assassination

[runic hinge]

Oh

Late

[subtle kiln]

Ironically play sub in keys if you want to multidot.

[balmy condor]

I enjoy caustic, I think it works, I would just enjoy it if it were 7% and not 14%

[marble hemlock]

i dont mind caustic either

i just dont get why it has TWO conditionals

3 actually

[soft shale]

yea bleed 1 poison and mut

[subtle tundra]

4 cause its only poisons that spatter

[marble hemlock]

you need poison
you need rupture
you need to mutilate

and it has a 10sec duration

[balmy condor]

?

[marble hemlock]

thats not a conditional

[soft shale]

it was actually something funny to learn for ovinax

[marble hemlock]

i mean, in theory ovinax is a cool fight where you get to multidot and play around some stuff a bit

and then you realize it doesnt fucking matter cuz warrior and fdk go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT and you just play spatter with the ST build and call it a day

[balmy condor]

you play Ct on ovi'nax tho

[marble hemlock]

i didnt

[balmy condor]

knowledge issue I guess

[marble hemlock]

i got the boss dead

you dont

[balmy condor]

we have 2 kills?

[soft shale]

i like that ct gets empowered and remains even when the others have died

so you can kinda snipe a strong one before some extra mobs die

[subtle tundra]

ct isnt multidotting though

[marble hemlock]

ye well, 2 weeks ago this wouldve been a sick burn

[subtle tundra]

you press it once

[neat sinew]

does anyone know where i can find good rogue weak auras for slice, poison reminder, and maybe some others? just started playing rogue/assasination

[marble hemlock]

i mean i cast rupture on non-boss targets exactly 3 times that fight

the first triple spider spawn in area2

cuz tanks die to that shit

and its free cuz you just get 1 cp, cast rupture, and then get sbs CP to rup > rup > rup and go back to bossy

but its still very cringe

[balmy condor]

[marble hemlock]

and since that was the only time add damage actually mattered

i didnt go CT

[soft shale]

oh i didnt think about using rupture on triple spider

[balmy condor]

well good thing CT is played for single target damage on that boss then

[marble hemlock]

why is my damage to bosses parse significnatly higher than my average damage parse then? checkmate

[balmy condor]

[marble hemlock]

can you like

[pliant remnant]

Checkmate, atheist

[marble hemlock]

just let me have this one?

[pliant remnant]

[cunning cloak]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

if I had a skardyns man

[marble hemlock]

idk

i got it 2nd run

why didnt you?

[subtle tundra]

man this tier is so sad
why is every guild on queen ansurek raiding every day of the week ADDITIONAL

[royal lantern]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[balmy condor]

I play double passive on ovi'nax and still top boss damage

[hardy dawn]

guys what's better to craft first as 636? a dagger or the wrists^

[royal lantern]

cus additonal raiddays is how you get worldranks

[mighty scroll]

between trecherous transmitter and empowering crystal anub'ikkaj of item level 619 do i get more dps loss? i was thinking to use empowering but sim tells me to use trecherous with -0.7

[royal lantern]

[balmy condor]

dagger I guess

[marble hemlock]

dagger unless you already have a good one

[hardy dawn]

i have 2 619

so average

[subtle tundra]

yea but without that we'd be beating a lot of guilds raiding more than us

[subtle kiln]

Dagger

[balmy condor]

definitely dagger

619 ain't average bud

[subtle kiln]

Wrists can sit at 619

[normal mist]

Guys i feel like i'm somewhat pumping good

[hardy dawn]

even if my wrists are 606?

[hardy dawn]

lmao

[normal mist]

+8 siege

[royal lantern]

i mean yeha sure

but wow iss time investment over anything else

[soft shale]

big d

[marble hemlock]

well thats cause you are

[balmy condor]

dagger is a huge upgrade

[hardy dawn]

yea ik

[balmy condor]

you should be using 1 on use

[hardy dawn]

ill go dagger then, cba

ty

[marble hemlock]

btw

whispyr

did someone tell you yet today that youre cute?

[balmy condor]

no but I had a chinese duo queue in my grim batol tell me to do less damage so that the tank could hold aggro

[normal mist]

LOL

[marble hemlock]

ah oke

[normal mist]

SAME THING

[marble hemlock]

well if no one told you today, there's always tomorrow, so best of luck

speaking of aggro

[balmy condor]

wait actually my gf did say I'm cute

[marble hemlock]

i love getting aggro on anub

[balmy condor]

we had a picnic earlier

I rememba

[marble hemlock]

every pull

even with tricks

[marble hemlock]

okay thats hella cute

[balmy condor]

tricks is a fake button

[mighty scroll]

okie

[balmy condor]

we're building legos

[marble hemlock]

what kind

and did you step on one?

[bronze pike]

[balmy condor]

https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/tuxedo-cat-21349

this one

[bronze pike]

Starwars legos

[marble hemlock]

oh nice

building vels cat

https://i.imgur.com/47CWpel.jpeg

[balmy condor]

https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/hokusai-the-great-wave-31208

[marble hemlock]

so kids arent allowed to build the tuxedo cat? do you need some physics degree to build it?

[balmy condor]

we did this one a couple weeks ago

[normal mist]

Did i ever tell you guys i actually enjoyed siege?

[marble hemlock]

can we demote royal?

[subtle tundra]

wait i need that

[grim jay]

rainbow six siege?

[marble hemlock]

very mindful and demure

[grim jay]

yeah decent game

[normal mist]

My dps in the first boss:

[royal lantern]

he is allready a mog master

[subtle tundra]

loser

[marble hemlock]

i mean yeah, but its still objectively an atrocious dungeon

[normal mist]

idk what you mean

i love it

last boss is pretty much free

[grim jay]

ima make your ass lose

wait

[marble hemlock]

ye, until you get oneshot if you dont have a personal up before the water debuff hits you with the initial damage

[normal mist]

just feint that shit!

[marble hemlock]

gotta play elusiveness

[subtle tundra]

yea just pre feint every cast

i fucking hate

[marble hemlock]

i mean we actually can

[subtle tundra]

m+

[marble hemlock]

its way worse

for other classes

cuz they have to pop shieldwall defensives

but they have to see if it hits them

[normal mist]

to be fair this was just a +8

[marble hemlock]

which is painful^3

i also hate

the ravagers

that pull you in

[normal mist]

YEAH

[marble hemlock]

and bananas

and running away from the ettins

and snipers just all targeting you

and onetapping you

[normal mist]

and aoe NON CLOAKABLE FEAR

[marble hemlock]

yep

[grim jay]

the one banana after stairs where every single warrior charges straight through

[marble hemlock]

and boss jumping away 24/7

well twice now

since its hp based now on 2nd boss

still cringe af

[subtle tundra]

man poptart corndog killed queen ansurek wr 20 raided 13/14 of the last days and they kill it same week as us
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa world ranks are so fake

[marble hemlock]

the bombardment is still cringe, sometimes it takes 3sec to hit between appearing and hitting, sometimes you barely have a second to dodge

[royal lantern]

i like that they decided to make them even LESS visible

[marble hemlock]

idk

[royal lantern]

2024 blizzard "difficulty" desing is great

[marble hemlock]

oh and you need a poison dispel for the dungeon still

or tank flops 24/7 before 3rd boss

[balmy condor]

what do you think of my improved world map

[marble hemlock]

idk, just overall a cringe boss

[normal mist]

a W honestly

[marble hemlock]

you missed smth

[royal lantern]

du musst münchen rauschneiden

[normal mist]

portugal, france and UK gone

[marble hemlock]

2 bits, actually

• bavaria is still there
• sweden is still there

[brittle quail]

why ?

[balmy condor]

and gibraltar

[normal mist]

You and your fancy words

[balmy condor]

cause better this way

[brittle quail]

you actually hate food

[balmy condor]

no, I love food

[marble hemlock]

why would he remove UK then

[balmy condor]

that's why I deleted england

[marble hemlock]

if he hated food

[brittle quail]

well i assumed he remove england so we couldnt say that

[marble hemlock]

whispyr wanna update my guides for me?

[brittle quail]

portugal / france have great food

[grim jay]

beans n toast enjoyer?

he wants it all to himself

[balmy condor]

they also stole all their great food from countries they colonized 500 years ago

[marble hemlock]

i mean thats like

most of western europe tbf

[brittle quail]

its not "stolen" ... its taken then improved ?

[balmy condor]

are you french

[brittle quail]

and yes most of europe is that way

[normal mist]

i totally agree caralho

[balmy condor]

I see the issue

[brittle quail]

xD

stalker

[balmy condor]

you wouldn't answer and your name is in your profile it took me all of 3 seconds

[marble hemlock]

hyjal

at least be archimonde

[subtle tundra]

if my country had a server for itself i wouldnt be on there

[balmy condor]

archimonde so france can die twice

[marble hemlock]

psure it does varas

[balmy condor]

TECH

[subtle tundra]

sylvanas?

[brittle quail]

naah hyjal is great but i'm slowly migrating to ragnaros anyway

[marble hemlock]

idk

[subtle tundra]

we dont have a RO- server

[marble hemlock]

but pmuch all the eastern european countries all have one

[subtle tundra]

we have servers with more romanians than normal

[balmy condor]

I wish romania was real

[subtle tundra]

sylvanas alliance was back then

[marble hemlock]

idk if you have like

a romanian only guild that is much better than all the others

like exposed for CZ

[subtle tundra]

yea... i used to raid with romanians only

[balmy prism]

Hmm why am I seeing rogues playing MA for rasha'nan? It seems funky to use with current timings

[subtle tundra]

they are not humans, mostly

[marble hemlock]

most of the romanians i played with were goated af tho

[brittle quail]

same

[balmy condor]

probably sims higher for them in single target

[normal mist]

There's actually a portuguese server and i would NEVER play there

[subtle tundra]

i played a key with a pug romanian and i could hear his wife yelling at him

[sharp viper]

was a mixed bag for me

[normal mist]

having the "Aggra - portuguese"

EW

[royal lantern]

never play on german servers

[subtle tundra]

and he wouldnt mute

[royal lantern]

🙂

its absolute hell

[sharp viper]

echt so

[marble hemlock]

pozoll deternitas is worse

[balmy prism]

Fair enough, I'll stick to good old IP

[marble hemlock]

way worse

[vale lantern]

@balmy condor you got this ❤️

[balmy condor]

I got what

[normal mist]

thats italian right?

[marble hemlock]

idk

it might be

i just remember it being pain

[balmy condor]

chlamydia?

[vale lantern]

oh wait your pin was from yesterday

[balmy condor]

oh

[vale lantern]

i just got to the bottom of it XD

[balmy condor]

I do got that

the pin

not chlamydia

[vale lantern]

well now you got both

sorry

[marble hemlock]

pozoll, hyjal and sanguino are banned

[balmy condor]

[marble hemlock]

and kazzak, for obvious reasons

[balmy prism]

stop bullying kazzak

[sharp viper]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-fascinating-interesting-fake-sure-gif-17503674

[balmy condor]

is kazzak ru

[balmy prism]

no

[marble hemlock]

nah

[balmy prism]

people just hate it for no good reason

but it's one of the most populated EU servers

[balmy condor]

that's reason enough for me

[marble hemlock]

but most of the iranian community plays on kazzak

[royal lantern]

ye pozo is italian

our italian leaves groups that have pozo players in them

[balmy prism]

We have fatshark

[royal lantern]

[marble hemlock]

and unfortunately they do not get to play with stable isp or electricity a lot of times

[white venture]

Kazzak = oozes toxicity

[marble hemlock]

so its pretty common for them to just dc mid-run and not return for lkike 30+ minutes

which is just not it

[subtle tundra]

yea i see kazzak i cant say shit cause id rather not have them type

[balmy prism]

I mean to be fair I'm the same with any german or french server

[marble hemlock]

based

[balmy prism]

those fkers don't speak english so it's impossible to communicate

[marble hemlock]

but ye overall you dont really notice it, until you notice it

[bronze pike]

Should we farm kazzak for timewalking bis ?

Pog fire neck

[marble hemlock]

doubt it

[brittle quail]

how can you put hyjal next to sanguino on the ban list

[quaint knoll]

Does anyone have any tips for how to pump damage on the adds in Ulgrax fight? I notice my damage really falling off there, but surely it should be getting higher

[bronze pike]

I believe in it seli

[royal lantern]

join a group that has 3 people from blackhand, and there is a 100% chance they will start typing in german to 2 people that cant speak it

every.single.time

[marble hemlock]

cause the vast majority of my experiences with people from these servers while pugging have been awful?

[balmy prism]

Save vanish going in

[brittle quail]

well sanguino i 100% agree never seen a good pu from there

[marble hemlock]

ye well

same for hyjal

archimonde is barely better

[white venture]

Anyone that says Bruh before m+ starts is a red flag as well. Or any sort of roadman chat

[brittle quail]

but i'm from hyjal and plenty of friends too were not all that bad

or at least we try not to be

[marble hemlock]

never said all people from those servers are bad

its a numbers game

i know plenty of german players who are kings

[royal lantern]

people that play m+ are a red flag

[marble hemlock]

i still aint inviting somebody from blackmoore, thrall or eredar

[balmy prism]

Wildi is the outlier

[marble hemlock]

(and im german)

[brittle quail]

fair enough

[white venture]

😂😂 I definitely have one then

[soft shale]

wait until you see the spanish fauna

[brittle quail]

from which server are you inviting people then ? list seems shorter that way x)

[marble hemlock]

all the others

[soft shale]

i will always manage to be wrong still

[marble hemlock]

obviously

[soft shale]

all my 12 and 13 have been bricked last times

im just a bad judge

[balmy prism]

I'm not even bothering doing 12s or 13s anymore in pugs

it's just a recipe for disaster

[marble hemlock]

ye sanguino is autoban

[normal mist]

Oh yeah im not inviting sanguino or ragnaros either

[brittle quail]

sanguino definitely never again

[soft shale]

sanguino zul jin minahonda exodar

[marble hemlock]

ragnaros isnt spanish tho

[soft shale]

there are more but those are even rarer

[marble hemlock]

well, theres one that isnt

[brittle quail]

ragnaros is just a really big en server

[soft shale]

no all of those are spanish

[marble hemlock]

ragnaros was majority danish for a long time

[soft shale]

there is the eluse shen dralar

but it is an rp server so rare to see people in m+ from there

[marble hemlock]

alakir

never seen anybody from that server other than halcyon players. rip that guild

[soft shale]

likely some of these you have never heard of

[brittle quail]

xD

most of them i've never heard of

[soft shale]

for good reasons

[pastel crow]

i just took up playing Rogue after playing tanks for some years, and could someone explain this to me?
Why are they using garrote 2x times in the opener? thought you should never overwrite or snap existing bleed so early

[soft shale]

read what Indiscriminate carnage does

[pastel crow]

Thank you!

[soft shale]

it is big for m+

[normal mist]

Usually sims are made thinking about myth track gear

[sour oasis]

That’s qo truuue

[normal mist]

so hero track gear is whatever

just sim stuff and thats it

[grizzled fulcrum]

Lol i avoid kazzak and sanguinos on keys above 12

[upper scroll]

Is crafting everforged dagger still worth 636?

Or rather go for wrist > waist

[normal mist]

raidbots.com

[sour oasis]

For sure

[cobalt sphinx]

it is way better than 626

wrist waist is a bis list meme

[sour oasis]

Ilvl Weapon MH > everything

[grizzled fulcrum]

Your mainhand is the biggest upgrade so i would craft it

[upper scroll]

kk tyvm

[blazing pumice]

the big brain play would have been to craft and recraft so you didn't have to upgrade those daggers

[normal mist]

Yeah thats giga brain if you have another myth dagger

[upper scroll]

yeah I wish

[normal mist]

I got the rare fistweapon so i insta got both daggers to 626 only upgrading one

[upper scroll]

Is this troll lmao?

[normal mist]

yeah

[upper scroll]

Best dagger in offhand

[normal mist]

should be MH

[upper scroll]

I see ty

yeah hahaha

was confused

[normal mist]

I'm testing a patchwerk sim where i either craft 636 MH OR upgrade the items i have with 90 crests

just to see the difference

[sacred parcel]

[fair wharf]

!lag

[prisma monolith]

Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.

You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end

[normal mist]

?

[past panther]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[hard garnet]

?

[normal mist]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dQJDNHvP7FGPnwXrkD1jcu
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pNgPk1vvFaeDBfU7tSHQEB

dagger bigger upgrade

[upper scroll]

So, what would you recommend crafting as 2nd item?

My wrist are still pretty bad

got enough for 636

This would be the go to embalishment right?

[normal mist]

depends

you can either go 2x dawnthread or ascension + parch

IF i were you, i'd just craft a neck and wrists, but obviously you can try and sim

I'm atm with boots/belt/ring/neck 619, and next week 636 dagger

[lapis lantern]

how hard we will get nerfed?

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[normal mist]

what nerf

[balmy condor]

That wasn’t the question

He asked how hard

[balmy condor]

Just make some shit up

[normal mist]

oh

[lapis lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[normal mist]

let me think

Very

we gonna be hard nerfed

[balmy condor]

Good good

[normal mist]

back to the ground

[balmy condor]

How many %

[normal mist]

exactly 7.13%

[balmy condor]

Damn that’s crazy

[normal mist]

after my imaginary sims

[balmy condor]

Royal since you know the future

[normal mist]

pasta

[balmy condor]

What am I eating tomorrow

[upper scroll]

Ah tyty

[normal mist]

AHAHHAHAHA

[balmy condor]

Oh shit

[normal mist]

AHHAHAAHHAHAAH

[balmy condor]

He’s good

[normal mist]

HAHAAHHAHAAHHAHAHAh

im dying

[upper scroll]

Yeah I just crafted wep

[normal mist]

xDDDD

[upper scroll]

So guess I’ll go with wrist next

[balmy condor]

7.13% pasta

[normal mist]

nerfed pasta

[balmy condor]

Let’s fucking go

[upper scroll]

+parch

[lapis lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/sweat-down-my-cheek-bead-nervous-hot-gif-20243917

i need to meditate over the fact, that i will eat some nerfs

[primal burrow]

How an "assassin" who should obviously do the best single target of the game lore speaking be nerfed ? Oh well, forgot blizzard mentality in the equation

[soft shale]

dont worry first they will have to nerf enha ç

like 4 times

shits doing 2.1m dps in ptr

[lapis lantern]

^^

[pseudo cosmos]

There’s no way we get nerfed instantly being good for 5 seconds

[lapis lantern]

we will get fcked in the 4$$ my friend

xD

[normal mist]

Man

thats honestly so dumb

[autumn remnant]

ok but gameplay wise, how is assa in .5

[autumn remnant]

the ppl that tried it, did they like it or

[autumn remnant]

ptr

[normal mist]

liking it is subjective

[autumn remnant]

ik it is, but good to see some opinions

[lapis lantern]

jesus give the man your opinion

[autumn remnant]

cuz ppl mostly talk about numbers

[normal mist]

because thats all people care about for some reason

spec feels amazing to play but numbers are somewhat meh? SHIT SPEC

[autumn remnant]

I read in the pin, smthing about the speed of assa going up

[normal mist]

yep

[autumn remnant]

we get morr apm?

[normal mist]

we getting rid of VV

[autumn remnant]

more*

[normal mist]

yes

[autumn remnant]

W

[normal mist]

actually i enjoyed this patch of VV but i grew tired of it

i wanna spam more

(talking about raid ofc)

[wet dagger]

We did it lads

49 runs

And I still had to rely on someone else to loot it

[lapis lantern]

gz

[normal mist]

Give that guy a kiss

or if it is a girl, a hug

[grim jay]

you probably didnt select it for mainhand

[fair wharf]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[shell ivy]

Is the brd raid interesting to do?

Or just like alt kinda thing

I’m curious about the mechs

[grim jay]

if it interests you

its interesting for you

https://tenor.com/view/ahh-stare-kill-bill-beard-eyebrows-gif-3481240

[tacit otter]

Does anyone have a cloak wa for kyveza on the last explosion of the intermission?

[upper echo]

what talents do you guys use at the silken court?

i know there is a hybrid cleave/st build, but can't find it

[mellow roost]

Hey guys! I've been noticing something about how Rupture is still up and there is still duration left, but scent of blood stacks are already missing? I notice this specially on single target. Does anyone else came across this and could give me any insight?

[keen nacelle]

Is there a new opener with master assasin speced?

[brittle quail]

same as improved garrote

[modest nexus]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[rigid tartan]

is Kingsbane double dipping Lethality currently in sims?

[queen egret]

What do you guys think will be cutoff at the end of the season?

for m+

[rigid tartan]

that's not the question

[normal mist]

its in the pins

[rigid tartan]

double lethality is currently simming worse in Sims than Resounding Clarity. So im wondering if sims reflect what he is talking about for next patch

its not

[forest nacelle]

Resounding clarity is being replaced

i thought

[normal mist]

yeah

[rigid tartan]

yeah but im asking for right now

[normal mist]

right now isnt .5

i believe the double dipping is a .5 change

[rigid tartan]

thanks for clarifying guys

[marble hemlock]

nah psure its been doubledipping since dragonflight already

could be wrong tho

[royal lantern]

seli

give nova a hi from me

[minor dagger]

!lag

[prisma monolith]

Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.

You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end

[verbal blaze]

I wonder if any of the BRD trinkets are just gonna be OP randomly

imagine if HOJ is OP

[sacred schooner]

for outlaw maybe :x doubt for assa

[surreal oar]

any good soul to help me out optimizing my dps/analyzing logs in m+ Im a bit lost in rotation and damage output ?

[pastel crow]

Whats th best way gearing a new alt if you cant get into keys?

[normal mist]

delves

[surreal oar]

delves and lfr

[pastel crow]

thanks!

[normal mist]

try running +8 delves, brann healer

play slowly if you lack the gear

[surreal oar]

upgrade your gear to be around 590-600 then you're good to go

[brittle quail]

3

[pastel crow]

Which combat/utility curio?

[normal mist]

let me check what i usualy use

[pastel crow]

Thanks for the help 🙂

[brittle quail]

.0*+
-1C https://fr.turtlebeach.com/products/stealth-pro-headset?Platform=Xbox0

[static glacier]

Clarify what you mean by double dipping

[normal mist]

?

[lyric oyster]

today on kyveza i learned that kingsbane can get parried 🙂

[normal mist]

i only run this

be sure to walk over the healing potions on the ground

[pastel crow]

Thank you!

[normal mist]

Learning how to delve might be hard as a rogue, specially in the beggining

[royal lantern]

thats cool, but you are not interesting

[normal mist]

hehehehe

[normal mist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4na2opArGY

but can you be this cool

[forest nacelle]

bruh that anime is nutty

[normal mist]

i'm loving it so far

I'm also watching vinland saga and onepiece at the same time

[forest nacelle]

im caught up with one piece

im watching overlord atm

[normal mist]

i'm starting wano arc atm

[forest nacelle]

its great

[jaunty kayak]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling wax:

• Can be pickpocketed from kobolds in e.g. The Ringing Deeps. (needs The Final Candle questline completed.)
• Only use it on one weapon. (does not stack)

[normal mist]

overlord i saw the first 2 season iirc

[forest nacelle]

i just started the 2n season

2nd*

[jaunty kayak]

wax on ST or MT?

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-grandpa-gif-14729663161359511049

[forest nacelle]

took my 6 months from start to 1010

[normal mist]

jesus

i've been watching it on and off

[forest nacelle]

i binged most of it too

[normal mist]

for like 2 years

[forest nacelle]

xD

[royal lantern]

man i watched like, 3 anime in my entire life

im pure

[normal mist]

what kind of anime did you enjoy the most?

[forest nacelle]

my fav is still Mob 100

Dan da Dan gives those vibes

[rain wraith]

Dragon ball z and naruto. Only ones ive ever cared about

[normal mist]

First seasons of SaO were good.
Vinland has been amazing.
OP is OP.
I love some romcoms too like "My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU "

[subtle tundra]

holy based

[stark kraken]

!bis

[prisma monolith]

BiS lists are not helpful towards gearing yourself. In order for BiS items to truly be BiS, all items in the list have to be obtained at that level exactly, or else it doesn't make sense. Missing a socket for example would shift your stats slightly. You should always compare your gear through top gear or droptimizer instead.

Pre-raid or Pre-season BiS is especially not helpful, and we do not have any of them. These are absolute meaningless bait for gear that you will be replacing the moment the season comes out. Use Top Gear/Droptimizer to compare against your character

[normal mist]

I haven't seen mob still :C

i saw onepunch tho

[subtle tundra]

its a better one punch man dont care

[modest nexus]

!prepull

[normal mist]

I've been wanting to watch mob100 for a while, but there are so MANY animes

[mellow roost]

So when playing Assassination Rogue with the Scent of Blood talent, after you pop Deathmark cooldown on a target with Rupture, when the deathmark debuff expires it also removes the 4 Scent of Blood stacks you gained from that target. This doesn’t seem to be a intended behaviour but a bug instead.

Feel free to report it in game!

[pastel onyx]

[subtle tundra]

yes, but there arent that many good animes

[normal mist]

Yeah, as i said above, i'm watching like 3/4 atm :3

[fading sonnet]

is there a WA for when my poisons aren't applied? I keep forgetting at start of dungeons

[subtle tundra]

if you ignore anime slop, thats basically 95% of anime

[blazing pumice]

@fading sonnet basically all the packs have it

[normal mist]

oh lol true

[blazing pumice]

you might just need to move the wa to the centre and make it big

[worldly sail]

i was wondering why my scent of blood stack was gone sometimes in bossfights

makes sense

[subtle tundra]

gonna heck it

fcuk

[mellow roost]

I've been struggling with this for days trynna figure out where my stacks go.

[spring moat]

any clickable weak aura for weapon oils?.. ive got a poison one already

[pastel onyx]

did u watch bebop or champloo

love soundtracks

from them

[normal mist]

I haven't no!

[subtle tundra]

youre right

you need to reapply rupture

[halcyon grail]

https://tenor.com/view/samurai-champloo-champloo-jin-battlecry-gif-19719666

[subtle tundra]

to regain the stacks

woaaah

[mellow roost]

Which sucks! because the second rupture won't be as strong most of the times

[subtle tundra]

wat

uh there is nothing to specifically buff a first rupture

everything is dynamic

[glacial crypt]

What's happening

[subtle tundra]

theres a small bug

[mellow roost]

Is it? doesn't it apply based on stats and such

[subtle tundra]

no snapshotting is not a thing

[glacial crypt]

Not anymore ):

[subtle tundra]

its all based on your current stats

[glacial crypt]

Old tech

[subtle tundra]

when you lose the stats the damage drops

when you gain the stats the damage increases

[mellow roost]

Right, I just tested it out now you're absolutely right

But still sucks to waste a refresh on rupture with 18 secs left

[subtle tundra]

you dont

its a loss to do that

99%

you just lose a bit of agi for 9 seconds

not a game changer

and refresh in pandemic

the bug should still be reported

[mellow roost]

Yea shouldn't be a huge game changer, still a annoying as hell bug specially while i was trynna figure out what stole my stacks 😂

[dusty zenith]

Is master assassin gonna be viable now that it’s changing to 6 seconds

[subtle tundra]

it is played in single target

[undone eagle]

Isnt this forbiddenly op?

12k primary 💀

[karmic crystal]

It’s really strong compared to hero track trinkets but loses out to mythic track

[blazing pumice]

it's about the same as skardyns

[bitter apex]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[bitter apex]

!tricks

[prisma monolith]

Smart tricks WA on tank, this require the following macro:

/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 1
/click SmartMisdirect LeftButton 0

[wind portal]

i noticed the apl will use ambush in the opener even if there is a darkest night buff up, but the guide says to skip ambush in that case. does it matter either way?

[normal mist]

if you have DN, garrote

or rupture, depending on your Cps

[lost wolf]

hey fellow rogues, quick question, if I'm at 618 w/ 2 hero daggers at 626, does it make sense to upgrade the main weapon to 639 w/ crests or should I just save them to invest into upgrading other gear?

[normal mist]

you can actually sim this

[lost wolf]

oh can you?

[normal mist]

i simmed using 90 crests to craft a dagger VS using those 90 crests to upgrade my already equiped gear

this was the result:

#assassination message

[lost wolf]

awesome ok, thank you! dagger it is

[tawny bloom]

is clear the witnesses bugged? its supposed to increase my dmg of fok by ~115k but actually increases it by 20k?

[spice surge]

It does increase the damage of fok

It adds an extra hit

[tawny bloom]

ah indeed its not shown as fok dmg but instead as its own source

nvm then

[velvet bridge]

is this ok for my overall dmg on m+ ?

[normal mist]

there

are some many factors

in that equation

Depends on the dungeon, key level, pulls

build

ilvl

[blazing pumice]

caustic is pretty low

[velvet bridge]

i'm talking about the source of dmg, like if rcaustic should be higher or not

[normal mist]

depends

on

the

key

level

If mobs die before you're able to caustic

its normal that caustic is low

[velvet bridge]

yea ok

[normal mist]

i'll give you my latest m+ that was a siege +8

Mobs lived long enough for me to pump caustic

[velvet bridge]

yea it was a +3 cot so they were dying pretty fast

[normal mist]

You understand now why the situation you're in makes a lot of variables move

that's why linking a details breakdown isn't always the best approach.

[velvet bridge]

sure

[normal mist]

I'd probably have even more caustic dmg if this was a fortified week

and things lived for even longer

Yo sap

[rotund oak]

idk,my brain is rotting every time i que keys on my rogue

[normal mist]

rate my human

[rotund oak]

yo my man

OH MY GOD

[normal mist]

I swear she has this "come at me bitch" face

[rotund oak]

yup,everything i could ever dream for in this game

10/10

[limber lion]

Darkest Night is currently bugged where you cannot consume marks if you have it active. We used Ambush previously to apply the mark early and then consume the DN later

[heavy canopy]

I’m using Whispyr’s WA and have an issue with it - when I change talents and pick CT for example, one of the other big icons gets “demoted” to the second line, which screws up the order that I was used to. Is there a way to make it static instead of dynamic, maybe the icon simply goes grey when not spec’ed into?

[proven wren]

Any good m+ talents for assa?

[limber lion]

You can still do that in single target, but in Mythic+ it's advised to just garrote instead and use the DN proc to get the mark up

[normal mist]

!guides @proven wren

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[limber lion]

Many

[rotund oak]

no all suck,dont talent into anything,and those guides lie

[limber lion]

Yes it is possible, but you'd have to do that manually for all of the talents that get swapped around.

You'd have to change the load conditions for each as well as adding a trigger/condition combo for every one of them

[crystal delta]

the big question is - will it be worth to change to dracthyr ?

[normal mist]

if you feel like it

[crystal delta]

xD

[normal mist]

I rather look good

[limber lion]

I have personally just changed the order to basically see the stuff that I'm always spec'd into at the top and the stuff that gets shuffled around at the bottom

[normal mist]

than play for racials

but i'm a casual

[pseudo cosmos]

human>rest

[heavy canopy]

Yeah, I feared it would require manually going through each one. I also don’t like SnD showing up there at all. I guess this is a good time to try and make my own set of WA’s! Always fun learning new things 😄

[rotund oak]

bro wants to minmax playing a dragon @royal lantern has something to say

[crystal delta]

but racials from drac bring good cc`s for m+

[rotund oak]

based and true and real Humans >all

[normal mist]

IF dracthyr had both AoE CC's it has now, it would be really good

[limber lion]

Yeah with the new patch coming in a few days, there is no need to track Slice and Dice whatsoever anymore.

[normal mist]

but it does not

only gust

[limber lion]

You can just delete the Slice weakaura entirely soon

[heavy canopy]

My rogue’s called Reborn and is undead. That name doesn’t really fit with a lot of other races😅

[heavy canopy]

Yesss, can’t wait for that!!

[wind portal]

thanks for the explaination!

[limber lion]

Np

[warm lantern]

anyone has a nice aura for applying poisions?

[violet bay]

Is there any list for wich spells etc we can vanish/cloak for dungeons? Trying to learn , thanks

[limber lion]

Most weakaura packs have some sort of a weakaura for that. Just rip one from them

Or google it, there's plenty standalones as well

!wa here's some packs

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[limber lion]

Not really. You just gotta learn by doing and playing more and trying stuff out.

[autumn flower]

Remember that there was a spreadsheet going around last xpac but not found anything on this xpac,,

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-climbs-out-of-couch-im-ready-gif-21355113

[violet bay]

Thats to bad , list like that would be very helpfull, i know about allot of things but im sure theres many more i have no clue off

[keen spruce]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[normal mist]

You can just feelscraft it

"looks like magic? cloak"

The only thing this season i HATE

is not being able to cloak the SoBoralus big troll AoE fear

[violet bay]

Well glad im an undead there

[royal lantern]

its a etin

not a troll

🤓

[normal mist]

No u

:3

oh fuck a breach

https://tenor.com/view/run-running-running-away-gif-26050957

[royal lantern]

:33

[brittle quail]

first time i took it while cloak i was like "no way thats intended "

turns out it is

and its shit

[sleek spear]

I just crafted a 636 dagger. Should I just put ascension on it? I was using a 610 previously. Mainly do M+ and weekly heroic raids

[dark merlin]

In single target, when should you vanish?

[brittle quail]

depends do you have improved garrote?

if no : you don't
if yes : you do to get improved garrote uptime during DM

[normal mist]

Depends

if you want 2x dawnthread or ascension

Being higher ilvl does not increase the power of the emb

[sleek spear]

Do I lose alot of DPS by using ascension in M+?

Don't have the luxury of swapping gear back and forth for raiding. Too poor 😦

Wanna use 1 set of gear for both content

[brittle quail]

they dont really matter just use some

its like 0.3% dif depending on witch content your running

[normal mist]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[normal mist]

read above

[brittle quail]

do you prefer to be perfect in raid or m+ is more the question

[sleek spear]

Oh thanks! Guess it doesn't really matter then haha

0.3% is quite negligible

[brittle quail]

not quite exact number but its less than 1 % no matter what

[wheat tiger]

Is there any BlackRock raid items that could be BIS? Trinkets maybe? I see heroic last boss can drop 619 Hero.

[brittle quail]

so yeah just pick what you prefer

trinket meh

[sleek spear]

As long as I'm mostly top DPS for M+ and top 5 for raids I'm a happy rogue

[brittle quail]

maybe neck from kazzak but its probably an outlaw thing

[normal mist]

BiS = myth gear

[keen spruce]

where is the crafting order person?

[wheat tiger]

I figured

Too bad blizzard didn’t bump it a little more to encourage people to do it.

[normal mist]

why would they

hero gear already goes up to 626

[wheat tiger]

In sure they spent a lot of time on it I dunno

[normal mist]

its supposed to be a fun new activity

[wheat tiger]

I suppose

[normal mist]

they can't just create another random mythic raid

[wheat tiger]

Why not

[normal mist]

because this goes away in 2/3months

[wheat tiger]

That’s fair

[normal mist]

and there are still guild progging nerub'ar

[brittle quail]

top in m+ is pretty easy as long as your not premade playing for a bommkin but top 5 in raid might be difficult or impossible on some bosses and embellish doesnt matter in either case x)

[keen spruce]

gais

where is the crafting orders?

[normal mist]

left of the AH

sorry

right

[keen spruce]

oh i walked right passed them

ty

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[slate crown]

It's left of the AH if you're coming out of the AH

[normal mist]

a matter of perpective indeed

[fair wharf]

so we take crimson tempest now for silken court or what

is there a tech im missing

[balmy prism]

logs say no

[silver copper]

Is it worth Crafting the Everforged Stabber as a main dagger. but without embelishment

[novel star]

it was always an option

depends on strat i think

if the bosses are stacked enough it can be good cus ct on 2 is a gain

but

u kinda take an L in intermissions

[fair wharf]

i see, ty

[keen spruce]

hmm does seem pretty gud

DS is weird tho

[subtle tundra]

holy dragonflight numbers

what am i looking at

[keen spruce]

i'm 567 ilvl

[subtle tundra]

then why ask

play the game

[keen spruce]

I didn't ask anything

[subtle tundra]

then why mention

[keen spruce]

why u so cranky all the time

[subtle tundra]

idk you just posted a nothing burger

so i responded with nothing burger

[heavy canopy]

What’s the strategy in fights with two bosses, like Silken Court? Do I swap between them or focus one? How do you guys keep track of bleeds on both?

[novel star]

well u know how u look at nameplates to see ur bleeds

u do that but on two plates instead of one

insane tech

[quartz cobalt]

my sim is using crimson tempest on ST as well, is that cooked or fr fr

[gloomy tusk]

i m seeing a lot of assa in ladder using dawnbreaker crystal instead of ara kara egg does anyone knows the reason?

[opaque sigil]

Dawnbreaker better for aoe

[novel star]

it is only real if you crit with fan of knives

and you only use fan of knives when you have ctw

so its

really cringe

but it is technically like a 0.3% dps gain or something

(dont fucking bother)

[quartz cobalt]

yeah fuck that ty

[late gulch]

Is the Queen tricket good for assassin ? I know wowhead ranks it highe but i dont see many run it

Got it from quest hence the question

[subtle tundra]

cause they dont have it probably

for raid its good

[gloomy tusk]

should i bother myself for the 1% haste that i m missing or whatever?

[arctic socket]

Even in m+ it isn’t terrible

[subtle tundra]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[late gulch]

So IF I only do m+ i should prob chase other trinkets:) ?

[novel star]

What?

[subtle tundra]

can you explain the thought process of your question? im curious

[arctic socket]

If you’re a m+ only chase a 639 skardyns n 639 empower crystal

[novel star]

who told you you need 7% haste

what

[subtle tundra]

probably looked at a certain streamer and saw his stats

not gonna say which streamer

[novel star]

[subtle tundra]

but imma go check i guess

[pliant remnant]

Only 6% haste????

Honestly just delete that character at that point

[humble owl]

hey mate for only m+ 2x Dawnthread or 1x Dawnthread + Blessed Weapon Grip

[arctic socket]

Dawnthread x2

[subtle tundra]

i guess you looked at a certain streamer

and saw his embelishments

[humble owl]

héhé 🙂

[subtle tundra]

and thought you should copy

holy shit iwant to be shot

hahahaha

[prime hull]

Does anyone have a good weakaura for Deathstalker's Mark/Darkest Night? I was only tracking Darkest Night and I keep forgetting to apply the mark.

[quartz cobalt]

meme or is there actually an amount of haste we should realistically have

[subtle tundra]

holy shit iwant to be shot

hahahaha

[pliant remnant]

meme

[subtle tundra]

look at this chat and it will answer you

[pliant remnant]

[novel star]

what the hell is a blessed weapon grip

[keen spruce]

yeah but u extra stinky

[novel star]

dont make that thing

[bitter horizon]

bro is getting tilted in a discord chat

big W

[subtle tundra]

i checked 3 assa streamers, they all had 5% haste

this means you cant play the spec with more than 5% haste

[bitter horizon]

im cooked

[novel star]

why

[subtle tundra]

congrats

youre now a top assa

[bitter horizon]

actually!??

thanks bro!

[subtle tundra]

yes frfr

[bitter horizon]

omg lemme Q some 13/14s

Thnx bro because of u i believe!

[subtle tundra]

hey, thats the least i could do

[humble owl]

zerocool and kush play with blessed weapon grip no ?

[novel star]

who fucking CARES

wat 2 top players picked who probably just dont give a fuck and are experimenting anyway

[subtle tundra]

want me to tell you why?

[bitter horizon]

Yes pls tell us

[subtle tundra]

cause you cant fucking put a dawnthread on a weapon

and they have crafted dagger

[bitter horizon]

omg ur so smart thanks!

didnt think about that

[subtle tundra]

yw

[keen spruce]

zerocool played with an int dagger too

[subtle tundra]

20k gold, come dornogal

[keen spruce]

doesn't mean u should craft one

[humble owl]

huummm ok

[bitter horizon]

ok!

[subtle tundra]

ascension is extremely dogshit in m+

[keen spruce]

don't pay that man for bullying you

smh

[subtle tundra]

so you put whatever else on crafted dagger

[bitter horizon]

bro icba xd

[subtle tundra]

OMG THEY WANT MY ASS

[bitter horizon]

ofc im not paying him

[rotund oak]

967 in our hearts

[subtle tundra]

WOOOAH THEY GOT MY ASS

[bitter horizon]

i think its for players who are ass

litterly

[subtle tundra]

shit

[pliant remnant]

Don't litter

[subtle tundra]

whatever, this ass will do a 13 boralas

[keen spruce]

back to legion

[bitter horizon]

gl depleting

[rotund oak]

the denial is real

[novel star]

wow man zerocool crafted 619 wrists

[subtle tundra]

im the goat for a reason

[novel star]

is this the meta?

is there secret tech?

do my embellishments give me more value at 619 iinstead of 636 or wat surely he knows some secrets

[subtle tundra]

im literally 3 steps ahead of him

[novel star]

top player clique always fucking hiding everything

its so disgusting man

[keen spruce]

[novel star]

a little noob cant get real information anywhere

[pure moth]

I applied to it..but it had the other rogue so didn't get invited

[subtle tundra]

yea well

atleast you dont get this

[marble hemlock]

i get worse in raid

cuz half the raid has some cringe food WA

[lament stump]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[cunning notch]

Do u guys believe assa Will be nerfed? Im tempted by doing either enhance or assa as an alt to my bdk

[normal mist]

🔮

[lament stump]

no

[fair wharf]

!plater

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
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Whispyr's Plater

[cunning notch]

Alright thats good. Is it a Big dps increase to be night elf? My rogue is blood elf.. kinda regret that, but dont want to pay for a race change

[tropic hull]

who care if assa will be nerfed or not. You can play other specs

[cunning notch]

I played a bit outlaw last expansion, but that shit was stressfull lol

[novel star]

no

[tropic hull]

races not matter much. Play who you want tbh

[lament stump]

meld is just good for certain fights but u should pick whatever class makes u like looking at yr character most

race *

[brisk crystal]

Someone can explain to me the craft trick pls for the daggers?

[cunning notch]

So meld Wont really increase the dps, if we Can meld to have extra stealth?

[lament stump]

its a non factor to dps

i think

[languid laurel]

I like gnome as a race, for the escape artist racial.

[lament stump]

idk about stealth question im also blood elf

but its not that deep

honestly your thinking too hard

if u like a racial and it can be on a rogue use that

[bitter horizon]

just go w/e u want

[normal mist]

you can get some restealths in the dungeon, if it works, but isnt nothing big enough to reroll

[bitter horizon]

i like night elf to just meld > restealth

[cunning notch]

To me that sounds Way better than arcane torrent lol, but yeah probably overthinking

Not even sure if i should lvl my enhance shaman or assa rogue anyway

[normal mist]

why not both

wait for next reset

and get those crispy extra exp %

[cunning notch]

Well idk, not enough time

And already have my bdk lol

But i want to play meta class if dps, so i will have higher chance to get into keys lol(but still a class i want to play ofc)

[slim vapor]

amp or deadly poison 1st with 2 poisons?

[visual sun]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[subtle tundra]

you just said you have bdk

[honest moon]

whos plater is most poggers

[spice surge]

!poison

[prisma monolith]

You should always be using poisons you talent into, which means the following:

Lethals:

• Deadly always + Amplifying if you're talented into it with DTB, Instant only as a final option
  Non-Lethals:
• Atrophic/Numbing, crippling if you're talented into DTB

Wound poison damage in PvE is atrocious and should never be used

[subtle tundra]

means you have frost dk

[cunning notch]

I do yeah?

[limber lion]

I prefer mine :)

[cunning notch]

Not sure if i want to play Frost haha

[limber lion]

Everyone has their preferences, the features are pretty similar

[spice surge]

Seems like an entirely unbiased opinion

[limber lion]

absolutely

[bitter horizon]

i use default nameplates

W

[limber lion]

Seek help

[spice surge]

Default

[tall atlas]

Oh no

Also is there a haste value that we are aiming for at all

[honest moon]

weirdly enough im alrdy using it

its poggers sir

[tall atlas]

I think I remember like 10% somewhere

[limber lion]

Very nice

[limber lion]

No

[limber lion]

You remember incorrectly

[tall atlas]

Cool

[limber lion]

There has never ever been a haste value we aim for

Ever

[tall atlas]

Thank you

[limber lion]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[honest moon]

whats our mastery cap cev

[tall atlas]

Alright Damn chill son

[bitter horizon]

just go 20% and ur good

[limber lion]

No caps

[honest moon]

aight

[limber lion]

Go ham if you want

[normal mist]

there are no caps

just get ilvl

and sim

[bitter horizon]

20% haste and 50% crit

[limber lion]

I prefer 69% on everything

[bitter horizon]

true

[tall atlas]

How much relative ilvl does a socket add

[blazing jewel]

write that down

[tight kernel]

The one you choose

[lament stump]

(whispyrs just tweak it slightly )