assassination

[spice spire]

Just that?

[thorn fjord]

I used your ttb build on brood and loved it

[cobalt sphinx]

You are not sending more than one garrote or rupture on 3 targets

[pliant silo]

that is one perspective

[bleak spoke]

2-3t without carnage?

[pliant silo]

I think avoiding an automatic cuck mechanic is less enjoyable than using a resource well, if we're comparing *types of skillcap*

[grim tree]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[bleak spoke]

i garrote 1/2 and then rupture the second with the bonespike from first rupture

[spice spire]

An automatic cuck mechanic

Incredible poetry

[balmy condor]

[proven jasper]

It is not that serious

[runic hinge]

Most of the resource is in the energy so if you get to 30 energy it’s being efficient for you

[novel star]

I wish i had automatic cuck mechanics irl man

[proven jasper]

[spice spire]

Howdy

[novel star]

_<

[spice spire]

That was vile I’m sorry

[tall atlas]

how do i set plater to ignore the small adds on brood

[real pike]

yo @balmy condor just watched the vid loved it thanks for making 😄 just one question, so we're aiming to envenom at 0.1sec left of 1 stack and not 2 if I understand correctly?

[novel star]

Nah ur cooking legend

go off

[bleak spoke]

i think if you are getting to sub 30 energy in the situations you're describing, you're playing with enough unforced errors that this will probably improve your dps

[balmy condor]

skillcap = good but it's bad when I don't like the particular skillcap and this is a cuck mechanic and the numbers don't really matter and it just happens but I don't want to be convinced that my anger is misplaced, I want to be angry

good talk

[bleak spoke]

i'm sorry if it sounds rude

[pliant silo]

pretty straightforward to want agency in your class and not have to learn to avoid triggering automatic losses

[proven jasper]

If you hit 30 energy and tea auto procs its a good use

Not sure what else there is to cry over

[pliant silo]

rather than learning synergies and triggering things that benefit damage

[balmy condor]

you can pandemic the stack with less duration like you do now, so anytime in the last 1.5ish seconds on the smaller duration is fine

[real pike]

ooohhhhh ok just can't pandemic the double stack and it's not efficient to try and clip 2 stacks all the time? so the minigame is basically unchanged

[thorn fjord]

That’s a creed song

[hot jay]

I'm not jaded enough to understand the tea change hate, it seems like it will not affect me at all (weird change but does nothing to me?), I hope the angry people are having fun blowing steam I guess

[runic hinge]

Do you CT in single target?

[novel star]

its just a really small change that reads like a big one but doesnt actually have much numerical impact

[copper shore]

we rogues always find a way around and as always we manage

[novel star]

it more or less just doesnt affect anyone at all in a relevant way

[pliant silo]

it's simply a bad change

I know assa cares about tea less than sub

[thorn fjord]

What you meant to say is complain

[novel star]

but it reads like it would

[pliant silo]

but it's overall bad

[severe sparrow]

it's 0.2% bad

[spice spire]

Is it

[pliant silo]

and you guys are agreeing with that by saying it is a loss

[spice spire]

Or is it subjectively bad

[runic hinge]

not pressing ct in single target is a bigger loss than miss playing your tea

[pliant silo]

automatic and a loss = bad

nerf gg

[proven jasper]

??

[molten flicker]

bro are u ok irl?

[thorn fjord]

Gottem

[royal lantern]

HUH

thats a take

a really bad and wrong take

but a take

[spice spire]

It makes the class more accessible and it’s able to be played around for consistent gains

[proven jasper]

extremely wrong take

[hollow stone]

some ppl just need to feel nerfed so they can feel something when they beat somebody on a pull in a key

[spice spire]

Was gonna wait but I got a good one now

[bleak spoke]

i think it's bad because they're not giving a choice node for it, which seems player unfriendly. gameplaywise? it should be fairly irrelevant if you're playing properly

and it's beneficial if you don't

[cobalt sphinx]

Yeah it should definitely be a choice

[tropic cedar]

based

[copper shore]

we can vent here but I think rogues through the years have been versatile people. We will cope share win and manage

[spice spire]

I mean it probably will be later

But

[severe sparrow]

yeah tbh, i love this class and it's not complicated to me, but everyone i know who tries making a rogue alt hates it. we can make the class a lil more accessable idk

[novel star]

holy based name @spice spire

[spice spire]

It’s like for shadowcrash and earthquake

[cobalt sphinx]

It seems very bizarre for them to add QoL that reduces your damage under the guise of making a helpful change

[daring hamlet]

they gave priests a choice node when they made a similar design choice for shadow crash node

[spice spire]

You absolutely can place them there. And hardcore OTPS do

[bleak crag]

I don't like the change, but really it doesn't change anything if you play around it (Almost)

[novel star]

it is a helpful change for all of the noobs it was made for

[hollow stone]

Choice node would be ideal, sure, but what we are getting is perfectly fine

[thorn fjord]

That reduction is negligible and I promise you won’t feel it

[bleak crag]

the dps loss is minor and it does remove a button

[balmy condor]

we don't have APL support required to fully check TTK logic, but yeah for the most part just same uptime minigame at 2 stacks instead of 1 and if you run out of energy you run out I guess L + ratio, join the guy fuming about auto tea

[spice spire]

But my ass absolutely just has target

[bleak spoke]

[novel star]

if you are a forum poster button bloat complainer

[hot jay]

Assassination seems chill for me so far as a new rogue (haven't played rogue since BFA) but I haven't touched sub yet so idk

[novel star]

being able to just not care about tea and take it off ur bars and barely lose damage is kinda beast

[spice spire]

I mean button bloat is a common complaint

[molten flicker]

mind numbing or atrophic in keys?

[thorn fjord]

You won’t be touching it after tomorrow

[bleak spoke]

in a way, it feels very similar, doesn't it

[spice spire]

Not just the forum people

But yeah

I’ll likely still touch tea

[thorn fjord]

Touch me bro

[spice spire]

In ST but in m+? Miss me with that

[novel star]

me first

[spice spire]

Mfs wilding rn

[hollow stone]

Most ppl play numbing but both have value

[copper shore]

I think we need to focus more on rupture maintenance in keys at least. As for raiding hmm I don't know what it will give. As a pure class I guess we can not expect assa to fill everything. most fights work well as subt tbh being ST bursty and in a raid everyone has a job meters will not always show unless you dive into it

[balmy condor]

I'm just macroing it idk

[spice spire]

Oh you’re actually doing the thing

Good for u king

[solar orbit]

are you macroing feint to tea as well? /s

[quartz cobalt]

as long as fatebound isn't a thing as assa after patch idc, idk what cosmic damage is but i don't want it anywhere near my rogue

[balmy condor]

yeah I mean sims don't pay attention to energy levels when pushing tea

why should I

[hot jay]

I also appreciate that I don't necessarily have to run sanguine node in ST (whatever is spending energy to do a minor bleed dupe tick)

[spice spire]

Now I can’t yell at people for macroing shiv and tea

Damn

[meager echo]

open with carnage, because if a use just garrote > rupture the carnage not finish and I can overlapping garrote > rupture the same target. But it's not worth it, right?

[novel star]

fatebound is back to being better than ds

in raid

i think

technically

[quartz cobalt]

man our hero talents are such garbage

so boring

[cerulean walrus]

Holy based

[hot jay]

For just pure single bosses yeah?

[spice spire]

Maybe, lot of logic wasn’t quite in yet and Vhispyr has some tcing to do for deathstalker

[cerulean walrus]

I’m about to macro shiv and tea now

[novel star]

ya

[bleak spoke]

uh hard to say, because previously i would use the empowered garrote to hit echoing points etc but like, now it's fucked

[cerulean walrus]

Just for you bb

[hot jay]

DB brings the giga funnel

[thorn fjord]

[novel star]

obv singular focus goes insane

[hollow stone]

In pure st they are simming the same iirc so db will be better slightly due to funnel

[novel star]

on like brood

etc

[thorn fjord]

I’ve been macroing tea to shiv for a long time now

[cerulean walrus]

Disgusting

[spice spire]

Gambling is haram so miss me w that

[hot jay]

I checked my guilds brood logs, we are progging that one and yeah uh

[thorn fjord]

And I’ll outplay most the people
Complaining about the change lmao

[spice spire]

I’m about to hit filter

[hot jay]

Our sin rogue is boning the bosses butthole

Through funnel

[spice spire]

[hollow stone]

Yup

[thorn fjord]

I remember filter

[cerulean walrus]

I’ll be your automatic cuck mechanic bb

[bleak spoke]

tbh you outplay most people by casting crimson tempest

[hollow stone]

The funnel goes hard on Ovi

[coral ibex]

CT cranks ovi via singular focus

[cerulean walrus]

Quake likes to watch (as his tea is automatically consumed)

[thorn fjord]

Absolutely cranks

[vast loom]

singular focus goes hard indeed

[spice spire]

Real

[bleak spoke]

^actually it's not just singular focus, it's also the ct cast itself

[slim pebble]

Is flensing knife getting fixed tomorrow

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/34i7O37.png people literally don't read this line

[spice spire]

Buddy I can’t read

[hot jay]

The real question

[royal lantern]

quake consumes his tea only by choice, energy never runs out

[bleak spoke]

automatically cucked by literacy tests

[cerulean walrus]

If flensing gets fixed it’s joever boys

[thorn fjord]

Energy exploit

[slim pebble]

I realized I wasn't even running the talent that gave us the extra dps

[cobalt sphinx]

Flensing being fixed is a pretty big nerf tbf

[spice spire]

Real

[bleak spoke]

if flensing gets fixed i will never talent long cloak agian

[real pike]

oh ok so worth trying to clip 2 stacks but don't worry too much about it ig. I wonder if we'll end up smashing 2 envenoms next to each other so we're kinda clipping both or if that's a stupid idea. thanks though!

[thorn fjord]

All this going on and DN bug still alive and kicking

[spice spire]

What’s dn

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah but you see I only drink half my tea charge that’s the secret

[spice spire]

[vast loom]

[spice spire]

Nice

[thorn fjord]

[dull pulsar]

automatic tea what we thinking ?

[balmy condor]

uptime is good, so should be easy enough

[cerulean walrus]

Oh boy here we go again

[spice spire]

It’s fine

[balmy condor]

irrelevant change with no impact

[dull pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

nice, was scared of some dumb overlaps

[cerulean walrus]

No no no Whispyr you don’t remember?

[bleak spoke]

we have most certainly paused on the thinking front

[cerulean walrus]

It’s an automatic cuck mechanic

[thorn fjord]

If we don’t post about the tea change for a straight 24 hours everyone gets a pizza party

[cerulean walrus]

[balmy condor]

It's been 0 minutes since tea

[cerulean walrus]

How do you not remember?

[balmy condor]

restart the timer

[cobalt sphinx]

0 minutes since a tea counter-jerk too

[bleak spoke]

well, its got a 1 minute cooldown after all

[thorn fjord]

[bleak spoke]

[cerulean walrus]

(It’s on CD again) ((It was auto consumed))

[fallen moss]

https://tenor.com/view/theoffice-dwight-dwightschrute-jim-jimhalpert-gif-7822420

[cerulean walrus]

God I hate being British. ITS TEA TIME INNIT IM GONNA CHUG MY TEA

[thorn fjord]

Is whispyr Jim or Dwight

[bleak spoke]

i just realized this sim is literally drinkin all your tea in this minute and it's still only 1.8%

[coral ibex]

love a good counter jerk

[cerulean walrus]

Oh good heavens I’m below 30 energy I do believe it’s tea time Bernard!

[coral ibex]

such a thing will be rare in ST, apparently

[bleak spoke]

nice moment for a cuppa, since i'm just poolin here, Mabel

[thorn fjord]

BERNARD BRING THE CRUMPETS OLD CHAP

[balmy condor]

well you also simmed aoe

[severe sparrow]

What does thistle tea even taste like irl though

[balmy condor]

and in aoe it just drinks

for mastery

cause there's no opportunity otherwise

[bleak spoke]

yh

[coral ibex]

its bitter with a pine taste

[thorn fjord]

Like a Snapple

[molten flicker]

what is flensing knives?

[balmy condor]

I'm the chalkboard

[severe sparrow]

Snapple tasted better from the glass bottles

[thorn fjord]

Hard agree

[balmy condor]

a deleted talent that doesn't exist but does exist through magic voodoo and forbidden bug abuse

[bleak spoke]

if i write on u will u squeal

[balmy condor]

(take ethereal cloak and it comes back)

[simple yoke]

lack of micros XD

[forest nacelle]

do i run supercharger for fatebound?

[balmy condor]

no

[forest nacelle]

kk

[balmy condor]

fatebound is hard locked into cold blood

forever and ever

[forest nacelle]

i figured

all g

xD

[solar orbit]

2 stacks of coin seems hard to pass

[bleak spoke]

it's too bad the other talent is hot ass

[forest nacelle]

yeah it is

[solar orbit]

I don't get why would they lock CB to fatebound

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/cz894tD.png your destiny is to do no damage, i guess

[fallen moss]

Do y'all think this channel is the most active of all the class discords? (I love it btw)

[stray adder]

arcane mage discord is pretty wild

[coral ibex]

mage

[thorn fjord]

Other class discords?

[forest nacelle]

there are other discords?

[proven jasper]

Theres other classes?

[fallen moss]

never heard of her

[simple yoke]

This one is by farm the most active

[spice spire]

Oh no

[kindred hinge]

Yes there is Outlaw haven't you heard ?

[simple yoke]

So... I know knoe getting the combustable poison thing on is required, but what exactly does it do with kingsbane?

[coral ibex]

combustible poison?

[stray adder]

my hand hasnt recovered from playing outlaw 2 years ago

[lethal arrow]

we're getting a bomb poison?

[coral ibex]

which one is that

[lethal arrow]

we're fire mage now

[simple yoke]

Idk, Mutilate activates it supposed to aoE some nature damage?

[coral ibex]

do you mean poison bomb?

[lethal arrow]

u mean caustic spatter?

[cerulean walrus]

We ain’t making it through TSA with this one

[balmy condor]

combustable mut poison

[simple yoke]

Crash wins

Yes

[severe sparrow]

Outlaw but play it with a ddr dance pad

[cerulean walrus]

Nah it’s bomb poison

[simple yoke]

Fittest WoW player in 1 week

[sour oasis]

thanks for your video whispyr

[kindred hinge]

Roguue diiscord is definitely one if not the most active. Some other class are downright deserted. You should have seen the state of Enh channel before they got turbo broken

[cerulean walrus]

You inject your target with nitroglycerin and then hold up a match

[simple yoke]

So yes, exactly how does Caustic Spatter interact with Kingsbane

[solar orbit]

that entire discord is a desert overall...

[proven jasper]

Kb spatters

it just interacts

[cerulean walrus]

Well it’s a poison

So

[simple yoke]

ooooh shit... that's s amazing okay okay

[cerulean walrus]

Spatter says that your poisons do the thing

[balmy condor]

all nature damage pretty much

envenom and shit

[solar orbit]

Why hasn't blizzard modified spatter to nature damage, unplayable gg

[simple yoke]

Big hole in my AoE rotation, not ensuring spatter is on before kingsbanning

[lethal arrow]

Yeah it just spreads the dmg from KB

[balmy condor]

silly tooltips

[proven jasper]

yeah thats a big hole

[cerulean walrus]

Tooltips being relevant?

Nah

[simple yoke]

stills splashes if you mutilate after, or must be applied before KB?

[normal mist]

I'm always here and never anywhere else so yeah this is the most active of all time

[balmy condor]

hole?

[solar orbit]

You should have spatter on anyways, you want to envenom lol

[proven jasper]

Its dynamic but you’d want spatter up first

[cerulean walrus]

We need more “???” And “Swirl the Mojo until it crystallizes” descriptions please

[simple yoke]

Indeed I do, but I'm jsut trying to figure how intentianal I need to be

[silk bane]

calm down buddy, i was in line for the hole first

[lethal arrow]

We need more nature damage so I can convince my raid to give me ansurek ring

[cerulean walrus]

Whispyr was a big fan of the mojo swirling

[solar orbit]

Fucking ansurek ring dropped yesterday and the lock got it ffs

[proven jasper]

Holes

[simple yoke]

Ansurek ring should exclusively to rogue anyhow who else does this much nature?

Boomy?

[cerulean walrus]

Oh no someone said the thing

[lethal arrow]

Yeah last week we gave it to a DK cuz the stats were too good

[severe sparrow]

My biggest hole in aoe is forgetting i only have 1 shiv charge and sending it before kb

[proven jasper]

Alot of specs do

[solar orbit]

... enh

[cerulean walrus]

[coral ibex]

ansurek ring doesn't interact with rogue talents

[simple yoke]

oh fair enough yeah

[cerulean walrus]

Bro it’s literally just

You do damage?

Ring good

[lethal arrow]

Enhance does way more nature

[cerulean walrus]

[solar orbit]

Enh/Ele are just about spamming lightning bolt/chain lightning at this point

[balmy condor]

ring?

[solar orbit]

Enh is basically melee ele

[cerulean walrus]

Cock ring yeah

I’ll show you

[spice spire]

Seek help bestie

[cerulean walrus]

Half inch thick titanium bro

Let’s go

[proven jasper]

Cuck Tea?

[balmy condor]

no elpin

[novel star]

automatic cuck mechanic

[spice spire]

You rang

[novel star]

so many wacky characters show up in here man

[proven jasper]

We could all use one

[novel star]

what an awesome discord

[cerulean walrus]

I Skardyn’s on his Grace until he Mandate on my Mad Queen

[cerulean nest]

yo @slate crown you updating this for 11.0.5?

https://wago.io/lcM4ssa54

[solar orbit]

Fuck skardyn

[silk bane]

she is

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-fire-bro-how-bro-felt-gif-8015564281503585223

[cerulean nest]

sweet

[cerulean walrus]

I cooked bro

[severe sparrow]

Wait is it not? What pandemic bar am i using

[cerulean walrus]

Don’t deny

[severe sparrow]

Shit

[silk bane]

but patch needs to be live first cuz ptrs down and she cant test

[torpid lion]

so basically alot of these changes made our burst wayy stronger with overlaping envenoms, where does that put us on the power infusion chart

[novel star]

automatic cuck mechanic , found a man dating on my queen....

[mint valve]

Where can we see new patch talent tree?

[severe sparrow]

Oh wait patch

[cerulean walrus]

So real oomfie

[novel star]

I cooked

[spice spire]

Pins

[mint valve]

Are we changing the capstone for ER to 2x lethality for m+?

[silk bane]

waht if i pin u down

[stray adder]

rest in piss SnD

[simple yoke]

We have notes for tomorrow patch?

[proven jasper]

She twist the knife on my tiny toxic blade until i caustic spatter

[spice spire]

Dog?

[bleak spoke]

TRUE AND REAL

[silk bane]

https://tenor.com/view/moto-madagascar-sexy-eyes-how-you-doing-gif-8807297

[solar orbit]

I never thought about pandemic for envenom

[balmy condor]

[balmy condor]

wdym you've never thought about pandemic

[lethal arrow]

There isn't pandemic for envenom

[proven jasper]

Missing half the gameplay loop for assa

yes there is??

[stark umbra]

📉

[proven jasper]

env buff pandemics brotherman

[balmy condor]

what is happening

[cerulean nest]

didnt mean to expose ppl my fault

[vast loom]

who told you this

[novel star]

wha

yes there is

[simple yoke]

I don't even know what pandemicing means

[balmy condor]

!pd

[prisma monolith]

Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

[stark umbra]

bro just found out he hasnt been playing the spec

[proven jasper]

[solar orbit]

I do think about pandemic for bleeds

[novel star]

[solar orbit]

Never took it into account for envenom

[lethal arrow]

It's a myth

Fairy dust

[vast loom]

pandemic isnt real it cant hurt you

[solar orbit]

I just press envenom at 1 second, never thought about extending the envenom buff for pandemic purposes

[balmy condor]

https://tenor.com/view/big-eyed-cat-stare-cat-giant-eye-cat-gif-26545953

[lethal arrow]

It's not real

[simple yoke]

so for a 7 second buff you can get it to 9 seconds by doing it right

[solar orbit]

yeah, I know how it works, I just forgot that you can do that with envenom, because I just pressed it at ~1 second

[simple yoke]

Which gives you enough, to really hit things right for extending it repeatedly

[orchid cedar]

one question about new supercharger
what if the animacharged cp is the frist one or the second?

should we avoid that?

[vast loom]

its just yuour next finisher no more minigame

[simple yoke]

avoid a free 7cp finisher?

[vast loom]

+3 cp on next finisher

[stark umbra]

^

[thorn fjord]

We gonna overcap to get 10cp finisher or is that not how it works?

[vast loom]

you could end on 1 for 4cp

[dull cloak]

you probably just go for a 6 or 7 cp still

[simple yoke]

oooooh, I mean... that's spooky, do we favor envemon or rupture if....

[solar orbit]

We're still pressing at 5+?

[stark umbra]

6/7 probs

[orchid cedar]

oh so the description is a bit missleading

[vast loom]

the video said we still finish on 5 and you could probabvly ignore it for now

[hexed frost]

At this point just give us preparation or whatever that ability was that let us store 10 cp

[stray adder]

10cp envenom login

[novel star]

Ye

them saying charged combo points still is stupid as fuck

just holding it over from reprimand for no reason

doesnt have the mechanic at all

[stray adder]

that shit gonna crit for 20m

[thorn fjord]

Yeah weird blizz has always been really good with tool tips

[novel star]

never said its weird

just stupid

[thorn fjord]

Good thing I can’t read

[novel star]

same goat

[torpid lion]

so are we still saving shiv for kings bane always or just send on cd?

[novel star]

no gameplay change

you just send a normal shiv and it passively gives you a slightly bigger envenom

[strange python]

If you send it on cd you send it for kingsbane

[novel star]

cool awesome

[strange python]

Crazy concept

[thorn fjord]

We pouring one out for sub?

Poor bastards

[torpid lion]

im talking single target in raid

[stray adder]

🫗

[vast loom]

yup shiv is still the same

[torpid lion]

you want one shiv for start and end of kings

[vast loom]

watch the video 🙂

[torpid lion]

where video

[vast loom]

he covers a lot im pretty sure

[torpid lion]

foiund it

[torpid lion]

dont

yeeeee

[vast loom]

D:

[torpid lion]

beat u too it

[proven jasper]

[strange python]

You’d have to pour the whole bottle

For it even doing remotely anything

[thorn fjord]

Hate to see it

[shut garnet]

does the main stat buff from scent of blood still linger after the mobs die? i noticed 4-5 stacks of it top right even after the pack is dead sometimes 👀

does it stay up for the remaining duration of rupture on them even after they die or

[balmy condor]

well if they die they don't have rupture

so the stacks go down

[shut garnet]

i dont think you read what i just wrote the right way around kek

[balmy condor]

I did

mob dies = no rupture = no scent stack

[static glacier]

all im saying is fuu's post-article about the author wins

[shut garnet]

sure, and what I said was that sometimes the mobs will die and the scent stacks are still there

[vast loom]

if you have stacks after they die you might have 6+ rups instead of 5

[balmy condor]

that's a bug with your UI then

[shut garnet]

fair enough

[molten flicker]

Feint no longer triggers a global cooldown when activated. <-

😮

[vital merlin]

Heyo. So, new to rogue. Hit max Friday and jumped right in raiding.

I find myself energy staved outside of KB windows or sitting around doing nothing but auto attack to build back into them.

Sometimes not. I can’t seem to find good info on “what to do between”.

Is it just my crit is to low to maintain energy returns?

If the info is somewhere else, point me that way please.

Thanks for reading the wall.

[balmy condor]

bro cooked with it, I looked at the code for it for fun and it hurt

[slate crown]

Yup, I will be. The overall pack may be a day delayed because of some RL stuff taking my time. But I already have a cooked version of the env bar. I haven’t been able to test it because ptr has been down.

[balmy condor]

every letter a different color

[twilit lagoon]

So, with DN we cast envenom at max CP or if we were on an anima charged CP (since it counted as max). Does supercharger make a 5 point CP act as max if we had a 7 cap? Or does this just mean we go to 7 always now (assuming we're spec'd into having a cap of 7)?

[static glacier]

like you can tell there's some crazy cook going on

[balmy condor]

you maintain the uptime on envenom between cooldowns

if you run out of energy you run out

such is life

[static glacier]

guy n whispyr out here with the standard copypasta yap

[sturdy python]

hey whispyr, how's the APL stuff going? thanks for your video on 11.0.5 btw

[static glacier]

meanwhile fuu moving like a dior model

[balmy condor]

fine

not much to think about cause TTK is boned

[strange python]

Guy wins this battle

Just rtb

[sturdy python]

real??

[balmy condor]

I mean TTK support in the APL doesn't exist

[vital merlin]

Ok. I thought I might be doing something wrong. I’m used to wind walker so there is always a button to push.

Thank you!

[balmy condor]

I can only access the timer for the most recent stack

which is not helpful

[sturdy python]

what's the blocker? is that a simc problem?

[balmy condor]

I mean obviously it's a simc problem lmao

[static glacier]

what conditions you mentally cooked up to try when it's implemented

[stray adder]

bunch of slackers

they need more coffee

[balmy condor]

but it just doesn't have a variable set up for that which I can read

[stray adder]

and less sleep

[balmy condor]

I mean I just need it to clip the bottom buff since it pandemics

but I don't know what the bottom buff is at

so I can't clip it

[sturdy python]

not completely obvious to me as I'm still cutting my teeth on all of the APL stuff

[static glacier]

is it ever a play for 1 stack uptime then avoid overcapping energy?

it should naturally maximise 2stack uptime id imagine

[balmy condor]

anything sim related is simc :P

APL is simc

it's all simc

[sturdy python]

okay got it, thanks

[tall atlas]

should i save my cds for adds on brood or just send

[balmy condor]

I mean that's basically what it does now

and it seems fine

but rapid injection kinda wants you to not do that

[balmy condor]

send, it should line up

[static glacier]

i think playing for min clipping 2stack is fine for the machine but real players will clown it

[shy pecan]

!design

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[tall atlas]

ty qt

[dawn pollen]

The vanish garrote you use for pandemic is that 6 sec cds left of garrote or deathmark ?

[shy pecan]

Oh, Whispyr answered

[balmy condor]

it naturally lines up to vanish in the back half of your deathmark in opener

[somber galleon]

anyone know how accurate raidbots will sim sacbrood trinket?

[static glacier]

ur cds will line up for all subsequent dms after the first one

[balmy condor]

very accurate

[static glacier]

you might hold like 5-10s

[balmy condor]

it's not a complicated effect

[tall atlas]

so pull then like a couple seconds then gogogo

[somber galleon]

@balmy condor ah ty i was just wondering since it says its 1,4% worse then spyglass

[balmy condor]

reasonable

spyglass is pretty good

[static glacier]

ye, open as normal

don't hold at all on opener

[cobalt sphinx]

does spyglass lose significant value on aoe

[static glacier]

if ur running the no ic / imp gar build you're safe to hold vanish for dropping web circle if u get it

[balmy condor]

no

[hollow elk]

is assa gonna play worse after the patch

[balmy prism]

what are the active m+ discord these days? Tryna find people for 12s and 13s and cba sitting ingame for hours

[tropic cedar]

damage wise probably not, but i will miss the ER minigame for sure

[bronze pike]

nah

er minigame is subjective tho

[arctic socket]

@balmy condor idk if this has been answered or tested but was supercharged shiv envenoms applying mark?

[hollow elk]

ER the best

TTK just seems weird to me

[balmy condor]

ofc

[zenith wasp]

yo

for tea + shiv: I was casting tea on the last 6 seconds of my kb + shiv window (without capping on energy) // I see the suggestion to just macro it together, is there any (possibly insignifiant) gain to keep doing it at last 6sec of kb (during shiv) or there is actually no difference at all and i've been doing nonsense?

[arctic socket]

Isn’t gonna be a repeat of er?

[bronze pike]

this is the worst change

[balmy prism]

you would definitely overcap energy if you macro right?

[balmy condor]

I just said it works

[proven jasper]

Terrible

old flag way better

[balmy condor]

we didn't time tea before

[hollow elk]

icons and animations of rogue garbo

[static glacier]

are you gcd capped in the 1st 6s of kb?

[balmy condor]

idk where the 6s is coming from

[zenith wasp]

kk so it's really just tea during shiv -- idk why ive been timing it

ty

[static glacier]

10.2

xd

[balmy prism]

it lines up nicely with second shiv charge and I find it hard to use tea without capping during bl at all

but ye it's minor I guess and you delay charges

[hollow elk]

tea for mastery like a G

[vestal wren]

the meme is, the new icon looks the same if selected or not

i did a re-color of it some weeks ago in #subtlety, let me find it

[balmy condor]

it's been nearly a full year

[sturdy python]

@balmy condor re: ttk/async envenom, could we use a custom expression to track each stack? like a stack change callback, when increment, create an event with the duration of the buff, which the expression then checks the remaining duration of the event? then remove the event on decrement?

I could probably try to write an example, I'm just acclimatising to simc syntax

[static glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smirk-dog-smirking-evil-gif-1174039551531775064

[spice spire]

Bro

[zenith cedar]

Chest craft looking p good right about now 🙂

[spice spire]

People have been hardstuck 10.2 logic

Forever

[vestal wren]

red one looks ncie

[hollow elk]

this rapid injection ttk bullshit is annoying me already

[static glacier]

ez way to beat the last 6s logic is explain that energy is more valuable to KB earlier in its duration than at the end

[balmy condor]

sure I guess, that would need to be written into the engine, that's c++ stuff, I don't touch that typically

[spice spire]

Yeah or just ask why someone teas there

And if they say mastery

I hold back the bad words and tell them it was only this way for a singular iteration. Things change we move forward

And sometimes

We move back to tbat

And laugh

Chuckle even

[balmy condor]

but isnt mastery important for end of kingsbane?? 🙂

[cobalt sphinx]

it is

[balmy condor]

kingsbane is big cooldown eys? 🙂

[arctic socket]

Ty

[spice spire]

I’m about to shut ur mouth with my lips bud

[static glacier]

energy is important for the start of kindergarten Kingsbane

[balmy condor]

okay so then me tea final 6s of kingsbane ten

[strange python]

Why no one vanish last 3 second of kingsbane?

[balmy condor]

cause me no read guide after 2023

I am one with chatgpt

[spice spire]

That’s come up like

[strange python]

[balmy condor]

chatgpt is me

I do not have any data past 2023

[spice spire]

1/10 of my reviews

[static glacier]

bc imp gar runs out with like 5-8s left of KB

right after 2nd shiv

[strange python]

Bro

Im being sarcastic

[balmy condor]

maybe you're also chatgpt

[static glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/chatgpt-cheating-cheating-no-idea-idea-generator-random-gif-27526767

[spice spire]

Can chat gpt leave feral

[hollow elk]

my balls might vanish too

[static glacier]

fetal

[balmy condor]

needs new training data

(wowhead guide)

[strange python]

Even chat gpt would leave feral

Every sane thing should

[bronze pike]

red looks nice

[proper hare]

havent seen the notes etc yet, is snd off the bars next patch

[spice spire]

Sure

[balmy condor]

it is

[sturdy python]

yeah it is, I'll get on it, I've found the lines already

[balmy condor]

but you should probably consider reading the notes

and then coming back

[strange python]

I‘m running out of things to put on my bars slowly but surely

[vestal cliff]

do we have some good loot in blackrock depths next week?

[strange python]

They are just empty

[stray adder]

we are the new BM hunters

empty bars

[shadow patio]

Anyone else just like why did they change echoing reprimand?

So confused

[strange python]

God I finally started playing my enhance alt the other day

Love piano

[shadow patio]

Who asked for this

[strange python]

So fun

[hollow elk]

how much damage are we gonna lose if we constantly clip envenom early

[strange python]

All my bars are filled amen

[safe barn]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[balmy condor]

like 1%

[hollow elk]

dang

more than nothing

sadge

[balmy condor]

well yah

that's why we do that

[static glacier]

dw king, you gain the pleasure of PUMPING MASSIVE ENVENOMS

[balmy condor]

if it wasn't better we wouldn't do it

[proper hare]

watching your vid in this very moment, king

[hollow elk]

hell yea

[static glacier]

while the beta losers pool their energy

[hollow elk]

10m with FI darkest night?

[balmy condor]

nice

[balmy condor]

is 10m not possible atm?

[old hedge]

is the assa cd opener always deathmark > shiv > thistle tea > kingsbane?

[hollow elk]

idk i feel like 7-8m is max no

[balmy condor]

sure yeah

[hollow elk]

havent seen a 10er yet

[strange python]

Someone posted a 13 earlier no?

[balmy condor]

I've had numbers turned off since mid legion I have no clue

[hollow elk]

i dont look at them

[balmy condor]

but I think last I checked logs I saw a 6m kb on ansurek

so on mists first boss that's 12mil already

without much thought

6m env*

not kb

brain lag

[hollow elk]

well i mean like dummy damage

[strange python]

Unbuffed dummy damage sure you won’t hit those

But why does dummy damage matter

[hollow elk]

ye

[balmy condor]

💀

dummy

[hollow elk]

doesnt matter

[simple yoke]

anyone know Nova's videos, and if not his, anyone's where they have a scroll ability used add on ? Showing what they pressed in what order?

[hollow elk]

mists 1st boss damage is cheating tho

[strange python]

Are you disrespecting dummy mains?

[hollow elk]

we want that raw number yk

[kindred hinge]

11m50 on silken, also cheating

[strange python]

That’s not very inclusive sir

[hollow elk]

cheater

[daring hamlet]

oh can someone just give me the tl;dr on cloak for first boss of NW? it worked as I would expect everyt time I presssed it but one time this week I 100% pressed cloak and still got 1-shot by wretch

[strange python]

Has to be in the first second

[daring hamlet]

got it thx

[torpid lion]

does anyone have any 11.0.5 PI charts

[arctic socket]

Just press feint

[daring hamlet]

nah you get one shot through feint

at the key levels im doing

[arctic socket]

We aren’t pi targets 😭

[arctic socket]

With elusiveness?

[kindred hinge]

Running elu ?

[torpid lion]

our burst window did just get a boost

[old hedge]

does anyone have a quick tip how to make bleeds flash on plater nameplate when they are in pandemic window?

[torpid lion]

woud love to see the numbers

[daring hamlet]

yeah

[kindred hinge]

You are doing 14s ?

[hollow elk]

how do you get oneshot through elu

atomic bomb?

[arctic socket]

Yeah what lvl keys are you doing

[arctic socket]

Kinda like a plague bomb

[simple yoke]

purpose for 14s these days beside bragging?

[daring hamlet]

ye

[kindred hinge]

Because 12/13 I only got os once through elu and that was more because my smooth brain pressed too early. But 14 make sense then

[arctic socket]

Bigger numbers 👌

[bleak spoke]

fun

[simple yoke]

Fair enough

[balmy condor]

bigger number better person

everyone knows this

that's why I'm a stupid talentless cuck according to reddit

[simple yoke]

Saaaame

[kindred hinge]

But I had that also cloak not mitigating and I was wtf?

[daring hamlet]

there's a title you can collect for 0.1%

[simple yoke]

not even at 2K, yet, I gotta get my damage down, I'm 619,a nd I feel like a mega anchor even in 8s

[bleak spoke]

yeah you and your automatic cuck raiderio score @balmy condor

[subtle tundra]

doing challenging content

[kindred hinge]

Pushing the limits can be satisfaction in itself

[balmy condor]

the goal is to have more grim batol runs than io score

[simple yoke]

Fair enough, my idea of that though is how far can I get in Elden ring without putting in a level

[vale shore]

we have any chase loot in BRD or am I taking my alts there?

[balmy condor]

alts

[rotund oak]

[bleak spoke]

what if you reach your goal and still don't get a skardyn's

[balmy condor]

all of it is basically just hero track equal stuff

[simple yoke]

RIP it on main for fun though first.

[stray adder]

just to make sure, with the M+ build we only run 1 shiv charge so we shiv when there is 8sec left on kb?

[balmy condor]

would be wild

[balmy condor]

yes

[vale shore]

well, thats about where I am at now, my trinkets are heroic contract and imperfect ascendancy serum

[balmy condor]

I'm like 40ish grim batols deep without a skardyns

only 2600 to go

[bleak spoke]

[rotund oak]

no way

[simple yoke]

Jesus... you're making me sick, I need that trinket, but I don't want to do Grim 40 times, nor am I getting invited frequently enought o even justify

[daring hamlet]

this was almost exactly when I got it

[balmy condor]

yeah so I didn't actually need to do it this many times

if @spice spire could trade

[bleak spoke]

if i get a grim batol key i will ping you

[balmy condor]

but he's an automatic cuck by name

so

you see the issue

[spice spire]

Damn

[simple yoke]

I mean... was it his highest ilvl though?

[spice spire]

Real

[spice spire]

Yes

I had 603 trinkets at the time

[simple yoke]

So it's blizzards fault

[proven jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/digging-for-diamonds-never-give-up-gamble-gambling-keep-gambling-gif-15498081004227486559

[vale shore]

ive handed off heroic ara kara sackbroods

[balmy condor]

we ran triple rogue to funnel the trinket to me and he couldn't trade

what a bozo

[bleak spoke]

that really do be an automatic cuck situation

[buoyant ridge]

hey guys i am new on assa rough overall new on roughe is assa rough getting a good buff or not tomorrow?

[bleak spoke]

[spice spire]

Mf I’m sorry damn

[balmy condor]

6% in st

[balmy condor]

my band director always told us "don't be sorry, be better"

[warped jackal]

can i see the detail math on how much % dps lose/ increase for patch 11.0.5 ?

[bleak spoke]

check pins

for sims

[warped jackal]

did some one calcualted it ? ?

oh ok

[cerulean walrus]

This will age like milk when we find that flensing is gone

[balmy condor]

the bot calculated it for us

[warped jackal]

why not put it in assassination-faq like otehr classes ?

[buoyant ridge]

Is slice and dice a automatic passiv now? i heard smt like that

[bleak spoke]

we smacked the bot around quite a few times

[vale shore]

yes

[subtle tundra]

wooooooooah 2% st im fucking ruined

[drowsy hatch]

It adds time based on envenom without pressing it in the first place, so effectively passive

[bleak spoke]

god i hope flensing is gone

[cerulean walrus]

Huge 2%

[balmy condor]

pins are for short-term stuff idk

[bleak spoke]

please god let flensing be gone

[proven jasper]

Why not check pins

[balmy condor]

every "faq" that gets asked is answered in the guides

so the faq just links to the guide

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah so real

So based

[vale shore]

Shadowheart shall soon rise to viability. Believe it!

[bleak spoke]

i've trapped myself so many times

[buoyant ridge]

Thank you guys for the help^^

[bleak spoke]

"okay i can take long cloak here for more damage"

and then 10 minutes later

I'm like

"well i'll hit evasion anyway for fun"

"but i think i'm dead to this?"

[spice spire]

How about you be better and actually loot skardyns get ur bands up damn

[warped jackal]

pin work but i was wondering why other classes put it in faq and some dont .

[stray adder]

took me 5 months to get grieftorch in DF season 1

[balmy condor]

I run laps around you and doz with both trinkets unequipped don't play me

[zenith cedar]

In the AOE Priority guide, I see
4: Maintain Rupture on up to 5 targets for Scent of Blood

This is implying I should be fokking and applying ruptures to the pack? Is that actualyl BIS vs blasting envenoms into Caustic? Assuming there is some pack that lasts longer than a typical garrote/rupture opener so > 1m or so

[gilded oasis]

same reason some people murder and some don't, I suppose

[vale shore]

only when your tank is being a prick and not letting you restealth

[bleak spoke]

well yeah, you pressed sprint, what's the big deal

[spice spire]

Nah dog I’m finally 621 instead of some dog ass 602/615

[balmy condor]

in sustained aoe yes

[glacial venture]

Hello ass good or is it ass?

[vale shore]

ass is dom, sub is sub

[bleak spoke]

ass pretty good rn

[drowsy hatch]

Run for cover someone complained about not restealthing

[warped jackal]

that escalted fast 😂

[zenith cedar]

Yeah okay, makes sense, so we're talking 45 seconds or so post-opener

[balmy condor]

send feet

[balmy condor]

yeh

[simple yoke]

It doesn't ensue carple tunnel like outlaw so insta win really

[glacial venture]

Send nuggies

[bleak spoke]

ptr sims are a crime of passion!

[glacial venture]

actually nvm keep those

[violet bay]

@balmy condor have you thought about releasing a list of spells etc that can be cloaked in m+? Would be awesome 🙂

[balmy condor]

my eyes glazed over until it was off my screen

[cerulean walrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1292477218462634115/vlc_2024-10-06_08-22-07.gif

[balmy condor]

we tried that and it was a huge pain in the ass to maintain and the community was no help in doing so

so not keen on trying it again

[vale shore]

I assumed if it was magic, cloak would work

[warped jackal]

man i am new to rogue and i didnt understand anything from the Pin XD hahahhahaha

[simple yoke]

Just don't vanaish 2-3 packs before boss, but use it for free any other time, I do not understand

[bronze pike]

he microwaves those

[violet bay]

Thats to bad but i repect it 👌

[bronze pike]

u dont want them

[glacial venture]

.

[zenith cedar]

@balmy condor i love your Plater big debuff settings, however I use a different profile for M+. How can I easily port those specific debuff settings over to my existing profile (Jundie's)

[balmy condor]

what about when I microwave a frozen egg

[fallen arch]

Bring back the book of shadows yes

That was what it was called right

[serene wyvern]

dumb question...which of those trinket should i pair with the grim batol one?

[glacial venture]

Microwave dn||uggies||

[balmy condor]

rip the mod/script out

[tall atlas]

alch chaos vs crit?

[vast loom]

[bronze pike]

me on my way to your house to beat u

[balmy condor]

whichever sims higher

[zenith cedar]

let me give it a go

[quaint hull]

just sim it man

[worn tinsel]

@balmy condor Are you Charlie Day, don't ban me

[drowsy hatch]

I cant see a world where the 639 ara kara isnt better tbf

[balmy condor]

alch

[bleak spoke]

sim it, but probably gonna be the much higher ilevel egg

[balmy condor]

idk who that is

[serene wyvern]

on sims ara kara one is higher, but idk

[zenith cedar]

Is Dungeon Slice pretty well modeled for us? I know for some classes it's not recommended as a source of truth

[balmy condor]

oh this guy again

[serene wyvern]

i saw a lot of ppl playing with the crystal

[balmy condor]

yes, we use dungeonslice

[tall atlas]

charlieisocoollike?

[balmy condor]

and it sucks but it's the best we have

[worn tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/food-spag-yummy-gif-26394921

[tall atlas]

is he not a she now?

[drowsy hatch]

Crystal is easier to farm

[balmy condor]

this is like the third time someone said I look like charlie day

[past bobcat]

Is there any benefit to using a 1 hander in off hand for PvP

[balmy condor]

and I keep forgetting who it is

[bleak spoke]

they are both proc trinkets, performance will vary a bit on luck, but both are consistent enough that over the course of a dungeon you'll likely get expected relative value etc

[worn tinsel]

Charlie Kelly, Always sunny in Philadelphia actor, you look like that guy.

[balmy condor]

[Report]

[tall atlas]

ty google

[bleak spoke]

[Report]

[robust jasper]

in aoe as assa since most builds i see run 1 shiv charge, do we shiv for start of kingsbane or end?

[glacial venture]

As opposed to what?

[balmy condor]

end

[drowsy hatch]

Always the end

[bleak spoke]

cannot mutilate without daggers

[balmy condor]

wellllllllllllll

i wouldn't say "always" but yeh

[gilded oasis]

maybe no hander?

[drowsy hatch]

Usually the end

[balmy condor]

basically always

I'm scarred from #tc-research

people rediscovering edge cases

[drowsy hatch]

Accomodating the edge cases just makes your brain hurt

[gilded oasis]

wanna see my edge case?

[bleak spoke]

so maybe if you're like spinning a flag or something, possibly, but while i'm not the best pvper, i think not being able to cast mutilate is very bad

[balmy condor]

it's always like that though

half the lines in the sim are just edge case handling

[cerulean walrus]

[Report]

[bleak spoke]

LOL

fks sakes

[balmy condor]

and then people go "why does it do this"

cause no one does it

and then I get rid of it cause it's pointless minmax

[bleak spoke]

duck for cover someone's speccing fatebound

[balmy condor]

and then someone goes "hey I found this gain"

[bronze pike]

you wanna know who else is a edge case

[glacial venture]

Whispyr

[balmy condor]

and it gets added back

woli

[bronze pike]

https://tenor.com/view/regular-show-my-mom-shirt-swing-trash-talk-bye-gif-5037821

[glacial venture]

Same

Such same

[gilded oasis]

QUAKE?

[bronze pike]

like outlaws entire pin of .2% gains

[cerulean walrus]

He’s an edging case

[bronze pike]

from degen rules?

[glacial venture]

Im being asked to add a special case for the second sacred weapon
In case you want to cast it during bloodlust
In multi actor sims

[balmy condor]

I'm honestly gonna remove CT single target at this point I think

legit everyone I've seen mention it go "why my sim do that"

[kindred hinge]

Was about to say the same, 2 years ago the Outlaw disc was either you min max 0.05% or you are the worse player ever born. Here is like chill press button

[gilded oasis]

I miss that guy quake, shame what happend to him. Rip bozo. pour one out for our homie

[bronze pike]

yes i will surely do that

[bleak spoke]

tbh it's secretly a bigger gain because people trying to do that on tredova will accidentally hit some add spawns and get a lot of extra dmg

[bronze pike]

for a .5% gain

[cerulean walrus]

Whispyr don’t know this but I’m mewing and looksmaxing while I stir up a debate about tea change, restealths, and without a trace.

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[balmy condor]

okay respectfully do you read

[bleak spoke]

no

[balmy condor]

ok

checks out

[bleak spoke]

which is why i cast ct in single target at all times

[balmy condor]

what I say

what I get pinged with

nice

top kekking

[cerulean walrus]

Yeah bro it’s a single target add

Duh

[drowsy hatch]

ok but can you prove CT is better with multiple targets

[bleak spoke]

okay that boss is mostly single

[gilded oasis]

same

[bleak spoke]

like i'm trying to help you understand

what people think like

they walk up to that thing

they're like I'M GONNA PUMP ON THIS

[bronze pike]

big .4% gain

[bleak spoke]

and forget the biggest gain is actually just to press ct when the adds spawn

[bronze pike]

huge

need that fr

[bleak spoke]

but if they remember that they should be doing something with ct in single

it will help them despite them not paying attention in the encounter

or thinking about what actually happens in an encounter

that's what i mean by accidentally

[balmy condor]

brother if they aren't pressing when adds are up how do you fathom I could get it through their impermeable noodle brain that they should be pressing it in single target

[drowsy hatch]

Yeah just seems like a brain check for people to use their buttons

[errant mauve]

Ct in ST? I thought it was a minor gain after ctw priced

Procced

[balmy condor]

it is

well

after ctw procced

and consumed

and it crit

and you get momentum

[bronze pike]

[balmy condor]

but close enough

[cerulean walrus]

[bronze pike]

people dont like hitting adds on worm boss

ive discovered yesterday

[errant mauve]

Lol yea yea yea the other stuff was an implied task

[novel star]

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[grizzled geyser]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[bleak spoke]

also i suspect it's not a loss if you can't get into melee of a boss

[bronze pike]

half a time on my mists 6 and it ended on a depleat cause worm boss

[cerulean walrus]

CT single target flow chart is a banger

[balmy condor]

[cerulean walrus]

Might make a chart of it tbh

[bleak spoke]

sometimes tanks do be tanking

[balmy condor]

in what world are you off a boss long enough to justify a CT to avoid overcapping energy

[bleak spoke]

in the worst spot anyone can think of

[cobalt sphinx]

consumption is at 70 and 40 and lasts until the shield breaks, if you save cooldowns for the shield you can carry the group

[errant mauve]

Wait what is momentum?

[old hedge]

do you apply Crimson tempest on ST?

[bleak spoke]

funnily enough, actually sometimes on tredova, if they don't move him out of literally puddles eveyrwhere and the succ starts

you literally can't walk up

[cerulean walrus]

Only if you meet about 6 criteria at once

[bleak spoke]

god i hate mists so much actually

[dapper halo]

finally, getting rid of snd

[dapper halo]

end of an era, but, good riddance

[bleak spoke]

sure it's an "easy" key

i don't care i hated necrotic wake and tol dagor too

[simple yoke]

Real question... does SnD come off our bars?

[balmy condor]

yes

[bronze pike]

no

[drowsy hatch]

Yeah

[hallow pelican]

yes

[simple yoke]

I see no point to accidentally hit

[full coral]

yurrrr

[stray adder]

HoV pre-RP nerf was the worst pos dungeon in the game

[bronze pike]

never knew

wanna see the fucking breakdown lol

[dapper halo]

oh, whispyr, ive been asking stupid questions publicly in yt comments from him kekw

[strange python]

Nah bro

[normal mist]

LOL

[strange python]

Vortex pinnacle m+

[normal mist]

way easier to ask him here

[full coral]

im so excited to repurpose my SnD keybind

[errant mauve]

What is momentum

[hallow pelican]

Spires of ascension ... WORST EVER

[normal mist]

fucking hell dungeon

[strange python]

Even spires was better

And that’s hard

[stray adder]

Sanguine Depth = Best dungeon in the game

[strange python]

Vortex pinnacle was just

an abomination

For m+

[stray adder]

don't @ me

[bleak spoke]

i prefer to rez into a consumption after dying to soak an orb headed for the boss and then getting sacc'd out instantly by a boss with 5 stacks of the xalatath buff because ???

[normal mist]

ToP was good

[hallow pelican]

Spires wasnt even better than bloody explosive diarhea

[normal mist]

Halls of attonement was also pretty cool

[hallow pelican]

Id rather be shitting blood uncontrollably than do that dungeon

[strange python]

And bloody explosive diarrhea is better than vortex pinnacle AMEN

[bleak spoke]

i don't think spires was better

i think spires was better after you got goggles and inky black

but

mayun