#assassination

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spice spire
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If you primary raid, depths. If m+ radiant

cinder quartz
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go both

feral mason
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real and true

cinder quartz
feral mason
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if you do both also go radiant

spice spire
feral mason
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depths on aoe is very bad in comparison to radiant on st

spice spire
feral mason
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i am too

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so i can

spice spire
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Wait actually

worn jetty
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thanks guys

spice spire
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I thought you just liked dudes for some reason. TIL

cinder quartz
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radiant/depths is for the bis

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not BiS

feral mason
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No people just think im gay so ive barely had relationships with girls

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unlucky

cinder quartz
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sparkle on

spice spire
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Unlucky indeed big dog

unkempt lantern
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Is there a change to hero talents today for mythic plus?

spice spire
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Hope you find the person of ur dreams

unkempt lantern
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Ty

spice spire
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Keep on keeping on big dog

spice spire
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You had that one in the chamber way too quick

haughty lantern
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@spice spire pulled a hero track void reapers contract out of my vault (nothing else seemed particularly interesting) this will certainly work

spice spire
spice spire
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Now you need the fist weapon you filthy outlaw gooseSTARE

spice spire
haughty lantern
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tbf i do have both my sin trinkets too

spice spire
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Good shit

haughty lantern
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outlaw: contract + scroll of momentum
sin: broodsac + skardyns

severe sparrow
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Damn

thorny rain
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what is the item called to add sockets to your neck and rings?

haughty lantern
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magnificent jewelers setting

severe sparrow
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All hero track or nah?

haughty lantern
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nah but i haven't touched 9s yet so does it really matter? (im slow, focussed on school)

haughty lantern
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im an engineering student. school unfortunately comes first ~~just have to keep saying that until it becomes real 🫠 ~~

severe sparrow
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I also been taking it slow

spice spire
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Same.
Overslept the ten I was supposed to do last eeek.
So all hero track loot

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But still

grim jay
spice spire
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No u

pure moth
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Get a room

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Or thread

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Lol

silk sundial
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Do a take a 619 neck or 619 contract trinket from my vault? Both hero, both sim the same. Contract would be replacing a 606 Broodsac lol

severe sparrow
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Idk i always lean trink

spice spire
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(This isn’t a serious comment)

severe sparrow
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Easier to farm an ok neck

thick sable
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If you run hero raid, maybe wait and see if you get it from your guild run

severe sparrow
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Or craft if you really down bad

spice spire
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What if ur down cataclysmic

haughty lantern
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pffffftttAAHAHAHAHA

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GUYS

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GUYS

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this is fuckin hilarious

lost bane
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so is rogue still ass? or is ass the only way to play rouge?

haughty lantern
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i just accidentallied my way into getting 2 piece on my hunter

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like 2 pieces of tier

spice spire
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Rogue got buffed across all three specs

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I think it’s ok

uneven plume
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Sin probably the lowest prio S tier class in m+

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Idk about raid though

fallow marsh
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do we have final numbers on how big the buff was to sigle target?

haughty lantern
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i got a warbound tier token from running alt raid with my friends on friday, and then this week from the 2 world events i did (my hunter is just a profession alt) the one piece of loot in my vault was tier shoulders

slim pebble
uneven plume
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I’d say sin is like on the border between A and S tier

real beacon
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is it normal that i have no energy in st

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when running m+ build

spice spire
prisma monolithBOT
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Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

  • No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
  • 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
  • You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
unreal parcel
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
spice spire
real beacon
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ty

pure moth
uneven plume
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Was there a data mine for what hero talents benefit from tier set now?

fallow marsh
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those numbers on the spreadsheet look identical

spice spire
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So all plague DS talents now affected

uneven plume
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So basically all of our damaging hero talents?

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Like mark and stuff

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I think whysper talked about it on his latest video

spice spire
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He did

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Not 100% but seems very likely

uneven plume
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That’s pretty huge no?

severe sparrow
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Do other classes (idk dk/lock) do plague damage or is this like some weird ass shit

grim jay
severe sparrow
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I never heard of till recently

slim pebble
severe sparrow
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Cuz we do it now

haughty lantern
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nvm i peaked into outlaw chat for 2 seconds and now im depressed

spice spire
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Hell yeah

grim jay
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only the gargoyle bolt of uhdk

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does plague

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aswell

haughty lantern
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which is so strange to me

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b/c you don't think of a ROGUE of all specs doing plague damage

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until you realize it's just nature + shadow

past panther
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Does the queen ring hold extra value for us since it’s nature dmg?

worn badger
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today is the first time ever my sim results make no sense to my brain and hurt my brain. Both vault and droptimizer results are showing that a second on use trinket is the best way to go

haughty lantern
spice surge
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Theres no interaction with mastery or anything else

haughty lantern
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IN THEORY we can make the proc go faster, but in reality the difference is probably too small

past panther
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Gotcha

dapper cradle
spice spire
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But

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It’s v good

spice surge
past panther
uneven plume
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The crit ring?

past panther
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That’s what i was mainly wondering

dapper cradle
haughty lantern
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@spice surge do we not make it proc faster b/c we do nature damage?

past panther
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I still have my poison trinket from NW and the contract from nexus princess

agile kestrel
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tier set change is live?

spice surge
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Class buffs generally only affect class spells

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Any time they dont its a bug

uneven plume
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Doesn’t crit lose value with DS?

worn badger
spice spire
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Yeah it interacts with 0% of our things - it would be an iversight

severe sparrow
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contract is bis in my heart cuz shadow friends uwu

spice spire
past panther
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on paper but sim

spice spire
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Last time a rogue ability interacted with an item

uneven plume
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Is there a soft/hard cap for mastery for sin?

spice spire
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It became game breakingly OP

worn badger
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yeah i got one in vault last week. just constant suprised how good it is

thick sable
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How does it not though? The ring says "Dealing nature damage has a chance to grant you an extra dose"

spice spire
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So they had to remove it

latent bluff
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are the new buffs on raidbots?

worn badger
spice spire
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Edge of night with sub

worn badger
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oh, yeah

spice spire
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They removed the interaction

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The chance is like

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Egregiously low isn’t it

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I’ve not looked at average procs on ring

slim pebble
lethal arrow
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guess im settling with this today

severe sparrow
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settling

worn badger
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i just want to go back to end of Cata when fangs of father interacted with tier set lol. only reason ive been leveling a char in cata classic

uneven plume
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Big sin chest

hard river
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the extra nature part of the ring is 1.5 rppm

slim pebble
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This guy is “settling” with that and that other guy was “settling” with his myth track BIS weapon

lethal arrow
worn badger
grim jay
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quick guys, behave

worn badger
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no

lethal arrow
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idk man, this contract is really bugging me here

grim jay
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whispyr is doing his bedge morning scrolling

lethal arrow
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culdv been a skardyns 😔

past panther
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it’s freaking noon central

south prawn
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am i tripping or contract trinket does str8 dudu dps

spice spire
worn badger
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rogue who behave end up rolling paladins =/

spice spire
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Man is up until 6 CST

past panther
grim jay
fickle lotus
arctic socket
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Spreaded too?

grim jay
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ye, really putting in the effort

grim jay
lethal arrow
grim jay
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why wouldnt he

lethal arrow
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639 dawg

fickle lotus
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bro is sitting on so many +4 ilvl upgrades

cinder quartz
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wowhead still shows no DM on vile tincture but idk how quickly it updates

south prawn
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is this the only effect from the trinket? cause this dmg is sus (+11 dawnbreaker)

arctic socket
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Your main hand wep is like your biggest priority

grim jay
arctic socket
spice surge
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So ye its not gonna do great in aoe

latent bluff
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new buffs out? simming 100k dps more for some reason

spice spire
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Probably

south prawn
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I see

arctic socket
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I would think so

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@spice spire new name?

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Dawg you good

grim jay
lethal arrow
spice spire
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From 3 days ago

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Yeah dog

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It’s lore

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Iykyk type bit

lethal arrow
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esp when we're 4/8 lol

arctic socket
rotund oak
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The anniversasry event starts on the 28th of october,does that mean that the anniversary buffs coming in 3 weeks as well?Wasnt that supposed to be on november? monkascheme

subtle cipher
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well, at least no sim required lol

austere bramble
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hi guys what is the word on the sin rogue buff % wise? did we get anything official? sorry if this has been asked before

spice spire
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Even likely leading up to 11.0.5

spice spire
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Oh it was October

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November I mean

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But now October

rotund oak
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yeah man...

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its a month early

spice spire
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Huh

rotund oak
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what is blizzard cookin' starege

austere bramble
# worn badger pins

oh yeah I saw it was estimated but wasn't sure if that was official or not. thank you

fickle lotus
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they're cooking the brain worms in my head

slim pebble
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How many Dracthyr rogue are there gonna be in two weeks

spice spire
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Too many

rotund oak
hollow talon
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do we not use FoN to clear the witness if we are doing the single target build

worn badger
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ok i have a question for you big brains cause my brain is old and smoothe . sims ( droptimizer and vault) are showing me that a second on use trinket is better than any available other trinket ( i have mandate ) is that right or is it weighting those on use as though im using theming with mark/etc

severe sparrow
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if youre running vv dont clear, if you arent do clear

coral ibex
light mirage
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ass assa am I only spending cp on max or on echoing repremand buffed points?

autumn frost
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Since we're all playing deathstalker is crit still our second best stat?

hollow talon
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ok it appears the single target build has vicious venoms so i wont be doing that

autumn frost
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Let's say end game gear

coral ibex
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!stats

prisma monolithBOT
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There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
autumn frost
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I've got a ring with heavy crit and haste but right now it's my worst stat

hollow talon
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is vanish not a DPS cooldown with that talent build too since no imp garrote

autumn frost
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Yeah doesn't help my vault dilemma

slim pebble
fickle lotus
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sim it then

rotund oak
rotund oak
autumn frost
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I miss the days when we had sims for all the best in slot gear with different talent set comparisons

wispy epoch
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what're you all running for most 10s?

slim pebble
wispy epoch
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optimal?

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if it was 9 and below i'd fill out left side of ass more

slim pebble
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I think that’s the build most people run from like 4 and up

uneven plume
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Can replace iron wire with double shiv in low keys

wispy epoch
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you want aoe shive and double shiv for 9 and below this week

steel ridge
steel ridge
proven saddle
spice surge
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ye but its fairly negligible

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its been in since the tier launched

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And also we were assuming it was gonna get fixed, but clearly nothing is getting fixed

feral pivot
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do you not get darkest night after killing a dungeon boss?

past bobcat
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Did raid bots get updated with change? Just resimmed and I'm quite a bit higher now

fickle lotus
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yes

spice spire
feral pivot
willow rain
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is the knife trinket better than spyglass and sac brood at lower ilvls? so if i could never get any of them above 626... the knife wins out?

spice spire
willow rain
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thank you for the response, that's what the sim was showing as well, i just wanted to check before considering vault items

spice spire
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Yeah knife is good.
Only reason it’s not up toward our best is it cape at 626

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Other than that it fucks

raw cedar
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Generally speaking is the Aka-kara Sacbrood good for us?

wide ridge
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how annoying is it to use the transmitter trinket from raid?

icy crater
proven saddle
coral ibex
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collect or stand in circle

frail escarp
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would it be worth spending 60 gilded crests to upgrade these to 626 or should i save the crests for mythic track?

nimble tartan
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guys look...

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i think i take the sac..

humble ginkgo
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gz

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i got that dagger

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W vault

nimble tartan
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nice bro we so up

humble ginkgo
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fr

slim pebble
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What’s everyone Simming like compared to last week?

opal sigil
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Has the sims come out for the fix to our tier. I simmed myself yesterday and today and it’s the same damage.

slim pebble
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I logged out in m+ talent so I can’t check

frozen rover
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Hi does any1 know how to remove the stealth icon from Shadow UF?

nimble tartan
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i sim bad cause i got the wrong sin embellishes on

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thats ok though

pine orbit
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played sin a few seasons ago, im swapping back for keys because sub in buns right now.....can someone break down the CD window to me like im 5 plz lol

placid adder
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Do the dmg in the cds

spice spire
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Use your current bit

slim pebble
spice spire
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Hold

honest pelican
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hmmm, i have a max champion track skardyns(619) already, no gilded crests yet to up a hero past that. still using champion track offhand 606

spice spire
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I have a whole thing

slim pebble
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Probably safe to assume the same % and I need to stop trying to big brain it lol

spice spire
fallow marsh
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offhand is useless

honest pelican
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yeah main reason i havent bothered with it at 606 still

grim jay
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id take skardyns and be done with it

spice spire
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Then open logs in a different table

honest pelican
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im still thinking hero skardyns is the way to go

spice spire
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Go to your logs

honest pelican
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the rest can be got elsewhere

spice spire
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Copy your build from raid

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And delete m+ build, paste in raid build

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And boom

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Simming

honest pelican
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when i got champ track skadryns other day it was huge in sims

spice spire
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Unless you rock different gear

glacial arch
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!craft

prisma monolithBOT
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Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

autumn frost
spice spire
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Wrong reply

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But yeah that’s also a good point

autumn frost
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Oops

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my bad

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i'm a discord scrub

nimble tartan
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sims tellin me heroic transmitta betta than mythic sac.... chat im cooked

dim yacht
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is anyone not having their dawnthread linings stack?

spice spire
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Same

dim yacht
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i double checked, and no matter what i do i only get benefit from one

spice spire
slim pebble
strong wing
slim pebble
strong wing
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oh true

dim yacht
eager tree
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yes i think theres a command about it in this channel

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!dawnthread

prisma monolithBOT
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Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.

nimble tartan
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639 trinket u know its only 300 dps diff

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and i dont have to do anything

lethal arrow
dim yacht
slim pebble
dim yacht
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not sure about st, but in aoe iirc off hand is worth less than bracers

strong wing
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gear compare its not supported at all

honest pelican
cobalt sphinx
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Gear compare seems fine

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Are there any issues with it

strong wing
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It is not supported anymore legacy tool

uncut sluice
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
molten echo
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Think they mean top gear? Potentially

molten echo
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Also doesnt skardyns shine more in dslice/multi-target scenario?

strong wing
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
strange python
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Does anyone have a basic weakaura combo points that shows combo points exact same as the default ones from blizz?

molten echo
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Anyway, many trinkets seem pretty close. Not like spymasters for casters haha

nimble tartan
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!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
glacial arch
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!plater

prisma monolithBOT
tepid lichen
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i will get skardyn on this run 🙏

mystic osprey
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No

lost glade
zealous wolf
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is it worth it to craft a 636 dagger without embelish? i only play m+ and idk when ill get a mythic track dagger

lunar pond
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Yes

zealous wolf
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thank you, i tried simming ascendance and the 2x armor embelish vs 2x dawnthread and most dps is 2x dawn + 636 crafted daggers

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for dungeon slice

ruby quail
ruby quail
undone pollen
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What the take on the updates to assassination? Mostly good?

solid latch
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Yes

undone pollen
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Any changes to rotation or gearing?

spice spire
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No

undone pollen
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Thanks

vivid seal
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anyone have numbers on the dps increase in st?

zealous wolf
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whyspr has a video

cerulean nest
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does spatter from bloodbound horror reach the adds?

spice spire
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No

oak ember
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Are the hero talents being buffed by the 2p now after changes?

spice spire
clever sluice
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feels like it st feels way higher on dummies

eager gazelle
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the blue post said "appropriate hero talents", so should be

halcyon hamlet
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Yo Follow the Blood is simming higher now in Dungeon Slice by 11k dps

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with the changes to getting 30% dps upgrade to only 2 targets to Rupture instead of 3

naive stump
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Probably, it's champion track though. And using two catalyst charges on champion track gear feels like a waste

eager gazelle
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what else are you going to use your charges on?

naive stump
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versus taking the 616 chest to catalyze with another piece for the 2p

eager gazelle
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all your gear is champion track, your charges are going to waste if you don't use them

naive stump
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I would take the 616 chest and use the charges on that and my helm

arctic socket
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Chest is the worst tier to take

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Just go farm some keys

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Upgrade your gear to at least hero

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7s are doable at your ilvl if you make your own group

noble pollen
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i belive our burst in single target is much better now

spice spire
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7s doable at 590 period

eager gazelle
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I don't think your gear is good enough to worry that much about min maxing your cat charges

spice spire
waxen oyster
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our burst wasnt even bad

eager gazelle
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obviosuly do what you want, but I am taking transmitter in that spot

arctic socket
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You also have like

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1 crafted 619:

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You can have 3

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Make them

clever sluice
waxen oyster
arctic socket
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Oh my bad

naive stump
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I'll craft as soon as I get the crests

arctic socket
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4 free 619s

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Farm mythic+ at least upgrade hero gear

naive stump
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was very late to the expansion

arctic socket
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Don’t waste it on champ

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You’re not late…

waxen oyster
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to the delve mines

arctic socket
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Honestly

naive stump
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as far as having crests...

arctic socket
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Yeah tier 8 delves would be sick for you

spice spire
arctic socket
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I yearn for her

naive stump
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I should call ehr

uneven plume
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We made it boys

spring moat
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I got quite a few hero track pieces from delves and catalyzed two of them. Got a piece from a boss and the token from ansurek heroic

arctic socket
spice spire
uneven plume
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dont get overwhelmed by all the invites

spring moat
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You guys get invited ?

spice spire
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Don’t worry king

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I’ll temper my excitement

waxen oyster
arctic socket
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S tier is like 50 points above f

naive stump
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yeah alright taking the trinket and i'll catalyst hero track gear when i get them, thanks boys

arctic socket
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That trinket sucks balls to play with

naive stump
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lak;sdjf;lkasjdf

arctic socket
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It’s also a weird cd

spice spire
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Ur a weird cd bud

arctic socket
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It’s a 1:30

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On a 2m spec

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Go next

spice surge
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You just hold it

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Its a 2 min trinket

spice spire
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Sub only trinket

spice surge
spice spire
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But yeah

runic hinge
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JUMP 3 TIMES

arctic socket
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Sub only trinket

spice spire
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If you miss a cast?

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Bad beats

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But actually

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Last week

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It could have been the juicer in m+

arctic socket
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I have the trinket fuck it in raid

spice surge
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Dw sub aint a spec now anyway

arctic socket
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Grace better

spice spire
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Natty syncs BearClassic

solar orbit
spice surge
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Sub and assa does the same shitty singletarget, assa gets +4% sub stays small

spice spire
spice surge
spice spire
arctic socket
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Need more buffs

solar orbit
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2.30 min cd

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fucking joke

lethal arrow
spice spire
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Absolutely not

uneven plume
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Not with that color name

spice spire
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You’re still melee

solar orbit
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just run your own keys

uneven plume
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xD

lethal arrow
spice spire
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And not the top dog

solar orbit
spice surge
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+4% for assa, nothing for sub Classic
Same story on sikran

spice spire
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So sit down mister crash

royal lantern
spice spire
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Dw

royal lantern
solar orbit
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I dropped my fdk at the start of the season because I liked assa better 🤡

royal lantern
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instead of just putting random % buff son it

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and we have to play this shity barely functional sub again

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cus lol number big

spice spire
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Some people may enjoy this iteration

royal lantern
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when you read "they buffed Black Powder, thats a Small ST dmg increase", you know shit is fucked

solar orbit
ruby birch
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this is why i dont look at logs no more

runic hinge
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COLLECT OR STAND IN CIRCLE

onyx scroll
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JUMP 3 TIMES

shy heron
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I found that one hard to make out sometimes so I changed it to PAD OR BALL

naive stump
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Aight trinket was an instant take when I realized you get the infiltrator's shroud toy from it ez gg

dawn kelp
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!ui

prisma monolithBOT
south lava
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whats with the new affix boss keep gaining health

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in m+

runic hinge
#

COLLECT OR STAND IN CIRLCE

spice surge
south lava
#

which circle

cursive owl
#

good meowning Deadneko

hollow talon
#

Did we get any numbers on how much % our ass got buffed

runic hinge
#

it's gotta get data mined first so nothing concrete probably until the tc's are awake

cursive owl
#

does it matter, sin is best spec anyway Arnorasip

cerulean nest
#

we're still fanning for clear the witness when we dont take VV right?

cursive owl
#

uhm majiiShy what was this topic again about fann being st used ?

spice spire
#

If you don’t have vicious venoms. You fok on ctw procs

#

(After consuming dn)

blazing jewel
lethal arrow
#

whats dn

spice spire
#

I’m not memeing here dude

lethal arrow
spice spire
gleaming geyser
#

dix neuf gang

spice spire
spice surge
lethal arrow
#

dale

spice spire
#

Ur right they call me mister worldwide

dawn heath
#

do we know the implications of the changes now that was in the patchnotes?

#

since na servers are up

coral ibex
#

pins

dawn heath
#

those are 5 days old

#

and its just speculation

spice spire
#

It’s likely the actual #

honest needle
#

i cant decide if i open vault for sin or outlaw

spice spire
#

The difference is weapon

#

Pick which you need more

#

Choose it

honest needle
#

i kno i have 636 crafted weapon

wise gull
#

fricken welp

fresh blaze
honest needle
#

@pure moth i have 636 crafted weapon for sin and only a champion weapon for outlaw

wise gull
#

Was maining sub but probably leaning sin now?

cursive owl
#

ok

fresh blaze
#

for sin neck is massive

cursive owl
#

but ctw proccs o.o ?

fresh blaze
#

ifu have bis trinkets

honest needle
#

isnt outlaw good now since buff

lethal arrow
spice spire
#

Both specs are fine

#

We are a 2 spec class

#

Rip sub

honest needle
#

i just dont kno if crafted weapon is bis for sin

spice spire
#

So 639 mh is bis

#

But 636 is more than fine

pure moth
cursive owl
#

ctw = cut tuna wrap lulilacyum ?

spice spire
#

Ur making a mountain out of a molehill

honest needle
#

so then i either craft weapon for outlaw or open vault as outlaw then correct ?

spice spire
cursive owl
#

ahhh

strange python
#

are the buffs in sims?

spice spire
#

Gear pool is the same

#

Except weapons

spice spire
honest needle
#

since buff for both specs what spec do you think will b better for m+

#

and i hope are singletarget is much better cause are single target was shit

cursive owl
#

i need to investigate, i had rogue diet aruOld

lethal arrow
#

rn ass is good for m+

honest needle
#

@spice spire the only thing is my crafted weapon is 636 for sin but my off hand is only 619 champion

#

will offhand from 636 make a big difference from 619 ?

cursive owl
#

ahhh yes yes ctw

spice spire
#

Offhand is negligible for us

cursive owl
#

my sin is lvl 74, will i have trouble to gear it once i reach 80, or be delves still good as a solo geae farm maschine

bleak spoke
#

ST is still pretty anemic compared to the field but at least for me buffs were like nearly 5% in m+ build

spice spire
#

(I haven’t logged in and am fucking around)

runic hinge
#

@spice spire i got a skardyns in my vault

arctic socket
#

Closer to 10% for me

#

I’m built better

bleak spoke
#

Yeah my gear ass tho

spice spire
cursive owl
#

oki nice

spice spire
spice spire
#

My gear is turbo ass

runic hinge
#

yeah, I'm not really doing keys tho

honest needle
#

sucks we cant do questionmark anymore for delves

#

so dumb how they stopped that\

cursive owl
spice spire
honest needle
#

isnt it true we cant do it anymore ?

bleak spoke
#

I’m still wearing 606 pieces in like 5 slots but at least I did craft a mh OMEGALUL

runic hinge
#

waiting until they finally finish nerfing the dungeons and fix the affixes lol

cursive owl
#

i heard , snd will get passive next patch ? amiyapog

spice spire
#

We can just doesn’t apply to vault on reset

#

Yes

#

In 2 weeks

#

Which means a prime bind is opening GlorpChamp

spring moat
lime cloak
#

Hello guys,
I'm not sure of something, does caustic spatter "spat" around me or aroung the the mob i hit ?

spice spire
#

I do not care to correct that emote

cursive owl
#

so what will happen , can someone clear that ? will it vanish, does it fuse with another ability ?

spice spire
#

8y from center

spice spire
#

Iirc

lime cloak
#

alright, thank you 🙂

cursive owl
#

CttC ?

spice spire
#

Cut to the chase

cursive owl
#

ah

honest needle
#

@spice spire is that true we cant run question anymore for spam delves

spice spire
#

Current talent that extends it

cursive owl
#

ahhhhh

spice spire
cursive owl
spice spire
#

Eu can today

#

NA cannot

honest needle
#

so what does questionmark give us ?

#

then if we cant do it for delves anymorer

spice spire
#

Nothing for vault

#

Normal rewards

subtle tundra
#

are anniversary changes getting implemented soon?

runic hinge
#

2 weeks

#

22nd

spice spire
#

22nd for new patch

subtle tundra
#

not what i asked

spice spire
#

Oh in sims

subtle tundra
#

implemented in raidbots

spice spire
#

Likely

subtle tundra
#

im curious if its a buff or nerf

spice spire
#

I’d say buff.
But that’s feelcrafting

subtle tundra
#

i feel like its a nerf for ds

#

er is pretty impactful

cursive owl
#

soo ... i dont believe my crit stacking rogue still works OMEGAKEKW

spice spire
#

Yeah but it also opens talents elsewhere

spice spire
#

But I agree ER kinda bigly for DS

lethal arrow
#

that thistle tea change is so odd

cursive owl
#

when i play sin now , sometimes i feel like i have a energy hole , but a big one

spice spire
#

It’s perfect actually

runic hinge
#

i wonder how it being tied to shiv is gonna work where we are holding shiv for kb always

spice spire
#

Because you can minmax it

cursive owl
#

pepsi

bleak spoke
#

ER also feels very nice imo, in all target counts

honest needle
#

wait the tea change took place already

spice spire
#

Or just let it rip

lethal arrow
#

no, not for 2 more weeks

subtle tundra
#

they nerfed kb just to keep buffing our burst...

cursive owl
#

to dragonflight my rogue was on 78% crit derppika

prisma monolithBOT
#

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

  • No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
  • 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
  • You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
runic hinge
#

yes but do i need to finish twice before i can shiv a second time

#

or does it add

lethal arrow
subtle tundra
#

what the fuck are you on

spice spire
#

Crit obviously

runic hinge
#

crit rating apparently

subtle tundra
#

ofc crit rating im not an imbecile

lethal arrow
#

take me back to BFA S4 when we had 60% haste

bleak spoke
#

which will uh

subtle tundra
#

but 78% crit is not a number you can achieve

bleak spoke
#

i mean it is what it is

spice spire
balmy condor
cursive owl
#

it is o.o

spice spire
#

Rookie numbers

lethal arrow
#

was it more? i dont remember anymore

#

i had the haste corruption on every piece

royal lantern
#

just build different

spice spire
#

It was like 68% for Exsang iirc

cursive owl
#

i had 78% crit, 12 haste and 67 mastery

blazing jewel
#

quake can equip a 2h on sin rogue

spice spire
subtle tundra
#

this guy playing another game

spice spire
bleak spoke
cursive owl
#

well it was dragonflight

vital haven
cursive owl
#

i had enought gear to test stuff out

subtle tundra
#

78% crit

bleak spoke
#

@vital haven hey that's when we used to raid together pOg

subtle tundra
#

is not a number you get to

waxen oyster
#

man its incredible how they never hit overwhelming power

cursive owl
#

dont believe me then Arnorasip

waxen oyster
#

as a secondary trait

subtle tundra
#

but you cant just say random shit like that

cursive owl
#

dont judge me

#

i know i played with it

subtle tundra
#

misinformation yeaaaaaaaahhhhh i love it

white pumice
#

Guys what spec did you guys run zekir as?

spice spire
#

Sin

cursive owl
#

how is this missingormating ppl ?

white pumice
#

can you use vanish or does he reset?

cursive owl
#

stop troll

subtle tundra
#

yea whatever

#

im the troll

craggy elk
#

has anyone got any macros for the rogue?

#

struggling with all the abilities

#

probably because im bad haha

cursive owl
#

DM and KB makro still works ?

fleet pagoda
waxen oyster
#

why would you ever macro dm and kb

honest needle
waxen oyster
#

They’re both gcd

cursive owl
#

they are o.o

honest needle
#

that neck is crit mastery

fleet pagoda
#

they're probably thinking of dance/kb

cursive owl
#

ahhh yes

#

my bad

craggy elk
keen rover
#

!opener

fleet pagoda
#

I'm too old to remember the slot numbers so I just type the trinket name

spice spire
spice spire
spice spire
#

Has opener in wh

cursive owl
#

doesnt wh have also the makros

spice spire
#

Some yeah

bleak spoke
cursive owl
bleak spoke
#

but it did feel very strange to naturally fill every global as sin

twin hull
#

any1 noticed their dps increase after reset with the tier piece buff?

prime hull
#

Are the hotfixes in raidbots now if I sim?

spice spire
spice spire
frigid kestrel
prime hull
frigid kestrel
#

Or just move your trinket around

spice spire
#

Either that or I hit massive gains with no changes

bleak spoke
#

13 and 14 are trinket slots 1 and 2 yeah

spice spire
#

“Massive”

craggy elk
bleak spoke
#

generally when you write on use trinkets into macros you want to have the trinket used before the ability

#

as well

craggy elk
#

do you have to have it setup as /castsequence ?

fleet pagoda
gray horizon
#

put it in quotes

#

actually

#

/use 13

bleak spoke
#

/use and /cast are both interchangeable for abilities, but /cast 13 won't work

gray horizon
#

or /use 14

spice spire
#

Yeah

cobalt sphinx
spice spire
#

So

#

I’m asking

#

Because if it’s serum

bleak spoke
#

should be like
/use 13
/cast Deathmark

spice spire
#

It doesn’t work

rotund oak
spice spire
#

That’s why I’m asking which trinket

craggy elk
spice spire
bleak spoke
#

uh

#

case sensitive

#

sometimes

cursive owl
#

doggo getting ignored OMEGAKEKW

bleak spoke
#

not sure if it is here

craggy elk
#

sorted it now

bleak spoke
#

but sometimes it is KEKW

craggy elk
#

im sure i tried macroing it in with my mutliate before and it didnt work

royal lantern
fleet pagoda
spice spire
#

Yeah it’s deathmark

halcyon hamlet
#

Does anyone know the Spell ID for Scent of Blood? Wowhead one doesnt seem to work with WA tracking

vernal adder
#

cant u shift click from spellbook to macro?

bleak spoke
waxen thunder
#

Might as well call me Conan

royal lantern
past bobcat
#

So what did the raw numbers end up being from the buff?

craggy elk
#

is there anything else I can do to make it easier?

waxen oyster
#

make what easier

craggy elk
#

im unsure when im supposed to use kingsbane and deathmark and shiv

bleak spoke
#

read the guide! it's really good

waxen oyster
#

rogue doesnt have alot of binds

bleak spoke
#

and has visual representations

craggy elk
#

I always open in stealth,ambush then garrote and rupture

spice spire
#

But it’s not the worst

spice spire
#

Brm gooseSTARE

subtle tundra
#

man not a single guild that has progressed/is progressing does so with an assa
gragrgh
4% buff gamechanging

rotund oak
waxen oyster
#

uhh

kind sleet
#

!fuu

prisma monolithBOT
halcyon hamlet
subtle tundra
#

also if we dont kill ansurek until 22nd october -> assa is the play

waxen oyster
#

depends what you’re comparing to

subtle tundra
#

surely

near vale
#

yo anyone know how i can choose when to use two on use trinkets on raidbots

#

like i want to use one with opener and one 45 sec later and keep going that cycle

bleak spoke
daring hamlet
#

oh are those buffs to our tier and stuff in now?

waxen oyster
bleak spoke
#

i'm too bad, i just use focus

#

two sets of utility cds is enough

halcyon hamlet
spice spire
#

She’s a busy lass she’ll respond when she can

halcyon hamlet
bleak spoke
spice spire
#

Idk how to manually do it

near vale
#

Yea but would it just use it after 20 sec

spice spire
#

But both should pop out

bleak spoke
#

i swear any ability/talent that's has multiple iterations has had like 5 duped spell ids

near vale
#

cause im trying to sim frost dk and the burst windows are on 45 sec cds so i wanna hold it for 45 sec

glacial scroll
spice spire
#

That would be editing apl

#

And uh

near vale
#

im aware the discord i am in

spice spire
#

Oh yeah

near vale
#

and i dont want two on use trinkets 💀

spice spire
#

That’s not the issue

bleak spoke
#

i still haven't managed to get bonespike to show the fucking icon properly, it refuses to load it randomly despairge

spice spire
#

It’s just a more complicated bit.
Like

honest needle
#

why are people using crit mastery dagger offhand instead of the woreship crit mastery one ?

bleak spoke
#

but i probably messed up, considering there's 7 or 8 spell ids for it

near vale
#

is it dumb to wait the 45 seconds

spice spire
#

If trinkets aren’t implemented by tcs to have specific

fleet pagoda
spice spire
#

Mandate? Yes

near vale
#

transmitter and kharados

rotund oak
#

transmitter

#

💀

near vale
#

bro when im in m+ and i use that shit

#

i have to get 2 inches from the screen

#

to see the fucking orb

bleak spoke
#

i hate this thing, but actually i think i hate it less than witherbark for some reason

fleet pagoda
rotund oak
glad osprey
near vale
#

need that

bleak spoke
#

must be nice

near vale
#

I just wish the orbs and the thing on the ground would like glow a lot

glad osprey
#

Idk why

near vale
#

so i can actually see them

bleak spoke
#

mine is always stand in the dumbest place ever goodluck

spice spire
honest needle
#

does any one kno the reasoning ?

runic hinge
#

COLLECT OR STAND IN CIRLCE

glad osprey
#

I’m stuck with the transmitter too tho

honest needle
#

know

spice spire
#

Worse trinkets

near vale
#

oh wait raidbots auto waits the 45 seconds

keen rover
#

On the 2nd Deathmark, when is vanish for improved garrot best used?

near vale
#

god this website is so insane

bleak spoke
#

i don't know why we didn't just get intellect coral like all the casters did despairge especially since transmitter is a universal trinket, idk why spymasters couldn't have been

spice spire
honest needle
#

why are people using critvers dagger offhand instead of the woreship crit mastery one ?

#

@spice spire

spice spire
#

Oh that’s easy

keen rover
#

Right, but do you want to improved garrot prior to using deathmark/=kingsbane so it's already rolling

spice spire
#

Stats aren’t real they can’t hurt you

#

!stats

prisma monolithBOT
#

There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.

  • Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
  • Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
  • Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
near vale
#

bout to get raidbots premium just to give this dude money 😩

honest needle
#

@spice spire so should i use my crit mastery offhand at 619 or my crit vers 1 at 619 i have both

vernal adder
#

I got 2 HC daggers now, might have to learn stuff again

fleet pagoda
spice spire
honest needle
#

no the blood kissed dagger or the woreship dagger

bleak spoke
#

that embellishment is actually fucking dog it's so scuffed

honest needle
#

i just used my valor stones and upgraded my blood kissed cause it simmed slightly higher i think

arctic socket
#

If you’re meaning the emblishment dagger (not ascension) it’s really bad

honest needle
#

even tho my other 1 was alrdy upgraded

waxen oyster
#

Why are you overthinking gear so much

thorn fjord
#

Guess the original build is back on the menu

dense cove
#

does anyone know if you use runed crest to upgrade champion gear up to 8/8 will the hero gear still cost runed crest for first couple ranks?

arctic socket
#

Eww

arctic socket
#

Real

thorn fjord
#

It’s a simple life

bleak spoke
#

yep no more vv for me either, by 5k dps or so

#

but like

#

god bless

cobalt sphinx
vernal adder
#

how similar is this ass to legion?

bleak spoke
#

we stan shrouded in this household

spice spire
#

Enjoy fok st nerd

thorn fjord
vernal adder
#

but shiv kingsbane etc

thorn fjord
#

We didn’t use shiv back then

#

We had toxic blade

bleak spoke
#

toxic blade is shiv

waxen oyster
#

it was toxic blade

#

same shit

bleak spoke
#

cmon man

vernal adder
#

ah

waxen oyster
#

wait you guys dont have your shiv icon set to toxic blade?

vernal adder
#

I called it shiv still

waxen oyster
#

in a macro?

bleak spoke
#

cd is 30s and not 25s now though

lucid spoke
#

any recommenten crit stat i need 4 assa?

thorn fjord
#

And it was basically pray to rng gods that PB procs

#

More PB procs the godlier you were

bleak spoke
#

i miss 25s TB like

spice spire
#

Fuck

coral ibex
#

!stats

bleak spoke
#

maybe i'm a psycho but i liked that our cds didn't really sync right

coral ibex
#

!stat

#

wtf

#

bot dead

fleet pagoda
#

🫡 Moroes goin on strike again?

waxen oyster
#

i also have my ss bind on outlaw

lucid spoke
#

:S

coral ibex
#

o7

waxen oyster
#

in a macro with the saberslash icon

spice spire
honest needle
#

what are the neck things called to put gems in my neck ?

waxen oyster
#

all peepo icons

bleak spoke
#

that goes hard

fleet pagoda
waxen oyster
#

i swear

bleak spoke
#

i wish the spatter icon wasn't so ugly

#

idk what to replace it with though

waxen oyster
#

1/5 times i turn on a wizard player's stream

#

they have love live girl icons

bleak spoke
#

it's full degen yeah

waxen oyster
#

for their wa....

spice spire
bleak spoke
honest needle
#

do i need main stat gem crafted or can i get away with the gems i buy on the auction house ??

spice spire
#

Ty bbgirl

waxen oyster
#

There's only one mainstat gem

#

for pve

vernal adder
waxen oyster
#

actually there's one that also gives movespeed

spice spire
#

Yeah I have been

#

Since tww

#

Unretired

#

Unfort

vernal adder
#

unlucky

spice spire
#

@shy pecan gonna eat ur ass big dog (ily tho)

near vale
#

oh yea btw if anyone uses whispyrs afenar edit weakaura turn all the models off aparently they absolutely fuck your fps

#

from reddit so take with grain of salt

acoustic roost
#

!lag

prisma monolithBOT
#

Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.

You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end

fleet pagoda
spice spire
#

You just need to update it

#

He removed

near vale
#

ah its already updated

#

sick

spice spire
waxen oyster
#

i only took his DN and dsm icons

#

tbh

spice spire
tacit otter
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
waxen oyster
#

not sure if those had

near vale
#

although i changed the weakaura quite a bit so i have to go remove all mine manually lmao

honest needle
#

@spice spire do i need main stat gem crafted or can i get away with the gems i buy on the auction house ??

waxen oyster
#

I mean I never take a full pack for rogue.

vernal adder
#

wonder how long it would take me to learn this spec after playing outlaw since bfa or something

bleak spoke
near vale
#

dude i was using afenars weakauras on like all my characters i was trying everything to fix my fps lmao

waxen oyster
#

I yoink wa elements I like from multiple people

#

and frankenstein something together

spice spire
#

Best will be main stat. But save gold. Your probably not done gesring

waxen oyster
#

I don't really lag on brood though

#

i do love puddles spawning in bosses model though

waxen oyster
#

A for visibility

subtle tundra
waxen oyster
#

Casters fr payphone this game

mortal reef
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
waxen oyster
honest needle
#

@spice spire i just got bis neck from vault

fickle lotus