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go both
real and true

if you do both also go radiant
Midmaxing 
depths on aoe is very bad in comparison to radiant on st
You can’t just ask if someone is into both man

Wait actually
thanks guys
I thought you just liked dudes for some reason. TIL
sparkle on
Unlucky indeed big dog
Is there a change to hero talents today for mythic plus?
Hope you find the person of ur dreams
Ty
Keep on keeping on big dog
You had that one in the chamber way too quick
@spice spire pulled a hero track void reapers contract out of my vault (nothing else seemed particularly interesting) this will certainly work

Now you need the fist weapon you filthy outlaw 
Real
tbf i do have both my sin trinkets too
outlaw: contract + scroll of momentum
sin: broodsac + skardyns
Damn
what is the item called to add sockets to your neck and rings?
magnificent jewelers setting
All hero track or nah?
nah but i haven't touched 9s yet so does it really matter? (im slow, focussed on school)
you are so real for that
im an engineering student. school unfortunately comes first ~~just have to keep saying that until it becomes real 🫠 ~~
I also been taking it slow
Same.
Overslept the ten I was supposed to do last eeek.
So all hero track loot
But still
they should just give you mythic vault because you are a 10
No u
Do a take a 619 neck or 619 contract trinket from my vault? Both hero, both sim the same. Contract would be replacing a 606 Broodsac lol
Idk i always lean trink
Jealousy is a disease, get well soon xoxo
(This isn’t a serious comment)
Easier to farm an ok neck
If you run hero raid, maybe wait and see if you get it from your guild run
Or craft if you really down bad
What if ur down cataclysmic
so is rogue still ass? or is ass the only way to play rouge?
i just accidentallied my way into getting 2 piece on my hunter
like 2 pieces of tier
do we have final numbers on how big the buff was to sigle target?
i got a warbound tier token from running alt raid with my friends on friday, and then this week from the 2 world events i did (my hunter is just a profession alt) the one piece of loot in my vault was tier shoulders
Am I invited to the room?
I’d say sin is like on the border between A and S tier
!design
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
Sure but only if I can pet ur cats
ty
Sure
Was there a data mine for what hero talents benefit from tier set now?
those numbers on the spreadsheet look identical
No but likely it’s just mirroring our mastery
So all plague DS talents now affected
So basically all of our damaging hero talents?
Like mark and stuff
I think whysper talked about it on his latest video
That’s pretty huge no?
Do other classes (idk dk/lock) do plague damage or is this like some weird ass shit
as huge as he says in the latest pin
I never heard of till recently
They’re on their way for a staycation
Cuz we do it now
nvm i peaked into outlaw chat for 2 seconds and now im depressed
Hell yeah
its just a mix of nature and shadow
only the gargoyle bolt of uhdk
does plague
aswell
which is so strange to me
b/c you don't think of a ROGUE of all specs doing plague damage
until you realize it's just nature + shadow
Does the queen ring hold extra value for us since it’s nature dmg?
today is the first time ever my sim results make no sense to my brain and hurt my brain. Both vault and droptimizer results are showing that a second on use trinket is the best way to go
Not really
technically, yes. how much more value is up to you
Theres no interaction with mastery or anything else
IN THEORY we can make the proc go faster, but in reality the difference is probably too small
Gotcha
wouldn't it work with shiv?
It does not interact with our things
But
It’s v good
No
Oki oki
The crit ring?
That’s what i was mainly wondering
i was not aware
@spice surge do we not make it proc faster b/c we do nature damage?
I still have my poison trinket from NW and the contract from nexus princess
tier set change is live?
Doesn’t crit lose value with DS?
also. why is mandate so gods dammed awesome ??
Yeah it interacts with 0% of our things - it would be an iversight
contract is bis in my heart cuz shadow friends uwu
Big dam
on paper but sim
Last time a rogue ability interacted with an item
Is there a soft/hard cap for mastery for sin?
It became game breakingly OP
yeah i got one in vault last week. just constant suprised how good it is
How does it not though? The ring says "Dealing nature damage has a chance to grant you an extra dose"
So they had to remove it
are the new buffs on raidbots?
what item ?
Edge of night with sub
oh, yeah
Not particularly.
They removed the interaction
The chance is like
Egregiously low isn’t it
I’ve not looked at average procs on ring
1rppm
I’ve never been happier since I got that weapon in vault
guess im settling with this today
settling
i just want to go back to end of Cata when fangs of father interacted with tier set lol. only reason ive been leveling a char in cata classic
Big sin chest
the extra nature part of the ring is 1.5 rppm
This guy is “settling” with that and that other guy was “settling” with his myth track BIS weapon

neat , part of me is sad ill never raid mythic
quick guys, behave
no
idk man, this contract is really bugging me here
whispyr is doing his bedge morning scrolling
culdv been a skardyns 😔
it’s freaking noon central
am i tripping or contract trinket does str8 dudu dps
He sent you toe pics too?
rogue who behave end up rolling paladins =/
also cute shadowlands set
yeah he even spread them on the pics
why would you make it 6/6 myth 😭
ye, really putting in the effort
??
??
why wouldnt he
639 dawg
bro is sitting on so many +4 ilvl upgrades
wowhead still shows no DM on vile tincture but idk how quickly it updates
is this the only effect from the trinket? cause this dmg is sus (+11 dawnbreaker)
Your main hand wep is like your biggest priority
Its a ST trinket
doesnt change the fact that he has plenty crests to get and chest is the most valuable slot together with head/legs after weapons and good trinkets
For m+ stat trinkets do better, that’s more of a st trinket
So ye its not gonna do great in aoe
new buffs out? simming 100k dps more for some reason
I see
3 ilvl chest is worth more than like 4 ilvl on hands or smth
not really worth for me to dunking gilded crests on heroic pieces
esp when we're 4/8 lol
anything is worth upgrading
The anniversasry event starts on the 28th of october,does that mean that the anniversary buffs coming in 3 weeks as well?Wasnt that supposed to be on november? 
well, at least no sim required lol
hi guys what is the word on the sin rogue buff % wise? did we get anything official? sorry if this has been asked before
Even likely leading up to 11.0.5
pins
pins friend
Huh
what is blizzard cookin' 
oh yeah I saw it was estimated but wasn't sure if that was official or not. thank you
they're cooking the brain worms in my head
How many Dracthyr rogue are there gonna be in two weeks
Too many

do we not use FoN to clear the witness if we are doing the single target build
ok i have a question for you big brains cause my brain is old and smoothe . sims ( droptimizer and vault) are showing me that a second on use trinket is better than any available other trinket ( i have mandate ) is that right or is it weighting those on use as though im using theming with mark/etc
if youre running vv dont clear, if you arent do clear
not if you have vicious venoms talent
not with vicious venoms
ass assa am I only spending cp on max or on echoing repremand buffed points?
Since we're all playing deathstalker is crit still our second best stat?
ok it appears the single target build has vicious venoms so i wont be doing that
Let's say end game gear
!stats
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
I've got a ring with heavy crit and haste but right now it's my worst stat
is vanish not a DPS cooldown with that talent build too since no imp garrote
22nd?
Yeah doesn't help my vault dilemma
Max if you have darkest night.
sim it then
23rd*** ye sorry misread it from my phone
u are finishing on 5+ cps and when u have darkest night buff on charged combo point from ER or max combo points
I miss the days when we had sims for all the best in slot gear with different talent set comparisons
5+ cp
what're you all running for most 10s?
For my life
I think that’s the build most people run from like 4 and up
Can replace iron wire with double shiv in low keys
you want aoe shive and double shiv for 9 and below this week
thats what most run ye
why would you want aoe shiv this week? for lower keys?
It looks like it does get affected by Lingering Shadows, similar to how Sub LS buffs Mandate and other shadow damage trinkets.
But I think this may already be in the latest SimC build. The ring sims higher for me now than I remember last week.
ye but its fairly negligible
its been in since the tier launched
And also we were assuming it was gonna get fixed, but clearly nothing is getting fixed
why mastery flask?
do you not get darkest night after killing a dungeon boss?
Did raid bots get updated with change? Just resimmed and I'm quite a bit higher now
yes
You should if it had dsm applied to it
thanks! just been leveling my rogue up and found i didnt have it after a lot of bosses - probably just being a dog and not applying DSM lol
is the knife trinket better than spyglass and sac brood at lower ilvls? so if i could never get any of them above 626... the knife wins out?
Depends on sim but it’s very very good at 626 compared to others
thank you for the response, that's what the sim was showing as well, i just wanted to check before considering vault items
Yeah knife is good.
Only reason it’s not up toward our best is it cape at 626
Other than that it fucks
Generally speaking is the Aka-kara Sacbrood good for us?
how annoying is it to use the transmitter trinket from raid?
not really with a WA
Yes
You'd have to ask the guy in the log. I just pulled up one of the first M Sikran logs where the ring was being used.
collect or stand in circle
would it be worth spending 60 gilded crests to upgrade these to 626 or should i save the crests for mythic track?
nice bro we so up
fr
What’s everyone Simming like compared to last week?
Has the sims come out for the fix to our tier. I simmed myself yesterday and today and it’s the same damage.
I logged out in m+ talent so I can’t check
Hi does any1 know how to remove the stealth icon from Shadow UF?
played sin a few seasons ago, im swapping back for keys because sub in buns right now.....can someone break down the CD window to me like im 5 plz lol
Do the dmg in the cds
Yeah you can
Use your current bit
Well yeah my m+ dps went up for sure
Hold
hmmm, i have a max champion track skardyns(619) already, no gilded crests yet to up a hero past that. still using champion track offhand 606
I have a whole thing
Probably safe to assume the same % and I need to stop trying to big brain it lol
offhand is useless
Convert to simc.
offhand is useless
yeah main reason i havent bothered with it at 606 still
id take skardyns and be done with it
Then open logs in a different table
im still thinking hero skardyns is the way to go
Go to your logs
the rest can be got elsewhere
Copy your build from raid
And delete m+ build, paste in raid build
And boom
Simming
when i got champ track skadryns other day it was huge in sims
Unless you rock different gear
!craft
Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for
Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime
Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer
There are a couple bosses that don't actually die. So keep that in mind.
sims tellin me heroic transmitta betta than mythic sac.... chat im cooked
is anyone not having their dawnthread linings stack?
Same
i double checked, and no matter what i do i only get benefit from one
Wouldn’t be if you took skardyns week one bozo
Just die (in game)
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bGF4Ezj9jsJYrc3gA4tPda Idk how but my transmitter is simming higher than skardyn's? Maybe i did something wrong
Why are you Simming 8 minute fights
oh true
ty, is that a common bug
Dawnthread has the same bug as Blue Silk Lining from Dragonflight where it fails to stack.
In order to fix it and trigger your second Dawnthread, take damage to drop under 80% health, then heal back up.
if you dont take the skardyns ur gunna be stuck with a champ skardyns for the rest of the expansion
off hand does extremely little for us
Droptimizer is always weird for me, have you tried Simming gear compare
not sure about st, but in aoe iirc off hand is worth less than bracers
gear compare its not supported at all
yeah i ended up taking it, just because the only other "option" was a hero track chest to replace my champion. and i can get a hero track leather chest easily
It is not supported anymore legacy tool
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Think they mean top gear? Potentially
Also doesnt skardyns shine more in dslice/multi-target scenario?
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
Does anyone have a basic weakaura combo points that shows combo points exact same as the default ones from blizz?
Anyway, many trinkets seem pretty close. Not like spymasters for casters haha
!fuu
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i will get skardyn on this run 🙏
No
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mpofZFybfvj5WcLi3qJR8n
take the sac? or continue farming skardyns 
is it worth it to craft a 636 dagger without embelish? i only play m+ and idk when ill get a mythic track dagger
Yes
thank you, i tried simming ascendance and the 2x armor embelish vs 2x dawnthread and most dps is 2x dawn + 636 crafted daggers
for dungeon slice
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aWaSLkXDRS6TA66WRpigP6 Is this the correct way to simulate? 
Yes, just patchwork for raid
ok ty
What the take on the updates to assassination? Mostly good?
Yes
Any changes to rotation or gearing?
No
Thanks
anyone have numbers on the dps increase in st?
whyspr has a video
does spatter from bloodbound horror reach the adds?
No
Are the hero talents being buffed by the 2p now after changes?
Think so.
Not 100% sure.
But like 90%
feels like it st feels way higher on dummies
the blue post said "appropriate hero talents", so should be
Yo Follow the Blood is simming higher now in Dungeon Slice by 11k dps
with the changes to getting 30% dps upgrade to only 2 targets to Rupture instead of 3
Would love an opinion here, https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nxWwHMsogX4DcgrdPBSSkd
prob transmitter?
Probably, it's champion track though. And using two catalyst charges on champion track gear feels like a waste
what else are you going to use your charges on?
versus taking the 616 chest to catalyze with another piece for the 2p
all your gear is champion track, your charges are going to waste if you don't use them
I would take the 616 chest and use the charges on that and my helm
Chest is the worst tier to take
Just go farm some keys
Upgrade your gear to at least hero
7s are doable at your ilvl if you make your own group
i belive our burst in single target is much better now
7s doable at 590 period
I don't think your gear is good enough to worry that much about min maxing your cat charges

it wasnt a big buff
our burst wasnt even bad
obviosuly do what you want, but I am taking transmitter in that spot
still sims lower for me, how much crit do u have?
4 now
Oh my bad
I'll craft as soon as I get the crests
was very late to the expansion
to the delve mines
Honestly
as far as having crests...
Yeah tier 8 delves would be sick for you
I yearn for the mines…
I yearn for her
I should call ehr
We made it boys
I got quite a few hero track pieces from delves and catalyzed two of them. Got a piece from a boss and the token from ansurek heroic
This list is such a meme
Ur so real for that
dont get overwhelmed by all the invites
You guys get invited ?
sometimes
S tier is like 50 points above f
yeah alright taking the trinket and i'll catalyst hero track gear when i get them, thanks boys
That trinket sucks balls to play with
lak;sdjf;lkasjdf
It’s also a weird cd
Ur a weird cd bud
Sub only trinket

But yeah
JUMP 3 TIMES
Sub only trinket
If you miss a cast?
Bad beats
But actually
Last week
It could have been the juicer in m+
I have the trinket fuck it in raid
Dw sub aint a spec now anyway
Grace better
Natty syncs 
it has to be better than kiss of death though...
Sub and assa does the same shitty singletarget, assa gets +4% sub stays small
Does that mean ur coming back home king

Yeah we’re shit
Death sounds kinda good..
Need more buffs
this mean i can pug keys now
Absolutely not
Not with that color name
You’re still melee
just run your own keys
xD

And not the top dog
fdk be like
+4% for assa, nothing for sub 
Same story on sikran
So sit down mister crash
Sub scales
mate
i rather have them fix sub first
Dw

I dropped my fdk at the start of the season because I liked assa better 🤡
instead of just putting random % buff son it
and we have to play this shity barely functional sub again
cus lol number big
Some people may enjoy this iteration
when you read "they buffed Black Powder, thats a Small ST dmg increase", you know shit is fucked

are you telling me I should level an enh shaman for fotm?
o
this is why i dont look at logs no more
COLLECT OR STAND IN CIRCLE
JUMP 3 TIMES
I found that one hard to make out sometimes so I changed it to PAD OR BALL
Aight trinket was an instant take when I realized you get the infiltrator's shroud toy from it ez gg
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COLLECT OR STAND IN CIRLCE
Jump 3 times
which circle
good meowning 
Did we get any numbers on how much % our ass got buffed
it's gotta get data mined first so nothing concrete probably until the tc's are awake
does it matter, sin is best spec anyway 
we're still fanning for clear the witness when we dont take VV right?
uhm
what was this topic again about fann being st used ?

whats dn
I’m not memeing here dude

19 in French
dix neuf gang

Ok pitbull
dale
do we know the implications of the changes now that was in the patchnotes?
since na servers are up
pins
It’s likely the actual #
i cant decide if i open vault for sin or outlaw
i kno i have 636 crafted weapon
fricken welp
for sin?
@pure moth i have 636 crafted weapon for sin and only a champion weapon for outlaw
Was maining sub but probably leaning sin now?
for sin neck is massive
Don't play outlaw
but ctw proccs o.o ?
ifu have bis trinkets
isnt outlaw good now since buff
necks pretty good
This sounds easy then?
Both specs are fine
We are a 2 spec class
Rip sub
i just dont kno if crafted weapon is bis for sin
It’s fine:
ilvl king
So 639 mh is bis
But 636 is more than fine
I never play outlaw lol.. my response was half sarcastic. But as quake said easy choice. You got sin weapons.. might as well open as outlaw for chance
ctw = cut tuna wrap
?
Ur making a mountain out of a molehill
so then i either craft weapon for outlaw or open vault as outlaw then correct ?
Sorry clear the witnesses
ahhh
Ye
are the buffs in sims?
Yes should be
since buff for both specs what spec do you think will b better for m+
and i hope are singletarget is much better cause are single target was shit
i need to investigate, i had rogue diet 
rn ass is good for m+
@spice spire the only thing is my crafted weapon is 636 for sin but my off hand is only 619 champion
will offhand from 636 make a big difference from 619 ?
ahhh yes yes ctw
off hand barely matters
Offhand is negligible for us
my sin is lvl 74, will i have trouble to gear it once i reach 80, or be delves still good as a solo geae farm maschine
ST is still pretty anemic compared to the field but at least for me buffs were like nearly 5% in m+ build
Closer to 8% for me but I’m different
(I haven’t logged in and am fucking around)
@spice spire i got a skardyns in my vault
Yeah my gear ass tho
Delves are great mechanic to catch-up
oki nice
Hero track this isn’t it
yeah, I'm not really doing keys tho
good doggo 

isnt it true we cant do it anymore ?
I’m still wearing 606 pieces in like 5 slots but at least I did craft a mh 
waiting until they finally finish nerfing the dungeons and fix the affixes lol
i heard , snd will get passive next patch ? 
We can just doesn’t apply to vault on reset
Yes
In 2 weeks
Which means a prime bind is opening 
That’s a new one. 😂
Hello guys,
I'm not sure of something, does caustic spatter "spat" around me or aroung the the mob i hit ?
I do not care to correct that emote
Mob
so what will happen , can someone clear that ? will it vanish, does it fuse with another ability ?
8y from center
It’s just a passive with CttC
Iirc
alright, thank you 🙂
CttC ?
Cut to the chase
ah
@spice spire is that true we cant run question anymore for spam delves
Current talent that extends it
ahhhhh
Doesn’t count toward vault prog on reset

are anniversary changes getting implemented soon?
22nd for new patch
not what i asked
Oh in sims
implemented in raidbots
Likely
im curious if its a buff or nerf
I’d say buff.
But that’s feelcrafting
soo ... i dont believe my crit stacking rogue still works 
Yeah but it also opens talents elsewhere
Crit is fine
But I agree ER kinda bigly for DS
that thistle tea change is so odd
when i play sin now , sometimes i feel like i have a energy hole , but a big one
It’s perfect actually
i wonder how it being tied to shiv is gonna work where we are holding shiv for kb always
Because you can minmax it
pepsi
ER also feels very nice imo, in all target counts
wait the tea change took place already
Or just let it rip
more burst
no, not for 2 more weeks
they nerfed kb just to keep buffing our burst...
to dragonflight my rogue was on 78% crit 
!design
Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.
- No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
- 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
- You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target
my only concern is that it just uses all the charges and i dont have one for kb/shiv
fuck you mean 78% crit
what the fuck are you on
Crit obviously
crit rating apparently
ofc crit rating im not an imbecile
take me back to BFA S4 when we had 60% haste
i fear that we might have to pool over autoconsume or something
which will uh
but 78% crit is not a number you can achieve
i mean it is what it is
Gonna make pooling more important
Only 60%?
it is o.o
Rookie numbers
quake can
just build different
It was like 68% for Exsang iirc
i had 78% crit, 12 haste and 67 mastery
quake can equip a 2h on sin rogue
Buddy I’m rocking 118% crit rn
this guy playing another game
Yeah myself
overwhelming power expedient exsang snapshot vitashard blood of the enemy galecaller's 
well it was dragonflight
More like 120% ah good times
i had enought gear to test stuff out
yea buddy i have played dragonflight
78% crit
@vital haven hey that's when we used to raid together 
Totally normal gameplay 
is not a number you get to
man its incredible how they never hit overwhelming power
dont believe me then 
as a secondary trait
if you mean with master assassin active, thats something else
but you cant just say random shit like that
misinformation yeaaaaaaaahhhhh i love it
Guys what spec did you guys run zekir as?
Sin
how is this missingormating ppl ?
can you use vanish or does he reset?
stop troll
has anyone got any macros for the rogue?
struggling with all the abilities
probably because im bad haha
DM and KB makro still works ?
only thing I can think of to reduce binds is to macro your on-use trinket to Deathmark
why would you ever macro dm and kb
do i take neck to replace my veteran neck https://gyazo.com/a4949ad15f8e017615cb37b9c69bb0b8
They’re both gcd
they are o.o
that neck is crit mastery
they're probably thinking of dance/kb
how would I do this? ive tried using /use 14 but it wont work for me
!opener
I'm too old to remember the slot numbers so I just type the trinket name
What is the trinket?
!guide
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Has opener in wh
doesnt wh have also the makros
Some yeah
that shit owned for like one patch imo, like it's not bad to have something crazy once in a while

but it did feel very strange to naturally fill every global as sin
any1 noticed their dps increase after reset with the tier piece buff?
Are the hotfixes in raidbots now if I sim?
Yeah it was also my first patch back in a decade so I was like “what the fuck is happening”
Yes
Try 13, I’m pretty sure that’s the other trinket slot
Thank you!
Or just move your trinket around
Either that or I hit massive gains with no changes
13 and 14 are trinket slots 1 and 2 yeah
“Massive”
yeah ive tried that as well mate
generally when you write on use trinkets into macros you want to have the trinket used before the ability
as well
do you have to have it setup as /castsequence ?
for example for grace
/use and /cast are both interchangeable for abilities, but /cast 13 won't work
or /use 14
Yeah
Have you tried /use 13
should be like
/use 13
/cast Deathmark
It doesn’t work
if u have the trinket equipped on slot 13 and press the macro,the macro will attempt to activate slot 14,so it wont work
That’s why I’m asking which trinket

doggo getting ignored 
not sure if it is here
sorted it now
but sometimes it is 
im sure i tried macroing it in with my mutliate before and it didnt work
upper trinket slot = 13
lower slot = 14
only barbarians put their active trinket in slot 13
I didn't need any more reasons to hate that trinket sir
Yeah it’s deathmark
Does anyone know the Spell ID for Scent of Blood? Wowhead one doesnt seem to work with WA tracking
ive sorted it mate haha 🙂
cant u shift click from spellbook to macro?
@slate crown
What if double on use
it's me, barbarian here, sacking ur cities 
I’m a barbarian ig
Might as well call me Conan
cease
So what did the raw numbers end up being from the buff?
is there anything else I can do to make it easier?
make what easier
im unsure when im supposed to use kingsbane and deathmark and shiv
read the guide! it's really good
rogue doesnt have alot of binds
and has visual representations
I always open in stealth,ambush then garrote and rupture
That’s objectively false
But it’s not the worst
!guide
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IV: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/assassination-rogue-pve-dps-guide
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Brm 
man not a single guild that has progressed/is progressing does so with an assa
gragrgh
4% buff gamechanging
depends,its getting rly messy in pvp
uhh
!fuu
Rogue Spreadsheet - Light Version / Dark Version
hopefully he replies soon cuz this is driving me nuts
also if we dont kill ansurek until 22nd october -> assa is the play
depends what you’re comparing to
surely
yo anyone know how i can choose when to use two on use trinkets on raidbots
like i want to use one with opener and one 45 sec later and keep going that cycle
i'll log in and grab it for you, but i don't know why you'd track sob in most cases you should be spreading ruptures anyway after cds
oh are those buffs to our tier and stuff in now?
Yeah pvp is another beast
arena123 macros 
i'm too bad, i just use focus
two sets of utility cds is enough
there are certain moments where I either want to prio spreading sob for the buff while CT is active or just CT before sob is active and i want to track which one i should do first
She’s a busy lass she’ll respond when she can
thanks mang

If you sim top gear it sims both permutations
Idk how to manually do it
Yea but would it just use it after 20 sec
But both should pop out
i swear any ability/talent that's has multiple iterations has had like 5 duped spell ids
cause im trying to sim frost dk and the burst windows are on 45 sec cds so i wanna hold it for 45 sec
If you use skardyns after death mark in macro will the extra mastery not apply? I put the use after deathmark so the icon will still use the DM timer and roll with the GCD. Is there a way to fix that while still using the trinket prior to dm?
im aware the discord i am in
Oh yeah
and i dont want two on use trinkets 💀
That’s not the issue
i still haven't managed to get bonespike to show the fucking icon properly, it refuses to load it randomly 
It’s just a more complicated bit.
Like
why are people using crit mastery dagger offhand instead of the woreship crit mastery one ?
is it dumb to wait the 45 seconds
If trinkets aren’t implemented by tcs to have specific
you can check the timeline when you do a quick sim i think
transmitter and kharados
bro when im in m+ and i use that shit
i have to get 2 inches from the screen
to see the fucking orb
i hate this thing, but actually i think i hate it less than witherbark for some reason
2 inches is a lot for some people man don't be hatin' the 2 inches
ive sharded it,no thx sir
For some reason everytime I use the transmitter it just asks me to jump
need that
must be nice
I just wish the orbs and the thing on the ground would like glow a lot
Idk why
so i can actually see them
mine is always stand in the dumbest place ever goodluck
High rolling transmitter 
does any one kno the reasoning ?
COLLECT OR STAND IN CIRLCE
I’m stuck with the transmitter too tho
know
For? I must have missed
Worse trinkets
oh wait raidbots auto waits the 45 seconds
On the 2nd Deathmark, when is vanish for improved garrot best used?
god this website is so insane
i don't know why we didn't just get intellect coral like all the casters did
especially since transmitter is a universal trinket, idk why spymasters couldn't have been
Whenever garrote is close to running out
why are people using critvers dagger offhand instead of the woreship crit mastery one ?
@spice spire
Oh that’s easy
Right, but do you want to improved garrot prior to using deathmark/=kingsbane so it's already rolling
There are no "recommended stat levels" or "breakpoint of X stat" or "required" amount of any stats. This is an outdated way to think about stats and simply is not relevant to the spec. If you're looking for a quick recommendation: Agi >> Crit = Mastery >= Haste > VersatilityIt's always more accurate to simulate your own character, as stat procs from trinkets/enchants can often de-value their stat relative to others. Stats are not a rigid construct, their values change constantly in relation to each other depending on your character.
- Fatebound will generally want more crit than Deathstalker due to Deal Fate
- Deathstalker prefers more Mastery/Haste due to Darkest Night guaranteeing a crit
- Always Always ALWAYS sim yourself through Top Gear and Droptimizer for accurate results
bout to get raidbots premium just to give this dude money 😩
@spice spire so should i use my crit mastery offhand at 619 or my crit vers 1 at 619 i have both
I got 2 HC daggers now, might have to learn stuff again
are you talking bout the siphoning stilleto embelishment dagger? it just doesn't do good damage compared to the other emblishments
Oh it legitimately does not matter.
It will change ur dps by 0.00001%
no the blood kissed dagger or the woreship dagger
that embellishment is actually fucking dog it's so scuffed
i just used my valor stones and upgraded my blood kissed cause it simmed slightly higher i think
it drops from the raid
If you’re meaning the emblishment dagger (not ascension) it’s really bad
even tho my other 1 was alrdy upgraded
Why are you overthinking gear so much
Guess the original build is back on the menu
does anyone know if you use runed crest to upgrade champion gear up to 8/8 will the hero gear still cost runed crest for first couple ranks?
Eww
not even 69 
Real
It’s a simple life
It will discount it up to the ilvl, unless it is a trinket/ring/weapon
no vv 
how similar is this ass to legion?
we stan shrouded in this household
Enjoy fok st nerd
Not similar at all
but shiv kingsbane etc
toxic blade is shiv
cmon man
ah
wait you guys dont have your shiv icon set to toxic blade?
I called it shiv still
in a macro?
cd is 30s and not 25s now though
any recommenten crit stat i need 4 assa?
And it was basically pray to rng gods that PB procs
More PB procs the godlier you were
i miss 25s TB like
!stats
maybe i'm a psycho but i liked that our cds didn't really sync right
🫡 Moroes goin on strike again?
i also have my ss bind on outlaw
:S
o7
in a macro with the saberslash icon
what are the neck things called to put gems in my neck ?
that goes hard
Magnificent Jeweler's Setting
i swear
it's full degen yeah
for their wa....
I wish I weren’t too, but here we are
ur beautiful in spirit
do i need main stat gem crafted or can i get away with the gems i buy on the auction house ??
Ty bbgirl
oh you playing again?
actually there's one that also gives movespeed
unlucky
@shy pecan gonna eat ur ass big dog (ily tho)
oh yea btw if anyone uses whispyrs afenar edit weakaura turn all the models off aparently they absolutely fuck your fps
from reddit so take with grain of salt
!lag
Significant WA lag
Weakauras has identified a source of large lag on some weakauras. This happens on any weakauras using MODELS in their display tab. Deleting the model or turning the affected weakaura to never load should give back a couple of FPS.
You can check for impacted weakauras by running the following script in your in-game chat. If any are affected, their name will show in your chat: lua /run local function _(a)if a.regionType=="model"then return 1 end for i,s in pairs(a.subRegions or{})do if s.type=="submodel"then return 1 end end end for n,a in pairs(WeakAurasSaved.displays)do if _(a)then print(n)end end
you can buy main stat gems on ah too i think. doesn't matter though, sim it or yolo it, all the same

What’s dn
!wa
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Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater
not sure if those had
although i changed the weakaura quite a bit so i have to go remove all mine manually lmao
@spice spire do i need main stat gem crafted or can i get away with the gems i buy on the auction house ??
I mean I never take a full pack for rogue.
wonder how long it would take me to learn this spec after playing outlaw since bfa or something
SICK all my combo point tracking trips this
dude i was using afenars weakauras on like all my characters i was trying everything to fix my fps lmao
I yoink wa elements I like from multiple people
and frankenstein something together
Ah is fine
Best will be main stat. But save gold. Your probably not done gesring
I don't really lag on brood though
i do love puddles spawning in bosses model though
for you, pretty fast
tbh
A for visibility
casters play movement speed one
Casters fr payphone this game
!wa
Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

@spice spire i just got bis neck from vault
my only death last night during mythic prog was due to the swirlies indicator being hidden by the eggs and the webbing graphic on them 🙂




