get a tricks argument rolling again

nimble vector
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your meter will be considerably lower when 5 mobs bolt you and no one in your group wants to press a button

quasi ingot
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Tricks of the Trade increases your dps by 3.2%

subtle tundra
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the moment i vanish garrote and shit doesnt get silenced, assa is dead to me

drowsy hatch
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and true for basically everyone

crimson zephyr
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with ilvl 622, what number should I get at the aoe puppets?

haughty flicker
subtle tundra
zenith coral
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i mean isnt iron wire the real reason assa pog? utility wise other 2 specs lacking

haughty flicker
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i guess i can just default to flaming healer

subtle tundra
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and at 620 1.2342 hundered bellion milliard million

normal mist
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WHO THE FUCK BROKE THE BOY AGAIN

pliant silo
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Recovered Mental - aka nihilism

drowsy hatch
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sorry dude I get 1.2% more dmg over trivializing half the current dungeons

balmy condor
zenith coral
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i would 1000x rather play outlaw but its such a throw 😦

crimson zephyr
zenith coral
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and prob my skill issue on assa

subtle tundra
nimble vector
cobalt sphinx
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Oh got it

subtle tundra
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literally a french guy got extremely high score playin outlaw

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a french guy

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wtf

zenith coral
balmy condor
pliant silo
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I can’t speak for outlaw, but a sub rogue would probably never get invited to anything above 10 without a fat io gap

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Assass is kinda free invites

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So that’s nice

waxen oyster
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fat ilvl gap

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dab on the sub 630 peasants

crimson zephyr
cerulean walrus
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Imagine not being 630 yet

subtle tundra
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idk what groups you go into

cerulean walrus
subtle tundra
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but nobody is checking spec

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bud

crimson zephyr
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do you just choose 6 bosses?

nimble vector
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just push your own key and tell people to fuck off if they complain about your spec baseg

waxen oyster
subtle tundra
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ive joined groups with UNHOLY DK

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in +14

ancient bridge
subtle tundra
arctic socket
cerulean walrus
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Brother

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Just do it

zenith coral
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6 boss for 5 mins > dungeonslice?

subtle tundra
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NO MAN

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NO

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THATS NOT WHAT I FUCKING SAID

wispy marsh
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The one thing keeping me from the 630 club

zenith coral
haughty flicker
crimson zephyr
balmy condor
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varas, embrace nihilism

thorn fjord
waxen oyster
wet tusk
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fellas, whats an ideal amount of crit atm? im sitting at about 10 100

waxen oyster
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at 632

cerulean walrus
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Also rocking a 619 cloak

zenith coral
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omggggg

wispy marsh
zenith coral
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a new onyx ring

hollow warren
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Can someone explain to me why it isn't a damage loss if we just keep envenom buff up outside of cooldowns instead of "spamming" envenoms?

zenith coral
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so grosss

waxen oyster
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i have multiple 619s actually

cerulean walrus
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Onyx Annulet 2?

zenith coral
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ye

cerulean walrus
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Oh fuck oh shit

wispy marsh
cerulean walrus
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Not again

strange python
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Hey guys, just looking at the WoWhead rotation and wondering if I've been having an absolute brainfart this whole time..........do we FOK to clear the witnesses every time CTW is up? Or just in the opener? Rotation guide suggests just in the opener then muti/envenom spam but I have FOK whenever the proc is up

zenith coral
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srsly they dont learn 😦

strange python
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assuming ST where we don't FOK anyway

waxen oyster
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cloak trinkets boots

drowsy hatch
waxen oyster
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not hard when your other slots are mostly 639

nimble vector
hollow warren
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Okay so I should outside of kingsbane/DM just keep the buff up and chill a bit right?

waxen oyster
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You kind of do what makes sense

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maintain dots

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dont overcap

hollow warren
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Cuz I actually have that problem that I run dry too much

cerulean walrus
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You do what you have the resources to do

drowsy hatch
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Yes if you spam you run dry

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So just maintain

waxen oyster
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tbh if you want to spam

drowsy hatch
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(in M+ ST)

waxen oyster
hollow warren
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Nah im just trying to understand things better at the core

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Not wanting to spam just trying to get a grasp of things

waxen oyster
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even in raid build you have occasional dry spells

drowsy hatch
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!design

prisma monolithBOT
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Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

  • No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
  • 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
  • You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
cerulean walrus
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Builder. Go watch porn or something idk. Spender. Builder. Pandemic time? Spender.

waxen oyster
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They're less common than in m+ though

drowsy hatch
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Yeah raid build its just harder to get to

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but its not infinite infinite

nimble vector
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you spam when you have the energy to do so, when you start dropping lower just try and pandemic your envenoms and maintain

ancient bridge
strange python
zenith coral
nimble vector
strange python
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sound

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thought so

hollow warren
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What should be a level of energy where i should start chilling more? At around half?

brazen breach
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Also youre an energy class, as long as youre not capping energy youre not actually loosing anything by just maintaining the buff. Youre getting in more optimal windows

nimble vector
waxen oyster
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fok is a better builder than mut with ctw and not talented into vv

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unless you want to hold it for an add spawn

spice spire
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Literally can’t spend enough

crimson zephyr
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let see

waxen oyster
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people really be picking

drowsy hatch
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Did you know rashananananana and I are related

waxen oyster
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random ass variables to sim

spice spire
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Sorry for killing your relative dog

drowsy hatch
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my priest adds another na to the name

spice spire
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Yet to drop the cloak tho kinda pissed about it

drowsy hatch
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so it's more obvious

spice spire
waxen oyster
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Yeah I only have a normal rash cloak

strange python
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Great, kind of what I assumed. The reason I ask is because there is me and a hard main sub rogue in the raid, hes rerolled sin and I have advised on a lot of the rotation / min-maxing / specifics etc. He's vastly improve and is now often just ahead of me in DPS, despite most raids I remember another nugget to share with him that hes not been doing. This is definitely not a WTF is going wrong, its just I'm teaching him how to optimise, but he has often been ahead of me without the finer elements down. Really struggling as to WTH I'm missing haha, come to the conclusion that hes the superior rogue and just better at implementing what I thought i was already doing!

waxen oyster
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You guys post dps stuff with a co rogue?

haughty flicker
waxen oyster
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We just post cat memes

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and shitpost

grave frost
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
strange python
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IDC, I just want to improve, and help where I can haah

waxen oyster
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moment

spice spire
desert vault
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There any videos that explain about how TTK and stuff works overlapping and such? I get the general idea, justn wanted to watch something in a bit more detail perhaps

slate crown
waxen oyster
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it works like ironfur

slate crown
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fill up my WAs with PAVs

zenith coral
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whispyr 11.0.5 vid

balmy condor
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and he just goes

zenith coral
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has a picture breakdown of ttk

balmy condor
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"yeah I saw that when I read wowhead, already doing that"

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and I go oh

haughty flicker
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lmao

spice spire
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Unfortunately my corogue is a stinky outlaw player

nimble vector
haughty flicker
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meanwhile my interaction with anyone whos playing the same spec as me is to just change my details name to theirs to confuse people

waxen oyster
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except sub is cringe

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in modern day

crimson zephyr
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okay so I simmed with 5 bosses on target dummy for 4 min ( https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fUAMDnj6ExtQQtDjGBzXJr ) and I make 30% of the sim target at the dummies xD xD Here's what I do:

I open with ambush for darkest night proc. I spam garrote and rupture twice (I know I waste CP here) then crimson, then muti for spatter then basically fok envenom and keeping crimson and spatter up. Also keeping an eye on the whole darkest night thing and keeping that up. envenom with 5cp / 7cp

Is there anything big wrong with that?

waxen oyster
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but still get stuck playing it sometimes

strange python
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Yeah @balmy condor this for sure isn't a.....somethings missing from WoWhead, as thats where I have got 95% of my information, and have susbequently passed on.....its just fact checking my understanding really

zenith coral
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they shouldve never changed sub 😦

strange python
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Maybe im just an old guy that cant quite get the hang but gets the principle haha

spice spire
nimble vector
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depends on the boss too I guess, if he's just padding on adds better or whether he's consistently doing more ST damage on princess is a bit different

waxen oyster
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i like when sikran dies

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right as my vanish comes back

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:)))))

balmy condor
haughty flicker
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lmao

waxen oyster
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i also apparently suck ass at padding on ulg and bloodbound

strong wing
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
waxen oyster
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comparing boss dam to overall like-

nimble vector
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padding on ulgrax tiredSMILERS

gritty laurel
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bloodbound padding is just taking caustic spatter and focusing the moving add, no?

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get that boss damage

strange python
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In general, we are very close - we both definitely make mistakes from pull to pull, and each edges it from time to time. Fight timing etc. heavily comes into play which I understand.....but hes not got skardyns and I do (imagine this gonna be big when he gets it) and without the "optimal" rotation he still bangs just ahead often times

waxen oyster
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Yeah until you get assigned to the solo add

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in uganda

nimble vector
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bloodbound padding isn't real, the adds actually need to die

gritty laurel
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caustic will still hit him in that scenario

waxen oyster
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Isn't the optimal way for ulgrax dam

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to not soak

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since the soaks seemingly are always during cds

nimble vector
#

well the optimal way for every boss is to not do any mechanics

waxen oyster
#

🤔

balmy condor
strange python
#

I think consistency is the big one....guess thats where hes dialled. Ultimately I think we are both about there, just wanted to make sure I was fully understanding whats going on and also make sure Im not passing on duff information

static glacier
#

anyone have a mdt profile or wa that helps timing cloak for avoiding queensbane on kyveza?

waxen oyster
#

well i meant specifically on those two it seems

#

the soak comes up right as kb comes back

gritty laurel
#

cloak the big wave on BB for extra deeps

waxen oyster
#

ig you hold kb if you're being ethical?

#

and actually do the soak

nimble vector
strong wing
strong wing
#

ups sorry for the @

static glacier
#

you have to cloak within 1s of it hitting

nimble vector
balmy condor
#

^

strong wing
static glacier
#

it's the same shit as 1st boss necrotic wake frontal

strong wing
#

xD

waxen oyster
#

Don't you just cloak

#

before the charge hits

#

and it should avoid

nimble vector
static glacier
#

its 1s no?

nimble vector
#

it's not a special thing

balmy condor
#

no

#

it just works

static glacier
#

OH MY GOD

#

IM SUCH A DOG BIG DOG

waxen oyster
#

I mean i've cloaked as soon as i got to my charge spot

#

and i never get debuff

tacit otter
nimble vector
#

if you don't, you won't

deft vault
#

Whats the best way to farm valorstone nowadays?

nimble vector
#

don't bother man please don't do that to yourself

buoyant mauve
#

anyone got a macro they could share that kicks the nearest worm on ovi so I can just stand near my assigned one and kick /wo having to mouseover or swap targets?

waxen oyster
#

But then there's the dispute about whether cloaking the charge

gritty laurel
#

worldsoul memories for stone is pretty fast if you have the thingies from delves

waxen oyster
#

or cloaking intermission is better

static glacier
nimble vector
static glacier
gritty laurel
crimson zephyr
#

can I tell details to now show the dmg window on puppets?

static glacier
#

intermission is chill, elusiveness + evasion + 2x feint covers it

balmy condor
static glacier
#

and i can be quick to fix scuffed end of intermission lines

balmy condor
#

for one specific setup

deft vault
balmy condor
#

for one specific person

prime forum
#

guys, anyone else got the problem pulling packs and bosses in m+ because of "singular focus"?

waxen oyster
#

intermission cloak is mostly in the off case that the lines are REALLY bad

#

in one set

nimble vector
zenith coral
#

wait so we go mechagnome now?

#

kekw

static glacier
buoyant mauve
sudden swan
static glacier
#

also have em clear low difficulty raids

waxen oyster
#

yeah wait

#

wasnt mandate transmitter

#

some wf tech shit

strong wing
#

Btw today wow its unplayable in raid

nimble vector
waxen oyster
#

Its not even the same boss now

strong wing
#

the lag we are having in ovinax is crazy

nimble vector
#

which also means you may be out of range for half your KB if you get a dash

#

but it is what it is

balmy condor
waxen oyster
#

just play outlaw and get ace resets

#

on your dash

#

jk thats gamba as shi

sudden swan
gritty laurel
#

but then i'd have to play outlaw wtf

balmy condor
#

I told exile to transmitter prepull to move the mandate back far enough to get an additional cast during enrage

#

cause they were playing on enrage margin

waxen oyster
#

that spec is prob a cozy time in terms of tankiness

#

feint perma up

balmy condor
#

and then on kill he didn't even get the cast off, they killed while exile was mid cast

waxen oyster
#

with elu

balmy condor
nimble vector
balmy condor
#

skill issue frfr

nimble vector
#

I did it on the rekill though very pog very nice

balmy condor
#

sims didn't have you dying mister

#

maybe I just code in a 9 second death timer randomly in the middle

nimble vector
balmy condor
real pike
#

could I ask for some advice please, so deciding between dagger and legs from vault, currently the only rogue in the guild so if a dagger drops it's mine, we reclear 4/8 weekly, legs is the play right?

crimson zephyr
#

in an m+ build deathstalker - can someone explain to me how deathmark and kingsbane play into it?

balmy condor
#

probably leg yeah

static glacier
#

it sounds like legs in generral but doubly so if they're high ilvl

waxen oyster
real pike
#

both 623

nimble vector
waxen oyster
#

so its a wait for drops angle

nimble vector
crimson zephyr
#

they are very single target no?

static glacier
#

well depends, legs from 1st boss are more common than dagger but gota use catalyst / otherrs might need

waxen oyster
#

true true

static glacier
#

id say go legs and chill

real pike
#

I mean I could wait until reclear next weds but nice to push everything for prog on Sunday

nimble vector
real pike
#

ok guess legs is the play thx everyone

radiant sorrel
#

So BIG question. On my rogue which I play since Legion I am rolling under 20 on good items and above 80 things I don't need... Question is: "Is the char cursed ? And should I delete it?" I am rly close to swapping to another rogue 😄

torpid lion
#

Yes swap

red wolf
#

yeah delete it

uneven marsh
#

you are playing rogue, you are cursed already by design

balmy condor
#

💀

#

what did I just read bro

radiant sorrel
#

It is genuine question ngl

torpid lion
#

Man I was a 99 parser rogue but ever since the changes in a 95 parser

#

I must be messing up my opening

drowsy hatch
#

sorry bro i guess the class isnt for you anymore

cinder steppe
#

can you pre cloak the webs in rashanan?

radiant sorrel
balmy condor
spice spire
radiant sorrel
crimson zephyr
spice spire
#

So you’re not against 590 rats from week one anymore

#

It’s all current characters

heady plaza
#

Guys is it worth using 2x supercharger and forced induction in raid or stick with 2x lethality/1x supercharger?

nimble vector
lethal arrow
#

and cleaving everything else

balmy condor
#

forced induction might be slightly better depending on the fight

valid kindle
#

Is it still possible to kill a healer while maintaining stun lock on him?

crimson zephyr
heady plaza
#

forced induction sims 10k more for me thats why i asked

valid kindle
#

I havent played rogoue since legion

radiant sorrel
#

Who da fuq knows

spice spire
#

I mean

#

I gave the answer

karmic fog
#

where can i find updated specs for m+ ?

radiant sorrel
spice spire
cinder steppe
#

can you pre cloak the webs in rashanan?

radiant sorrel
#

try

karmic fog
drowsy hatch
#

checka da pins

radiant sorrel
#

That is new

#

what specificly you need

nimble vector
spice spire
#

The 5% ma nerf changed nothing

heady plaza
spice spire
#

Move forward

#

Same shit

#

But we still have 15 builds that are viable so it’s kinda whatever

balmy condor
#

guys where can I find updated specs for m+

tough widget
#

do you sim dungeon slice, or patchwerk 5 bosses?

balmy condor
#

all the guides say updated 10/29

#

do these guide writers just like

#

not care

#

slackers

spice spire
spice spire
tough widget
#

is fine or is good

balmy condor
#

it's actually already the 31st in east europe, and the guides still say 10/29

frank axle
#

!wa

balmy condor
#

TWO DAYS?

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
#

insane

nimble vector
#

the passion is gone

#

time to step down old man

lethal arrow
#

we should kill them

balmy condor
#

put me down

#

it's joever

cinder steppe
#

okay just to confirm you cant pre cloak the webs kekw

lethal arrow
#

how dare they

quasi ingot
#

WTB new WoWHead writer with 4 Rank 1 titles

cinder steppe
#

5 tries i a row with first webs despair

uneven marsh
#

I mean he is working on the 11.0.5 video, give him some time PogO

spice spire
#

There’s no absolute answer on what to sim. They’re just models to compare gear/builds. dungeon slice is middle of the road: if you’re looking for an aoe build do 10t, 8t whatever, if you wanna know boss damage just do 1t. There’s no exact answer for m+ simming it’s not going to spit out a number and you say “that’s what my dps should be” but it’ll give you the build changes and differences you need

lethal arrow
#

and say oops

spice spire
cinder steppe
spice spire
cinder steppe
random sandal
#

even this week no dagger drop should i craft or wait 1 more wait for myth ?

spice spire
uneven marsh
#

oh yeah totally forgot about that shit

#

inbefore he's getting crazy again with the new onyx thingy

nimble vector
spice spire
#

I see

rancid berry
#

In M+ when only running one charge of Shiv, should it always be held for the end of KB rather than sending together?

nimble vector
#

no point crafting offhand

radiant sorrel
#

I am gonna craft

random sandal
#

should i craft wrist ?

#

or keep haste mastery one

radiant sorrel
#

sim it

nimble vector
#

that's a myth track skardyn's?

random sandal
#

ya

#

got it this week

nimble vector
#

I would imagine upgrading that is your biggest gain

spice spire
nimble vector
#

it's basically not worth crafting anything outside of your 2 embellishment slots, upgrading myth track items is a more efficient use of crests

radiant sorrel
#

I mean if the FUCKING dagger doesnt drop

spice spire
#

Uggz is doing gods work today god bless

nimble vector
# random sandal Ty legend 🫡

you can sim that on raidbots though, just paste your string into top gear, click the little "+" next to the items you can upgrade and select their upgrade tiers, press everything you could upgrade and press sim, it will only upgrade things you can afford

nimble vector
radiant sorrel
#

and I am fully upgraded now outside of my wrists that are 619 crafted

spice spire
#

Glad to have ya bud

radiant sorrel
#

the fucking game has 2 more weeks. Next week I upgrade wrists and after that I do dagger

#

if I dont end my life before that

quasi ingot
spice spire
mystic crest
#

is not that deep bro its just a game

spice spire
#

It’ll be okay it’s just the dagger

nimble vector
#

the offhand is a very small amount of dps it isn't important

spice spire
#

Life is beautiful and don’t ever do that over some silly pixels. Ik you’re being hyperbolic but still

haughty flicker
vestal sapphire
#

Piece of shit ret player coming to assa rogue. How long do I get hazed for?

mystic crest
#

forever

spice spire
#

Welcome

#

Hope you enjoy the class

vestal sapphire
#

…what if that’s why I switched…

spice spire
#

Because you wanna be hazed or

vestal sapphire
#

👀

quasi ingot
#

ret players cant enjoy more than 3 button rotations

mystic crest
#

roll hunter if ya wanna be hazed

haughty flicker
#

yes because sin has so many buttons

vestal sapphire
#

Oh I’m still playing it with 3 buttons

left sage
#

Hey guys, im new to the assa rogue, can u tell me do i need to apply and manage Crimson Tempest in single target in m+, im playing DeathStalker

spice spire
#

Mf seek help ICANT
(I know this is a joke)

vestal sapphire
#

😂

icy mantle
#

guyss, wich talents for m+ after nerf ?

iron carbon
spice spire
#

Same exact talents

#

Nothing changed

radiant sorrel
#

You actually made me check my dagger and it is actually mast/vers from my sub times 😄

spice spire
#

Glhf

drowsy hatch
#

thank god they added wake of ashes to assa

spiral quest
#

should we reroll after nerf?

drowsy hatch
#

would be hard in aoe if not

coral ibex
#

yes reroll enhance

drowsy hatch
vestal sapphire
#

It’s called wake of assa’s

quasi ingot
#

i prefer to call mine Wake of Sin's

radiant sorrel
#

Wake of Ass's

left sage
drowsy hatch
#

funny my friends call me wake of ass but im not sure why

coral ibex
#

CT on 2 or more

quasi ingot
left sage
#

And one more question, i read IV guide and seems like our stats is close one to another but bis is pretty much without haste, and im starving a lot without energy in M+ builds on single target do i need just chill and just autoattack sometimes?

cloud crown
#

I have 639 transmitter and Sacbrood, should I pick Skardyn? sim's pick is head

spice spire
#

I’ll be here all night

quasi ingot
spice spire
drowsy hatch
#

!design

prisma monolithBOT
#

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

  • No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
  • 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
  • You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
quasi ingot
#

guys...im 35. is that too old to shop at Zumiez?

mystic crest
#

yea

spice spire
#

Just because it’s kinda the rare drop where you can get a myth head pretty regularly

quasi ingot
#

LMFAO

spice spire
#

Solid vault tho

spice spire
mystic crest
#

skate shop

quasi ingot
#

what if im an ex skater/bmxer? still to old / uncool?

vestal sapphire
#

Yes time to shop at Costco

haughty flicker
#

depends, are you tony hawk

spice spire
#

Enjoy what you enjoy who cares about being too old

radiant sorrel
viral plume
#

Is this correct for Apm list for both sin hero specs ?

quasi ingot
spice spire
#

Had to clarify that one

vestal sapphire
spice spire
viral plume
quasi ingot
#

@vestal sapphire already trying to switch back to his ret pala

vestal sapphire
#

Look he’s a Prot pala now…

drowsy hatch
#

I add some Fkeys into my rotation to up the apm but yeah that seems accurate

quasi ingot
spice spire
#

That explains the swap

#

I wouldn’t wanna tank either

crimson zephyr
#

a trinket with cast time? 😮

spice spire
#

Quakethree has a uh.
Reputation SmileDog

spice spire
viral plume
#

Prot Pally has highest apm score of 88

haughty flicker
#

wait whats going on with sub, is the profile borked or something

quasi ingot
#

prot pala throws shield and everybody is quiet

vestal sapphire
#

Honestly was just boring couldn’t really do much more with it.

Tanking is fun I enjoy it actually swapped from Prot to ret but he’s back to Prot looking for a more challenging dps spec 🥲

spice spire
viral plume
#

Someone not been sumbitting API for Sub

haughty flicker
#

seems accurate yup

drowsy hatch
#

I would guess it's freaking out with losing shadowdust

spice spire
#

Real

icy mantle
balmy condor
#

yeh

#

I don't think we've submitted profiles for 11.0.5

#

probably should get around to that

sacred cedar
#

WorryReview so with thistle tea should i just be using it when i need it or just let the passive handle it

balmy condor
#

yes

#

macro and forget it

sacred cedar
#

MareloSeemsGood ok thanks

spice spire
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
quasi ingot
#

we take that in all aspects of life correct?

#

the tea macro that is

balmy condor
#

yes

quasi ingot
#

say less

spice spire
#

Less

balmy condor
#

less

quasi ingot
#

ty

waxen harbor
#

Hi. Why does the APL use Thistle Tea after sending Kingsbane, and not directly before it -- immediately after Shiv? I see on top logs they're sending it before-hand -- why? Does it matter? Thanks.

balmy condor
#

doesn't matter

#

sims check for shiv

waxen harbor
#

ty

crimson zephyr
#

okay I think I fixed my dmg issue at least on puppets to a big degree - thanks - still shit though 😛

quasi ingot
#

i think im calling in the next two days of work. gonna work on my rogue skills and start my weekend early.

spice spire
#

(I haven’t seen those logs)

strange python
quasi ingot
spice spire
#

I’m almost certainly wrong

#

I’m wrong very often

#

That’s okay

real pike
#

are you guys running an amber gem for the special effect or not bothering?

spice spire
quasi ingot
#

you are not wrong. im TELLING YOU ! I know the guy!

old sequoia
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
icy mantle
#

!talents

shut wave
#

Guys, do u usually run droptimizer in raidbiots every time u get the best performing item from the last time u ran it? haha
I don't quite get how it works

quasi ingot
#

top gear

pure moth
#

You'd run top gear with a new /simc. Use droptimizer to find the pieces you should aim for getting.

shut wave
#

so idea idea would be, running droptimizer once maybe for dungeons, get some of those items,
then run top gear to find out if you actually benefict from them right now, correcto?

uneven marsh
#

every time you get a piece of loot, sim it with top gear

#

every vault, sim it with top gear

#

besides that run a droptimizer or a stat weight just once in a while to see what is off or what item to target

clever socket
#

Do you guys track poisons on nameplates? Or what is the useful debuff to track on the nameplates other than rupture/garrote ?

shut wave
#

ok, and about droptimizer
do u have any idea why wouldn't droptimizer recommend me the boralus trinket, the spyglass one? It's supposed to be BiS for assass.

left sage
#

Is there macro for Shadowstep+kick that works on mouseover and need to be pressed once?

prisma monolithBOT
daring imp
#

any softcaps we should know about?

clever socket
uneven marsh
#

only my rogue use his profile

#

my warrior use jundies

old sequoia
#

any idea why sometimes my marks dont get consumed?

uneven marsh
old sequoia
#

itll just sit at the same # of stacks for multiple 5+ usages and then eventually it just starts consuming

worldly sail
uneven marsh
#

is the spending on the targeted mark?

old sequoia
#

ive seen it where darkest night wasnt up, and yes it's on the marked target

#

im assuming it's just a bug with threatplates

#

but i think ive seen it on the default target frame too

pine garnet
#

Link to current raid and key talent builds now?

uneven marsh
old sequoia
#

i thought skardyn was?

thin dock
#

guys is alchemical chaos always the way to go?

#

given that you pot in keys?

cobalt sphinx
#

Because bis lists are content engagement that farm clicks

#

Just get skardyns/transmitter + literally anything

#

Delve trinkets, spyglass, arakara, anubikkaj it’s all the same shit

#

They’re budgeted the exact same on their ppm so it barely matters what you use

#

Just ask raidbots and sim for the content you are doing

bronze dune
#

Do people hold CDs before a boss mechanic that might mean they wont be able to take advantage of the entire duration?

cobalt sphinx
#

yes you can look at lorrgs for timings

#

timings on top logs

bronze dune
#

Yeah I was looking at the Rash logs, but most of the top logs just blast at the start

nimble vector
nimble vector
bronze dune
#

Yeah that was me last night, but I guess its just luck

worldly sail
#

blast and if you get web, edge as close as possible Sinscheme

bronze dune
#

first web we send to back so I cant edge that unfortunately

nimble vector
#

we sent web people all the way to the back to be safe when we first pulled it and never stopped NOOO

bronze dune
#

but yeah, just is what it is

cobalt sphinx
#

dang yo

#

yall need to swap up the strat

worldly sail
#

we say "back right" which means the warriors just go right and keep hugging boss EvilStare

bronze dune
#

Biggest difference I can see in my logs is im losing dps on envenom

#

about 100k diff

lime echo
#

!design

prisma monolithBOT
#

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

  • No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
  • 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
  • You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
worldly sail
#

i picked caustic spatter on rash tonight, actual giga scam useless ass talent on that boss

uneven marsh
#

adds not close enough

nimble vector
#

yeah the adds need to be right under the boss to get hit by it, and also everyone in the world wants to explode those adds

wispy marsh
worldly sail
#

internal bleeding would have been like 1.8%, caustic spatter did 0.3% of my damage

nimble vector
zenith coral
#

so a 626 transmitter is better than 606 skardyns?

cobalt sphinx
#

probably if you don't consider the headache to be a dps loss

zenith coral
#

i simmed and skardyns was better but just weird to see that idk

cloud yew
#

no iron wire good?

cobalt sphinx
#

maybe not then

desert vault
#

!tea

prisma monolithBOT
#

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null
bronze dune
#

Does Deathmark duplicate the bleeds applied before or after you cast it?

cobalt sphinx
#

both

tired gull
#

it's dynamic

bronze dune
#

So should I reapply garrote and rupture before DM falls off?

nimble vector
#

no

#

it doesn't snapshot

bronze dune
#

right

#

Also, if WowAnalyzer an accurate tool? Or not worth using?

spice surge
#

Its unfortunately not maintained for rogues

bronze dune
#

damn

cobalt sphinx
#

been a pretty bad resource every time i've seen it for every class i've played

#

i like the idea though

spice surge
#

Its a lot of work to maintain it

#

But when it was working during ~aberrus for assa it was really good

haughty flicker
#

yeah when its up to date for the spec it can be super useful, but i dont even want to think about the amount of work it would take to keep it up to date

balmy condor
#

For free as well

cinder shoal
#

Are there any good resources for log analyses? So used to warrior discord where you can just chuck a log at em and they'll dissect it

dapper cradle
#

how do you not lose DM on ulgrax intermission

hardy prairie
#

for raid do we use fan of knives for anything with 2+ targets? like for council or on brood when just the big spiders are up

dapper cradle
#

just save vanish for intermission and reapply on ads?

surreal aurora
#

How does the new supercharge work? I don’t see any glowing combo points of buffs or anything. Am i missing something?

cobalt sphinx
rotund idol
spice surge
rotund idol
#

It’s on the cp itself

spice surge
#

Its not tied to any specific CP at all anymore

rotund idol
#

If you go back to default bliz ui you can see it

cobalt sphinx
#

isn't that just an indicator

rotund idol
#

Indicator yeah

cobalt sphinx
#

that you have it

rotund idol
#

It’s not on a specific cp

cobalt sphinx
surreal aurora
#

So no glowing combo points or buff. Next spender just do more damage. Shouldn’t it be under like buffs or something?

thorn fjord
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
slate crown
spice surge
#

Youre likely just using a weakaura pack that doesnt have it

rotund idol
#

You don’t really need to track though I’m sure you remember when you cast shiv

spice surge
#

^ Ye that too, its not necessary to track it

#

But it can be done via weakauras, just not via a traditional buff

surreal aurora
#

Hmm. I’m getting a bit confused here. I haven’t noticed an animation for it either

slate crown
#

There isn't one

ionic fox
#

Wait so if I cast Mutilate after shiv thats bad yea?

spice surge
#

No, casting mutilate is fine

haughty flicker
#

they took all the cool er stuff and got rid of it besad

ionic fox
#

ahh kk