assassination

[crimson current]

the game isnt about dps

[royal lantern]

toxic

[real granite]

to read this chat in the other screen

[royal lantern]

^

[dusty crescent]

tank overpulls wipes everyone then leaves blaming healer is 98/100 reasons

[cunning basin]

Guilty conscience? 🤔(I do it too)

[vast patio]

I've seen demo chat, this chat cannot harm me

[hollow river]

I’m not it feels like they dumpster some specs while sprinkling light nerfs on others

[dusty crescent]

priest chat has to be most degenerate, I'm guessing ofc

[dim mural]

Just starting to play healer alt I feel this.

[marble hemlock]

ret and dh

would like to have a word

[royal lantern]

interupt mistakes

missmanagment of deff cds

missmanagment of healing cds

focusing the wrong target

careless fight mechanic mistakes

thats the 5 things that brick 99% of keys

[crimson current]

i never saw any other discord chat

even when i mained ww monk

never joined the discord

this is my first one

[severe canyon]

why do i energy starve spamming envenoms? 😦

[brave vector]

The most recent changes to certain classes has not been unnecessary, elemental shamans after 11.0.5 basically counted as 3 dps on their own. They fixed a bug and turns out they were still just that much stronger than everyone else. If the game is tuned around a baseline that some people are performing above you don’t just buff everyone else to match them. That invalidates the content altogether

[dusty crescent]

well i was making a joke, you're out here using logic

sheesh

[dusty crescent]

oh boy i'll have to take a gander

[vast patio]

Wait is vanishing to reapply aoe Garrotes bad lol

[dusty crescent]

everyone should do exactly 1million dps played correctly

no difference in anything

[dusty crescent]

i've done this so i don't target switch off my caustic target

[marble hemlock]

vanish is an incredibly useful utility CD and a not so great aoe cd. its a bit stronger for DPS now with subterfuge+MA, but its still just DPS

more often than not, youd like to have vanish available for a bad chain or to stop some casts when everything else is on CD

[brave vector]

That could happen and you would still see Reddit and the bnet forums filled with doomers talking about how their spec sucks and X spec is so much better because they can do Y

[cunning basin]

Usually yes. Vanish can be a lot of things in keys so using it for DPS is usually a bad thing. I use it mainly as a tool to reapply iron wire/or as a defensive for certain scary mechanics

[royal lantern]

dh and ret have the highest amount of actually big fucking idiots

mage discord is like traveling into a alternate dimension where mage is bottom dps on all 3 specs all the time and mage is just the weakest class with no redeeming qualitys

druid discord has 2 good channels, and the resto/boomkin channels that you avoid at all costs

warlock discord is a meme

[spice spire]

George is mine

[marble hemlock]

a bit of extra DPS aint timing a key where everyone overlaps their stuns and interrupts. silencing with garrotes does.

a bit of extra DPS aint gonna make the pack die much faster, but getting a proper stealth opener in a bad chain will.

[spice spire]

Love that idiot

[dusty crescent]

Possibly, but their arguments would be only about utility cds at that point

[cunning basin]

Stop reading my mind LMAO

[crimson current]

vanish for bad chain is actually for pugs

[marble hemlock]

m+ is all about consistency and not having really good and really bad pulls

[crimson current]

with comms, u can use it for dps depending on the pack

[vast patio]

See that's how I use it, bad chain lol

[crimson current]

sometimes theres mechanics u can avoid with vanish

[dusty crescent]

i'm about to join hella class discords lmao... I have a boomkin i'm gearing and yeah i get the mage thing, they're always "awful"

[crimson current]

so its good to have it

[quaint depot]

Every pug tank chain pulls the entire dungeon

It's awful

[vast patio]

Warrior discord was surprisingly chill

[marble hemlock]

i reckon the difference between using vanish for DPS on cd, and not using it a single time in a 30min key, is probably less than 10sec gained on the timer

[crimson current]

in pugs i almost never use vanish for dps

cause of bad chain

[quaint depot]

I actually made a macro to put "desperate for a restealth" in party chat

[dusty crescent]

having 2 charges is fun whee

[dusty crescent]

i like when i can't restealth

[cunning basin]

There's certain places you really want to have vanish, corruptors in GB and mini bosses in dawnbreaker since it negates things that would probably kill you

[little tulip]

yeah just to get some extra energy or 3 combo points on 1st deathmark if it's a boss

[dim mural]

Considering how Veng DH players are in game I can only imagine their discord.. I'm too afraid to look

[severe canyon]

Anyone knows why I energy starve on envenom spam? Which Ive understood is the key ability to ST dps

[quaint depot]

It's almost like silencing entire packs for 6+ seconds is good

[vast patio]

Rolling a veng dh in df s3 made me hate dh players

[fresh kelp]

The mini bosses in DB recast

[cunning basin]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[royal lantern]

like

if you wanna know how stupid ret discord and its players are

3 weeks into TWW they nerfed something for Holy paladin

the ret channel was convinced for HOURS that this was a Ret nerf (ret doesnt even have the nerfed ability avaible in the first place)

they just saw "paladin->nerf" and complained that its a ret nerf

[crimson current]

with subt you silence even more

[brave vector]

There’s no difference between homogenization of dps and utility to me. I think they’re both bad for the game. High utility? Sorry you should do less dps. Tons of damage, alright we gotta take some stuff away. The biggest problem in the game right now is shaman imo. All 3 shaman specs rip, and they literally only need to take 3 points for two of the best AoE stops in the game, if not the best AoE stops in the game, and an AoE poison cleanse

[dusty crescent]

what is by far the worst cesspit for classdiscord i wanna go there

[cunning basin]

Yeah on someone else

[royal lantern]

#assassination

[crimson current]

i mean, i prio the utility before dps usually

[dusty crescent]

that is amazing

[crimson current]

so while subt is up, i perma silence

[slate crown]

don't lie to me

[crimson current]

but tanks dont like 15% reduced damage and silence

[dusty crescent]

the stun totem is pretty fucking cash, i'll agree with you there

[crimson current]

impressive

[dusty crescent]

shaman is pretty fucking sexy rn

[vast patio]

I will say I like the subt/ma build a lot more than the other one

More comfort

[crimson current]

i need to try the byuild someone sent earlier

[dusty crescent]

not nearly enough feet for this cod to be that bad

[crimson current]

but i dont think i will like dropping sudden demise and sanguine blades

[vast patio]

Didn't they buff the cringe emissary affix

I forgot what they addrd

[crimson current]

they added 90s

[acoustic pendant]

is there any command for log review ?

[cunning basin]

The build that drops SB and SD for ttk and MA kinda cranks

[brave vector]

A halfway decent shaman that actually uses all their buttons can carry a shitty pug through a 10 like no other class can

[severe canyon]

welp, with new twist the knife it feels like you wanna uptime 2 stacks no?

[royal lantern]

that entire desicion is such a mindblow lol

like, what are even doing there

[calm grail]

What does this even mean? I need to optimize based on the .05 difference between MA and TTK etc etc etc. Forget that I often have downtime or make poor choices. The perfect talent setup is how I'll ascend.

[cunning basin]

That's what I've been rocking

[acoustic pendant]

!log

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[crimson current]

so, im with MA, TTK, SB and SD

but dropped sbs for it

[vast patio]

The extra stat they added I mean

I forgot what it was lol

[cunning basin]

Oh no I can't stand not having sbs in keys now

[quaint depot]

What should be our top dmg in a m+ overall?

[cunning basin]

The accelerated opener is such a godsend

[crimson current]

spatter and ct

[quaint depot]

Okay, I assumed so

[spice spire]

Wowa is not up to date, can post logs

Speaking of which

[crimson current]

yea

[cunning basin]

Usually spatter and envenom end up on top

[crimson current]

thats what i miss from sbs

[quaint depot]

I made my weak aura make a panther noise when my spatter is about to fall off snd now it's 1 or 2 lmao

[cunning basin]

CT usually third but maybe I just suck kek

[crimson current]

thats the reason i will try to drop SD and SB

to get it back

but idk

[vast patio]

Bone spike was the best covenant power and I will not be convinced otherwise

[crimson current]

i just get yused to play without sbs already

[ember topaz]

I'm dumb, what's spatter?

[crimson current]

in higher keys i dont mind opening a little slower

[cunning basin]

It's so worth, I tried the build without sbs but I just like could not. Some of the smaller pulls where fok can't really generate a lot were miserable

[brave vector]

Caustic spatter

[quaint depot]

Caustic spatter. It's a.massive aoe posion applied when you mutilate a ruptured target

[crimson current]

caustic spatter

[dusty crescent]

hunter kyrian arrow that let you shoot through fucking walls was GOATED and you can't convince me other wise SIR

[acoustic pendant]

just did a Dawnbreaker 15 and i have no idea why i dont deal as much dmg as the good players XD. Wowanalyzer might tell me something i dont know

[quaint depot]

So basically when 2+ targets you need to mutilate once every 10 seconds

[brave vector]

Yeah but that one sepsis power in torghast that let you one shot any wing boss with adds though

[crimson current]

mutilate your rupture prio and u will do massive aoe

[ember topaz]

my spatter is caustic spatter is extremly low, what am i doing wrong then? Not enough envenoms?

[spice spire]

Oh yeah I’m not reviewing keys on mobile

[crimson current]

yea, i will try it

[spice spire]

Miss me w that

[cunning basin]

I didn't care for it as a power but the passive version is sick.

I was a flagellation enjoyer and I am not sorry :p

[brave vector]

Probably not keeping it up

[spice spire]

Are you weaving in your mutilayes

[dusty crescent]

Kyrian arrow was superior and ya'll have amnesia

[spice spire]

Delete this nephew

[crimson current]

track your prio

need to maintain rupture and mutilating every 10s

[slate crown]

what is this week spark or catalyst?

[quaint depot]

You need to be mutilating a ruptured target evey 10 seconds. So mostly fan of knives but every 10 seconds 1 mutilate

[vast patio]

If we're talking overall I think it goes to either pwave, convoke or slappy hands

[cunning basin]

Wasn't that shit like crazy in arenas or something?

[crimson current]

isnt it both?

[dusty crescent]

literally the reason why someone won a MDI

[vast patio]

Though I loved bone spike

[dusty crescent]

it was so broken dude

[gritty laurel]

spark and catalyst are paired this patch, i think it's off week

[ember topaz]

Is there a good WA for this?

[crimson current]

yea this is week off actually

[slate crown]

damn k

[drowsy hatch]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[dusty crescent]

almost full killing a pack through a wall where they can't even cast was goated in uhhh manor

[crimson current]

ig one of this WA should have it

i dont use them

but i have the track on the one i use

[nova aspen]

t minus 4 minutes

[quaint depot]

Get a plater profile that shows prio targets

[slate crown]

All of them have a caustic tracker

[crimson current]

^

so its fine

[dusty crescent]

?

[vast patio]

Mythic skardyn in vault #surely

[crimson current]

but you just need to know that you rupture and mutilate your target

[fresh kelp]

The hunt isn’t super impactful but it is one of my favourite

[cunning basin]

Manifesting for u bestie

[arctic socket]

Vault pic soon guys

[crimson current]

so spatter will be up

[arctic socket]

Woot woot

[crimson current]

gl on your vaults

[nova aspen]

until vault

[crimson current]

i got mine on week 1 of m+

pretty lucky

[cunning basin]

As a hots illidan enjoyer I was very happy when I saw the hunt

[dusty crescent]

word?

[quaint depot]

2nd week playing my assa rogue, 3 mythic slots, wish me luck

[brave vector]

I just have a giant mutilate icon that appears in the middle of my screen when I’m in combat with 2+ enemies and my current target has rupture but no spatter up. Says mutilate nub on it

[royal lantern]

now you jinxed it, gz

[dusty crescent]

115 runs of gb from normal to heroic to mythic 0s to mythic +

before i got it

[cunning basin]

I did 44 GB 7-10 last week to get skardyn's for our fucking ky'veza kill lmao

And ended up dying at the end to queensbane with no CDs up x.x

[crimson current]

i think i did like 30 runs max until today lol

[dusty crescent]

lol

[dusty crescent]

i wish

[vast patio]

Shaman got it first try, rogue is still grinding

[crimson current]

i got it pretty fast even hero and myth

[dusty crescent]

my skardyns is 626

i'm content

we chillin now

[vast patio]

I swear gb cloaks are weighted drops

Convince me otherwise

[dusty crescent]

tfw when you have to loot spec outlaw for 1 less shit piece of gear from gb you don't want

[vast patio]

3 rings to choose from yet never the one you want

[dusty crescent]

most reactions to a comment I've ever had. I feel accomplished today

[cunning basin]

I love reacting to people's posts lmao

[dusty crescent]

a 626 queen ring will be okay with me my rings are champ 619s

[cunning basin]

I got all these damn emotes I gotta use em

[vast patio]

Queen drops have been troll for me 😦

[faint vessel]

!

[cunning basin]

[vast patio]

Pog

[fluid dagger]

beard!

[faint vessel]

IM DONE WITH GRIM BATOL

[dusty crescent]

only 33k outlaw rogues doing keys lol

[faint vessel]

PRAISE THEE

[cunning basin]

LET'S GO

[dusty crescent]

TIME TO REMOTE TO MY HOME PC

check the vault wish me luck gusy

[little tulip]

dud vault sigh

[dusty crescent]

guys

[vast patio]

Sac baby

[crimson current]

dont use it in m+

[dusty crescent]

i was lied to

[crimson current]

need to sim

[dusty crescent]

not cool bro

[void crow]

do we use mad queen's mandate

or is that troll

[severe canyon]

Im still clueless about how to utilize new twist the knife talent ._.

[faint vessel]

hit envenom

then hit it again and then do it again

[severe canyon]

and then no energy

[dusty crescent]

no energy

in st

[strange python]

what do i take

[dusty crescent]

is normal

[void crow]

it seems like it's better for funneling envenoms in an AOE pack

[faint vessel]

yeah i mean youll run low, thats normal

[vast patio]

I'm inclined to say sac

[faint vessel]

sim the sac

[stray adder]

no skardyn, i guess it's gonna be another 26 grim batol this week

[dusty crescent]

oh i needed to update

[severe canyon]

and then the talent makes no sense since i cant even keep uptime on 1 stack

[void crow]

just slam dunking envenoms onto your deathmark in AOE is probably what that talent is for

[faint vessel]

you can certainly maintain 1 stack and overlap with 2 in ST even in M+

[void crow]

only place i can picture it actually being that big

[nova aspen]

posts vault pic
wHaT dO i TaKe

[raven egret]

uhmmmm

[faint vessel]

try the weakaura to play around with the pandemic times

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[strange python]

yes do the work for me

[dusty crescent]

why can't we make decisions as a community

[faint vessel]

in the LE rogue group collection theres a TTK standalone WA

[stray adder]

because sims

[drowsy hatch]

If your vault has no ocarina I don't want to fucking see it

[dusty crescent]

it takes a village

[stray adder]

or sims

[spice spire]

Oh it’s that time

[dusty crescent]

what a take

[spice spire]

Vault time baby

[drowsy hatch]

Based.

[fluid dagger]

my vault was straight ass

[spice spire]

Easy ocarina take

[faint vessel]

already took it

[junior shore]

might be time to switch from outlaw bois

[faint vessel]

obv

who needs myth skardyns

[stray adder]

yall can fuck off with skardyn

[drowsy hatch]

Pogarina will ALWAYS be the best

[spice spire]

Always has been

[severe meadow]

No ring

[spice spire]

Ur lit for this one dog

[fickle lotus]

https://i.imgur.com/uKkSBYW.jpeg

game sucks

[vast patio]

Today is sac day

Apparently

[cerulean island]

new player here.... any advice , please ? I'm thinking in either trinket or the shoulder

[fluid dagger]

im confused, i only ran one +10, is the vault slot going to be from that dung only or any?

[gray hazel]

why cant i get one of the other 3 better trinkets. I have seen every other trinket but those 3 lol

[drowsy hatch]

Crystal gud it's fine

[gray hazel]

Maybe crystal is better now or something

[vast patio]

Empowering crystal isn't horrible

[crimson current]

crystal is good

[fluid dagger]

im really confused, i ran a +10 DB but my item is from nec wake?

[brave vector]

It’s random

[dusty crescent]

time to slow walk to my vault

for extra drama

[vast patio]

Doesn't matter, kills only matter for first raid kills iirc

[quaint depot]

got mythic tier chest, not bad, had a champion M+ chest equipped

[fluid dagger]

just like randomized all dungs loot regardless of what you complete?

[vast patio]

Yes

[brave vector]

You clear a 10 and then get a mythic item from any dungeon. The only time what you cleared matters is that you can’t get loot from a specific raid boss until you’ve killed it on the corresponding difficulty

[dusty crescent]

bro just end my life

[fluid dagger]

true got fkin stichflesh's POS ring

[dusty crescent]

just end my life

[drowsy hatch]

No pogarina

[vast patio]

Pain

[spice spire]

Myth tier?

[drowsy hatch]

Oh well

[warped jackal]

can you guys help me in Defensive . i have 4 25% heal wich is super bad . COS 2 min . Evasion ( i rarly use it 100% dodge ) . Feint which i use for aoe all the time . But what about Dot and Direct cast on me and channels

how can i deal with them ?

[slate crown]

I loooooooove reset day

[crimson current]

elusiveness and feint dots

[dusty crescent]

taking the myth ring

BUT I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT

[leaden finch]

i have arakara trinket M and 2 daggers 636

[dusty crescent]

i have 619 rings

[warped jackal]

what is Elusiveness ?

[crimson current]

talent

[spice spire]

Talent

It’s a choice with cheat death

Makes feint feintier

[cerulean island]

Should I take the trinket or try to complete the kareshi set (i dont have the shoulder)

[leaden finch]

What could I grab?

[spice spire]

Whatever sims best

[vast patio]

Tfw your best drop is a bad item that catalyzes to something worse

[spice spire]

[warped jackal]

i have cheat death chosen from wowhead talent

[quaint depot]

Spyglass imo

[drowsy hatch]

Tier is immediately better in any case, but everything is so low you'll replace everything quickly

[spice spire]

Yeah you can also choose elusiveness if you feel the need

[cerulean island]

TY !

[desert vault]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[cerulean island]

TY !

[arctic socket]

Crystal is pog

[crimson current]

in higher keys you need elusiveness to dots

[arctic socket]

Spyglass is Icky

[drowsy hatch]

dslice is generally the best we got

[austere bramble]

is there a way to remove an embellishment when simming

[dusty crescent]

i'm mad

[spice spire]

Cease

[austere bramble]

like from my current gear

[vast patio]

I thought sin liked it :L

[raven egret]

Come to the Ass side

[arctic socket]

We do

[spice spire]

Yes

[warped jackal]

so that it ??? if there is a fight with alot of dot dmg the only thing i can do is feint talent with 20% dmg reduction .. i was just playing DK and warrior and i feal rogue Def is way way bad XD

[arctic socket]

But it’s stinky

[junior shore]

looking more likely now that 13's are done, probably do the ez three then switch

[dusty crescent]

it's 593 bro

[warped jackal]

there muust be somthing i am missing

[ionic fox]

Haste/mast ring, crit/mast wrist, hast/mast boots, and egg...

[spice spire]

Our defensives are very good, BUT. We have no heal while feral and dk both provide

[quaint depot]

his whole vault is 593 or less, given where he is at, he should take the spyglass imo

[drowsy hatch]

Yes coming from 2 classes with good defensives and plate wearers it will feel different defensively

[dusty crescent]

oh if that's case yeah glas

s

[arctic socket]

Gratz on your cloak

[ionic fox]

already had cloak 😛

its heroic level

[crimson current]

we are a lot squishier but have the defensive almost 100% uptime

[spice spire]

This didn’t slip either I’m gonna catch mfs on sight horny posting (I’m a new man, holy and a man of god)

[hard sparrow]

are we keeping master assassin next patch?

[crimson current]

need to learn to use em

[arctic socket]

Gratz on your socket (sim it)

[spice spire]

🔮

[arctic socket]

Read pinned messages

[spice spire]

Unless you mean reset

[dusty crescent]

guess i'm taking gloves

[spice spire]

In which case yes

[hard sparrow]

ah it's pinned ty

mb

[dusty crescent]

BLARG

[arctic socket]

No mythic tier gloves?

F

[chrome mirage]

[crimson current]

skardyns pog

[arctic socket]

Get fucked

[errant mauve]

Played yourself

[arctic socket]

Should did all your 10 s

[errant mauve]

That just hurts to see

[arctic socket]

Nah it’s funny

[neat terrace]

Spyglass decent for sin?

[dusty crescent]

h8 uuuu

[arctic socket]

Yes

[quaint depot]

if by decent you mean bis yeah

[crimson current]

stinky but decent

[arctic socket]

Very stinky

[drowsy hatch]

Stinky spyglass

[crimson current]

you can use it

[arctic socket]

Real gamers use mandate

[spice spire]

Yes

[slim pebble]

Yall are looting a mandate?

[arctic socket]

I have multiple

[slim pebble]

My guild has seen one all tier

[arctic socket]

[spice spire]

Spyglass haters 👉 🚪

[arctic socket]

Look

[slim pebble]

Mods

[earnest ferry]

hey wat are the best trinks for assa since u mention tirnkets ?

[chrome mirage]

[vast patio]

Ban

[drowsy hatch]

Crystal is my goat no spyglass here

[crimson current]

im with you

[raven egret]

Thats sus

[austere bramble]

hi guys, so in our bis gear we don't use any crafted equipment at all?

is that right?

[crimson current]

bis is relative

[spice spire]

You’re my eternal opp then

[dusty crescent]

2 piece crafted

[stray adder]

you don't know it, but we're beefing

[crimson current]

craft what u need

with the stats u need

[drowsy hatch]

opposites attract

[dusty crescent]

could've gone my whole life without seeing this

[spice spire]

TO beefs with everyone

[spice spire]

#1080572530554835072

[drowsy hatch]

I post in :3 too much already

[errant mauve]

God damn why you got so many slardyns

[fair cypress]

What is the best way to sim for sin for M+?

[crimson current]

bro dont sell em

dslice ig

idk i just sim dslice

[fair cypress]

I got myth track sacbrood but its saying its worse than my dawnbreaker hero track trinket

[drowsy hatch]

Dslice is fine

[dusty crescent]

did you sim it at max upgrade?

[spice spire]

It’s a sign.
Seek help bestie

Repent the :3 ways

[drowsy hatch]

what am I without :3

[spice surge]

Aint no rest for the :3

[drowsy hatch]

Born to :3 forced to :3

[fair cypress]

I have it upgraded fully to 636

[vast patio]

Guys I got a dying frog and a nuclear bomb in my vault does the frog do more dps

[spice spire]

Not u 2 goat

Bunch of degens in chat

[rotund oak]

one of the best trinket pairs to my humble opinion

[spice spire]

Depends is this a plague frog or a normal

[vast patio]

It's dead now

[spice spire]

Because a plague could be more devastating than a nuke

[drowsy hatch]

Is this a frog shaped like an ocarina

[spice spire]

Can it spread post Mortem

That’s going to be out of contexted

[vast patio]

Correct

[dusty crescent]

when did this ocarina meme start

[spice spire]

Meme?

[vast patio]

Gold cartridge pog

[drowsy hatch]

I just really like ocarinas

[arctic socket]

Get good

[spice spire]

I think its hilarious u kids talking shit about @stray adder u wouldnt say this stuff to them at lan, they're jacked. not only that but they wear the freshest clothes, eat at the chillest restaurants and hang out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol

[tired gull]

619 kiss of death sims same as 606 skardyn's for me 😄

[spice spire]

That is uh

Unfortunate

[stray adder]

So you're going by "Thresh Onlyfans" now nerd? Haha whats up douche bag, it's Tanner from Highschool. Remember me? Me and the guys used to give you a hard time in school. Sorry you were just an easy target lol. I can see not much has changed. Remember Sarah the girl you had a crush on? Yeah we're married now. I make over 200k a year and drive a mustang GT. I guess some things never change huh loser? Nice catching up lol. Pathetic..

[pliant terrace]

[spice spire]

Good shit sylv

[vast patio]

Is today skardyn day

[gentle helm]

anyone have experience using the ovinax egg/is it superr annoying?

[teal stratus]

its skardyn's day

[pliant terrace]

mythic track skardyn's??

[spice spire]

The sticker follow up is

[vast patio]

My rogue is a baby so no cool guy vault for me.

[spice spire]

We all get there big dog dw

Ur gonna have a sick vault soon

[dusty crescent]

tired of seeing skardyns

closing discord

[vast patio]

I missed it ngl

[dusty crescent]

T.T

[tired gull]

yeah my vault was ass-tronomical this week

[stray adder]

I love that the people who didnt touch Grim batol once last week are all getting Skardyn in their vault meanwhile me on the other hand:

[vast patio]

I just wanted to see if sin got nuked before committing

[stray adder]

plz end my life

[vast patio]

https://tenor.com/view/roasted-spongebob-coffin-gif-5703731

[quaint depot]

Nuking the good specs doesn't seem to be what they're trying to do

[vast patio]

Arcane:

[quaint depot]

They just hit them slightly and they're still good

[thin plinth]

i've been trying to get splice n dice 😄

[grizzled ember]

Took me 55 runs over 2 weeks to get mine. You’ll see it soon

[pliant terrace]

now my collection is complete

[stray adder]

Thanks for the words of encouragement i guess

[vast patio]

My shaman got it in like 5 runs so my rogue is going to pay for that one.

[stray adder]

[quaint depot]

Took me 60 mists to get unbound changing on my rsham

And even then it was someone else who got it and gave it to me

[vast patio]

I got a warbound champ changeling yesterday so that was neat.

Idk who to give it tho. Maybe lock

So on that note, is sac raid only for assa?

[gloomy cove]

Ascendence or the crit embellishments?

[arctic socket]

Lmao

[barren sleet]

The choices

[dusty crescent]

+12's should reward myth track items at end of dungeon

[hollow compass]

when i shadowmeld into stealth in combat why don't i get indiscriminate carnage ?

[slim pebble]

I should set up Remote Desktop so I can check my vault

[dusty crescent]

it's very useful

google has a remote desktop app i sue

use

[vast patio]

evil

[primal oasis]

Well they forced frost dk's back into the degenerate playstyle of BoS which is pretty cruel

[vast patio]

Legit dropped frost because of it and only dk tank

I hate breath so much

[primal oasis]

Same

Just play unholy

[shy marten]

breath is not that degenerate...it's only about 25-30s...

[vast patio]

I need more haste gear so I can't yet

[shy marten]

it was so much worst when breath was lasting 1min-1.5mins

[primal oasis]

I mean it's less bad than Infinite breath

[worldly spade]

So I dont usually run double on use, is mandate ok to run double on use with?

[primal oasis]

But breath itself is still heavily disliked by a lot of people so they should at least offer a viable alternative

[shy marten]

breath as a concept is pretty cool, it's a big focal point of the frost dk gameplay

[hollow compass]

when i shadowmeld into stealth in combat why don't i get indiscriminate carnage ?

[limber lion]

yes

[rotund oak]

not yet,something's missing

[drowsy hatch]

You probably didnt actually stealth

[shy marten]

well it doesnt help that they just closed their eyes and fucked the other build royally

[limber lion]

shadowmeld doesn't give you stealth

You have to stealth after using shadowmeld

[primal oasis]

Yeah, I realllyy liked shattered blade oblit

[stray adder]

thats what he said though

[limber lion]

to get into actual stealth

[stray adder]

sm into stealth

[limber lion]

Yes

But he wasn't in stealth

if he's not getting IC

[hollow compass]

im using macro so first cast shadowmeld > stealth

[limber lion]

You have to be away from the pack

[drowsy hatch]

And not at all in bosses

[limber lion]

For it to work and for you to drop combat

Only works if you can drop combat

[stray adder]

sounds kinda ass

[limber lion]

It is ass

[shy marten]

it depends if something actually immediately makes you go out of combat

[limber lion]

That's why Nelf is ass

[drowsy hatch]

shadowmeld is a total meme

[shy marten]

for example it doesn't work on bosses

[stray adder]

dwarf login

[hollow compass]

ahh okay so i need to go a little back then use it

[shy marten]

idk i meld pretty reliably from my gameplay

[slim pebble]

Dracthyr bis

[true lintel]

is deadeyes spyglass actually good?

[drowsy hatch]

it's aight

[limber lion]

It's okay

Many better choices out there

[hollow compass]

what 2 trinket do we want the most

for m+ and raid

[dusty crescent]

i liked breath of sin....

..>

[drowsy hatch]

skardyns then a few options

[true lintel]

so myth gloves over myth spyglass in vault?

[limber lion]

Myth Skardyn + Crystal for m+

Skardyn + Mandate/Ritual Knife for raid

really depends whether you can get Myth versions of other trinkets or not

Heroic Ritual Knife kinda slaps

[hollow compass]

i got skardyns myth so if for all other trinket what goes well with it on myth track

[drowsy hatch]

I mean he said that

crystal for m+ then mandate or knife

[hollow compass]

okok

[limber lion]

Can't get a myth knife so that's out of the question

[verbal flower]

is transmitter just not good or just annoying to use?

[limber lion]

sooo

[hollow compass]

yea i know

[limber lion]

It is good and yes it is annoying

We have so many options though

[verbal flower]

the only time i've seen skardyns drop was as a warbound for a priest

[past bobcat]

Transmitter 😛

[limber lion]

So no reason to play if you got any other trinket in existence

[drowsy hatch]

Whispyr was using transmitter on prog cause hes skardynsless

[spice spire]

[limber lion]

Only if you don't have Skardyns

[spice spire]

I feel awful to this moment

[fluid dagger]

skadyns just broke for anyone with a valid mastery, so for ass ass its absurd

[drowsy hatch]

ass ass

[spice surge]

Skardyn is absolutely not absurd

[fluid dagger]

😄

[spice surge]

Its incredibly mid

[past bobcat]

I have both but transmitter is still 5k dps above and it's not that horrible to use

[limber lion]

It's better than the other choices, but not insane in any way

[fluid dagger]

FACT 🗣️

[spice surge]

Just slightly better than all the other bad trinkets

[limber lion]

Compared to stuff like Grieftorch or Puzle Box in the past

[past bobcat]

Skar is defs better in m+ though but not sure if it is in raid

[limber lion]

Oki

[spice surge]

Like ashes at the same ilvl as skardyn is like 6% better

[verbal flower]

never forget dragonfire bomb dispenser

[arctic socket]

How is it not on the same footing as puzzle box

Or branch

When it does similar to the same thing

[limber lion]

Because there's 17 different trinkets that are on the same level

[fluid dagger]

skardyns window feels crazy with the master assass as well though

[spice surge]

Numbers are low

[limber lion]

It does, but Puzzle Box for one was so much better numerically than anything else

Doesn't matter if the effect is the same

if the number is smaller

[dusty crescent]

question what's the highest aoe dps you guys have pulled in like... NW with a big pull in the middle with the necromancers and shit?

[spice surge]

Just like transmitter has extra stats because of the minigame, puzzlebox had extra stats because of the cast

[limber lion]

Like 7m maybe, but my gear is also shit like 612 ilvl

[nova kelp]

oh nice
that works

[past bobcat]

2 myth trinkets lmao

[dusty crescent]

hmm i'm doing something wrong then....

[past bobcat]

Plagued by success

[trail locust]

My highest is also 7mil!!!!

[dusty crescent]

i did like 7.8-8 at 620

[trail locust]

But im 632

[limber lion]

Assa confirmed op

[dusty crescent]

i was on caustic target

[past bobcat]

Start of NW pull I'm doing 12 mill

[dusty crescent]

idk what i did wrong

[dusty crescent]

damn

meanwhile the boomkin was pulling like 14mil

lol

[past bobcat]

Watch casuals streams

He's doing even more

[trail locust]

Yeah nerf ass and boomkin

[vivid mulch]

Anyone got a link to what the new worldbosses drop?

[trail locust]

Way yoo much dam

[carmine wedge]

Hey there, is Leech sooo bad compared to Avoidance ? just have to make a decision between 2 items

[shy pecan]

Buff kreem

[spice spire]

Nerf monk

[dusty crescent]

yeah but i legit just dunno what i'm doing wrong on it T.T

[warm vortex]

Anyone get good vault

[spice surge]

Neither are particularly powerful but i would suggest avoidance

[split veldt]

[spice surge]

Since you already have leeching poison

[dusty crescent]

5 ruptures and garrotes, caustic pop dm kb shiv pot and skardyns

and i'm 8mil

idk what i'm doing wrong when i'm blasting env ct fok etc

[trail locust]

So mean

[arctic socket]

@dusty crescent your ilvl

[spice spire]

When daps isn’t around I have to bully someone from advance :/

[limber lion]

Vanish? :hmm:

[shy pecan]

zac

[dusty crescent]

621

[hot nexus]

are we now just 1 lethality now after the bug fix?

[split veldt]

damn wtf, i suck ass, im 628 and ive never hit 8m on a trash pack

[dusty crescent]

ah yeah i don't vanish enough...

[arctic socket]

Feint the haters away

[spice spire]

How

[dusty crescent]

i'll look into that, ty for suggestion

[split veldt]

idk, im doing 1.5-1.8 on overall, is that trash too?

[limber lion]

Yes

I'm doing those numbers and I'm 612

[split veldt]

[dusty crescent]

i norm do 1.9m overall as 621 ilvl

[arctic socket]

If your pulling insane in NW you will do over 8m

In that first pack

[dusty crescent]

for the dungeon

[split veldt]

maybe my groups are just shit and we pull "normal"

[spice spire]

People also forget that Cev is a nutter

Gear or not

[dusty crescent]

yeah but buttons are the same, if done in the same order ilvl would make the diff

[grizzled ember]

Luckily I need the neck

[dusty crescent]

anyone have a guestimate number of mobs on the first NW trash pull in the middle?

i'mma try and sim it

[spice spire]

With middle and gatekeeper?

16? Plus whatever gatekeeper spawns

19? If you pull the roaming pack too

I could be off

6 center, 1 gatekeeper, 4 and 5 pack.
Oh the three pack too

So add 3-4

[split veldt]

NW 10 i did last week, why am i bad

fix me

[spice spire]

You were 300k over the rest

[stray adder]

forget about you, what about that ret

[spice spire]

You did fine

[stray adder]

holy balls

[normal river]

Hello guys. I'm a tank main wondering how much dps you lose if you're denied a restealth (natural) and when it's ok to chain and when it's not, can someone asnwer those 2 questions? Thank you!

I had a rogue leaving in timed DB run because I chained the miniboss into more adds, I'm a bit depressed now since my friend that plays rogue said its ok to chain every now and then cause every rogue can restealth even in combat.

[split veldt]

was a 600 friend on alt lol

did the key for him

[spice spire]

Vanish exists for that
And yeah you don’t lose a ton on chaining but it has to be appropriate chaining. Not like a “things have 2% left so let’s go next”

[drowsy hatch]

Any assa that complains about not getting restealths is a brainlet unless the chain pulling is like awkward

Actual chain pulling is no issue

[spice spire]

Beat u to it bud

Ur washed

[limber lion]

That's good though

[drowsy hatch]

I'm drinking caffeine

[limber lion]

Chaining at super low hp is actually the play so you get stealth immediately and get to pull the pack right away instead of waiting

[spice spire]

It isn’t if you’re in combat the entire time.
If you kill in the way you can hang back and restealth

[limber lion]

Pulling one singular mob at 15% to a new pack is a no-go though

[spice spire]

But if you’re pulling a 5%er to the mob beside it

You’ve freaked it

I’m not going super in the weeds on %. But assume I mean pack lives on no health all the way to the following pack

[arctic socket]

That’s when you shadow meld

[spice spire]

Nelf stinky

[balmy prism]

and meld bugs out so you just stand there looking dumb

[spice spire]

You can tell those dogs are barking

[normal river]

Okay thank you... Just as example - does this chain considered 'ok' to do? I pull 6 and when low hp mobs die and most of the pack is more than 50% hp I chain into 7?

[stray adder]

I respect your initiative of coming here to ask that question though

good stuff

[buoyant mortar]

https://youtu.be/N_if0HnJ1gE?t=2289 Our lord and savior goes over this allot in this video

[spice spire]

Yeah as long as you’re actively keeping things pretty high it’s fine. I get killing casters because they’re a bitch to keep grouped them moving on though.

[spice surge]

Ye thats fine

[dusty crescent]

if no vanish and we can't get 1s to restealth we cry everytiem

[spice spire]

You have the ability to hang back if things are super duper low and you’re just pressing forward. Just have some awkward chains.
Generally communication between tank and dps helps a ton

[onyx falcon]

i havent seen this video.... but that thumbnail LOL

[spice spire]

So good stuff, friend. Good question

[stray adder]

W tank

[proven jasper]

W tank for sure

[frail escarp]

Which would you pick? Boots seem to be simming higher but feel like trinket would be better

[proven jasper]

thats what we like to see

[proven jasper]

Do you not have a skardyns? If not id take boots and farm one of those

[arctic socket]

I would pick up the trinket

[dusty crescent]

raidbots only goes to 10 mobs

[scarlet wyvern]

Boots look juicy

[dusty crescent]

is there a way to sim like 20 mobs? in raidbots?

[unique wolf]

hey guys wanted to ask, for a longer pull in m+, my bleeds run out, should i just pop vanish and reapply bleeds through DTB or hold for the 1m kingsbane window? also assuming i have no vanish and bleeds are running out, do i need to reapply bleeds 1 by 1?

[spice spire]

Contextual answer

How high are the mobs after bleeds run out

[crisp compass]

Is assassination rogue fotm?

[cobalt sphinx]

i hope you are all as blessed as i am

[spice spire]

Yes

[arctic socket]

Yeshnot

[proven jasper]

[spice spire]

@drowsy hatch

[drowsy hatch]

My love

[arctic socket]

What is that

[drowsy hatch]

the pogarina

[normal river]

Thank you, that helps a lot. Is there any data on how much % of the dps you lose if I do the silliest chain pull possible, like pulling two 10% hp mobs into a new pack? Is it 5 ish % dos? Is it 20%? or even more?

[spice spire]

Ocarina

[unique wolf]

so basically if they live long enough refresh bleeds, and for vanish you have to decide based on next pulls and how long pack is gna last etc?

[spice spire]

Pretty much

[arctic socket]

What is that

[unique wolf]

alright thanks

[drowsy hatch]

bis trink for all classes

[dusty crescent]

that's 10 adds

[spice spire]

Cease

[dusty crescent]

i can't sim 20 adds

[spice spire]

We used to have a command

[drowsy hatch]

I will not be silenced

[spice spire]

It’s not that much

[proven jasper]

Its a couple percent, its really more about if you do some silly chain pull into a big pull you’re losing huge iron wire value

[crisp compass]

My guild gave me the ability to change to any class cause a cried about nerfs. So now I have to pick what to play

[spice spire]

Play what you want

[crisp compass]

I want to play damage

[stray adder]

do not play rogue, move to the shaman discord

[proven jasper]

Play what you like, balancing is pretty solid atm

[drowsy hatch]

I heard enh shamans are taking fotms

[crisp compass]

How easy is rogue if I only use hekili?

[spice spire]

Be good at what you play and you’ll always do damage regardless of tuning (unless tuning is vile and awful)

[deep gyro]

[spice spire]

Very bad

Hekili pulls sequence from apl.
Doesn’t take into account seal fate or other timings

Historically it’s never been good for us

[inland escarp]

Is it good for any class?

[normal river]

Hmm... What about bosses that can't be silenced and you don't need to spread the dots? It is fine to chain low hp mobs into the boss or I still want to drop combat?

[spice spire]

Don’t know

I rawdog classes

And I’m bad

[craggy oak]

No

[spice spire]

Can pull into boss just fine

[proven jasper]

Pulling into boss is whatever yeah

[spice spire]

It sucks to not have the empowered garrote

[green timber]

Why do I see most people using 5p tier? Wouldn't a crit/mastery piece in one of the slots be better than something with vers or something?

[spice spire]

But they should have marks up

[dusty crescent]

hey, do you know how to sim more mobs? i can only do 10

[spice spire]

Only time that I recommend holding is if mark bugs and drops but your rogue should tell you

[cobalt sphinx]

probably, but they're just using what they have, it really doesn't matter

[spice spire]

Advanced sims

[inland escarp]

I’d imagine it’s just item level

[spice spire]

Crit mastery isn’t the end all be all

[cobalt sphinx]

crit is not that good with MA though

[spice spire]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[dusty crescent]

i'm not a smart man, where would i go to see this

nvm i see

[arctic socket]

What does it do

[lone parrot]

just keep stacking mastery until you can stack no mo' /s

[drowsy hatch]

im memeing its shit it gives like vers to others or something

[normal river]

I pug 99% of the time, so usually we don't have any communication. I'm just getting some rogues that say 'chaining is ok' and some that just leave a key after I chainpull like twice in a dungeon... So wanted to confirm with people who actually know for sure. Well that helped a lot, thank you guys so much!

[arctic socket]

Oh

[arctic socket]

Advanced

[spice spire]

Ahhh still, W tank.
L rogues for leaving you. Good luck sir!

[dusty crescent]

ah i see it but not the ability to go above 10

[versed gulch]

Hear me out... We all run the trinket that gives others Vers. They do more damage. We do less damage. We get more buffs?

[arctic socket]

You got shitter rogues

[spice spire]

Send me your ten add sim

[spice spire]

Think I can get it working

For advanced

[lone parrot]

rogues leaving bc of chain pulls are cowards

they are staring at details for 99 percent of the dungeon

[spice surge]

Ive done like 20 keys this week and havent had my mark dissapear once

[spice spire]

I found it reliably happening

If you have dn rolling

[fallen arch]

U dont mark Tirnan villagers?

[spice spire]

And envenom (kill add one with max cp) get it again and envenom (kill add two with max cp) back to back

[shut wave]

Guys, is there a solution to switch between targets easier to reapply bleedings?
I'm currently clicking

[spice spire]

That’s the only time I’ve had it happen since fixes

[spice surge]

Well i meant unexpectedly, people talk about there being a bug with it

[spice spire]

tab

[spice surge]

Those trees are "intended" to lose us the mark

[fallen arch]

Yy i know king

[shut wave]

tried it, but I find it's very random sometimes

[pearl flower]

Is twist the knife talent now being taken for m+ ?

[spice spire]

It can be

There’s about

[fallen arch]

Also fuck those trees

[sullen steppe]

anyone know what the fastest delve to spam on t8 is for chance at the knife in vault

[spice spire]

609 combos that are useable

[spice spire]

I’m a fungal folly stan

But it kinda depends on what the delve of the day

[spice surge]

I just looted a knife from a map first week

[pliant silo]

Depends on the quest inside

[spice spire]

Dread pit is also good

If it’s the leveling one

[dusty crescent]

shadow ritual knife can only be hero track right?

[spice surge]

It cant be myth correct

[pliant silo]

One of the delve quests can be interacted with in stealth, can’t remember which but it makes for very fast t8 farming

[spice spire]

It’s the underwater one in hallowfell isn’t it

[pearl flower]

Can i ask for one more log review?

[spice spire]

Is it a key

If so not now

[pearl flower]

Yeah

Kk

[spice spire]

I don’t do key review on mobile

And I’m not home for uh

9 more hours?

[rotund oak]

the real question is where are u

[arctic socket]

My house

[spice spire]

At work

[rotund oak]

[willow gale]

it is normal that in ST Bossfights we struggle with energy regen, right? feels so odd to stand there and wait a few seconds to push a button and wait an eternity again.
aoe feels super nice tho

[dusty crescent]

ty for trying

[arctic socket]

Working hard

[pearl flower]

Can I post the log and u just make a thread

[spice spire]

Yeah absolutely

Worst case

Remind me tomorrow

And I’ll look at it

[pearl flower]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bPavpAKTYLm26Gc4#fight=2&type=damage-done

[drowsy hatch]

In m+ build yes

[spice spire]

Or tn

[trim junco]

sorry if this has been asked before but i cant seem to find it in pins - is there a talent string for the subterfuge/ttk/MA build we run in keys now? I understand that there are different variations, but is there a variation that is 'most optimal'?

[drowsy hatch]

2nd pin btw

[timber meadow]

i want to include iron wire here while keeping ttk/ma - what yall think is best point to remove?

[arctic socket]

He’s looking for a strand

To import

[fallen arch]

Sb

Or sbs

[drowsy hatch]

Yucky strings

[arctic socket]

Sanguine blades

[spice spire]

Mf knitting

[drowsy hatch]

I prefer ropes to strings :3

[spice spire]

Dog

[arctic socket]

Dawg?

[unique kettle]

team is there a way to sim embellishments

[arctic socket]

Bro like being tied up

[spice spire]

Yes

One second

[ebon notch]

@spice spire what was the consensus on dropping iron wire

Do you gain dps for it

In keys

[fallen arch]

Cursed

[drowsy hatch]

I mean its impossible to not gain dps

[willow gale]

feels just so weird. who thought that was a nice idea lul

[drowsy hatch]

But thats not the point

[arctic socket]

You can gain dps from dropping it but only when the dungeons doesn’t require it

[spice spire]

#tc-research message

[arctic socket]

And you have a good team

[ebon notch]

That’s the only thing I’m looking to discuss rn

[unique kettle]

ty sir o7

[ebon notch]

I understand it’s value

[spice spire]

Personally I’d do it for mists only

[ebon notch]

I’m talking in a vacuum

[spice spire]

But you do gain some

[arctic socket]

If you’re pugging never drop IW

[spice spire]

Because

[drowsy hatch]

Yeah if you take a talent that gives dps by dropping a talent that does not do dps your dps goes up

[spice spire]

What are you silencing in mists on opener

Also fwiw

[ebon notch]

Yeah but how much roughly

Do we have a % or smth

[spice spire]

He’s asking for MDI reasons

[spice spire]

Less than a %

[ebon notch]

Ok then fuck that

[spice spire]

Iirc

No but really

[trim junco]

so would this be the right setup for the class tree to go subterfuge?

[fallen arch]

Rlly that little?

[spice spire]

Don’t run it in lists

[ebon notch]

It’s only the first area where it’s worth

[spice spire]

Like there’s no reason to ever silence in mists with coordinated kicks

[arctic socket]

Drop iw pick back up sanguine blades

[spice spire]

Yeah

Exactly

[ebon notch]

But even then maybe no rogue

[spice spire]

Ahhh

Unlagi

[ebon notch]

As long as you can skip the two packs who cares

[pliant silo]

IW has the small damage % shit not just the silence

Pretty minor but relevant for pugs

[spice spire]

#assassination message

[drowsy hatch]

Yeah if it's for mdi then I take back my sass

[pliant silo]

Zero reason to silence != zero reason for iron wire as there is a second effect of the debuff

So you have to decide that the second part is irrelevant also

[fresh kelp]

Only on mobs that can be silenced though

[pliant silo]

Which it might be

[drowsy hatch]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[spice spire]

Daps is dense and a fotm brained mf.
But. He’s good and has decent understanding of what the spec does.
Hell occasionally miss the nuance but he knows the gist

[pliant silo]

There are caster mobs that get silenced, he is just making the case that they are few enough to be managed by kicks

[spice spire]

That’s why he’s specific with his question

Brother

This is MDI they’re speed running

[drowsy hatch]

Yeah that's fine, didn't know he was legit, sorry

[spice spire]

He’s looking for any gains in a rat 9 for max geared toon

[spice spire]

Nope, jail.
Sorry

[timber meadow]

2 supercahrger simming better for me than 2 lethality this week btw

[spice spire]

[drowsy hatch]

I'll post in :3 as my time

[spice spire]

Dog that isn’t even jail for you.
That’s a benefit

[drowsy hatch]

It's like a Norwegian jail

[molten flicker]

isn't dog a slur

[spice spire]

No

I love dogs wdym

[molten flicker]

slur = ban

dog = ban

[drowsy hatch]

I took it as a compliment

[spice spire]

[iron orchid]

yeah bro didn't see that

[shrewd night]

Did someone say ban_

[spice spire]

[distant lion]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[spice spire]

Meownar has returned

[spice spire]

It’s meant to be one.

[ebon prism]

if i already have 636 crafted dagger and a vers/mast 639 myth dagger, is there even a point to grab a 639 crit/mast dagger from vault? or very low value?

[spice spire]

Very low value

[timber meadow]

any other st talent setups worth simming? i just did 2 supercharger/1lethality vs. 2 lethality/1 supercharger

[drowsy hatch]

If you haven't done fatebound and want to try that

It could be good

Fatebound tends to be better in pure st

[spice spire]

Fatebound

[lethal arrow]

it was a socket week

[timber meadow]

hm yeah ill check

[lethal arrow]

[timber meadow]

last week mythic ring, this week mythic cloak - huge crest savings back to back

[drowsy hatch]

Fatebound is stinky but I tell no lie

[timber meadow]

mythic ring+crafted ring save on the upgrade and mythic cloak fully upgraded natty from vault

[spice spire]

Until lethality stops double dipping

Which is today

[drowsy hatch]

I thought that was a hotfix

[arctic socket]

Thought that was today

But lethality is still pogu

[ebon notch]

@spice spire i need to get rank 1 public logs in raid so people remember im legit

smh

[arctic socket]

[spice spire]

Nah you just need to stop being a ho

[drowsy hatch]

nah I just dont know shit

I'm here to hornypost only

[arctic socket]

Girls don’t horny post

Unless your quake

[spice spire]

You do well lili - I’m not trying to undermine anything.
In fact whispyr could come in and tell me I’m a fucking idiot and call me bad words for being an idiot

[spice spire]

Dog I’m definitely a guy

[arctic socket]

@spice spire you’re a girl today dawg

[distant lion]

Hey guys quick question about ttk tracking (2x envenom overlap). I see LE has a good tracker for it, how important is it to be trying to snipe the overlaps when possible. By following the rules of the class it kind of already plays itself. There definitely seems like there is room for optimization I just don't know how much it matters.

[spice spire]

Oh shit I’m one of the gals he’ll yeah

[drowsy hatch]

Your bunny suit is in the mail

[spice spire]

It doesn’t matter a ton actually

[spice spire]

That’s so cursed dude

[arctic socket]

Do you have a bunny suit?

[drowsy hatch]

I'd have to buy one

[spice spire]

@ebon notch what would you do if your gf sounded like me

[nova aspen]

u only care about it in cd windows

and since u spam anyway, it plays itself

[pine flame]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[distant lion]

@nova aspen Thats what I figured thank you for confirmation.

[ebon notch]

wth

[ebon notch]

texan?

[spice spire]

Sure man

[nova aspen]

u might find that niche min/max moment for tracking both

but eh

[primal oasis]

Is only chaining envenom when the buff is about the run out still a thing or do you just send it?

[spice spire]

I don’t sound Texan at all but pop off king

[spice spire]

Just send er bud

[ebon prism]

for m+, how big is queen ring vs M+ options?

[spice spire]

No idea that’s a simmer

[ebon prism]

dslice is ok to use?

[unique kettle]

yo can someone check my bot

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/f4iZrxTf12SfC7Lamqgf8B

is dawnthread that much of a loss?

[ebon notch]

what u want from me

[spice spire]

The buss

I mean

[arctic socket]

If you’re mainly raiding do ascension with double thingy

[spice spire]

For you to do well at MDI friend

[unique kettle]

yeah but the leech dagger dropped

[dusty crescent]

lend me 7 ilvl

[fresh kelp]

your bracers in the take the dagger sim say random stats instead of 2 specific ones, they might be simming as if they have no stats?

[unique kettle]

i can see if that fixes

idk if thats 30k dps tho

[modern ruin]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[unique kettle]

ok ur right it was actually 33k dps