assassination

[novel star]

i dont see lua error popups so i wouldnt have known

[coral ibex]

yea they're lisonna's

hehe

[balmy condor]

[iron prism]

Do we have a locked down mythic spec yet?

[winged basin]

neither are they, thats the problem no self sufficiency in here, everyone is dependant on instant answers, when they could click 2 buttons and find everything they want and more >:)

[novel star]

LE fix yo shit

[slate crown]

Idn what you're talking about

It is!

[coral ibex]

the errors i got earlier

[slate crown]

Get the newer versions

[coral ibex]

are coming from whispyr's too

[lone lava]

Does anyone have a good Envenom stack Weak aura? Am not able to track the actual timer on the overlap part

[novel star]

whispyr stole your weakauras for the bars on the afenar edit

ya?

[past panther]

my stats raid buffed

[fallow sonnet]

58%???

wtf

[past panther]

bjeep bjeep

[devout rock]

we apply slice n dice during opener?

[coral ibex]

i have 53% mastery sitting in town

[past panther]

every single piece of my gear has mastery lol

[limber lion]

In EU for like for 4 more hours yeah

[visual vault]

it automatically applies upon first envenom

so yes

[spice spire]

Tell those frauds!

[topaz crystal]

luxthos update up btw

[pure falcon]

so the super charged point is not applying darkest night?

[coral ibex]

correct

[lone lava]

Do you have a WA for the Envenom overlap that tracks correctly? @balmy condor

[balmy condor]

yes

[potent inlet]

does anyone know how to fix this sim error, just started happening: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/avvpQx2XyTy1UMDEgjBNCG

Player Selji has invalid talent tree hash CMQAA0tw2gAD7pPTLoW5IGZDeMzMzMMmhHYAAAAAAYWGsMDAAAAAAttNzMMzMYmZWmtZmZMwYmZmxMb2GzAsZWGYALBLDTghFA: partial rank for node 90639 but all 1 ranks are allocated.

[pure falcon]

is that a bug?

[deep fjord]

hi folks, are stat priorities changed now?

[sour mist]

anyone feel like there dmg is shittier

[cerulean walrus]

@balmy condor I LOVE YOU BB

[fallen moss]

tempered mastery or chaos for raid? or pretty even?

[cerulean walrus]

GIMME A BIG OL KISS

[normal mist]

no

ilvl

sim

[coral ibex]

idk probably

[deep fjord]

we still stack mastery for aoe?

[coral ibex]

ER had the same "bug" that got fixed

[balmy condor]

are you EU

[lone lava]

Care to share? I want to see how its set up @balmy condor

[normal mist]

AoE aka m+?

[deep fjord]

yes

[coral ibex]

bro just

!wa

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[potent inlet]

no, NA

[marble hemlock]

fuck you

[normal mist]

crit mastery is fine yeah

[marble hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/the-bachelor-so-happy-for-you-fake-not-happy-victoria-gif-16044729

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[devout rock]

oh shit really

didnt knew that

[potent inlet]

it was working fine just a bit ago, then the sim started breaking with the same talent setup that was working fine earlier. idk

[sour oasis]

!wa

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[balmy condor]

oh seems like maybe raidbots issues

[half moat]

when a trinket says "highest secondary" does it refer to the RAW #, or the % #.

[severe sparrow]

does thistle tea not /cast in macros? it is /use?

[opal chasm]

FRIENDS, quick TLDR, are we just spamming envenom now?

because of twist the knife?

[golden quarry]

do we really take crimson tempest on silken court?

[strange python]

i see no talent where it says that slice gets applied by first envenom where is that coming from

[tall pelican]

Whats the new m+ build for latest patch?

[undone pollen]

@balmy condor on single target are we not FoK for clear the witness after deathstalker mark?

[potent inlet]

k, guess i'll just try again later to see if it works

[novel star]

we are

[balmy condor]

sim it on nightly not latest

[drowsy hatch]

It's from the passive that extended slice n dice

[balmy condor]

latest broke

[thin portal]

Hey guys I'm going to switch and try sin. I'm an Outlaw addict for long time now. Just tired of the nerfs and bugs of that role.

Are there any bugs with sin? I think the lack of talk about them here makes me assume there are none.

[novel star]

the fan for ctw thing is very simple and is written in the guide multiple times

you press it ST if you dont have vicious venoms

the current build doesnt have vicious venoms

so you press it st

[undone pollen]

Ok thanks

[novel star]

np

[balmy condor]

SIMULATION INFO

On raidbots atm simming on "latest" is using an old simc version and will break. Use Nightly until further notice

[daring hamlet]

why are these talent loadouts showing as using an extra point than is possible?

[balmy condor]

old imports

[novel star]

was already using nightly

[daring hamlet]

is there a way to know which point isn't actually being used?

[errant mauve]

for the supercharger after i shiv my very first CP looks charged... but my "supercharged" envenom did 200k

[drowsy hatch]

look at the new wowhead article

[novel star]

supercharger is not echoing reprimand

[balmy condor]

no clue

[novel star]

it does not have a minigame

you do not finish on a charged cp

[drowsy hatch]

It doesn't work like echoing

[novel star]

you just enhance your next finisher

[grave nova]

!fuu

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[coral ibex]

supercharger adds 2cp to your finisher

[novel star]

so a 5cp one deals damage like it was 7cp

[oak eagle]

can anyone help with this? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bYyB8CFgkeARm1nf3ToS6o

[slim pebble]

Holy hell the lag rn

[coral ibex]

so if you finished on 1cp you did a 3cp envenom

[balmy condor]

pins

[oak eagle]

oh ty

[novel star]

i knew the supercharger wording would be a disaster

[errant mauve]

yea i had 5CPs so it should have been 7 right

[novel star]

why the fuck did they write it that way oh my god

[novel star]

ye

[wooden lily]

is there an updated generic m+ talent page anywhere, sry if this has been asked a million times

[novel star]

m+ talents are unchanged as of now

[coral ibex]

[novel star]

might not be true with further sim cooking

[coral ibex]

wowhead m+ talents are 2/2 lethality

[novel star]

but atm you dont take ttk

[coral ibex]

and only 1/2 supercharger

[gloomy steppe]

Is FB > DS pure ST only?

[novel star]

yeah i mean spec tree

[novel star]

yes

[coral ibex]

ooo gotcha

[gloomy steppe]

okay thank god

[novel star]

singular focus goes hard

[gloomy steppe]

I wonder if its worth running on Rash since the add damage gets removed anyway

[winged basin]

I take back everything I said about transmitter, this trink is goated, skardyns who?

[novel star]

if whats worth running on rash

fb?

[gloomy steppe]

FB

yee

[novel star]

prolly

adds are relatively fake on that boss

[lost wharf]

I just realised that the new Council/Ovi build changes from Blindside to Tiny Toxic Blade. Why is that?

[gloomy steppe]

tru, we have a couple unethical padders so they don't need me anyway

[ashen scroll]

this is probably a really dumb question but what does the tick mark have to do with my current combo points. isnt the pandemic set already?

[true rapids]

none of the brd stuff is an upgrade from max rank hero stuff from dungeons

[gloomy steppe]

for FB where you drop supercharged you just CB the first envenom after DM?

[fossil shell]

Is Ovi'nax good?

[novel star]

pandemic is based on cp

well

[balmy condor]

deathstalker fok on 2

[novel star]

its based on the duration of the next applied buff/debuff

[novel star]

so higher cp = longer buff/debuff = larger 30%

!pd

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[fossil shell]

any of these trinkets good?

[ashen scroll]

so the tick mark is for the next envenom i will cast, not the ones i have already casted

[viscid spear]

So embarrassing confession time

[lost wharf]

But wasn't that true before the patch already?

[novel star]

the tick mark is just where pandemic duration starts

so yes

[drowsy hatch]

crystal and mercurial are good but dont know what youre comparing to

[novel star]

if you build more cp the tick will move because 30% of your next envenom is a larger amount of seconds

[viscid spear]

I've been doing 7 CP Envenoms every time not realizing I only need to do that for Darkest Night procs.

[novel star]

this is unfortunately a common mistake

but it is very bad

at least now you are aware of it

[pure star]

yo we are PUMPING in ST

[novel star]

Yeah

6% buff pretty nice

[pure star]

feels good man

[gloomy steppe]

is optimal CB usage in the FB build to use it on first envenom after DM?

[lone lava]

Is the blue bar indicating where you want to drop a envenom to not waste uptime? @balmy condor

[novel star]

yes

[winged basin]

cant wait to get to sikran, but I am absolutely slamming bloodbound

[gloomy steppe]

joy

[viscid spear]

tbf I was playing Mage until like a month ago

[novel star]

well

[balmy condor]

yes

[novel star]

you press it on cd between dms

but when it comes off cd before a dm

[gloomy steppe]

yee

[novel star]

you hold for after

[lone lava]

Nice, i like it

[gloomy steppe]

but hold for after DM if its up

[novel star]

and then press 2? on cd again

[gloomy steppe]

gotcha

[novel star]

basically

macro it to envenom

but have an unmacrod envenom on ur bars

for dm setup cast

[blissful cosmos]

how come echo reprimimand aint played anymore

[fossil shell]

Ovi'nax in blood mallet ranks high in cleave and ST

[novel star]

because its not good

[gloomy steppe]

mfw sin turns into sub and I am having to swap hero talents every other boss

[oak eagle]

so I got a mandate last night, should i be using that after my burst window?

[novel star]

and lethality does more damage

ya

[oak ember]

any specific way to play twist the knife or do you just envenom when you don't have 2 stacks

[drowsy hatch]

blast envenom

[shut owl]

nyoom hard

[drowsy hatch]

blast big

[novel star]

for other classes it would be best to mandate on pull but i dont think we like that because of energy overcapping stuff

maybe im delusional

but yeh

you dont do it during cds at least

[drowsy hatch]

I would say if you wanna track ovinax then do it, the other is passive

[lyric tangle]

Where do you guys get talents for m+ from? After update

[novel star]

wowhead.com

[drowsy hatch]

Everything is from wowhead

[lyric tangle]

Is it updated?

[novel star]

yes

[onyx nymph]

also wouldnt doing it on pull fuck our stealth opener

[lyric tangle]

Nice ty!

[novel star]

mm

[drowsy hatch]

there aren't really m+ changes rn

[novel star]

in st not really

[faint vessel]

If you mandate on pull your on use trinket is going on 20s CD, right?

[slim pebble]

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[novel star]

if anything it MIGHT be optimal to ambush gar rup mandate

cause master assassin???

but like

that is so cringe

[faint vessel]

You’d lose your on use during DM tho

[novel star]

this assumes double on use

if you dont have skardyns/transmitter youd just run mandate+passive

[faint vessel]

Oh sure. Send mandate super early then

[onyx nymph]

also not sure if im crazy or not but is the supercharged combo point just not showing for anyone else or just me cause im using naowhui

[faint vessel]

Get it on CD asap

[young flicker]

for ST with twist the knife...are we pretty much trying to envenom every 4 sec now to keep up the double stack envenom buff?

[drowsy hatch]

It shows on default UI. Different UIs seem to not be working consistently

[fossil shell]

To your main question, my options are Spyglass. Ara-Kara(champion), void reaper, transmitter, and Sikran's

[onyx nymph]

thats what i thought ty

[dire sphinx]

feels like we got nerfed =/ i don't like the supercharge change

[novel star]

you still wait for pandemic on the smaller of your 2 envenoms

[cloud yew]

but we didnt doe

[faint vessel]

Nope

[novel star]

we did not

[drowsy hatch]

but also tracking the supercharge is not a big deal

[novel star]

playstyle nerf maybe, but that is subjective

numerical nerf no

[oblique plover]

Big Nerferino

Im protesting

[slow echo]

Is there a supercharger WA already?

[novel star]

why would you need a weakaura for a passive

[young flicker]

so you pretty much don't worry about the 2nd stack at all and just make sure the buff overall doesnt fall off?

[novel star]

No

[undone pollen]

are we still envenoming with 1 second left with new twist the knife changes?

[drowsy hatch]

hmm I don't really feel like you need something else. Those are some good ones if those are all hero minus ara kara

[novel star]

i said the smaller of 2 stacks

meaning

the first one you cast

[slow echo]

It's not off certain combo paints like echoing reprimand?

[dire sphinx]

for m+ it feels like we just lost echo, since we can't spec into twist and hold utility

[novel star]

first envenom 1 stack -> second envenom 2 stacks -> 3rd envenom is when the first envenom is in pandemic

[drowsy hatch]

No. You ignore it

[frank hollow]

how many CP should i use for my envenom off DN procs?

[strange cargo]

general rule we just take the higher dmg sim item yea?

[onyx linden]

!wa

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[novel star]

5+

[young flicker]

yeah so like ever 4 sec like I said?

4-5

[frank hollow]

tyty

[novel star]

no, that is not every 4 seconds

that is when the buff is in pandemic

[fossil shell]

Yeah they're all heroic. Which would be optimal for ST and which should I be using for keys?

[novel star]

which changes based on crit rng

[fringe socket]

I like Assassin, I apply bleeds and poisons 🙂

[normal mist]

Same

[onyx coyote]

is there an aura that tracks when to use fok isntead of mut?

[novel star]

whispyrs edit does it

!wa

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[drowsy hatch]

I couldn't really say that without simming it all. I would do spyglass and transmitter personally

But that's just my preference from experience

[novel star]

LE also has a standalone ctw aura

in the collection

[lucid silo]

!wa

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[onyx coyote]

ty

[fossil shell]

Is dungeon slice reliable now in raidbots? I know there used to be issues with simming like that. I will sim them all. Thanks

[normal mist]

Dungeonslice has been the go to sim to m+ for a LONG time

[drowsy hatch]

Yeah that

[fossil shell]

Okay, I know for a while there was like patchwork plus 2 adds for hectic add cleave being more accurate, but i am behind the times obviously

[soft niche]

if i dont talent improved garrot, how do i use vanish ?

[balmy condor]

you don't

[novel star]

ok wait why do these not fit in their shit

i was memeing about the envenom bars earlier

[drowsy hatch]

if you have an aneuryism and dont ambush out of stealth then you can save it

[novel star]

but wtf goin on there

[balmy condor]

[novel star]

i will investigate.

[balmy condor]

look fine to me

[novel star]

yeah idk mine is like

really really fried

[cerulean walrus]

These two bars fuckin me up Whispyr I'm dumb

[undone shale]

how

[novel star]

ill delete instead of just updating

[haughty flicker]

looks fine indeed

[balmy condor]

I just pushed another update

[novel star]

thats prolly it

[balmy condor]

just delete

and reimport

[novel star]

yeah

[old halo]

this any good?

[undone shale]

is you guys DM bugged

AGAIN?

[novel star]

nope

[balmy condor]

meh

[novel star]

works fine

[undone shale]

it keeps randomly dropping in keys

[nimble ether]

Haven’t played today are we loving the changes

[undone shale]

when i try to reapply it

is lose darkest night

and dont get the mark on the mob

[old halo]

some dood trying to sell for 300K lmao

[graceful halo]

you lose it if the envenom kills the mob

old bug is back

[white marten]

!fuu

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[indigo meadow]

Any reasons why we wouldn’t take 2
Points in supercharged?

[ashen scroll]

is there any reason why envenom debuff wouldnt apply if i have 2 envenom debuffs going, and 1 of them is in pandemic. its happened a few times on dummies. cant figure out why. i didnt parry. the third envenom just doesnt apply any debuff

[novel star]

freshly imported

[undone shale]

ty that is very helpful

[novel star]

why does mine look

like

fried

as fuck

[onyx musk]

yeah 2x lethaility sims higher

[novel star]

ui scale probably

but it was not like this before

[hot marten]

missing spatter?

[undone shale]

anyone have a day 1 cook build

for keys?

[normal mist]

Pins

[surreal crag]

!wa

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[undone shale]

also is the pin acurate?

[normal mist]

No

[undone shale]

supercharge is NOT working with darkest night for me

[normal mist]

They are not accurate

[novel star]

0.98 scale makes it look mostly normal

vanish tea are still holding hands for some reason

[vale shore]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[novel star]

but dm isnt completely out of the box anymore

whatever

[nimble ether]

That’s crazy is that for everyone or wha

[novel star]

i hate weakauras

[gloomy steppe]

Do the sims take into account that DS still has Flensing or no?

[drowsy hatch]

no, supercharge doesn't work with dn period

[novel star]

Yeah, it just doesnt interact

[gloomy steppe]

I'm trying to figure out if FB is actually better than DS or if DS + Flensing is actually stronger on ST

[nimble ether]

That’s fucked

[novel star]

i mean its whatever

[undone shale]

how did they re-introduce all the week 1 bugs

[novel star]

just hit another fan to go to 7cp

[normal mist]

#assassination message

[undone shale]

this game is so SHIT

[nimble ether]

Man I miss er already

[novel star]

am i crazy for not caring at all

about supercharger dn interaction

[drowsy hatch]

no it doesnt matter

it would matter if we ran vv

[novel star]

it was miserable with ER but now its just ptsd raging for no reason at all

its not relevant

[nimble ether]

It feels shidt

[drowsy hatch]

but now we have too much energy

so building is easy

[normal mist]

There is never too much

[hollow pier]

what is the blue bar that keeps popping up on whysper's edit?

[normal mist]

I press my abilities really fast

Brrrrrrr

[indigo meadow]

ok sounds good thanks, i see on the raid cleave build that whispyr has for the new beta sims we have hes dropping arterial percision? is this a bad talent now? trying to figure out what i need to run for mythic brood prog again tn

[errant mauve]

anyone else super bugged? like it gave me a class talent point back because of the supercharger change but wont let me apply it

[keen spruce]

oh i'm not crazy i was wondering why mine looked weirdge

[novel star]

yeah idk

i think its because i use ui scale

weakauras just look like shit sometimes

[drowsy hatch]

I just remade my trees

[abstract parrot]

so whats the single target talents now??

[drowsy hatch]

wowhead

[coral ibex]

100% it is ui scale

[torpid lion]

man i dont know if ass rogue feels weaker or if everyone else feels stronger

[novel star]

!guide

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[novel star]

placebo

sin is 6% stronger

than it was a day ago

[coral ibex]

sometimes wa text doesn't get affect, sometimes it does

[balmy condor]

idk if you've opened logs

but uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[fossil shell]

Are the talent trees updated on wowhead?

[balmy condor]

assa is kinda REALLY good

[drowsy hatch]

yes

[coral ibex]

but is it BOOM or DOOM???

explain me!

[normal mist]

Bdoom

[drowsy hatch]

Which button is the monkey pressing

[keen spruce]

@novel star what's it supposed to look like

mine is just a grey square

[drifting cloud]

theorycrafters sandbagging sims yet again smh

[novel star]

2 different bars is normal

[normal mist]

Every time

[keen spruce]

[novel star]

yeah there should be a gap

[cerulean walrus]

That shit UGLY

[novel star]

i was complaining about the other icons

not fitting in their boxes

[balmy condor]

oh

[novel star]

my envenom bars look fine

[keen spruce]

but I didn't update display so I could keep my frogs

[dreamy canyon]

!wa

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[keen spruce]

so it might be user error

[hollow pier]

wtf is this blue bar i didnt see this before

[narrow prawn]

Hi guys, I would like to know if I am using the correct talents for m+

[cerulean walrus]

Mine looks fiine

[novel star]

HHAHAHA

[balmy condor]

AHAHAHA

[novel star]

WHAT THE FUCK

[balmy condor]

okay

[novel star]

BIG ASS PANDEMIC

[balmy condor]

one more update

[novel star]

HAHDSGKHJGDHJKG

[drowsy hatch]

super pandemic

[cerulean walrus]

LMAO

[old halo]

so much haste, why my gear pulling me this way lmao

[strange python]

what are these three green dots

[jade wadi]

was there a change coming where we don't have to press slice n dice anymore? for some reason I feel like I saw that somewhere. but wasn't for sure.

[torpid lion]

well i said that cauase the BM hunter just beat me for the first time

[hollow pier]

what do u mean

[torpid lion]

and im like what the fuck

[novel star]

Yes, cut to the chase rework

[dire sphinx]

Ironwire is nice for the aoe silence

[coral ibex]

its a bug

[haughty flicker]

bm hunter is missing nerfs

[drowsy hatch]

its just a bar thats supposed to indicate pandemic timing, its just bugged lol

[haughty flicker]

its just insanely overtuned atm

[novel star]

cut to the chase now applies snd on envenom instead of just extending it

[haughty flicker]

dont compare to them

[jade wadi]

is that live now?

[hollow pier]

ohhh i see

[gloomy steppe]

missing nerfs
getting buffed 20%

[novel star]

yep

[cerulean walrus]

Uh oh

[jade wadi]

ahhh. tyvm

[hollow pier]

i was like freaking out LOL

[abstract parrot]

its not updated yet

wtf

[novel star]

whats not

[haughty flicker]

they got compensation nerfs that are not applied in game currently

they got buffed, but will not be by this much once everything is in

[normal mist]

This chat is as fast as outlaw chat. I can't keep up. I'll go sleep.

[balmy condor]

hold, hold

[open canyon]

wtf is that evenom dmg

[hollow pier]

i got raid in 20

[open canyon]

that crit

[cerulean walrus]

Whispyr I'm gonna be honest

This thing is not it

[soft niche]

!wa

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[indigo meadow]

@balmy condor what talents can i drop from this to pickup ct for m brood

[cunning needle]

dw they just got nerfed

[novel star]

its on wowhead

[hollow pier]

poor whispyr today fr fr

[novel star]

but imp gar + MA

[deep gyro]

gp to wowhead

[coral ibex]

bro just copy from wowhead

[winged basin]

how are yours so high D: the highest I have got so far is 5 mil

[onyx nymph]

poor whispyr always xD

[novel star]

why are people pinging whispyr for questions that are already answered in the wowhead guide thats fucking written by whispyr

[balmy condor]

it totally is it

[indigo meadow]

geez i didnt think it would be up already

[hollow pier]

especially today tho lol

[novel star]

what

[onyx nymph]

its just patch day so its worse

[balmy condor]

we're so back

[novel star]

i dont understand

[keen spruce]

updated?

[dense glen]

am I missing something? mad queen mandate sims poorly vs. mercurial egg (same ilvl)? (have sacbrood as other trinket)

[cerulean walrus]

But Whispie

It looks

[warm ibex]

now that were running MA in our ST builds, is there any nuance around vanishing during KB windows? or just send it

[cerulean walrus]

So ass

[balmy condor]

WE ARE NOT BACK

[onyx nymph]

xD

[drowsy hatch]

It's over.

[novel star]

bro how did u manage this

[placid adder]

lmaoo

[keen spruce]

[hollow pier]

honestly thats better than this massive fucking thing across my screen lol

[cerulean walrus]

Bro just wait for fucking Lisonna

To do it

[normal mist]

P I n s

[novel star]

Im crying

[keen spruce]

bruh I only get one bar

[cerulean walrus]

And steal again

[novel star]

HHAHAHAH

[keen spruce]

[balmy condor]

THIS IS LISONNA

[cerulean walrus]

OH NO

[winged basin]

is tracking TtK that important or just a nice to know thing lmfao

[coral ibex]

you dont have TTK

[novel star]

do you have no ttk maybe?

[cerulean walrus]

OH NOOOO

[short flicker]

!enchants

[raven egret]

aight so, do I try to fit TTK in tonights' raidà

[deep gyro]

do u have ttk talented?

[faint vessel]

Can I just….send envenoms constantly and not worry about 3x envenom overlap?

[keen spruce]

oh

[iron valve]

you still vanish for imp garrote with deathmark, MA follows automatically

[keen spruce]

yeah i'm in m+ talents

[balmy condor]

literally the only thing I did was rotate it and fit it into afenar

she has 2 bars

but it's the same wa

[keen spruce]

what's the blue bar supposed to be

[cerulean walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/get-rotated-get-rotated-idiot-rotate-rotation-shark-gif-24511062

[balmy condor]

pandemic

[novel star]

pandemic

[runic hinge]

Thanks John blizzard for making assa good

[hollow pier]

hit envenom when green goes below blue

i believe atleast

[novel star]

yep

[keen spruce]

oh mine is workin fine then

[dire sphinx]

Is master assasin really worth taking over sanguine blade in this latest build? We're going to have the extra energy to keep it running

[heavy jolt]

this auto tea is cringe

[novel star]

it doesnt really matter

[vocal cradle]

how is fatebound in keys?

[novel star]

in numbers

[hearty reef]

• 6% to an already top end spec?

[novel star]

but sure

[coral ibex]

just stop going under 30 energy

[novel star]

meh, bad prio bad defensives

[coral ibex]

you are spamming like a monkey

ook ook hit button

[runic hinge]

Might start blocking anyone who talks about tea in here

[novel star]

overall damage is fine but losing bait sucks and losing singuar focus really sucks

[runic hinge]

Can get the Brit’s too

[keen spruce]

wait nvm blue bar just disappears randomly

then pops in

[scenic nacelle]

literally how you play rapid injection :p

[novel star]

its only there when you have cp

[keen spruce]

o i c

ok then it's working

[novel star]

and adjusts position based on how many you have

[deep gyro]

!wa

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[keen spruce]

lbozo UI scaled goobers

[indigo elk]

we gotta reimport whysperrs WA im guessing?

[amber brook]

Feint has 0gcd now right?

[novel star]

yes

[amber brook]

❤️

[balmy condor]

I'm rushing

[keen spruce]

i was worried about the wording of the feint gcd change

but it looks like it works on both sides

[slate crown]

I'm rushing

[keen spruce]

just removed from gcd

[indigo elk]

tyt champ

[cerulean walrus]

Actual unplayable game

WTF

[undone shale]

anyone out of energy the whole key?

[cerulean walrus]

Forget Whispyr's WA

This shit

[slate crown]

I updated the main pack with the changes I have thusfar but still have more to do

[haughty flicker]

game literally falling apart at the seams

its all over

[soft niche]

!wa

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[balmy condor]

FUCK IT WE BALL

[novel star]

no wtf

[onyx coyote]

I could not find the answer in the guide but do we only use the fok instead of mut for clear the witnesses during opener or every time we deathstalker mark?

[novel star]

send that shit

[dapper cradle]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[novel star]

its almost raid time

i need updates

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[ebon quest]

!wa

[undone shale]

my fkn THISTLE TEA PERMA ON CD

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[hollow pier]

[novel star]

if you run out of energy in aoe because you dont have thistle tea

uh

you have

[undone shale]

not aoe

[novel star]

some issues

[coral ibex]

you have serious problems with scent stacks

[deep gyro]

every deathmark application be it ambush or dn

[novel star]

and running out of energy in ST is.. normal?

[young flicker]

Whats the blue bar that is popping up on the updated Whispyr WA?

[balmy condor]

3.1.2-15

[balmy condor]

update again

[deep gyro]

late to the party

[novel star]

i cant believe that shit is legit as wide as the whole pack

hahakhdghkdajgkhj

how the fuck

W

[strange python]

is there a master assassin/ vanish timer on Whispyr's UI?

[runic hinge]

Did you apply poisons

[young flicker]

!wa

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[balmy condor]

lisonna does groupings hard coded and it inherited the width of the bar when it was horizontal instead of vertical

[slate crown]

lmao how could it get like that what person made that WA who would do such a thing wouldn't wanna be that person

[young flicker]

Yeah, as soon as I posted that I saw another post about it xD

[arctic venture]

Why I catn se Echo?

[vocal cradle]

yall gonna take a swing at fatebound in raid or nah?

[arctic venture]

dry

set echo?

[novel star]

LE youre the goat its okay its just funny as fuck

lmao

[arctic venture]

there is something wrong?

[balmy condor]

okay raid time

[novel star]

same hope ur shit works goat!

[balmy condor]

[novel star]

HAHAHHAAH

[strange python]

is there a master assassin/ vanish timer on Whispyr's UI?

[vocal cradle]

you streaming raid @balmy condor ?

[cerulean walrus]

Can't wait to see Whispyr have a bar across his entire screen going over to his second monitor

[cobalt swift]

Is dracthyr going to be a decent dps gain for us with mastery racial?

[balmy condor]

yes

[cerulean walrus]

During stream

[balmy condor]

yes

[heavy jolt]

do we play around master assassin?

[balmy condor]

no

[balmy condor]

no

[cobalt swift]

ty

[vocal cradle]

the tube or twitch?

[hollow pier]

NEW IMPORT WORKING WE ARE SO UP

[strange python]

how do i know when to vanish for master assassin damage during cds

i can see the MA timer

but i dont see a glow or something to say when peak vanish moment is

or is it just pandemic garrote

no change

[coral ibex]

vanish when 7s left on kb/dm

[novel star]

its just pandemic garrote

[coral ibex]

for MA to cover the end of kb/dm

[novel star]

which naturally lines up with the last 6s of kb anyway

[strange python]

heard

[novel star]

if you press everything on cd

[west crown]

ttk actually feels insane for energy regen

[coral ibex]

it is, you have so much energy in ST with ttk

[novel star]

It is disgustingly broken yes

ttk+dashing is vile

[arctic venture]

Guys Why I cant set Echo in my tree? there is something wrong?

[novel star]

energy income

[finite yarrow]

new update to wa has blue bar going across the whole pack

[slate crown]

update again

[coral ibex]

update

[finite yarrow]

ah

[west crown]

im "spamming" and just sending envenom at half of the buff duration and not running out

[gray flower]

does supercharger just not work or what

[novel star]

it does

it doesnt interact with dn

but it does work

[quartz relic]

what is ttk?

[west crown]

twist the knife

[hearty reef]

Wait wait wait

[harsh ingot]

anyone got a WA that calls me a stupid idiot if i drop below 30 energy?

[hearty reef]

Ttk is interacting with dashing completely? Tripling energy gain?

[west crown]

dropping below 30 really isnt a big deal

[hearty reef]

I thought it was just the crit%

[gray flower]

why is there no aura for Supercharger?

how am i supposed to track this on my frames lol

[hollow pier]

@balmy condor dont mean to spam but the envenom part of WA occasionally isnt showing 2 green bars on double stacks

[plucky fable]

hi!, talents for raid still the same ? 😮

[deep gyro]

Wowhead

[dim bough]

If I get knocked out of stealth on during a pull and vanish is on CD, what's the best way to apply deathstalker's mark?

[west crown]

cry and pray

[ebon quest]

die. and try again

[slate crown]

Make sure you've updated

[deep gyro]

Best answer

[hollow pier]

i have the aaaaaaaaaaa update

[harsh ingot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZwvrxVavnQ gonna send this to the devs

[plucky fable]

tyy:)

[undone pollen]

is it worth it to use crimson tempest on mythic ulgrax?

[thick sable]

No

[austere flame]

whats the m+ build boys

[deep gyro]

Wowhead

[red wolf]

!wa

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[slate crown]

my head

[chilly marsh]

any interresting loot from the event? i cna be wrong but kazak had a good neeck in DF no?

[balmy condor]

he's right btw

sometimes it just doesn't add

might be dorn lag

[desert cove]

!stealth

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
• While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[wispy epoch]

stealth benefits are huge tbh

[hardy rapids]

Could I please get an explanation for "With the speed of assa going WAY the hell up in 11.0.5"

In what way have the changes made the spec any faster than It was previously?

[west crown]

this feels outdated now with changes

[coral ibex]

you get a lot more energy

[wispy epoch]

and i hate pretending they're not

[hollow pier]

i was testing on dorn target dummies so maybe

[coral ibex]

and you have to spend it

[hardy rapids]

From twist the knife?

[balmy condor]

it is not

[median igloo]

defo dorn lag, raid is fine now

[wispy epoch]

can we have a link to updated m+ and raid builds?

or not a big change?

[lyric oyster]

wowhead

[midnight mist]

whisper man, can you pin a little thing in outlaw channeluwu

[balmy condor]

W O W
H E A D

[balmy condor]

what

[fair stag]

I feel bad for you bro... hang in there xD

[deep gyro]

Just go offline. You’ve done enough hero.

[torpid prairie]

do you guys use crimson tempest on the council fight?

[gritty laurel]

careful folks, he's a hero

[slate crown]

It's going to have to sit for a bit, I'll get to it when I can

[pliant terrace]

so fatebound basically doesn't change the gameplay of sin at all?

you just use cb on cooldown?

[lyric oyster]

nope, just rng heavy

[hollow pier]

all good appreciate the updates, just wanted to let yall know

[pliant terrace]

damn

[quaint spindle]

when vanish now

since we taking master assassin again

[strange python]

bros how much aura nerf u getting, any guesses?

[slow hatch]

is mercurial egg oversimming? it seems stronger than all the A tier trinkets?

[timber pawn]

How close to Deathstalker is Fatebound simming now?

[pliant terrace]

I'm probably gonna go fatebound for court prog when my guild gets there since keeping track of the mark on that fight sucks and the cleave from fate intertwined will be nice

[faint vessel]

!wa

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[novel star]

!lag

[prisma monolith]

Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.

You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end

[crimson wigeon]

why are people playing master assassin now? what even would the uptime be on it? 12 seconds for a 2 minute fight, then +6 sec for each 2 minutes after?

[wispy epoch]

Is Fatebound competive now!?>

id love to just afk

[strange python]

where's that sheet with a lot of rogue sims

[quaint hull]

For master assasin do we just vanish ASAP in DM?

[quaint spindle]

thats waht im asking

[wispy epoch]

what's DM

[gritty laurel]

it always has been, it's just weaker defensively and doesn't do prio funnel as well, so you see more DS in higher keys and mythic raid

[coral ibex]

you vanish for imp garr pandemic

[pliant terrace]

I simmed it and its very comparable to deathstalker on ST

[nova fractal]

deathmark

[quaint hull]

so vanish to refrsh

[hollow sphinx]

#BRINGBACKECHOING

[wispy epoch]

what about aoe

[lyric oyster]

whysper did a whole video on 1.0.5 sims yesterday, just go watch his video

[balmy condor]

or wowhead

or just

fucking

AAAAAA

[wispy epoch]

i like socializing

[halcyon crypt]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

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[pliant terrace]

I'm not sure. I'd imagine it'd be better on aoe because of Fate Intertwined cleave.

[wispy epoch]

and being educated

[nova fractal]

but hear me out what if im fuckin stupid

[gritty laurel]

translation: do my reading for me

[wispy epoch]

ok im maining fatebound

this is gonna be good...

[balmy condor]

yeah the problem is 700 other people also want to be educated

one by one

[coral ibex]

if you can't read you must be really stupid

[dapper cradle]

can I get a one on one sesh, whisp?

[nova fractal]

based tbh

[dapper cradle]

i got some questions

[nova fractal]

oh no

[wispy epoch]

That's why we need a fuckin !thing that @balmy condor can just ping when people ask questions

and it just says

FATEBOUND NOW COMPETITIVE ST

VANISH FOR MASTER ASSASSIN

[spare flame]

how are we looking as PI targets these days?

[dapper cradle]

!goonmaxx

[coral ibex]

!goon

!goon

!goon

[onyx quarry]

so we dont really need to track supercharger right?

[marsh dragon]

darkest night not working with supercharged right? and if so is it supposed to be intended?

[coral ibex]

fuck

[boreal pond]

literally decimating my raid. assa changes bis

[red rivet]

Thank you for everything Whisp. Helps a lot.

[dapper cradle]

tragedy that shit doesn't work

[wispy epoch]

does anyone have a good shadowmeld stealth macro that wont hit me out of stealth accidentally from spamming it?

any nelf memers in here

[frigid void]

For dungeons are you guys running Hybrid Dslice mostly? Just got off work and have to play catch-up

[pliant terrace]

How much does master assassin change our opener? We're still using vanish for imp garrote uptime right?

[undone shale]

IS there any way at all to disable the thistle tea autocast?

[quaint spindle]

no

[raven egret]

@slate crown thanks for the TTK tracker, its working quite well here

[undone shale]

i am uninstalling

[quaint spindle]

lol

[slate crown]

Yeah see that's what I want to hear.

[hollow river]

You just use /cast !stealth
In the macro

[spice surge]

You shouldnt be proccing it anyway, but even if you do proc tea its not a huge deal

[slate crown]

LUA error this wide bar that no stacks this

Sellia comin in with the truth

[shadow badger]

i thought we were getting rid of venoms why is the st build using it

[wispy epoch]

OH...

[raven egret]

0 issues on my end it just works XD

[wispy epoch]

Okay quick question. This isn't the meta for Fatebound, right>?

I'll chop my dick off before I play Cold Blood

[coral ibex]

get to chopping

[hardy rapids]

^

[wispy epoch]

NOOOOOOOO

[lyric oyster]

chop chop

[lucid silo]

start the chop

[wispy epoch]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[hot tiger]

so if i just wanted to say fuck my team, go go gadget pure dps, i could trade iron wire for twist the knife?

[torn atlas]

shoulda made it a choice node to autocast or player cast

[wispy epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-dafoe-you-know-how-much-i-sacrificed-you-can't-do-this-to-me-i-started-this-company-gif-13934038958599986626

[hardy rapids]

you kinda just use it on cd

[coral ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1292477218462634115/vlc_2024-10-06_08-22-07.gif

[undone shale]

i dont understand why they would make this change and force it to be autocats

i am genuinely baffled

[spice surge]

Because it doesnt matter

[undone shale]

it absolutely does matter

[hollow pier]

get to pooling buddy

[spice surge]

No

[wispy epoch]

bc they dont want gamers using it at 100 energy just to stack mastery buffs

[raven egret]

Pooling buddy, pooling. Do that right and it wont matter

[spice surge]

#assassination message

[undone shale]

yeah thats what i love doing when i play world of warcraft

sitting afk meleeing to pool energy

so my thistle tea doesnt auto cast

[spice surge]

?

[snow juniper]

is there a fix for the errors from Whysper's wa package?

[spice surge]

You'd do that even without tea

Thats what assa does

[undone shale]

yes and now you do it even more

[spice surge]

Literally nothing changed with the sim logic

And its not proccing tea

[hollow pier]

just play a different spec then

[pearl mauve]

pressing thistle tea on your own won't make you wait less. You won't loose energy

[faint vessel]

You…shouldn’t be ripping your energy that low regardless of tea change or not

[pliant terrace]

I love how ttk has made it to where we just send all of our envenoms now

spec feels so much more fast paced

[slate crown]

Yeah reupdating

[vital ermine]

i just logged in and said my talent changed. where do you guys put your 1 talent point in from rogue's tree for mythic+?

[snow juniper]

ah ty

[pliant terrace]

probably lethality 2/2

[vital ermine]

ty

[wispy epoch]

what can i shove coldblooded into as a macro

kingsbane?

[pearl mauve]

the only situation I see where auto thistle tea would be annoying is if you want to throw all energy before a non dps phase (between packs or between boss phases), then it uses it while you'd get energy back during downtine anyway

[somber zodiac]

is the wow head m+ build right?

not using twist the knife?

[wispy epoch]

is numbing poison actually more worth in m+ with casters than a flat 3.7% dmg reduct?

[pliant terrace]

you use it on cd so you can probably get away with macro'ing it into envenom since only envenom will much your cold blood with fatebound

[coral ibex]

you dont need ttk in m+

[wispy epoch]

pog

[coral ibex]

you have infinite energy in aoe

[wispy epoch]

i am the lowest common denominator rogue

and im proud of it

[viscid spear]

Cold Blood?

[pliant terrace]

yea you take cold blood as fatebound

[hollow sphinx]

these changes are ass(assination)

[simple gulch]

!FUU

[prisma monolith]

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[wispy epoch]

can someone answer this all smart and shi'

[dapper cradle]

i miss old er already ngl

[blazing pumice]

it's substantially better for trash

[dapper cradle]

supercharger is ass

[young dust]

i go atrophic 10 and above

[blazing pumice]

it's not even about the casters, melees do a substantial amount of the tanks damage taken

[wispy epoch]

same

[viscid spear]

Oh, okay

[coral ibex]

mind numbing goated for m+

[viscid spear]

[coral ibex]

until your tank literally needs the 3.6% DR to not die

[dapper cradle]

prostate numbing poison when?

[torn atlas]

why would you want to numb that

[wispy epoch]

why do i need numbing poison when i already bring this

[blissful cosmos]

when playing master assain when do we vanish as soon as with hit deaths mak?

mark

[wispy epoch]

probably so they crit

and you can ambush and guaranteed masters mark on target

or w/e it's called

[desert cove]

!wa

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Whispyr's Plater

[coral ibex]

because iron wire falls off eventually and mobs are still alive

[blazing pumice]

@wispy epoch because it slows melee

[coral ibex]

it slows melee swings and casts

your tank will thank you

[dapper pumice]

is there anything worth it in the TW raid this week?

[wispy epoch]

oh shit

you're right

[fast valley]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[wispy epoch]

i missed the slowing attacks

part

im illiterate

[blazing pumice]

i think the atrophic/numbing thing is really going to be dependent on the dungeon

[dapper pumice]

also does TW raid give crests

[blazing pumice]

because there's no fort/tyr weeks anymore

[wispy epoch]

me when i get to play Fatebound now:

[robust slate]

should i actively be playing around twist the knife or just let it do its thing ?

[dapper cradle]

[dawn kelp]

does wcl track the double envenom? all my uptimes are like 98% every boss

[slate crown]

Ok pack is initially updated

[pulsar elk]

how come my Shiv is lighting up more after updating Whispyrs WA? Lights up when i dont even have kingsbane up or as soon as i pop it

[formal sorrel]

Guess im a little confused about the supercharger talent. Im not seeing which combo poit its empowering?

[rough lodge]

Is the overall rotation/gameplay the same minus using ER, basically?

[eager ibex]

is M+ fatebound or Ds

[spice surge]

All/none, its changed

[slate crown]

!wa the future is now (something is probably still broken lmk)

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[karmic tusk]

It just adds CP to your next finisher

[spice surge]

Its just next finishers now

[dapper cradle]

how much % is internal bleeding worth

[desert cove]

whispyr when will your plater profile be updated, this update broke it when I updated to the october 8th version

[stable cove]

anyone else pre pot/dm macro not working?

[desert cove]

no longer color changes on deathstalker, etc

[formal sorrel]

Oh interesting. So a full 7 pt CP finisher will be 9?

im not seeing a buff or anything thats strange. So it just empoweres the next 2 with no idication?

[coral ibex]

no idea what that is

[hollow river]

Yes and it highlights the first two combo points

To show you that you have 2 charges

[hot nexus]

is it better to not vanish while Darkest Night is up since you lose some master assassin value since DN is guaranteed crit?

or just keep vanish lined up with end of dm/kb?

[formal sorrel]

Oh I use a WA that I made Im not seeing that. I made it so I could see which CP were empowered with ER. But that was only because I could use the buff we got from ER to show that

[hollow river]

Yes a WA would have to be updated

[formal sorrel]

So it does select specific combo points?

[coral ibex]

no

[hollow river]

Not in the way you’re thinking no

[coral ibex]

its just a +2/3

[slate crown]

I do not believe WAs have updated to work with the new combo poitns

[hollow river]

You don’t have to hit them

[formal sorrel]

Oh so I dont need to make anything to track it. If I build 7 CPs its 9. 6, its 8 and so forth

[hollow river]

Word, mb

[coral ibex]

depends on how they were made, my combo points aura just marks a charged cp still

didnt need any change

[slate crown]

Yes

[hollow river]

Yes

[slate crown]

There's an API to get your charged points and an event

I had to do updates to get mine

[stable cove]

yeah my charged points dont show on afenar

[coral ibex]

add a trigger like this

[stable cove]

add a trigger to what aura

cp?

[coral ibex]

yea that's what this is on for me

[ionic fox]

Holy shit the Tea change feels SO BAD in M+

[late kestrel]

anyone have a tldr for the changes? im a bit confused

[hollow sphinx]

all the complainers got it changed.. tOo MAny buTTonS

[coral ibex]

yea read the pins

[quaint spindle]

fatebound pumps

fuck a death stalker ongod

[somber hill]

ST or M+?

[stable cove]

guys is supercharged broken for you guys too?

[quaint spindle]

i just ran it for council and it felt super good

[stable cove]

for me - supercharged is effective on cp 1 and just disappears

doing nothing

[dire sphinx]

It works

[quaint spindle]

yeah its working

[dire sphinx]

it's an always use thing now instead of landing on the combo point

[stable cove]

oh u dont have to land on certain cp?

im dumb

[dire sphinx]

yeah

[quaint spindle]

yeah its good change imo

[dire sphinx]

yeah, i'm on board with it now that i've played with it

[brave pulsar]

just farm full CP and send it ?

[dire sphinx]

that'd be cool if finishers went to 9 cp now

but nah, send it on 5 or less

otherwise you lose it

[viscid spear]

My Deathstalker Mark is falling off randomly during fights and Vanishing into an Ambush doesn't reapply it.

[quaint spindle]

fatebound bis

[somber hill]

what was the change to fateboudn that sddenly made it food for sin?

[quaint spindle]

tbh i have no clue lol

[hollow river]

Are you consuming Darkest Night

[ionic fox]

Happened to me as well

[dire sphinx]

if you send it on 7 it doesn't die, but if you send it on 6 you lose a cp

[coral ibex]

lethality is bugged

fb is double dipping or something

idk whispyr explained in his video

watch it

[dire sphinx]

that's actually kind of cool, you can stack up to 4 super charges now

and they just tick down as needed

[viscid spear]

I'll be doing just fine and all of a sudden I'll hit an Envenom and the debuff will just go away from the target

[ionic fox]

black bars on updated whispyr wa

[novel star]

that is normal

thats how envenom looks now

[viscid spear]

I'll hit Vanish and then Ambush the target, but it doesn't apply it again.
Been happening every other boss in here to me

[novel star]

because theres 2 timers to track

[wind condor]

damn we fok in openers now?

[late kestrel]

is wowhead updated with the changes today

[novel star]

no vicious venoms so yeah

[novel star]

yes

[dire sphinx]

woha, i'm playing aroudn with super charge, if you send it at 9, rupture starts a 42sec cd, giving you 9 charges?

[ivory leaf]

why do i feel like i do less damage with the new build what is a common mistake with it rn

[chilly marsh]

so this dagger is bis for the whole xpack for swapping weapon?

[dire sphinx]

err send it at 7

[ionic fox]

Deathstalker mark for sure bugged

[short flicker]

What are bis mplus trinkets