#assassination

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indigo comet
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
spare flame
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!up

prisma monolithBOT
little tulip
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i think sanguine is prly comfier, really excited to test it tomorrow after doing vicious venoms all week. not that anyone asked. peepohappy

royal python
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Yup, I got mythic one, 4 million+ consistent burst on fatebound

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Single targ

spice spire
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On huh

icy crater
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I think I go myth track legs with tertiary over myth sac brood and keep using myth spyglass. And prayge for db trinket eventually

cerulean walrus
slim pebble
spice spire
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Why are we optimizing 0.x% on trinkets when we’re losing x% on hero targets

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That’s wild stuff

cerulean walrus
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Homeboy is passing up sacbrood lmao

spice spire
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Fatebound in the year of our lord 2024

cerulean walrus
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Fatebound is so fucking bad now LMAO

spice spire
dapper cradle
slate crown
little tulip
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our battlegroup's best rogue is outlaw

cerulean walrus
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(The sac)

spice spire
royal python
icy crater
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sacbrood is equal to or dps loss in every scenario on my character (skardyn's/myth spyglass)

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But spyglass feels doggy idk

spice spire
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Is that with max upgrade on sac

cerulean walrus
spice spire
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Not trying to convince, just trying to make sure all information is taken into account!

slate crown
spice spire
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If it makes sense to not take it over another item, you’re 100% right

royal python
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N with delivered doom buff, fatebound going to smash

icy crater
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For sure, it's not. I set them equal at 629. I'll try again at 639

spice spire
wispy marsh
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Stuck between these 2, say's Sureki is a 4k dps loss. Is the effect not that good? I noticed when simming is says it only gives 380 vers vs the 791 ingame.

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spice spire
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Wait LE which realm are you (trying to find a solid crafter on a52)

spice spire
cerulean walrus
spice spire
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It is our best possible

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But it gives a lot of haste

slate crown
spice spire
spice spire
cerulean walrus
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Yeah very rare my nuts

spice spire
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I might

cerulean walrus
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Farmable from heroic raid lmao

grim jay
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raid is the definition of not farmable

cerulean walrus
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Yeah but it’s heroic bro

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Shit’s piss

grim jay
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do you have multiple hero IDs?

spice spire
cerulean walrus
grim jay
cerulean walrus
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Absolutely massive

spice spire
grim jay
spice spire
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Honestly you should

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Best sleep I’ve had in years the last two days

cerulean walrus
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But I’m already in it quake

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Wtf is this?

lethal arrow
grim jay
cerulean walrus
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Sick neck SMILERS

lethal arrow
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its gunna be the neck isnt t

cerulean walrus
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Yeah

lethal arrow
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i actually am about to lose mastery on this too ugh

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mythic trailspinner was too much to ask

nimble ether
scenic nacelle
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!egg

woeful galleon
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fuck I cant pick help pls

thick juniper
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spyglass

dreamy parcel
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Do we get another catalyst charge today??

woeful galleon
little tulip
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no that's next week

woeful galleon
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these are my patchwerk and ds sims tho

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does spyglass really just make the rotation smoother?

spice spire
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Also sorry for your loss (being a titans fan)

grim jay
split willow
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If I’m opening on an aoe pack with tricks, should I garrote before ambush so more targets aggro on the tank instead of me?

woeful galleon
# grim jay no

you think its more rare than the chest piece from grim batol?

muted portal
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
grim jay
little tulip
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honestly next goal is a 636 crafted dagger

woeful galleon
spice spire
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If the answer is yes and it’s reasonable to hit then yes you can launch with garrote

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But tricks is irrelevant

quartz cloak
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@woeful galleon Generally trinkets are more unique and it doesn’t matter too much what chest you got, especially when you catalyst them. But sim tells another story

spice spire
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That’s just opener logic

grim jay
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I wouldnt be able to personally judge anything for myself

grim jay
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every single slot has the same odds

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on every single item

ember orchid
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is there anything better than sudden demise in m+?

grim jay
spice spire
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If you mean to swap to

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Probably not

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Because 10% bleed buff

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Is also good

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Even if you’re in a double sin rogue group and the other is 10 ilvl above you

quartz cloak
# grim jay thats generally wrong

How is that wrong? There is one specific trinket one aim for but multiple chest pieces with similar stats especially if you want to catalyze them so it’s more likely to get any chest that fits

grim jay
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and you dont necessarily want any other chest

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or catalyze it

quartz cloak
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Maybe you want and then it’s true

grim jay
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sure if you just wanna catalyze for no reason

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it is true

hollow talon
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where ritual knife

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little tulip
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i mean odds are 10's are gonna be farmable by the weekend, you're gonna find another myth track chest pretty quick

grim jay
spice spire
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They already are farmable aren’t they

grim jay
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and they are farmable since 2 weeks

little tulip
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it took 41 runs to get a champ track dagger but also got champ track sac on first ara kara

spice spire
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I mean I just now had relevant ilvl

little tulip
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speaking as a pug doing person

spice spire
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Same

cerulean walrus
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Yeah

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10s have been farmable for a while in pugs

spice spire
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I do guild groups too but my guild groups are often

grim jay
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puggable since 2 weeks aswell

spice spire
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Two rogues and a hance shaman

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So certain dungeons = death

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Looking at you ara Kara final boss

cerulean walrus
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Socket week lets GOOOOOO

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We love sockets

little tulip
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yeah anyone with some integrity can time a 9 in 615

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you know what i mean

grim jay
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because I took transmitter in case sub looks good next patch

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but it seemingly doesnt at all

cerulean walrus
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Hindsight is a bitch

grim jay
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well its not like the socket will do too much for now ig

little tulip
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fun anecdote, invited a 620 shammywow to a +8 ara kara twice. panicked both times and depleted the key dispelling acid waves on arak last. ++9'd it with some chads yesterday.

zenith tree
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First ever mythic vault and I get a ring :(

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lethal arrow
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welcome to the club

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zenith tree
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Idk if it even counts for my free upgrades on rings since the other one I have is my higher of the two I have equipped (if that even makes sense)

peak saffron
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how do we feel about the oni'vax trinket

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ovi'nax

lethal arrow
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think its still kinda poop even with the buffs

grim jay
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its poop to play with

scenic nacelle
royal lantern
slate crown
neat eagle
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can anyone told which embelishment is best for assa rogue on dagger?

spice sentinel
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assuming 626 sac and 626 transmitter, you guys taking 639 sac or 639 skardyn? sims showing 639 sac and transmitter ahead in st, 639 skardyn ahead in aoe/m+. Will probably have some competition for mythic transmitter so not guaranteed that if it drops.

zenith prairie
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Ascension

normal mist
vast loom
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so in m+ with only 1 stack of shiv, i should be getting 1 use between KBs right?

normal mist
spice spire
prisma monolithBOT
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Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

woven shore
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+8 dawn

neat eagle
woven shore
normal mist
spice surge
neat eagle
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i do

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i know

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i have one 609 and 564

little tulip
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just remembered the parakeet in the chocolate fountain

spice surge
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it doesnt matter, the difference between embellishments are like 0.2%

royal lantern
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700k dk?

400k warlock ?????????????????????

woven shore
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idk

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sleeping

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ramdom +8

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for crests

royal lantern
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warlock pulling Dragonflight numbers

woven shore
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if it wasnt for me

royal lantern
woven shore
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we wouldnt have made it

spice spire
solar orbit
royal lantern
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it makes near 0 difference

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we talk about like what? 0,1%?

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embelishments in TWW are just not strong

normal mist
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Dawnthread can still be a bit more optimal in m+ than asce due to how asce works no

pale wave
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what debuff do you track to keep up when pooling?

feral wasp
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ladz, did necrotic wake got nerfed in eu or will it take effect following tomorrows patch ?

spice spire
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Patch

spice spire
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You also want to keep bleeds up

feral wasp
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Thank you, then i won't even try my +12 key given that I couldn't even complete a +10

willow eagle
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
naive stump
strange python
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@balmy condor will you trade me Mountain Dew promotion things when they come out dv_pepeBlushKnitOwO

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I’ll bring you monster when ur in Germany next year

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Loads of monster mrow

normal mist
naive stump
thorn fjord
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Help

grim jay
dapper cradle
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myth legs or gloves are both pog

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crystal is kinda stinky doodoo

nova aspen
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??

thorn fjord
nova aspen
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crystal is good

thorn fjord
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Crystal is good

dapper cradle
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nah

normal mist
thorn fjord
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Sim says highest value is the mythic pants tho

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rip

grim jay
dapper cradle
thorn fjord
dapper cradle
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i'm hard stuck on my vet track skardyns as well

nova aspen
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since u raid mythic i would pass on the pants, so its crystal or glove

thorn fjord
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15 runs in havent seen it drop once

grim jay
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but not hands

thorn fjord
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Might have to hold till after we reclear mythic

nova aspen
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but i personally dont like mandate

nova aspen
grim jay
nova aspen
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doesnt look like hes killed 4th

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so

grim jay
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but hands are 3rd

nova aspen
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im just going by what he has been able to do so far

thorn fjord
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We're on brood

rotund oak
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its very hard to understand the german spirit of economy for a german PogO

thorn fjord
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I think i take the crystal tbh

nova aspen
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why didnt u get 2nd myth slot then?

grim jay
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would do the same

dapper cradle
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crystal is bait bro

thorn fjord
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Its the hardest piece to get out of the 4

grim jay
grim jay
thorn fjord
rotund oak
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im sry

dapper cradle
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ah, I didn't know you play sub too

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crystal is actually pretty good for sub

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might be the move

thorn fjord
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Its BiS for sub iirc

dapper cradle
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send crystal then for sure

thorn fjord
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Gonna sit on it for now

dapper cradle
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but yeah reclear and see what happens

grim jay
cursive flicker
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Is bubbling wax better than whetstones in raid?

grim jay
rotund oak
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and it was a bait tira didnt bite

grim jay
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that somnius guy cant read guides nor sim pages

rotund oak
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need to apply stronger kungfu

grim jay
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and thinks he knows it all

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tough luck

grim jay
dapper cradle
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seething lmao

rotund oak
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certified brainrot

spice spire
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Why is there sexual tension in here

lethal arrow
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brbr changing my role

spice spire
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You guys gonna kiss or

grim jay
grim jay
rotund oak
spice spire
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Damn I see how it is king

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Hate that for you sap

thorn fjord
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What you think quakie poo

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Crystal?

grim jay
thorn fjord
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Or say fuck it and take pants

spice spire
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Bit fruity

thorn fjord
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I’m gonna take the crystal I know it

rotund oak
dapper cradle
thorn fjord
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Do a lot of both

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Brood dies Thursday the latest too

spice spire
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Idk man love ur life

grim jay
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now he will come with the its great for m+, but not ST, while its still equal to all the others in ST

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but he cant read

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so fuck it

thorn fjord
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Lmao chill

dapper cradle
thorn fjord
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It’s not that serious

sand briar
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Im just now starting to get guilded crests since i dont mythic raid, what should i be using them on? My intuition is saying crafted mh>embellishment crafted gear(maybe embellished wep combo)> myth gear> hero trinkets if i dont have any more myth gear to upgrade. But idk if thats how it works out with the crest cap

dapper cradle
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you're the only one mad

lethal arrow
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flip a coin

grim jay
spice spire
thorn fjord
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Look what I started PogO

grim jay
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literally baiting people into regretful decisions by spreading bad info with confidence

thorn fjord
grim jay
spice spire
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Oh crystal is good

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That’s a silly comment

thorn fjord
spice spire
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Yeah I just saw your sim

thorn fjord
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Wrong trinket but could be worse

spice spire
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And I was like

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I ain’t reading that down on mobile

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But saw it above

hard river
grim jay
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cant go wrong

spice spire
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But let’s also not dog pile people and if they’re stubborn and not budging ignore it

spice spire
hard river
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nothing in here would be worse than outlaw channel

grim jay
spice spire
dapper cradle
grim jay
spice spire
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Love autocorrect

thorn fjord
hard river
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lmfao

dapper cradle
grim jay
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egg is shit to use

sand briar
thorn fjord
spice spire
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Egg sims are weird

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Because it’s just

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You stand still

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And always have agil

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Which isn’t how it translates to gameplay

dapper cradle
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man I've heard so many mixed opinions on egg, never used it myself though

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sounds kinda ass on paper

spice spire
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It’s weird

hard river
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egg sims don't do that

spice spire
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Vhispyr said it’s just agility only

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Which is the non moving option

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Hold

grim jay
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egg is more gimmicky than transmitter and even worse than branch

upper wraith
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can someone link the trinket dps chart for us

hexed frost
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Is mad queen any good?

hard river
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iirc egg sims try to maintain 20 stacks and move when applicable

silk sundial
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I currently have a 619 Skardyn and 619 Contract trinket. I have a 619 mercurial egg in my vault. The eggs sims best

spice spire
hexed frost
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Giga?

hard river
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mad queen is disgusting rng

dapper cradle
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mad queen goes super hard

grim jay
silk sundial
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My 619 Skardyn and 619 Contract are simming better than these three options, minus the egg. But the egg buff is unrealistic?

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Egg is about .5% better on sims

hard river
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it tries to maintain 20 agi stacks, which in itself could be unrealistic, but it wont sit there until 30 stacks

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or whatever it caps out on idk

dawn heath
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Can you feint the initial dot application on Siege last boss?

dapper cradle
dawn heath
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If you pre feint

upper wraith
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sikrans trinket... are we using this? I thought I seen a post about it

rotund oak
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so no

silk sundial
thorn fjord
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We got another catalyst today no?

dapper cradle
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peeps here prolly know

quartz relic
lethal arrow
spice spire
dapper cradle
thorn fjord
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I wanted Grace so bad 😦

rotund oak
dapper cradle
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sitting on week 1 606 skar

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super sick

thorn fjord
nova aspen
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i got it on 11th run

hard river
rotund oak
pliant remnant
thorn fjord
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Are you still playing sin @rotund oak

barren island
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for m+ its better go crafted dagger + belt etc or belt/wrist?

rotund oak
thorn fjord
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Maybe I just play sub with the trinket now

hard river
rotund oak
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i like deathstalker sub man idk Shrugeg

hard river
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outlul though

nova aspen
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did u guys see casualaddict +15 NW? the sub swap PogU

late tusk
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Hello, trying to find it on guides/pins

honest needle
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do i take myth tier hands to replace my hero or do i take mythic crit mastery boots to replace my champion. def boots right ?

thorn fjord
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Sub is changing in two weeks though… might just hold off for now

nova aspen
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i've never played sub before, might try it this expansion

late tusk
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How much is the limit to use points? I mean, like if you got 5 use it cause you can overcap (not considering dn procs)

subtle cipher
prisma monolithBOT
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Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

thorn fjord
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OL keys gonna be fun with the anniversary patch tho

spice spire
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Unless I’m an idiot which could very well be the case

rotund oak
spice spire
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Also detailed reports are a bitch to read on mobile

nova aspen
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in ST

thorn fjord
honest needle
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waitt sub might pull ahead in 2 weeks for mythic plus i really hope thats not the case @thorn fjord

subtle tundra
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anyone a verdi fan?

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gonna listen to him today

subtle cipher
thorn fjord
rotund oak
# nova aspen in ST

yeah not as it used to,depends ur management alot.The less mistakes u make the better the spec feels with symbols/dance allignemnts n stuff

thorn fjord
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Get it

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DUST

hard river
thorn fjord
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Hue hue

cursive flicker
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Is bubbling wax better than whetstones in raid?

hard river
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mb if i thought you were implying otherwise originally

rotund oak
normal mist
rotund oak
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i dont mind

thorn fjord
cursive flicker
thorn fjord
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I’m looking forward to it actually

spice spire
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Specifically as it pertains to raid with movement necessities

rotund oak
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also F trickster

thorn fjord
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I’m a boss dmg bot so all I care about is st

rotund oak
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it will pump ST thats for sure

thorn fjord
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Yeah

barren island
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sub getting that high buff?

hard river
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maintaining 20 stacks is unrealistic yeah, though im not sure how much of a difference it is to deviate from it a bit

earnest remnant
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no lol

thorn fjord
rotund oak
royal lantern
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yeha, where does buff part comes in lol

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rn sub doesnt look good for the incomming patch

barren island
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its quit big

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specially having way better ST

earnest remnant
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it wont

thorn fjord
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Could see some additional changes tho

granite gate
runic hinge
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New symbols talent Pog

rotund oak
royal lantern
thorn fjord
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I’m tied with whispyr on prog atm xla

rotund oak
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ive watched whispyr and guy streams yday

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whispyr was chil and guy was going mental with queen prog

thorn fjord
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Lmao

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Guy is never chill tho

rotund oak
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that boss looks crazy though

earnest remnant
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silken court makes me wanna pull my hair out

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not a fan

royal lantern
barren island
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bro, they are nerfing mythic queen so hard

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its insane lmao

rotund oak
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good for guy

earnest remnant
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its just gonna do less dmg

rotund oak
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will end his torture faster

thorn fjord
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Which boss you guys on sap

earnest remnant
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the boss will remain very very fcking hard

barren island
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imagine what liquid will do to her on reclear

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legit violate

subtle tundra
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you will have less hps issues

severe sparrow
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How do the dslice sims use mandate? Are they assuming you're nailing the execute every time it's up?

earnest remnant
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just makes the surviving part easier

subtle tundra
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but every mechanic is still just as hard

rotund oak
barren island
barren epoch
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what was your findings?

subtle tundra
barren island
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its big compared to what he is now

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thats the point

ruby birch
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Helo guys what is bis from brd thank you sir

severe sparrow
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I don't think you can sim all the gems, doesn't it cap you?

runic hinge
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pretty sure thats a female spider

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i mean

thorn fjord
runic hinge
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queen is in the name

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Ig her title

silk sundial
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Do you save Transmitter for the 2min Deathmark window? Its on a 1.5 min cd

barren island
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no one knows

spice spire
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Well queen

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Kinda

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Tells that eh

runic hinge
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She goes by queen, uhh i think we know

subtle tundra
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difficulty from the queen isnt just numbers wise
the mechanics are very difficult

severe sparrow
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If she identifies as a dude, his title would be king

barren island
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we will never know her/him deep secrets

south token
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is bubbling wax worth in on single target in raid?

barren island
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maybe its a facade

cobalt sphinx
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A dude can be a queen

lime light
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
barren island
thorn fjord
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I’m a dude he’s a dude she’s a dude cause we’re all dudes

cobalt sphinx
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Yas queen 💅

split veldt
barren epoch
honest needle
split veldt
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all colors for both, but haste heavy for ST

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for me anyway

barren epoch
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ok thats good to know, thanks

split veldt
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really gotta check your own toon tho, different for everyone

barren epoch
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ok i will ty

rotund oak
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10% dmg increase

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baseline

honest needle
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huh

rotund oak
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dont huh me

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its not about u

honest needle
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what does that mean ?

rotund oak
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we were talking with the man about how human hair are simply the best

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this proves it once more

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coz humans > all

dim mural
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!WA

prisma monolithBOT
honest needle
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@rotund oak do u think i should really take boots over the tier hands doesnt tier scale ?

static geyser
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is it worth spending crests to get weapon to 639 when i have 636 626

rotund oak
static geyser
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or just upgrade other myth pieces

rotund oak
honest needle
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what would u take prolly boots so my ilvl is better to pug easier ?

rotund oak
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ild take the boots personally ye

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its a myth track piece

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piece which would save u the crafting materials later on

honest needle
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those boots are basically bis right

rotund oak
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there is no such thing as bis

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but the stats are pretty much the best ye

nimble vector
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myth track hands are easy enough to get another time, either through pugging first 3/4 or vault, I think boots are better option shrug

honest needle
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sweet ty

rotund oak
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u can catalyze any myth track hands on ur vault

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doesnt matter

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boots isnt that flexible

thorn fjord
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Gotta rock the fly kicks breh

honest needle
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maybe ill get into keys easier

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i get declined to everything

rotund oak
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should just que ur own keys friend

honest needle
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dont got times for pugs to keep rage quitting then re leveling it back up

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i been working 65 hrs a week

rotund oak
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same applies to any pug key u join

honest needle
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trying to push as high as i can

rotund oak
#

if u try to push a key,u push ur own key

honest needle
#

ill try

pliant silo
#

Tank first pull is giga, one missed kick, healer dies and leaves

#

Honestly a 50:50 on dungeon start

rotund oak
#

thats why u dont go above 10s,its pointless

#

ive de-lvled like 4-5 keys

#

no reason

#

like imagine that being a thing on 12-13s

#

waiting couple of hours for an inv

#

then insta brick it

#

wait again

#

no ty

coral ibex
#

fugma i forgot to swap into my cleave build for court after kyveza and the pugs one pulled it kekwhands

#

looks like i was half afk

austere lintel
#

How did we sim bubbling wax again? Can someone help me out here, I forgot

mortal crystal
novel star
#

simply push in a static

#

pugging above vault is dumb ye

wispy epoch
#

mass blind for this week's m+ affix

#

right?

spice spire
#

Yeah

#

On mob not affix itself tho

wispy epoch
#

wont effect the affix?

#

got a warr with shockwave so should be fine regardless ig

spice spire
#

If you blind affix

#

It just does one

wispy epoch
#

oooh

spice spire
#

If you do mob it hits all around it

novel star
#

still not fixed huh

spice spire
#

Afaik no

#

But haven’t had it in a month

#

Maybe it is

late tusk
#

Hello, not able to find it on guides/Pins, when do we use combo points, I mean, limti with no procs not to waste

spice spire
novel star
#

get in a key and check goat

thin dock
#

is nightelf still the best assa racial?

spice spire
novel star
late tusk
novel star
#

it’s in the wowhead guide

spice spire
#

And then it’s max for envenom

novel star
#

like

spice spire
#

Yes

late tusk
#

thanks both

novel star
#

50 times

spice spire
#

Damage it’s diff

thin dock
#

you cant stealth out of meld in m+ right?

#

mid fight?

novel star
#

you can if it’s not a boss i think

#

but idk

#

i pick race to look cool

#

me na care

worthy laurel
#

Is it ever worht using Poisoned Knife if you can't keep melee uptime for a fight?

novel star
#

no

#

unless you’re giga mega overcapping energy

#

poisoned knife costs almost as much as mutilate and does absolute piss damage and generates piss combo points

#

don’t press it

full summit
#

Which item gives ascendance and patch? Idk which one is which looking at the spreadsheet

novel star
#

wym

full summit
#

oh i found the ascendance one

runic hinge
#

last i knew it reset poison stacks too

novel star
#

patch is called writhing armor banding

#

if that’s what ur asking

runic hinge
#

at least for pvp it would reset your wound poison stacks, wondering if it does the same for amp

full summit
novel star
runic hinge
#

okay it doesn't reset amp stacks

digital pollen
#

are we "using" clear the witnesses everytime or only in the opener?

coral owl
#

Every time

torpid linden
cerulean nest
#

yo so I havent changed my embels from sub (2x focusing lens), but sims are telling me its still the best option I have, not dawnthread etc.

#

is there something fucky or is that just fine

lethal arrow
torpid linden
#

I have a 573 blue trinket

lethal arrow
#

skardyns

#

almost certainly

torpid linden
#

was moreso wondering if it was worth to get the myth upgrade tier legs instead

lethal arrow
#

the pants dont have mastery either

torpid linden
#

vs hero trinket

marble bane
#

Is there a haste threshold we are trying to hit? Just simmed my toon and it wants me to replace enchants and switch to flat haste gems

torpid linden
#

i would swap them into the tier set legs

oak tangle
#

if you take a skardyn's you are too lazy to do content

lethal arrow
#

since we are guaranteed crits

oak tangle
#

just go farm grim on 7+ and get a hero one

#

take the myth track legs

torpid linden
marble bane
runic hinge
#

I'm sure all the people with 50+ runs and no trinket agree theyre too lazy to do content

#

ask Whisp

lethal arrow
#

skardyns for ass rogue is a 1/10 everytime u get loot from GB

#

if u think ur luck is bad take skardyns because youll very likely see pants again in the vault

runic hinge
#

Loot table in GB is huge and you only have a 40% chance of loot

oak tangle
coral ibex
#

same

lethal arrow
#

but ur own definition doesnt that mean ur too lazy to do content if ur still using a champ track one

runic hinge
#

not everyone wants to spam the same dungeon 30+ times

lethal arrow
#

why isnt it hero track

#

just go farm GB more 4HEad

runic hinge
#

If they have myth track in their vault now they can get it again and they don't have to limit themselves to doing 1 dungeon

oak tangle
#

myth comes once a week, gb comes whenever you queue

runic hinge
#

getting into keys as rogue is so easy

lethal arrow
#

ok and 40% chance at a 1/10 is also more than likely once a week

lavish summit
#

@marble bane swap the point of vicious venom to master assasin & the point of lethality to resounding clarity Chadge

runic hinge
#

especially when you have a 576 trinket

oak tangle
#

idk cap your ilvl to 626

lethal arrow
#

and the upgrade from a 570 trink is massive when trinks are your biggest upgrades

oak tangle
#

fuck the highest tier pieces

runic hinge
#

i agree

#

trinket is gonna be a bigger increase than 9 ilvls on legs

winged quail
#

does anyone know if the changes next week are numbers up or numbers down yet? or still being cooked?

lethal arrow
#

esp since this person only did 1 +10 which means theyre not swimming in gilded in either

gray hazel
#

always the wrong trinket 😦

image.webp
lethal arrow
#

so the pants wouldnt be 639 off the bat

barren island
#

no

oak tangle
#

but that also especially means that that person is not swimming in myth track items

winged quail
#

I would gladly grab the trinket there lol

runic hinge
#

yeah same

#

fuck spamming 1 dungeon

lethal arrow
oak tangle
#

so to not take a myth track when it's on offer, is ludicrous

runic hinge
#

they already have tier legs

#

and only 2 set

torpid linden
lethal arrow
#

DF s1 I ran 30 COT 20s and didnt see Whetstone

torpid linden
#

this would be my first myth track item

runic hinge
#

you're talking a cata charge too and hoping to drop 2 other tier pieces

lethal arrow
#

i had to get it out of my vault

torpid linden
#

I havent spammed grim batol but im prob just gonna take the legs and spam it til i get the trinket. surely I get it on the first run

gray hazel
lethal arrow
#

I'm using contract and sac

winged quail
#

what is theoretical bis trinket alongside skardyn?

oak tangle
#

which content

lethal arrow
#

I see a lot of ppl use sac/mandate

wooden latch
#

Sorry if this has been asked, is there a key level where you dont take sudden demise and go down the left side?

winged quail
#

sac seems good yet to get it to drop

#

4 hc skar's tho :)))

oak tangle
#

spyglass is imo just better

winged quail
#

ye i am yet to see it

oak tangle
#

so many fights involve cleave

rotund oak
#

spyglass or dawnbreaker trinket

oak tangle
#

and sacbrood dips on that

rotund oak
#

those are the other two

winged quail
#

yeah figured

#

gotta keep farming those Siege's 🙂

gray hazel
# lethal arrow sajj

yeah. it is a nice passive trinket which i wont be getting a 639 of a raid one for some time, so it could be the best long term piece. replacing sac would be nice just to lose the annoying sac animation on my back from happening hah.

oak tangle
#

i got lucky on mine, got the ring and spyglass, so dont have to touch sob again

lethal arrow
oak tangle
#

got my portal for NW and never going there again

#

all i am left to do is gb spam

winged quail
#

i just gotta farm better daggers and spyglass now

#

only non-hc slots

#

3 myth vault slots praying

oak tangle
#

i'm one or 2 weeks behind on doing 10's, so only 2 myth items, but sitting at 624 atm

winged quail
#

once you get to farming gilded only gear goes up quite fast imo

half raven
#

This might be a dumb question, but if I'm mainly doing m+, am I better off going double Radiant power? or mix 1 radiant with 1 depths?

winged quail
#

radiant

#

radiant is bearly behind on ST and very ahead on aoe

half raven
#

Sweet so just 2x the radiant? 😄

winged quail
#

yup

gray hazel
#

I have 1x rad and 1x depths on, and in my keys I found that depths did like 1.5-2x the damage of radiant

past panther
winged quail
#

radiant gives mainstat so you won't see that on meters

past panther
#

do you suggest bumping up hero track items to 6/6 or crafting first?

agile geode
#

what embelishment would be BiS for m+ on wep

past panther
#

radiant

agile geode
#

embelishment?

past panther
#

oh

#

dawnthread

agile geode
#

can't get dawnthread on wep though

icy acorn
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
past panther
#

the recommendation for m+ is double dawnthread and ST is ascendance + wrist

sudden bane
#

I feel kinda squishy when doing 10s and above on my rogue, more so than my teammates, they have been telling me to stack versa is this something yall do for high keys?

tulip fern
#

Good feint usage should be more than enough for 10/11s

oak tangle
#

get friendly with elusiveness and the feint button

agile geode
#

okay so double dawnthread it is and i just keep non on my wep then

sudden bane
#

Yeah ive been running the cheat death, but i should prolly switch

oak tangle
#

cheat is only good when you cannot live without it

tulip fern
#

Cheat is great for making up for oopsies though

oak tangle
#

yeah and covering mistakes

coral ibex
#

nah cheat is ass by like 8's

#

it procs once early and then you just die the next time you get hit

keen spruce
#

Elus is required at some point

coral ibex
#

feint + elu goated

ember hinge
#

I may be very new to this issue but does Lingering Darkness not work anymore (did it ever work) ? I dont seem to get the buff.

keen spruce
#

so you might as well start using it

#

if you ever plan on pushing

#

why would you play in a way that you suddenly won't be able to play on the next key level

oak tangle
#

and pisso ff that tricks and get blackjack into your life

keen spruce
#

just embrace feinting on CD smile_dog

tulip fern
#

I still get good usage of cheat in 10s, I don’t find I need the extra dr

spice surge
still moat
#

I have a quesetion ,when to turn fatebound

oak tangle
ember hinge
keen spruce
sudden bane
#

My healers have been calling me out for taking too much dmg

#

And ive been running cheat

coral ibex
#

🙂

sudden bane
#

Imma make the switch tbh

#

WIsh me luck without cheat xD

keen spruce
#

you're basically skipping the strongest defensive in the game because you might woopsies at some point

oak tangle
#

just gotta learn what hurts, and feint it

#

in a week

#

off gcd too

#

big stonks

subtle tundra
#

as long as you dont get 1 shot by unavoidable shit, play cd

tulip fern
#

If I hit feint, I have not had a single aoe ability bring me lower than like 40%

keen spruce
#

Elusivness makes it work on ST

sudden bane
#

Feint will be off GCD?!

keen spruce
#

ye

sudden bane
#

Oh damn we cooking

tulip fern
#

I can’t say I’ve ever needed it for ST damage though, highest I have done is 11 tho

thorn fjord
#

ER going away too

#

Hehe

keen spruce
oak tangle
#

idk what groups you running with, but pug healers bro, i need feint on almost all mechanics that ever were conceived

tulip fern
#

If it’s bad I just health pot, generally they’re fine and never complain but maybe they’re just nice lol

#

And ye I’m aware that at some point the switch is necessary but tbh without the necessity I prefer the safety net

oak tangle
#

whatever the ability that summons adds on izo

keen spruce
#

If a healer complains that people need to be healed they will be kicked from the group lol

oak tangle
#

aint no way you aint pressing feint on that shit

keen spruce
#

doesn't mean they aren't punching air

tulip fern
#

I press feint on it, is it not aoe

vast loom
#

we got there ladies and gentlemen

image.png
oak tangle
#

the root one

#

you can cloak one

tulip fern
#

Oh nah I mean you can evasion it with the hero talent and cloak another

arctic socket
vast loom
#

ill pray for one every tuesday

arctic socket
tulip fern
#

I can’t remember the name but the 20% dr on magic damage with evasion

oak tangle
#

ye

tulip fern
#

I do agree that it becomes necessary though, but I’m more likely to make a mistake than get one shot by unavoidable damage

#

And deaths are super punishing

spice spire
#

Maybe unavoidable for you, but I’m different

bright surge
coral ibex
#

there’s no unavoidable damage that you need to have cheat up for in keys

#

literally none

oak tangle
#

if i was running cheat death in the NW pug i did, it would have saved my life once or twice

coral ibex
#

just feint + elu

#

you live

oak tangle
#

but only because the dk tank couldnt fuckin control his pet

tulip fern
#

Never said there was, the cheat is for the avoidable damage that I will get hit by every now and then because I make mistakes

oak tangle
#

mid pull, losing MC on it, melee's someone

#

sussy behaviour

nova aspen
#

pls be good

#

eh

#

i take knife

spice spire
#

Honestly

#

That’s a very unfortunate vault

#

It’s knife or myth shoulders

nova aspen
#

yea

#

i already have myth shoulder

#

so

spice spire
#

Oh

#

Yeah

nova aspen
#

knife it is

spice spire
#

Did you get pizza

nova aspen
#

i also have myth wrists lol

nova aspen
spice spire
#

That was the mistake

nova aspen
#

yep

arctic socket
#

Sim it

#

Might be a socket

cobalt sphinx
#

hero knife is sick

nova aspen
#

those are my options

cinder bone
#

shoutout to Whispyr and everyone else giving me tips ❤️

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arctic socket
spice spire
arctic socket
#

Is better for you in st

spice spire
arctic socket
#

My moms a hottie

nova aspen
#

is there an option to choose GV socket?

spice spire
#

I do wish

#

Damn

spice spire
arctic socket
#

Socket option tho

#

Idk on that

nova aspen
#

wasnt sure if the socket is included

spice spire
#

Oh no

#

Socket is not

#

But you can sim

#

See your best option

#

Then sim and add a socket

#

See which is higher

#

Chuckle

arctic socket
#

Take a piece you have without a socket then add a socket too it

#

Kinda like gear compare

nova aspen
#

gotcha

spice spire
arctic socket
spice spire
arctic socket
nova aspen
#

uhh

#

where is the add socket option

sturdy mesa
#

Shoulders can't be socketed?

spice spire
#

Can’t add to shoulders

nova aspen
#

damnit

spice spire
#

Gotta add to something that can have socket

#

So just get the exact same piece + socket + whatever enchant

nova aspen
#

helm wrist belt it looks like

arctic socket
#

Helm can

spice spire
delicate trench
#

quick question - do we rupture spiders and worms in ovinax fight ?

arctic socket
delicate trench
#

is it worth spreading them to those targets ?

arctic socket
spice spire
delicate trench
#

can you tell me when you do please ?

spice spire
#

If they live over 7s

#

If they do not

#

You do not

arctic socket
#

^

delicate trench
#

thanks you

nova aspen
#

candle in both dungeon and ST

arctic socket
#

That has gotta be some type of sick joke

spice spire
arctic socket
#

Candle?

#

Naw

spice spire
#

That’s negative crit gaming

nova aspen
arctic socket
#

Where’s the socket option

nova aspen
#

its simming

woven shore
#

mythic raid blasting later

runic hinge
#

socket was .4 for me this week

woven shore
#

your boy going to work

#

improve logs

runic hinge
#

verse/crit poggers

arctic socket
#

Eww

#

Vers? Get that shit outta here

nova aspen
#

thats the single target one lol

#

fkn candle

arctic socket
#

I can’t believe candle is higher

nova aspen
arctic socket
#

What trinket is that candle

#

The waning?

nova aspen
#

ye

arctic socket
#

Does it proc often?

nova aspen
#

socket is 4.6k upgrade in dungeonslice, knife is 5.3k

arctic socket
#

Looks like a stat stick with a cool proc and you share it with allies

nova aspen
#

but candle > knife

#

apparently

nova aspen
cobalt sphinx
#

do you have a mythic item to put the socket on

nova aspen
#

a lot it seems like

arctic socket
#

So socket would be your best option

nova aspen
#

crit/haste

arctic socket
#

You got a piece to socket then

nova aspen
arctic socket
#

I can’t wait to get home and look t my shit vault

#

Probably have to take a socket myself

nova aspen
#

i should mention

cobalt sphinx
#

yup it's a socket for me

nova aspen
#

im simming as coin flipper

#

maybe thats why candle better

spice spire
#

Oh

#

It’s cooked

cobalt sphinx
#

are people really playing fatebound

#

it hasn't withered away and died yet?

nova aspen
#

only me

arctic socket
#

You’re playing fatebound

nova aspen
arctic socket
#

Wth

#

It’s all making so much more sense now

nova aspen
#

so now do i take knife for next tuesday

#

when ER is dead

#

and i go deathstalker

arctic socket
#

What do you mean er is dead

nova aspen
arctic socket
spice spire
#

Becomes a passive

arctic socket
#

Oh

scenic kiln
#

if im being cringe and using mandate + transmitter when do i use them in opener

arctic socket
#

Yeah

cobalt sphinx
#

fatebound has been dead

spice spire
cobalt sphinx
#

why bother simming anything i fyou are playing fatebound

arctic socket
spice spire
#

Mandate after

spice spire
arctic socket
#

If you’re doing court, use transmitter with your dm window then send mandate when the bettle guy gets stunned and takes increased damage

shy sorrel
#

Does this look somewhat ok? 7NW

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cobalt sphinx
#

yeah but it's min/maxing without the max part

#

xthat is a lot more tempest than i would have

spice spire
#

How big we pulling tbf

#

Because if we’re doing full areas in one

#

Makes sense

scenic kiln
spice spire
#

If not

#

Not so much

arctic socket
spice spire
#

Yeah just send 30s after

#

It’s big damooj

shy sorrel
scenic kiln
#

cool cool ty

arctic socket
#

Big raw damage

spice spire
#

But agnostic of thinfs

coral ibex
#

third

#

after spatter and env

spice spire
#

2/3 pending pulls

#

But usually firmly 3

arctic socket
spice spire
#

Unless I have a mega ape

#

Yeah

shy sorrel
#

So simply use less Tempest and more Envenom

coral ibex
#

oh yea for sure

spice spire
#

That’s pretty normal

arctic socket
#

How?

coral ibex
#

because the pugs i play with are ASS at ST

#

and i spend probably equal time in keys killing bosses

arctic socket
#

Oh

#

That makes more sense

#

Nvm

coral ibex
#

sometimes envenom is #1 in an 8

#

xd

spice spire
#

Wdym how.
You envenom a lot more in a dungeon than ct- if st is low you are envenom ong like crazy

shy sorrel
#

This was 6Mists

7ba4079d99bd1e94e81e9c155ac7dbc8.png
#

Does that look better?

spice spire
#

Mists makes sense

#

Because first boss exists

fallen arch
#

I looked at my 11 GB today and Env/Spatter/CT were all 10%

shy sorrel
#

But is it situational if CT is over Envenom or should Env more or less always be above?

fallen arch
#

It’s hard looking at this and knowing if its aight

#

Its situational

#

Usually its