assassination

[feral wasp]

at least they removed slice n dice

[young dust]

thats my excuse for bad dps, i like it

[grim jay]

Green puddle with MA

[prime flame]

You can say that, but it's all building 5-7 combo points and throwing them at a target with the same spender over and over, then once every so often you get to use your coveted OTHER SPENDER then you go back to using the basic one again. Different pacing and upkeeps like RTB vs Ruptures, but ultimately the same loops.

[feral wasp]

i think rogue has the most boring hero talents

[subtle tundra]

100% ma bring it back fucking cowards

[royal lantern]

that is a take

[feral wasp]

build spend build spend, people like procs

[royal lantern]

a really really bad take, but a take

frost mage is actually like rogue, you generate icicles and then launch them with glacial spike after building up 6 and repeat

[young dust]

i wanted a single target gigachad shadow clone that copies my rotation on the target that I used it, including interrupts and stuns

[prime flame]

Yeah, I mean if you want to act like dispatch/evisc/envenom arent the same thing, and SS/Mut/Backstab aren't the same thing, go ahead

[subtle tundra]

dont tell this guy every spec is a builder spender

[warm vortex]

I feel like the reason rogue isn’t played rn isn’t just cause of difficulty. A lot of people have said it isn’t fun for them

[feral wasp]

lol even d4 has a this type of playstyle on rogue

[royal lantern]

they arent????

mate, are you trolling rn and im stupid for taking the bait

or just weird lol

[feral wasp]

they are same skills, wdym

[prime flame]

You're off one, homie

[normal mist]

I mean they are if we think in a super MACRO way

Like everything else in the game

[royal lantern]

like, rogue is the class with the highest amount of spec OTP's because they all 3 play so fundemantally different, and you show up and say "eh they are all the same cus CP generating/spending"

??

[sharp viper]

yes

[grim jay]

You do realize thats most classes in the game right? They all have some builder spender System and a class unique System obviously is shared through the specs

[feral wasp]

compare sub to assasination and frost to unholy dk

see the spec difference

[sturdy mesa]

What are blud waffling about, just build combo points, use combo points

[strange python]

What is that supposed to mean

[grim jay]

Rogue specs are as different as specs in the same class on the same role can get. Thats also a reason for people struggling if they switch specs

[prime flame]

Combo Points and energy further pigeon hole the specs to function similarly. Feral is extremely similar for the same reason

[strange python]

Okay I compared them and concluded both play majorly different than the other

What are we saying here

[strange python]

Feral is what

[novel star]

classic player spec analysis

[strange python]

Are we just saying things

[novel star]

at least its usually classic players

[sharp viper]

rouge specs are very versatile, we got bleedy poison rouge, stabby shadow rouge, pirate rouge, green rouge, holy rouge, furry rouge

[novel star]

who lose their minds upon realizing this

[novel star]

is green rogue havoc

[wispy epoch]

anyone have a braindead weakaura

that announces when tank dies

or my focus target dies

[grim jay]

Idk if you think high apm with procs, slow apm with many maintenance buffs/debuffs and mid apm with CD management and some buff/debuff tracking are the same

[subtle tundra]

feral is the better assa rogue though

[grim jay]

More Power to you

[novel star]

[grim jay]

But its one of the wildest takes ive seen this year

[strange python]

Coming from feral, it’s the other way around

[novel star]

fr

[strange python]

Feral is sin without qol

[novel star]

feral is such a shit spec to play

[strange python]

Well

[novel star]

it feels like garbage

[strange python]

I liked playing it

It’s just

Idk man

[grim jay]

So basically raw and animalic

Ha

[fallen arch]

U are a cat

I mean

[novel star]

snapshot rotation in 2024

[strange python]

I don’t have feint, cloak, evasion, shadowstep

[novel star]

aintnoway

[strange python]

Snapshotting ain’t that huge

Big myth

[grim jay]

But we snapshot CT on ovinax for boss dmg aswell

[sharp viper]

no havoc is green warrior, green rogue is monk

[grim jay]

[novel star]

"aint that huge" (is the entire spec)

minmax wise at least

[strange python]

Very minor minmax

You snapshot once every 30 seconds

If you can’t manage that

Then idk

[novel star]

ah

yeh makes sense

[subtle tundra]

tbh that was the only selling point

i had

to try it out

[novel star]

i was torn between monk and havoc for an alt

went with havoc

[grim jay]

Feral was great when they had claws of shirvalla, now you are just a domesticated pet cat

[grim jay]

Bad decision

[novel star]

crazy how the spec didnt change at all

[sharp viper]

i miss claws of shirvalla

[strange python]

Feral was more fun in df tbf, I don’t enjoy the way it plays now

[strange python]

What???

[sharp viper]

fun police deleted gladiator warrior and claws of shirvalla

[grim jay]

Everyone is complaining about how it now has many buttons idk

People all say smth different

[novel star]

same amount as df

[strange python]

It’s the same amount of buttons but

[novel star]

except throw glaive i guess if ur the other tree

[strange python]

It’s very specific

[novel star]

i mean

the meta combo is different

[strange python]

I mean it is

[prime flame]

Gladiator didn't even make it out of heroic week of Highmaul. I don't even know what the point of them adding that was

[novel star]

but everything else is legit the same

[strange python]

That’s why you see

So many bad havocs

„Meta combo is different“

That’s all your damage bro

[grim jay]

But honestly id whip out the monk. Monk is insane fun and I would alt one aswell if brew was better

[strange python]

If that’s different the whole spec is

[novel star]

not really true

[strange python]

Very true since this expansion

[novel star]

you have 2 minutes of pressing buttons between the meta cd

and that entire rotation is the same

90% of your playtime is the same

[prime flame]

Not the discussion to have on a rogue discord

[novel star]

i wouldnt say sin is a wildly different spec if we started pressing env dm shiv kb in a different order

[strange python]

„Outside of cds where you just press filler and spender it’s the same“

Bro

Sin changed less from df to tww

Than havoc

Come on

[novel star]

if u could engage in a hypothetical for 2 sec ud know thats not what i was saying

dm kb is all our damage

if we changed the dm kb order to something different it would still be the same spec outside of the 2 minute burst window

it would have been cool if havoc played differently other than just meta

/ glaive

[strange python]

Wdym

Idk what ur trying so say, they went from 5 steps during meta to 15(?)

To get their damage

Idk

[dawn heath]

Sup gaymers

[strange python]

Tww havoc plays very different

Yo aljan

Ur havoc gamer right

[royal lantern]

but blizz said that feral players like that, so shut up nerd and shapeshift for a cr

[dawn heath]

Yes

[royal lantern]

[dawn heath]

Super havoc main

400days played on the class 💀

[strange python]

How many buttons is felscarred cd sequence?

It’s pretty large that’s all I know

[dawn heath]

Your opener is 19 buttons

[strange python]

[dawn heath]

In a correct secquence

[kindred hinge]

Feral was fun in Fireland

[dawn heath]

The havoc is face roll spec is a outdated myth the spec is fairly complex

[kindred hinge]

And Cata in generak

[novel star]

i never said it was faceroll lmao

[dawn heath]

Na but alot of people think so

[novel star]

just that other than meta combo its p much the same as df

normal prio and essb combo didnt rly change

[novel star]

ye im relearning it

opener is legit the only part thats like

anything to learn tho

after that its just the same spec until meta comes back

[dawn heath]

Essence breka global 17 is crazy

[novel star]

ye lmao

[dawn heath]

Took me a long time to reprogram my brain

[iron ivy]

I believe that, after rolling your head on the keyboard for so long

[arctic socket]

Didn’t expect to see some dh talk in rogue this morning haha

[prime flame]

Dh was already harder than any rogue spec last expansion too

[dawn heath]

It depends

Its very hard to play in keys imo but in raids its easier

Requires so much spatial awareness with movement

But sub is more complex than havoc

[kindred hinge]

My Dh mate choosing to Hunt when puddles are up on Ansurek.

[prime flame]

Something must have wildly changed since when I played Sub in DF then

[rain wraith]

DH is for amphetamine users

[kindred hinge]

I also have a vivid memory of a high COS where I was tanking and I asked the DH to cage the add on first boss

Seen him consider it, vengeful and dash straight into a pack. Ngl that was hilarious

[rotund oak]

this is some BS

[strong wing]

How much do we benefit from pi in st? Is there any sheet with those numbers?

[arctic socket]

We don’t

[novel star]

i cant speak to the difficulty of sub

but havoc was 100% harder than sin

and mayb outlaw too

[arctic socket]

O.o

[rotund oak]

ye thats some BS as well

[arctic socket]

Yall got some wild statements this morning lmao

[novel star]

its not a fake spec anymore rly

[arctic socket]

Harder than outlaw?

[novel star]

i mean its not hard but wow just isnt a hard game

[rotund oak]

they came here to sniff dh copium this morning

[dawn heath]

Its not a easy spec you should try it

[prime flame]

Havoc has a fragility to its movement and uptime that rogue specs don't have. Especially when momentum is taken

[royal iron]

!craft

[prisma monolith]

Preferences currently are wrist/belt/dagger for embellishment depending on what you go for

Darkmoon Sigil Ascension (dagger) + Writhing Banding (wrist) is generally "the best" in raid, but has ramp time and is worse in m+
2x Dawnthread (wrist/belt) is generally the best in m+ and not far behind of Ascencion/Banding for raids. Equal in single target at 80% uptime

Craft a dagger if you're unlucky and don't get one and are down bad and crying about your pathetic little 580 main hand dagger. Put Ascencion on it
If you have a big dagger in your main hand already read the above and pick whatever you prefer

[dawn heath]

But Rogue also isnt easy

[novel star]

outlaw and havoc are similar in that theyre one of very few specs in the game that actually are an execution test

[grim jay]

Its ragebait at this point, I'm pretty sure

[novel star]

u have to press the buttons well, not just press the right ones

[young dust]

Yea i like that

[rotund oak]

yeah its just bs from ppl that dont know anything else than yapping

[young dust]

havoc's mobility is a blessing and a curse

[grim jay]

As in the speed of the button press and how much of your love you put into?

[quiet oar]

im conflicted

[novel star]

buddy i have been playing sin and havoc the entire time ive played wow

[grim jay]

Me every morning

[novel star]

theyre like the only specs i feel confident talking about

primarily sin tho

[dawn heath]

Everyone is biased

[rotund oak]

💀

[primal jolt]

hello pumpers

[deep gyro]

Just buff moonkins

[novel star]

have u played modern havoc

[deep gyro]

Oop mt

[novel star]

in bfa and sl it was a pretty pathetic spec

[quiet oar]

Someone saying rogue isnt hard or Sap advocating for rogue being hard, thats very conflicting

[rotund oak]

bro feels confident to speak for two specs but says outlaw is easier than havoc

[novel star]

but its real news now

[rotund oak]

makes sense

[grim jay]

Gday pumper

[arctic socket]

Havoc dh being called more complicated then outlaw just wild

[rotund oak]

with a couple of beers

[quiet oar]

i dunno which side i choose

[novel star]

never said more complicated

[arctic socket]

Harder

[proper hare]

Do you guys also semi despair after bl? Feels like i have 0 energy

[novel star]

the thing with wow is that people have a hard time differentiating difficulty and complexity

outlaw and havoc are both not very complex

[grim jay]

I would support the old man

[novel star]

but you can fuck the specs up really bad if you dont execute it properly

[grim jay]

!design

[prime flame]

Outlaw is harder than havoc because sometimes I don't hear my game go "KACHING" and I'm not sure whether I should press BtE again

[prisma monolith]

Running out of energy in single target is completely normal, intended design of Assassination. You want to be playing for the highest uptime on Envenom, and not blindly spamming away all your energy. Rapid Injection, Sanguine Blades, and Vicious Venoms all play into this gameplay.

• No, haste will not make this feel noticeably better.
• 10% haste only contributes to around 2 actions per minute
• You should be playing for envenom uptime in single target

[quiet oar]

But the old man said Sub in S3/S4 was big hard and so complicated

[rotund oak]

just stop plz

[quiet oar]

which was not

the case

[novel star]

sin is not very complex either but also has barely any execution check

[young dust]

if you had all the time in the world to think about your next button in outlaw...

[grim jay]

Minmaxing with stupid killtimers was kinda complex

[novel star]

ya thats execution difficulty tho imo

[grim jay]

But ye

At its core not that hard

[quiet oar]

but thats the case for most specs

most are relatively easy to learn

[arctic socket]

Honestly bm more complex then sub

[quiet oar]

but hard to master

[young dust]

could be, for me its complexity with a time variable

[novel star]

different words same opinion at da end of da day

[grim jay]

No you either can press or cant press your CD on most. I meant with the dust cdr

[young dust]

agreed

[rotund oak]

im playing my hunter and im watching netflix on ym 2nd screen

[arctic socket]

Helkiki gamer fr fr

I think that’s like the one spec it works well on

[rotund oak]

oops got caught

[grim jay]

Are we back to behaving like outlaw apm are insane in the grand scheme of things

[rotund oak]

hekili is gross,i wont lose my time with silly stuff

but hunter is legit the easiest class ive ever played

[arctic socket]

That’s why it’s good for that spec

I’m pulling that out my ass if it’s good or bad

[grim jay]

I think bm and retri are kinda equal for me

[young dust]

never played it, is it dumber than ret?

[primal jolt]

equally dumb

[rotund oak]

ive only tried to master hpally for pvp fam,never tried to tank or play ret

[arctic socket]

Look at the wowhead rotation

Kekw

[rotund oak]

but from ppl that play it im getting its easy

[prime flame]

Easiest spec has to be ele now unless I'm really not understanding what that spec is doing rn

[grim jay]

Its basically bm but half melee

[young dust]

I honestly feel no satisfaction playing rotations like ret

[proper hare]

If you get hit by anything as bm you’re bad at the game

[primal jolt]

never tell a ret paladin his spec is easy they get offended

[grim jay]

With more survivability and utility

[arctic socket]

Ret dps has always been easy to play

[hallow sonnet]

I enjoyed surv playstyle tbh

Many "popping off" moments

[grim jay]

Many do Ive heard

[quiet oar]

Survival SL was peak

[prime flame]

They should make it go "kaching" when you get enough holy power to use divine storm so it can be hard like Outlaw

[rotund oak]

true paladins do have those,shields and bubbles and buffs and auras ,its just a powerhouse rly

[young dust]

FR i get pissed off when ranged get hit by pools in broodtwister

you have like 20 yards just for yourself

[rotund oak]

ive enjoyed SV in pvp,its very fun

it pumps

[young dust]

without clutter and purple AMZ

[hallow sonnet]

SV in SL was nice. It was also very punishing with the set bonus. Very similar to how BTE is for outlaw, but kinda even worse

[kindred hinge]

Trap dancing explosif shot was peak SV, Blizz had to nerf that in les sthan three week because they culd not have people having fun

[quiet oar]

God i wish SV was more like SL

It feels so bad

not stacking haste

on my survival

[rotund oak]

SV is a thing now isnt it

[quiet oar]

Ye but its slow

[rotund oak]

ive done couple of keys with SVs

[grim jay]

Unpopular opinion, but I liked the ranged SV more

[quiet oar]

Ok grandpa

Its time for the bed now

[grim jay]

I kinda wished for SV to be a petless melee

[quiet oar]

Your Mittagsschlaf

[rotund oak]

[young dust]

give me a ranged throwing shuriken rogue

[rotund oak]

we cant say anything,they pulling out the age gun

[grim jay]

Ranged rogue spec would kill the other rogue specs

[hallow sonnet]

I really tend to get bored everytime I play any ranged dps

[quiet oar]

Especially in Keys

you literally

chill in the back

[young dust]

wdym survival is alive on hunter

[dim mural]

SoO SV was peak gameplay, when you chain procced

[hallow sonnet]

Just feels like the only difficulty that ranged dps has is fighting the inner annoyance that you have to move at times

[arctic socket]

Am I tweaking or did rogue use to have a combo point shuriken throw

[rotund oak]

i think the only ranged dps that makes me wanna play is mage,its just too powerful and has everything

[grim jay]

Yeah literally 99% of the time people pick the ranged hunters over surv even if they perform worse

[quiet oar]

and even when this happens, they have some procs or instants to cover that

[hallow sonnet]

Dragonbreath/Blastwave is kinda fun as a mage. Because it has a positional aspect

[kindred hinge]

Trap dance mate, when you had to alternate going melee to drop your explosive trap and then go range for explosive shot and wyvern. Was fun and engaging

Until you died of a frontal but w/e you had fun

[dim mural]

Don't think I played that

[kindred hinge]

They nerfed it rapidly, it was during Wotlk end of first tier when BM got nerfed

Or when they fixed the bug that was making BM insane

[grim jay]

It even was a major concern with turning wft into skyfury

[brisk path]

when you recraft item with different embelishment, does it still ask for crests?

[grim jay]

As in why take an enhancer if you can take ele

[novel star]

naw

you reuse the same enchanted crest

and spark

just need new mats

pretty sure anyway

[brisk path]

coz in recraft tab it is currently trying to use my lower crest

[novel star]

should be able to reselect whatever one is already in it

[grim jay]

Recraft only needs new mats and whatever you wanna change on it

[rotund monolith]

i rolled Tauren rogue because i thought war stomp would be super nice in M+, but the 5 target cap makes it unreliable. And it seems like dwarfs are not as OP anymore since no more bursting. What are the bis races currently? in terms of actual usage of racials

[novel star]

like when i open recraft order for my 636 belt i just see the enchanted gilded preselected

[grim jay]

Still dwarf and nelf for mechanics you can meld

As always

[rotund monolith]

but dwarf more for the defensive aspect i assume

[grim jay]

The other racial is fairly good aswell

Dps aspect is a joke anyways

[prime flame]

If you're doing higher M+, prob dwarf

[spring sigil]

Im looking forward to our st buffs tomorrow

[slim pebble]

Happy tuning day to all who celebrate

[grim jay]

I still have 27h left to go until I can

[kindred hinge]

Tauren and Hightauren animation when in stealth >>>>> any qol

[rotund monolith]

oh i agree it was more in terms of which racials with utilities had more impact. Things like aoe purge from belf's etc so was just curious what current state looks like

[nova aspen]

i hate buffs

[slim pebble]

I forgot about our EH brothers

[grim jay]

Ye purely for what they do its dwarf and nelf

[rotund monolith]

how many meldable mechanics are there currently?

[slim pebble]

Just wait until the patch and go Dracthyr

[grim jay]

EU but I need to work

[rotund monolith]

dracthyr rogue? that sounds yikes xd

[spring sigil]

I've got orc rogue currently. Been tempted to race change to earthern allied but ill lose my shrek transmog 😅

[grim jay]

#wow-general message

[slim pebble]

You can stay in visage form

[novel star]

gnome is broken too

[grim jay]

Brother stop

I like you

But

[slim pebble]

Can’t gnomes fail jump skips

[grim jay]

Thats too much

[novel star]

and goblin!

[grim jay]

[novel star]

just situational

[prime hull]

Master assassin sims highest for me but no one seems to play it. Do I trust the sim?

[novel star]

goblin is legit bis

if they werent goblins

[rotund monolith]

ah dope - thanks!

[novel star]

always trust the robot

cringe tho

[rotund monolith]

i dont even know what their racials do tbh haha

[novel star]

dracthyr racials are 2 aoe stops

[brisk path]

MA will probs be good in 11.0.5 where you get 12seconds of it

[novel star]

uh

and double jumping

[arctic socket]

Don’t they get extra mastery too

[novel star]

or

dh glide i guess

its glide without the actual dj before it

right

i forget

[slim pebble]

Well evokers get two. Other will get one

[novel star]

is that true

[royal lantern]

no

only the knockback

[novel star]

i thought i remembered it being both on ptr

maybe im buggin

prolly am

[royal lantern]

they changed it

so that people keep playing dwarf

[novel star]

oh so i was right like a few weeks ago then

[novel star]

idgaf im inventing ways to use velf racial on every boss

this shit is fun

absolute cinema on queen

velf racial back before u step wrest

instead of walking away to step

cancer

[arctic socket]

Best reasons

[novel star]

wonder what they were cooking with the 2nd one

trying to dethrone druid as the gathering race maybe

idk

or its just some bullshit more likely

[arctic socket]

Well I mean

Skygolems kinda bis

I do have a Druid with a full speed set I like running old content with

[fickle light]

where in plater will i find how to do this border

[royal lantern]

?

both a generic % racials effects

[novel star]

assuming it has any intent at all

[royal lantern]

every 2nd race has a prof related one

[novel star]

true

just thinking

my one brain cell is working overtime

[soft shale]

unless you are human and your talent for utility is broken and actually doubles your hearthstone cooldown

and gives no second charge

almost for 4 months now

[novel star]

[soft shale]

because fuck you

[royal lantern]

deserved

playing human in fantasy rpgs

[novel star]

just play vulpera

[royal lantern]

almost as bad as playing elves

[novel star]

same shit but better

[rotund oak]

im mechagnome but im going back to human or going orc

[novel star]

playing actually unique race and going back to the 80s

[grim jay]

Im not human irl

[novel star]

mechagnome ugly as fuck tho but

[grim jay]

Gotta play human to feel how it is

[royal lantern]

ofc, your pfp is a cat

[rotund oak]

jokes on u my mechagnome has ponytails

[grim jay]

A kitten

Idk im kinda on the fence if I should play nelf, human or dracthyr

Every aug is dracthyr

So thats a con

[royal lantern]

will go dracthyr the second they let me transmog on them

[grim jay]

Id stay in the normal form

Not the Dragon shit

[royal lantern]

the dragon is the normal form you weirdo

mf's play the dragon race and then run around as a blood elf again

i cant

[grim jay]

Imagine thinking dragons are normal

Smh my head

[rotund oak]

just play human and be normal

[soft shale]

iirc classes that are not evoker use the other form

if you want

[rotund oak]

also have the most beautiful hair

[royal lantern]

THAT is the real fantasy

cant relate at all

[grim jay]

Ye male belf and female human

Or what it was

Based on

[rotund oak]

idk man i like women,call me a perv

[grim jay]

Tryan cant relate to that either

Because he likes us

His homeboys

[royal lantern]

disgusting

i bet you also like holding hands

[grim jay]

You can hold DN

[feral mason]

it shouldve been me

[rotund oak]

no i dont do that anymore man,thats creepy,im definitely holding a good sandwitch though

[grim jay]

I wish I had one rn

[rotund oak]

it has lettuce,tomato,mayo,chicken fillet aaand something that looks like

its onion

[bright timber]

Currently at about 600 ilvl. Should I use my catalysts or wait until I gear higher ilvl?

[rotund oak]

ild wait for hero track gear at least to use catalyst,would compromise for raid finder/normal ones until its actually worth

[grim jay]

Mayo way too unhealthy

I cant

[cinder nymph]

imagine dracthyr demon hunter

[grim jay]

He has 4 wings

[rotund oak]

[grim jay]

In dragon form

[subtle tundra]

i just hate the thought that its mainly oil

[bright timber]

Alright. Thanks

[rotund oak]

why would u combine two cringe things to create something that much cringier,thats pure evil

[rotund oak]

u are welcome friend

[cinder nymph]

warsong gulch won’t see it coming

[grim jay]

Based. I do take it on fries if there isnt anything else

[subtle tundra]

good fries are tasty af by themselves

[rotund oak]

dracthyr drood would be even worse

try flapping into that dracthyr hover thing

[rotund oak]

they dont need much,some salt,maybe oregano and thats it

[blazing pumice]

sap have you ever tried ffxiv

i hear it's pretty good

you should go play it and return in 2 years to tell us about it

[rotund oak]

dont have enough time to play wow,much less for another mmo fam

[blazing pumice]

the idea is you would quit wow

and go play ffxiv

[rotund oak]

must be a huge burden for u to never have played with me and still wanna get rid of me my man

and no,ill play for at least 14 months more,could basicly exxtend my game time for another half a year or something

or whatever 13mil gold translates to

[blazing pumice]

turn it all into bnet balance so you can play diablo v

after you're done with ffxiv

[rotund oak]

isnt it diablo 4?

u jumped a number there

[blazing pumice]

not by the time you come back to ravenholdt

[rotund oak]

💀

[oak eagle]

we get a catalyst charge with reset, right?

[blazing pumice]

no

it's in sync with sparks

[oak eagle]

then am I missing half a spart that I just didnt get from any weekly thing I did this week?

because I did both delve weeklys

[blazing pumice]

you should have 3

[oak eagle]

yeah I have 3 and a half sparks

[subtle tundra]

idk i was told i should have a catalyst charge on wednesday and i had jack shit

so its propaganda

[blazing pumice]

i don't think you have 3 and a half sparks

maybe

i forget

[daring hare]

We get a charge this reset

[rotund oak]

as our american friends say

bs flies

[oak eagle]

thats from my bag

just now

and 2 crafted pieces

bracers and boots

[blazing pumice]

oh we do too

ye, charge next reset then

[rotund oak]

have u ever tried lost arc?

they say its a good mmo

[blazing pumice]

idk i'm on holidays, it's all a blur

[oak eagle]

get a room

both of ya

[rotund oak]

not happening

[blazing pumice]

sap would be coming out in a luggage bag

[rotund oak]

idk im very big man and lift for a living

[blazing pumice]

lucky they have wheels

[spice spire]

Heavy ass luggage

[rotund oak]

switching shifts in 10

laters ppl

[tulip token]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[cedar hare]

So do we do the item crafts with crit mastery or haste mastery?

[royal lantern]

you sim and craft what the sim tells you

[storm hedge]

Can someone explain to me why I died to frontal of 1st boss in NW with cloak up?

[spice surge]

Because it goes through cloak

[maiden pewter]

use evasion

[spice surge]

Unless its the literal first second of cloak

Because cloak is sometimes stronger for the first second

[wise whale]

ye i learned that on princess

[spice surge]

Which rarely happens but this is one of those cases, sikrans aoe is another one

[storm hedge]

Yea that happened to me as well

Dying to aoe with cloak up...

[brisk forge]

just feint first boss if its on you...

[orchid pewter]

just use evasion on that one

[spice surge]

But ye first second of cloak works, evasion works

[storm hedge]

Evasion as in the 20% dr from hero talents?

[spice surge]

No

As in the dodge

[storm hedge]

It will dodge the frontal???

[spice spire]

Yes

[spice surge]

Yes

[storm hedge]

Ok this game sometimes

[brisk forge]

But stil you shoulkdnt be infront lol

[storm hedge]

It was aimed at me

[spice spire]

It targets someone.

[storm hedge]

NW 1st boss

[brisk forge]

use FEINT

[spice surge]

Why use feint

[spice spire]

Or use evasion

[brisk forge]

you gotta sidestep bro ;:D

[spice surge]

When you can use evasion or cloak

[spice spire]

That mitigated 100%

[brisk forge]

cant use evasion more then once

[spice spire]

And there’s 4 possible targets

[spice surge]

Ok sure if you get 3 of them in a row

[storm hedge]

What other things like that does evasion work for then?

[dawn heath]

If u play cheat talent on a +12 key feint is not enough

[spice spire]

But we’ll start with evasion eh

[brisk forge]

i often gets 2

[spice surge]

But like bruh

[dawn heath]

It kills you through feint

[spice spire]

The autos from the worms

:3

[brisk forge]

on higher yes, but since his question didnt take him for being a 12 key person xd

[spice spire]

I mean

[storm hedge]

Well they cast some stuff that evasion doesn't work for so

[spice spire]

It previously cloaked

[storm hedge]

Nah I'm still learning in the +10 range

[spice spire]

There’s also a lot of funky stuff that you’ll dodge but still get the dot from

Siege horse mob’s charge

Charge from the first boss in raid

Idk game is weird sometimes

[storm hedge]

This just doesn't make sense to me though. I'm sure I tried dodging other aoe stuff and it didn't work...

[spice surge]

Correct, it doesnt make sense

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt

Its hard to know if a spell is coded as an attack or not

[winged quail]

is there a raidbots string to sim all the different ST builds out there by any chance? ^^

[storm hedge]

Is there a source where I can learn this at least for bosses?

[spice spire]

Nope

Previously did this

Too much work

0 contribution

Now you learn via word of mouth

[spice surge]

And if you get something wrong people will say the entire sheet is completely useless and flame you

Very fun times

[spice spire]

Last time I ever listen to a br*tish man without fact checking his dog ass

[storm hedge]

So the only way is exp and warcraft logs I guess?

[dim yacht]

for a lil bit i thought you could shadowstep last boss in dawnbreaker to avoid the damage from the web aoe

[spice spire]

Yes

[dim yacht]

not only did it not work, but i shadowstepped too early and dropped the web in the middle of the area

[spice spire]

And asking

[spice spire]

[dim yacht]

mega bricked the key

its weird, if you shadowstep right after the web bomb thing shoots out it still follows you into mid

you have to wait a moment before stepping

[zealous wolf]

i need to be sent to jail

idk why i thought caustic is not triggered with mutilate

thought its envenom also for some reason

[dim yacht]

try it on literally everything on low keys

thats what ive been doing

does this work? procs cheat death nope

and sometimes youll find one that actually works

[latent badger]

yo why are ppl not going CT on broodtwister, seems like it should be pretty strong no?

[calm grail]

Probably cause spatter does all the cleave you need

and you're missing out on more DPS by taking CT

[gray horizon]

It depends on the comp

[dawn heath]

Probably not your job to pad on smallies

Other classes do it

[calm grail]

As sin in raid, your job is to powerfuck bosses

Incidental spatter cleave is a bonus

[dawn heath]

With our lack luster st lmao

[iron ivy]

I deal low damage on queen ansurek heroic fight compared to DK, warrior etc. Is that normal or am I doing something wrong. (Low damage = ~600k DPS phase 3, ilvl 615)

[calm grail]

According to parses

You're doing something very wrong

[royal lantern]

except you dont

[dawn heath]

Assa felt pretty bad on Queen but thats low

[royal lantern]

CT on broodtwister is literally a ST dmg gain

[dawn heath]

🤔

[calm grail]

Wild that all the top parsers don't use it then. Maybe they know something we don't.

[royal lantern]

add spawn->press CT once->keep hammering the boss

[gray horizon]

So there is this thing called prog

Where you don't care about parsing

And believe it or not, some groups have comps that require more AOE dmg to the adds

[calm grail]

Uh huh

[gray horizon]

Plenty of high parses with CT

[royal lantern]

and its literally a ST gain

jesus

guys, CT is allready technically a Gain on ST with the crit proc fron deathstalker up

just nobody does it cus its cringe

[calm grail]

Yeah I guess if your group needs your CT, you should go for it.

[royal lantern]

that is a fight where you can actually play CT and also utilite that ST gain

[calm grail]

I only see more than 20% of people using it, and it's on Mythic.

I don't think we're talking mythic here.

[dawn heath]

I find Assa talents to be wonky in raids

[eager tree]

pressing CT is not a ST gain over running a ST build, but if you are running CT yes it is

[dawn heath]

Everyone playing different shit

[royal lantern]

ofc im talking mythic

[gray horizon]

Heroic def don't bother with CT

but mythic yes it's def worth it

[calm grail]

Yeah

[gray horizon]

Literally all of the top parses are using CT lmao

[calm grail]

I thought this was from the context of people not using it on Mythic, so I figured he was talking about heroic.

Where people DON'T use it.

On Mythic, most do.

[hallow bobcat]

if i play 2 vanish i lost a lot in m+ ?

[calm grail]

What are you trading that 2nd charge with?

[blazing pumice]

2 vanish is noob

just don't

[calm grail]

ER REALLY good

[royal lantern]

yes

[dawn heath]

Double Vanish seems like a ST loss we already have amongst the weakest st of all meta classes in m+ build

[royal lantern]

2charge vanish is really really bad for no gain

[dawn heath]

Seems very bad to me

[royal lantern]

oh ye, that explains our missunderstanding then

its just, on mythic every bit of add dmg helps, AND singular focus actually has some value there

cus you have the boss marked->adds spawn->CT a single time->all the ct ticks do boss dmg with singular focus there

[calm grail]

Oh for sure, I just figured with that phrasing, and since a majority use it on mythic, he was talking about heroic.

[novel star]

!up

[prisma monolith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/304343434137960449/1283842520308256858/image.png

[soft shale]

you can even rupture worms sometimes but not needed at all

they die quite fast

[royal lantern]

i tried to Rupture the spiders, but i legit cant click/tab on them lmao

[frigid wing]

reading the ST ice veins priority list says to press ambush on cd but in the diagram its only used at the start. which should i follow or what am i missing?

[worldly sail]

i try to mouseover ruptures on spiders/worms sometimes to snipe some energy

[eager tree]

thats an opener

ambush also doesn't have a CD, its just a random proc you get in the ST build

[soft shale]

yea that is why i said worms spiders are in tab hell

also wont survive a lot of the duration most of the time

[coral ibex]

any mutilate can become an ambush

[frigid wing]

so press ambush when it comes up and mutilate everything else?

[coral ibex]

ambush replaces mutilate

you dont have to think about it

[frigid wing]

got it thanks

[calm grail]

I never thought about it, but does the procc'c ambush also apply mark?

[eager tree]

no its only ambush from stealth

[fathom bone]

Does anyone know if the upcoming changes regarding our set bonus does affect us in a positive or negative way? Or even further, knows what exactly was not working right with set bonuses ?

[spring prawn]

no

[coral ibex]

nobody knows

[agile osprey]

[coral ibex]

they just made a pin for the hell of it

[fathom bone]

Ty

[calm grail]

5% nerf in ST and AOE

[worldly sail]

he's cooking

[coral ibex]

what

its literally a buff

[spring prawn]

buff*

[past panther]

in the CS and ST dmg change today?

[frigid wing]

so im not actually getting ambush procs unless i stealth

[soft shale]

spatter nerf gets eclipsed by the extra st and tier buff

[worldly sail]

yes for NA, weekly reset

[coral ibex]

what? no

you get ambush procs

[soft shale]

you get ambush procs from this

[coral ibex]

only an ambush from stealth applies the mark

[agile osprey]

You get ambush procs, it just doesn't apply the mark unless its from stealth

[coral ibex]

"free and usable without stealth"

[past panther]

hell yeah can’t wait to get home

[crystal vault]

is there a list of spells atrophic works on? feels like its not doing much on ovinax

[coral ibex]

3.6% is 3.6%

[crystal vault]

3.6% is 0 on absorbs

[frigid wing]

the #1 rogue didnt have that talented in his brood talent tree, i didnt notice until you guys pointed it out

[wispy apex]

Do you sometimes have a delay with getting cp after rupture during the opener? I feel like i have to wait an extra second before getting that cp for slice.

[agile osprey]

How many combo points are you spending on slice?

[wispy apex]

Sometimes i get 2 but other times theres only 1. Its oftenbthe latter that gets delayed.

[hallow bobcat]

is good shadow binding ritual knife trinket for m+ ?

[blazing pumice]

shadow binding is very good

[hallow bobcat]

hiw i can take it hc version ?

[blazing pumice]

get lucky with delves

[zenith prairie]

The bone spike combo points have a little delay if that’s what you’re referring to

[blazing pumice]

or the delve vault

[zenith prairie]

But it’s like half a second

[wispy apex]

Alright thanks

[proud yacht]

You get the combo points when your bone spike hits the target. Some bosses have a longer travel time for bone spike to reach like bloodbound horror

[cerulean maple]

how do you play deathstalker properly in really long fights where shit dies? like how can we reapply mark?

[zenith prairie]

Longest night?

You can permanently have mark up

Well almost

[late kestrel]

is there a cap on improved garrote and rupture from stealth? im switching targets to apply caustic but they wont have rupture on them even tho i applied from stealth on the pack

[main blaze]

No thats when you eat something that doesnt agree with you. You are thinking of darkest night

[blazing pumice]

why are you switching targets to apply caustic

[late kestrel]

so i have more than 1 caustic up

[blazing pumice]

you can't have more than 1 caustic up

[zenith prairie]

Nah

[gleaming geyser]

what did I just read

[zenith prairie]

You put it in your main target and that’s it

[blazing pumice]

Using Mutilate on a target afflicted by your Rupture and Deadly Poison applies Caustic Spatter for 10 sec. Limit 1.

emphasis on 1

[crystal vault]

When is the raid % dmg/healing buff coming?

[gleaming geyser]

assumption is 1 month from raid opening

[cerulean maple]

ya but how do we reup when main target dies

[crystal vault]

isnt that this reset ?

[cerulean maple]

vanish has 2min cd

[blazing pumice]

you get darkest night when the mob dies

[gleaming geyser]

could be either this reset or next reset, depending if they use heroic opening or mythic opening @crystal vault

[blazing pumice]

and then you slap a new mob with a 7cp envenom

[cerulean maple]

oh.

reading is strong asf

[digital wind]

!vanish

[prisma monolith]

Vanish->Ambush during cooldowns with Darkest Night up has two main benefits:

• Getting more mark uptime by reapplying when it's down
• Consuming Darkest Night then puts you from 3 stacks of the mark down to 2 since the mark is already applied

As of September 13th with the Echoing Reprimand Fix, that second part is broken. Blizzard inadvertantly added a bug where you cannot consume mark stacks while darkest night is active. This will hopefully get resolved quickly as it is quite impactful. Until that time, you might want to consider taking improved garrote in your single target build (instead of 1 point of vicious venoms, or instead of improved poison). You do not have to do this, and if you would like to continue to play without improved garrote, you would simply hold onto your vanish in case you drop the mark. Once the bug is fixed you would go back to vanish->ambush.

[fickle lotus]

does atrophic poison stack still? if so how much dr is it giving?

[coral ibex]

no

its just 3.6% damage reduction

[spice surge]

Not sure if anybody has checked recently, but it would be multiplicative

[royal lantern]

actually it does stack

[deep wave]

i thought thats just the intended mechanism

[pliant roost]

Do we switch targets in the opener to spread bleeds? Might be wrong but seems like there is no benefit to doing that unless you have more than 5 mobs?

[spice surge]

!carnage

[prisma monolith]

Indiscriminate Carnage Targetting and Swapping
TLDRMouseovers/Target swapping is optimal on 6 target, or 8+ targets, but not necessarily required

• The 2 Bleeds spread by carnage are smart and will prioritize mobs without the bleed. If everything already has bleeds it'll apply randomly
• You as the character are still casting the bleed against your target like normal, this is why people will sometimes use mouseover macros or swap targets

Swapping targets is situationally better, but can be ignored if you're having difficulties with it. Take 5 mob aoe as an example, your first garrote cast will apply to 3 targets (your target + 2 more). Regardless of if you swap or not, your second cast of garrote will hit your target, and then apply 2 more garrotes, prioritizing the mobs that do not have garrote. In very large aoe pulls (12 or more), a standard opener (garrote-garrote-rupture-rupture-garrote-garrote) will only apply 9 garrotes (3+2+2+2) and 5 ruptures (3+2) if you do not swap, losing you 3 garrotes and a rupture.

It is technically worse, but the situations in which you lose bleeds aren't very common; the lost ruptures/garrotes don't contribute much to your already flooded energy, you don't get additional scent of blood stacks, etc. The loss is purely the extra damage from those bleeds.

[coral ibex]

its pretty minor but technically a gain on larger packs

[blazing pumice]

just mouseover spam shit

doesn't matter on 4-5 targets tho

[faint vessel]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

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[cyan karma]

How long is down time usually?

[coral ibex]

the race is over so back to normal now

[hard river]

im told it does not stack anymore

idk what to believe

[crisp walrus]

Not swapping target on pulls with 5 or less mobs is better if you have a funnel target

extends duration 4 stealth garrote on the big guy

super small difference though just do whatever is easiest 4 you

[pliant roost]

Thanks. So sounds like even if it's more than 5 it's not THAT big a difference. I hate having to point the mouse somewhere in wow combat...

[crisp walrus]

If its more than 5 i would definitely try to practice switching targets

[cold parcel]

so what are everyones thoughts on the new changes? Is it a nerf or a buff?

[crisp walrus]

Do any of you use a cancel aura macro for darkest night on ambush?

Considering getting it so I don't have to manually remove the buff after each pull lol

[spice surge]

What

[onyx linden]

what lol

[coral ibex]

what

[onyx linden]

remove darkest night?

[coral ibex]

bro just garrote

[onyx linden]

lmao

[crisp walrus]

feels better not to

[royal lantern]

??????????

[coral ibex]

huh

have you read the text on darkest night

[soft shale]

someone estop this man

[crisp walrus]

lol maybe ive been thinking about this wrong

[royal lantern]

you guys legit Break me

[crisp walrus]

hahahaha

[loud hearth]

Only situation I could see that being beneficial is if you have like 6 secs left on DN going into a pack and know you won't envenom before it expires.

[spice surge]

What is the point of cancelauring it

[coral ibex]

"gotta avoid the new bug"

[crisp walrus]

i actually dont know lol i just hate the bug

[coral ibex]

you can avoid it by opening with garrote

[crisp walrus]

for some reason ive gotten it into my head that i should always open with ambush

[coral ibex]

you only need to ambush if you dont have the capstone

its better to open with bleeds otherwise

[crisp walrus]

i am a moron

[leaden viper]

What is the bug btw

[crisp walrus]

Am I not wasting combo points on large packs trying to get to 7 though?

[coral ibex]

no, you need to spread improved garrotes anyway

[crisp walrus]

yeah but that wastes 2 combo points

[coral ibex]

ambush from stealth while you have darkest night bugs out bc you can't consume marks while you have darkest night

how does it waste 2 combo points

[crisp walrus]

because improved garrote gives 3 combo points?

[proven jasper]

Double garrote gives you 6 cp

[scenic nacelle]

!transmitter

[crisp walrus]

yes double garrote rupture rupture and then build actually

[coral ibex]

garrote garrote rupture rupture then consume your DN

[scenic nacelle]

whats the command for that, need to send to a friend

[crisp walrus]

Ignore that whole train of thought

[scenic nacelle]

!trinket

erm

[leaden viper]

Does this mean you can put the mark an the target but wont be able to consume them?

[crisp walrus]

Yes

[spice surge]

If you never use your darkest night ye

[leaden viper]

Never noticed

[spice surge]

But like, you should

[crisp walrus]

Don't open with ambush in aoe with the capstone, I was jsut wrong

thats the whole reason 4 me

[arctic socket]

Sometimes you open with ambush, most of the time you don’t

[soft surge]

ANYSIMS

[leaden viper]

Now i dont have to waste time ambushing haha

[arctic socket]

Blindside ambush procs should reapply the mark

Would be so nice

[coral ibex]

TRUE

blindside procs feel so good

[crisp walrus]

Wouldnt that suck though?

[wise whale]

kinda wish the hybrid build had blindside

oh well

[crisp walrus]

You're missing out on the capstone if blindside ambush procs would apply it

[spice surge]

Why would you miss out on the capstone

[arctic socket]

How

Huh

[proven jasper]

the capstone comes from the mark???

[glacial crypt]

stealth aspect they mean

xd

[crisp walrus]

Consuming the final mark gives you the capstone, if blindside reapplied it you would miss out on consuming the final mark a lot of the times no?

[glacial crypt]

you know what

yes

you're absolutely right

[leaden viper]

Wtf is blindside

[glacial crypt]

ambush proc

[proven jasper]

[proven jasper]

its cursed in Here

[glacial crypt]

it is but that's the fun part

[leaden viper]

Oh its talent

[coral ibex]

if they fixed the bug it would be good

currently it would be bad

[simple gyro]

No, if the mark is already applied it does not keep reapplying it, otherwise sub couldnt play deathstalker

[arctic socket]

You would still consumed the last mark with your finisher

You would just reapply it faster

[glacial crypt]

a valid point!

i love this channel

[arctic socket]

You wouldn’t lose any capstone things

You would end up getting more then what we already do currently

But there’s never going to change blindside to do that… I’m just memeing

[proven jasper]

Yeah if that was the case sub would sit in dance with perma 3 stacks of mark

[glacial crypt]

that would be very funny

knowing blizz it wouldn't surprise me

[proven jasper]

Fr

[simple gyro]

the mark just needs a lessening of the restriction, what would be best idk

but sub has it a lot easier in that regard with dance

[crisp walrus]

It feels like shit to play right now

[glacial crypt]

mark is one of the only things we have to think about as assa though

[crisp walrus]

Yeah but sometimes it just fucks you over

Third boss in necrotic wake takes you out of stealth instantly

[dapper cradle]

imagine if blindside procced DN

[spice spire]

What’s dn?

[glacial crypt]

oop

[dapper cradle]

i guess it means darkest night, but I meant Deathstalker's mark here

i apologize

[spice spire]

It’s actually deez nuts

[slim pebble]

Brace yourselves. We are 30 minutes from vault pictures

[glacial crypt]

[dapper cradle]

[glacial crypt]

OH IT'S NA RESET

[past panther]

You mean 30 minutes from delay?

[spice spire]

I’m sorry u didn’t deserve that homie

[dapper cradle]

god I can't wait for horny vault pics

[warm vortex]

Imagine resetting Tuesday instead of Wednesday

[slim pebble]

I have one myth track vault slot and it’s for sure gonna contain a Skardyns Grace

[loud hearth]

Make Stealth Garrote apply mark - fixed

[glacial crypt]

[deep wave]

why is assa rogue top parsing on rash?

[dapper cradle]

easiest skardyn's grace of your life bro

[spice spire]

It’s a lot of execute

[warm vortex]

Then make it go on more than one target

[spice spire]

Over half the fight

[deep wave]

the adds dont count anymore

[royal lantern]

rupture

[spice spire]

And the boss starts at 60%

[proven jasper]

the boss sits in execute range

For a long time

[deep wave]

ohhhh

[proven jasper]

good for execute specs

[glacial crypt]

it's just a target dummy

[deep wave]

damn so we DO have execute at home

[spice spire]

Yeah

[deep wave]

i thought the 35% is just a similarity

[glacial crypt]

and we're in execute most of the fight :3

[spice spire]

It’s rashanan

[proven jasper]

our execute is strong

35% is alot

[royal lantern]

both specs use rupture

rupture "marks" an enemy

there is a talent that interacts with rupture

just make rupture apply the mark ffs

[deep wave]

idk the context but i agree

fuck ambush for proccing mark

[glacial crypt]

[deep wave]

why is sub rogue getting to pop mark on literally anything at any time

[spice spire]

This is a simple issue

[loud hearth]

Fuck it, any ability from Stealth applies mark

[slim pebble]

All rogue abilities from stealth theoretically should apply a death stalkers mark on a target

[simple gyro]

ive seen any ST builder, ive seen shiv, ive seen lean on without a trace (which will be less meme with the patch).

[deep wave]

and we gotta hit vanish to just focus a diff target

[spice spire]

“Get good”

[royal lantern]

@simple gyro askes for alternatives for ambush

[simple gyro]

ive seen ideas with ups and downs

[glacial crypt]

"Feint now applies darkest night"

[deep wave]

it would still be shit just less so, we dont have good ways to restealth during fights like sub does

[distant plinth]

Do we have the real numbers for the buffs yet? And no im asking for the numbers now %

[warm vortex]

All rogue abilities apply mark

[spice spire]

I’d never apply it

A defensive? How about some prio healing

[swift dagger]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Weakauras/Plater profiles:
Whispyr's Afenar Edit
Luxthos's Group
LE's Group
LE's Rogue Collection
Devlin's Group
Ceverion's Plater
Whispyr's Plater

[slim pebble]

If I can’t distract and cast a mark on someone I don’t want it

[normal kindle]

LEts Show our vault so Whispyr would be proud of US 😉

[glacial crypt]

REAL

[royal lantern]

ONE

HEAL

PLEASE?????

[simple gyro]

if they think that without a trace is a valid backup option for sin, with the patch changes, that's just so horrible

[spice spire]

Me in siege dying in the club

[slim pebble]

I did a siege 10 this week and I was fighting for my life

Feint was basically a dps cooldown

[spice spire]

Siege 9 tank died a few times and I had to evasion tank

Incredible stuff

[distant plinth]

Feint so OP

[warm vortex]

Exactly

[spice spire]

I mean yeah memes aside feint is very OP and I use it too much

[simple gyro]

off the gcd will be even nicer

[warm vortex]

Yea irs insane

[dapper cradle]

this would be giga based

[glacial crypt]

applies mark in an aoe, mark is now consumed by fan of knives

[dapper cradle]

remove target cap for marks

[glacial crypt]

now

we're cooking

[strange python]

@glacial crypt

[dapper cradle]

perma darkest night

[strange python]

When you here?

[past bobcat]

Ass rogues going to be eating good after this patch lol

[glacial crypt]

how can you be having tacos without us

you're horrible

[dapper cradle]

is that chopped liver?

[warm vortex]

Still surprised they buffed assa

[strange python]

This chicken looks really bland in that picture holy shit

I promise it’s not

[floral wren]

SERVERS UP

[warm vortex]

Yea their st wasn’t amazing but like sub is right there please buff that (and outlaw) instead

[fast mural]

Did buff is on at Raidbots?

[dapper cradle]

looks like you rolled it in dust

[strange python]

You never show up

[dapper cradle]

reset isn't till 11 though, right?

[strange python]

It’s the lightning it has good color irl

[loud hearth]

Bro's on the biege only diet 😔

[glacial crypt]

wtf NA resets at 11am???

[bright charm]

whenever i feel like dying of alcohol poisoning i can always take a shot when somebody links their new Ara-Kara Sacbrood/Skardyns in trade chat

[glacial crypt]

fam

[dapper cradle]

yah 11 est

[glacial crypt]

waking up at 4:45am on wednesday is a whole part of my routine

[dapper cradle]

i'm an EST gamer

[glacial crypt]

11am is a shit time for reset

[dapper cradle]

skardyn's grace in 23 mins

[glacial crypt]

🙏

[dapper cradle]

[glacial crypt]

i believe

[warm vortex]

Hope

Tbh i want either grace on rogue or spymasters on Druid

[glacial crypt]

wonder what piece this demon will get