assassination

[arctic socket]

One

[coral ibex]

are you following me

[faint vessel]

please craft yourself a dagger

[versed bronze]

the best talents in wowhead are updated? its the same as before in the spec tree or am i missing smth

[royal lantern]

repent by posting pet pics in #1146207476983812117

[quasi stump]

how? do I like, comission a dagger

[coral ibex]

yes

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[raven panther]

why subterfuge ? what are the ability you want to use 3s after stealth ?

[wicked valve]

Holy hell, THATS where my two keybinds went. My two brain cells were staring at the empty space flabberghsasted

[glacial imp]

2nd vanish if u go subterfuge or 1 in lethality for m+?

[rugged sphinx]

find a crafter, dont put it up on a public work order

[quasi stump]

omg vivi

[kindred hinge]

MA cooked

[wicked valve]

It is I.

[arctic socket]

12s of garrote sounds pretty sick

[kindred hinge]

Both fine

[arctic socket]

Iron wire midmaxin

[crisp stream]

Ttk m+ opener is so freaking weird
It's not ambush gar rup rup anymore and my muscle memory doesn't want to co-operate

[cold sparrow]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[jaunty hill]

🫡 done

[arctic socket]

Why would the m+ opener change

[brave swift]

i dont see TtK working in m+

[waxen oyster]

ttk m+

[gilded sierra]

which sim version are we using? latest or nightly?

[arctic socket]

With ttk

[waxen oyster]

thonk

[crystal delta]

ive been using the whyp edit wa set, ive read through the pinned msg but im not sure if i understand correctly - do i need to update it? cus when i click the link in the !wa msg it still says 11.0 version

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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LE's Group
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Devlin's Group
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[versed bronze]

guys are we using the same talents as before in the assa tree?

[brave swift]

there is no finalized bis option but there is options now

[opaque sigil]

Check out pins pls

[fervent tartan]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[kind tendon]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[deep gyro]

Id update for good measure

[strange cargo]

Gotta say I like the rework!

[crystal delta]

i mean it still says its the 11.0 version thats why im asking

[arctic socket]

There’s not any builds pinned atm

Just check wowhead

Out

[fierce sigil]

i just did some Delves and i pretty much feel weaker than yesterday... dafuq... i thought we were like a little bit buffed or pretty much even?

[crystal delta]

i just want the TTK thing to be tracked 😄

[spice spire]

There’s an update that went out yesterday

[deep gyro]

There was alot of versions yesterday ik i got mine at 8:40 pm when whispyr said he updated.

[spice spire]

I didn’t download it but I’m pretty sure yeah

[marsh falcon]

same, feel like ER really helped me manage energy

[undone eagle]

the hybrid m+ is updated like this? i thought we wanna go MA with subter & ttk? 🙂

[novel star]

good thing we have way more energy than before and none of the talents that steal energy

[undone eagle]

or its optional whatever u feel like?

[dapper halo]

meowdy

[brave swift]

im about to test this out in a 11

to see how it feels

[mighty vine]

I thought subt was like a 8% dps loss in M+

[dusty phoenix]

idk if its the right thing to do but atm I am pooling energy when I have both envenoms ticking and all maintenance up

[waxen oyster]

lmao double vanish

[fickle lotus]

say sike right now

[brave swift]

vanish should be lethality

[warm vortex]

Anybody know a wa that will show just the two envenom buffs
cause rn im playing without weak auras for envenom and it feels a lot harder

[brave swift]

but otherwise no

[strange cargo]

Lmk how no supercharger goes

[dusty phoenix]

the LE pack

!wa

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[spice spire]

Le has one in her collection

[novel star]

collection*

les group is a full thingy which isnt what theyre asking for i think

but the collection has just envenom ye

[autumn rover]

Anyone else not know what to put in your SnD keybind. I feel so empty

[brave swift]

with master assasin idk if it would be truly meme anymore

[arctic socket]

I put my draythr racial on it

[coral ibex]

my 1 keybind is empty to remind me of what once was

RIP SND RIP ER

1 and shift E miss you dearly

[rotund oak]

what collection (yes ive fantasized about lingerie,sry not a perv)

[late ravine]

I had mine on Shift E too 😛

[novel star]

???

[rugged sphinx]

looking at other peoples keybinds, they always look cursed to me

[rotund oak]

???

[spice spire]

HUH

[quasi stump]

I'm a bit confused on this because I have a champion mainhand but an adventurer sidearm.. so is it worth it crafting a dagger?

[spice spire]

The rogue collection it’s in !wa

[crystal delta]

Rip SND? we have on SND anymore?

[rotund oak]

it was a joke man!

[sick scarab]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[coral ibex]

craft a 636 mh with 90 gilded crests, its a massive upgrade

[hollow helm]

FBI open up

[rotund oak]

u had to find something funny to respond

[arctic socket]

People that don’t have multi on one scare me

[turbid sandal]

Any major changes to ST Sin?

[quasi stump]

[novel star]

my binds have not changed except losing snd on s-R

[arctic socket]

Why wouldn’t you put the button you press the most on one

[manic quartz]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[jaunty dew]

So do we run subterfuge on ST as well?

[novel star]

no

[dusty phoenix]

my snd was also shift r

[coral ibex]

1 is a low prio bind for me

[dusty phoenix]

rip the good times

[novel star]

Based

[rugged sphinx]

my snd was just r

[sick wasp]

Mine is also shift r

[coral ibex]

all primary rotation abilities are on QERTF

[sick wasp]

rip my giant WA that puts a huge SnD icon in them middle of my screen that says shift+r when it is not up

[jaunty dew]

So this stays our setup?

[crystal delta]

sry just because some stuff said (maybe our of context for me since im not keeping up with every single msg) whats going on with SnD ?

[marsh falcon]

also wondering same

[novel star]

in raid yeah

[desert vault]

Any tips or suggestions for Brood mythic as Sin? Seems like a decent fight for us, just swap and bleed everything as quick as you can basically?

[spice spire]

Don’t need to press it anymore

[novel star]

ttk+MA, no sang no vv

is the only change to raid build

[spice spire]

Envenom starts and extends duration

No longer a button you ever have to push

[rotund oak]

u calling fbi for underwear? who's buying urs brother?

[crystal delta]

auto activates when we use finishers?

[spice spire]

Just envenom

[marsh falcon]

man i liked pressing the buttons

i hate change

[rugged sphinx]

no point bleeding everything, it will die too quickly

just cleave off boss and keep up CT

[wide ocean]

is weekly up to date to sim on now?

[rugged sphinx]

make sure caustic is up at all times

[spice spire]

Not that I’m aware of

Stick nightly/latest

Latest is usually best

[half echo]

Hey guys got a quention. atm i "should" play with ttk & amster assasine in m+ too, right ? therefore do is use my vanish in Aoe Pulls to spread bleeds in the begining of the pull or do i use it with kingsbane and deathmark ?

[wide ocean]

👍

[raven panther]

What can I change to get Master Assassin, it's my build for Ovinax MM, so I need Crimson tempest

[desert vault]

Ok, yeah I figure Ct and Caustic were pretty key. Thanks.

[nova aspen]

if u don't already have it, there is a good build on wowhead for that fight in particular

basically CT immediately with adds spawning and spatter the boss

send cd's on pull

[crystal delta]

so we basically just have 2 less buttons to press with ER and SND ?

[molten echo]

Indeed

[rotund oak]

yup

[crystal delta]

welp 😄 okay

[brazen fern]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[rotund oak]

no minigame as well

[nova aspen]

3 less buttons if u want to macro tea to shiv (its viable)

[rotund oak]

u just press button

[warm vortex]

Im worried that if i install WAs i will get to a point where i can't play without Was

[rare token]

!fuu

[desert vault]

the TTK build for Brood? 2x MA, TTK, Caustic, CT, etc?

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[rotund oak]

also true

[molten echo]

Well… why would you ever need to?

[sick wasp]

@warm vortex I just only play with WA and no other mods

[slim swallow]

god damn. not enough points to reach echoing reprimand -.-

[warm vortex]

Cuase it seems really hard to pandemic the lower stack of TTK if the basic UI doesn't show me the lower stack

and only shows the higher stack

[vagrant brook]

guys do I race change for 2% dps

[crystal delta]

another question 😄 sry - since when do we use 2x lense as embelishment?

[coral ibex]

"can't play" is an extreme scenario

[rugged sphinx]

if we macro tea to shiv, are we using tea twice now in opener?

[slim swallow]

dwarf BiS race for anything

[brazen fern]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[solar orbit]

The game has also been designed with people using WA's in mind

[rotund oak]

u want an answer to convince u or an answer to make u have second thoughts

[molten echo]

What i meant was, why would you ever need to play without WA’s?

[crystal delta]

!crafts

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[coral ibex]

some people think they are a crutch of some kind

[sick wasp]

WA best mod in entire game easy

[solar orbit]

Raid fights weren't THIS mechanically hard without WA, the devs already know people will use WAs so they'll design encounters with this in mind

[royal lantern]

the game is literally deigned around weakauras lol

[sick wasp]

I have no boss WAs and no DBM/etc and do just fine

[crystal delta]

spreadsheet says assa dungeons slice uses 2x focus lense as BiS Embelishments? since when is that the case? in !craft it doesnt say that

[sick wasp]

the game puts giant arrows on your head now

[ocean ferry]

Is pooling energy / envenom at last second still a thing in ST?

[vagrant brook]

both

[molten echo]

WA’s just makes keeping track of everything that much easier, customizable exactly how you want it too. I don’t understand why one would choose to not use WA’s tbh

[dusty phoenix]

because addons bad

[maiden sierra]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[quasi stump]

time to grind out 8's

[kindred hinge]

Wa is good to have sound alert when you tunnel vision

[coral ibex]

you can clear a lot of the game without dbm

[warm vortex]

I guess ill just play sub optimally cause idk
trying the wa makes me super focused on it and miss everyhting else
unless i get a full pack but idk

[sick wasp]

Yeah I mean I dont mythic raid. If things get bad enough I find WAs for specific mechanics

[strong vortex]

So, what with new meta? Overcharged shiv or Crit for 12 seconds after stealth?

[rugged sphinx]

on bloodhound horror, because the hitbox is so big, are the adds in range to cleave on?

[kindred hinge]

Still cooking

[novel star]

no

[kindred hinge]

But ma looks good

[coral ibex]

i mean are you looking at your bars to track cooldowns or something? because either you look at a WA to track stuff, you look at your bars, or you look at your buffs

[rotund oak]

Ok friend so here it comes:
1)The ''convincing'' one : Yeah why not,i mean you will do more dmg and dmg helps u time keys and kill bosses and everyone loves dmg and u look gigachad.Mechagnome bis.
2)The ''Second Thoughts'' one :Idk man,its just 2%,its not that much,u could cover that by just being mechanically potent/not dying/pressing ur buttons.

[mighty vine]

my WA just make different toned fart sounds when my cds and procs are up

[sick wasp]

I've been very anti DBM since I did a number of bosses where it led people to just be mindless drones and do less DPS because they dont look at cast bars

[coral ibex]

genuinely curious what your UI looks like

[novel star]

on horror you switch over to the tank add

and spatter off that

[thin dock]

yo guys, is spell density setting bugged?
I have so many things on my screen since patch

[strong vortex]

New meta?

[coral ibex]

people are mindless drones with or without dbm

[silver copper]

So overall did assasination get a buff or a nerf? How could be losing a skill turn into a buff?

[sick wasp]

haha true

[kindred hinge]

New m+ builds yes

[rugged sphinx]

lost watcher?

[spice spire]

What skill did we lose

[solar orbit]

what are you talking about?

[silk bane]

what

[coral ibex]

IS IT BOOM OR DOOM TELL ME NOW

TELL ME

BOOM OR DOOM

[strong vortex]

Overcharged looks a bit sad, beacuse they nerfed Overcharge effects... not full combo, but +2 😦

[spice spire]

Hi @silk bane

[spice spire]

5 booms

[silk bane]

hi @spice spire i misssed you

[brittle swift]

BDBDBOOM

[novel star]

yeah

[brittle swift]

i guess

[strong vortex]

But after 12 seconds of fight... you lost it :/

[warm vortex]

Just glancing down but yea
i guess i could go w the old build as i did that one well but idk

[silver copper]

empowered?

[spice spire]

I missed u(s)

[spice spire]

Replaced with supercharged

[novel star]

your tank grabs watcher and stacks it on the harbinger

[vagrant brook]

Yeah, you're right. I was thinking about it because I was always an Undead for like 15 years, but feeling like playing something different right now.

[novel star]

so u just spatter watcher and cleave off it

[silk bane]

Real af

[peak saffron]

is everyone else getting shit on in 10s by arcane and ele

[worldly bridge]

Sorry it has probbly been asked a billion times but for the MA // Subterfuge builds, what points do u take away to get 2/2 subterfuge?

[kindred hinge]

Lots of tests with subt / ma today dropping overcharge. The cooking question is what to drop to get the point. A few variations are tested

[spice spire]

Also got passive snd (essentially)

[solar orbit]

we're getting 9 CP envenoms in return lol

[peak saffron]

i assume its just because low mob health

[spice spire]

And a big talent change

[royal lantern]

oh hey, launch hearthstone meta?

[solar orbit]

Ele is BUSTED right now

[peak saffron]

yeah its insane

[coral ibex]

you look down at your bars but you dont wanna look at a weakaura you can place near your feet to track via pheripheral vision... make it make sense

[uneven summit]

my without a trace sims quite abit higher in m+

[kindred hinge]

The next (insert generic mmo name) will kill wow. Even booming is dooming

[undone eagle]

wait buzzing rune and primal whetstone is no longer available? 😢

[rotund oak]

same thing but i was human for 20 years and switched to mechanical baby for a while but already misssing the human beautiful hair

[coral ibex]

i played troll for many years bc kick high mon

but swapped to belf bc cute

[rotund oak]

i dont rly care though,ive got almost all races a rogue can be

so its whatever

[warm vortex]

Might just try and keep one envenom buff up then do 2 in cds tbh

[solar orbit]

just swap to nelf :D

[rotund oak]

i just miss human,coz its just the best

will to survive > all

[inner current]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[vagrant brook]

I'm also tired of 90% of transmogs looking like shit on undead xD

[arctic socket]

Dyathr human female looks cute

The hairstyles are great

[solar orbit]

that change killed human in pvp

[arctic socket]

Highlights

Ahhhhhh

[spice spire]

Why not just go human then

[arctic socket]

Dragon form looks absolutely hideous

[proper tapir]

Folks, a lot of posts asking what Subterfuge build to play in M+; it depends on how much you love IW. My favorite is IW build MA#2 (Sudden Demise), but just do whatever Whispyr says once he says it. In the meantime -

Regular Builds (DSlice):
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7VivmpEdPkZjVNZT6DDeK6

Iron Wire Builds (DSlice):
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pnuD1VF4qvSEafdQ1nAjVq

**How do you play Subterfuge/MA? **
Just Vanish during the last 12 sec on KB, this is for MA. Other than that, just try to keep Imp Garrote up as long as you can, use Garrote in the last 3 seconds of the Imp Garrote buff (even if you aren’t in pandemic yet).

[rotund oak]

kinda but its also a meta shift as well.Mages still wanna be humans and rogues as well into teams that have stun as a kill condition

[dusty crescent]

i was going to do it but like.. they made the swipe evoker only

[balmy prism]

jesus first key of the patch damn it feels good

[coral ibex]

i agree, trying to decide if i want to swap or just make a new rogue

[solar orbit]

why would rogues want to be humans when they can just be nelfs :D

[warm vortex]

Might just go back to VV in st i feel like im doing worse anyway

[arctic socket]

You still get a knock back which is really useful

Pushing those hard headed casters

[arctic socket]

Yours has scales? Eeeewww

[dusty crescent]

hmmm

[rotund oak]

because u cant meld if u are stunned,u die in there.Human eliminates the factor of dying into a stun,its that simple

[dusty crescent]

Just for an additional stop may be worth...

[coral ibex]

of course, luv me dragon girls

[arctic socket]

Only reason I swapped honestly was because of the human form hairstyles

[novel star]

fuck dracthyr

mid animations

[arctic socket]

Since they were cute

[hushed elbow]

female undead has S tier animations

[undone eagle]

new patch makes me feel like hercules

[ocean ferry]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[dusty crescent]

just use tmorph

?

[rotund oak]

bis race into priests/locks and anything that could fear/charm

[quasi stump]

[ocean ferry]

!talents

[royal lantern]

mate, you are 1 of the 3 people that play pvp

[warm vortex]

Anyone know how muhc of a diffrence TTK and master ass is over 2x VV

[soft merlin]

@balmy condor we dont ignore CtW proccs in st now, or?

[royal lantern]

ofc not

you use them

[wise whale]

never

always consume

[past marten]

How exactly does KB double dip MA?

[coral ibex]

dude ping him again

[soft merlin]

perfect

[coral ibex]

for a question chat can answer

[rotund oak]

its my past man..im not competitive anymore but u cant just erase the memories and all.Its like talking to a veteran of war,u will hear stories for sure..

[wise whale]

it double dips lethality

not master assasin

[woven locust]

are there any assa bugs

[wise whale]

ofc

[dim yacht]

yeah, were losing our deathstalkers mark again

[novel star]

on my character its pretty bad

[novel star]

dont know why you have to ping him for this but yes

the logic hasnt changed at all on ctw

we just dont take venoms anymore

which was the condition for not using ctw

[thin plinth]

guys can someone explain to me how the change with supercharger works ?

[wise whale]

hit shiv

[warm vortex]

Also DS mark dissapearing doesnt help me with this energy lol

[wise whale]

next finisher consumes 2 extra

profit

[novel star]

you press shiv and your next finisher deals damage like it had +2cp

[heady solstice]

Dont have to press SND anymore but now Darkest Night constantly falls off in keys, why cant you do anything right blizzard holy shit

[cobalt sphinx]

i think you might be okay to just totally ignore supercharger entirely

[warm vortex]

oof

[soft merlin]

trust issues, go straight to the raid boss

[golden loom]

Supercharger plays it self

[warm zenith]

Hey guys the mage discord is on fire how’s assass doing post patch

[warm vortex]

I think ill just play like assa did pre patch but get 2 stacks during Kings

[thin plinth]

and here for example i havent shived, what do the blue points mean ?

[past marten]

Sorry, that's what I meant. How does it double dip lethality? I don't get the mechanic that allows for that

[novel star]

my point is just that like

ur pinging whispyr for something that was already answered in whispyrs guide 2 months ago

on wowhead

[cobalt sphinx]

is your weakaura just outdated

[novel star]

[thin plinth]

maybe 😄

[novel star]

Probably outdated weakaura showing ER points

[wise whale]

so alot of people dont realize KB is a generator, it generates a CP. therefore it benefits from lethality. it's double dipping on the critical damage bonus in lethality's tooltip

[golden loom]

Or it just means that if you have 1 CP its the same as 3

[lucid silo]

any of this BRD gear actually good?

[runic terrace]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[arctic socket]

Not rly

[fierce sigil]

Does somebody Else feel Weaker than before the Patch??

[arctic socket]

If you’re shit geared to do it

[novel star]

nope

[wise whale]

ur trolling

[vital dew]

I absolutely ADORE assassinations cleave kit. this is really fun to play with

[novel star]

i feel about 6% stronger because the buff made sin about 6% stronger

[slow snow]

does bubbling wax work on both weps or should I run something else on 2nd wep. trying to save gold

[novel star]

[marsh falcon]

[novel star]

use mana oil or a dragonflight buzzing rune

on 2nd wep

[arctic socket]

I feel about 30% stronger since I don’t have to press er

[tiny inlet]

!wa

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[arctic socket]

And I got a new feint bind

[novel star]

buzzing runes are honestly legit good

[slow snow]

they killed runes

[novel star]

oh did they nerf that this patch

[slow snow]

no longer work at our level

[golden loom]

Feint feels so fucking goooood

[distant birch]

Is nightly sim ok rn ?

Or still bugged

[novel star]

ah yeah

they did nerf that this patch

ok use mana oil then

[mellow creek]

Is it confirmed that supercharger doesn't apply deathstalker's mark again? similar to old echoing before they fixed it?

[novel star]

im not surprised they fixed runes honestly

[arctic socket]

Yup

[novel star]

shit was like 3k dps lower than a tier 2 mana oil

[short sedge]

Do you play MA with subterfuge in m+, or just by itself? If so what do you remove for it?

[novel star]

lol

[thorn fjord]

I’m still slamming my Snd bind lol I had to remove the button to not waste cp

[wise whale]

yes, DN bugged w/ supercharger

[novel star]

i removed that bitch before my first ever dummy fight

cause i knew id do the same

lol

[arctic socket]

I’m confused as of why they gave us the option to press it

Like why

[jagged comet]

!wa

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[mellow creek]

I cry everytime

[fierce sigil]

But… er is gone and i have to Build more often to 7 cp Feels very Bad tbh

[arctic socket]

It doesn’t

[heady solstice]

Only thing comes to minds, Tea is constantly on cooldown now in keys, cant get used to not spending energy how i want to as before

[wise whale]

yea ur right reroll fdk

[subtle tundra]

ok subterfuge goes kinda hard

[lucid silo]

just start blasting

[arctic socket]

You liking them iron wire silences

[heady solstice]

I am

[lucid silo]

https://tenor.com/view/started-blasting-gun-eyeglasses-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-gif-16955226

[warm vortex]

Assa feels unfun after the patch now :(

[thorn fjord]

Sucks just reroll then

[pulsar plank]

I shouldnt be going below 30 energy right?

[wise whale]

try sub i guess

[vital dew]

only big change was .. well tea and no longer snd'ing

[arctic socket]

Drop the build you’re cooking with @subtle tundra

[kindred hinge]

Nothing changed?

[novel star]

i think it feels more fun

[subtle tundra]

it does in raid

[vital dew]

one of those is a very good change

[real pike]

holy FUCK the disappearing DsM bug is horrific, just did a 12 Dawn and it went like every other pack, was a difference between timing it and not

[novel star]

well

[marsh falcon]

are you also a ER mini game enjoyer?

[lucid silo]

honestly it feels almost exactly the same but removed some bloat lol

[novel star]

raid is a little less interesting

but i deal more damage

so whatever

[subtle tundra]

pretty basic

[short sedge]

Do you play MA with subterfuge in m+, or just by itself? If so what do you remove for it

[warm vortex]

Opposite i didnt like it

[marsh falcon]

oh

whats up then

[subtle tundra]

though

[wise whale]

no lethality?

[subtle tundra]

ds dissapearing

[vital dew]

oh yeah and death to ER

[subtle tundra]

ergh

[lucid silo]

we double vanish bois now?

[pulsar plank]

is this wrong?

[arctic socket]

Doing anything funky with MA?

[real pike]

it's awful, like so so often

[vital dew]

I dont like kyrian stuff anyway on my shadowy evil rogue appearances lol

[slate crown]

I didn't care about the mini game. I cared about the pretty colors which are now gone forever

[subtle tundra]

double vanish felt good to me

[warm vortex]

But im just running out of energy and can't keep double TTK up at all in st
Like in burst i can, but it's super annoying so im trying to even just do one envenom sta k but with DD dissapearing so much i can't even do that

[novel star]

dsm hasnt disappeared for me at all yet

[proper trail]

Question, is there a reason to track double envenom? Wouldn't most scenarios where maintaining double envenom (KB) window, be spending spare combos on envenom anyways?

[grim jay]

you can play around it

[novel star]

in raid at least

[grim jay]

atleast

[novel star]

maybe in keys its fucked

[cinder parrot]

!talents

[faint vessel]

WA to make random colors on combo points?

[real pike]

pls explain

[thorn fjord]

So many hot takes haha

[faint vessel]

youve already got most of it ready!

[distant birch]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[proper tapir]

I got you #assassination message

[cobalt sphinx]

do you hate the loss of boner spikes

[golden loom]

Ur not supposed to have 200% uptime on envenom @warm vortex

[subtle tundra]

i dont usually vanish on cd so i would waste vanish uses

[latent bluff]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[harsh anchor]

I lost mine on ovinax a lot last night

[slate crown]

No if the colors were in a WA I could make whatever lightshow I want

[wise whale]

ty for your work on the weakaura pack ❤️

[arctic socket]

That pooling is outdated

[faint vessel]

exactly

[vital dew]

some builds still use it

[warm vortex]

Yea ik but was told to aim for it at least

[subtle tundra]

yes and no
its weird until you get used to it

[faint vessel]

just go wild

[unborn barn]

!wa

[faint vessel]

id use it

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[warm vortex]

might become a boomie main tbh

a degen owl boy

[grim jay]

mark should only disappear if you either move max range from the mob or kill the mob with the 7cp envenom, so just dont move if you wanna apply and dont cheese damage on low hp mobs for the time being

[dim yacht]

ive got a hot take that will surely get people to roast me, im trying a non iron wire build

[subtle tundra]

and MA makes fok actually give CP, so its easy to get another for another finisher

[novel star]

"aim for 200% env uptime" as in "aim for the sky because we have no reachable limit anymore"

not like aim for it cause its actually realistic to hit

[grim jay]

the world is your oyster, if you wanna do suboptimal stuff, the power is yours

[arctic socket]

Did you feel like you saw a decent buff in single target damage picking up ttk?

[bronze flicker]

!sims

[prisma monolith]

Simulations:
Bloodmallet: https://bloodmallet.com/index.html

[cinder parrot]

What does your talent page look like if you're playing echoing reprimand?

[vital dew]

thats suicide imo. Iron wire is like.. one of our main group benefits

[bronze flicker]

anyone have darkthyr sims ?

[grim jay]

its mid

[real pike]

interesting use of the word 'cheese' but what's max range like 100yd or something?

[arctic socket]

Same as the other races

[short sedge]

Thanks, I removed sanguine blades for sudden demise though

[arctic socket]

Mid of the pack

[subtle tundra]

i played a key and i did without details on

[dim yacht]

yeah probably, but i like to cook new stuff so ima try it on a low key

[subtle tundra]

so i couldnt tell you

[barren island]

idk, feels useless

[short sedge]

Feels wrongplaying without it 🫡

[rotund oak]

its cringe

[arctic socket]

How’s the feelcraft

[grim jay]

your envenom doesnt have 100yd range.

[subtle tundra]

i did go into a 14 and shit wasnt dying fast

[grim jay]

!wa

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[barren island]

what diff that would make

[arctic socket]

Were you with two ele shamans? 😂

[real pike]

kind of an ambiguous term so I have to stay within melee range of the mob the entire time to keep DsM up?

doesn't seem always viable

[subtle tundra]

you can use vanish to actually redot

[stray adder]

Ele shamans be cooking the servers in dornogal just blasting dummies

[barren island]

the dps dif is minimum

[vital dew]

mastery is our second most important stat so like.. it'll be a decent race for us. but like play what you enjoy not whats good you're gonna be staring at the characters ass for a long time

[grim jay]

it disappears if you envenom and move out of melee range before it applied marks was what people observed

[subtle tundra]

ok not arguing this, you do you

[cobalt sphinx]

this is almost 100% uptime on envenom on rash because every gap is the movement and i just spammed envenom lol

[subtle tundra]

dont fucking give a shit

[cobalt sphinx]

you don't run out of energy just spamming

[warm vortex]

Still confused by what you mean

[real pike]

right so in the split second

[barren island]

not a matter of arguing, it was beaten to death actually lol, its the same talk about being able to restealth or not, the dif is literally minimum

[subtle tundra]

ill play without a trace if i want

yea not

[grim jay]

basically

[subtle tundra]

LOL

[novel star]

so think about before

[real pike]

and that's separate to the 7cp envenom kill

[novel star]

where you probably werent getting true 100% uptime on bosses

but you still aimed for it

and felt good about 95+

[subtle cipher]

so dont talk about it here lmao

[novel star]

you cant get 200% envenom uptime

but you still play to max out 2stack uptime

and get as close as possible

[subtle tundra]

he started talking about me playing it

i didnt

[subtle cipher]

yeah, cuz its shit, he is right

[atomic creek]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[subtle tundra]

ok 🙂

its shit but i will play it

[proven jasper]

bro its not that big of deal

[barren island]

dont talk about it 11!1!

[proven jasper]

he will play what he want

[subtle cipher]

[proven jasper]

why argue with him

[golden loom]

You even have more playroom to just mash envenom if you want aswell

[cobalt sphinx]

you must obey the sims

[mighty torrent]

!wa

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[barren island]

read up

[novel star]

now 100% envenom uptime you get with your eyes closed but the "new goal" is really the same as the old goal, get uptime as high as possible

[proven jasper]

Im not going to read up because i know why you’re arguing

[coral ibex]

also higher env uptime means more poison applications which means more energy which means more envenoms

[proven jasper]

Again

Who cares

[barren island]

you dont

lol

you do

[proven jasper]

?

[subtle cipher]

lmao this discord today

so sadge

[barren island]

ikr

full of weirdos

[subtle tundra]

if i have to choose between better vanish usages and 1 point in lethality, i know what im going

[proven jasper]

the guy will play what he wants to why do you care

[barren epoch]

it's every day bro

[faint vessel]

guys we got buffed and got rid of keybinds

[warm vortex]

Ah so i jsut try getting 2 stacks when i can

not 24/7

[faint vessel]

lets vibe

[warm vortex]

just when i can, considering how much energy i have

[novel star]

Ye

[warm vortex]

Cheers :D

[novel star]

dont be sad when its not possible cause thatll just happen sometimes

but always have 2 as much as you can

[hollow cedar]

why no sbs if i may ask ?

[vital dew]

i just realized the buff for mastery from tea is only 6 seconds.. dots dont screenshot anymore right?

[coral ibex]

dont be sad you failed, be happy you had 160% uptime

🙂

[young dust]

so...moar envenoms equal moar envenoms?

[sinful shale]

yea I can deal with our hero talent just fuckin malfunctioning

[coral ibex]

literally yes

[faint vessel]

we'll live

[subtle tundra]

idk when zerocool was playing without a trace when it was legit a fucking 4 point investment it was good
now i do it as a 1 point investment and im a troll

[velvet bridge]

Hello, does night elf racial bug ? I switched my rogue and it doesnt permit me to go in stealth

[outer marten]

Sin hasnt felt this good in ages. We dropped 2 gcds on burst window, our normal rotation is much more fluid and flexible. Who care how one person or the other wants to "optimize" their talents

[clever sapphire]

it happened to me here on ovinax, not sure if its still talked about but i had to vanish to reapply it after i used up the first 3 marks

wait that shit was talked about quite some time ago

[arctic socket]

You’re not a streamer

That’s the problem

[barren island]

[warm vortex]

Yeye

[cobalt sphinx]

the sims say stealth isn't that useful and you MUST obey the sims

[warm vortex]

i might aim a bit lower because personally i have energy problems

[subtle tundra]

for me atleast, sbs was more of a crutch to IC rupture spread
with subterfuge i have time to do ruptures

[coral ibex]

WAT IS A LOSS DO NOT TAKE IT!!! WAT = DOOM!!!

[novel moss]

!wa

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[warm vortex]

But idk how much of that is due to DS mark

[queen cosmos]

!TEA

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[marsh falcon]

it hasnt allowed me to restealth on bosses or packs

[sinful shale]

yea I had it happen on Sikran,Princess,Court

[warm vortex]

I / Ii / I I / I_

[hollow cedar]

thx, think will try it too

[barren island]

the point is that this was beaten to death already, applying multiple ruptures/garrote faster with vanish or manually the dif is minimal, its simple

[subtle tundra]

i guess cause i dont play 12 hours a day from patch start my opinion matters less

[ebon prism]

oh, do we always tea when we shiv, like 100%?

[clever sapphire]

did it happen to you during bl?

[harsh anchor]

is this loss

[velvet bridge]

what's the point of it then ?

[subtle tundra]

do you know i play MA

[grand cedar]

!wa

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[sinful shale]

On Sikran yea

[marsh falcon]

you can completely dodge targeted spells from bosses and mobs

[warm vortex]

This ST and Aoe?

[subtle tundra]

and do you know MA is legit insane?

[outer marten]

Oh, this is a thing? I thought I was just being dumb or something, couple times I couldn't stealth between trash packs. Guess another point on my list for going flappyboi

[barren island]

it was simmed with MA, and?

not what the sims showed

[thin plinth]

how is it not a damage loss now that we can only have charged combo points after using shiv

[barren island]

but gl

[arctic socket]

How

[clever sapphire]

aight im too dumb to figure out why its dropping, i will leave that to the smart guys

[arctic socket]

Is it pumping garrote / rupture?

[novel star]

supercharger is a worse talent than ER but we gain damage from all of the other changes

[subtle cipher]

dude is a troll

and you are all falling for it

[subtle tundra]

LOL

[thin plinth]

i see i see

[subtle tundra]

idk buddy

[novel star]

you cant just compare er to supercharger and say we should be overall nerfed because one talent was nerfed

ttk is an absurd buff

[subtle tundra]

do i have to put my credentials in here?

[tough widget]

guys is wowhead up to date for raid talents?

[barren island]

no no, sims are wrong

he is right

fuck sims

[subtle tundra]

so i can tell people im actually good at the game

[coral ibex]

just dont post your IO

[thin plinth]

what is ttk

[slate crown]

no ur a turtle

[novel star]

twist the knife

[subtle cipher]

[thorn fjord]

ANOTHER TURTLE HAS REACHED THE WATER

[gloomy tusk]

atm this is the highest sim on my character

[slate crown]

what more cred do you need than turtle

[raven panther]

I use the last WA from whisper, but the border are really weird, you can see it well around vanish and between KB and Deathmark. I have some black border, do you know where it can com from ?

[proven jasper]

Nah dude everyone in here is an EXPERT you obviously know nothing

[grizzled ember]

I go to bed with you guys yappin and wake up to the same guys yappin. Do you sleep?

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/i-like-turtles-zombie-kid-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-tortoise-tortuga-gif-16340543

[novel star]

Put io and mythic prog in nick

[ebon prism]

where is whispyr's new subterfuge M+ build?

[tired gull]

lfr gearbox LET'S GO

[marsh falcon]

on this point, is not being able to stealth when tanks are chain pulling just something you have to suck up?

[slate crown]

god damn the sleeper police living up to your name

[subtle tundra]

Gamer Varas WR 25, previous Rank 1 Assa

[novel star]

LMAO

[subtle tundra]

(retired, lack of time)

[final star]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[barren island]

he is waiting for @subtle tundra mr gamer send it to him

[flat sleet]

anyonee has a clip with an dractyr animations in a fight?

[barren island]

he is letting him cook

[subtle cipher]

LMAO

[clever sapphire]

"retired" see cant trust you

[outer marten]

Generally yes, but I was out of combat and unable to stealth a few times

[timber gate]

Boys what is the best M+ talents now?

[raven panther]

I use the last WA from whisper, but the border are really weird, you can see it well around vanish and between KB and Deathmark. I have some black border, do you know where it can com from ?

[thin plinth]

i use the talents from wowhead and they dont use ttk 😄 😄

[coral ibex]

are you being deliberately regarded? whisp was testing sub builds last night

[warm vortex]

Do we always use supercharge for envenom

[ebon prism]

i thought whispyr and varas already cooked it up!! i need to do keys now and i want the juice

[subtle tundra]

sorry i have a fucking job and university at the same time and i cant no life, L am i right?

[spice spire]

L bozo

[proper tapir]

I talked about this here: #assassination message

[coral ibex]

i swear this milk guy is a troll

[arctic socket]

Massive L

[barren island]

did you deliberately regarded? skipped what he said about it?

[ionic wasp]

!wa

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[barren island]

[ionic fox]

Just look at what the top M+ rogues are running

[manic quartz]

Riddle me this, how do we play around ttk now? im super duper confused

[arctic socket]

You press envenom

[clever sapphire]

ye because since then people have started cooking some builds, but i havent seen a clear "this is da winner" build yet

[spice spire]

Send er bud

Just send er

[slate crown]

That's because Whispyr's icons for the ones without borders are from him/afenar, the garrote and rupture are from me and I add borders to my icons.

[outer marten]

Full fucking send

[coral ibex]

yea this milk guy is legit trolling lmao

lmfao

[clever sapphire]

but we lost er

[thin plinth]

do you have a link with the ttk talent tree ?

[clever sapphire]

how do i send it

[coral ibex]

weird ass milker

[manic quartz]

so we spam envenom and dont pool anymore?

[barren island]

so you dont? thx for proving me ❤️

[outer marten]

Everything you were doing before, but harder and faster

[spice spire]

Yeah I lost her 11 months ago but we move forward

[coral ibex]

are you bread? how did you get proved

[spice spire]

If I had a nickel

[thin plinth]

send it on dm

[clever sapphire]

its this i think

[subtle cipher]

he has new member tag

[timber gate]

so fck the TTK

[subtle cipher]

dont even waste your time

[timber gate]

?

[arctic socket]

@subtle tundra I want the juice behind why MA is busted

[vital dew]

Dracthyr is middle of the pack, on par with like gnome/goblin/nelf/dwarf/kul tiran. Play it if you feel pretty, otherwise whatever
For those asking about dracthyr sims

[barren island]

oh lol new member

nvm

[pine zephyr]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[spice spire]

It does big damooj

[slate crown]

If you want borders, go into the display tab for the shiv/kb/dm and scroll down and find any borders or add one, make them chunkier, look at Garrote / rupture to see how the border is configured and do the same thing in the others

[clever sapphire]

that was a meme about "send er" because er = echoing reprimand and we lost it so cant send it

[restive inlet]

good macro!

[subtle tundra]

well 12 seconds of 25% crit is just reallllly good

[spice spire]

Seems easy

[coral ibex]

gonna be really funny when whisp posts later about how sub builds are pretty solid and playable

you guys are seriously so dumb

keep jerkin

[arctic socket]

Sub is Doodoo

[spice spire]

On it chief

[subtle cipher]

gotta wait for whisp instead of mr nobody ty

[barren island]

LOL

[queen cosmos]

!wa

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[spice spire]

Can we not flame each other

And continue to flame the real enemies

Mages and locks

[coral ibex]

idk this guy is really mad about someone else's talents

[spice spire]

Ty

[arctic socket]

Shoulda said noojbody to make it funny

[subtle tundra]

dks?

[thorn fjord]

FLAME ME DADDY

[spice spire]

Nah they’re chill

[grim jay]

I mean he did already yknow

[warm vortex]

Ok i was just being stupid

[spice spire]

They had their own menty b

[warm vortex]

this feels the same

[arctic socket]

Your parses say enough

Trash

[subtle tundra]

i need to flame shamans now, my gm is one

[thorn fjord]

We private log now 😦

[spice spire]

So do yours pal

[spice spire]

Speak ur truth king

[arctic socket]

Yours*

[celest crescent]

!wa

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[ebon prism]

@subtle tundra do you have the new subterfuge m+ build? i cant find it anywhere

[spice spire]

Nah the only thing that’s mine is ur pops

[subtle tundra]

if you want sbs you drop sanguine and sudden

[grim jay]

what about me

[junior fiber]

!wa

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[celest crescent]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[grim jay]

you can check the pins

[spice spire]

It’s in the second pin

[manic quartz]

So if i'm not on CD's do i aim to have two stacks of envenom as long as i can? aka if i have 2x envenom running i shouldnt use envenom untill one of them runs out?

[subtle tundra]

theres plenty of variatios though

[spice spire]

It tells you what to drop for it 🙂

[spice spire]

Quiet kitten, the adults are speaking

[coral ibex]

aim for as much env uptime as you can

[timber gate]

what is the highest simming dmg aoe / st?

talent?

[merry bison]

I‘m sitting clean on a mil now, only thing I changed was getting rid of my outlaw gear tho

[ocean ferry]

With MA what’s the condition to pop vanish?

[spice spire]

St or m+

St it’s final 6s of kb

[thorn fjord]

i dont wanna drop sudden demise 😦

[balmy condor]

Pins

Pins

Pins

[celest crescent]

any dracthyrs here? can you use human from in combat or still remain a dragon in combat?

[flat sleet]

xD

[balmy condor]

Pins

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/check-the-pins-kowalski-penguin-gif-20219688

[spice spire]

Pins

[merry bison]

Did u say pins

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/jill-larson-shutter-island-shh-be-quiet-silence-gif-25086339

[stray adder]

you should be able to stay in human form

[nova aspen]

pins backwards is snip

[desert cove]

I really liked the part of the pin that was just going off about supercharger tracking

[balmy condor]

Can remain human for non-evoker

[stray adder]

it's just evoker that cannot

[thorn fjord]

my wife at 2am when im making too much noise

[proven jasper]

open wowhead

[jaunty matrix]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[dim yacht]

what about m+

[thorn fjord]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[timber gate]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[spice spire]

Dieslow’s wife at 2am when I’m making too much noise

[grim jay]

[spice spire]

Pinnethy

[thorn fjord]

damn man you too? 😦

[fervent relic]

Is anything from Blackrock Raid worth getting?

[thorn fjord]

nope

[balmy condor]

Pins

[desert cove]

nope, it also is detailed in the pins

[spice spire]

No but to hear from cute wowhead man - pins

[thorn fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/hellraiser-pinhead-what-coolstorybro-head-gif-4593768

[balmy condor]

Screaming

[grim jay]

how will the weather be tomorrow?

[cobalt sphinx]

guitar hero ttk tracker

[spice spire]

Patch day baby

[grim jay]

is it in the pins?

[thorn fjord]

Whispyr woke up and violence chose him

[warm vortex]

How much is everyone doing on dummies n shiz
like im gettin 1 Mil after around 2 min on a dummy

ST

[cinder quartz]

hi whispyr i hope you're having a good morning

[ocean ferry]

And m+?

[spice spire]

Pinnethy

[grim jay]

last time I touched a dummy on my rogue was 1974

[cinder quartz]

hello assassination chat, i hope you're having a nice day

[nova aspen]

when there is a new pin, it should cover the discord chat and force u to open it before chatting

[quartz spear]

ass chat

[desert cove]

I'm ngl I was reading the pins and lowkey stressing out

[spice spire]

It’s not Tuesday or Thursday mister Joe

[desert cove]

too many options

[jaunty phoenix]

hey guys, i read the pins but sttill not sure what the best m+ build is... are we plaing ttf, subterfuge?

[hushed elbow]

anyone else hate subterfuge?

[vital dew]

anyone run the sims on the emerald dragonfang? it looksl ike it could be fun?

[balmy condor]

Not so far sadly I woke up and opened assa

[cinder quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/sparkle-on-its-wednesday-dont-forget-to-be-yourself-jerma-slay-gif-26287606

[manic wagon]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[cerulean maple]

delierately regarded?? is that supposed to be a sensored version for the r slur?? in which case do you realize how fucking stupid you look considering how little sense that makes as a sentence???

[vital dew]

Why would you do that

you poor poor soul

[late surge]

does spatter reach adds now on rashanan?

[coral ibex]

regarded as in well regarded by your peers of course, i don't evade chat filters

[subtle tundra]

i was bullied earlier

[novel star]

Leave this place it's bad

[grim jay]

I just had a seizure ty

[cerulean maple]

y

[hard sparrow]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[vital dew]

I have no frame of refernece but i hear its like 12 yard range now

[cerulean maple]

w

yw*

[twin spoke]

!guide

[velvet bridge]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[dim yacht]

i see nothing about when to use vanish in pins, only that its good

[thorn fjord]

But his name is openwowhead not CHECKPINS

[grim jay]

did they tell you your breath stinks?

[cerulean maple]

LMFAOO okay

anyway what was he cooking?

[coral ibex]

[cerulean maple]

subt builds?

[uneven summit]

You gotta imagine a better place, a place in 1-2 weeks where this channel is not flooded with doom and panic

[coral ibex]

bro is mad about sub builds

that other people are using

[timber gate]

tauren or dracythr for horde?

[stray adder]

why are we fighting

[coral ibex]

in keys that he's not in

[cerulean maple]

for fun

[stray adder]

this is a good day, snd is out

[subtle tundra]

they told me my build stinks

MAN WHY DID I JOIN A KEY WITH A SPRIEST

[novel star]

Brother

[subtle tundra]

I SAID I WOULDNT

[coral ibex]

whats wrong with spriest

[grim jay]

everything thats not tauren goblin or troll rogue

[novel star]

"When do we vanish?" "Check the pins" "The pins say nothing"

the pins:

[balmy condor]

Always has

[frail kettle]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[spice spire]

Second then let me double check

[novel star]

i'm gonna lose my mind

[balmy condor]

Just gotta stack adds under boss

[late surge]

rly?

[waxen oyster]

orc

[novel star]

its literally right there

[late surge]

oh

[timber gate]

really where did u find that

[novel star]

theres a whole section about vanishing

[cerulean maple]

subt looks good for aoe but i dont think its worth the point investment for st right @coral ibex

[waxen oyster]

if you care about sim number

[arctic socket]

New pinned builds when brotha?

[late surge]

my guild is griefing me ig

sadge

[timber gate]

is orc the best actually @waxen oyster ?

ofc i do care about dps the most

[grim jay]

well those races are obviously visually disgusting

[waxen oyster]

well horde is suboptimal

[coral ibex]

probably not, people take it for extra MA and iron wire time in m+

[spice surge]

Yes

[cerulean maple]

what about the drip

[timber gate]

can i sim that

[balmy condor]

The pins say builds tf do you want from me

[coral ibex]

and it is TECHNICALLY a loss vs non-sub builds but if you want the extra iron wire and MA then thats fine

[waxen oyster]

orc is always good first season

[coral ibex]

like you aren't trolling by playing a sub build

[waxen oyster]

for 2min specs

[thorn fjord]

he wants more work

[arctic socket]

^

[dapper halo]

the autouse of thistle tea neeeds to go away

[coral ibex]

maybe you're trolling playing WAT but meh

[stray adder]

Whispyr, more like Grumpyr amirite?

[uneven plume]

dropping sudden demise in M+ is absolute nasty work

[subtle tundra]

lets see this shadow priest dps on a 14 🔥

[warm vortex]

Ok now i see why you don't need to worry about the auto use thistle tea

[novel star]

it doesnt really matter tbh

[spice spire]

Oh you don’t vanish in m+ for the MA unless you’re st just an added bonus. Unless you skew through that and drop scent ig

[warm vortex]

If you macro it with shiv you just dont get it lmao

[royal lantern]

mate, if you need to ask, you are lightyears away from playing on a level where anything matters at all

[dapper halo]

its just annoying

[spice spire]

But vanish st for kb

[arctic socket]

The Meta down and dirty best dimming dps pissing gold

[coral ibex]

[plucky patio]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[spice spire]

For the double sin rogue tech

[timber gate]

mate u sure? ofc i need to see people's opinion i hate tauren rogue a lot

[coral ibex]

can't waste tea outside cooldowns if there's no tea to waste

[waxen oyster]

dwarf is just a better version

[timber gate]

!shiv

[warm vortex]

TRUE

[timber gate]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[balmy condor]

Spec needs a 20% nerf immediately the fotm brainrot in this channel is crazy

[spice spire]

Dog are you good

[arctic socket]

I should stop before he server times out me

[thick burrow]

Geeting back to rogue, had already read some Guides and pins, but am i going to be soo much Behind if playing fatebound on m+? @balmy condor

[rapid barn]

@balmy condor is there a pin on how to look at pins ?

[novel star]

HOLY BASED

[arctic socket]

Very

[velvet bridge]

the tea macro doesnt work for me, i have the game in french. I replaced the technique's names whith the french ones, but i guess the "null" at the end doesnt work. Somebody know what to do ?

[warm vortex]

also if you vanish the last 6 sec in kingsbane
do you use it to reapply garrote

[cerulean maple]

god yeah

[cinder quartz]

me: if only there was some way to check for commonly asked information
the humble search bar:

[royal lantern]

yes im sure, cus the handfull of people that play on the level where things like racials matter know it lol

[stray adder]

you want a nerf so people fuck off from the discord?

[balmy condor]

No

[spice spire]

Love to hear it homie hope you’ve a great day

[scenic nacelle]

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Shiv/Tea Macro
With this you will not accidently use more than 1 charge of tea if youre spamming:

/cast Shiv 
/castsequence reset=5 Thistle Tea, null

[royal lantern]

@balmy condor you didnt answer my DM

[dim yacht]

then what makes subterfuge good in m+ if were not playing around it for the vanish?

[warm vortex]

Mister whysper
what if we
open icyveins instead

[arctic socket]

The feel good juice is speaking

[timber gate]

Youre some weird nerd

[vital dew]

Looking at the delve build I assume we pick up tricks because brann can be targeted?

[balmy condor]

Make those people someone else’s problem

[brave swift]

master assasin

[pine ore]

is this wa broke after patch https://wago.io/OtohaQlq- ?

[cerulean maple]

builds on wowhead are updated for the latest cooking right

[spice spire]

Subterfuge effects more than just MA brother

[cobalt sphinx]

I hate it when people come here to learn

[spice spire]

[arctic socket]

Send them to fdk discord

[ebon prism]

how do i play with the new subterfuge/MA build in M+? i dont even know how subterfuge is useful but im new to sin rogue. dont we already use opener in m+ to ambush, garrote, rupture, rupture, garrote, crimson tempest? how did the extra 6 secs of stealth abilities help?

[cerulean maple]

not really

[arctic socket]

Seem like they need more

[subtle tundra]

please i beg for a nerf

[waxen oyster]

being called weird by a guy who thinks dps racials matter

[stray adder]

fdk discord was a warzone yesterday

[coral ibex]

they dont come to learn, they come to ping whispyr and ask for information in the pins/wowhead article

[waxen oyster]

[novel star]

I hate it when people come here to complain about what they dont understand without actually learning

[coral ibex]

get real

[pine ore]

disappears for me after 1st shiv

[warm vortex]

why

[lavish portal]

guys, what the way to go for m+ build?

[novel star]

people coming here to learn is great

[vital dew]

so was this place

[novel star]

but it only happens 1 in every 20 questions

[manic quartz]

If i have 2x envenoms running, is there point slamming envenom again untill one of the stacks runs out? like do i fucking spam it untill im out of energy or what?

[warm vortex]

talents

[stray adder]

they shutted down the fdk channel lol

[novel star]

19/20 are some fucking idiot whos just mad at air

[subtle tundra]

ok this is my highest sim

[vital dew]

fdk was a warzone because of last second nerfs

[coral ibex]

wait its been like an hour, can someone tell me if this patch is BOOM or DOOM please

[subtle tundra]

fuck sbs we here hate sbs

[coral ibex]

i forgot already

[cinder quartz]

[cerulean maple]

oh weird it worked fine for me earlier

[arctic socket]

Hello, guys what build is recommend for m+ and how should I press my buttons? Also when should I use my cooldowns

[warm vortex]

????
they were warranted no?

[vital dew]

Im sure whispyr wanted to shut down this channel for a bit tbh

[novel star]

Boom.

[dim yacht]

i get that it effects ironwire, it just doesnt seem impactful enough in the groups im in where very few casts get through to begin with

[warm vortex]

why is he naked

[past bobcat]

Is sin a good Aug target in raid?

[subtle tundra]

gipsy king

[arctic socket]

It’s becoming how outlaw was

[vital dew]

i agree but the point was they were last second so people couldnt prep for em, hence whining

[flat sleet]

bc it sims higher i think

[cinder quartz]

bro thinks he's sire denathrius

[random fossil]

no amount of dps gain will make me drop my beloved sbs

[warm vortex]

Fair

[balmy condor]

The problem is when their version of learning is asking insanely basic and well discussed questions expecting other people to take time out of their day to answer so they don’t have to do any research themselves

[thorn fjord]

What kind of toilet paper should i use?

[arctic socket]

@balmy condor enable slow mode in this chat like how outlaw had 👍

[blazing gale]

Yo guys, hope you are doing good.
Quick Question: I believe the new Talents on Wowhead are up to date from whysp
Shiv mentioned something about twist the knife in his latest video. Is there something to it?

[warm vortex]

i mean blizzard werent smart with the patch balance tbf

[spice spire]

It’s not really the learning bit.
It’s the demand for info on the spot.
Reading a guide and having questions is fine - missing something is also fine.
But just rawdogging questions that have 500 avenues for answers is wild

[subtle tundra]

ofc i killed that fucker and took his place