assassination

[zenith cedar]

not really sure there are many non-magic fears in the game

[wispy epoch]

I’d never waste my cloak

[zenith cedar]

that one is definitely an outlier

[bronze pike]

[wispy epoch]

I gave up fury warrior to be here

[final star]

All blizzard needs to do

and hear me out

[wispy epoch]

I hope you’re all happy

[wispy epoch]

Now I just play prot and this

[zenith cedar]

wait so this extended cloak talent is bugged and gives damage, am i understanding that correctly

[final star]

[wispy epoch]

You don’t take it

[runic matrix]

i wish

[wispy epoch]

Is what I understand

[royal lantern]

yes

take it, go on a dmg dummy, use SnD and press mutilate a couple times

and check details

for Flensing Knives

[rotund oak]

irrelevant question but u own a bernese aight?

[zenith cedar]

quite a few top m+ players take it, not sure if for the damage or for the cloak, but its a utility choice for a reason

[rare jackal]

chyup

[royal lantern]

dmg

[subtle tundra]

da damaj

[royal lantern]

bait&switch is unquestionably stronger

like

[wispy epoch]

Bait and switch….!!!

[runic matrix]

my parents do, i (my gf dogs tbf) have greenland dogs

[royal lantern]

2sec cloak is a meme by itself

[south token]

do we use vanish when kingsbane and deathmark have 3 seconds left running?

[royal lantern]

B&S is really stupid strong

[south token]

if talented into master assassin

[wispy epoch]

If you die and find yourself saying “oh wow if only I had 2 more seconds of cloak there”

[grim jay]

In a world where sin would actually take the dps loss except for in extreme cases ye. The bug is like 1% dps for no reason

[normal mist]

No

[rotund oak]

cool stuff,im buying a new puppy next week and im thinking what to get but thx

[south token]

why not?

[subtle tundra]

cause ===--p;'

[normal mist]

We use vanish for garrote

[subtle tundra]

]]';[l;'l.p[ol;'

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

sorry

[royal lantern]

hello cat

[wispy epoch]

#off-topic

[normal mist]

This is off topic

[south token]

yeah but cant we just vanish with 3 seconds remaining on kingsbane and deathmark and then press garrote after vanishing?

[grim jay]

Tell me you are new in #assassination without telling me you are

[runic matrix]

bernese are great but they do struggle a lot in warmer/humid climates, other than that i'd say they're low effort dogs, and super good family dogs

[grim jay]

[zenith cedar]

wtf this does a ton of damage

[normal mist]

You already missed a chunk of improved garrote and delayed your cds at 2 mins mark even more

[midnight mist]

you know these aoes in the last part of mist, the new visual is exactly that, went from one of the most unclear visual in the game to something legit perfect

[grim jay]

Ovcharka!

[bronze pike]

Dog

[rotund oak]

yeah man,im living somewhere in northern greece and its the only thing that actually makes me think not buying one,dont wanna torture it here

[final star]

If only they didn't clip into the floor

[south token]

shouldnt that be very good in theory?

[normal mist]

What

[rotund oak]

its gonna be a beagle/corgi/bernese(this is unlikely) or daschund

[bronze pike]

If only mists didn’t come back

[south token]

that

[final star]

mists is fine

[runic matrix]

corgis are fun too, they're very people pleasing dogs so you can train them really well usually

[normal mist]

No

[final star]

It's fast and easy

[grim jay]

Ovcharkas are way too beautiful to pass up. Id definitely get one if I were to get a dog

[south token]

to have +30% crit on the last ticks of kingsbane

why not?

[runic matrix]

my gfs brother has one, and he is obedient

[normal mist]

Maths

Say

[bronze pike]

Mists enjoyers have cooties

[normal mist]

Bad

[bronze pike]

I don’t want cooties

[rotund oak]

looks like an old man 😂

[south token]

and how am i supposed to use vanish then?

[rotund oak]

okok skip the dog part boys,its getting rly OT

[bronze pike]

She’s oldge

[final star]

empowered garrote during the entire DM + 30% crit when you press it is worth far far more than the 30% crit at the end

[royal lantern]

kingsbane is not most your dmg anymore + you waste a talent point that says "MAYBE this 1 ability does more dmg every 2min"

which is kinds meh

[bronze pike]

This after she got shaved

[normal mist]

When your first garrote is at like 6sec mark and then you wait for vanish to come up again to vanish garr dm

[midnight mist]

ye.. its better th o!

[bronze pike]

Her winter coat growing

[final star]

for sure

[rotund oak]

ah nice still a nice girl!

[midnight mist]

surely one day they fix y axis issues right

[final star]

surely

[midnight mist]

you know second boss mist

[final star]

when the arrow disappears

[midnight mist]

where if the guy is lower, in the river

[final star]

[midnight mist]

[bronze pike]

It gets hot in Vegas so we get a lot of her hair cut off

She’s more comfy like that

[grim jay]

Whole puddles disappearing on last boss is way worse

[golden loom]

seeing the same tea for mastery instead of energy conversation today just like yesterday and the day before

[rotund oak]

yup and the mesmerising buttwalk

[south token]

@royal lantern that is exactly why i am asking - feels like master assassin is really bad then?

[final star]

last boss is just terrible

[wispy epoch]

Stay away from me

[grim jay]

Its really annoying at this point

[royal lantern]

the world is a circle

[south token]

i guess improved poisons is somehow worse?

[midnight mist]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxphre3Zp8BVMoZRW0oK_l2DkZYX7tzSAT?si=GLZZtltTBVdCnaIn

[normal mist]

Most of us don't even use it

[final star]

puddles that are the same colour as the floor that can disappear into the floor and chunk you instantly for 40% of your health

[bronze pike]

Whyge

[south token]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[bronze pike]

Great dungeon

[royal lantern]

it is kinda bad rn ye, but you can sim it

[final star]

[bronze pike]

Shadowland 2 but worse

[midnight mist]

[final star]

going in that water is hard banned

[midnight mist]

xd

[south token]

i dont know about that, fuu is using it on his sims

[royal lantern]

:3

[final star]

invisible

[royal lantern]

red-green weakness btw

[final star]

like where does it start and end

[royal lantern]

thanks blizz

[bronze pike]

I’d unironically take plague fall over any returning dungeon this season

[final star]

it'll be goblin dungeons next patch right?

[wispy epoch]

What’s it like doing just as much as a ret paladin who has to only press half the buttons

[final star]

we going to the motherlode surely

[royal lantern]

it starts where my corpse is lying

[grim jay]

Id love to break the 100 plaguefall runs this time around to get the trinket then

[bronze pike]

I change my mind

I’ll take any dungeon bu5t motherload

[normal mist]

You can also check the wowheadguide for accurate information. Idk if those fuu sims are updated

[wispy epoch]

This city is only big enough for one rogue

[bronze pike]

But we’re all rogues

[final star]

master assassin is my highest ST sim 😄

but builds are so close for assa

it doesn't matter

[bronze pike]

Kk yall seem sane now

[final star]

play whatever the fuck random talent you want

[bronze pike]

So I don’t have too

https://tenor.com/view/randall-recess-snitch-gif-9625258

I sleep now

[grim jay]

You can see that they are based on the numbers, but it doesnt change the fact that all talent builds are a sim yourself thing

And it probably still uses the same vanish logic

(imp garrote for dm)

[final star]

it just vanishes for imp garrote uptime

[wispy epoch]

I use chatgpt to tell me how to play my spec

[normal mist]

[wispy epoch]

It actually gave me a pretty good prompt just now

But it also tells me to use Vendetta

[normal mist]

Stuck in the old ways

[grim jay]

Just do a DM macro

Call it Vendetta and use the icon

[wispy epoch]

Okay time to sleep

[vale lantern]

i hope the next line was "___ has been kicked from the raid"

[grim jay]

Minimally

[hexed frost]

Is running double depths enchant in keys inting?

[final star]

NO

[bronze pike]

Warrior meta

Love to see it

[grim jay]

How

[final star]

leaked screenshot of my keys

[hexed frost]

[wispy epoch]

Why would it be?

[grim jay]

Sim it

[hexed frost]

Because double radiant power should be better

Right?

[grim jay]

It most likely is

[hexed frost]

1K dps difference

Meh

[grim jay]

How is that even possible

[wispy epoch]

When did radiant become better than depths

Fuck I spent like 12k on my MH enchant

[wispy epoch]

🙂

[bronze pike]

Stitch flesh

Great dungeon

So glad

Nw is back

And I’m sure someone is gonna go “nw is good”

But nah they’re lying

[serene solar]

“nw is good”

[tawdry halo]

NW is good

For bricking keys

[bronze pike]

Pray a totem or pet isn’t infront of hook

[serene solar]

I really enjoy the entire dungeon bricking at the same spot over and over

[bronze pike]

That would be silly and funny

[wispy epoch]

Y’all are missing out on all the fun of rp servers honestly

[bronze pike]

Nah

I’m fine

I only go there to dance until some simp pays me a year of wow sub

Then gtfo until next year

[wispy epoch]

Damn bro

[grim jay]

I honestly dont mind it at all

[fallen arch]

I think its bad

[bronze pike]

Ew

[fallen arch]

Stitchflesh is dumb

[bronze pike]

Mr electric

[rotund oak]

stich got nerfed,im going in a 10 raw

[bronze pike]

Send this man to the penis exploding chamber and have his penis exploded immediately

[fallen arch]

What

[wispy epoch]

Stay away from me

Don’t go south of the 215 or we’ll have words

[grim jay]

Imo the worst dungeon is stonevault followed by siege

[bronze pike]

Stone vaults good

[wispy epoch]

SV is easy with 1-2 decurses

[bronze pike]

That entire bana segment of siege made me want to

[wispy epoch]

Hardest for me is probably city of threads

Too many ways to die

Healer has to very

Carry

[bronze pike]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-awesome-mario-twerking-gif-23644561

[midnight mist]

feels great im having fun, ty for concern

[hard garnet]

Hi all does anyone know of a good optimised plater profile which won't tank my fps?

[grim jay]

Idk like if I were an outlaw main, I couldnt even count how many times I got exploded because some other DPS thought its funny to break 3 crystals at once

[bronze pike]

I see you near by

[serene solar]

It really isnt that bad now imo

[grim jay]

Well on 12+ its kinda tight

Ngl

[serene solar]

oh im sure, I just meant 10s like he said

[novel star]

i thought nw wasn’t that bad before the changes

fun key

[rotund oak]

yeah got couple of my hommies saying 10 is a breeze now but they doing degen pushing in 13-14s so im holding a smol bag

[grim jay]

Yeah only that you can like oneshot stitch or spend 7 mins on it

Is kinda wild

[novel star]

i mean ye

but gb has a brick boss too and it’s right at the end

or had

it’s not bad now

[grim jay]

Its a whole different level if you can just pull the same Boss again

[novel star]

brick bosses are normal tho

[grim jay]

Or have to play a different game

[novel star]

you can not really just pull again after a wipe

when you’re pushing

that concept goes away entirely

[rotund oak]

stichflesh was stupid hard,not the boss itself but the rot from the aboms

[novel star]

too much time loss + if ur talking about a really fucked up boss it’s lust loss too

[grim jay]

Universally the design is still stupid tho

And on a 12 you can still time

With 1 wipe

[novel star]

depends on the wipe

stitch has a really nice release tbf

but still

[grim jay]

The release is useless if the Boss takes 3 times as long tho

And you can still die at any moment

[novel star]

Ye but idk

i liked nw i think it’s fun

just kill the boss and it’s fine

[grim jay]

Which is fine, I do aswell, but the design still is admittedly stupid and shouldnt be a thing

[fallen arch]

It’s fun as a farm key I agree

It’s horrendous as push key

[novel star]

every key has bullshit when ur pushing idk

stitch is bad but not end of the world hell bad

[rotund oak]

if its not overtuned af its fine

if u have aboms rotting the group with unhealable dmg

then its a problem

[fallen arch]

I kinda think so with current design tbh

[novel star]

wasn’t varas in here saying rashanan on a 14 was like a 6+ minute fight

[fallen arch]

If u waste lust and spears and someone makes a mistake

Its just gg

[novel star]

i think there are other problematic bosses

than just stitch lmao

[fallen arch]

Oh ye there are

But that doesnt redeem stitch

Skarmorak

[novel star]

never said stitch is good or perfect

just that

[fallen arch]

What a stupid boss, also a stupid way to spell skarmory

[novel star]

every key has bullshit brick bosses

just for different reasons

stitch is overrated

imo

[royal lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-sad-stitch-stitch-sad-sad-stitch-gif-5671323

[novel star]

stitch spears are dumb but rashanan +1minute rp flight is dumb too

and the duo boss in cot

[rotund oak]

for some reason i like dawnbreaker alot this season,got alot of ppl saying im crazy

[novel star]

and orbs affix on arakara 2nd is dumb

every dungeon is dumb

[rotund oak]

like 2nd boss its a red flag for most ppl

[fallen arch]

I dont mind dawnbreaker

[fallen arch]

They just cant dodge the goku ss3 spirit bomb

[subtle kiln]

It’s fast, not a lot of trash and mechanics are all straight forward.

[fallen arch]

Or the Samus from Super Smash attack

[novel star]

i like dawnbreaker too i just don’t like rashanan

[rotund oak]

yo i choked on that mfker as well 😂 but ive got the excuse that ive got short gnome legs and ponytails

[rotund oak]

yeah i like it tbh

couple of pulls in the church territory that are bottlenecked but whatever

[solar wyvern]

Dawnbreaker is probs my favorite key this season

Fast, fun, decent pulls, only one boss thats boring

Good stuff, stonevault is hopefully gonna be like that now that the dungeons been tuned

The puddle spam on last boss was quite annoying lol

[fallen arch]

Theater of Pain and Sanguine Depths next season

Imagine

[rotund oak]

i cringe hard on GB and SV pugs

aint no way thats a good experience

[rotund oak]

pog

ToP's a goat

[fallen arch]

ToP can go fuck itself

SD gud

[solar wyvern]

Just don't pug 5head

[fallen arch]

Imo

[rotund oak]

we done top so much its all mechanical by now

unless they cook new mechanics

which will make it atrocious

[fallen arch]

Ye but 5 bosses

Yikes

[rotund oak]

true that

and couple of mini bosses

[thin dock]

guys, i am not raiding mythic (appart from first 2 bosses pugs), so my only chance for m path items are basically vault.
what do you guys think about crafting a chest piece?

[fallen arch]

I mean u can

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[remote vector]

Does the set from the Assa Rogue talent screen exist ingame?

[thin dock]

Tbf, I have creafted belt boots and dagger already

[naive crane]

I think chest piece is a good craft. If you have good rings go for it.

[grim jay]

With random tanks its kinda wild for trash between first and second boss
Last boss annoying af aswell

All in all not the worst key

But could be better

[fallen arch]

The weapons are legion legendary

But this is a question for #transmog

[remote vector]

oh, aight, sorry

[novel star]

that’s valeera(npc) so i don’t think so

[fallen arch]

U could probably make something like that

[loud brook]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[remote vector]

NOOOOO 😦 it looks so sick

[novel star]

they might add it in the future?

they’re doing the sylvanas mog for hunters

[grim jay]

Kinda got my hopes up after the sylvanas mog ye

Could have a really nice male version aswell

Unlike what they did for the sylvanas armor

[normal mist]

Actually those weapons are unique and we can't have them

[remote vector]

are they still obtainable?

[final star]

It is by far the easiest key rn

pretty much the gold standard for ease of play ngl

[normal mist]

If he's talking mage tower, no

[final star]

it's clear what to do and where to go

trash isn't egregious

and bosses have 3-4 mechanics that are easy to udnerstand

[soft scaffold]

!lag

[prisma monolith]

Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.

You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end

[grim jay]

I dont think ara kara is much worse tho

[normal mist]

Last boss is a pain

[cunning basin]

Siege, ara, and dawn breaker all pretty free imp

Imo*

[grim jay]

Its fine if you dont have 2 melees

Or a shaman with a brain

[cunning basin]

Long as your melee have a brain on ara

Me and some guildies were doing 11 arakara for vault the other day and accidentally +2'd it

The only part of dawnbreaker I don't care for is the fkin abyssal blast from the mini bosses. That shit TRUCKS on higher keys

[rotund oak]

ppl are choking hard in siege

[amber brook]

Dumb question but can I remove a prismatic gem once socketed?

[rotund oak]

doubt siege is free

[ebon river]

this is what i came here to read about

its different from the wowhead article i read

[cunning basin]

Yes you can just replace it with another one, but the socketed one is destroyed

[amber brook]

So once socketed it's just stuck there with no way to remove besides replacing it right?

[cunning basin]

Yuh

[amber brook]

feels bad

[cunning basin]

I mean with Challenger's peril anyone can choke in any dungeon unfortunately so nothing is LITERALLY free. But siege is about as close to free as you can get. Nothing is particularly deadly unless you fuck up, mechanics are pretty telegraphed and easily avoidable etc

Meanwhile lavabenders in gb still casting frontals before the animation shows up and blasting pugs into oblivion

[rotund oak]

normally ye couldnt agree more,its more like chimptanks chimping stuff on top of stuff and getting overwhelmed

[cunning basin]

Ye my dh that I play with has started using my blind as an external and trying to help me get a stealth off between pulls so he can pull big with my DRs lmao

Pug tanks tho

Gotta love watching a dh infernal strike into a pack and get FLATTENED

THAT shit is pure comedy

[royal lantern]

2nd boss aoe dmg + orb overlap is ugly, and ironically the add before the last boss hurts alot

[cunning basin]

Yeah it's a little rough but it's all like telegraphed and shit so people are surprisingly prepared to press defensives for the last overlap. The biggest problem I've had pugging that key specifically is tanks not knowing the count needed to go up and pulling WAY too much down below and wasting an extra ~2 min

Usually the shaman dies on that overlap

[royal lantern]

ankh is a deffensive or smth like that

[cunning basin]

Yeah was gonna say ankh defensive stonks going to the moon LMAO

On God tho idk who decided that abyssal blast should tick for 2.4mil on a 10 but I hope they're having a bad day

[broken aspen]

Hi universal Patch assa is buffed or nerf ?

[subtle tundra]

depends on dungeon
dawnbreaker yea ive timed 14 with wipe

easy timer

[cunning basin]

🤷

[subtle tundra]

but nw??? holy shit sweatfest

[cunning basin]

Wake is a shitshow lmao

My dh got the silly idea after we bricked 12 ara to try 12 nw

And let me tell ya

That did not go well

[subtle tundra]

they somehow turned that chill dungeon into a fuck party

[grim jay]

Ye thats what I said, like there is no way you will ever time it if you wipe on stitch, which is shitty design

[cunning basin]

We did almost make it to the first boss

[subtle tundra]

honestly any wipe on nw, timer is just tight af

[warped portal]

are the .5 patch changes making us better or worse? it reads like its getting even better but idk

[subtle tundra]

i dont have a lot of experience though maybe if you have giga blasters

[cunning basin]

Idk why the reduced timer, added challengers peril, and increased the count req from shadowlands

Like

[subtle tundra]

and weapons are giga nerfed

[cunning basin]

Yup

[subtle tundra]

on top

[cunning basin]

Why not just like

[subtle tundra]

and no kyrian goliath

like...

[cunning basin]

One of those changes

Instead of

Literally all of them

[grim jay]

Stacked spears on stitch are still the only way to do him reasonably tho

[cunning basin]

Any single one would make the dungeon harder

But they were like yolo pull the lever make necrotic wake into necrotic hell

The terrorism I've seen from that key is insane too. Tank is like "aight list first pull" then proceeds to pull ALL the soldiers + the middle pack and first pack and a fucking necro

Like. Brother.

[feral wasp]

I don't mind the first pull

but I hate when tank pulls 2 cleave guy at the bridge with the next necromancer pack

[inland escarp]

They don’t stack anymore as of this week though

[past panther]

gm all

[fallen arch]

Then you stagger them I guess

So you have extended amp

But ye they indirectly buffed that boss

Even with the hp nerf

[native escarp]

[fallen arch]

W

[grim jay]

Oh really? Didnt read changes

[fallen arch]

They nerfed that boss by 20% hp

But changed the spears

To not stack

But we all know the true problems there are the aboms

[cunning basin]

😬

[jade abyss]

When we are targeted in nw from the frontal from the first boss, we can use evasion against it? Or only cloak to negate all damage

[fallen arch]

Cloak

Evasion works only with the hero talent I think

Bait and switch?

[worldly sail]

evasion works

[soft merlin]

Evasion works regardless

[low kernel]

Evasion works, cloak you have to time

[fallen arch]

Does it now

[worldly sail]

first second of cloak also works

[grim glen]

I have a question about chaining. It works well if there are still 3-4 mobs alive, but if the tank chains like 1 mob at 5% and I dont have vanish, I feel like it takes forever to get my setup going

[jade abyss]

Thanks for the answers guys

[fallen arch]

Ye feels bad

[native escarp]

fixes all my crit haha

6k to 10k

[glacial crypt]

Love to see it

[strange python]

@balmy condor Plz tell ayysha to stream i NEEEED to see how she plays feral

[royal lantern]

kill the add and then stealth

or use vanish

or ignore the add and start to dot

and realise that this situation doesnt happen "all the time"

[grim glen]

oh i know. it is what it is. I just started on my rogue, so I'm just asking in case I miss something obvious

and my guild's rogue always screams at me in french when I chain pull

[royal lantern]

ye hes a dumbass then

chainpulls are good

[glacial crypt]

Your guilds rogue is a demon

[fallen arch]

Depends

Tank pulling one 6% mob into a new pack is cringe

that doesn’t save time

[fickle siren]

anyone have problems appyling bubbling wax? sometimes its just doesnt work

[fallen arch]

It makes a setup so much smoother if he chills for 5 more seconds

Also iron wire

[olive lagoon]

Hey anyone know about how to use Mercurial Egg for best dmg?

[royal lantern]

read

pls

[sullen hollow]

anyone have mouseover garrote and rupt macro they can link quick

[quiet oar]

Chainpulls are when the previous pack has like 20-30%

not 4

[marble kite]

#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover, harm, nodead] [] SPELLNAME

[primal jolt]

i figured out how to maximise my dps as rogue, energy drinks and coffee wasn't enough so i started eating coffee candy while not drinking neither

[cunning basin]

Or your tank could keep pulling while they're rolling defensives and you can stay back to finish off the mob and get your restealth

Ez

[feral wasp]

/wa

.wa

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[glacial crypt]

Girl dinner

[fallen arch]

Sometimes that works yes

Also I know why they do it

I don’t have to like it though

[dim nebula]

what food buff should we get? the sushi one is so expensive

is chippy tea cool?

[limber lion]

sure

[worldly sail]

beledar’s bounty gives same stats as sushi

[lean plover]

Beledar bounty is cheap to make as well

[visual lake]

Quick question. Pretty much all the logs I look at are Death Stalker but Fate-bound is simming higher for me. Should Death Stalker provide more dps or are both talent choices competitive?

[fallen arch]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[fallen arch]

They’re pretty similar ye

[brave comet]

why's regicide the best dagger in the game for us?

[spice surge]

It isnt really

[visual lake]

Ok cheers. I kinda prefer playing FB anyway so that works for me

[spice surge]

Its just a dagger with regular stats

[brave comet]

is there something better?

[fallen arch]

Any dagger with big ilvl is good for us

No not really

[spice surge]

Any dagger with higher ilvl or one that sims higher

Its not a special dagger

[real pike]

pls guys help me settle an argument - is RO a commonly used acronym in wow?

[subtle tundra]

ro - romania

yes

or what you talking about

[fallen arch]

Uh

RO?

[real pike]

fuck sake

this has not gone how I expected

[subtle tundra]

💀

[fallen arch]

I wouldn’t know what you mean with that

[real pike]

Raid Over 😭 it definitely used to be commonly used but it's a pug lyf thing or outdated ig

[fallen arch]

Repeat offender?

[novel star]

yeah not common

either pug or not common

but prob just not common

[fallen arch]

Nope never heard

[subtle tundra]

yea never heard

lol

[novel star]

same

im just guesisng

[real pike]

G fucking G

[novel star]

maybe theres a deep pug culture ive never seen

but yeah

ur cooked

[fallen arch]

I’m balls deep into pug culture

Never heard

[novel star]

lmfao ok

[real pike]

https://tenor.com/view/adrian-broner-getting-cooked-cooked-aint-gone-lie-gif-2072784628130052433

[limber lion]

Never in my 10+ years of WoW have I heard that before

[glacial crypt]

Yeah nah same

[fallen arch]

19 years 11 months here 🤓

[glacial crypt]

"we'll call it here"

It's always been "call it" in my experience

[limber lion]

But even then you don't abbreviate it

[boreal lichen]

How should i handle deathstalker mark in high keys 13+? Once i have it rolling or Time to reaply it its easy. But for example in gb first pull 1 drake +1/2 packs. Schould i just chill in stealth till tank positions all mobs near corner and open with ambush on drake(prio Target) or should i as soon as tank has enough aggro on first pack go ham on the mobs and ignore the deathmark. Same with stv pull or nw

[glacial crypt]

Would you like some WD40 for the wheels on your Zimmerframe?

[limber lion]

You don't go "alright we're gonna CI"

lol

[glacial crypt]

It just sounds so unnatural 😭

[limber lion]

yuuup

[real pike]

I definitely see "RO here guys" but mainly on the wrath private server I play on or in my memory from years ago

[subtle tundra]

you follow tank and ambush the dragoon

[real pike]

I accept defeat on this one

[glacial crypt]

Private server lingo would make sense

But I've never played private servers

[limber lion]

Why would you even abbreviate it

Like

[glacial crypt]

HAHAHA

[limber lion]

"Raid Over" ain't exactly an essay

[real pike]

cause raids fail so often 💀

[real pike]

I mean loads of things around that length are abbreviated

[glacial crypt]

Would it be used in a RW?

Like pug

[real pike]

Overwatch is the same number of characters

[real pike]

yea

[fallen arch]

I need wd40 for my knees nowadays if I play too long

[glacial crypt]

You got a stray id like to apologise

xd

I'm afraid to count the years I've played wow for

[fallen arch]

Its easy for me, 2nd month when it came out

[glacial crypt]

What age are you?

[fallen arch]

And we have the anniversary event next week

34

[limber lion]

This just reminds me of the meme where only minorities can read a certain combination of letters.

[glacial crypt]

You're not even old

[limber lion]

Like "GYAITMFHBIBYA"

[subtle tundra]

gyat

[glacial crypt]

The ted gif was a jumpscare

[subtle tundra]

ah gyait

[fallen arch]

https://tenor.com/view/pepperidge-pepperidge-farm-remembers-remember-gif-15527169458174144495

[real pike]

get your ass in the motherfucking house before I beat your ass?

[limber lion]

that's the one

[fallen arch]

What the hell

[real pike]

yuge

[glacial crypt]

HAHAHA

[fallen arch]

I wouldn’t have made that

[real pike]

maybe I'm just the acronym whisperer

[glacial crypt]

That's a wild one

[soft shale]

i though that was a curse

[marsh zinc]

How will the tea change affect assa rogue?

[limber lion]

It won't

It still plays the same, but for anyone who doesn't care about pressing it and just wanna spam, it's one less keybind to worry about

[arctic socket]

You should still press it during kingsbane though ^

[fallen arch]

I’m more concerend about ttk

[arctic socket]

How

And why

[limber lion]

You don't even currently press it during kingsbane...

[arctic socket]

You’re not?

[limber lion]

You do if you play 2 Shiv's

But the rule is:

• Energy
• During Shiv
• No tea up

If you play one Shiv, you just use it with whatever Shiv

Doesn't have to be KB

But with 2 Shiv's you obviously always use them with KB anyways

Tea has no KB condition whatsoever

[arctic socket]

If you’re press shiv

That’s still during your kb

[limber lion]

No

Not with 1 Shiv

Also not necessarily in like mythic+ or whatever

[arctic socket]

[limber lion]

You think you never press Shiv outside of KB

if you have 1 Shiv?

lol

just press it once and sit on the cd for 35s

miss out on 1.5 casts

[arctic socket]

No but half of the other time it’s during kb

[limber lion]

It might be

But you still use tea with Shiv

Not with KB

You might send just one Shiv without KB

and use tea

if you get max energy from it

KB has nothing to do with

Stop thinking about KB and tea together

it's not a thing

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
• While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[limber lion]

Fuck forgot the restealth command is still boinked

[arctic socket]

We are using tea for energy… and wouldn’t energy be most important during our KB window?

[limber lion]

No

We use tea for energy together with Shiv

That's the rule

[arctic socket]

And in mythic+ why are you pressing shiv + tea anyways? You should never have energy issues

[limber lion]

You might start a KB window with 0 energy and 0 tea charges

and that's fine

[glacial crypt]

This is excellent

[limber lion]

Not necessarily true in 1-2T

[arctic socket]

If you’re pulling 1-2t you’re group is horrible

[limber lion]

Brother

[real pike]

it sure doesn't feel fine being energy starved in KB

[glacial crypt]

Omg

[limber lion]

Some dungeon layouts are like that

[arctic socket]

Name one

[limber lion]

Like there's demibosses or whatever

And big boys

[arctic socket]

Name one

[dawn heath]

if i shadowstep someone when i am in combat does that put them in combat too?

[glacial crypt]

I can think of a few but this is far too funny to ruin

[past panther]

you are group is

[limber lion]

Also, you might pull a big pack and kill all the small boys instantly

and then have 1-2 targets left

[runic basin]

Are the upcoming changes with 11.05 are buffs for sin ?

[limber lion]

Like you pull all the small boys and one creeper in grim batol

smallies die in 2s

[arctic socket]

[limber lion]

but the creeper lives longer

that's how the game works

[arctic socket]

Bro is hard trolling this morning

[limber lion]

the guy that has 100m hp dies much later than the dudes with 1m hp

?

Literally not

[limber lion]

Yes, pins have some info about em

[candid moat]

Hello folks, can we macro tea with shiv or kingsbane ? or it will not work

[glacial crypt]

[limber lion]

Yeah that's fine, but it is not recommended whatsoever

You want to use tea for energy and macroing it together is a waste

[subtle tundra]

dawnbreaker mini bosses

[arctic socket]

You press tea during kb whether you need energy

[limber lion]

Tea has a passive effect with the next passive anyways so you don't need to macro

[glacial crypt]

Noooo shhh

[limber lion]

No you do not

[glacial crypt]

Let them fight

[limber lion]

Literally

lol

[runic basin]

Checked them but see only changes. But also didnt saw Whyspers YouTube

[arctic socket]

You don’t pull a few adds with the mini bosses?

Besides the orb guy

[limber lion]

Yes and they die instantly

[subtle tundra]

yea lets see you pull

on a 14

[limber lion]

lmao

[subtle tundra]

when the debuff

kills you instantly

[limber lion]

This guy's having a bad day I guess

idk

[sullen phoenix]

So we dont tea on opener when full energy? with all cds?

[subtle tundra]

you literally have to LoS the cast if you dont have a defensive

cause you die

running out of melee hiding

hoping it goes on someone else

[limber lion]

Well there's an old pin that goes over all the changes

But yeah, overall it's a buff

[limber lion]

You do to get it on cooldown, yes

[sullen phoenix]

ah okok

[limber lion]

After that you press it for energy during Shiv

Any Shiv

[sullen phoenix]

got it

[limber lion]

thistle_tea,if=!buff.thistle_tea.up&(((energy.deficit>=100+energy.regen_combined|charges>=3)&debuff.shiv.remains>=4)|spell_targets.fan_of_knives>=4&debuff.shiv.remains>=6)|fight_remains<charges*6

This is the entire Shiv line.

[subtle tundra]

ok putting that in my ert note

ty

[limber lion]

And it even has a description, which most lines do not:
Avoid overcapped energy, use with shiv, or dump charges at the end of a fight

[limber lion]

very good

But yeah no mention of KB whatsoever

[onyx wind]

guys is assa good right now?

[limber lion]

Yes

[onyx wind]

will it get nerfed

[limber lion]

With the buffs to tier set and the changes coming up, it is really good yeah

[limber lion]

No

Literally getting buffed

[glacial crypt]

Cev are you feeling okay

[limber lion]

Feeling great

[glacial crypt]

That's great

[limber lion]

Just had a massive breakfast, slamming down an energy drink

[candid moat]

so when playing with the one charge of shiv, send tea and shiv during last seconds of king bane? would like to get rid of one button by macroing king bane and tea together as they are 1min cd both, but seems that you have to delay tea during kingbane

[glacial crypt]

vape + red bull is the juice

[glacial crypt]

last 7 shiv and last 5 tea

[limber lion]

You don't have to macro tea, it will be passive in the next patch anyways

It's fine

[limber lion]

Very sick

[lean plover]

Coffe+cig is way superior

[past panther]

thems are some vices

[limber lion]

I like how "sick" as a term can be used positively and negatively

Very sick

[limber lion]

I never understood how anyone can like and get addicted to cigarrette's

meanwhile I'm devouring like 1kg sugar every day

[lean plover]

Nicotine strong

[limber lion]

can't live without being addicted to something shitty

Damn the filter got em

[lean plover]

Like, very strong

[real pike]

it's not my day

[limber lion]

It just fucks up my throat everytime I try a cig or a vape

My dad used to smoke cigs in the kitchen every day when I was younger

[real pike]

wasn't even being aggressive just english and swear in normal chat xd

[limber lion]

maybe that's also why I dislike em

[limber lion]

Probably used a filtered word and that's it

Nothing to worry about

[lean plover]

Has a very strong smell, but if you smoke you dont even notice it

[real pike]

cigs/vapes are a bottom tier addiction tho you don't get anything good from them? just have a bad time when you don't have any

if you're gonna be addicted to something at least get high from it or tasty food or something

[limber lion]

I think it can relieve stress in some people

I have had days where I'm super annoyed and angry and would love to smoke a cig

[lean plover]

Ironically it is a stimulant (i think) so it makes it worse

[real pike]

I think it does at first, but eventually the stress is caused by not having one recently enough and it just brings you back to neutral

[limber lion]

True

[lean plover]

Yep

That lasts like 30 minutes tho

[limber lion]

I kinda wanna get rid of my energy drink and sugar addiction

But not sure how to go about doing it

Going cold turkey sounds like death

[lean plover]

You could gradualy reduce intake

[ashen orbit]

try cigarettes instead

[subtle tundra]

i sometimes just go cold turkey for months

[ashen orbit]

replace it

https://tenor.com/view/undead-doing-lines-wow-world-of-warcraft-captain-grimm-gif-21166839

or coke

[subtle tundra]

its all in your head, if i think about my health i legit can do anything!

[lean plover]

Replacing 1kg of sugar with 1 pack of ciga a day isnt exactly the best idea

[bright tartan]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling wax:

• Can be pickpocketed from kobolds in e.g. The Ringing Deeps. (needs The Final Candle questline completed.)
• Only use it on one weapon. (does not stack)

[frozen jasper]

Hey, is it possible on plater to have the bordercolor of mobs with a debuff on them to differ from mobs without? For example giving mobs with rupture on them a red border?

[lean plover]

Yep

[limber lion]

Yep for sure

[lean plover]

Caustis spatter turns the plate green in my case

[limber lion]

My plater currently colors the nameplate entirely green if they have Spatter on them, or adds a purple border if it has Deathstalker's Mark on them

[lean plover]

Think its whyspir pack

[frozen jasper]

yeah, was looking for something like that as well

[limber lion]

You can just yoink the Deathstalker script from my plater and change the colors and trigger to Rupture/Garrote or whatever

[lean plover]

I have purple plates for dangerous casting mobs

[frozen jasper]

can you also do prios? like if rupture turn red, but if spatter is on turn green as prio one?

[limber lion]

Nowadays manual multidotting isn't really that prevalent, so tracking garrotes/ruptures isn't as important as it was in the past

[limber lion]

Yeah you just make the other script higher in the priority

[frozen jasper]

yeah i just seem to have trouble in bigger pulls to identify so i was looking for something visual to help in that case

aight thanks lads

[subtle tundra]

fuck me man fuck i want to tab target garrotes and ruptures again fuck man

i want to be able to target whatever mob i want

[candid moat]

Hey do you track Crimsom Tempest on your plater or you don't care ?

[limber lion]

I think I do yeah, but it's not super important

[limber lion]

Yeah for sure

[limber lion]

I know right.

[marsh zinc]

I never did anything like this I press 1 tea with kb and 2 teas with kb and dm

But the rest of the time I spam the hell out of mutilate and drop below 50 energy all the time

[subtle tundra]

i want to be told "rogue on star" and i had to be the slave to do as my master said

[limber lion]

Yeah, that's not really great

[subtle tundra]

to cc rota that stupid mob

[limber lion]

Tea is mainly strong because of the energy

the mastery is just a small bonus

[toxic patio]

Do we want to use shiv early on kingsbane or late? Playing 1 shiv

[lean plover]

The mastery bonus doesnt make its usage intuitive imo

[lean plover]

Last 8 seconds

[toxic patio]

Ok thanks, and why is that, is kingsbane stronger at the end?

[limber lion]

Yes, it ramps up in damage

[toxic patio]

Oh ok ok, thanks

[limber lion]

Yeah, it was very intuitive in the past when it only gave energy

When the mastery was introduced, we ignored it entirely because it didn't do anything

[toxic patio]

And does anyone have or know a weakaurs that tells u when to use shiv on kingsbane by any chance?

[limber lion]

We currently kinda ignore it still because we use it for energy mainly

[limber lion]

Not really, you just gotta practice and get the timing down

It shouldn't take too long to get it down

[lean plover]

There is a wa that tracks kingsbane cd, its dmg, and envenom and shiv uptime during it

[limber lion]

Would personally not recommend it

[toxic patio]

I guess I'll just make one to see the duration of kingsbane on target

[lean plover]

Whys that? I like seeing how much dmg kinsbane does

[limber lion]

Sure, it is fine as a dopamine booster or whatever, but that's also kinda what Details is for

[safe barn]

@limber lion do you have any povs atm?

[limber lion]

If you're trying to improve as a player, it's not the best

[limber lion]

Yeah, that is a must-have.

[limber lion]

Not currently, no. Sorry.

[safe barn]

wanted to know if we rupture the adds from below in the 2nd boss

[limber lion]

Yeah you should

[toxic patio]

Probably vanish into garrote and ruptures no?

[limber lion]

If you play IC, sure

[lean plover]

I get a dopamine boost when i see NEW RECORD!

[limber lion]

But you probably shouldn't

[rain mortar]

I can’t wait to never press SnD again

[subtle tundra]

i cant wait for sl classic so i can experience snd being readded again

[candid moat]

They remove SnD ?

[limber lion]

It is now baked into Envenom entirely

So you just Envenom to gain Slice and Dice uptime

[candid moat]

So no more pressing tea and SnD ?

[limber lion]

Ye

You should still press tea manually if you want to play optimally

[toxic patio]

Are the changes on rogue gonna change the gameplay or it's gonna be the same

[limber lion]

It's going to be the same pretty much

[candid moat]

and reprimand ?

[limber lion]

That's changed entirely

To work with Shiv instead

So yeah, no ER either

[candid moat]

banger

[toxic patio]

What is SnD, slice and dice?

[limber lion]

Yeh

[candid moat]

I love when they do that

[mystic osprey]

shake n dance

[safe barn]

now during shiv windows its kinda mandatory to spend full cp no?

to get the extra 3

[limber lion]

No, you still follow the normal cp rules

Overcapping and wasting cp is still a really bad thing to do

So it's better to finish on 5+ than trying to get to 7 everytime

[normal mist]

Next we know mutilate will swap to envenom when at 5+ CP, or 7 when DN up

[real pike]

you'll still end up on 7 often enough with DN + random procs

[limber lion]

Yup

[uneven summit]

so bubbling wax on one, whetstone on another?

[lean plover]

Oil is decent too if whetstones are too expensive

[uneven summit]

mana oil, yea?

[limber lion]

Ye

[uneven summit]

fair

[lean plover]

yes

[uneven summit]

didnt know that bubbling didnt stack tbf

[violet jackal]

I don’t know if they fixed it but wax on main hand whetstone in off hand

[uneven summit]

2x whetstone is still technically better i guess? tho its probably a smol one

[violet jackal]

100%

But I’m too broke for that

[lean plover]

It is stronger

But 2x as expensive

[uneven summit]

Yeah

fair, thanks boys

[violet jackal]

I love that wax is free I hope they continue to do something like that every expansion going forward

[winged sun]

If all consumables were 90% cheaper like every other expansion you’d be saving 10 times more gold

Maybe complain about that first

[lean plover]

I love class unique small things

[winged sun]

[robust pine]

do i understand it right i only can apply caustic spatter to 1 enemy at a time?

[lean plover]

Yes

Only one can be applies

[robust pine]

and in the opener how do I apply as many as possible ruptures/garrotes to enemys? do I swap between and recast or do I hit one target multiple times to spread it?

[nimble vector]

depends on target count, above 5 targets you will be losing bleeds by only hitting 1 target

[robust pine]

I tried to swap between but lost the overview quickly 😄

[viscid spear]

I wish they balanced it to be better than whetstone, considering DKs have had Runeforging since the class was created.

[nimble vector]

you can use mouseover stuff if it makes it easier to not lose your main target

[robust pine]

oh thats a good tip actually

ty

[lean plover]

Could also set focus on main target

[limber lion]

You can just cast on one single target unless you have more than 8+ targets

[uneven summit]

i started doing this with eye of command, never stopped since

remember eye of command days

[limber lion]

Bring back Upper Karazhan in mythic+

[marsh zinc]

But all the logs and vods I've seen so far do it like that??

Im parsing decent with it too so where is my mistake so I can improve here

[quiet oar]

[limber lion]

I highly doubt it

You should be using one tea with all cds in the beginning

And after that you use it for energy during Shiv

That's it

[uneven summit]

yeaaa boii

[limber lion]

You should not spam tea's during cds unless you get max energy from it

And even then, you don't want to overlap tea buffs

[violet bay]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[real granite]

why am i seeing lot of rogues throwing fok in single target when going vicious venoms? is it worth it the crit buff?

or are they just using it cause force of habit from m+?

[safe barn]

@limber lion is there some kind of rule of thumb to send or delay cds during prog?

[quick crypt]

Does anyone know m+ team search discord channel?

[safe barn]

example, i do not know how to behave in ulgrax

hahaha

do we send stuff in the big adds?

[subtle tundra]

people misplay

[nimble vector]

Just send on boss

[nova aspen]

google Mythic Plus Friends discord server

[viscid spear]

Bring back BRD for the 20th anniversary and make it the whole dungeon.

[safe barn]

idk if my guild timers are different but, i will have to delay it, right?

kingsbane at least

[quiet oar]

I do it, when i need 1 cp for DN

idk

monke brain

[subtle tundra]

bro ive looked at 2 top logs on sikran and damn

people cant tea

not a big sample size

but damn they are bad

wtf

[nimble vector]

yeah, but as long as your guild is not struggling to kill adds for some reason, sending on boss will always be better

[quiet oar]

i cant tea too

!tea

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
• While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[quiet oar]

HUH

[subtle tundra]

LOL

NICE TEA LOSER

[nimble vector]

stealth has the word tea in it 🙂

I'm not sure if there is a tea command

[quiet oar]

There was

[subtle tundra]

!stea

[fallen arch]

Moroes is cooked

[nova aspen]

the tea command is ping whispyr with a tea question

[lean plover]

Wonder whats the dps gap between optimaly using tea and using 1on kb 2 on dm

[subtle tundra]

a bit but thats not the point

[frozen jasper]

@limber lion can i dm you real quick regarding the nameplate border stuff? was in a key

[subtle tundra]

like you can fucking macro it

[quiet oar]

using 2 on DM

[subtle tundra]

and it wont kill your dps

[safe barn]

will have that in mind

[quiet oar]

is a fucking waste of energy

[subtle tundra]

its just something

[quiet oar]

enlighten me varas

How do i tea

[subtle tundra]

but tea usage is something really easy to fix gameplay wise

no huge brain required

[marsh zinc]

I'm doing it since I'm bad according to class discord but I still don't understand when to use it

[quick crypt]

Link plis

[flint tusk]

If you aren't sending all 3 tea charges during pull timer what are you doing.

[subtle tundra]

you get your kettle
put water, wait until it boils
pour it into your cup
add the tea bag
WAIT
drink eventually

yw

[quiet oar]

Thanks

Finally

[subtle tundra]

anyone tried tea with cold water

[nova aspen]

dm'd

[spice spire]

Making it? No

Big fan of iced tea though

[subtle tundra]

you havent tried making it?

ugh

[spice spire]

Mf wants to make cold brew but tea

[quiet oar]

I mean

Your name is diet pepsi

[fleet sorrel]

what do u think guys is it worth to craft ring for matching stats?

[quiet oar]

huh

wdym

[fleet sorrel]

t9

worth*

[supple pawn]

Hello! Im doing M+ and im about to craft my second 636, I already have the dagger with Ascension, should I put the next embelishment as the one that doubles an effect or the one thats extra crit if you have more than 80% health?

[quiet oar]

I literally dont know what you are trying to ask

Dont Craft an off-ahdn dagger

[nimble vector]

if you have ascension you should get the patch

[quiet oar]

Do you ahe myth track items

[nimble vector]

I think he's just asking about embellishment, not the item

[supple pawn]

Thanks!

[quiet oar]

Ye

[nimble vector]

but yeah don't craft an offhand dagger

[supple pawn]

Yeah Im crafting bracers

[quiet oar]

But you dont craft 636, when you can get Myth tracks easily

[supple pawn]

In m+ only its kinda hard hahaha

[quiet oar]

Yeah ok

Crafting is prolly better than upgrading 619-626

[supple pawn]

We dont time enough 10s right now to afford the upgrades

[quiet oar]

Yeah, i just wanted to get this out

Because Myth Tracks items are better usage of Gilded

[supple pawn]

It feels like a better use of the crests tbh

[quiet oar]

but if you dont ahve any

it is whatever prolly

[split veldt]

Anyone know why my all star points are so low?

[quiet oar]

Becuase upgrading a myth track item from 1/6 to 5/6 (Which is 636) costs 60 gilded

[split veldt]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/illidan/crispylardon#difficulty=4

[quiet oar]

and craftin costs 90

[supple pawn]

True, añthough the embelishments dps gain is still better than 639

[quiet oar]

Embelishments dont scale

with ilvl

you can just craft it on 619

[supple pawn]

I mean a 636 with embelishment

[split veldt]

Super low on mythic too

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/illidan/crispylardon#difficulty=5

[supple pawn]

better than a 639 without

[quiet oar]

If its the patch

[lean plover]

Spanish detected

[quiet oar]

i doubt that tbh

[supple pawn]

Hahahaha I mean jajajajaja

[lean plover]

I mean ñ JAJAJAJA

[normal mist]

Where are my neighbours at

Them Spanish

Que passa chico

Jajajajaj

Polo frito

[supple pawn]

Rompiendo piedras

Bricking keys all day everyday

[normal mist]

Atleast you're consistent

[lean plover]

Consistency is key

[supple pawn]

Yeah my premade is def consistent at that