assassination

[severe wyvern]

with the talent stuff remade what do i do now with talents

[jaunty lotus]

It was fun for a few days

[haughty flicker]

i liked remix

[balmy condor]

read name

[haughty flicker]

but it was a bit too much of a grind for me

[lethal arrow]

check pins

[severe wyvern]

yes? i play assas

[haughty flicker]

and not having weapon arsenals for all the random world drops was silly

[coral ibex]

your next finisher gets +2/3 combo points

[balmy condor]

read my name again

[coral ibex]

regardless of where you finish

[vague solar]

What in the world. Why does fatebound sim better than deathstalker on disngle target all of a sudden?

[balmy condor]

the first time didn't help

[waxen thunder]

Are people using cast sequence macros for shiv/tea or something else

[vital flicker]

why open wowhead when I have discord open already?

[coral ibex]

HUH

[balmy condor]

I am yeh

maybe should be a command but we'll see how that develops

[jaunty lotus]

The mods here don't know anything, they just follow wowhead guides smh

[haughty flicker]

cast sequence macros pog

[cerulean nest]

can someone give me a smoothbrained explanation of the ovinax trinket

[lone yarrow]

drathyr ir's good for assas rogue ? x)

[balmy condor]

stacks over 20 bad

[cerulean nest]

and then should I "use" it on non-DM KB I guess?

[subtle tundra]

soow did without a trace apl get any more changes??? is to good?!?

[waxen thunder]

Perf thanks

[bronze plover]

so there should be min maxing in term of using shiv i guess

[coral ibex]

no

[balmy condor]

sure

[coral ibex]

you press shiv on CD

[vital flicker]

stand for 20 main stat and 10 secondary good, hit trinket, win

[coral ibex]

it empowers your next finisher

[balmy condor]

it's still worse but dungeonslice likes it

[cerulean nest]

sweet

[coral ibex]

you dont think about it

[vestal cliff]

Is there a weakaura for the double envenoms?

[coral ibex]

bc you press shiv during kb always

[balmy condor]

!wa

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[subtle tundra]

im happy with this response ty

[coral ibex]

only time you really have to think about it is in m+ when you have one shiv and it comes up before kb

but still, just press shiv on cd

dont think about it

[bronze plover]

so paying attention to that combo point that shiv craete is kinda useless

[coral ibex]

yes

just play normally

[bronze plover]

ty

[coral ibex]

just think "pressing shiv gives me more damage"

[subtle tundra]

yes its complete passive

ty blizzdong

[cerulean nest]

and just hit it whenever? or do you try to time it in terms of your cds

[vestal cliff]

Do i need to vanish ,double garrote in my second deathmark to have more improved garrote duration?

[subtle tundra]

no

you dont double gar

[worthy surge]

so i guess i dont need to press slice and dice anymore ?

[vague solar]

yeah you don't

[vestal cliff]

So just vanish garrote is enough?

[glad ferry]

Yeah i dont like how it feels

[summer mist]

Why is single target bad on ass in m+

[glad ferry]

I dont really understand why they made that change

[paper cloak]

someone got a m+ build?

[slow tulip]

well depends how many seconds left you have on the garrote

[vague solar]

this is crazy.
I sim 20k higher as fatebound. it is really back.

[summer viper]

whats the reason of putting 2 talent points into lethality over putting 2 talent points into supercharger?

[torpid lion]

wait does caustic spattter work on rash now?

[coral ibex]

more damage

[hollow whale]

kb double dips i think

[vague solar]

higher crit dmg on generaters

[jaunty matrix]

fatebound sims are skoom

[vague solar]

? meaning

[jaunty matrix]

[vague solar]

so deathstalker is better ?

[scenic nacelle]

!wa

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[slow tulip]

fb is scamaz

[summer viper]

ty

[jaunty matrix]

sim always gets better rng

than reality

[subtle tundra]

it was never gone

[slow tulip]

make it 100K and it is in ST atleast

[limber dew]

!build

[kindred imp]

Dawnthread seems to be very close to Ascension embelish in sims, but 80% of people run Ascension. Any special reason for that or just the way it is by chance? (I have dawnthread so wondering if its worth recrafting to ascension) :?

[limber dew]

what are the new ST and AOE builds?

[magic ginkgo]

so its twist the knife kinda just for cds's i feel like the 2 stacks run out p quick

[last oasis]

people still raid progging

[torpid lion]

was there a fix to caustic spatter on rash?

and it works now

cause before it wouldnt splash

[slow tulip]

it always did, depends how close the mobs are

[jaunty lotus]

You should track each one individually

[slow tulip]

usually they are not close enogh

[torpid lion]

tru

[distant hinge]

can i use sword in off hand?

[jaunty matrix]

no

[torpid lion]

more i think about it my guild really dont get close enough

[jaunty matrix]

sin and sub are dual dagger

[distant hinge]

sorry was making joke lol

[magic ginkgo]

oh so they're not like stacking the buff, thats interesting

[jaunty lotus]

I mean, you can, you just lose mutilate

[jaunty matrix]

oh

[distant hinge]

so many questions lol

[jaunty matrix]

[drifting basin]

what the fuck.... i was so certain i did 8 10s on my rogue

giga punished

[coral ibex]

scalawag ring is quite good tho

[keen spruce]

[summer viper]

ANLAAAAAAAAAAAAAKI

[drifting basin]

ring is good but it couldve been skardyns

holy

[slow tulip]

WASTED

[subtle mural]

Got spyglass myth with avoidance, but a bit uncertain if I should take it. Is it worth over skardyns and crystal both 626 hero?

Also got wings in vault 626

[stable pasture]

[fringe surge]

any m+ build for new talent tree?

[jaunty matrix]

i got mythic skardyn in vault back 2 back

[robust axle]

Wowhead

[jaunty matrix]

[glad ferry]

Nah

Nah

Nope

Nah

[jaunty matrix]

and the second time it came with a mythic ara kara trink too

[rain wraith]

i got all the good passive trinkets on myth track on my rogue now. and then i open myth skardyn on my monk

[glad ferry]

still dont have skardyn's 🙂

[empty pagoda]

is it normal that sikran sims better than treacherous? 😐

[glad ferry]

31 clears in

[rain wraith]

keep at it

[glad ferry]

idk if I have the strength boss

[rotund oak]

for a moment i thought i was in the pirate channel

[rain wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/just-do-it-do-it-flames-fire-shia-labeouf-gif-17696690

[indigo mulch]

[subtle tundra]

in m+ i might go 1 subter instead of 1 er

for qol

[glad ferry]

2k dps is huge

go for it

[indigo mulch]

[rotund oak]

if it sims higher and u want them 3k dps go for it

[balmy condor]

subterfuge is totally playable

[glad ferry]

Nice name

what does it mean

[rotund oak]

[winged sun]

Cya assa rogues

[rotund oak]

''dont ask stupid questions,guide is updated''

[rain wraith]

sub seem to be popping in m+ now

like better than they did before atleast xD

[subtle tundra]

hope they are happy

[rotund oak]

its better for sure

it got buffed

[subtle tundra]

i would not mind sub being good

[stable pasture]

with +800 speed kek

[subtle tundra]

id play it

[rotund oak]

that can be quote mined for further use bro

[worthy surge]

do i even press slice and dice at all now or just use the new talent

[rotund oak]

[rain wraith]

do they get dance every sod now?

[subtle tundra]

ill play you

like a fiddle

[rotund oak]

yes but hop in the sub channel

[rotund oak]

[robust axle]

Wait whats the weekly for spark on EU this week?

[thin dock]

morning lads, whats our cookie cutter build for high keys now?

[rain wraith]

might go sub for a while after experiencing sin channel all day

seems nicer there

[cinder bone]

they really made BRD harder than anubar palace lmao

[empty pagoda]

is it normal that sikran sims better than treacherous? 😐

[glad ferry]

yeah that was the joke

[balmy condor]

god I wish without a trace was just reduced vanish cd

subterfuge is so nice

[cunning needle]

?????

are you okay

[subtle tundra]

he has had an epiphany

[cunning needle]

do we need to call for a wellness check?

[cinder bone]

someone call 911

[balmy condor]

????

[clever perch]

who's that

[opaque sigil]

Ye, I was watching some ele streams yesterday before sleep - it is cracked. In NW on 2nd boss in +12 ele pulled 3.8m without evoker. Aoe is just bonkers.

[heavy canopy]

Is "Emergency Stop" Keychain BiS for us?

[clever perch]

ur bis is the rare neck

[balmy condor]

me

[clever perch]

u're clean af

[rotund oak]

bis is the raid neck with the vers proc

[subtle tundra]

he is dirty af

unwashed

[rose wyvern]

how accurate is going for this

[clever perch]

i died in silken mythic and parsed a 1 as subt

[rotund oak]

definitely dirty af

[zenith cedar]

how do i maximize master assassin use

[clever perch]

i should be the new guide writter

[subtle tundra]

hahahaha i will blow my head off

[heavy canopy]

Right... Fuck me 🙂

[coral ibex]

press vanish during imp garrote pandemic

[opaque sigil]

Is there new developments on findings in tc research channel? About subterfuge+MA build simming better in dslice?

[dapper pumice]

how come everyone goes crystal at higher IO? does it sim higher? seems like sacbrood does per bloodmallet

[balmy condor]

wow players doing anything except simming themselves

[zenith cedar]

should i be using it on the last 6 seconds of KB/DM or so or at the very end to get a garrote in there?

[rose wyvern]

good because these are my stats, am low on mastery still and my full haste neck is still simming higher then mist neck from vault myth track

[rotund oak]

sry my heart is taken,we could smash sometime though

[rose wyvern]

i simmed myself then checked it

[subtle tundra]

wait youre not trolling

[coral ibex]

yes that's when you first use vanish in your opener, so you just always do that again

[subtle tundra]

what a day...

[balmy condor]

[zenith cedar]

cool thanks

[rotund oak]

whispyr abuse day

we torture the whispyr

[subtle tundra]

im in a jolly happy mood so its ok

[novel star]

OPEN WOWHEAD abuse day

[zenith cedar]

some tiny toxic rogues in this place

with tiny little ... blades

[novel star]

it’s an above average blade man

don’t be weird

[grim coral]

i got a quick question, my rl is wondering why binding of binding bis and i dont have an answer for him

[subtle tundra]

bis for heals !

[late gulch]

is hand of justice trinket any good from timewalking raid?

[sour relic]

did our talents change at all for M+?

[novel star]

wtf is a binding of binding man

[subtle tundra]

ney!

[cinder bone]

that trinket has outlaw written all over it

[novel star]

atm no

[coral ibex]

???

[desert wren]

😦

[glad ferry]

!wa

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[novel star]

but theories are being crafted

[glad ferry]

transmitter and neck is good

[cinder bone]

neck omegabis

[waxen oyster]

thats a good vault?

[olive tree]

is neck even in m+ bis?

[rotund oak]

neck is solid,weapon not bad?

[robust axle]

An actual question thats probably been answered 100 times, but I just woke up. Are we trying to pandemic each seperate application of Envenom?

[coral ibex]

we dont use binding of binding

[rotund oak]

yeah that neck is bis overall

[cinder bone]

im 2500 and using neck

heroic track

[rotund oak]

wow 2.5k

huge

[cinder bone]

i mean its top 10%

[grim coral]

my raid leader is asking why and i do not have an answer for him other than "bis list doesn't say it's bis"

[waxen oyster]

m+ bis

[zenith cedar]

bro has bis neck and transmitter in his vault and throws up a sad face

hell no

[waxen oyster]

[rotund oak]

no one is rly playing m+ rn but gz friend

[indigo mulch]

!wa

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[rotund oak]

just nothing to comend on flexing or not some r.io

[coral ibex]

why does your rl think you should be using binding of binding

[rotund oak]

no one rly cares

[waxen oyster]

why are we flexing 2.5

[novel gulch]

so opener do we not use garrote if we dont have shrouded suffocation"?

[coral ibex]

nobody is flexing, the guy just said his io in reference to using the sikran neck in m+

[blazing pumice]

sapzillas has a negative attitude

grats on 2500

[waxen oyster]

you need garrote up

[jaunty lotus]

You get an achievement, it must be good enough

[waxen oyster]

the point was it was being used as a weird "i'm knowledgeable" metric

[exotic salmon]

yo yo yo any interesting loot from the anniversary raid we should target? Like the dagger from second to last boss?

[torpid lion]

i miss when ass rogue was about the bleeds

[glad ferry]

So like, do I intentionally not press buttons to save thistle tea charges for burst windows or should I not care ? I'm genuienly puzzled. Ik its a 0.2% dps loss but still it feels so clunky not having tea

[rotund oak]

just ppl not understanding the meaning of words 😉

[zenith cedar]

Sikran neck -- 639 out of vault, thats alot of crests, very optimal to take it for short and medium term

[grim coral]

he is asking why its not bis considering its only like 100 secondary stat less overall and it has the proc

[waxen oyster]

rarely is

[torpid lion]

dont get me wrong im with the big envenoms, but bleeds being so little dam is kinda sad

[novel gulch]

so ambush > garrote > mutilate > rupture > mult x2 envenom > then Cds?

[torpid lion]

it was when i mythic raided with it for the first time

[waxen oyster]

you skip 2nd env

[subtle tundra]

yea thats a big problem of assa rn

[waxen oyster]

mut

if you get 5

[coral ibex]

because you dont get the proc and rogue isnt a support class

[subtle tundra]

thats very hard to fix from blizz

[coral ibex]

like

[novel star]

every dot spec has some instant damage spell as their highest damage

maybe not shadow acrually

[waxen oyster]

who tf uses binding of binding

[coral ibex]

why would you use an understatted ring that helps someone else

[waxen oyster]

besides

[coral ibex]

instead of a full stat ring

[waxen oyster]

aug

aug is a fake dps spec

though

[rain wraith]

wtf even is binding of binding what

[coral ibex]

its an rp ring for rp weddings

[rotund oak]

some pre-embelishment

[jaunty lotus]

Crafted ring

[rotund oak]

thingy

[rain wraith]

AAAAHHH

[novel star]

bingus crafted ring

[rain wraith]

do we even use that

[coral ibex]

no

[grim coral]

no

[rotund oak]

no

[novel star]

nobody uses it

[grim coral]

thats literally been the entire conversation ive beenhaving lol

[rain wraith]

GB and Boralus ring

[rose wyvern]

so am an idiot, because i simmed myself
then checked how some bis sim would look like with best secondary stat distribution
and asking about it or what

sim yourself, but dont go for best sim possible.
or its just not accurate

[rain wraith]

bis right

[grim coral]

ansurek and boralus ring i believe

[rain wraith]

well yeah

once u get ansurek ring

but would hero ansurek be better than myth dungeon rings even

[novel star]

yes by a mile

it’s not even close

[torpid lion]

ring with passive dam effect > ur wedding ring

[novel star]

champ ansurek ring probably beats myth dungeon rings

[rain wraith]

kinda hard to get tho

[subtle tundra]

this is why bis is stupid

[glad ferry]

Yo, so why not FoK mut instead of mut mut for CtW?

[subtle tundra]

so you understand

but cant realise it

[indigo mulch]

when i try to import whispyr's WA :S

[robust axle]

An actual question thats probably been answered 100 times, but I just woke up. Are we trying to pandemic each seperate application of Envenom?

[cinder steppe]

Its a neck angle right?

[rotund oak]

yup,its bis

[distant hinge]

it isnt a weak aura its a plater profile

[rotund oak]

idk what u are using in generla but could sim

[novel star]

Prolly yea, but sac is rarer so i’d sim

[grizzled ember]

I tried fatebound tonight on some bosses and wasn’t a fan. Probably just not familiar with it enough.

[novel star]

at least i think sac is rarer

[blazing pumice]

it is rarer

the dungeon pool is massive

[grim coral]

i have a LFR mad queens madate and it was like 20k dps better than a 619 main stat trinket i got

[novel star]

mandate is fucked

[rain wraith]

i think we were talking about the ring x)

[novel star]

i want that trinket

[waxen oyster]

619 ansurek is 5k better than my 626 boralus

[rotund oak]

mandate is funny af

love the trinket

[grim coral]

personally

i think it should have a window in which if the mob dies you get the CDR

[subtle tundra]

yea wouldve been cool to see one

or a rare item

[rain wraith]

got mandate last week from weekly cache 🥲

[waxen oyster]

why does everyone jerk off gb and boralus rings

[rotund oak]

true

[fallen arch]

Considering hybrid build, to get ttk, what do I drop preferably?

[subtle tundra]

or a myth item to pump my crests into

[novel star]

crit mastery!!!!

[subtle tundra]

i hate this game

[balmy condor]

probably sudden demise

[coral ibex]

...? good stats

[fallen arch]

Kk ty

[waxen oyster]

all stats are good

[subtle tundra]

for m+ stats you want crit mastery

so yea its understandable

[coral ibex]

the stats on those rings make my numbers go up more than the stats on other rings

idk what to tell you

[subtle tundra]

i jerk off myself, not items though

[fallen arch]

Less overall, more boss/prio correct for m+?

[waxen oyster]

prio my favorite

streamer buzzword

[grim coral]

depends on your group

[waxen oyster]

that 90% of players dont understand

[balmy condor]

ran this, was pretty okay

[fallen arch]

Less overall, more boss/prio correct for m+?

Ok ty

[balmy condor]

but man without a trace feels like shit

[frosty bridge]

what the heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell

[coral ibex]

WAT

[subtle tundra]

well this expansion it matters quite a lot, cause dungeon design is heavily skewed towards having a big guy with smallies around

[grim coral]

honestly im ngl

[waxen oyster]

LMAO whispyr

[balmy condor]

unreal how good subterfuge is

[waxen oyster]

why are you played the cursed tech

[grim coral]

im glad that echoing reprimand is gone

[balmy condor]

I have to try things

[cunning needle]

bro please

[subtle tundra]

well when you buff a talent by twice its value

[cunning needle]

i dont know if you are serious anymore

[balmy condor]

yeh

[kindred cobalt]

@balmy condor i do have the same question…

[subtle tundra]

nvm when you buff a talent by infinite its value

cause it was 0 before

[balmy condor]

macro tea to shiv and ignore it entirely

[grim coral]

that

[balmy condor]

??

[grim coral]

makes a lot of sense

[waxen oyster]

how do people reach the point

tea autoprocs

i was drowning in energy all night

[novel star]

feels so wrong to press 2 teas in opener but it for real just doesn’t matter anymore

[grizzled ember]

It seemed like you were joking about subterfuge

[novel star]

energy is a fake concept

[real granite]

this, in aoe and st both? every situation?

[balmy condor]

every situation

[frail geyser]

Blackrock depths daggers big for offhand?

[grim coral]

am i just severely fucknig up then? i feel relatively energy starved on ST

[subtle tundra]

this build is so cursed, LOL you go subter for more bleeds from ic -> drop all bleed dmg from sd and sanguine

[misty skiff]

has anyone made a combo point weakaura that properly handles supercharger yet?

[real granite]

another keybind that goes down, im starting to feel bad

[split flame]

M+ build without twist the knife in single target and boss fight feeels terrrrible

[waxen oyster]

also whispyr

[novel star]

i enjoy pressing tea but i should probably macro it

[waxen oyster]

why tf are my sims valuing crit so much

[zenith cedar]

wat -- its literally the same as before

[waxen oyster]

its already my highest stat

[supple pelican]

Is the shiv supercharger not actively empowering any CPs? I read the stuff about the mark/coin <5+ but I don't see it actually empowering any CP

[steel delta]

is this after nerfs?

[balmy condor]

yeah, every combo point weakaura should be handling it properly

cause you just like

don't do it

[supple pelican]

ah fuck just had the same question

[split flame]

its not ? we had echoing reprimand to save some energy

[runic hinge]

3 whole builders every 45 seconds

[misty skiff]

oh its not like a thing where you have to land on that combo point like reprimand?

[topaz isle]

Ara-Kara or Crystal when both doing M+ and raid?

[novel star]

nope

[misty skiff]

sick

[novel star]

that is removed

[misty skiff]

thanks

[kindred cobalt]

And the new changes, shiv now is used on cd?

[balmy condor]

shiv logic hasn't changed

[novel star]

no what you just press shiv normally

[supple pelican]

So it just empowers the next spender?

[waxen oyster]

we have way more energy with the patch

[grim coral]

ye

[novel star]

yep

[outer kernel]

not playing with Sudden Demise anymore? oO

[supple pelican]

Oh banger, that's tight

[balmy condor]

just trying things

[supple pelican]

[junior yoke]

In m+ is the same right?

[waxen oyster]

idk

[novel star]

Ye

[waxen oyster]

fake content

[novel star]

er was a little cringe imo

but idk

[waxen oyster]

how tf do you starve on energy in m+

[subtle tundra]

YOURE CRINGE

[novel star]

i’m mostly happy that i do 6% more damage than i did yesterday

[cobalt sphinx]

By pressing mutilate

[ancient compass]

Same energy, more Global uptime.

[novel star]

don’t care about much else

[balmy condor]

dungeonslice is cringe for wanting WAT

[junior yoke]

On bosses you actually can

[waxen oyster]

theres infinite things to bleed

[balmy condor]

this talent sucks

[novel star]

i know i’m sorry :(

[waxen oyster]

idk skill issue

[dapper pumice]

the worst part about farming grim batol is finding a group 😦

[balmy condor]

aight what build next

[coral ibex]

gb isn't even that bad

[misty comet]

thank god i got heroic skardyn in my vault today

[subtle tundra]

ok let me tell you something
assa st in raid was already top tier
assa st in m+ was dogshit and didnt get better
assa will probably get the hammer

[novel dock]

is there like a note about how to play 11.0.5 assassin ?

[bronze plover]

i spamed 60 times there to got trinket

[grizzled ember]

Took 55 GB’s to get my trinket, love that place

[balmy condor]

what about this

do we like this

[coral ibex]

yea go to www.wowhead.com and type "assassination" into the search bar

[novel star]

i know this but idc

[junior yoke]

Okay tthat’s nice to hear

[coral ibex]

there's a note about 11.0.5 assassin

[novel star]

i live for today

[vital flicker]

feint feels so good

[novel star]

[waxen oyster]

then you get gapped by the bm hunter

still

[supple pelican]

no amplify w/ twist seems odd. instant poison and deadly might not carry the weight?

[subtle tundra]

and in my opinion we are in the hands of blizzard to get targeted raid nerfs

[dapper pumice]

im at 90 so far including my fdk

[vital flicker]

ew

[bronze plover]

imagine did 4x heroic dung and 1x +10 and got gb trinket in heroic slot hahaha

[waxen oyster]

i got invites to gb pretty fast

[cunning needle]

listen to the voices. take the double vanish

youve already gone this far

[novel star]

yeah

[indigo mulch]

You sure your not over cooking here good sir?

[cunning needle]

just a little bit further

[dapper pumice]

lolll

[cunning needle]

🙂

[coral ibex]

based, was already going to run this tomorrow other than no sudden demise

[balmy condor]

no I just ran double vanish and it fucking sucks

[subtle tundra]

@balmy condor while playing wat i'd probably vanish for the crit if i have 2 stacks

[cunning needle]

[subtle tundra]

or close to 2

[coral ibex]

i want to try out 12s of iron wire

[balmy condor]

yeah honestly

[waxen oyster]

whispyr did lethality coke up the value

of crit on sims

[pseudo cosmos]

cooking to see if the sims arnt overcooking

seems legit

[cunning needle]

surely double vanish > 1% crit

[steel delta]

is fdk dedge now ? didnt see numbers

[balmy condor]

idk sure

[subtle tundra]

thing is, ruptures are too long so patchs die before you can vanish

[ancient compass]

Double vanish is highly unnecessary. Used to be good though. Now meh.

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah you would think so

but jesus christ

[subtle tundra]

so you vanish for garrote refresh and MA crit

[cunning needle]

[balmy condor]

it feels so uber pointless

[waxen oyster]

do you even play ma

[balmy condor]

I know dungeonslice loves it cause it's a 6 min sim

but like

[waxen oyster]

in m+ build

[balmy condor]

[waxen oyster]

pre sure you dont

[balmy condor]

yeh

this is good

[subtle tundra]

this is sad

[fallen arch]

Is supercharger so bad we just dont take it in m+?

[subtle tundra]

shit is such a fucking mess

LOL

[indigo mulch]

iron wire with subterfuge seams a bit broken ngl

[balmy condor]

lethality and subterfuge are probably just better

[subtle tundra]

what even is the point of sanguine

[balmy condor]

I mean it's supposed to be big bleed to trade for energy

but like

it's just weak

MA is cooked

[coral ibex]

all of the good talents pointing and laughing at sanguine

fucking loser

[subtle tundra]

i dont think its weak???? its just that we are stripped for points and MA got buffed to the moon

[waxen oyster]

back to amir style vanish for MA crit on kb?

/j

[balmy condor]

I mean yeah

not /j

[waxen oyster]

oh

[ancient compass]

Lol

[balmy condor]

especially in M+ it's nutty

[rotund oak]

in terms of dmg yeah but idk man,iron wire just controls the packs infinitely

[waxen oyster]

i was just feelcrafting it

in raid

[subtle tundra]

you have time to garrote anyways

so its not like you lose that

[balmy condor]

nah if you go MA + subt it's big dam

supercharger is decent

but it's not that good

MA is crazy good

[subtle tundra]

i cant wait to play it!

[rotund oak]

hope we get mark start working again coz im coinflippin' now

but thx for the input

[subtle tundra]

hopefully this weekend can do some pushing

[open venture]

damn could they not make tea change into a choice talent feelsbadman

[indigo mulch]

But is it really worth losing AMP poison for ST etc?

[balmy condor]

like to put this in perspective, I have 22% crit in my gear

[supple pelican]

thoughts on dropping wire for lightweight shiv as a 1:1 swap for damage if you don't need the dr?

[balmy condor]

I had 42% crit on KB

54% on env

[cunning needle]

when do you vanish with this?

[subtle tundra]

i wonder how much this devalues crit

you go full mast vers??

[limber lion]

Lol

[balmy condor]

probably could honestly

[subtle tundra]

more surv

[ancient compass]

Blizzard loves doing what no one asked for.. for your convenience.

[balmy condor]

you would take literally anything else

[rotund oak]

jokes u on boys,my gear is already vers/mast

😂

[balmy condor]

but just like

[indigo mulch]

it really sucks not having vers in high keys tbh

[balmy condor]

don't drop iron wire

why would you do that

[supple pelican]

Just curious, not every mob can be silenced and some dungeons just have less casters

[balmy condor]

yeh but the alternative is like

0.8% dps

[cunning needle]

because my job is to dps

🙂

[balmy condor]

even if there's 1 mob that you can iron wire

you just take it

[subtle tundra]

unless you push 15s you wont deplete with 0 deaths
just go the slightly less dps

[supple pelican]

i guess

[limber lion]

The DR is also good

[supple pelican]

15% is crazy

[frail geyser]

Utility is for augvokers

[limber lion]

Not just the silence

[supple pelican]

the DR only applies if the mob is silenced

[deep sorrel]

Especially if you pushing 15s go ironwire xddd

[subtle tundra]

utility is for timing keys 😎

[limber lion]

Yes

[balmy condor]

iron wire alone is better than augvoker lowkey

[coral ibex]

i like ironwire bc i dont wanna kick

[ancient compass]

I dropped it to expose my guildies who don't kick shit.

[coral ibex]

more ironwire less kicks

[supple pelican]

so some ogre boy with big mace no DR

[limber lion]

But if you're silencing mobs that are useless mobs with useless casts, it's still free dr

[waxen oyster]

i mean....

[south lava]

TEA CHANGES SUCKSSS

[waxen oyster]

droppign iron wire is so troll

[limber lion]

IW is a permapick

[zenith cedar]

ok but consider this recipe --

Subterfuge, Ironwire, Opressing roar

[balmy condor]

okay what about this shit

[subtle tundra]

buddy stop cosplaying me

[balmy condor]

fuck it we ball

[ancient compass]

Energy doesn't exist. It can't hurt you.

[coral ibex]

how are you dropping so low on energy so often

[undone flame]

how com that Dead-Eye Spyglass is listed as our best overall trinket but its an a tier trinket?

[quick condor]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[zenith cedar]

he like 2 hit button alot

[cinder bone]

pooling is unituitive and a boring playstyle

[south lava]

on ST it drops

[cinder bone]

easy to want to spend the energy

[balmy condor]

jesus christ

[subtle tundra]

i legit think dropping sbs, while it feels bad, is worth it with subterfuge
cause you have time to rupture spread regardless

[zenith cedar]

its been the playstyle of this spec for over a decade my boy

[waxen oyster]

welcome to rogue since forever

[coral ibex]

unless you mean ST in m+, you have basically infinite energy with ttk

[limber lion]

Ok this is thr build I would play probs

[waxen oyster]

unless you're outlaw

[limber lion]

Except nvm ew

[waxen oyster]

the adderall ridden little brother

[balmy condor]

it's real shit cev

[coral ibex]

like you have to be hard spamming envenoms will before pandemic

[faint path]

So are we still using

[coral ibex]

to run out of energy

[cinder bone]

im a little drunk rn so im signing up for keys as outlaw so i dont make assassins look bad

[rotund oak]

first time rogue friend? 🙂

[rain wraith]

https://www.twitch.tv/zerocoolx babayaga pumping

[balmy condor]

everyone is pumping dude

[faint path]

So are we still using same hybrid build?

[limber lion]

I couldn't fall asleep. Not a single minute was slept.

Gonna be a rough day

[rotund oak]

habibi is nice man,why ppl scolding him

[balmy condor]

you can actually faceroll your keyboard and do dps on this spec now

[south lava]

this is the one for m+ now?

[ancient compass]

Yee.

[balmy condor]

ye

[rain wraith]

you think we will get a hotfix nerf

[waxen oyster]

now?

[undone flame]

sorry but how com that Dead-Eye Spyglass is listed as our best overall trinket but its an a tier trinket?

[indigo mulch]

We'll be pumping for a week, then the nerf hammer comes and bring us into the middle of the pack

I believe.

[zenith cedar]

how good is Dragon tempered blades

[subtle tundra]

i slept like a baby man, slept in through alarm
killing queen brought me peace

[cinder bone]

Yeah I parsed 90s in heroic earlier not pooling at all

[karmic crystal]

“Nice man”

[faint path]

So nothing changed for m+ right?

[limber lion]

As you should

[dim yacht]

what makes supercharged worse than subterfuge?

[limber lion]

Pooling id history

[balmy condor]

MA is nutty

[subtle tundra]

pooling even when relevant was not game changing

[cinder bone]

nailing the teas in your opener and having one for next dm/kb all that matters

[ancient compass]

You got 2% crit brother.

[balmy condor]

MA going from 30->25% is crazy

[grim jay]

Mh?

[balmy condor]

when it should've been like

15%

[limber lion]

Love that for us

[grim jay]

Whispyr hating on ele confirmed?

[zenith cedar]

Whyspr didnt cook this up before the patch for good reasons

now we can ascend to new heights

[spring sigil]

If a ring comes with a prismatic socket already, can i add two additional sockets on it?

[zenith cedar]

bless

[subtle tundra]

only reason i like it is that theres different build now

[balmy condor]

no

[limber lion]

No

[undone flame]

@flat musk the f those sims have to do with it? im asking why best overall is listed as a tier

[robust axle]

An actual question thats probably been answered 100 times, but I just woke up. Are we trying to pandemic each seperate application of Envenom?

[dim yacht]

so whats best way to use MA now?

[spring sigil]

Then my vault oficially sucks xD

[dim yacht]

do we need to save vanish for kb?

[balmy condor]

you can only pandemic the lesser duration stack

[balmy condor]

you just vanish halfway into your deathmark

[subtle tundra]

it has pandemic? woah

[digital pollen]

the st deathstalker sim in fuus sheet is a wrong one - before people start asking (if that wasnt already the case)

[subtle tundra]

so its stronger than anticipated?

[wooden flare]

what the fuck is this? appears every time I stop moving

[dim yacht]

presumably because thats when KB is at max?

[lethal arrow]

wtf am i even looking at

[grim coral]

mechagnome bug i think

[balmy condor]

idk probably

[fresh kelp]

your weapon

[robust axle]

Ah so you just clip the other stack as late as possible?

[karmic crystal]

Your weapon

[grim jay]

The list is just a suggestion based on what initially was there, we dont care about bis lists the slightest

[vital flicker]

CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMmZmZGmBAAAAAAYWmHwsNDAAAAAAttMzMMzMYmZWmlxMDmZMzgZmZbbZMDw2MLjFGzYWaMbLDT2GGWA

[cinder bone]

wait so we using subterfuge now?

[balmy condor]

no, the lesser duration stack pandemics

[grim jay]

And the trinkets depend on gear

[vital flicker]

is this a cook?

[undone flame]

okay thanks i was just wondering ^^

[faint path]

No why

[subtle tundra]

yes cause MA

[limber lion]

MA good

Subt good

[cinder bone]

im confused

[flat musk]

wher's it even listed best overall

[limber lion]

Yay

[ancient compass]

Lol nah

[balmy condor]

this is just hybrid

[faint path]

in m+ or raid?

[balmy condor]

oh but you dropped bone spike

Y I K E S

[icy girder]

spike 2 good

[vital flicker]

sims higher for me

[icy girder]

never drop

[undone flame]

wowhead guide

[subtle tundra]

i WILL play non bonespike build with subterfuge

[balmy condor]

in dslice?

[little tulip]

my hero track sack brood could have been myth, sadge

[vital flicker]

maybe...

[grim jay]

#assassination message
Is basically the big thing in the room, personally dawnbreaker crystal simmed best for me both St and m+, because my gear fit it better

[limber lion]

Ya'll hate having fun

[subtle tundra]

only non-mandatory points in my opinion

[undone flame]

@balmy condor i think the ring drop souce broke xD npc 227323 xD

[quiet oar]

@grim jay

[flat musk]

that's only if you run M+ and don't get drops from somewhere else, edit: nvm

[balmy condor]

happens I guess

[balmy condor]

yeh that's pretty cool isn't it

[zenith cedar]

Does anyone remember the forbidden PVP Macro?

/castsequence reset=10 Cold Blood(PvP Talent),Shadow Blades,Cheap Shot,Shadow Dance,Symbols of Death,Echoing Reprimand,Eviscerate,Marked for Death,Eviscerate,Cheap Shot,Shadowstrike,Eviscerate

[limber lion]

Yes very assassination-like

[hexed badger]

does the shiv changes even work, or am I missing something?

[stark brook]

hello guyss. do you think dobule passive trinket worth ?(ara- crystal 539 ilvl)

[balmy condor]

we didn't get shiv changes

[limber lion]

works fine

ish

[balmy condor]

oh

supercharger

[limber lion]

ye

[balmy condor]

supercharger works yes

[grim jay]

Gz, how do you feel about not getting any loot in S2 onwards?
I personally am not really that interested in the back, sims strictly worse for me

[zenith cedar]

supercharge bad, superfuge good?

[grim jay]

Id take the neck tho, only have it on hero

[hexed badger]

but no buff or debuff show up for me sadly

[balmy condor]

correct

[quiet oar]

Im just skipping S2, the 639 ist the main reason why i wnated this cloak

saving crests

[safe shale]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[quiet oar]

prolly at 633 this week

maybe even 634

[waxen oyster]

im 631

[modest gale]

In m+ is it genrally better to have plenty of mastery?

[acoustic hamlet]

does afenar still update ?

[grim jay]

Im slowly sneaking forward at 630

[cinder bone]

yes

[stark brook]

hello guyss. do you think dobule passive trinket worth ?(ara- crystal 539 ilvl)

[balmy condor]

I think so but it's kinda cringe

[willow vine]

Crazy ass name

[grim jay]

If those are your best options

[grim jay]

Its generally better to do plenty simming

No matter if raid or m+

[faint path]

So where can we see new talents for m+ and raid

[stark brook]

cant sim max ilvl ara kara trinket 😦

[balmy condor]

I wonder

[acoustic hamlet]

i like the afenar looks, luxthos its kinda crowded idk

[dim yacht]

so for m+ now, do we take 2 subterfuge and 1 lethality, or 2 lethality and 1 subterfuge?

[faint path]

Huh hahahah

[grim jay]

Can you give a hint?

[fast mural]

atrocity and kush are so nice

[ancient compass]

I dont.

[zenith cedar]

we are figuring it out brother

[haughty timber]

!wa

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[frail geyser]

Thoughts on blackrock depths daggers on offhand?

[ancient compass]

All the gears trash imo.

[grizzled ember]

What is caustic spatter range?

[robust axle]

No

[pseudo cosmos]

rip no skardins spyage glass it is

[vital dew]

Does Iron wire interact with Improved garrote? I seem to be silencing things even though Im opening with ambush and THEN using garrote

[dapper halo]

oh man

[quiet oar]

sacbrood

[brisk forge]

Is there a new fatebound tree for M+?

[white sandal]

Spyglass good, we like 😄

[dapper halo]

its so hard to keep two envenom stacks up

[limber lion]

Yup

[willow vine]

12yd from your target I think

[vital dew]

sweet

[grim jay]

Its actually rather set, no figuring

[limber lion]

10yd

[zenith cedar]

oh yes, 100% set in stone

[waxen oyster]

in raid?

[keen rover]

Is it spyglass and skardyns now?

[waxen oyster]

fk no

[dapper halo]

should it be easy to keep up 2envenom stacks in st

[keen rover]

Most of the time yea

[hollow talon]

What do you guys do on first boss ara kara at 12+ for the spider adds that hatch

[limber lion]

I mean you don't really have to do anything extra

[stray adder]

after a night of M+, I can safely say that not having to press SnD is like getting out of jail after being on deathrow for 20 years

[limber lion]

It just kinda happens if it happens

[acoustic hamlet]

agree 120%

[tawdry gulch]

woops

my bad

[dapper halo]

i need new envenom tracker weakaura

[white sandal]

depends who i'm with, if with war pal i just do nothing

[dapper halo]

the current is not enough

[willow vine]

Execute sin goes crazy with the envenom

[dapper halo]

preferrably one that displays the overlappin envenom timers

[brave trench]

yo guys how are the brd weapons?

[keen rover]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

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[grim jay]

Its simming as always

[brave trench]

need to farm or na

[waxen oyster]

low ilvl

[ancient compass]

Nah

[grim jay]

Bad so far

[spring sigil]

Every item in my vault has vers. Boots, bracers and a ring

big fucking yikes

might actually take the token lol

[hollow talon]

Not sure if I should rupture spread and then caustic or just FoN/CT

[grim jay]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[last oasis]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[last oasis]

the first one on that list shows double envenom

[spring sigil]

I've simmed it all

even if i upgrade boots to a higher itlvl, it's a decrease

lmfao

Glad I wasted my week doing 8 +10s xD

[acoustic hamlet]

how does the new shiv work with reprimand ?

[limber lion]

Who's Whispyr?

[grim jay]

That somehow doesnt sound right

[limber lion]

I only know OPEN WOWHEAD

[grim jay]

Wowheadspyr?

[spring sigil]

626 myth boots vs my 623 ones

[subtle tundra]

try catalyze

[plucky forge]

But what about if you upgraded them to 639....

[acoustic hamlet]

do we still have to fish for the supercharged combo points?

[subtle tundra]

also if you take 626 you can freely upgrade to 626

[grim jay]

Yeah well you can catalyze AND you compare myth track vs heroic and not only 626

[dapper halo]

naw, whispyrs wa has way too much shit in it, i just want a simple envenom bar, nothing else,

[ancient compass]

Lost a brother to Subtlety.. he will be missed.

[last oasis]

then just...take the envenom tracker

[grim jay]

[hollow talon]

Is it better in m+ now or still meme spec

[limber lion]

LE has that

[dapper halo]

you have any idea how much tinkering that is, to disable everything But envenom tracking

[limber lion]

!wa

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[karmic crystal]

Delete everything else or make your own

[limber lion]

LE has a standalone

For Envenom

[last oasis]

what

you just search envenom

keep that and discard the rest

[limber lion]

https://wago.io/lcM4ssa54

Just use this

[dapper halo]

hmm

lets see

[grim jay]

Its 3 clicks

Actually

[dapper halo]

lets see if that cuts the mustard

[zenith cedar]

[limber lion]

mitä

[lunar valley]

Any has that ? Why I cannot learn 'echoing reprimend' ?

[ancient compass]

Cut the.. the WHAT

[limber lion]

It was removed from the game homeboy

Read the patchnotes

[last oasis]

because that's 2 point

[dapper halo]

mustard

[blazing pumice]

you can't mustard m8 it's a liquid

[lunar valley]

ohhh sh.... thanks !

[dapper halo]

i know the saying is: cuts the muster
but mustard is more funny

[limber lion]

Np

[real granite]

i like to cut ketchup more

[sterile iris]

so my supercharge gets consumed if i finish with 2cp but has no effect? effect only triggers if i finish with 5 or more? or am i stupid, why does my supercharge get consumed when i finish with 2

[stray adder]

that is misinformation bro

it's still there

[ancient compass]

I've heard of cut the cheese. But the mustard? Must try.

[stray adder]

he needs to max out supercharger

[subtle tundra]

why wouldnt it get consumed on 2

[tardy shard]

i guess we are using only 1 talent in supercharg?

[limber lion]

I HATE that the name was given to an entirely new and different ability

Makes no sense

It's still Echoing Reprimand in Shadowlands

If you get the covenant ability

[bitter saddle]

So we not using slice anymore? And echoing is gone as a ability too? We get 2 spare keybinds and now I gotta learn my rotation new :/ hope it’s worth it

[limber lion]

Should have just called that shit like Supercharge 123 or something

Superer Charge

[grim jay]

Why do you even finish on 2 in the first place

[nova wave]

is wax applied on both daggers or only on 1

[faint path]

Can anyone send m+ subterfuge build ?

[limber lion]

1

[last oasis]

snd is auto applied, and yes just use shiv off cd for new supercharger

[ancient compass]

Super Cuts

[grim jay]

I vote for supersoaker

[white sandal]

Shyv off cd ? what about keeping hsyv for kingsbane ?

[bitter saddle]

So we not saving shivs for kingsbane anymore?

Me confused

[sterile iris]

i was testing

[stray adder]

shiv on CD is bait

save for kb

[last oasis]

if youre running double shiv, use on kb

[subtle tundra]

i love misinformation! ! !

[stray adder]

before kb and at the end

[karmic crystal]

Shiv logic hasn’t changed

[last oasis]

if youre running m+, off cd

[hollow talon]

Is anyone experiencing bug in m+ where darkest night/deathmark is dropping in between packs for some reason

[last oasis]

how is that misinformation

[lone lava]

Rare neck with leech, sure why not

[grim jay]

Get used to it, people will keep going for a few days because they think they got something mindblowing

[visual vault]

bec its the longest i can last

[subtle tundra]

i also spread misinformation idk what you mean

[grim jay]

Yeah but its normal for you

[real granite]

for dn to proc the mob needs to die, exactly die, if the mob does another thing that is not dying, like going friendly at 30% life, you wont get dn

[subtle tundra]

well im the goat

so i can do what i want

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-tongue-gif-26615227

[last oasis]

youre saving a 30 sec cd (shiv) for a 1 min cd (kb) with single charge? weirdge

[sullen monolith]

so what talent are we playing now?

in m+

[loud gull]

Any bis from brd we should try to get ?

[grim jay]

Pins or guide

[dim yacht]

you also dont get it if your darkest night envenom gets the killing blow

[grim jay]

No

[grim jay]

Wrong

Fixed ages ago

[dim yacht]

its back again clearly

cause ive experienced it mulitple times

ive watched it happen

[loud gull]

Oke great

[bitter saddle]

5 head man so I can use 1 shiv between kingsbane and still have shiv for kingsbane. You thinking around corners I only think from the wall to the Tapete

[grim jay]

I will ping you 5000 times if I get home and it isnt the case

There is no reason why it should be back at all

[dim yacht]

idk what to tell you, ive literally watched it happen tonight

next time it happens ill clip it

[grim jay]

Thats a good way

[real granite]

its easy to test it anyway

[subtle tundra]

i believe you

game is fucked

[languid lion]

Good morning, what talents do we play now for m+ guys?

[normal mist]

Good morning Fotm rerollers and whoever else is here today

[subtle tundra]

WHOEVER ELSE?

THATS WHAT I AM TO YOU

[grim jay]

Pins or guide

[normal mist]

No I love you varas

[subtle tundra]

many kisses

[grim jay]

But I clearly am whoever for you

[normal mist]

We're both out of queen prison, although mine was a guild HC kill yesterday

[runic hinge]

I am fotm

[chilly mist]

any items from anniversary we should be looking out for?

[subtle tundra]

🤯 fuck yea brother

[grim jay]

All the transmog you want

[normal mist]

No, I love you too

[grizzled ember]

People are FOTMing ass?

[dapper halo]

automatic snd feels like such a luxury

[bitter saddle]

Did we get stronger with the changes?

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/sending-love-gif-612394251134540343

[hollow talon]

Ya I think it's bugged that's why I was asking it

[normal mist]

We had to kick half of the raid out. 20 people too much. 10 was ideal

[stray adder]

I almost nutted when I pressed feint for the first time tonight

[subtle tundra]

yea we also had to kick someone but only after the kill, it was another Evolve classic

[grim jay]

Pins

[real granite]

confirmed, bug is back

tried 2 times

[normal mist]

The first time we reach p3 we kill the boss LOL

[real granite]

wops, i didnt wanted to ping him

[grim jay]

Dirty

[pliant falcon]

Soooo the new talents are bugged?

[opaque sigil]

Got myth skardyns, time to call off work and go pump some keys YEEEHAW

[dapper halo]

hmmm... LEs envenom aura is too derp, the two bars thing is silly

[grim jay]

@balmy condor do we need a pin for the DN bug being back if its true?

[frail geyser]

But surely bleed dagger will have some value

[grim jay]

No

Its shit

[balmy condor]

there's no other way to visualize it

[waxen oyster]

its a 30s dot

[blazing pumice]

yer but we are a bleeding class

[waxen oyster]

also what even is the proc chance

[blazing pumice]

it makes sense thematically

[dapper halo]

i would like two overlapping bars really

[waxen oyster]

for a mediocre dot

doesnt it cap out

at 619 too

low ilvl

[blazing pumice]

it's hero track

[frail geyser]

Think 626

[waxen oyster]

still low

for a mid effect

[opaque sigil]

Just change the color of the bar to another color (green -> purple f.e.) when you have 2 envenoms rolling?

[grim jay]

Sounds really weird

[kind forge]

so you just take sanguine into MA and rock subter ?

*in hybrid

[vital dew]

Does indiscriminant carnage apply to different targets every time or is it random

[real granite]

it prioritice no doted mobs, if all dotted, is random

[opaque sigil]

I’d take it over 2 bars any time tbf, I mean there really is no need to even track it that deep

[vital dew]

sweet

[forest mountain]

is it safe to update addons yet

[last oasis]

the point of having two is because their timers are independent of each other, having a single bar track one and only color change for the other isn't useful enough info

[grim jay]

But its nice little Information that doesnt take up any space or anything at all

You dont lose anything

[stray adder]

that bar gonna flicker

good way to get a seizure

[desert otter]

Any info about how the opener for assassination looks in 11.0.5?

[balmy condor]

how would that help

[fringe perch]

ye @dark open from stealth, hope this helps.