assassination

[novel star]

shiv is a fake button in m+ tbh

[smoky belfry]

Sometimes you just gotta throw some respect on the Willem

[novel star]

i just use that bitch for the soothe

[smoky belfry]

Ah okay I think I figured out why it was reading weird to me now. It’s the # on the target not the # of instances of application? Right?

[balmy condor]

what number

you cast kingsbane

it starts ramping

with every poison

[idle inlet]

should I pool energy at all before kingsbane windows or is it not something I need to worry about?

[coral ibex]

you should have tea charges for kingsbane so you can freely spam envenoms

[lucid rain]

you'd delay transmitter for 30 seconds to pair it with deathmark, yes?

[errant mauve]

You don’t use for kingsbane in M+?

[coral ibex]

you do but only at the end

[novel star]

i mean you do

but its only single target damage

so

[smoky belfry]

I read it as the ramp occurs only when a poison is added after KB is cast. So that was my confusion. Bc shiv applies a poison each time. I thought you were basically not benefiting Kb from the first shiv . All cleared up now I think. Ty for answers

[nimble ether]

It removes enrage

[coral ibex]

me when i make the enforcer go from HUGE to normal sized

[nimble ether]

Really Good for certain packs

Literally lol

[errant mauve]

What dungeons have enrage mobs? Which mobs I’ve been a fool this entire time

[coral ibex]

they're all over grim batol

[lucid rain]

I think the tacticians do in dawnbreaker

[cinder bone]

yeah just look for the crazy red eye icon

[lucid rain]

grim batol with the enforcers

[cinder bone]

a good plater profile makes it pretty obvious

[coral ibex]

the big guys with the tremor casters also can get shivved

idr what they're called

[nimble ether]

My m+ tank always yells SHIV

Wen an enemy enrage Lolol

[lucid rain]

twilight overseer

[errant mauve]

Hmm I use quazii plater but a lot of the icons are pretty small and it seems cluttered a lot with a lot of mobs and their plater up

[coral ibex]

i just know mobs by their plater colors lol

[coral ibex]

these are pink for me

[errant mauve]

Lol

[coral ibex]

but saying "the pink guys" doesn't mean anything lol

[balmy condor]

every hit has a chance

some added info, slightly over 90% of your poison applications are from auto attacks, so best way to do dam during kingsbane is just like, hit the guy lmao

[nimble ether]

Slice and dice him

While making link attack noises for the Dps buff

[bleak spoke]

@balmy condor how do you make this cast a trinket on every kb https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/17DmT7wsN4Kcbh7eyL4UGc

and not just send skardyn's at the very end for no reason

https://i.imgur.com/neaofGD.png i get the (bad) feeling that this might be good

[shadow badger]

L play better bozo

[smoky belfry]

Cool okay I am now in the know. Ty for explaining hahaha

[slim pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/sassy-asian-girl-insult-suck-my-ass-gif-5308906

[bleak spoke]

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/b1340B2.png

[cinder bone]

I'll brick 1 key a week because of a greedy transmitter use

never mine though

[bleak spoke]

i lose like an average of like 25% of my transmitters i swear to god

underwater in siege, off the ledge in ara kara, in the lava in grim batol or in the chasm, in the chasm after 2nd boss mists, etc etc

[static glacier]

highkey

id rather run double passive over transmitter in keys

[bleak spoke]

i'm just playin skardyns and spyglass in key idc

just interested in whether or not this is good

in an academic sense almost

[static glacier]

its worse than skardyns just bc of the requirement vs just working

[bleak spoke]

yeh

[mighty zenith]

What level of keys should we swap to the m+ hybrid build?

[bleak spoke]

which one is that is that the standard build

[coral ibex]

2

[bleak spoke]

like CT, 4 capstones, 1 shiv, iron wire?

literally every m+ key yeah

[mighty zenith]

oh yeah im dumb thought there was a build w/o kb

dont mind me ♿

[slim pebble]

Should I throw gilded into this if I have a crafted 636 already?

[bleak spoke]

goes to 639

[slim pebble]

I know

[bleak spoke]

i did

[slim pebble]

Just didnt know if those 3 ilvl would be better than spreading out my gilded to other things

[bleak spoke]

weapon dps is unmatched

in value

at least mh weapon dps*

[novel star]

until u actually get the 636-639 upgrade i think its kinda mid

cus its just offhand ilvls atp

[bleak spoke]

well yeah

[undone crest]

Does anyone know if its worth it to hold Transmitter trinket to be used with deathmark?

[novel star]

but yeh

[bleak spoke]

if it's actually an upgrade then it's good otherwise it's bad

[novel star]

long term investment its obv worth

[slim pebble]

I think I have 82 gilded

[novel star]

just wont see it immediately unless u can max it out

[slim pebble]

IDK if thats enough

[bleak spoke]

75

to go from 1 to 6

[novel star]

it is enough ye

but idk sim it

im cranking gilded into skardyns atm even tho i got myth dagger drop cus idgaf

but a smarter person

sims it

[bleak spoke]

after pullin dagger out of vault i did my 8 10s for the week insta

[bleak spoke]

oh you got the good skardyns

[slim pebble]

I maxed my hero track skardyns last week!

[novel star]

ya like 3 days after getting the hero drop on key 40

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/SfGwi3V.jpeg rate my niche build for sudden demise oneshots on 4 heroic dungeons for weekly

[lament stump]

r guys using transmitter

[bleak spoke]

i was until i got skardyns never using it again

[lament stump]

r u *

[bleak spoke]

LOL

[lament stump]

oh i c

i thought assass was suddenly going transmitter i was like god no pls

[bleak spoke]

i mean it technically sims better but

i literally cannot be asked

in key at least

in raid its not bad

[outer marlin]

my parse on court is lower than my other parses, what should my goals be in that fight to max dps 🙂

[lament stump]

any1 other specs use it ?

ik sub its a must have

[bleak spoke]

subtlety

uh dh, as of this morning cuz they fixed their apl

fdk

udk

[lament stump]

hmm

[bleak spoke]

ret pally it's good on too i think

[lament stump]

potential of it getting nerfed ?

[bleak spoke]

also lots of ranged specs play it alongside spymasters

and send it as their normal cd trinket then send spymasters fully stacked

[lament stump]

i thought transmitter was relatively niche so i wasnt concerned about it being clearly the best for sub

i just hope it doesnt get touched lol

[bleak spoke]

i mean it's the chase drop off one of the late bosses in the raid

they rarely hit stuff like that except between tiers if it's still outperforming stuff from next tier

[lament stump]

okay gotcha thx

first season fr

[bleak spoke]

hope you're enjoyin the game

[lament stump]

learning sub to have as another rogue spec to play

and its been like

https://tenor.com/view/asian-girl-brick-brick-throw-kill-gif-25574003

but other than sub being the way it is the game is good

plus i love to mog

[cinder bone]

I do in other peoples keys lol

[vocal cypress]

question; follow the sim suggestion or should i take the cape and get rid of my last champ piece?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nFnMTcMZ7sV2ryqqBSZKpf

[slim pebble]

Does ascendance not stack if it sin offhand

[novel star]

it does

[cinder bone]

Sub seems like the type of spec I would Hekili for (Hekili rocks with Outlaw)

[novel star]

but you can also just craft armor with the nerubian doubler thing

and get the same shit without having to waste a spark on offhand

[slim pebble]

I have no idea how this sim is working out then. 639 MH and 636 OH is Simming as a 10k dps loss vs what I have now

[lament stump]

if i do that sub chat will force me to go outlaw spec irl and pistol shot myself between the eyes

[cinder bone]

sub chat is all masochists

bring back Legion sub

[bleak spoke]

from my understanding hekili isn't great with off global inputs

[vocal cypress]

brilliant 😂

[cinder bone]

ah damn

[bleak spoke]

if it works for you it works though

i usually use it for a few hours at dummies after capping a new spec, but its more interesting than reading an apl usually

[cinder bone]

the old sub gameplay of just lining up dance and symbols and spamming evisc was so much better

[bleak spoke]

but it's also given me like misinformation before

[vocal cypress]

any1 have any input towards my question uwu

[bleak spoke]

i mean it comes with a socket right

[vocal cypress]

trying to finger out my vault selection q.q

[bleak spoke]

hard to pass that by imo

like

cloak is lowest value piece tbh

in terms of total stat

[vocal cypress]

yeah fair

[bleak spoke]

not that you know

waist is really high value

but like

[vocal cypress]

and rashman cape chance too

[bleak spoke]

yeh

[cinder bone]

yeah gotta take the socket i think

[vocal cypress]

i didnt realise how weighted socket was this season i guess

[bleak spoke]

if you take the cloak and you take rashnan cloak next week then you're perma mad

they aren't

[cinder bone]

^

[bleak spoke]

they're the weakest socketss have ever been

[vocal cypress]

ahh

[bleak spoke]

it's just the waist itself has more agi

[vocal cypress]

but cape just even worse

yeah

yeah point

like 400 500 more

agi over everything realistically

[cinder bone]

you'll get cape from your heroic cache this week anyway

[vocal cypress]

nah nah

we want it from mythic bb

[bleak spoke]

i have a 606 belt on cuz i'm waiting for the 90 crests yeah, it's got 2.1k agi and my 619 cloak has 1.7k

like

it's a lot more

LOL

[vocal cypress]

yeah sweet

cheers for the breakdown man

[lucid silo]

i macro transmitter to deathmark right?

[bleak spoke]

socket just makes the deal a bit sweeter

in the long run if the catalyst one is good you can catalyze it

if not you'll likely keep the piece for a long long time

catalyst piece is haste vers for belt, probably unlikely that it'd be much better

but regardless

[vocal cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-stephen-amell-thank-you-attention-gif-16192357

[bleak spoke]

do you actually play around the scroll of momentum btw

[vocal cypress]

nah i just havnt had any trink drop x.x

[bleak spoke]

oh it's just a passive proc

i thought it was the one you had to run around for

i think there's a delve trinket like that

[vocal cypress]

nah if ur got the stacks u get teh buff

it promotes sitting still

which i mean

u cant exactly do too much in any of the content

[bleak spoke]

wait when it says scaling up with current movement speed

can you pop sprint to make it hit hadrer

[vocal cypress]

yeah

and roar

[bleak spoke]

maybe on outlaw you could do something like that

[vocal cypress]

and totem

[bleak spoke]

but

[vocal cypress]

any speed increase

[bleak spoke]

i wouldn't just send sprint like that as sin LMFAO

[vocal cypress]

😂

[bleak spoke]

kinda cool that it rolled with speed though

[vocal cypress]

better hope theres a target nearby where u wanna go for the step

[bleak spoke]

LOL

wait movement speed meta gem actually owns

given the strikethrough gem is so negligible to begin with

LOL

[vocal cypress]

actually

i should probs adust my gems accordingly

for the meta gem to be better effective with the momentum 😂

probs negligible

[bleak spoke]

i think it's like usually within error whether or not meta gem condition is used, for the crit dmg one

so it's probably gonna be equally negligible

LOL

[vocal cypress]

yee

[bleak spoke]

but it's still kinda fun to look at

as a gear set

[vocal cypress]

definitely 😂

my gear set is only just gettign sorted from being like oh shit what spec do i play this season :'DS

[slim pebble]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/izuP3ozSRuMmXTnausmJSm

1.2 mil club now

[vocal cypress]

niceee

[bleak spoke]

+2% for flensing (which they still refuse to get rid of)

[keen spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-moar-more-i-want-more-mooaar-gif-23786940

[vocal cypress]

how do u think i feel sub-par-sin only tickling 1m's cheeks 😂

[gritty sundial]

Does anyone know why the rogue plater profiles are messing with friendly nameplates also?

[vocal cypress]

the whyspyr 1?

[bleak spoke]

they changed somethin today for sure i logged in and i could see the blizz friendly nameplates

scuffed

[gritty sundial]

All I've tried so far. I just want one that changes enemy nameplates and removes clutter/has pandemic windows

Any recommendations?

[slim pebble]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[gritty sundial]

Tbh they all have the same issue

I have tried them all half won't recognise the import string and the others mess with friendly nameplates

[cerulean nest]

what's a solid defensive usage on kyveza looking like? evasion for charges when possible

otherwise feint when out there for orbs?

cloak for intermission

[bleak spoke]

feint the impact of the queensbane when she picks you

that's 33% of the total dmg

of the dot

[cinder quartz]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
• While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[bleak spoke]

if you hit evasion you cover the shot and the whole dot

[cerulean nest]

okay nice

[bleak spoke]

when you send the bowling balls (the second shot), you feint

the other thing you can do is literally just feint for both

and hold evasion for intermission

and then you cloak the bottom of intermission when everyone gets lines

(assumin you're talking about mythic here)

[cerulean nest]

ye

one sec stioll pulliung

[scenic kiln]

is the wowhead tree for bloodbound okay for mythic

or shouyld i be taking other ct and other talents

instead of just relying on caustic

[novel star]

dont consider ct on any boss except mythic ovinax

tbh

i mean you can play it on court but its bleh

[scenic kiln]

ok

it felt like

i wasnt doing any cleave on ulgrax either

[ruby birch]

do i play sin or sub for court

[scenic kiln]

but maybe i shouldve just been rupturing instead of relying on caustic

[ruby birch]

we are not killing this week

most likely killing next week

does sub still beat sin for that after they fucking gut it up and down

[bleak spoke]

play whichever spec you'll feel sentimental about both are changing forever next week

if you like echoing reprimand and how it feels play sin, if you like shadowdust play sub

[ruby birch]

well

the issue isnt that

its just they're kinda deleting sub next week and idk if sin is any good at this fight

[bleak spoke]

sin probably better

[nimble ether]

What happening to ER?

[bleak spoke]

they're getting rid of it

[nimble ether]

No kiddingc

??

[ruby birch]

they're changing it

to something arguably better

[bleak spoke]

you can go on ptr wowhead and look at the talent tree and see what they're replacing it with

[nimble ether]

Yeah I read that they were replacing the talents but not removing it

[bleak spoke]

like basically shiv makes next 1/2 (one talent point each) cast with 2 extra cp value

but uh

that's not the same

i've grown to like the minigame

tbh

[nimble ether]

Don’t like that

[slim pebble]

One less button

A key bind for my wing buffet in a week

[runic hinge]

I would almost unbind tea too

[nimble ether]

So wait they’re completely removing echoing reprimand?

I’m confused I can’t find what I read before

[bleak spoke]

[nimble ether]

Is that a yes lol

Like as in it’s totally gone?

[bleak spoke]

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/talent-calc

[novel star]

replaced by something that functions similarly without the rng

but yeah

[nimble ether]

Wow so it’s just some passive that changes your mutilate to do more damage ?

Kinda don’t like that

[novel star]

shiv makes ur next few finishers act like they consumed +2/+3 cp

meaning

u just finish at 5/6/7cp like normal and it deals damage like 8/9/10

during shiv

[nimble ether]

Sounds like it might make damage happen faster ?

[cerulean nest]

you sure about this? lol

[nimble ether]

I just hope they keep the animation for ER lol

Sad about this

[scenic kiln]

is ther ea tree up for 11.0.5 yet

[nimble ether]

Yeah someone linked it above

[bleak spoke]

https://i.imgur.com/h4GQaos.png

have been watchin/analyzing my guild's prog the whole time

but yeh assassination is the shot, queensbane is the dot

when the nether rift starts the dots over on the first one

[cerulean nest]

alright well ive been trying to evasion it and i still get clapped and have the dot lol

[bleak spoke]

no like

you're playing elusiveness

and evasion wall on the deathstalker tree

you're using it as a magic dr for 40% basically

https://i.imgur.com/jS2zBVi.png

https://i.imgur.com/cfjyqOu.png

you don't not get the dot

you're just the person in the raid with the most powerful tools to deal with the intake in this fight

[cerulean nest]

yeah I didnt realize you were talking abotu the elusiveness/bs

makes more sense

[severe sparrow]

what's the best strat for ulgrax adds on mythic, just rupture and spatter on one?

[bleak spoke]

i imagine so, you're trying to beat people to the punch on them pretty much

faster your dmg comes out the better

[desert vault]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[shadow badger]

@balmy condor ETA for when the new guide is going live?

[balmy condor]

monday night/tuesday morning before patch

[strange python]

is this good for m+?

[severe sparrow]

if only we werent struggling on getting them down fast enough as is

[coral ibex]

my best simming passive trinket atm

in dungeon slice

[sullen mural]

Dungeon slice sim tho

Feel me

[coral ibex]

how else are you gonna sim for m+

[sullen mural]

No its the correct way

[rough lodge]

how can i create a thread for log review?

[sullen mural]

But that shit is also fake af at the same time

[cunning needle]

type !log

[rough lodge]

!log

[prisma monolith]

Wowanalyzer now has good initial support for Assassination. We suggest using it to quickly see any big rotational mistakes and analyze your ability usage

Link: https://wowanalyzer.com/

[sullen mural]

I never actually put that trinket in my sims tho

[severe sparrow]

lol

[sullen mural]

Maybe its time to check

[ancient tangle]

does elusivness's evasion bonus stack with feint on aoe to a +60% dr on aoe or is it 52% (40% then 20%)?

[digital ivy]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[severe sparrow]

i think you just put it here and ask, no?

for the log reviews

the log thing doesnt work in this channel

[cunning needle]

it used to make a thread

now i guess you put it in there

[sullen mural]

just post the log

we gotchu

[severe sparrow]

it still does in other channels afaik

[cunning needle]

probably for the best

[severe sparrow]

they have it set dif in here cuz it's like whispyr and one other person

[cunning needle]

yeah because its not supported for other specs or something

[balmy prism]

finally a good vault

[sullen mural]

Me and you both man me and you both

[balmy prism]

We slammin

[sullen mural]

I was so ready to take socket already

I was ready entire weak to slam the socket pick

[balmy prism]

it's blizzards anti-churn measures

[sullen mural]

Should have had leech as secondary might aswell

fraud vault

[balmy prism]

true

[rain wraith]

happy for u guys ❤️

[wind totem]

what to do with this

[sullen mural]

sim

[pliant remnant]

[pliant remnant]

LOOK AT WHAT I GOT GUYS

HEHEHE

x

[rough lodge]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MDWdmc4hbLFgfPRA

Can someone help me find my major areas of improvement? I'm just returning to the game this expac and was trying sub, I sucked at it according to parses, so I'm back to trying assa again. I used to be decent at it, but I tend to be in the blue range on heroic since my return

Things I'm aware of and (trying) to work on:

• Always using two shivs over kingsbane window
• Whether or not to hold anything for better line-ups (deathmark off CD, KB coming up in 15 seconds, trinket in 10 sec, is it worth holding everything and waiting? If trinket is off CD but abilities don't come off CD for another 30s, do I send anyway? etc.)

Ignore our queen progress, it's painful 😅

[pliant remnant]

BACK TO GRIM BATOL THIS WEEK EHEHE

[bright surge]

!macro

[sullen mural]

Any fight in specific

I aint looking through all of em

But yes, you always hold trinkets for deathmark

No reason not to

You dont wanna empower your mutilates with transmittr so just wait 30secs

DM and kingsbane should come up at the same time aswell so that isnt a problem

[scarlet wyvern]

dungeon slice is the most inaccurate sim you can use for M+

[rough lodge]

My best ST performance was probably Sikran, so that's me at my "best" tonight, but I'm struggling with Court as well

[torpid lion]

just you wait rashanan

[sullen mural]

Imagine you were locked in on those 99 logsd

would have been 100

[torpid lion]

nah 100 is for the cringe PI abusers

[coral ibex]

what do you use then

[torpid lion]

im a pure no aug no pi gamer

[sullen mural]

can u link warcraft logs i just wanna scim through

[torpid lion]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KGDThbA1XNWnf2z9#type=damage-done&fight=10 this was raid tongiht

[sullen mural]

Are you being sent on far add on bloodbound or nah

[torpid lion]

nah

[sullen mural]

Man i wish

I have to do that job

[torpid lion]

should be 2 ranged only really

[sullen mural]

I cant write that message

[torpid lion]

and a healer

[sullen mural]

you know what i was gonna say

Yeah ideally

but in low tier guilds u just send players u know wont die

so my job sadly

I cant escape 90 logging cuz no pad on aoe add

[cinder bone]

just had the snipers after 2nd boss in SoB bug out not leave

caused 8 deaths lmao

this is the buggiest season in the history of the game

[fallen arch]

Got it

[scarlet wyvern]

ritual knife still simming higher or ?

on 626

[covert tree]

halp

[barren epoch]

transmitter can be lit

[scarlet wyvern]

sim it

[rain wraith]

R#ing3s

[silk sundial]

Rip. Been trying to get this ring for my main rogue. Got it from the weekly chest on my lock

[soft drift]

Silly quiestion - do we try to keep 100% uptime of sanguine on single target?

Like, never go below 50 energy?

[sullen mural]

Ideally

[coral ibex]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[novel star]

opposite

sanguine blades is bad :D

[sullen mural]

I mean if u play fatebound and sanguin

u do

[coral ibex]

fatebound

[sullen mural]

On DM envenom>sanguine tho

DS*

[dusty skiff]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[soft drift]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/38#boss=2918&class=Rogue&spec=Assassination

Am I insane tho - this is pure ST and everybody is running snanguine with deathstalker

[sullen mural]

VV and Sanguine setups are so close in % to eachother

that it really doesnt matter all that much

But on rashan i can see sanguin value

[coral ibex]

people take sanguine bc they're running imp garrote builds

[sullen mural]

cuz that fucker Flies around so much

and u get free dmg

trust

[cunning needle]

if you take VV, you ignore pooling to only 50% right?

[torpid lion]

and you get the high execute uptime on ur bleeds

[sullen mural]

Just read whats written here

[golden loom]

You get a lot of blindside procs so VV has a lot of value also on rashanan right

[torpid lion]

i run VV

but i kinda hate it

[sullen mural]

Idk your just not casting enough envenoms on silken

I just checked my log on silken court and killed the boss 1 min earlier than you but casted more envenoms

Also 6 kingsbanes in a 7 min fight even if waiting for dmg amp phases i think u should be able to fit atleast 7

[vagrant tapir]

at high enough crit/mast, does vers become a high value stat for us? Looking at the wowhead guide I'm surprised to see they recommend at 5 tier pieces, I would have figured a crit/mast chest would be better or even the haste/mast one from CoT

[sullen mural]

just sim it

there is no "at this stat threshhold does X stat become more valuable"

[cunning needle]

there is when you run 0% haste

[vagrant tapir]

that's sort of exactly how your stats work

[cunning needle]

oooops

[vagrant tapir]

that just doesn't translate to "use stat weights to determine your gear"

[echo talon]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[vagrant tapir]

regardless, im not talking about my own stats, im talking about the guide

[shy creek]

If you take a look at the highest mythidc+ players, very few of them go all 5, yes

some*

[sullen mural]

You just start simming random items and see if they would be better

or for m+ even more so a high vers item cuz survivability

[vagrant tapir]

yeah, seems like an odd recommendation

[shy creek]

No I miswrote, most of them do, but some of them do swap out a piece for another

https://murlok.io/rogue/assassination/mm+

Can take a look

[sullen mural]

Whisp is cooking

im scared

[bleak spoke]

guys i think

i might have ruined eveyrone's life

[scarlet wyvern]

trash vault

[bleak spoke]

[shy creek]

neck not that bad, no?

[scarlet wyvern]

maybe, gotta sim i guess

[cunning needle]

fuck you ❤️

[balmy condor]

hi, guide writer here

I don't care enough about the bis list to optimize it because the people who can make use of the bis list don't need it, and the people who look at the bis list don't need to know which tier piece to unequip cause they're gonna ignore grabbing myth track tier pieces cause chest = bad, so the entire gear page is designed to be:

1. SEO fodder for google
2. "Get high item level obvious items"
8. Actually useful information

[cunning needle]

go step on a lego

[hexed frost]

My entire luck of the season ran out in a single vault

(this is my 4th hc regicide)

[balmy condor]

Can a different chest be 0.2% better? Sure it can

[shy creek]

SEO fodder #1 is so funny LMFAO

[bleak spoke]

every time i step on a leggo i will think of u

[balmy condor]

I mean that's literally it

you got 65 year old boomers hammering "assa rogue bis" into fucking google

and wowhead as a company

[slate crown]

Sixty five

[balmy condor]

requires clicks

for ad rev

so if there isn't a page that says ASSA ROGUE BIS in big shiny letters

[drifting cloud]

why am I getting called out again

[balmy condor]

google will simply not recommend it

[shy creek]

do u get paid at all for wowhead guide writing

[balmy condor]

ofc

[sullen mural]

okay they aint that big

[shy creek]

figured it was out of the kindness of ur heart

LOL

[solar bough]

Does Deathmark duplicate existing bleeds and envenoms OR does it duplicate anything cast AFTER it is on the target?

[balmy condor]

no

[vagrant tapir]

Ah ok, interesting

its just out of sync with how the rest of the current wowhead gear guides are written so it stood out

[balmy condor]

wowhead is a full on company that makes a gross amount of money and spends that money maintaining a reputation of hiring writers that know what they're talking about

[spice spire]

Counterpoint

Jez

Who’s paid to shitpost

[crisp stream]

i have equipped 606 skardyns and 619 Queen, as per sims its asking me to replace queen and pick Arakara trink for ST. but as per M+ sims, Ara kara trink is not even showing as improvement, im confused what to pick

[split maple]

not untrue

[drifting cloud]

counterpoint, darkest night

[spice spire]

That’s ur boss big dog

[scarlet wyvern]

my sim tells me to take the helmet and convert it into TIER piece

[torpid lion]

rash is next

[split maple]

not mine

[slate crown]

u got a worm in your future

[hot tiger]

Sacbrood sims as a dps loss vs a detachable fang of the same level v patchwerk.. maybe because I have a stupid amount of haste?

[spice spire]

Fuck it says IV

I thought I fucking got someone

Damn

[split maple]

[scarlet spade]

Is it worth running the cleave build for ansurek

With the adds and such

[balmy condor]

yeah, I'm trying my best to prevent absolute dumbfucks from pigeonholing themselves into a corner

If you notice, the crafted gear on the gear list is haste/mast, but everywhere I write to craft with crit/mast. People that read the guide will intuitively understand that the secondaries don't matter cause I tell them to sim themselves and all the crit and shit is whatever and secondaries and close and change and blahblahblblahblalahblahbalh. But the people that open bis list, look at item, and then craft based on that? Those are the fucking apes that I need to bubble wrap for, so I hide shit like that, expecting them to be idiots

writing guides

is legit just a race to the bottom

[weary spear]

what flask yall using for m+ and raiding?

[balmy condor]

with me trying to be dumber than the dumbest person on the internet

[spice spire]

Chaos

[shy creek]

summed up guide writing pretty well

[vagrant tapir]

fair point

[spice spire]

I’ll always win king

[shy creek]

not dumb enough to write guide, has to write guide for person dumber than them

[vagrant tapir]

guide writing guide

[shy creek]

ngl reminds me of teaching

[split maple]

$1,000,000 idea

[vagrant tapir]

ngl is literal teaching

[shy creek]

u know the material, so u don't know where people are getting a question wrong, but ur also too smart to know what the fuck they could get wrong when u make the material

[crisp stream]

any suggestions on this

[balmy condor]

the amount of times I've written something in an article and then went "ah, they probably don't know what X is, this is too smart"

[shy creek]

how do u feel about making a personal blog to write the nuances for ur own sanity

im still trying to make it thru ur two hour assass video

LOL

[spice spire]

Ara Kara or gloves seem like the only pickable items

Iirc bone isn’t that great

[balmy condor]

with what time my dog

[shy creek]

well in general, not that im asking u too

[balmy condor]

how many hours in a day

[split maple]

"You want to be Berserking at nearly all times" -> immediately "Shit...I've gotta link the Berserking explanation because otherwise they won't know core class mechanics "

[sullen mural]

Sir, those are wrists

[balmy condor]

I mean I would love to

[runic hinge]

69 hours a day

[balmy condor]

educating is good and fun

[balmy prism]

How do you guys parse so high on bloodbound? Our adds always die in a few seconds, don't even have time to get bleeds up most of the time

[balmy condor]

big fan

I do not have the time for that

[spice spire]

Oh then there’s one absolute item to take

[balmy condor]

and I do not get paid enough

[split maple]

^ pay this man more

[shy creek]

ill give him 32 gold in WoW

best i can do

[balmy condor]

if I could quit my day job to do content creation for a couple years and then ride off into the sunset, sure

but guide writing for profit

ain't happenin

[balmy prism]

always dumb shit down as far as possible

[crisp stream]

i guess ara kara is the only option as i already have the hc verion of the wrist socketed

[shy creek]

its good to dumb things down, but also idk how to improve feel like ive read whisypr's guide 23 times

parsing 80 but cant'

figure out where to go higher so i just figure things out as i go

[balmy condor]

problem is you gotta also make people think you're just a bit smarter than the reader

[balmy prism]

Oh I'm an analyst I know

[sullen mural]

Hit buttons harder

[balmy prism]

my job is making dumb people think they're smart

[shy creek]

fuckkkk why didnt i think of that

[balmy prism]

parsing is more about group comp and time to kill than your own performance

[sullen mural]

yeah kill time plays a big part

[balmy prism]

like ovinax, if you dont have any DKs to grip in adds you ain't parsing above a 50

or whatever

[sullen mural]

if half ur raid is grey logging like gg

[shy creek]

we have 3 raid buffs in my raid

[balmy prism]

I wish they'd normalize parses for kill times

[keen rover]

Idk about that

[shy creek]

arcane intellect

priest word stamina

and evoker buff

we got nothin else!

[balmy prism]

makes no sense not to

[slate crown]

Correct.

[torpid lion]

the way to parse

is to big pump

das what i do

[keen rover]

I think dps parses are pretty on point. Sure, youre not getting no 100s, but its about how you keep up with your rotation while doing mechanics.

[slate crown]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-hmm-pepehmm-table-council-gif-16396395487368552941

[primal egret]

sorry if this has been asked before but im curious, how much should I be optimizing around sanguine blades?

[sullen mural]

!pooling

[prisma monolith]

Read About Pooling
TLDR:Maintain max uptime on Envenom

• For Fatebound, Sanguine Blades is typically much better than Deathstalker. For this reason, if you can't maintain Envenom uptime anymore, you should build combo points, then reset your energy back to around 70% before maintaining again.
• For Deathstalker, try to stay under 50% as much as possible while maxing out Envenom uptime. Single target builds play Vicious Venoms instead of Sanguine Blades as well.

The reason we do this is to maximize uptimes and use energy more efficiently for Deathstalker marks/cooldowns. Staying under 50% leads to more Envenom casts, which is more Darkest Night Procs. For Fatebound, heads flips contribute damage regardless of if you're flipping or not, so this pressure to keep spending is lessened.

[oak tangle]

why would you enjoy yourself playing games, when you can spend 100% of ur time writing how to paly the game, so when you dream you can dream of palying the game, instead of having time in your day to play it

[balmy prism]

Yeah, fair enough, but they're also competition, would make sense to even the palying field as much as possible on individual logs

or rather dick-measuring contests

[primal egret]

So I shouldn't even talent into it if im playing deathstalker correct?

[keen rover]

I do on some fights

[sullen mural]

the 2 builds are really close to eachother dmg wise just play what you prefer

[coral ibex]

i think you have to take it if you take imp garrote and shrouded, so an m+ build

[slate crown]

when I dream ping ping ping ping ping ping

[oak tangle]

i see, a fellow person whose left and right hands aren't in sync with each other and thus we type palying erry time

[keen rover]

Eh I like to see that Im doing well enough to be part of a team and not holding anyone back

[torpid lion]

might fuck around and go fatebound and hit some 99s to show people they can play either

[oak tangle]

they did prospecting so dirty

i felt it was worth nothing this tier

[slate crown]

my friend

[sullen mural]

Why u aiming for 99 only fraud

[slate crown]

prospecting is worth everything

[torpid lion]

cause im a no PI gamer

100 is for the PI getters

[oak tangle]

made millions in DF from diamonds

how you making millions prospecting this shit

[sullen mural]

all 3 no pi just lock in

i belive

[oak tangle]

some long winded conversion to the crystal gemstones?

[vocal cypress]

am i right in assuming basically every boss in ST talent set except broodtwister oviaries when i take CS?

[crisp stream]

Quick question, Does mandate become better than ara kara trinket if we time the cd? or all cases Ara kara is better ? wanted to know for both raid and m+

[vocal cypress]

or is CS still worth taking for ulgrax and add intermissions

[oak tangle]

spyglass is ur friend

[vocal cypress]

(most bosses have some sorta add)

[sullen mural]

Its the complete opposite

u can just take CS on all fights if you are too lazy to swap off it

but u want cs everywhere but Princess/sikran

[vocal cypress]

yea

[sullen mural]

prob not rashan either unless tanks pull add in

[vocal cypress]

yeah ok

thats what i been doing princess sik and rashman

[crisp stream]

So Spyglass and skardyns are the go to in all scenarios ye?

[golden loom]

Myth track bracers being the best thing in my vault but cant force myself to take a socket so they will have to do

[sullen mural]

but if u lazy af just take CS on all

you dont lose that much st

[oak tangle]

i tihnk that arakara is better in ST but not by alot, but most fights have cleave

and yeah regarding to CS, the st swap of that talent really doesn't do alot, it just does more than CS on ST, any time you add in some adds... its better to go CS

[vocal cypress]

shweet

[somber sparrow]

does bubblimng wax being 0.5% of damage sound right https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/z87gw4dBHVFLQDRm#fight=32&type=damage-done&source=5

[balmy condor]

yeh

[oak tangle]

1.78% ofm y damage on kyveza was internal bleeding

[somber sparrow]

i suppose that's 1/3 the damage of internal bleeding

[slate crown]

Yes.

[somber sparrow]

i was also testing out heroic wrathstone in our heroic raid, seemed to be pretty good

[sullen mural]

isnt that just transmitter

[runic hinge]

Can I borrow some gold

[somber sparrow]

crit instead of haste, and no minigame

😄

[sullen mural]

Yeah i was just asking cuz u said it seems to be pretty good

[oak tangle]

bubbling wax did 0.63% on the same fight

[somber sparrow]

interesting, so one can presume it's always going to be about 1/3 the damage that internal bleeding does

[sullen mural]

Crazy to see how ass internal bleeding is

thats a choicenode and competing with CS

gl man

[late panther]

whats up with skardyns vs transmitter

[oak tangle]

20k is 20k in single target

[somber sparrow]

vs zero caustic damage because single target

[late panther]

i have 626 transmitter rn have myth skardyn in vault but even maxed 639 it sims worse its still considered bis?

[torpid lion]

let caustic splash off our character man

[somber sparrow]

i bet it's because primary stat is technically better, but you have to perform tasks which might actually lose you performance that a sim doesn't really have to do?

[torpid lion]

just let it

[sullen mural]

Doesnt the sim almost insta complete it when you send it with dm

Something like that Whispyr said a few days ago i dont remember

[somber sparrow]

so realistically nobody is going to be that good

[sullen mural]

Ask him he might know

nvm found it

[late panther]

🤔

i mean fk transmitter tho makes me wanna neck everytime

xD

[sullen mural]

I mean yeah the minigame can be annoying sometimes

[ancient pendant]

they broke oil

again

[late panther]

was just wondering if i should pick myth tier helm over the myth skardyns

[ancient pendant]

idk why the fuck this devs

can't just STOP

every 2-3 days

they break oil

why the fuck my class can use oil for 2 days of the week

[sullen mural]

Dont think u ever should

2nd boss drops a helmet which u can in theory farm every week

[somber sparrow]

plenty of things to catalyze into a helm, hard to acquire a mythic skardyns if you ask me

[sullen mural]

meanwhile skarn actually has to be in vault out of 3 slots

[late panther]

mmh

ig

[sullen mural]

unless u need the power real bad

[late panther]

ye we doing 4/8 myth atm

[sullen mural]

but we all know how that would go

You would pick the helmet

and next bloodhound kill

it drops with socket+leech

[late panther]

ahhaha

[sullen mural]

and then you are never in raid again coincidently

I wont say why

[worthy surge]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[balmy condor]

how

[ancient pendant]

it says: item is much higher ilvl

[balmy condor]

[ancient pendant]

it's like a joke right now

2 days it works

2 days broken

and then again 2 days it works

2 days broken

[subtle tundra]

oil or wax?

[ancient pendant]

wax

[subtle tundra]

you said oil

[ancient pendant]

rogue class oil

i meant

[upper wraith]

Oily wax

[ancient pendant]

sorry for mistake bros

meant only wax

[slow tulip]

diddy's oil for rogues

🫣

[bleak spoke]

uh i might have some bad news for you about the trinkets soon enough

you uh

tehre's a non 0 chance you might need both

[upper wraith]

I always wax off

[heady anvil]

Would you guys take myth track catalyst material (head/shoulders) over HC Ansurek ring?

[drifting cloud]

hell no

[bleak spoke]

i wouldn't

[ancient pendant]

ahahaha

[bleak spoke]

i would snap take the ansurek ring

[ancient pendant]

ragebait moment

[bleak spoke]

LOL

[halcyon arch]

I just got spyglass in myth track

[ancient pendant]

gratz!

[halcyon arch]

But I alreayd have sacbrood in myth track

[bleak spoke]

use both

[halcyon arch]

already*

[bleak spoke]

[ancient pendant]

got arakara

second week

[fast mural]

What should i pick guys ?

[solar orbit]

Head with socket vs head with tertiary?

[cunning needle]

trinky

you can always get a dagger from raid

[fast mural]

Still a month no dagger 😦

[cunning needle]

unluggy

we got a 3rd

went for xmog

[sullen mural]

i mean just craft one no

[fast mural]

I have a crafted one, but 639 op

[earnest remnant]

frfr missing that 10-14k dps

[cunning needle]

yeah its like 1% dps inc

kinda big but also not

[winged sun]

Coreect correct

Hi stealthi

Did u hear

Im an assa player now

[golden loom]

I made my first dagger with awful mats, so need to re-craft it to rank 4 -> then re-craft it again to best mats cba

[fickle siren]

guys, I have a mythic Sureki Zealot in my vault and the wowhead assa guide says its bis neck, but its haste heavy and proc vers. why is it bis and some other mastery heavy neck from m+?

[earnest remnant]

its like a normal neck

• some extra on top

that would be why

[sullen mural]

because it has green text

[earnest remnant]

and assa kinda likes all stats

so

[fickle siren]

oh I see

[earnest remnant]

this might come as a surprise, but i still play sub

[winged sun]

Not a surprise

Sub isnt that bad

[earnest remnant]

the way sub is tuned, makes me wanna punch my monitor

[sullen mural]

Do it

[earnest remnant]

only fight where i feel like my dmg has an impact is silken court

[winged sun]

U wanna try outlaw? U never feel an impact anywhere

[earnest remnant]

and thats purely because we are the only class in the game with flexible enough cds to hit almost all of the dmg amps

[sullen mural]

How miserable is sub in m+

[earnest remnant]

and thats gone in 1 week so

[winged sun]

[earnest remnant]

try it and find out

[winged sun]

Its shit

In m+

[sullen mural]

I think i rather

[winged sun]

very bad

[earnest remnant]

pussy

[sullen mural]

do a lot of other things

than spec sub and go mü

m+

[spice surge]

Think of deathstalker as assa

If darkest night envenom didnt cleave

How fun that feels

[winged sun]

Assa is so op rn

[sullen mural]

Think i rather play outlaw with season 4 gear

than sub in keys

[winged sun]

Based

Sub sucks balls

[earnest remnant]

you forget that 20% main stat steroid for just doing regular shit

and we have got TORNADO

[winged sun]

[spice surge]

Deathstalker sims like 15% ahead of trickster in dslice for sub

Yet the people still playing dont want to play it, theyd rather play trickster

[winged sun]

Why

[sullen mural]

But 35% black powder buff

cope

[spice surge]

Because it blows to play

[bleak spoke]

tbh bring back shuriken combo

it would be fine rn

25% ain't that much

[winged sun]

[cunning needle]

evis hits for poop anyway

[slow tulip]

how so 🤔

[winged sun]

I miss when outlaw was the strongest in the game s3 df

[sullen mural]

i dont

[earnest remnant]

see you in two years, when it happens again

[winged sun]

I destroyed kush in everbloom and his ego got crushed

[spice surge]

#assassination message

[earnest remnant]

once every 2 expacs

[winged sun]

Its fine, it was the most fun i’ve had in wow

[earnest remnant]

least fun i had

for quite a while

i almost quit the game

[sullen mural]

I hate ace

[earnest remnant]

[earnest timber]

does feint work on mythic kyveza? for dashes

[winged sun]

Ace good

[sullen mural]

fuck ace

[bleak spoke]

the questin you should be askin is does cheat work on mythic nexus princess

[earnest remnant]

without elusiveness no

but cloak works on the debuff

[earnest remnant]

it actually does

i played on our reclear

[bleak spoke]

and the answer is yes, if you heal fast enough after cheating

you can soak the reaper hit cuz it's 10m

[winged sun]

U diecotherwise

[bleak spoke]

and you have 85% drr

but then you ask the question of how did you get in that position

[winged sun]

We want elusiveness+cheat death

Make that dream happen guys its possible

We need dr

[earnest remnant]

I just play Cheat on that fight

i cloak the charges

so no orb debuff

and intermission is not hard to survive as a rogue

[winged sun]

Ask for cheat+elusiveness, rogue is so un tanky

[bleak spoke]

i mean mages have 3 shields 2 drs and cheat idk

[slow tulip]

can't w8 for next weeks QoL changes

[bleak spoke]

also how do you classify alter

[winged sun]

Rogue has to be the hardest class to live on in the game

[bleak spoke]

[winged sun]

In m+ specifically

[bleak spoke]

yeh

[earnest remnant]

ehh

[sullen mural]

Get a dot

gg

[bleak spoke]

idk

[earnest remnant]

dont think that true

[winged sun]

U need to press feint

[earnest remnant]

there are worse things to play

[bleak spoke]

^

[winged sun]

Gcd

Whats worse than that?

[slow tulip]

dps and hard in one sentence

[bleak spoke]

i mean you don't have to you can probably press evasion

[earnest remnant]

gcd gone in 1 week zeross

think about that

[winged sun]

Oh true

[earnest remnant]

free real estate

[winged sun]

Its fixed then

[bleak spoke]

if you're sin you have unlimited energy in most pulls

[earnest timber]

Does feint work on the explosion after dashes?

Or am I just COOKED

[slow tulip]

no more ANLAAAGI

[earnest timber]

I don't feel the DR from AOE on feint for it, just curious.

[earnest remnant]

dont think it does

[earnest timber]

Not trying to feely craft

[bleak spoke]

@earnest timber i think the best thing that happens with feint is when you're talented into elusiveness while getting picked, you 40% stuff like nexus rift etc

[earnest remnant]

need elusiveness

[bleak spoke]

and also you get the 20% dr on the stalking shadows

[earnest remnant]

if you wanna feint charges + orbs

[bleak spoke]

but also from when you get shot for queensbane to the last tick it's 9 seconds so you cover the whole thing with evasion

[earnest remnant]

anyways just cloak the charge, fuck going out with orbs

miss me with that shit

back to the boss we go

[earnest timber]

Yeah, I've been cloaking middle charge

[earnest remnant]

just cloak any you get

[gusty bone]

Worth to pick Mad Queen's Mandate Heroic Version if i have Alrdy this? https://imgur.com/2p2aFdN For M+ or Raid?

[earnest remnant]

you can only get 1 per phase

[bleak spoke]

tbh if you can live the last blazes in the intermission without much help (and tbh as a rogue you can) that's valid

[modest gale]

suicide?

[bleak spoke]

does that delve trinket really not share a cooldown with other trinkets

[earnest timber]

Yeah, just curious about how to spread out my defensives for Nexus princess

[bleak spoke]

i've been told that

[earnest remnant]

Cloak charges
Feint suck if its scary healing wise

Feint every other regicide

[queen narwhal]

sacrbrood or spyglass?

[latent olive]

hey guys assa dungeon slice is accurate on sim?

[earnest remnant]

or just when low on health

[queen narwhal]

mythic plus content

[bleak spoke]

yeh that's the thing it's like our defensives are really proactive

[earnest remnant]

like if you are full health and regicide is on you

[bleak spoke]

if it's already scary it's like almost too late

kinda

[earnest remnant]

you dont need to press anything at all

oh and also

[latent olive]

hey guys assa dungeon slice is accurate on sim?(sorry for spam)

[earnest remnant]

use HP/stone in the intermissions

only time they are gonna get used anyway

[queen narwhal]

which one to get?

[earnest remnant]

so if you are sub 60% when regicide is on you

chuck that shit

[bleak spoke]

i think i haven't seen a single log pretty much where we're not like pretty much lowest on dmg taken

[bleak spoke]

sim it tbh, but personally i like how spyglass feels because you can actually feel crit and it amkes a nice sound when it procs

also i'm very nostalgic for bfa

[earnest remnant]

yes

[bleak spoke]

stealthi are you sub on nexus princess or sin

[latent olive]

ty

[earnest remnant]

i was

[bleak spoke]

i swear exhilirating execution just so crazy

[midnight mist]

no wae i keep getting this shit in vault

[earnest remnant]

now im banging my head against silken court

[bleak spoke]

ah

[earnest remnant]

coulda died last night

[spice surge]

The +8% healing is a lot better in raid

[earnest remnant]

but we fucked up the last dispel

[modest gale]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[bleak spoke]

like could have died and y'all would have gotten a vacation or could have killed it legit

oh killed it legit

ah

unlucky

god i hope the ppl who bugged it out get a vacation

[earnest remnant]

yeah we do not delve the "clever use of game mechanics" antics

[bleak spoke]

or at least their lockouts reset if they're tryna extend off that or something

[modest gale]

should i take this chest?

[bleak spoke]

that shit is egregious

like there is no way

you kill silken from 50%

and think

this is normal for boss to not do anything

[earnest remnant]

we had the boss at 16% charge is done right

only need dispels

we fuck'd up

rip

[bleak spoke]

pumpy!

do you go like trickster sub on that fight

for 2t

[earnest remnant]

yeah

[bleak spoke]

ahh that sounds fun

tbh i resubbed to the game when i read the trickster hero talents, i was like this is so sick

if only it worked like how they said

[earnest remnant]

this is the 2nd charge dmg amp

[bleak spoke]

mans is doin dmg from the next tier

on that

are they private logs or can i go peep them

[earnest remnant]

private

[bleak spoke]

yeh this early on it's hard to find entertainment on wcl

[bleak spoke]

it's crazy if you see something like this on dmg amp you'd assuming someone had sent a lingering darkness madqueens that crit or something

but

it's just trickster pog

[tranquil stirrup]

So, without improved garrot we dont use Vanish anymore during DM ? Just spam env?

[golden loom]

Ye u kinda get to save vanish for if mark somehow dissapears

[tranquil stirrup]

Good to know, kinda missed that

[earnest remnant]

like this one?

[runic hinge]

You are assa one trick it is ok

[tropic jewel]

Hey guys, would u rather take HC -> Myth Track Gloves or this Chest (Could aquire gloves also throught mythic raid)

[runic hinge]

does momentum of despair snapshot?

[candid saffron]

623 sacrbood or 623 helm with socket? for assa m+