assassination

[boreal stirrup]

i hadnt applied poisons.. ty

[oak eagle]

...

[golden loom]

buff CT blizz!!!

[novel star]

it’s alright

someone else came in here yesterday asking if spatter was bugged and it was just no poisons

common issue it seems

[covert jewel]

poison reminder is a must

[balmy condor]

It would legit break the spec lmao we would be perma using Ct in single target and the entire spec would crumble cause you wouldn’t need to gar/rup outside of your main target

Like

CT on venomous

Actually just shatters every rotational concept we have

[novel star]

[golden loom]

yeah exactly imagine how nice..

[runic hinge]

Buff rupture

[balmy condor]

Fuck no

[novel star]

idk i like playing the game

[balmy condor]

This isn’t a “how nice”

This is a “the entire spec breaks and needs a rework” levels of bad

[novel star]

ct st isn’t playing the game

[oak eagle]

yeah i have a wa that tells me when my poisons have 20 mins left on em, its pretty nice and thats when i usually re app them when it shows up

[novel star]

should do sum like that too

i just check my buffs

always have

[runic hinge]

Imagine not putting new poisons on before every pull listening to your RL speak

[golden loom]

playing classic makes you used to checking poisons, 30 min duration and charges

[languid ferry]

Do I macro this to deathmark or is there some timing u need to hit

[novel star]

macro

[oak eagle]

macro with dmark

[languid ferry]

sick

[runic hinge]

Yes

[languid ferry]

just the way I like it

[covert jewel]

bro flexing

[oak eagle]

we love 2 min stat sticks with a 2 min class

[lofty dawn]

hey, doest any1 know why my kingsbane breaks? got the WA that shows when i have to use shiv and envemon, and some pulls it just dissapears

[runic hinge]

Parry

[oak eagle]

parry maybe?

[languid ferry]

6 runs :p

[oak eagle]

ive gotten my kingsbane parried so much its so cringe

[covert jewel]

continues to flex

[novel star]

are you hitting the front of the boss and getting parried

[lofty dawn]

the boss can do that?

[novel star]

yes

[oak eagle]

on ovinax

[lofty dawn]

wtf

[oak eagle]

im hitting the boss on its side

and i get parried

[languid ferry]

43 goddamn runs for sacbrood though 🙃

[oak eagle]

its so cringe

[lofty dawn]

is it only on the side or can be anywhere?

[novel star]

supposed to be front of the boss only

[balmy condor]

Parry is only from the front

[novel star]

but ovinax is just big

[oak eagle]

i think ovinax is weird with his hitbox

[novel star]

so “front” is visually unclear when it’s a fat worm

[balmy condor]

It’s like a 70 degree angle

[lofty dawn]

alright

[quiet oar]

I swear

Queen ansurek parried my KB

while i was behind her

[novel star]

fake news

send the clip

[balmy condor]

Wish I was behind queen ansurek

[quiet oar]

Or "kinda" Behind

[balmy condor]

So I don’t get parried obviously

[runic hinge]

[quiet oar]

[novel star]

Imagine her webbing you up and force feeding u more vodkka

[quiet oar]

Whisp can fix her

[balmy condor]

Hope I die from alcohol poisoning

[novel star]

swishing it around her spider mouth and spitting it into urs

what a life

[balmy condor]

I be stumbling out of the bar looking like ulgrax

And id be happy

[novel star]

goat

[normal mist]

Is he drunkispyr

[glacial crypt]

this is the best message to open the chat to

9am my time rn, he has to be hammered

[quiet oar]

yes kinda

10 am my time

[normal mist]

Samesiesss

[quiet oar]

Imagine being 1 hour behind

[normal mist]

Oi

;C

[runic hinge]

It’s 4 am

[glacial crypt]

UK gang

[runic hinge]

You guys are in the future

[covert jewel]

bros living in history

[glacial crypt]

wait until you hear about "Australia"

[quiet oar]

You are maybe 1 hour behind, but you are still my future

[normal mist]

Holy

Molly

[glacial crypt]

the rizz

[balmy prism]

10 am supremacy

[normal mist]

I got rizzed

[glacial crypt]

that made me giggle and it wasn't even directed my way

There's this one class for uni right, which I haven't attended at all

it's got a groupwork hand-in for 50% of our grade, so I messaged people I'm supposed to be in agroup with

and they were clueless about it 🙏

[normal mist]

What

[glacial crypt]

first time rocking up to the class today should be fun

[zealous wolf]

i see some ppl (high m+ players) drop iron wire for lightweight shiv, but without arterial precision, also some play arterial precisdion but drop carnage and sudden demise, is this the play for m+?

[normal mist]

Teacher will be like

[quiet oar]

[normal mist]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-a-minute-who-are-you-kazoo-kid-funny-gif-16933963

[glacial crypt]

legit xd

[quiet oar]

I mean, im pretty proud

[normal mist]

Don't
Follow
Top
Players

[quiet oar]

So i should use double vanish like Zerocool?

got it

[covert jewel]

double vanish is goated

[zealous wolf]

i know, im just curious whats the thinking behind it xd

[glacial crypt]

not this again 😭

[normal mist]

His team

[glacial crypt]

playing in premades

[zealous wolf]

ok

[cobalt sphinx]

ahhaha kush isn't using crippling

[zealous wolf]

Does any other class have a cast speed reduction for mobs?

[cobalt sphinx]

didn't all the regulars in here FREAK OUT over someone not running crippling

[quiet oar]

Warlocks

tehcnically

[normal mist]

I can't remember that

[quiet oar]

with a curse

and Blood dks?

[glacial crypt]

ARMS WOYER

no that's healing

fuck

[normal mist]

Probably just warlock

[zealous wolf]

Most of the time i dont use cripling, idk why, i still have nightmares from sanguine

[runic hinge]

Missing a lethal dose stack

[normal mist]

Your tank is probably sad about it

[glacial crypt]

crippling is goated 🙏

[runic hinge]

Right?

[glacial crypt]

playing frost mage sub rogue during SL s2 my tank was always so happy

[cobalt sphinx]

i don't think anyone kits anymore

kites

[zealous wolf]

so sub like 12's you guys use numbing right?

[cobalt sphinx]

it's probably okay but i've seen both

[glacial crypt]

whatever the hybrid build on wowhead has is what I'm using for 10s

with the addition of tricks because no tank trust n that

[glacial crypt]

yes

[cobalt sphinx]

i've been using atrophic because i saw one of the streamers run it but i think numbing seems better

might depend on key

does it work on amarth

[zealous wolf]

is there a way to apply poisons with like a macro or something

[cobalt sphinx]

i remember thinking tongues worked on anything that is kickable

[zealous wolf]

i hate clicking it 300 times

[cobalt sphinx]

8 clicks an hour is a grind isn't it

[thin plinth]

guys how to craft this dagger ilvl 636 😄

[cobalt sphinx]

you need to make an enchanted gilded harbinger crest with 90 gilded harbinger crests

[thin plinth]

ok so i cant just buy the dagger from the ah

[cobalt sphinx]

negatory

[quiet oar]

No

[cobalt sphinx]

gotta play the game and earn it bruv

[quiet oar]

You have to do it via Crafting order

[glacial crypt]

i love u

[thin plinth]

just kidding, love the grind

[cobalt sphinx]

[thin plinth]

thank you for the useful info

[arctic bramble]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[tulip portal]

Is double duskthread lining fixed?

Or dawnthread, excuse me

[grim jay]

Atrophic is at the end of the day for group survivability and numbing for tank survivability + casts

So kinda depends on what is needed, ye

[calm nymph]

does this spread seem right for m+??

[royal lantern]

1: looking at dmg spreads is a bit weird

2: spatter should be #1

[quiet oar]

Spatter should be higher

[mellow copper]

I had that too, in dawnbreaker in a very scuffed run 😄

[cobalt sphinx]

what key was it

[normal mist]

Wdym fixed?

[soft merlin]

!dawnthread

[prisma monolith]

Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.

[cobalt sphinx]

oh wait

that's a grim batol obviously

[frigid kestrel]

ye battered red dragon damage

[quiet oar]

[frigid kestrel]

drake*

[cobalt sphinx]

never seen garrote that high

garrote god

spatter was 14.8% in my gb11 last week but it might be a smaller share this week

[sharp viper]

especially if it's a single fight and not even overall

[warm thorn]

question about craf items, i'm getting into 9s and collecting crests, my question is:
do i go belt wrist and one dagger or belt and 2 daggers since my wrist is my only myth item rn?

[cobalt sphinx]

second dagger last

jeez yo

[sharp viper]

socket and enchant your gear

first

[cobalt sphinx]

there is no way in hell that you would ever craft a wrist in this position

[warm thorn]

that's why i'm asking

[cobalt sphinx]

dagger then ring or belt or boots

[sharp viper]

in your position i would do the following

1. socket and enchant your current gear
2. craft 636 dagger (potentially with embellishment)
3. craft belt (potentially with embellishment)

[quiet oar]

Craft a 636 Dagger

und recraft 636 Dagger

and get free weapon uppies

[sharp viper]

does that still work?

[quiet oar]

I did it yesterday on my DH

accidentally

ofc

[sharp viper]

ofc

[quiet oar]

Forgot the embelishment

me dumbo

[grim jay]

I forgot to add sparkle

Me dumbo

[cobalt sphinx]

i changed my mind on what stats i wanted

as soon as i got my item

[left loom]

it can even vary through different dungs...

[calm nymph]

yeah im aware

[grim jay]

Id craft 636 dagger and embellishments on belt and boots

[calm nymph]

i was suprised my spatter was that low

[cobalt sphinx]

buy a 616 socketed belt off the AH

[grim jay]

Id rather start hurting myself

Than buy a heroic gear piece

[quiet oar]

May i hurt you

[warm thorn]

so from what i'm getting one dagger and belt for sure

[grim jay]

Undoubtedly

You may

[cobalt sphinx]

i got mine like two weeks ago for 380k, pretty cheap for an item that's gonna last a long time

[quiet oar]

If you dont raid mythic

Yeah

[warm thorn]

guild not quite there yet

[cobalt sphinx]

does that guy look like he's raiding mythic

[warm thorn]

[quiet oar]

Wow

dont shame him like that

[grim jay]

It would last me anywhere between one raid day and 2 weeks

[quiet oar]

Well i last 1 minute most of times

Thats why Xalataths Whisper hurt so much

[balmy condor]

Same

[quiet oar]

[subtle tundra]

🛏️

noted

[grim jay]

Which one

[sharp viper]

have you tried restealthing?

[quiet oar]

"I Wish you wouldve lasted a little longer"

[sharp viper]

Have you tried timing your keys?

[quiet oar]

Well im definitely vanishing after that performance

[grim jay]

How could you even last longer

If faced with such feet

[sharp viper]

well if your spouse lets you drop combat afterwards you wouldn't have to waste vanish like that

[sharp viper]

[grim jay]

[sharp viper]

[quiet oar]

idk you cant

[quiet oar]

Well the shame debuff keeps you in combat

unfortunately

Fucking bugs

[grim jay]

Blizz really went with her feet

They displayed them everywhere

[subtle tundra]

fuck me man

rrr ruff

woof

[grim jay]

[rocky spear]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[rocky spear]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[molten echo]

skardyns and umbriss band in the same run, TY

[rotund oak]

If u exchange positions between spatter and envenom u lookin' good but no it doesnt,spatter looks low

[hollow elk]

!talents

I dont even know if that exists tbh

[royal lantern]

!guide

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guides:
Wowhead: https://www.wowhead.com/assassination-rogue-guide
IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
Method: https://www.method.gg/guides/assassination-rogue

[royal lantern]

[hollow elk]

Arent the recommended talents worse for assa than using the garrote heavy build

[rotund oak]

wdym garrote heavy

like arterial shock one?

[polar badge]

wht about focus lense ?

[hollow elk]

Sanguine blades build

With improved garrote and suffocation and MA

[rotund oak]

there are more than one sang blades builds fam

ye also 2-3 of those

[hollow elk]

Single target

[rotund oak]

im confused now

u said ma and imp gar and ss and MA

[hollow elk]

CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMzMzMMmxyMAAAAAAMLwyMAAAAAA022MzMegZGMzMLz2YMGMzMzMzYmNLjZA2MLDMgFwywMghFA

This one

This sims best for me no matter the gear

[rotund oak]

if it sims better u should just follow the numbers fam

good stuff

[hollow elk]

But it even sims better than the thing in fuus spreadsheet

With his build

[rotund oak]

ye so whats the problem with simming better

[hollow elk]

Why is a worse build beinh recommended

[rotund oak]

there are many factors that could change that,most likely ilvl/gear

[hollow elk]

Or are sims broken smh

[rotund oak]

maybe

[hollow elk]

I used fuus full 639 spreadsheet build

And just compared his build with that one

[quiet oar]

Thats without indiscrimite carnage

[rotund oak]

i mean w/o IC i dont see a way it wins in m+

realistically

[hollow elk]

?

Im talking about ST

Or arent you talking about me

[subtle tundra]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[rotund oak]

tiramil thought so

i aint talking about anyone atm

[novel star]

where the fuck is skardyns

[rotund oak]

but if u are talking about ST,purely ST that means MA anniversary buffs are on raidbots

maybe

@balmy condor sir is this ok?

[hollow elk]

Idk shouldnt be

[clever sapphire]

this shit triggered me, i read skardyns and was about to be happy

[rotund oak]

yeah im wondering as well,makes no sense

[quiet oar]

Oh i thought you talk about m+

[hollow elk]

Cause my build there sims 20k better or smtj

[quiet oar]

because in my books

[novel star]

lmao

[quiet oar]

there is only one st build

[rotund oak]

ok grandpa,lets get u back to bed

[quiet oar]

When im a grandpa

What will this make you

A Grave?

[rotund oak]

kinda toxic but ye

[hollow elk]

@vestal wren

[quiet oar]

I mean kinda realistic

[rotund oak]

im thinking why should MA win though,whats the deal

[quiet oar]

You are like 14 years older

[hollow elk]

Idk its simming better

[vestal wren]

whats the question?

[hollow elk]

Dont ask me why brother

Im just as confused

CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMzMzMMmxyMAAAAAAMLwyMAAAAAA022MzMegZGMzMLz2YMGMzMzMzYmNLjZA2MLDMgFwywMghFA

[rotund oak]

ok,run down the block and say every elder person u see when u are old they will be dead,bozo

[shell quail]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[hollow elk]

Why is thia build simmins better

Than the one in ur spreadsheet in ST deathstalker

[rotund idol]

is sureki really bis in the long run over trailspinner?

[hollow elk]

Is MA bugged and simming too high

[vestal wren]

let me check

[hollow elk]

I used same gear you used

[quiet oar]

Well its easier to get Sureki than Trailspinner on myth track

[hollow elk]

It always simmed better

[quiet oar]

(if you raid mythic ofc)

[hollow elk]

Like not even optimized it idk weird af

[novel star]

well every stat is good and it just simply gives you more stat than other necks cus the proc doesnt take anything away from the other secondaries

so probably

but who knows

[hollow elk]

Oups you gotta swap spattee i think

[novel star]

bis is kind of a fake concept

[hollow elk]

Spatter*

[novel star]

tbh

also just being a giga homie by giving ur healers mana

[vestal wren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kZsEvuhL98c4gyut7NAwLC

sims worse

[hollow elk]

CMQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMzMzMMmxyMAAAAAAMLwyMAAAAAA022MzMegZGMzMLz2YMGMzMzMzYmNbjZA2MLDMglglhZADLA

My vad

Bad

Sent wrong one

Didnt swap spatter xdd

[rotund oak]

yeah that got me thinking

[vestal wren]

sims within 0.1% dps

[brisk path]

wdym, spatter bis ST talent

[vestal wren]

but does not sim higher

[hollow elk]

But why does it sim like 20k better for me

[vestal wren]

1.8% loss

[hollow elk]

Am i using wrong settings

[vestal wren]

is ... free

[vestal wren]

diffrent gear

i assume

[hollow elk]

I used urs

[rotund oak]

what kind of sorcery is dis

[hollow elk]

From spreadsheet

[vestal wren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sxgY9Y3PYSnhg5qoATq2u1

[hollow elk]

Singletarget deathstalker

[vestal wren]

you can inspect the sim

[hollow elk]

Change belt to haste mastery

I think

Ah w/e

Ur the pro im the noob

[vestal wren]

if you find a higher profile

let me know

[hollow elk]

It just always sims like 20k higher for me

[vestal wren]

and i can switch to it

[rotund oak]

the sim doesnt have ma or imp gar bruh

nor spatter

the classic ap one

[hollow elk]

1 target 5 minutes right

[rotund oak]

uses venomous wounds as well

[lone lava]

@balmy condor

[royal lantern]

now kiss

[subtle tundra]

fatebound sims 5k dps less for me

wawaweeewa

its getting close

[hollow elk]

good

fatebound sucks

[subtle tundra]

sure bud

[rotund oak]

not rly,fatebound is just easier,auto pilot,u go by ur day

[hollow elk]

boring af

[rotund oak]

like deathtalker sin is engaging af

[subtle tundra]

idc i just want to try something else

[rotund oak]

[vestal wren]

but to cause a havoc

[subtle tundra]

also annoying af sometimes

[hollow elk]

crazy

[subtle tundra]

ds

[vestal wren]

it seems like we can discuss improved garrote

[hollow elk]

im doing something wrong with my sims

what settings am i supposed to use

[vestal wren]

patchwerk

5 minutes

[hollow elk]

ye

[vestal wren]

latest version of simc

or nightly

all buffs checked outside of PI

[hollow elk]

whats the difference to weekly

version

[vestal wren]

the changes are implemented

the weekly updates

[hollow elk]

aight

cause my sims were like 20k lower in general

and the build i sent was always simming way better

[vestal wren]

but look what you did

[hollow elk]

:D

[vestal wren]

before

after

[late surge]

😮

[hollow elk]

im closing the gap

[vestal wren]

you destroyed a perfect .69

[subtle tundra]

what the fuck?

[hollow elk]

brother it aint my fault

[subtle tundra]

wheres my fatebound m+ sim

[hollow elk]

well it kinda is

[subtle tundra]

grargh

[vestal wren]

oh true

[potent moon]

quick interrupting question: what's the value of waiting a couple seconds for vanish to be back off cd to get stealth garrote for second deathmark?

[hollow elk]

im trying some sims now

maybe i can close the gap even more

[royal lantern]

thats not "value"

if you play imp.garrote, thats what you are doing

NOT doing it is a big mistake

[hollow elk]

brother i need premium raidbots holy moly

[potent moon]

fair enough, phrasing 😄 been getting really really really close to what sim says my boi can do,

[golden loom]

I mean if vanish is up in a few seconds, isnt it fine to pop deathmark and then while its going Vanish -> Garotte?

deathmark is dynamic so shouldn't matter which order you do it right?

[royal lantern]

you still waste seconds of dm?

like man

why cant you wait 5seconds lol

[potent moon]

that was my thought, except for fights where i lose uptime during deathmark bc of mechanics, i always wait

[late surge]

on brood

its even better to hodl

cuz u get to pad a bit more

kekeke

[royal lantern]

getting the maximum out of your CD windows is kinda the goal on a CD based burst spec

[golden loom]

idk I play VV most of the time so was not sure if the sequencing matterd, but good to know 👍

[modest nexus]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[midnight atlas]

are sims broken with the 0.15% crit gem? they keep offering me a single type of gem

[late surge]

then stats for u are worth more ig

works for me

[hollow elk]

@vestal wren check dm

[warm vortex]

Boutta up my em bracers to 636 feels good

[crimson zephyr]

yeey I have my first orange (actually two) in warcraft logs. It's weird, I think I do so many mistakes and lack so much theoretical knowledge yet I'm not performing too bad. Most players must basically play by rolling their face on the keyboard o.O

[subtle tundra]

its how logs work

[sharp trellis]

What is more worth ? Recraft 619 to 636 or upgrade stuff ? :/ apart from weapon

[royal lantern]

well

assa got a big buff

not many logs exist yet

not saying "lol u bad"

but thats a HUGE Thing rn

[subtle tundra]

youre comparing to a lot of old logs with way worse gear

[crimson zephyr]

😂

[subtle tundra]

theres logs from 610 ilvl

600 ilvl

etc

[crimson zephyr]

I thought warcraft logs makes distribution within a 2-3 ilvl range

[subtle tundra]

ilvl logs are not real

you only look at overall

[crimson zephyr]

is there a more statistical view? with some actual math and values and stuff? I don't even know where the overall view is, I just search my char.

[subtle tundra]

idk what you mean

[crimson zephyr]

Well I want to see the distribution for my ilvl and if there aren't enough samples, I want to widen the ilvl but looking at a distribution from ilvl 0 to ilvl inf doesn't seem to give me any information that's useful other than "you bader than mythic raiders better than lfr" => you want to compare yourself to similar geared people.

like where do I get the mean, variance, number of samples, view of the distribution etc. etc. from which this information was taken?

[quiet oar]

Wdym the best % is the best % you did

thats compared to every other sin rogue

the median is all your logs added and divivded by number if logs

[crimson zephyr]

but what's the context? where can I find information to the context?

[quiet oar]

Click on the boss and on the log you did

and hower of the %

there is a number of how many Logs there are

[crimson zephyr]

eh? isn't a log deterministic?

like if you have this, what is rank % and what is ilvl %? what does it compare me to? Who's part of that distribution?

[quiet oar]

Rank is

you have 97

so you are better than 97% of the logs

and ilvl is

you are better than 96% of people with your ilvl

[subtle tundra]

you can see all the logs

[crimson zephyr]

I don't get why there would be more than one log per fight ^^

[subtle tundra]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/38

[crimson zephyr]

If I record or you record, what does it matter?

[subtle tundra]

it doesnt matter who does it

just that someone does it

for the raid you are in

[arctic cloud]

I dont get why ulgrax is the hardest to maintain a good high number, its one of my only blue parses left

[quiet oar]

Ulgrax is ST

just pump ST

[subtle tundra]

cause kill timer is so important

[quiet oar]

and dont use CDs on adds

[crimson zephyr]

you run around liek a chicken? ^^ no idea was also wondering why I was kinda bad in that fight 😦

[subtle tundra]

if you do 3 intermissions then youre cooked

[arctic cloud]

I do pump st, even using internal bleed

[crimson zephyr]

ST?

[quiet oar]

Single traget

[arctic cloud]

I have tried using caustic splatter for the add phase, but it really doesnt help

[quiet oar]

Nah

[royal python]

Only for deathstalker, for fatebound that's sub optimal

[quiet oar]

This was my 99

yesterday

[subtle tundra]

buddy did you read what i said

[quiet oar]

i did like zero add dmg

[crimson zephyr]

so I'm better than 97% of every rogue of any spec that ever tried this boss on normal so far? (whereas the data is skewed due to patch day) but still. and ilvl is my exact ilvl? or is it a range? is there a number of how many people the calculations included? If it's 10, the vlaues doesnt mean anything.

[arctic cloud]

buddy, I literally told you I run internal bleeding mainly

[quiet oar]

No 97% better than other sin rogues

[arctic cloud]

did you read that

[subtle tundra]

did you read what I(ME) said

[crimson zephyr]

thank you

[subtle tundra]

i was talking about kill timer

[quiet oar]

You only get compared

[subtle tundra]

you can be fucking god

jesus

moses

whoever you want

[quiet oar]

to your spec

[subtle tundra]

but if you do 3 intermissions you will get shit log

[crimson zephyr]

so I shoudl expect my nice ornage 97 to drop over the coming days?

[quiet oar]

Best case is

you get 1 intermission for ulgrax

and he is under 30%

so you can pop all cds after intermission

and have execute dmg

[subtle tundra]

those dont change. its based on the current logs you killed it

[quiet oar]

No it wont drop in your overview

[subtle tundra]

though you might kill a boss and the next day see it changes, thats cause the log gets locked in and compared again every day at a certain time

[quiet oar]

But if you clikc on a boss in your overview

[arctic cloud]

I dont know that I have ever had 3 intermissions, even pugging

[quiet oar]

There is a today like here

[crimson zephyr]

so it's basically useless - where can I compare those values in the newest distribution?

[subtle tundra]

you dont

nobody does

dont think you can

[quiet oar]

Like Hist% is the % youd id when you got the prase

and Today % is compared to today

So it may be a 95% in 5 weeks

[subtle tundra]

oh you can

i dont see the point of it

[crimson zephyr]

it's the most informative value

I don't care how I did in this particular log, in this particular raid - I care how I do overall.

[subtle tundra]

what, how what

whatever

[quiet oar]

Its exactly that balance

[crimson zephyr]

so what's teh aggregation window of warcraft logs? 1 day?

[quiet oar]

Its the overall

No

ALL logs

get compared

No time window

[crimson zephyr]

so they continously update the distribution?

[quiet oar]

Yes thats why i said

[subtle tundra]

buddy if it were 1 day windows the data would be meaningless

[quiet oar]

The hist% is the parse you did when the log was uploaded

and today% is your log compared to todays numbers

[agile wedge]

guys, why dont people go cs on bosses like rashanan myhtic?

[fast mural]

Guys is this low Mastery ? Do i need a bit more?

[crimson zephyr]

yeah was wondering but I thought someone said it before - must have misread

[subtle tundra]

youd wait until last day of the reset to kill it when everyone else has killed it already and get a free 100 log

[quiet oar]

Because adds die on no time

[crimson zephyr]

let me see if I can find those ^^

[arctic cloud]

that is the kinda split I am trying to get

[modest nexus]

!macro

[quiet oar]

go in your overview

[modest nexus]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[quiet oar]

press on a boss

[arctic cloud]

I can never seemto get my mastery above my other stats

[subtle tundra]

who fucking cares

sim

go on

with your life

[quiet oar]

Like clikc on one of them

[royal lantern]

you cant cleave the adds+ they explode in 2seconds anyway

[agile wedge]

i see thanks

[subtle tundra]

i dont understand the obsession of people looking at stat numbers

[quiet oar]

and you get this

[crimson zephyr]

ah that, ok thanks. I'll observe that. The first value should go down probably over the week. So how do I figure out how many sampels went into computing that value?

[fast mural]

You talk to me @subtle tundra ?

[warm vortex]

Got to 620 now :D

[crimson zephyr]

math is fun?

[quiet oar]

No the Today%

gets down

[subtle tundra]

yes im flaming people who care about their stats

[quiet oar]

the first will stay like that forever

[crimson zephyr]

ah yeah ofc mistyped

[loud hearth]

Just looking at a number is not Maths

[fast mural]

This is why Rogue Discord is here

To ask guidance

[arctic cloud]

mad that mmo players like to min max and talk and ask question to do said minmaxxing

[subtle tundra]

yea those numbers are completely meaningless

[crimson zephyr]

who are you to judge mister "i'm in a class specific discord server ":P you a nerd like us

[quiet oar]

Well Stats dont matter that much

if there is no breakpoint

or cap you need to reach

it wont make you do 50% less dmg

[fast mural]

Then don't bother to asnwer

[quiet oar]

if you have crit haste

[subtle tundra]

then if i dont answer youll be back in 2 days asking again

and other people see you ask

and will ask again

and think about it

[fast mural]

Still don

[quiet oar]

In general on sin its

[subtle tundra]

when its a waste of fucking brain cells to look at your stats

[quiet oar]

Ilvl > Stats

[fast mural]

dont understand why it should bother you all this

[crimson zephyr]

ok thanks everyone

[cunning needle]

we're also here to give snarky answers to silly questions

[arctic cloud]

just let the asshole be an asshole, seems to be the only thing he is here for atm

[subtle tundra]

im neurotic

yes im an asshole

[cunning needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449080055893590017/1280746470815043646/456.gif

[subtle tundra]

and im helping you

[quiet oar]

I mean

[wise gull]

Hi i’m drunk and just got here but who cares about stats just sim

[quiet oar]

Varas is always like this

[fast mural]

You are so good Varas?

[dusty crescent]

I just want to be loved..

[quiet oar]

you learn to see him as a meme

[subtle tundra]

thanks

[wise gull]

Also assa stats are so close it’s like irrelevant

[royal lantern]

varas is varas

yes varas can be a bit....direct

BUT varas is a guy you can listen to, he plays on a higher level then 99,99999% of people here

[fast mural]

It's a question bro

[quiet oar]

Hey Im Drunk how are you doin

[cunning needle]

and he answered the question

[subtle tundra]

yes im a top wow player who is bored at work

[cunning needle]

with the correct answer

[royal lantern]

if its about gameplay stuff, varas is almost always correct

[quiet oar]

Thats why he is called Gamer

[wise gull]

Your names drunk too? Wow

[dusty crescent]

never trust people with anime pfp

[wise gull]

The real answer is just get a bit extra haste because feels but it really doesn’t fucking matter lol

[cunning needle]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[wise gull]

Haste makes me feel better and play better therefore it’s bis

[cunning needle]

true

[quiet oar]

The most correct answer is

Use raidbots

[normal mist]

Feelcraft

[quiet oar]

and take what raidbots tells you

[cunning needle]

[arctic cloud]

the real answer is just stat dump vers and then blame the healer

[subtle tundra]

honestly if i had to choose a stat to get more of, based on FEELS
its crit

[cunning needle]

it's not about what is right, but what feels right

somethines you do the right thing

but it feels wrong

[subtle tundra]

2cp mutilates makes me want to mutilate myself

[cunning needle]

thats why you always just do what feels right

[fast mural]

@subtle tundra You are 8/8M mate?

[cunning needle]

💯

[novel star]

real as fuck lol

[normal mist]

2 cp at a time

[subtle tundra]

starting queen prog this week

[wise gull]

The more haste I have the less likely I am to burn teas by accident next patch

[cunning needle]

raidbots is telling me to get more mastery because i've stacked too much crit

[fast mural]

insane

[cunning needle]

but what the fuck does it know

im not listening to it

im stacking the fuck out of crit

[royal lantern]

allright, DN is up, time to get 7CP

mut

mut

mut

no energy

no energy

mut

envenom

🙂

[subtle tundra]

swear to god 4x mutilate in a row AAAAAAAAAAA

[cunning needle]

[subtle tundra]

MMMM MMMEOW

[quiet oar]

You know whats worse

[subtle tundra]

i have literally used tea in pure anger to get that DN up

[quiet oar]

Pressing Sinister strike 6 times

[subtle tundra]

cause it means youre outlaw?

[glacial crypt]

[novel star]

hasn’t everyone

[royal lantern]

yeha cus you Play Outlaw then

[hearty reef]

Pressing strike 2 times in dance

[novel star]

[hearty reef]

[arctic cloud]

outlaw icky

[quiet oar]

I mean you can press Sinister strike on Sub and Sin too iirc

[cunning needle]

this is why feelcraft > theorycraft

i know it says to not use tea when not in kingsbane

but like

i aint afking for 8 seconds man

[glacial crypt]

I will be playing outlaw on farm exclusively

[cunning needle]

im old but not that old

[novel star]

cringelaw

[arctic cloud]

even when outlaw was super good, I couldnt stand the playstyle

[royal lantern]

hey, the AWESOME auto tea useage in 2 weeks will do that for you

[glacial crypt]

You're not going to like my tattoo

[subtle tundra]

[novel star]

you know they have services to remove those

[glacial crypt]

Noooooo

[novel star]

u can always fix urself

[subtle tundra]

what if i dont play tea

huh

[arctic cloud]

assass no tea

sounds like a fever dream

[bleak spoke]

then u will be thirsty

[subtle tundra]

i can cook...

[glacial crypt]

It was free when I was in Vegas, I'll never remove it

[quiet oar]

Based

[dusty crescent]

i enjoy having 10 energy in single target and doing my taxes inbetween envenoms

[novel star]

this brotha delusional i fear

[glacial crypt]

Please play tea

[warm vortex]

Anyway to make a macro that kicks your focus target ad if you dont have a focus target, kick your current one instead

[arctic cloud]

My ancestors didnt throw that shit into the harbor just for me to sip on it in a video game

[quiet oar]

Yeah there is

[bleak spoke]

tea choice node would be nice

[quiet oar]

But i cant remember it

[cunning needle]

#showtooltip
/cast [@focus] Kick; Kick

that should do it... maybe

[bleak spoke]

it's /cast [@focus,exists] kick
/cast Kick

[loud hearth]

/use [@focus,harm,nodead][]Kick

[wise gull]

If things are relatively close I actually think feelscrafty can be better because of you feel better you play better

[quiet oar]

3 different versions

[cunning needle]

[wise gull]

Unironically

[agile wedge]

while talking about macros, how do you handle shadowstep? i tried mouseover but this ends up in dying due to a wing of a boss comes into my screen 😄

[cunning needle]

vuhdo and i assign right click on a frame to step to someone

[novel star]

i just click target ppl to step

[glacial crypt]

Just on your target

[novel star]

[bleak spoke]

i don't like the premise of it, i have mouseover set focus, so if i fail to set the proper focus in a scramble, i don't want to just kick my target for fun

[arctic cloud]

I couldnt imagine not having tea honestly, you do your opener then afk and watch poisons and bleeds tick lol

[glacial crypt]

Using mouseover I kept stepping to the boss xd

[agile wedge]

i was thinking about doing it on a tank, but iam unsure

[warm vortex]

thanks you two

[loud hearth]

Mouseover from raid frame

[glacial crypt]

Good plater nameplates help with this but your point is still an issue

[wise gull]

If it’s a specific encounter I would just have a macro to step to that person on a different key

I did that for sire p3

[quiet oar]

Trying to shadowstep someone on Queen and Dying because you stepped the queen

[glacial crypt]

This is beyond my capabilities I'm afraid 😭

[bleak spoke]

@glacial crypt i just figure it's like an autoforfeit situation if you put your kick on target in your focus kick y'know

cuz like either you'll get it right or you'll guarnateed brick the sitaution

[glacial crypt]

LEGIT

Or into anduin

Jailer

[bleak spoke]

many such cases

[novel star]

just velf racial?

[bleak spoke]

actually it's so bad on most endbosses

[glacial crypt]

With practice it gets a bit easier

[warm vortex]

Also just was able to make a rank 5 item at 636 on an alt for my main
feels amazing

[novel star]

[glacial crypt]

🙏

[rotund oak]

💀

[wise gull]

Macro a step to one of your mages and just put it on a dif key

[novel star]

velf is legit op man

i swear

[glacial crypt]

And guildies laugh at me

[arctic cloud]

here is a question, is it possible to mog the warglaives of azinoth for assassination? I farmed them mostly for collection but it would be cool to build a mog around them

[cunning needle]

no

[novel star]

it’s unnecessarily hard to use velf well

[bleak spoke]

yeh, but i've used set focus mouseover and focus kick that's blanked if i focus something that's not an enemy, and i really do think it's the correct hting to do

[novel star]

but when you do

it’s op

[bleak spoke]

i think mouseover is actually so troll tbh

but at the end whatever ppl are used to is probably going to be best

[loud hearth]

That's what the [harm,nodead] conditions are for

[bleak spoke]

yeh

[glacial crypt]

It's the same as quickcast in mobas

Just takes time to get used to

[crimson zephyr]

I think only DH can mog them

[arctic cloud]

I remember reading that once you unlock the mog is account wide

[midnight atlas]

no you can't mog glaives

[arctic cloud]

not all can use, but you can get them to drop on any toon

[crimson zephyr]

in tbc there was no dh so it was a normal sword but with DH they are actua lwarglaives

[sharp trellis]

Did you get your reply with the 0.15 % gem crit sim ? i struggle as well

[bleak spoke]

basically yeah

[quiet oar]

Or Sennarth

OR

Raszageth, when she did the unexpected turn

[wise gull]

a specified macro will always be better than having to look, move your mouse, and then perform an action

too many extra mental processes and more room for error

[glacial crypt]

There are so many 😭😭

[midnight atlas]

ppl say they work but my sim doesnt even try to match more than 1 type

im going to link it after i try again

[wise gull]

set button to do thing and press button when you need to do thing

[quiet oar]

Its a minimal upgrade

[wise gull]

[quiet oar]

to alter your gem colors

[midnight atlas]

still an upgrade

[sharp trellis]

yeah but then why it doesn't even show ?

[midnight atlas]

one minimal here + one minimal there = big dps

[wise gull]

one minimal here one minimal there = +2k dps

[quiet oar]

i mean you get an maximum of 0,6%

critical effect

and you cover 2 up with master crit

[midnight atlas]

i dont want to debate wether its useful or not, i want to know why sim doesnt do it, is it intentional and i need stats or is it bugged

[sharp trellis]

agree

[midnight atlas]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/33QfrFTD2rPjAuTXu5Hikh

i dont see a single pass where sims combines multiple gems idk

[quiet oar]

Dungeon Slice

THis sim takes forever

wtf

[sharp trellis]

?

[rocky raven]

i have a question for this item from timewalking ulduar raid.
is this trinket almost the double of skardys or is it to good to be true?
ps. with what other trinket should i pair it with?

[midnight atlas]

i could try a patchwerk sim with the st build idk

[thorny crown]

Treacherous Transmitter is it usable now?

[wise gull]

Transmitter has always been usable

[thorny crown]

Got ara and skardyns and got it from hc, some dude wants to buy for 200k, worth xD?

[wise gull]

It’s not hard

Is your skardyns hero track?

[quiet oar]

Hmm thats weird

[quiet oar]

Wdym by double

[lusty narwhal]

Void reaper trinket feels so troll

[midnight atlas]

double the value

[wise gull]

has there been any sims on the HC BRD daggers for offhand yet?

[midnight atlas]

i think you should sim it idk, looks good but could be bait

[rocky raven]

skardyn gives for example 5k mastery for 20 sec, while this gives 10k agi on approx same ilvl

[midnight atlas]

10k agi but skardin gives agi all the time, that one gives some crit

[rocky raven]

true, will sim it when i aquire some higher ilvl skardyn

[quiet oar]

Maybe this checkboxes?

[quiet oar]

Well yeah ok

[midnight atlas]

lol, thanks i will check that

[wise gull]

trinket just kind of seems like a worse transmitter no?

[quiet oar]

But skardyns has Agi and provides mastery per click

[wise gull]

it’s longer but less relevant after DM

[quiet oar]

Transmitter gives the same amount of Agility iirc

as the Wrathstone

[wise gull]

I’m not at my PC so can’t look at the heroic/mythic value

[warm vortex]

anyone know what gears you can add sockets to

[midnight atlas]

necklace, rings with auction house items, belt bracer, helm with vault socket

[nimble vector]

helm, belt, waist, jewellery

[warm vortex]

cheers

Prolly best call to add it to my bracer embelish as its 100% not getting replaced

[wise gull]

Ye 629 is 15k agi

[thorny crown]

ye

[wise gull]

Then sell it

They’re both close but skardyns doesn’t take a minigame

[inland bolt]

are you allowed to send logs in here asking for help? or is there another channel for that

[sharp trellis]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mnSBgPh5VoM4eo4SYnc2cX What do you think ? should i equip crystal ? M+

[late surge]

yes

[spice surge]

None of them seem worth it compared to a 636/639 dagger in offhand

[soft surge]

anyone else simming/droptimizing towards haste mastery gear now?

everything im simming is going haste mast

feels weird

[warm vortex]

You got me excited when you said bracers haha, does go on them X(

[late surge]

Im at like 17% haste

haste good

why do u think its weird

[soft surge]

dono nvm

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ks7tZr2L5h7dRjCfe7o9v3

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/p1FSJuTxoM3s1XNRggrPWL the silkran neck

[nimble vector]

the belt, bracer and head sockets need the item from the vault

[warm vortex]

Ohh ok

[soft surge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tev12gCMzUsVbACRsbvSbZ droptimzer for hybrid build and dungeon slice wants me chasing haste mast

[wise gull]

ty good to know

[warm vortex]

Tbh the sockets seem meh on their own but seem to be big once you get everything socketed

[soft surge]

wait thats patch work

[wise gull]

haste in m+ is pretty whack

[exotic gale]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[wise gull]

In a pretty mid level guild but man it felt good topping on bosses this week

Time to change my name colour again

[midnight atlas]

i got good parses this week also

[royal lantern]

yes, when there are not many updated logs, you will get those

[wise gull]

I didn’t mean logs I just meant compared to my guild

[midnight atlas]

i got 1.41 mil on council, i was popping

for 619 ilvl was pretty good

[wise gull]

1.15 on rash but i played pretty scuffed

still readjusting from sub

gonna move up guilds next tier but i’m nervous

i hate apping

[midnight atlas]

assa has some issue with timers, if boss runs you either pop kingsbane and accept you dont get full uptime during it, or you hold it until you get full uptime

[subtle tundra]

that literally goes for any spec

its not an assa thing

[woven shore]

Okkaay soo

Im really bad in m+

[midnight atlas]

yes.

[wise gull]

yes

[woven shore]

I dont know what it is but in some runs i deal more envenom damage than spatter

Wtf am i doing

[autumn wren]

I'm missing it in the FAQ. Why do we Fatebound open with garrote from stealth instead of ambush then garrote when we are specced into improved garrote?

[woven shore]

Let me give an example

[midnight atlas]

its very unforgiving for assa, i got my kb parries on ansurek pull and just jumped

[wise gull]

you aren’t applying spatter

[woven shore]

If you are opening on 7 enemy and there is one high prio in it which is tanky

How do you open

[hollow compass]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[woven shore]

Ambush garrot garrot rap rap
Er muti envenom mark shiv kb?

[wise gull]

2x garrotte rupture rupture mut fok CT

i think i’m drunk

[woven shore]

Ah fk forget ct

[autumn wren]

Not sure if you are responding to me.

Stealth, Garrote, Mutilate, Rupture, SnD, Muitlate, DM, Shiv, Kingsbane

[wise gull]

you need to mutilate your rupture target to apply spatter

[radiant shadow]

shed some light into the puzzling vault pls! https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dVuwAkzeFYG4e2trFPUjuR no idea what to do

[woven shore]

Yeees i know

The problem is i feel like everything is dying before i can get my full rotation on xD

Even on 10s sometimes

[woven shore]

Ah no sorry brother im not

[midnight atlas]

First pull you open with ambush (for deathstalker mark) -> garrote -> 2x ruptures -> mutilate (you got spatter on your target now) -> fan of knives -> crimson tempest -> fan of knives -> envenoms.

after that 1st pull you should have darkest night so you dont open with ambushes anymore, you go 2x garrote -> 2x rupture -> muttilate -> fok -> ct -> fok -> envenoms.

make sure you track spatter either with a weakaura or on plates, and refresh it with a mutilate.

[wise gull]

that’s ST

[autumn wren]

No worries, thank you!

[slim pebble]

It’s hard to tell with everything that’s going on in that sim, but I think it’s spyglass

[wise gull]

Do you only garrotte once if you don’t have mark?

[midnight atlas]

no, 2x so you get 6 cp

[woven shore]

Ok ok wait sooo

[fossil dust]

So is mutilating for caustic only periodic? And fok is prio?

[midnight atlas]

if you dont have mark and dont have darkest night you ambush + 1 garrote = max cp -> ruptures

[woven shore]

You are talking pulling group one into the next grp?

[midnight atlas]

fok is prio in 2x targets yes

[wise gull]

I ambush > garrotte > rupture x2 > garrotte > mut > tempest

[woven shore]

Why only garrote once

If there is like 7 enemy you dont want to silence them?

Atleast 6

[woven shore]

2 targets

Or after 2

[radiant shadow]

basically i got this trinkets but the main problem is im not even sure if its worth take any of those or take socket 😄

[woven shore]

I feel like on +3 enemys fok is barely giving me cp

[midnight atlas]

you can garrote again after ruptures if you want but it means your spatter will have to be postponed, or you can garrote in the start if the pack is dangerous.

anything 2 and more

[slim pebble]

Transmitter is ass to play so I would take the spyglass and not look back

[wise gull]

ye m+ is very reactionary and every pack is different

[midnight atlas]

like certain things come with knowledge of dungeon and your class, im giving you the opener and you will have to learn later on when to change stuff

[fossil dust]

Good to know! Thanks

[woven shore]

Yea ofc

So using Fok on TWO enemys is better than using mutilate

[wise gull]

transmitter is so easy idk why people have a problem with it

[woven shore]

Right?

[midnight atlas]

yeah because we're missing crit, its only first patch

still better than mutilating and starving of energy

[slim pebble]

It’s all fun and games until you have to collect an orb that’s in shit

[woven shore]

True

[wise gull]

just be conscious about your player direction

if it might be in something i just turn before i cast

[woven shore]

weasel so no SaD on aoe

[slim pebble]

I looted a Skardyns yesterday and sold my transmitter lol

[woven shore]

?

During m+ i forget to use sad sometimes

Just so much going on xd

[wise gull]

i’m definitely going to use skardyns when i finally get a hero one but coming from sub i’m used to transmitter

[woven shore]

My guild took me into +11 mists it wasnt so bad tho

[slim pebble]

It should definitely be up pretty much all the time in m+ given our talents

[woven shore]

But i think i couldve done so much better

[grim jay]

Crystal imo

[midnight atlas]

you can slice and dice after crimson tempest

[radiant shadow]

well the main think i notices is Ball/or the circle thing spawns "right" for example if you position yourself correctly it's almost impossible to miss it

[grim jay]

Spyglass is worse

[woven shore]

Yea but when do i use iit

[midnight atlas]

forgot about it, but in like 3 weeks we wont bother with snd anymore

[spice surge]

!transmitter

[woven shore]

Even on +7 enemys?

[grim jay]

North east ye

[wise gull]

it spawns 1oclock every time

[woven shore]

Or isnt it dmg loss

[spice surge]

is the bot down

[quiet oar]

!stats

[prisma monolith]

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

• Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
• Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
• Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results

[wise gull]

so you can turn to change where it’ll go

[quiet oar]

No its not

[woven shore]

Is this when the anniversary is coming

[grim jay]

Didnt ever see a transmitter command in here

[woven shore]

With the tea change shit

[grim jay]

Tbf

[midnight atlas]

yes, because your damage profile comes from doing dmg to 1 target and spreading that dmg from that target, to others through spatter. slice and dice helps with poison procs etc

[woven shore]

Ah ok

[slim pebble]

Anniversary is in 2 resets

[midnight atlas]

bleeds on other targets do damage, but mostly we use them for scent of blood stacks and energy regen.

[spice surge]

#subtlety message
Ok mb thought i enabled it for this channel too, but ye it spawns in the same spot

[woven shore]

Yea

However sometimes i feel like running out of energy on aoe

When rap and garr run out and its only on main target

[tawny pawn]

you can always FoK into ruptures

[wise gull]

my hardest thing about m+ is dropping mark between pulls

[woven shore]

BUT ct ofc on all enemys

[slim pebble]

Gotta get them bleeds out again

[grim jay]

Shouldnt ever happen

[woven shore]

Okay true

[wise gull]

and then you lose mark and the tank chain pulls

[tawny pawn]

you should gain energy when targets die.

[wise gull]

rage

[grim jay]

Always maintain 5 ruptures if possible