assassination

[dawn heath]

i guess the buffs are coming in handy in raid

[odd dew]

So I got heroic Mandate and Transmitter what would you guys think is generally better

[dawn heath]

i 99 log every fight now

[royal lantern]

use after cds, hope it crits, stonks

[grim jay]

Its basically beacon without aoe, castable while moving, execute damage and a cd reduction

So yes but no

[eager light]

Hey, Double dawnthread lining doesn't stack?

[spice surge]

!dawnthread

[prisma monolith]

Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.

[zealous wolf]

do you guys play atrophic or numbing in m+?

[royal lantern]

you realise that this is mostly cus not many logs exists with the buff right

[royal lantern]

numbing

[fresh tiger]

does anyone know if caustic spatter can reach off the 2nd boss onto his adds?

[royal lantern]

atrophic in keys is a thing you can do in REALLY high keys

like, title push range

[grim jay]

Just use atrophic, m+ is numbing enough

[royal lantern]

otherwhise its just mindnumbing

[grim jay]

[royal lantern]

ofc not lol

[sonic fossil]

Hey guys I was wondering what to craft with my 3rd spark, so I was thinking either a wrist or and off-hand dagger but I'm not really sure if off-hand matters as much on rogue

[grim jay]

Sim

Offhand sucks

[royal lantern]

offhand does nothing

[arctic socket]

Bracers better

[royal lantern]

mainhand = giga

offhand = lol

[elfin haven]

I had to beg to get into this 9 stone vault. "I'd rather have a ranged than a rogue "

[sonic fossil]

Yeah that's what I thought as well

Thanks

[grim jay]

Thats how it always is

People usually prefer ranged over melee

[green pier]

people don't invite rogues i don't get it.

[arctic socket]

You Qued into a group with an arms warrior????

[green pier]

we smash in M+ right now

I only lose to rets, they be broken

[odd dew]

Heroic Mandate Trinket or Heroic Transmitter? What would you guys pick.

[grim jay]

The less damage they deal the more you can do

[arctic socket]

Mandate

[arctic socket]

But a fucking arms warrior in m+ is wild

That spec is a meme

Compared to fury

[red schooner]

Apply tricks to the warrior, get the warrior killed, its free damage

[rotund oak]

thats how it is,stupid ppl ignoring rogues because they dont know the class at all

[grim jay]

An equally skilled enhancer or fdk should usually outdps you, but I didnt see any thus far either

[grim jay]

Same for sub and there still are some

[elfin haven]

Ended with 6 mins of silences from garrote

[arctic socket]

Yeah but at least sub can actually do somewhat of aoe

Arms though? Naw

[green pier]

frost looks cracked, aye. not come across any really gooduns yet

[grim jay]

Fdk is probably the number one cracked spec

Rn

[royal lantern]

i did more dmg on my shity 597 arms alt then a 615 fury in a dungeon

first time playing arms in m+ aswell

fury players are just a special kind of stupid

[arctic socket]

That’s wild

[plucky patio]

guess i take it?

[arctic socket]

Nah

[crisp pine]

Nah

[royal lantern]

nah, overrated

[crisp pine]

Take the socket

better luck next week

[fierce bison]

can I use anima charged points instead of ramping to 7 for the deathstalker charge now?

[arctic socket]

Transmitter is lot better

[royal lantern]

for 2 more weeks yes

[dawn heath]

cant tell if i've gotten better or if the buffs are carrying me

[arctic socket]

Well if you never parsed 99 before buff

[rotund oak]

sick,they still dont care coz ''FDK does more''.They will always find an excuse for stupidity,especially on that range.

[arctic socket]

And now you’re parsing 99s

[cursive frost]

Normal or heroic?

[arctic socket]

All of the sudden

[dawn heath]

hc

[arctic socket]

When not many people raided

[royal lantern]

mate

no logs exists yet

you play with buffs

[arctic socket]

You’re also doing heroic instead of mythic

[grim jay]

You can tell by looking at your previous dps and then just adding on top what the buffs got you, but likely its the buffs bcs barely any new logs

[cursive frost]

Just think, you got a 5% buff vs people last week

[royal lantern]

thats it lol

[elfin haven]

How u die on brood tho

[thin plinth]

Hi guys did rogue get buffed today ?

[dawn heath]

mele by spider

[worldly sail]

these people are just jealous of your 99s

[dawn heath]

caustic pulled aggro

[grim jay]

No

Fake news

Everyone is lying

[thin plinth]

😦

[cursive frost]

Actually nerfed

Reroll boomkin

[grim jay]

Cap

[rotund oak]

parasites fixate btw

just sayin

if spatter agro's over ur tank its sus

[dawn heath]

ye he was omega sus

kinda hard to tell

its been abit jump of gear between kills

[rotund oak]

''a bit''

u basicly went from dirt to <5%

[cursive frost]

That kill time is really good too

[grim jay]

11 ilvl do potentially make up for the 200k diff accounting for buffs

[rotund oak]

even without the buffs

with one external he can even go higher

[grim jay]

Ima external you

[dawn heath]

think i had pi

i didnt ask for it

[arctic socket]

Beg your group for pi

[dawn heath]

but i got it

[rotund oak]

come to me bb

[dawn heath]

is pi 15 or 20s?

[arctic socket]

Then get a Aug evoker to dick ride you

[rotund oak]

😉

[cursive frost]

Are we PI candidate again now?

[grim jay]

But aug =/= logs

[arctic socket]

No

[royal lantern]

? why should that have changed?

[cursive frost]

Kinda good thing

[rotund oak]

maybe,i think firemage or dk might be better

[dawn heath]

i mean

in heroic pugs like i do

[royal lantern]

pi is based in value, not on dmg done lol

[rose wharf]

Do we get a new spark today?

[dawn heath]

just pi the best player

in the raid

[cursive frost]

Not that simple

[royal lantern]

you give Pi to the specs that gain the most value out of it, the dmg they do overall doesnt matter there

[rotund oak]

just pi the hunter chick for onlyfans content bruh

[cursive frost]

Could be best sub rogue in world and a mediocre dk and dk still getting more value

[dawn heath]

boss dam

[arctic socket]

So real for that

[dawn heath]

ye there are a few exceptions

some specs are horrendous with haste

but

if u have a blue logging bm hunter and a 99 logging ret paladin

just send it to the ret

gotta respect the hustle

u can def feel the energy regen with pi active

its pretty nice on sin

[spring moat]

Tier set buffs are pretty noticeable imo. I gained 200-300k on some fights

[rotund oak]

we are back

[spring moat]

I did my first 1mil single target boss last night 🙌

[steel ridge]

how does a 5% ST buff translate to 300k dps?

maybe you just got better at presing buttons, king.

[arctic socket]

He locked in

[spring moat]

That could be it. I didn’t get any upgrades or anything good from fault

[woven shore]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/area-52/yunetsumago

Can someone tell me what i couldve done better

[serene solar]

Maybe his whole raid team got good upgrades and they had a great kill timer lol

[woven shore]

I hard fucked up logs on mythic holly fuck

[woven shore]

Wym?

You mean me ?

[arctic socket]

No not you

[woven shore]

[spring moat]

Last week this one.

100k+ 🤔

[woven shore]

Do you guys play Crimson tempest on Ulgrax

Probably right?

Mythic not heroic

[gentle gyro]

end me

[past panther]

I definitely noticed a difference between last week and this one

[gentle gyro]

that's the bad karma I get for having Skardyn's last week

[arctic socket]

If your group is bad without much aoe sure?

But majority of the time you just splatter

[royal lantern]

first boss?

[woven shore]

Yes

[royal lantern]

LMAO no

wtf

[past panther]

I just now got a champion track tier chest that chest would be a godsend for me

[subtle tundra]

there is absolutely 0 variation between each pull, all that damage came from the buffs
holy fuck ill strangle myself

haha

[royal lantern]

you probably dont even play spatter on him

[woven shore]

Alr so imma play Ct

Took a little while to kill adds

[arctic socket]

The first boss?

[gentle gyro]

got all 5 set pieces on hero track already, so

[past panther]

Luckyyyy

[arctic socket]

Spallter goes hard huh

[woven shore]

Lool ofc you play spatter

There are like 13 + adds

[royal lantern]

our warrior/dk explode them before i can do a single envenom

[past panther]

I don’t have too much time for m+ with irl. ALL of my tier set has been vault/forge thing.

[woven shore]

130m-50m hp

[subtle tundra]

on mythic yea spatter gaming

[past panther]

I only have 1 hero track tier and its helm. I just now got my chest from vet to champ last night lmao

[woven shore]

Bruh

[arctic socket]

You’re still getting splatter damage which will deal more damage then internal

[royal lantern]

im convinced they keep their cds

[arctic socket]

Now CT naw

[royal lantern]

just for the adds

[woven shore]

XDDD

[subtle tundra]

well theiri cds probably line up

1.5min

[woven shore]

Hahahaha

[spring moat]

Speed of kill also makes parse better x? Interesting

[woven shore]

Yea for sure

Especially frost dks

Keep breath

And then crazy logs

[subtle tundra]

wdym you guys dont hold kb

?

you get same amount of uses

just less on boss

nvm not telling trade secrets

anymore

[woven shore]

Well is it even worth

[arctic socket]

Holding kb seems brutal

[woven shore]

If one BIG add lives for 7sec

Yea

[subtle tundra]

on mythic it does

[woven shore]

Especially bc big burst rota

I hate that so much

[arctic socket]

What add lives that long

[subtle tundra]

the mythic adds

[arctic socket]

On the first two bosses

[subtle tundra]

fym

on first boss

[weary vale]

Hello guys! I’m very undecided between the main… pretty new because played only 2 months during season 3 dragonflight… I mean I want to try to get high on dedication/gear and raid/mythic…
but I should focus one character I guess… because I feel that I couldn’t handle 2+ characters maintaining high progress on both….
I really like vdh… but started lvling assassin rogue and it feels so cool

[woven shore]

The ulgrax mythic adds with 130m hp +

Or 158m if i remember right

[royal lantern]

? yes sure lol

kill timers are the #1 thing about parses

[woven shore]

But this guy doesnt seem wrong

Holding kb feels TERRIBLE

Especially bc mark is not up

[subtle tundra]

didnt for me

hold mark for 15 seconds

not a big deal

[woven shore]

No bc mark is still on cd

[flint tinsel]

who needs Skardyns, when u get this bad boy?

[subtle tundra]

what i mean on first boss

[spring moat]

Is there a way to see your performance without timer involved ?

[woven shore]

I feel like Horror is easier than Ulgrax

😂😂😂😂

[spark mason]

is there a spreadsheet yet like there was in SL that says every ability that can be cloaked, evasioned, or feint?

[subtle tundra]

use first cds
hold 2nd kb and use in intermission
wait for kb in 2nd phase(hold mark)
hold 4th kb for intermission

[woven shore]

With second phase you mean after feeding right

[subtle tundra]

yes

[arctic socket]

Yeah

[woven shore]

Alr will do

However

How do i have 56 log on horror

[subtle tundra]

i have a 99 log thats bugged and doesnt show up 😦

[woven shore]

What the fuck besides my trinkets am i doing wrong

Do you try to keep up poisons all time on horror

[jade echo]

i won gg

[subtle tundra]

i play SS and vanish garrote them

[ripe carbon]

grats

[subtle tundra]

and swap to them if i have DN

[winged sun]

assa > outlaw

[spring briar]

Rip

[woven shore]

I hate this fucking guy

[sharp trellis]

If i gem my wrist crafted , if i recraft did i keep it ?

[gentle gyro]

welcome to the club of Myth Track Skardyn's owners

[ripe carbon]

yes

[woven shore]

[rotund oak]

weird flexing ppl

[gentle gyro]

hey I got squat this week, it all evens out

[woven shore]

I did batol +10
And still get declined batol +7

I swear if i get declined on 4 or 5 imma jump

[gentle gyro]

wouldn't you wanna go +7 minimum for hero track?

[woven shore]

Yes

But why 7 if i can get higher

[sharp grove]

do we run different talents with the new ST buff?

[woven shore]

St buffs?

[shut coral]

stupid q, if Whet > 1k, and out of wax, would you go the runes (buzzing / hissing) or mana oil?

[rotund oak]

que ur own key,stand up on ur feet walk a bit,drink something,reque later on

dungeons wont vanish

[jade echo]

"No we aren't changing talents, follow the blood still sucks ass and none of this impacts talents on first glance, vicious venoms is still good, imp gar is still good. Play whatever you were playing before "

[tall atlas]

is transmitter really as bad as the guides make it out to be

[winged sun]

Do u queue up to get tilted or what

[rotund oak]

no the guide clearly wants to mislead u

[subtle tundra]

easier time

you do a 10 and deplete and have 30 deaths and people leave

vs chill +7 20 min run

[woven shore]

Not vanish but Bubble away from me

[gentle gyro]

just run your own key 4Head

Wdym you need a specific dungeon, just run your own key

[woven shore]

Did it with my cracked new guild

[rotund oak]

relax friend,take a min or two to cool off

[zenith prairie]

9 grimmy b is where it’s at

[woven shore]

These fuckers took me into that +10 X.X

[subtle tundra]

are you gonna run 30 grim batols with your guild only?

[woven shore]

Had 4 deads

10sec over timing

[subtle tundra]

nah youre gonna pug and youd rather spend your time in +7

[woven shore]

If i could id do everything with these people

[subtle tundra]

oh honeymoon phase

[woven shore]

We have a shadow priest who i believe was part of top 100 CE atLEAST

[subtle tundra]

ok?

[brisk crystal]

Ovi'nax's Mercurial Egg on bloodmallet seems to be good now, it's very difficult to use right?

[woven shore]

Id call him daddy

[subtle tundra]

and i play with mdi champ and sometimes id rather pug

[woven shore]

Disgusting

[subtle tundra]

[woven shore]

Lick his feet

Maybe he will give you gold

[subtle tundra]

he begs for gold

[woven shore]

[subtle tundra]

he is indebted

[woven shore]

Arent they all

[arctic socket]

How much gold does he spend on consumables

[woven shore]

I bought all pots everything for like 120k

Now im good for a month for sure

Still got my Eu acc gotta sell wow tockens on it

And trade for us

Hope the prices are sick in the head rn like 350k eu

[subtle tundra]

lol no

everyone is buying gold with real money

so price dropped

[tiny leaf]

Guys ,, is Wrathstone any good for us ?

on Assa spec ?

it is from Timewalking dungeon

[ripe carbon]

you can sim? idunno

[tiny leaf]

i can your right 🙂

[arctic socket]

What ilvl does it drop as

[tiny leaf]

597

[ripe carbon]

as champ/hero

[subtle tundra]

626 sims 1k less that 639 skardyn for me

[rotund oak]

to all the outlaws in here,sub got a huge aoe buff,deathstalker shreds everything now

might as well jump there

fotmroll memes all over

[arctic socket]

How do I get that as a 626

[ripe carbon]

from timewaling raid boss quest

[arctic socket]

I don’t have a 639 skardyns yet

[ripe carbon]

you get the quest at start of raid from the panda lady

[grim jay]

Nerd, already having the trinket smh

[ripe carbon]

and chance drop from the cache in it

[arctic socket]

Ah so a gamble

[subtle tundra]

i dont? i just simmed it

[ripe carbon]

you gotta be real lucky

[pastel ermine]

is it naughty if we go over 50% mastery?

[ripe carbon]

otherwise champion track is a drop from boss

[grim jay]

Double nerd, simming tw stuff you dont have

[subtle tundra]

just wanted to know...

if you dont have m skardyn its probably worth trying to get it

[grim jay]

Definitely

And I hate it

[arctic socket]

A crit stick with agi on use

Sounds strong

[tall jay]

Question about the transmitter trinket: someone said that the mini game (if you don’t get jump) is always up and to the right, collect balls/stand on platform. Any truth to this rumor???

[marble hemlock]

not a rumor, thats how it works, yes

[tall jay]

Oh, nice! I didn’t know that

[subtle tundra]

just like branch you can position to spawn it how you want

[tall jay]

I have it 8/8 champion and not using it anymore lol

[neon lantern]

Is true we are receive a buffs for the rogue ?

[tall jay]

I was getting frustrated missing the ball buff

[marble hemlock]

not a rumor, we did indeed receive buffs

[neon lantern]

where i can read the patch notes ? .)

[marble hemlock]

where they always are

[tall jay]

Pins 🙂

[marble hemlock]

they were reposted on wowhead, official bluepost, pick your poison

[sharp forge]

What u guys think about Empowering Crystal of anub? any good for sin?

[rotund oak]

yeah its cool

[arctic socket]

Very strong in m+

[spring prawn]

we gamin

[rotund oak]

i swear,ive seen less log flexing in the pirate channel lately

[proper hare]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/suudg6jdZdUE38RRXvYBBq elp

[marble hemlock]

what do you need help with?

seems pretty obvious to me

[proper hare]

feels weird taking tier

[marble hemlock]

why

[spring prawn]

ocarina bis

[proper hare]

610 hero track head already, just havent had crest to upgrade it

[arctic socket]

Them treasure seeker boots kinda hot

[proper hare]

got a champion neck at 606

[strong sleet]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[marble hemlock]

well then you dont take tier obviously

[grim jay]

Well people are just happy they did hc early after buffs

[marble hemlock]

if you already have hero track helmet, that looks like a socket angle to me

[proper hare]

yeah might be

[grim jay]

Ima parse real hard on mythic later

Believe

[proper hare]

im just bad at choosing and im surprised that sacbrood aint good at all sim wise

[rotund oak]

[marble hemlock]

thats cause its only 619 and you have 2 very good trinkets

[rotund oak]

im gonna int deathstalker sub keys

[frozen jasper]

is 60% a generous uptime for dawnthread simming - trying m+ sim for that

[proper hare]

skardyn champion

[marble hemlock]

think you can go higher than that for m+

theres not nearly as much rot damage in m+ as there is in raids

youre either dead or 100% for the most part

[brisk plank]

I almost always have it at 80-85% in +10's

[grim jay]

Not if your healer is a dps hoe that heals very late because he gotta deal damage

[marble hemlock]

tell them youre playing dawnthread and you deal more damage by them healing you above 80, than they deal catweaving or whateverthefuck theyre doing

[frozen jasper]

nice ty

[grim jay]

I wish he would listen. Its some m+ andy streamer stuff

They arent strong on the logic side

[rotund oak]

irrelevant but u know what month is it right?

[subtle tundra]

what other embellishments are there huh

[marble hemlock]

ascension

[subtle tundra]

ive literally only heard of dawnthread and ascension

[grim jay]

Duskthread

[marble hemlock]

stiletto

[subtle tundra]

OK BUDDY

[marble hemlock]

imagine making a unique craftable rogue dagger

and then its utter dogshit

[spice surge]

Very strange indeed

[subtle tundra]

wait duskthread is real

[quartz osprey]

!craft

[subtle tundra]

i thought it was meme

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[grim jay]

Na mate I'd never lie to you

[dawn elm]

Is the broodtwister a simbait or is it bis alongside transmitter

Sims the highest for me atm

But got no idea how the bot plays around it

[spice surge]

It doesnt

Its just maxed at 30 stationary stacks

[dawn elm]

Ait so kind of a sim bait?

[spice surge]

No

Because you'd get more value out of it if you played around it

[grim jay]

But it sucks to do

[spice surge]

This is true ye

[dawn elm]

Ait, so is it pressing it 30 sec after transmitter or with kb?

[shell kraken]

!wax

[prisma monolith]

Bubbling Wax can once again be applied to weapons of all levels
There might still be bugs and odd things happening to it that hasn't been tested yet, but it seems to be working based on initial testing

[shell kraken]

Any news about wax or can we just use it safely?

[spice surge]

I thought it didnt share its on-use cd with other trinkets

[dawn elm]

Use it on mh

Ohh

I got no idea

Just assumed

[whole wadi]

i just crafted my 2nd dawnthread lining, but im not getting any stats from 2nd thread.

[spice surge]

Ideally you have like 15/15 and then lock it in during deathmark

[spice surge]

!dawnthread

[prisma monolith]

Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.

[urban moat]

Hey, i remember hearing abt this topic but can't find where so i ask. Is it a big dps loss when tank link packs and we can't stealth or not really?

[whole wadi]

thank

[brisk plank]

!restealth

[prisma monolith]

Explanation of why stealth benefits aren't as important as you might think:

• Garrote is roughly 10-12% of people's damage in a key, most of which is already empowered/cleaved
• Most energy spreading will come from Rupture to maintain scent of blood, not garrote
• Without a Trace (+1 vanish charge) only grants roughly 2 additional casts across a whole dungeon
• While Without a Trace can allow for better vanish timings, the difference in damage provided is at most replacing a non-stealth opener with a stealth opener (you aren't necessarily getting "added" casts, just "better" casts)
• You can argue that it "feels bad", but numerically there is very little ground to stand on, the dps simply isn't there.

[dawn elm]

Ait, so your holding it for second dm?

[subtle tundra]

can you do a !duskthread

[oak eagle]

how do i add bubbling wax to my sim?

[urban moat]

ty

[tiny leaf]

so , the Wrathstone champion mode is 4k dps + then Skardins 🙂

[rain wraith]

whaaat

[tiny leaf]

Skardins 626 , for ST

[rain wraith]

can someone link upgraded ulduar trinkets?

[subtle tundra]

you can add them yourself

[spice surge]

Protip: use topgear instead of gear compare

[rain wraith]

At work rn.

[tiny leaf]

ok ill try , thx

[subtle tundra]

thats dslice

[spice surge]

But ye wrathstone is decent

If you manage to get infinitely lucky and get it from your weekly quest chest

[tiny leaf]

i got it from the boss

i looted it

in the raid ..

and a hunter wants it 🙂

he will ggive 100k :))

[subtle tundra]

true

[grim jay]

Ima buy stuff from people that dont know better aswell

[subtle tundra]

i should go in there and sell it if it drops

[grim jay]

I usually only pay 20k that way

Which is fine

[tiny leaf]

i mean ,, can we get it 626 ?

or 619 is the max ?

[grim jay]

Yes through the chest

[subtle tundra]

some hunter wanted to pay 500k for skardyn first week

[grim jay]

So unlikely

[spice surge]

#assassination message

[subtle tundra]

shouldve sold it cause i got mythic skardyn....

[oak eagle]

i assume the tw box at the end when you turn in the yogg quest

hey, theres a way to add bubbling wax to our sims right? from the custom apl bit?

[balmy dome]

If I have a hero track transmitter is it worth farming the GB trinket?

[tiny leaf]

thank you

[balmy dome]

Sims aren't a good indicator I feel like

[subtle tundra]

i probably wouldnt

depends how much you enjoy the minigame

[grim jay]

They for sure are

[mighty rapids]

Transmitter sims better for me in every situation....but people dont like it I dont find it bad to use personally

[normal mist]

That's just it

I hate serum

[balmy dome]

Sorry I shoulda specified, not in dungeons

[normal mist]

Yet I have to use it

[grim jay]

They still are

[oak eagle]

i just hate using transmitter

[balmy dome]

Just use dungeon slice?

[grim jay]

Dungeonslice sims even are for gearing purposes only

Ye

[balmy dome]

It's weird bc top sin rogues are using GB trinket over transmitter

so I was a little confused

[oak eagle]

its just it lines up better with our big cds

[royal lantern]

stop looking at "top" players

[grim jay]

Bcs they dont wanna do the minigame

[royal lantern]

jesus christ

[grim jay]

But its still better

For quite some

[oak eagle]

but yeah sims yourself, dont always look at what the top people are running

[balmy dome]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-zen-buddha-omm-spongebob-squarepants-gif-10692319061302954036

[past panther]

I also hate serum lol. I got 3 back to back to back and then 2 in back to back vaults on hero track. I’m still not using it because it feels so shit.

[royal lantern]

looking at top logs/r.io is 1 of the worst things you can do in this game

[balmy dome]

thank you for the help

[normal mist]

I must because I have nothing better 😦

[oak eagle]

i used serum for the first week of the expac

[balmy dome]

For sure it can be a deterent, but as a guideline and to get an idea I think it's useful

[grim jay]

The minigame imo isnt that bad btw

[past panther]

I just took the dps loss because I’m not making the 1 rogue spec that feels good to use feel astronomically worse

[soft shale]

if you think you hate serum you are not stuck with fucken kiss of death

mamma mia that trinket

[oak eagle]

until I got a Vet Skardyns

[balmy dome]

Yeah I use it in sub during raid so I'm used to it, was just curious!

[normal mist]

I use it right before env->dm

[balmy dome]

Wasn't sure about sims mostly bc it does sim better for me (transmitter that is)

[normal mist]

It's okayish

[kindred hinge]

No. Because they adapt their build to specific situqtion that is a min max to what they will do at instant T and most of the time is irreleavnt for 99%of the rogue pop

[past panther]

I got a transmitter for my vault and used it in the first 5 bosses of raid and didn’t mind it at all

[queen narwhal]

is wrathstone trinket from uldar good for assa now ?

12,700 agi for 20 sec

[kindred hinge]

Better to understand the basics and the theory that will then allow you to modify to fit needs

[nova aspen]

!fuu

[prisma monolith]

Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version

[normal mist]

That wrathstone trinket seems weird

[shy nest]

[normal mist]

Is it in a 2 min cd?

[queen narwhal]

yes

[normal mist]

Because it gives way too much fucking agility

[queen narwhal]

i mean is it better than my 639 skardyns?

[normal mist]

How much does serum gives?

[normal mist]

You can try to sim

[grand trail]

nice vault 🙂

[sharp viper]

nice simc

[oak eagle]

i feel it would only be better than a Myth track Skardyn on Hero track

[sharp viper]

👀

[oak eagle]

smart rogue people, theres a way to add bubbling wax to our sims right? or are we just shit outta luck?

[normal mist]

The dps is so shit it doesn't matter

[sharp trellis]

is it normal that i feel like my boss damage in m+ is below average ?

[grim jay]

I would laugh if they nerf it

[normal mist]

It should be @sharp trellis

[oak eagle]

oh is it? aight ill just send my sim the way it is

[normal mist]

Everything is shit this expansion

Embellishment doesn't scale with ilvl

Consumables like whetstone and so on are just totally whatever

[grim jay]

Whetstone is pretty decent actually

Dont think the runes were much better

[past panther]

Embellishments definitely feel weak

Enchantments on the other hand feel really strong

[grim jay]

But I also cant say that I simmed them

Frequently

[normal mist]

Yeah but who's paying 10+k for enchants?

[tawny geyser]

Me 😛

[grim jay]

I do?

[tawny geyser]

Big boy..

[grim jay]

I bought radiance at 40k

Even

[normal mist]

Y'all rich

LOl

[oak eagle]

i guess i could send a 10k enchant on my myth weap now

[normal mist]

I'm using DF enchants

[oak eagle]

since im the only rogue in myraid group, ill always be the one getting the myth track bloodbound dagger

seems like it drops every week for us

[grim jay]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-zoro-one-piece-roronoa-zoro-nine-sword-style-ashura-gif-26746941

Littlecap soon

[oak eagle]

true

[normal mist]

If I were to actually properly enchant my gear, I'd have to spend like 100k

[past panther]

I work a lot so I just swipe for tokens if I really need something

[normal mist]

And I ain't doing that

[grim jay]

I probably spend like 250k on enchants sockets etc

[normal mist]

Fair

[past panther]

Gathering is also still pretty profitable

[oak eagle]

i shoulda bought these enchants monday night

when everything was cheap

yeah ive made probably like 500k from skinning

[grim jay]

Boosting is decent aswell

[normal mist]

I've bought 4 socket slots and I ain't switching my rings ever LOL

[grim jay]

[sharp trellis]

Someone know how to sim properly our gem set up ?

[grim jay]

I socketed rings for sub and for sin even

[sharp viper]

going outlaw?

[normal mist]

Y'all swimming in gold

[grim jay]

Im kinda swimming atleast

Bcs the weather is rlly bad rn

[warm tide]

yo, how much haste should i have?

[normal mist]

Above 0

[oak eagle]

i finally transmogged for the first time this expac

feels nice to not be ugly asf

[tiny leaf]

hah 😄

[thorny crown]

now u gotta show mog man..

[normal mist]

[tiny leaf]

y

[oak eagle]

there

[normal mist]

Little cap about to be cooked

[oak eagle]

oh yeah

and idc

ive had this mog since bfa

and im never changing it

[normal mist]

Oh it's actually nice

[oak eagle]

i like what works

[normal mist]

Small pirate vibe

[grim jay]

Freaking pirate

[oak eagle]

bro my guildies flame me for it for 0 reason

[grim jay]

Eww

[oak eagle]

i used to be an outlaw guy ok

[grim jay]

Ewwwww

[oak eagle]

i went with the outlaw theme

and just havent changed it

[grim jay]

Ewwwwwwwww

[spice spire]

You can’t just call someone a racist in chat damn

[normal mist]

It isn't bad

[grim jay]

Everything outlaw related is inherently bad

[oak eagle]

hush child

[thorny crown]

grinding to get the last pieces for mine

[grim jay]

Got called child

If they knew

[oak eagle]

the only thing i recognize from there is the sepulcher helm

[normal mist]

That's a big waist of time

[oak eagle]

oh and waist of time

[spice spire]

That’s the first time Davyn has ever been called that

[tired gull]

Belt of time

[spice spire]

Man came out of the womb 54

[oak eagle]

good

i will continue to call them child

[grim jay]

Dagger is sanctum

[tired gull]

I run the dazaralor mog

Bony boy

[thorny crown]

its from like 4 sets i think, ye daggers from sanctum and back also from SL

[grim jay]

I usually run elite mogs from times where elite mogs were actually worth something

[spice spire]

Ok boomer

[tired gull]

I still think it’s bs we can’t mog azzinoth glaives

[oak eagle]

i mean

they are swords

but yeah

kinda cringe how outlaw cant

[grim jay]

I will soon join you in the retirement home

[oak eagle]

even if you have the achieve

[spice spire]

?

[past panther]

ya im a turbo casual tho im only 613 ilvl

[oblique garnet]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[past panther]

if i had the ability/capacity to i would tho

[grim jay]

If I was born 54, that would make me 82, which would make you 85 or something

[spice spire]

Nah dog ur an old man

[grim jay]

The lower boosts are kinda fine aswell ngl

[tired gull]

Hi from 610

[normal mist]

Oh

I bought a new wallet

[spice spire]

You got 50 years on me

[past panther]

me and my brother could definitely boost like 4-6’s

[normal mist]

Y'all wanna see?

[past panther]

we just need a good tank

[past panther]

ive always thought about boost being for like mythic level content

and some heroic at the start

[grim jay]

Nah you can boost like m +7 n stuff

Even m0s

Or leveling

[normal mist]

(I'll wait until someone says yes)

[oak eagle]

send it

[vagrant schooner]

Hello guys! can we sim Bubble wax? what combination is the best between bubble wax and ironclaw?

[grim jay]

See DN?

[past panther]

what’s the leveling boost? is it still the 4+4 or dungeon spam?

[grim jay]

Idk, you usually have to do a certain method

That the community approves of

[tired gull]

Yes

[subtle tundra]

i also need a new wallet!

[past panther]

i remember in BFA it was that one pirate dungeon that you could pull every mob into each boss

[wind totem]

yo guys, do i pick chest here?

[subtle tundra]

ok i wouldnt buy a wow themed one

[past panther]

that’s cute how’s the quality

[subtle tundra]

chest and dont catalyse it

[tiny leaf]

Chest

yes yes , dont catalyse it

[stable cove]

Thank u for all ur guys help - bc of ur help i got 98 parse on mythic sikran and 99 rash

[wind totem]

ait huge tyty

[normal mist]

It probably fits my gf better just because the fabric makes it hard to shove in the back pocket

[past panther]

nice

[grim jay]

Nerd, looks good. Did you buy frostmourne aswell?

[tired gull]

Wallet in back pocket still? Sure you’re not 80?

[subtle tundra]

uh usually women are the ones to use the back pocket

[normal mist]

What

WHAT

[subtle tundra]

ive literally only seen women do it

[past panther]

im a shameless nerd who grew up poor so i proudly embrace the cringe i didn’t get to be when i was a kid/teen. I happy wear graphic tees and buy collectibles and merch and shit

[subtle tundra]

not a single guy

[spice spire]

Wat

[grim jay]

People that carry their wallet in their back pocket are special

[past panther]

almost every man i know irl does wallet in back pocket

[grim jay]

[normal mist]

Wtf are you guys on about

[oak eagle]

if i had a back pocket

i would

[tiny leaf]

have a good day guys ,, bb

[oak eagle]

but i dont wear jeans

[subtle tundra]

i have never once in my life thought about using a back pocket

[oak eagle]

because i hate them

[normal mist]

That's WHERE YOU PUT YOUR WALLET

[oak eagle]

youre just a weird dude varas

[subtle tundra]

and sit on your wallet?

[tired gull]

I don’t like having misaligned hips when I sit down

[normal mist]

Obviously not

[grim jay]

If you wanna get it stolen ye, also its uncomfy to sit on that huge thing

[past panther]

my left back pocket is for wallet and my right back pocket is for tools for when im working on something at work

[normal mist]

You take it out to sit

[subtle tundra]

ok?

and i have 2 deep pockets in front

[past panther]

tf you got a quadruple fold wallet?

[grim jay]

Doesnt sound efficient

[spice spire]

That’s what she said?

[subtle tundra]

1 for phone 1 for wallet

[grim jay]

Dog?

[past panther]

my wallet is also like not enough beneath my cheek when im sitting

[subtle tundra]

left is wallet, right is phone

[spice spire]

Yeah homie?

[normal mist]

Right front pocket is weird for wallet

[oak eagle]

bro varas is just weird

[grim jay]

Just hawk tuah and sit on that thang

[oak eagle]

left pocket for your wallet?

[spice spire]

Hate that

[oak eagle]

it feels SO wrong to put my wallet in my left pocket

but maybe this guy has an iphone

[past panther]

varas def built a little different

[oak eagle]

and itll get scratched in 2 seconds with his wallet in the same pocket

[grim jay]

I have my wallet in my left pocket aswell

[oak eagle]

bro

thats weird asf

[grim jay]

No its huge

[past panther]

wallet is back left, phone in front left

[golden loom]

who the fuck doesnt??

[grim jay]

Doesnt even comfortably fit

In my back pocket

[past panther]

yall need proper wallets

slim bifold

[golden loom]

Phone in left pocket is the most psycho thing I have ever heard

[oak eagle]

ive always put my wallet with my phone

[grim jay]

Its a proper wallet, I just carry money

[oak eagle]

nah both go in my right pocket

[grim jay]

Im no epay or card nerd

[subtle tundra]

also i'd hate feeling the wallet press against my butt

[past panther]

i can’t cancel or refund cash if it gets lost or stolen

i never notice it

[grim jay]

Well guess what

[past panther]

with where the pockets are in my work pants it is literally not beneath my butt

[normal mist]

Back left - phone
Back right - wallet
Keys - around the neck

[subtle tundra]

its a big pocket in front, i barely feel anything is inside it

[past panther]

it’s more on my hip

[normal mist]

Literally or?

[past panther]

i hate the feeling of a lot of weight in one pocket

like my pants are trying to droop unevenly

[grim jay]

If you had your wallet in your back pocket, you wouldnt have a wallet after like 30 mins in the city

[golden loom]

?????

[past panther]

triggers the fuck outta me

[past panther]

idk i used to live in Memphis and never had that issue

and Memphis is shit

[spice spire]

Tennessee mentioned

[grim jay]

Maybe they suck at theft

[past panther]

parents never had that issue either

[spice spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316923750073499648/1292477218462634115/vlc_2024-10-06_08-22-07.gif

[normal mist]

What xD

[subtle tundra]

also my wallet is thick af

[past panther]

Memphis is like one of the crime capitals of the sound

[subtle tundra]

full of things

[normal mist]

Same

[spice spire]

Just like you or

[subtle tundra]

not much money

[normal mist]

Papers

Lots or papers

[subtle tundra]

i literally have a fine from hungary and a menu from five guys in it

[shy nest]

is fatebound simming better for anyone else?

[normal mist]

LOl

[past panther]

it’s a shithole here
East tn got landslided nd leveled by Helene

[spice spire]

Shouldn’t be

[golden loom]

wallet front left, phone front right and back pockets stay empty otherwise its psycho behavior

[grim jay]

Based

100% agree

[spice spire]

Ik they did.
I’m in nashville

[past panther]

hey ur like 30 mins away

i work in Murfreesboro

[subtle tundra]

so true. youre absolutely right

[spice spire]

[past panther]

the mtsu town

[spice spire]

Oh I know

Went there

[queen narwhal]

wrathstone trinket 626 is simming 1k dmg less than 639 skardyns

[jaunty quarry]

hey...twin fang trinket is bad right ?

[past panther]

oof

[spice spire]

Ye

[normal mist]

It's whatever

It's weird to use

[past panther]

Murfreesboro is becoming baby Nashville

[spice spire]

Yeah

[jaunty quarry]

ty

[past panther]

nothing fun to do, more crime and hooligans, all the traffic

[queen narwhal]

go get your bis trinket from ulduar guys

[past panther]

smells like weed anywhere in downtown/malls

[queen narwhal]

fking insane

[spice spire]

Nashville has some fun things it’s just.
A lot of fucking people and the value vs annoyance ain’t worth.
I’m north of nashville but work at one of the hospitals downtown

[past panther]

Ye most ppl ik that are ‘in’ Nashville are in one of the outlier burbs or towns

We got a few that are surrounding it that drive down to work here at my work

[grim jay]

But ngl people that have their phone in their back pocket are even worse than those having their wallet in their back pocket

[still pewter]

Does buffs change our pi value on St?

[jagged niche]

its not bis if it sims less

[past panther]

the traffic sucks tho cause it grew rly fast and you could tell it wasn’t prepared for it

[grim jay]

The hero one sims higher

[spice spire]

Probably very little

[subtle tundra]

it sims 1k less, you said it yourself 😉

[queen narwhal]

639 sims 1k dmg more than 626

[spice spire]

Well yeah it goes from 4 lanes to like 2 for 0 reason

[past panther]

right lol

[spice spire]

South of the boro

But yeah

[strange python]

Whats the general rule for finishers for Rupture and Envenom on how many CP should I be spending them?

[jagged niche]

imagine not having 639

[past panther]

i live out in Manchester

[spice spire]

5+ or max for DN

[grim jay]

Wait that sounds wrong. We had someone that said champ is like 4k less, then hero should sim equal or higher

[past panther]

cop and state trooper central

[spice spire]

Ahh so you get all the cops and bonnaroo problems in June

[past panther]

YES

[queen narwhal]

both trinkets 626 the ulduar one is better

[spice spire]

[subtle tundra]

he compared 619 to 626

[past panther]

It’s almost like a game of ‘how many on fire Subaru’s with cali plates can you find each week’

[oak eagle]

imagine living in nashville, when they got whooped by the Canucks in the playoffs last year

[grim jay]

[spice spire]

Going to eat ur ass rawdog bud

[past panther]

im ngl i forget they even have a hockey team

[shy nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8avUbuGB5r3WcAGPG5surf
I must be do something wrong

[subtle tundra]

?!?!?

[oak eagle]

letsgo, im waitin

[spice spire]

I’m a big fan of the preds

[normal mist]

Livestream it

[golden loom]

will the ulduar trinket get nerfed if it is that good?

[spice spire]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-tongue-cat-licking-white-cat-cursed-cat-gif-27575167

[past panther]

ppl who like hockey in tn are like.. probably weren’t ever football fans or just like violence

[normal mist]

It's a possibility

[spice spire]

🔮

[spice spire]

I’m a raiders fan

[oak eagle]

howd it feel losing to Sidney Crosby and the Penguins in 2017?

[grim jay]

You can read the future from my crystals

[past panther]

so you like violence

[spice spire]

I will hit filter

If I speak

[past panther]

raider’s crowds are more entertaining than the games

[oak eagle]

hahaha

[spice spire]

They had pirate logo. Was 2 and it stuck

[past panther]

hell yeah

[spice spire]

Big sports guy

[grim jay]

Guess they suck bad if they had a pirate logo

Bcs pirates suck

[spice spire]

Well for the last twenty years

[past panther]

I’m not but i learn a lot thru proxy of coworkers

[spice spire]

Kinda

[oak eagle]

howd it feel getting whooped by the Broncos on Sunday? mmmm that PS2 100 yd pick six

[nova aspen]

oh yea boys

rank 1 rasha fatebound

[spice spire]

Brother it’s gonna be sand paper after I’m done with u

[nova aspen]

[oak eagle]

HAHAHHAHAHAHA

[spice spire]

Like a cats tongue

[nova aspen]

(heroic)

[spice spire]

Never stop gambling

[nova aspen]

[past panther]

lETS GO GAMBLING

[oak eagle]

aww danging

dangit*

[past panther]

Rasha feels so good from his true 60% being execute range for us

[grim jay]

[oak eagle]

im sorry pepsi, that im a fan of all the teams that have brought recent trauma onto your favorite teams

[spice spire]

Gonna get green name just to shit on littlecap

[oak eagle]

its the only shitting on youll see, preds suck, and raiders are tanking

[grim jay]

But if they get shit on its still shitting on

[spice spire]

I mean raiders tanking is whatever.
Had 0 hopes coming into the year with Minshew and AOC

Should just trade davante and get some prospects for next year

[oak eagle]

where you think Adams is gonna go

lots of people on twitter were saying that hed get traded to the chiefs

which no chance in hell is that happening

they arent trading with a division rival that they havent even played yet

(i dont think anyways)

[crude sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-huh-emote-twitch-emote-7tv-twitch-7tv-gif-18228911432715801849

[oak eagle]

damn bro, shoulda just natty rolled myth rash cloak in your vault like I did

[soft shale]

the serum calls

[hot pasture]

Fatebound or death for raid?

[past panther]

fuck serum

[waxen idol]

We talk about this yet?

[oak eagle]

yes

[hot pasture]

Btw the changes are ok for assa?

[past panther]

They feel really good

[shy nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/deWKBQ4LjZUMJSNU2giART
is this right? 😄

[oak eagle]

yeah i blasted raid today

99 on bloodbound even after aug buffs got taken out, and then 96 on rash

i blasted mythic today

[past panther]

I went from barely doing more than our ekitten evoker to consistently top 5

[grim jay]

Why shouldnt it

[hot pasture]

Bro can i see ur logs ahaha

[spice spire]

If saints can free up room, there. If not jets or back to GB? Frankly idk

[shy nest]

thought ds was better 😄

[subtle tundra]

ofc its better logs today than before

[grim jay]

It is

[subtle tundra]

cause we got buffed and compare to prebuff numbers

[kind forge]

lil bro following carr everywhere he goes huh

[oak eagle]

let me have this ok, let me be proud of myself

[thorn crown]

2x Dawnthread Lining is better than ascendanz + patch? Only M+

[oak eagle]

only m+, i believe so

[spice spire]

Is the build the same minus hero talents?

[past panther]

yes and double dawn not too far behind either in ST/raid

[spice spire]

Because sb on DS is a little rough

[grim jay]

In m+ definitely and in ST at 80% uptime aswell

[spice spire]

(I’m on mobile)

[past panther]

there’s a lot of dmg during raid prog tho so it might fall behind more than a lil

[oak eagle]

nvm logs finally locked, 97 on bloodbound and 92 on rash, im washed

[past panther]

but if ur farming it’s prob really close

[spice spire]

Yeah just like the broncos bud get woke

[oak eagle]

who lost on sunday?

[shy nest]

yeah same build

[oak eagle]

oh yeah, the raiders

[manic cave]

how is it is even a huge buff

[oak eagle]

also who threw a 100 yard pick six? oh yeah, the raiders

[manic cave]

it’s the set uptime only no?

[thorn crown]

Okay, I'm switching from outlaw to assa.

Atm I only have 1 dagger. Can I craft the weapon withouth emballishment or is it a waste?

[spice spire]

Yeah drop sanguine and MA

[spice spire]

Put two VV or one VV and one dashing

[blazing slate]

does it make sense that the ring sims 1% higher?

than the mythic tier shoulders

[spice spire]

Sure

[spice spire]

Bo Nix had a 63 yard game, pipe down Denver

[grim jay]

Its definitely a good choice

If you dont have a mythic mh

[oak eagle]

didnt realize 206 = to 63. where did you learn this math?

also had 3 total touchdowns, 2 in the air and 1 on the ground

[grim jay]

Even after all those sentences

I still didnt recognize the Sport

[manic cave]

someone explain the buffs today

[oak eagle]

NFL

[manic cave]

i don’t see them

[oak eagle]

check pins

[slim pebble]

We do more dam

[spice spire]

Nice first round pick

[oak eagle]

admit it, Raiders were gonna draft him if we didnt

[grim jay]

Oh no wonder, thats pretty dead in yermany

[manic cave]

it’s only the set or not?

[spice spire]

Absolutely not

Penix? Probably

[kind forge]

its not

[oak eagle]

pretty sure that was the raiders gameplan since every other qb was gone

[oak eagle]

yeah only our tierset got buffed, spatter got nerfed

[manic cave]

or was there hidden aura buffs to spells

[slim pebble]

Should I be running CT on heroic Ovinax? I feel like the adds die too quickly in my group to get any benefit

[grim jay]

It obviously is, Ive never heard a single person talking about it

Or writing about it

Or anything

[slim pebble]

And even with the nerf spatter came out ahead

[oak eagle]

true that

[spice spire]

I did not run it on heroic

[kind forge]

i know a lot of people that are into it

[grim jay]

People even yap about darts

Fucking darts

[spice spire]

We finish at the parasite section though

[oak eagle]

yeah i wasnt running it on heroic, but i am running it on mythic

[grim jay]

But no nfl

[spice spire]

So like there’s 0 pad to be bad

[shy nest]

like this ye? 😄

[spice spire]

Ye

[manic cave]

how is it possible the dmg is so much better now?

[grim jay]

With buffs

[past panther]

Numbers and tuning

[spice spire]

Our tier set went from nonexistent

[oak eagle]

because we got buffed, numbers and tuning are better

[spice spire]

To doing damage

[oak eagle]

we went from having very little uptime on our 4set, to almost having it up constantly now with the buffs we got

[summer viper]

!trinkets

!commands

[oak eagle]

sim yourself

[manic cave]

pity it’s -50% in PvP haha

[slim pebble]

Our last heroic kill was 6 minutes. Not sure what section that is lol

[dark quiver]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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